She Is "Single" But STILL Hooks Up With Her TOXIC Ex?! | Dating Talk #96

Date: 2023-09-04

Duration: 4h 40m

Guests

Brian Atlas

KKiki (co-host DT126)>

EElizabeth (DT96)>

MMorgan (DT143)>

MMadison (SBCC)>

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_03Elizabeth(guest)

SPEAKER_04Amber(guest)

SPEAKER_05Ali Boba(guest)

SPEAKER_06Madison(guest)

SPEAKER_07Morgan(guest)

SPEAKER_08Dr Sydney Watson(host)

SPEAKER_09Brian Atlas(host)

Key Moments

RelationshipElizabeth reveals she considers herself in a committed relationship with a German TikToker (~12M followers) she has never met in person or spoken to by phone after 2 months of communicating only via Instagram stories.

“I call it that because trust... we're both so busy”

ControversyAmber reveals her toxic ex-boyfriend (33yo) drove her to the show and she has been hanging out with him twice a week despite claiming to be 'single' for 2 months.

“he drove me here... twice a week”

Key MomentAli reveals her ex-boyfriend from her 3-year relationship (age 18-21) turned out to be gay/bisexual.

“he actually ended up being gay”

QuoteBrian asks Amber what she did wrong in the relationship; she says she was too clingy and gave the 33yo ex rent-free housing for 3 months at age 21 while he saved for a car.

“I told him to live with me for three months rent free”

OtherViewer poll: 66% voted that Amber will get back together with her toxic ex (804 total votes).

“yes 66... 34 no”

Key MomentAli describes discovering male sex toys (butt plug, male lingerie) in ex's drawer and then hacking his Snapchat to find photos of other men, confirming his homosexuality.

“I saw a bunch of sex toys... a butt plug in there... male lingerie”

Key MomentMadison shares that her father appeared on a prior Whatever podcast episode and they are no longer on speaking terms after the episode aired.

“after the show went out we didn't really appreciate kind of the things that each of us shared so we're not really on talking terms anymore”

QuoteAli states her traditional values: once she becomes a wife, her husband is her leader, she will wake at 4am to make him breakfast, handle all household/childcare duties.

“as soon as I become a wife I am my husband is my leader... if he's getting up in the morning to go to work I'm getting up at 4am to make sure he has a hot breakfast”

Topics Discussed

Guest introductions and relationship statuses

Brian introduces guests. Ali: single by choice, LA streamer. Elizabeth: single 24 years, messaging online-only German TikToker 'boyfriend'. Amber: 'single' 2 months, still seeing toxic ex. Morgan: purposefully single, focusing on God. Madison: in 1-year relationship with Frankie.

Therapy, mental health, religion vs. therapy

Amber goes to therapy; finds it helpful for addressing toxic relationship patterns linked to father's alcoholism. Morgan is anti-therapy; prefers biblical counsel. Group debates whether therapy prescribes too many medications and what generational mental health decline looks like.

Elizabeth's online-only 'relationship' with German TikToker

Elizabeth considers herself in a relationship with a ~12M-follower German TikToker she has never met, spoken to by phone, or FaceTimed. Communicated only via Instagram stories for 2 months. Brian is skeptical the TikToker is loyal; Elizabeth won't accept the suggestion.

Amber's toxic on-and-off relationship

Amber (22) has been 'single' 2 months but hangs out with her 33yo toxic ex twice a week. Ex moved in rent-free, broke her phone, threw makeup out window, used verbal abuse. Ex drove her to the show. Brian and panel discuss trauma bonding, addiction metaphor, and why she won't cut contact. Poll: 66% of chat thinks she gets back with him.

Ali's 3-year relationship with gay/bisexual ex

Ali dated a man age 18-21 who turned out to be gay/bisexual. Discovered male sex toys (butt plug, male lingerie). Confirmed by hacking his Snapchat while he was at work — found photos of other men. He came out after they broke up. She was blindsided but grateful for the lesson.

Penis size and sexual compatibility

Amber raises question of penis size mattering in marriage if saving yourself. Morgan argues intimacy can be learned together. Brian says body count and experience can be parallel — both can require learning. Group mostly agrees size is secondary to emotional connection.

Age gaps in dating

Discussion on acceptable age gaps. Madison: up to 5 years older. Morgan: up to 4 years older (28 max). Elizabeth: prefers within 5 years. Ali: prefers slightly older once emotionally ready to settle. Brian jokes about passport bros and dating younger women.

Hookup culture, waiting to have sex, body count

Morgan argues women should hold out as long as possible; saving yourself for marriage is ideal. Madison: hooked up with Frankie the first time they hung out alone. Ali: requires mutual exclusivity before sex; never had a one-night stand; body count 6. Elizabeth: virgin. Amber: waited 4th-5th date. Brian: prefers continuity over one-night stands but ok with ~3rd date.

Traditional values and marriage

Ali describes traditional values: husband as head of household, wife manages home/children, wakes at 4am to make breakfast. Morgan agrees: dating intentionally for marriage, engaged in 1-1.5 years. Brian jokes about becoming a monk (celibate). Discussion on sex within marriage and sexual compatibility.

Self-ratings round

Ali: 10/10 ('Latina Queen'). Elizabeth: 7/10. Brian: 8/10. Dr Sydney Watson: 10/10. Amber and Morgan declined to give number on air.

Immigration debate

Brief end-of-show discussion on illegal immigration. Morgan (part Filipino) says come legally. Ali shares grandmother's story — forced into a brothel at 8 years old, immigrated to escape. Brian jokes about dating illegal immigrants for citizenship. Tabled for a future episode.

Male friends and female friend groups

Brian argues most male 'friends' of women want to sleep with them. Amber has male friend Dylan who was watching the show. Morgan says boundaries are key in mixed friendships. Elizabeth: grew up with older brothers, easier to friend-zone men.

Body count reveal

Ali: 6. Elizabeth: 0 (virgin). Amber: 3. Morgan: declined to share. Madison: implied low. Sydney Watson (co-host) drew laughs with a high implied count. Brian: did not share.

Transcript

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Brian Atlasit's she needs a therapist right because she has mental illnesses because of this guy and this guy for podcast but whatever I am your new therapist okay I want her to vent this out to everybody

Brian Atlashow much does your therapist charge you zero because I have insurance health insurance insurance okay um I guess you just have to appear on the whatever podcast more I want an update and you have to come

Brian Atlasback in two weeks we're gonna we're gonna do sit down I'll get a couch for you so you can lay down and uh okay uh Morgan you had something there before I had to make the method I just want to

Morganknow like okay you're you're weaning off when do you in your mind want to be like all right now we're done because I feel like you're just instigating not only his own feelings of you know maybe we'll get back together if he does want to get

Morganback together with you but also your own feelings if you're not actually going to be able to work past him if you're still seeing him so when is that like time frame of like hey it's been two months yeah I you know I don't know like

Amberobviously like I hope that if I work with a therapist or like I know I have support with my friends but you know it's not the same it's not the same whenever your friends your friends are not gonna be there all the time um

Amberit's just I don't know it's just so hard what I obviously been through but at the same time it's like when nobody's there like obviously he's there you know I understand that that's not okay um

Amberbut I feel like now that I'm working on myself now like I'm working myself more than I have you know that's good progress you know I'm going to the gym I try to go to them every day you know I try to write things down like there's like a

Amberlittle later on you have to learn how to like not depend on him of course yeah yeah like I feel like I'm gonna get there it's just like for me it's a lot of patience I see you know I'm gonna I'm

Brian Atlasgonna do a poll in the YouTube chat and the poll is gonna ask does she get back with her toxic EX act uh hold on guys the pulse coming up

Brian Atlasdoes she get back with her toxic ex boyfriend why can't we see the comments uh we used to see it so it doesn't distract people okay that's fine what

Brian Atlasare they saying does she get back with you okay Paul sent it should be getting up there in a sec um I don't know if I've been this befuddled

Morganby I just don't understand why you don't leave because like if you look at every relationship even if the guy is in control if a woman decides to leave she can leave and the guy can chase and Chase and Chase but women hold the control whether it's you want to sleep

Morganwith a guy you're the one that says no or yes you know if you want to date the guy you're the one that says no or yes the guy is courting you and going after you so really women do have the control in that situation so yes she's addicted

Elizabeththe therapist you anyway she can't function by herself I'm perfect I am your favorite by herself you need to tune in she needs everything she's gonna learn how to be able to function by yourself

Amberindependent woman you have to know how to function by yourself I encourage you to go and you know how to make choices new friends yes Brian Elizabeth yes Brian and that's okay you know everybody functions differently you know like you could be

Morganso independent I'm really proud of that but I can't you know she needs some help yeah you know like I understand you can no I can't you have the capacity to be independent and I think women also need to be independent with themselves before going into relationship yes and a man

Brian Atlasalso has to be mature and independent with himself so when you come together you actually make a good harmonious unit of course it's like a teamwork you know it's a team um okay I have a question for you so you've listed a couple things about your

Brian Atlasboyfriend kind of being toxic doing some uh very Unbecoming things uh if you had to say what is what are one two or even three things

Amberthat you did wrong in the relationship if anything I think what I did wrong is not give him enough space to him being independent and like just doing his own thing as an adult like for

Amberexample like I too clingy like that super needy yeah I think just like give him like space so for example I told him to live with me for three months rent free for him to save up for his car

Amberbecause he didn't have a car um

Brian Atlasthe mistake that I made I don't wait hold on you're TW wait wait wait wait wait you're 22. yes so you were were you 21 20 when you moved in with you how old were you I was 21. you're 21.

SPEAKER_0032 year old man moved in with you at Brandon Wells donated 99 he'll replace the toxic acts Brian talk

Brian Atlasabout how I saved you from that house fire so that's Brandon Mel's um he is a Bitcoin millionaire he's been on the podcast before he likes petite

AmberLatino are you Latina yes I speak Spanish can we hear something

Amberoh that was hot if only Elizabeth spoke Vietnamese um so he likes petite Latina women maybe if you know I

Amberdon't date crypto guys though you don't take crypto yes I mean I know right and the thing is like it's just the whole thing like I actually had a situationship with a crypto guy that

Amberwas 23 years old before so I broke up with my boyfriend and I had a relationship it's a lot wow yeah your life is a mess I know you need to fix it I know I need to fix you I'm here for this so basically

SPEAKER_00you're strong and independent congratulations you're still basically oh wow okay that doesn't make you any more attractive just like women do not like Mr Nice Guy is this to Elizabeth is

Elizabeththat to her because Elizabeth said she's strong and independent hi sir yeah um wait what's the question uh there is no questions

Brian AtlasI personally like nice guys that's all it's just my preference nice guys with 11 million followers on Tick Tock and 1.5 million followers on Instagram that live in Germany and are definitely definitely not loyal to you

Brian Atlasand sleeping with other men or excuse me that's her that's her that's her sleeping with other women that's that's you are a hater that's all I'm saying I'm looking out for you Elizabeth we're

Elizabethhomies I mean she hasn't dated anybody else I haven't dated yeah I'm a virgin yes guys

Elizabethyour parents are watching that's why you you're saying you're a virgin just be honest you just don't understand because the thing is my parents um like I said I think my mom when she met her dad they were virgins I mean she

Elizabethwas a virgin yeah so this is why I'm still keeping strong to mine that's fine yeah religion good as you should you know and this is why I only see one guy I was like I mean one guy and like as in your soul mate to remember I mentioned

Elizabeththat last time yeah yeah do you ever date a ice skater dude or are they all gay is that is that that's actually a thing most guys I think they are I've heard a

Elizabethlot of answers yeah um I notice guys you have a crush on me but I like I said I don't give them attention okay is this the first guy you've ever like talked to in your entire life

Elizabethuh that have interest yeah um very interesting yes because it's so I mentioned too last time it's very easy for me to friend zone people because I don't see the initial connection right

Brian Atlasaway or there's something that bothers me to make to decide for them to be a friend wait hold on what do you mean Nick can you pull up the pop-up chat and put it over to the window tab we'll and pull up the twitch too we'll show it and

Brian Atlasthen they'll pull it up show it on the twitch tab so pull up the twitch Tab and then we'll pull up the twitch tab tab we'll show the results of the poll which we took about is she gonna get back dang

Elizabethit I hate twitch people wait what are you just kidding I love them I love you they're gonna say you got the twitch why am I gonna guess they're gonna say yes so here are the results uh can you click on the yes wait did they say yes they

Brian Atlassaid yes does she get back with her toxic ex-boyfriend 804 votes uh yes 66 uh Nick you can hide that 34 no you can move

Brian Atlasthat over let me shout out to Twitch people really quick yo Max Zach thank for the 10 Community subs or the gifted uh well yeah 69 Francine thing for the prime mad tea

Brian Atlasbagger thing for the tier one Blaze thing for the prime fatty thing for the prime Killer X do you think for the prime Beezy thing for the uh or gifted tier one appreciate it um that's the results they think you're gonna get back together with your toxic

Brian Atlasex-boyfriend who moved it wait okay I think sounds like there's toxic men in the chat

Brian Atlasyour boyfriend moved who at the time who was 32 moved in with you at your place at 21 yeah and rent free for three

Ambermonths yeah because his car the Chad what a Legend because um he his car stopped working is he moving with you

Amberwait not anymore why not a year ago maybe oh you've you've grown I've grown okay um you know um I let him for three months and he didn't save

Amberlike he didn't buy a car until like this yeah play video games no um

Elizabethbuttons okay okay I'm ready for the buttons he wants to be an actor and he's a server that's pretty normal in L.A sounds about right 33 it's very restaurant like where you can make a lot of money from it

Amberthough okay I mean he's been working in that like for two years it's normal but like the fact that like he told me like not to do some stuff and I'm like okay then get a better job if you don't want me to like get a a what get a better job

Amberlike he told me like oh like you shouldn't like do this blah blah and I'm like okay then get it get it does that happen before we not to do that what was he asking you not to do um like

Morgancontent on the internet you know what I'm saying yeah yeah I was like okay then pay my bills then like are we supposed to does he support or did he

Amberpay for like any of your stuff groceries groceries but I feel like for me like it wasn't important like I was struggling and I feel like you know I was struggling a year ago a year ago I

Amberam not where I am now um and he didn't really do anything to actually better his life he's still in the same position and I'm not you know I better myself I try to have a better job I have you know a better job now that I

Madisonhad a year ago and he's still kind of in the same position of like you know right now he lives at his dad's house um to save money he's just kind of like holding you back you know yeah if you obviously you know you have the

Madisonpotential to get a better job focus on yourself get a better life than you did have like would you say a year or two ago yeah like you know you have the potential to do that I feel like he's just holding you back because he's been the same person he has for the entire

Morgantime that he's known you he hasn't tried to better himself at all and that works to the detriment of you from the beginning what actually attracted you to him because it sounds like yeah like Maddie said like he's had like a track record from you know a year ago okay he

Morganmoved into you right with you rent free and now you know the toxicity got worse so what actually made you want to stay with him like three months in you know because I feel like us women you know we have our boxes our checklist boxes when we're looking at a partner okay what

Amberqualities do you have that I want and what qualities do I have that they want what what red flags were you really missing from the job well we met as a we did a commercial together um we met there

Amberum we really had the Vibes of like you know like the humor and stuff like that like you know in the beginning you know we went on first date we really got along with what we did you know because we were both actors um you know it was cool to like have

Ambersomebody like to relate to and everything like that totally um I think I was just blind you know love is blind you know like it really gives you I think so yeah because yes from experience yeah you know like Ryan looked like that I

Madisonmean especially when you're first meeting someone you don't really know who they are when you're first meeting someone even like you can get into a relationship with someone it'll be good for a year a year after that like they're true colors all right Brian

Morganwhat's your relationship status let's see single forever we need to go to Morgan and then we'll go to Madison okay I am single I've been single for six months um

Morganwhy'd you do me like that don't worry um I've been in a couple relationships but uh yeah I've been single for six months so my relationship before that was a couple of months and that was uh

Morganmy first like I would say like grown-up relationship like waiting till marriage um you know practicing just religion is like really important to me um and then my longest relationship has

Morganbeen six months okay are you purposely single right now yes actually purposefully single like I've been asked to go on dates but I've respectfully declined because I'm right now focusing

Morganon my relationship with God which that's really important to me and I want to be like that's very good I want to be whole you know have my reading down my journaling down be the word and be 100 like plugged in I'm serving at my church

Amberand stuff like that before I can you know fully do that which I mean I plan to be in a relationship right in like a year yeah I think it just comes to you I feel like you know someone is going to come to you you don't have to look for somebody right and those yeah they'll

Elizabethcome naturally that's what I believe like not actively searching I mean like you need a search and you don't need a tie or something right but if a guy says to me and I feel like it's right now yes okay can you repeat what you said though just

Brian Atlasnow the guy will just come to you can a guy think the same thing the girl will just come to him a girl will just come no no it doesn't work that way for me oh it's not even about that physically what would you oh well

Brian Atlasyeah yes yes yes yes yes yes what guys One mic at a time please um well the guys have to initiate generally speaking so like a guy can't just be like

Elizabetha girl will come to me no I mean it could happen that's how it you know I think I definitely searches more than the girl definitely it depends like the guy will

Morganhave to ask the girl on a date take her out and whatnot but I think for women it's honestly in a sense easier because we again we have the power we can say no we can say yes but also when it gets the point where I'm like you know I'll

Brian Atlasprobably be in a relationship in the next year wait hold on I gotta hold on I'm sorry I gotta read this before it disappears you're a boss man think for the 80s sorry about girls flaking Brian it's in their nature is the real not still coming on I'm sure you could bring girls to the show too

Brian Atlasum again uh first off thank you for the donation yeah I mean flaking happens I mean it's unfortunate because it wasn't just flaking it was no show so flaking would be the day before hey sorry can't

Brian Atlasmake it even the day of sorry I can't make it no show is I checked in with them the night before we're gonna be there and then no communication no hey we're not going

Brian Atlasto make it just not showing up which is super rude because I don't like if someone flakes in under 24 hours I don't like that either because it's hard to get people last minute but at least they let me know but

Brian Atlasif someone just knows shows they're basically just locking in three seats that it's gonna be very hard to fill so um yeah as far as real match he I'm sure he could bring girls on the show too so

Brian AtlasI've had some really bad experiences with guys who are like oh give because we get 100 guys a week wanting to be on the show and they're like oh well one of the things we used to do is like can you bring some girls

Brian Atlasand we've done that and then the guys talk a big game yeah I'll bring five chicks whatever and then they their dog they can't lock down the chicks

Brian Atlasand we had one dude huh lag there's lag that's one person was there more people yeah yeah I'm checking it out oh no what the bro is it yo chat

Brian Atlashold on did it just start guys did the lag just start Ed

Ali Bobahold on let me look at it on my end can someone explain me what 304s mean 304 means it's an area code area code don't worry about it okay

Brian Atlasuh sorry guys hold on to me but no we invited we've invited uh there was this dude who came on an episode and he was like he literally took up the entire booking he booked seven girls and he

Brian Atlasshowed up with like two oh my God or sorry three which like up so I'm never booking dudes with chicks again never happening not lagging no lag for me you want us and also we oh the other

Brian Atlasthing when it comes to guys look I know a lot maybe some of you watching have reached out wanting to be on the show the reality is guys is we've been we've given a lot of normal guys the opportunity to be on the show even

Brian Atlassome normal women to be on the show well it's different with with the women but and a lot of guys are like oh let me be on the show I'll you know I'm I'm really good like I'll uh I'm really entertaining and they come on the show

Brian Atlasand they're sitting in front of 3000 people there's four cameras there's lights they're sitting across from people who probably disagree with them and they choke they sit there they don't say they don't contr

Brian Atlasthey detract for them a conversation it's a dead seat so as when it comes to the guys so I'm getting worked up because I'm like I've had it guys are not good no like trying to tried they

Brian Atlasdon't know how to die they eat up a seat they talk a big game and then when it comes down to the being on the show they choke and they waste a seat and they sit there ooh nodding their

Morganhead so I'm very skeptical they're very mad no I don't know why it just triggers me but like beta males is what they are no it's not it's not even that it's just like

Brian Atlasit's very easy from the comfort behind your screen to be like oh I would I'm such a good debater I'm such a good arguer but in the moment in person it's

Brian Atlasa lot harder than they did 99. yo Brandon I'm gonna be honest like I'm not gonna lie dude you didn't say much during your appearance but uh I appreciate your

Brian Atlassupport man but and then listen Brandon there's there were a lot of guys who've been on the show it's not just it wasn't just you I'm not trying to call you out but like it has been our experience when

Brian Atlaswe invite dudes on they choke that's why like I'm very very picky with the guys we invite on typically they have to like have some proven track record of public speaking content

Brian Atlascreation doing something with public speaking because again a lot of guys it's I was this way too like it's very easy from the comfort of your home watching the stream oh I would

Brian Atlasrespond to I would say this when they say this and trust me guys it ain't like that it ain't like that it's different um okay so anyways moving on appreciate your soup chat there uh okay we have Kips I gotta get through some soup chats

Brian Atlasthen Morgan will go back to you uh Kips I've just recently turned 40. I'd say I attract women around my age well with you girls 18 to early 20s be attracted to a 40 year old high value man absolutely

Amberyeah it depends on like how mature or mature I have standards [Music] I'm getting their patience

Elizabethwhat's the oldest for you Elizabeth is it 34. probably 34. I like that she has standards I don't know just saying I do yeah that's 34 is too

Madisonold I think 34 is still two I think it's too young you like older I like older guys you're how old again I'm 26. how old would you be go oldest probably 50. oh yeah

Ali Bobaokay okay yeah what's the oldest guy you've dated I've been I've actually dated somebody that was 45. that's the oldest but he looked 30. it was super awesome like was the coolest guy ever

Brian Atlashad a lot of fun dating him but it just didn't work out how old was the oh wait we already okay nevermind we already talked about this yeah this is just like a guy that I've dated yeah all right

Brian Atlasum thank you kids oh fdg hey thank you for the um 50 gifted memberships I think that triggers fireworks today thank you um we have not catfish here

SPEAKER_00I am confirming that I am real me and Elizabeth are talking back off everyone that's so cute there it is all right we have hold on don't come in

Brian Atlasthat's really cute I think there's hold on I'm preempting because there's another uh super chat about to uh come in here we have I'm squinting because I'm blind

SPEAKER_00Brandon males donated 99 I will become the best debate of the world has ever seen chat Believes In Me raw hashtag bring back Brandon yo one in

Brian Atlasthe chat if you want Brandon to come back on the show one in the chat if you want Brandon Brandon two in the chat if uh you say no

Madisonsorry Brandon Brandon sorry Brandon uh one in the chat you want them on I see more ones yeah I see people saying like

MadisonI'm their girlfriends too Brandon was on the show what three weeks back I'm trying to who else was on that show Aubry who who were the girls [Music]

Brian Atlaswho was Brandon I think some of the people are thinking like old school Brandon with the face tatts not that Brandon in any case uh thank you appreciate it for the donation all right we have a house of Matrix

Brian Atlasyou're worried about mental health you don't even have a real boyfriend LMFAO hashtag Germany do you have a good question next Elizabeth your response to this wait is this wait yeah is this for Elizabeth

Elizabethdo you if you guys don't think it's real then that's your that's your opinions yeah like I know what's in my eye I don't I know what's what I have no I don't think they're claiming that it's like they think it's imaginary I don't think

Madisonthey're saying I think it's like like a literal boyfriend I don't think if y'all are just talking he's like a companion like not your boyfriend yet

Brian Atlasoh oh I see I see what you mean it's unvalidated we have big whatever that is thank you man appreciate it

Brian Atlasokay we have uh usagi rabbit merci beaucoup for the Canadian 100 Madison is the best Elizabeth is the worst what what don't hate Elizabeth

SPEAKER_00Brandon Mills donated 99 I won't let you down chat it will be scorched earth when I am back let's go hashtag bring back Brandon

Brian Atlaswhat I need to see him like what does it look like no coffee look like uh I forgot which dating talk I think it was uh

Madison92 91 or something four or five episodes ago he's a child yeah he's cool Brandon I I Gotta Give the tough love man you

SPEAKER_00gotta Step It Up fantastic Decay donated 99 oh gosh okay brain thank you sarcastic bran stochastic Decay thinks you should bring back Brendan and add puffy Vegas with all his girls

Brian Atlasquiet tonight puffy uh yeah he'll pop up he'll pop in later on in the show for sure all right thank you guys so much for all your uh chats

Brian Atlasreally appreciate it means the world thank you for your patronage oh wow there's a lot coming in right now holy we got like two we got a few King underscore Ryan yeah thank you Ryan

SPEAKER_00I appreciate it ladies would you rather have an average man who's your height and is monogamous or a great man who's above six feet but isn't monogamous but

Brian Atlasexpects you to be Brian definitely get it there a natural you guys would make a great combo yo King Ryan thank you very much uh ladies would you rather have an average man who's your height and is

Madisonmonogamous or a great man who's above six feet but isn't monogamous an average man that's my high-end is monogamous yeah the average man who's monogamous

SPEAKER_00refs Wiley Coyote 50 donated 99 I will never understand why beautiful women go for losers one day you will look back on the time you've spent with this guy and

SPEAKER_00realize how you wasted years of your life when there are legitimately good men out there I pray you figure it out soon God bless directed towards you follow me I have a

Brian Atlasquestion for you so like let's say let's say a great guy tomorrow ask you out on a date is your toxic ex-boyfriend gonna drive you to the date no I have my own car oh you drive yeah oh why did he drive you then because it's convenient

Amberfor me I'm not gonna drive two hours here

Brian Atlasoh I see so you used him for a ride yeah because he wants to he the entire car ride was he like trying to talk you back into taking him back no it was just chill

Amberlike yeah like I was doing my makeup like did he throw that out the window on the highway probably no you know what bought them back but I know like it's not the same

Madisonlike can I have you just tilt your mic whenever you guys hang out does he initiate the hangout or do you um he does

Brian Atlasokay bro you gotta go cold turkey yeah

Amberit's hard I'm I already have stuff that is so hard I'm like wow like one more hard thing you know it's like wow like I don't know I know it's life but it's like

AmberI guess I just have like do you guys still cuddle

MorganI slept over I swear I don't throw things oh I said before he lives can you get that right your place yeah so you have he has slept over at your place since you've broken

Brian Atlasup yeah okay so you definitely haven't seen this whole story would get people would be so angry but you're not sleeping together but he's he's sure smashing you guys come on be honest

Morganplease be honest you guys you see you guys have hooked up yeah you so you lied earlier well what like in the past two months have y'all hooked up when you guys were broken okay bro I literally asked I asked Mom

Amberyou said I've been single for two months and I asked in the two months have you hooked up with him and you're like no well I I'm shy about it you know like it's something that's like really like personal you know how do I trusted this

Brian Atlasshow gives me trust issues it's true you're giving me trust issues this is an abusive relationship yeah you have lied to me I mean if you're still sleeping together then are you actually broken up yeah

Madisonokay not really probably not probably yeah I think honestly they're still seeing each other to a certain extent you're not completely broken up because the way that he constantly will ask you to hang out he knows you're gonna say

Brian Atlasyes yeah of course which gives him the message that one day that you're gonna go back to him so when did when's the most recent time you guys hooked up was it today yesterday

Elizabethyesterday yeah okay so you guys are still together um I think I'm just obviously scared like I have like this thing where I'm really scared of like

Brian Atlasyou know okay okay yeah yeah yeah sorry sorry well no dude I I think I'm too hyped on caffeine right now

Brian AtlasRyan's really jittery right now the secret sauce this is the the juice this is my juice that I drink I have two of these every show um like there may or may not be like performance enhancing drugs in there but

Brian Atlaslike like ppds like if I tried to like do a race or some like they'd probably should get sponsored I probably get pinged for like you know the juice okay so

Brian Atlasum Morgan yeah were you on the show where I was like hmm I don't want to pay for First Dates were you on that show Morgan no but my

Brian Atlasfriend was holy up there's a really big dragonfly that up no no wait Nick it's cool it's cool it's cool no it's like a big dragon fly it fly

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Madisonget that that dragonfly up Nick it up Nick there we go dead right it's huge is it dead doesn't it Fly is it dead I think you need to

Madisonstep on it Brian you'd be such a good hype man if you're one of your friends were in a fight yeah yeah that's right you got him Nick that dragonfly up

Elizabethit's dead wait should we here just put it in the middle of the table Yeah bam son Nick that dragonfly up son

Brian Atlasoh Nick appearance oh wow Nick identity revealed okay we're I don't know where the hold on I'm paying for First

Brian AtlasDates wait yeah yeah we'll come back to that Azul 69 uh he says he's autistic so he can't be a guest on the show hey that doesn't prevent me from being on the

Brian Atlasshow son that's right doesn't stop me yeah I'm autistic probably okay um hyper fixated can't stop talking about certain preferred subjects Elizabeth feel like I've seen you with

Brian AtlasJavier's not once but can you out skate Kim who's Kim Yuna Javier [Applause]

Madisona Mexican restaurant it's so good I suggest you go oh I've never been there me neither what about the Kim Yuna thing okay whatever she's Olympics wait to Morgan were you on the show where we

Brian Atlaswere talking about me not wanting to pay on first dates I think it was mentioned but I know Alex was on that show yeah that we got into it heavy with Alex I'll get into it heavy well so one of the arguments I I make when it comes to not paying for the

Brian Atlasfirst dates is you don't know like a girl could say she's single

Morganbut women don't pay for First Dates right but I mean you don't have to spend a hundred dollars on a first date 200 I mean five but okay so your name is Amber correct okay

Amberif I was on first date with Amber and because you said you hooked up with your you said you've been single for two months yeah but I'm not dating anybody like I'm not going on a deal with

Brian Atlasanybody you you're still cuddling with your ex toxic ex-boyfriend she wouldn't go on a date she wouldn't go on a date with anybody else yeah you wouldn't date anybody else no because I feel I wouldn't you're not really single I'm

Ambernot a single situation because the thing is I wouldn't want to do that to somebody that kind of sucks I'm not that person that's gonna be like going on date to see if like I see you know like you're still okay well I'm still kind of hooked I want to you know focus on

Ambermyself and like okay you know makes sense so so this is one of the reasons why I don't think dude should be paying for First Dates

Morganbecause if I was on a date with you and it's like yeah I my ex yesterday I'm single by the way they spent five bucks on a cup of coffee and you know you end it after five dollars on a coffee and you walk out on the date I mean I Am pro like if a guy finds

Morgansomething out and that's a major red flag like leave the date you don't have to stay you're not bound by two hours sitting at a dinner table course meal and it can go both ways but there's like me as a woman okay I'm in the dating

Brian AtlasMarket kind of in the next couple of years pronouns by the way no I'm just kidding my pronouns no let's not go there no pronouns are stupid but please don't assume your own gender um I wanna you don't want to assume my

Brian Atlasown my own job yeah please do not assume your own oh my gosh they expose it it would be woman wait huh

Brian Atlasoh my God wait what wait who is it Go the live go live let me see who it is who is it boys who is it it's the newest comment I saw

Brian Atlasall the way down wait down I'm not on crack I just had way too much caffeine today and I was pissed wait I saw it

Madisongo up a little stop where Jacob brought

Brian Atlaswho the is that guy I have no idea who that is

Elizabethhold on how did how was yo my chat why are we they're detectives if you want this private oh my gosh somebody donate money and they said like

Amberthey called you hot who I saw the chat it's called too hot who Runaway

Amberlet me see oh you're still talking yeah can I see can you pull it up Brian would you rate them on a scale on the scale of one to ten he's kind of a Chad kind of a chat okay kind of a

ElizabethChad what do you think I give him like what do you think I think he's an eight solid solid eight how tall is myself a solidate hmm

Brian Atlassix one wait are you pulling it up no we're not good oh wait that's true okay or maybe we should I don't know

Amberwhatever should we do we oh my gosh oh my God I'll show you my ex I'm scared oh sorry my boyfriend oh you want us to pull up his Instagram

Brian Atlasright now okay so okay I don't know where we where we left off here first dates First Dates yeah we were talking about paying for president yeah I mean somebody did say something they donated money and they said oh like

Brian Atlaswatch out guys or like girls can bumbuzzle too and I don't know someone said that something oh it must have been under the uh threshold but okay we were talking about I don't even know I'm just I'm Bamboozled by this

Brian Atlasconversation um the dragonfly your your boyfriend to your your single but you're tapering but you him last night it's just not single

Amberto say guys or like a party of course not yeah but do you think you could possibly be the one or do you think you just personally I don't think so because

AmberI feel like I need to be emotionally detached from somebody and like fully like hey like I don't want to be with you anymore to actually see myself like oh I want to date like again are you supposed to emotionally detach though if

Brian Atlasyou're still sleeping with him I don't know yet I don't know wait okay I have a question then then was it a night time that well it doesn't really matter was it at night time that he

Brian Atlaswas it the same day he threw your makeup and your phone no no this is like this yeah like this is like smart sorry okay uh the the day he threw was it all your makeup or just like concealer no what are you throw well you know what

Brian Atlasconcealer is it was like a good amount he threw like your stock your entire stock out or just some of it I think last of it what did he think yeah like I

Amberthink it was like um like my highlighter like my bronzer oh the bronzer yeah

Madisonhighlighter is like 65. highlighter okay yes question the night he threw out yeah some or all of your makeup

Brian Atlasdid you him after no I don't think so no I there wasn't like makeup I left no you you threw out my bronzer you didn't say that

AmberI I think I'm more of an emotional person like I would cry more I'm not like really violent person I know I'm like violent huh I'm not talking if you

Brian Atlasguys not throw fist of Cups no we did it you didn't you you didn't no okay all right makeup sex no makeup sense no I don't like that you don't like makeup sex no

Madisonyeah it's kind of like lamb you know makeup sex is very toxic yeah I just don't only have that if you're a new toxic yeah I'm

Brian Atlasnot such a sexual person like sometimes I'm not are you sexual I don't know I how often do you and your

Brian Atlasuh sort of kind of not really but I think about it like I can go yeah like two months three months well when you're single or when you're in a relationship

Amberwhen I'm in a relationship that's a yes because I don't yeah that's a yes yeah because hold on but is it because your partner doesn't initiate no it's because of like for example like my current relationship it's because he's toxic

Amberlike I'm not attracted to somebody like if he does something to me like I'm not attracted to somebody like that y'all last night son what I know but it's probably because I'm like confusing right now to be honest you're horny

Ali Bobaright now hormonal you're Pro what's hormone hormones yeah

Brian Atlassuck my blank from the back B I mean he did donate 100 so is that your boyfriend um wow that's very abusive that was a very abusive TTS that didn't even I

Brian Atlasthink if you curse in the TTS guys it won't true yeah I'll have to read it okay um ah your life's a mess you need to come on

Brian Atlasthis podcast every two weeks for your therapy session I am your new therapist you can call me Dr Brian and I will I will try to help you okay

Morganbut honestly I think you're a lost cause I think it's a lost cause well you're emotionally harming yourself of course and physically because I mean the more you're sleeping with him I know that it's just like you know like it's it's

Madisonjust so hard for me I don't know cope yeah no it's so hard because I think the more you sleep with someone the more emotionally attached you're of course yeah of course so I think maybe just start off with not sleeping with

Morganhim yes you go three months without your boyfriend that is first off that's grounds for a breakup yeah or you just don't sleep with them

Morganuntil you oh okay yeah yes and then it's not an issue okay yeah because that is you're committed to that person and you know you're committed to that person forever because then when you sleep with

Brian Atlasthem it clouds your judges yeah but did you miss through them but like to be honest hold on did you miss the part Morgan where Amber said that she was a Satanist before the show did you miss that she

Brian Atlasbut did you miss that part Morgan you you worship Beelzebub admit it what's that BL zebub Lucifer

MadisonDiablo no no black magic here guys Diablo Diablo I love it you know Puss in Boots yeah I love that I love his voice

Morgansee but look this goes back to what I was saying is women have the powers if you decided to stop sleeping with him then he he would still try and get you back but you have the power to stop it and that's why I think yeah you know even in hookup culture women need to say no I'm not gonna hook up with you

Morganbecause I think hookup culture wouldn't be a problem if women just decided to you know what actually I am going to treat my body with respect and I'm not gonna hook up with you as a guy just for a one night stand I'm not gonna hook up with you two weeks into the relationship

Morganthree months into the relationships like ladies need to hold out for it yeah until you know and if you know I think you should save yourself for marriage I did it in the past now I'm saving myself

Amberyes but like men need to yeah provide I mean I'm just saying like I thought that too but oh my gosh like I

Brian Atlassize wait what wait what happened penis size matters it matters

Brian AtlasI know why you're I know why you're hung up on yourself he has a huge peen [Music] yeah because I've had experience wait

Amberdon't throw Frankie I'm kidding wait no no I'm just wait oh I thought I thought like I understand like like trust me like it's just like I've had before like

Amberyou know I mean like smaller than five I've had and it's like I don't think it I understand like when you love somebody like it doesn't matter stuff like that but like as a little relationship goes on I'm like but don't you think the intimacy is

Morgansomething that should be learned between a man and a woman and that you can learn what each other likes like that's the beauty of intimacy with somebody yeah like it so it's really different like what you know obviously Christianity like it's all about like the love of God

Morganlike you know when people two people love God you know that's first and then the relationship it's like a foundation but I mean sexual intimacy is still a huge part of like the marriage like of course that is huge like I don't think a woman should ever withhold sex from

Morgantheir husband because like then why would you put your husband in that situation of like withholding sections but when it comes to like size like that's something that I think is learned happens if you like date for marriage

Amberand then you find out and then you don't like it like what do you do there

Brian Atlasand like you don't like it like what if you're just like yo but if you're waiting until marriage like you're probably at least somewhat religious so like yeah

Ali Bobayeah until death do us till death do us part in sickness I feel like sex is different so people are religious yeah

Brian Atlasit's more like because I see as a value like if God if God intends you intends for you to marry a guy with a micro penis like that's God's will well I also

Brian Atlasthink this also that's God's will why are we talking about this I don't know she's talking about penis size apparently her boyfriend has a

Ali Bobagiant no okay the Giants wait I don't know I mean I'm going to open this up to the other girls here yeah I want you to be really honest

Amberright does size matter I don't think so I'm gonna say no yeah well we for you yes are you a size queen uh no the thing is like I think it I saw

Ambersomething you know it is true like it depends how they use it I think you know like he could have us you know a micro whatever and then he knows how to use it he knows how to move you know like I think would you marry a guy that's a

Ambervirgin of course like um it goes back to like I still have like you know religious beliefs um of like I understand like I kind of want to go

Amberback one day to that um what's preventing you from going back I think for me right now I'm like doing stuff that like obviously

Amberis not okay you know and like that doesn't mean you're not welcome I know in the church and like yeah God doesn't so love you yeah you know I I think it's just like a

Morganwhole like I need to actually be super into like really having a relationship with God like and for me like I don't think I'm 100 there yet you know but also I think God can find us in our lowest places

Brian Atlasyeah that's what you can get into those dark places that's true because like when you believe in the Dark Places her boyfriend has a giant I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry

MorganI'm sorry what's wrong with that no there's good for him yeah okay well Brian you always say like you know body count mattering experience and stuff like that

Morganyou want a virgin I think you know lower body count is better so I mean but then sexual experience that's what going back to like does size matter no because I don't even like body count matter extent

Morganbecause then you can work together on learning that intimacy I mean that's true yeah and there's toys you can always throw toys so then like I'd argue a virgin could be equal to like you know maybe a smaller size because you know if

Morganthey're a virgin they don't know what they're doing in like societal standards a guy who has a smaller thing you know made a lot of whatever but if a guy's a virgin he's never done it before so you still have to learn that Intimacy in the same way that if you know you have slept

Amberwith somebody and you're working together in that relationship I think it's all about teamwork like if the person really wants to like really loves that person they will work hard to like you know obviously satisfy their wife right you know I think that's really

Brian Atlasimportant what size it doesn't matter it shouldn't matter when you're right you know like you know what I think it's absolutely fine for you to have a genitalia

Brian Atlaspreference because it happens to be the case that I've got the genitalia preference oh my god oh no I like you know I'm also I'm a size King

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SPEAKER_00recently just turned 40. I'd say I attract women around my age well would you girls 18 to early 20s be attracted to a high value man how much is an age

Madisonof 10 to 15 years a factor in considering a relationship personally I like today uh men kind of around my age within five

Madisonyears older I would say because I'm kind of on the same page as them in a way independence with life and everything I feel like if I were to date an older man they'd have more

Madisonthey just like want to settle down faster than I do or they want to do things more than I do because you're older you know like you're just on different wavelengths of life there's maturity differences developmental differences you also have to think about

Morganyou know if you're 60 when you're older and you're dating someone who's 80 well if that person passes away you know you have time to live that they're not going to be there with you and your support and you know I'm not opposed to you know

Morganif you want to date someone older than you I like I think my limit I'm 24 my limit probably be at this point 28 so I'm four years older because I think it is important like when you are building a life with somebody you know men do

Morgandevelop emotionally a little bit later maturity level a little bit later but not like 20 years later it's just I think a difference and then it gets to the point you know if they're old enough to be your dad that's you know it's like where is their

Elizabethhead out to yeah yeah I think it just depends on the person like I could see that like if if you're more mature um then you would want probably an older guy you know to match with your level but if um

Madisonyou're not on the same page I guess you would know when you talk to someone who's either Common Ground yeah other men can still be very immature same thing with women

Ali Bobathough a lot of older women yeah that is true yeah I think for me it was always just because I've tried to date guys that were either younger or like within the same age group and it's just I feel like I was always at such a

Ali Bobadifferent level because I had the party phase I had the going out phase and I when I started dating guys that were a little bit older than me I was like okay like because like I'm at the point of my life I'm gonna be honest with you if I met someone that you know provided for me and gave me you know we had a good

Ali Bobarelationship a healthy relationship I would definitely settle down equally yoked exactly that's true that makes it awesome yes yeah yeah what about you Brian true what about me

Elizabethwhat are we talking about what's your age or your dating age preference dating age preference are you even dating anyone Brian what do you mean I have a relationship with the Jesus

Elizabethare you still a man of God um okay that's good we're working on them I uh what why why are you uh stuttering I'm

Morganthinking of becoming what's the male version of a nun oh a problem yes yes

Morganbut that's Catholic pastors have families yeah families yeah I'm going to be a what you okay

Brian Atlasuh what I'm gonna be a what what's the term there's a term for it why though why do you want to do that

Brian Atlasyou can save yourself for Jesus forever I don't believe you like I think if do you think Jesus is coming back oh absolutely like that's a Biblical process that's in Revelation

Morganspeak like he would like have a wife like he comes back and have a wife you think I don't know is that part of the prophecy no he wouldn't I mean he's first I mean he's gonna come back he's the Messiah that's Jesus Christ Christ

Morganright he's going to come back and I also there's a lot of things that have been coming true yeah so he's coming back for sure do you think he he would take a life

Morganthough like would you would you be in line to like slide into his DMS Jesus no you wouldn't you wouldn't hit up Jesus something but here's the thing I want to meet it's like when you know

Brian Atlaswhen you like say like oh who would you want to eat dinner with and like uh or like if you could go back in time where would you go like I'll go back is Jesus your type Nick can you pull up some photos we're gonna ask the girls if like Jesus

Amberis your type um but is it like tall dark hair yeah can turn water yeah

Ali Bobawasn't he Middle Eastern yeah like he's from Israel yeah he's from Israel yeah so he looks like a you know okay oh so ladies is like would you

Amberwould you are you like DTF for Jesus like are you down for is this did he really look like that okay that one on the right corner that white one right there that looks like oh that's a that's

Morgana real man yeah okay because the other is a real name this is also a real man but that's like like a modern man okay would you guys scroll down a bit Nick

Brian Atlasoh pull up wait cavazil wait what's his name didn't Jesus have a wife already you know the guy from The Chosen is everything you know no no the guy the guy from uh Passion of the Christ uh what's his name chat what's his name

Brian Atlascavazil what's his first name I know who you're talking about what's his name the guy from uh Passion of the Christ what's his name Jim is it

Brian AtlasJim Jim cavazil yes I thought it was cavazil nick uh could you Google Jim cavazil

Morganbut that's not Jesus well he depicted Jesus Jim cavazil Jesus Passion of the Christ yeah that one yeah

Brian Atlasum scroll down great job do the one where he's got the crown of thorns yep there you go no the the blue one yeah that yeah pull yep click that one right before the crucifixion what do you think girls like is he like kind of

Morganyour typer I mean Jesus Christ was the strongest man to ever live he died for all of our sins I would say that's my type

Brian Atlasyeah okay I don't know why I'm doing this um can you also just really quick Jesus The Walking Dead while we're at it what what just no just Jesus Walking Dead

Brian Atlasbro we need to get you some typing classes Nick we need to up your words per minute Type to Learn what about this guy Jesus no that looks like a Jesus not a Jesus

Madisonum right anyways around the table I don't think with the relationship relationships oh yeah I did you didn't answer

Elizabethwe got the meats oh I forgot that was their slogan yeah that is their slogan yes let me do a couple shots here

Madisonwe have this shirt it's almost like he looks like a Bowman my one year anniversary is tomorrow we have dragonfly Army peace is no longer an

Amberoption this is a declaration of war oh my God I'm not sure what that's what is that Revolution itself running oh Dragon oh oh

Madisondragonfly RV oh the dragon that's okay we had our first dragonfly people were so funny delete himself huh so

Amberit was hard to buy R.I.P the dragonfly was in therapy but we had a funeral for like one minute yeah he had you know mental issues

Brian Atlasthat's okay it was a blue dragonfly went to the blue light too it was attracted to the blue that toxic light that toxic toxic so wait we didn't go all the way

Madisonaround on relation like uh Morgan did you share yeah I've been thinking yeah Maddie hasn't shared I just shared mine I said I was taken um my longest relationship is my current relationship

Madisonit's one year tomorrow oh wow happy early anniversary

Brian Atlaswow good times good times yo shout out to Frankie Frankie is a G shout out Frankie Frankie is the homie I love you he's the homie he's he's dumb he's

Brian Atlasthe homie and I felt I felt bad when during the uh our last podcast with the American Gladiators when you were like well I know he's the one I'm in love and

Brian Atlasthey're like that's so cute yeah I was like Frankie I I didn't say anything but like I was I was like man that's kind of that's kind of mean to say and I was like no Frankie I was gonna in my head I was like Frankie's a really good guy and

Brian Atlaslike I actually do think that you guys are gonna go the distance so I think congratulations that was really nice I wish you guys the best keyword you know the shorts that

Madisonyou gave him he's been wearing them for like five days straight yeah he loves them he said thank you oh shout out to mentality for sending us

Brian Atlasa bunch of uh merch appreciate it thank you um okay so got a couple questions for you guys I know we kind of lingered on the relationship status stuff for a while and I will I will Circle back

Ali Bobaum I actually want to come back to you really quick so you were in a three-year relationship the guy turned out to be gay yeah um you've been single this entire time you said there's a situation yeah I had

Ali Bobalike I would date casually but I also wanted to clarify when I date um I will not sleep with you unless I know for a fact that we are like we make this like communication that we are only

Ali Bobasleeping with each other and yeah that's good yeah just because like I don't do hookup culture has that always been your standard though like you've had a one-night stand I'm sure never never have you have you ever hooked up with a

Elizabethguy not a one-night stand but the same day or night you met him no never yeah I've always have a relationship girly you have morals and that's very good

Ali Bobavery good hard to find yes yeah he plays the sus music [Music] fine what

Brian AtlasBrian that's creepy yeah okay you're scared you're scaring you're going like cap okay all right okay uh I just prefer the traditional way you know yes you're a traditional way I am we will talk

Brian Atlasabout that yeah the traditional way here in a bit but so uh when's the last time you were involved with a guy whether it was relationship or situationship um it was in LA this April I ended

Ali Bobathings like it was like a year-long situationship sure and it wasn't it was such a weird relationship because I even hate saying that word I'm gonna be honest with you because like I don't I'm not a fan of them relationships of

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