Adam22, Lena The Plug vs. Lila Rose, Isabella DeLuca, Ruslan | Dating Talk #93

Date: 2023-08-23

Duration: 4h 28m

Guests

Brian Atlas

LLena The Plug >

CChristy (DT94)>

BBrenna (DT93)>

MMadison (DT94)>

IIsabella DeLuca >

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00TTS Reader(audience)

SPEAKER_01Ruslan(guest)

SPEAKER_02Lena The Plug(guest)

SPEAKER_03Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_04Adam22(guest)

SPEAKER_06Christy(guest)

SPEAKER_07Lila Rose(guest)

SPEAKER_08Brenna/Madison(guest)

SPEAKER_09Brenna(guest)

SPEAKER_10Isabella DeLuca(guest)

Key Moments

QuoteLena The Plug introduces herself: 32yo OnlyFans creator and mom, married to Adam22.

“hi everyone I'm Lena the plug I'm 32 years old and I'm an only fans Creator and a mom”

QuoteAdam22 explains Lena's first MFM scene with Jason Love was framed as a "wedding present" joke — but it was actually a pre-wedding agreement. Jason Love later had beef with Adam by talking on podcasts.

“we were talking because we were thinking about doing like a sort of like game show type thing or like an American Idol type tryout thing for us to find the next dude”

QuoteLila Rose states she and her husband practice fidelity as a sacred promise; intimacy is for marriage alone. First response to Adam22 and Lena's open arrangement.

“Fidelity is really really big we think that's part of being married is that it's a sacred promise to each other”

QuoteAdam22 describes watching Lena's C-section and realizing he is committed to her for life regardless of circumstances.

“I'm watching the doctor slice her stomach open and pull the baby out like The Lion King and I'm just witnessing that and just realizing like oh I am sticking around like it does not matter”

QuoteLena explains the Jason Love MFM scene: it was a business decision, not infidelity, because it was fully disclosed. Not cheating because they discussed it beforehand.

“for us if it's not cheating or infidelity because it was all you know talked about... if I was texting Jason right now probably that would be considered cheating but me having... told my husband...that was not cheating”

QuoteAdam22 describes their open relationship as primarily on-camera only; almost never hook up with others off-camera. Distinguishes from Destiny-style full polyamory.

“we almost never in the past like three four years have really hooked up with anybody off camera not that we have anything against it it just hasn't really it just it's primarily a work thing”

QuoteAdam discloses body count of approximately 600.

“like 600-ish 600-ish okay”

QuoteLila Rose cites stat: 56% of divorces list pornography as a reason; the top site for trafficking victims is porn sites.

“56 of divorces list pornographies of one of the partners as one of the top reasons... the top site that trafficked victims are at according to the data is porn show sites”

QuoteLila Rose reveals she was a virgin when she married at age 30 and was mocked for it; advocates normalizing virginity before marriage.

“I got married at 30 and I was a virgin and people were like you're so crazy you're so weird like how could that be”

QuoteRuslan reads Matthew 5:27-28 ("You have heard it said you shall not commit adultery but I say to you anyone who looks at a woman with lust has already committed adultery") to argue porn is a sin by Christ's own words.

“this is Jesus speaking it's in red he says you have heard that it was said You shall not commit adultery but I say to you”

QuoteChristy self-discloses body count of approximately 22, describing it as very low given her opportunities as an OnlyFans creator.

“mine's probably around 22... that is a very very low body count... compared to how many opportunities I have on a daily basis”

QuoteLila Rose discloses body count as 1 — her husband only. She was a virgin when she married at 30.

“it's eighteen is Lila... it's just my husband one”

QuoteBrenna tells the story of meeting a man from the phone number on the side of his truck, going on a date and discovering he was a little person, then faking an emergency to escape the date.

“I see this guy pull up in a truck next to me and I'm like oh he's kind of cute and he's like call me... my mom comes upstairs she's like Bren your date's here... and I walk outside and he's a legit [little person]”

QuoteBrenna shares ghosting story: ex-boyfriend of 2.5 years disappeared entirely — all belongings gone; his father called her father to end things. She never heard from him again.

“I came home one weekend he was gone all of his stuff was gone and then his dad reached out to mine to tell me it was over and I haven't heard from him since”

QuoteAdam22 argues he would not pay for the first date if the woman out-earns him; but ultimately paid for Lena's first date (diner). Explains paying is peacocking to signal financial stability.

“I feel like I understand there's like a value to the peacocking that you're doing by paying it's just like sort of demonstrating that you're not broke”

QuoteAdam22 reflects that the intangibles — Lena's loyalty during his lowest moments — made her irreplaceable regardless of her body count history.

“I have been at the lowest points in my life and she was somebody who you know was just there for me 100 of the time... it would have been like a catastrophic mistake in retrospect [to write her off for body count]”

QuoteRuslan cites "The Good News About Marriage" book: real divorce rate is ~38%, and for practicing born-again Christians who attend church it drops to 10-15%.

“the real divorce rate's around 38 when you feel alive when you factor in people who make above average income and get this practice their faith... the divorce rate falls off the cliff... between 10 and 15 percent”

Topics Discussed

Introductions & Show Announcements

Brian opens show from Santa Barbara CA, introduces co-host Ashley Sinclair (formerly Kiki). Guests introduce themselves: Lena The Plug (32yo OF creator/mom), Adam22 (39yo podcaster), Christy (33yo OF model), Brenna (34yo publicist), Madison (18yo SBCC student/Whatever staff), Lila Rose (34yo Live Action founder), Ruslan (38yo YouTuber/Christian speaker), Isabella DeLuca (23yo conservative influencer/Think Tank fellow). Relationship status round: Lena married to Adam 7 years; Christy single 5 months; Brenna/Madison single; Lila married 15 years; Ruslan married 15 years; Isabella dating 1 month; Brian longest relationship ~1 year.

Adam22 & Lena The Plug: Open Relationship, Porn Career, MFM Scene

Extended discussion of Adam and Lena's marriage and content career. Lena's first MFM scene with Jason Love (framed as "wedding present" joke). Jason Love had beef with Adam after the scene by "yapping" on podcasts. Plan for future MFM partner selection ("American Idol"-style tryout). Adam and Lena discuss only shooting together (Adam did one solo scene when Lena had stomach virus). Adam explains need to clear sexual thought via masturbation. Discussion of whether their arrangement constitutes cheating — agreed it does not because fully disclosed. Lena: "if I was texting Jason right now probably that would be considered cheating but me having told my husband...that was not cheating."

Pornography Debate: Harm vs. Personal Freedom

Lila Rose and Ruslan vs. Adam22 and Christy on pornography's societal impact. Lila: average porn entry age 13; 56% of divorces list porn; trafficking victims appear on major porn sites; Utah porn law and PornHub withdrawing due to underage users. Christy: parents should parent better; kids shouldn't have iPads. Adam: porn is like alcohol — harmful to some, neutral for most; first saw porn at 11 from dumpster magazines. Isabella: no-middle-ground is unrealistic but age verification should exist. Ruslan: secular removal of God from society correlates with rising STIs, divorce, suicide. Lila advocates for federal age verification law.

Logan Paul vs. Dylan Danis / Body Count Debate

Discussion prompted by Dylan Danis attempting to embarrass Logan Paul by posting about his fiancee's past. Christy's "body count ratio" theory introduced: ratio of opportunities taken vs. offered matters more than raw number. Lena: double standard for men vs. women. Lila: consistent standard should apply to both sexes. Ruslan: body count matters, harder to pair-bond with higher numbers, statistically proven. Adam: 40-body-count girlfriend at 22 made him reconsider, but now would not write off Lena for her history. Christy self-discloses ~22 body count. Brenna: does not know her number. Lila: husband only (1). Ruslan: not disclosed. Isabella: history matters for current relationship, but redemption exists. Adam: ~600.

Religion, Sex, and Morality Debate

Ruslan reads Matthew 5:27-28 (lust as adultery). Lila explains theology: sex is for unity and procreation within marriage; porn creates lust, which is a sin by design. Christy argues she only did content with her boyfriend and does not feel she sinned. Ruslan: porn is like cocaine to cocoa leaf — processed form becomes harmful. Adam: neither masturbation nor porn has negatively affected his life. Christy: "I'm Catholic, I have a very good connection with God." Discussion of God's love as accepting where you are while desiring more for you (Ruslan's Adam-daughter analogy). Isabella: sex is sacred within marriage per the Commandments.

Abortion Discussion

Lila Rose: 2500 abortions per day in the US; sky-high numbers because people don't take sex seriously. Brenna: abortion can be justified in some circumstances (finances, abusive relationship). Lila: never justifiable to kill an innocent child; many abortions are coerced by abusive partners. Isabella: conservative, pro-life, was in an abusive relationship but did not have an abortion. Christy: pro-life, has never had a pregnancy scare. Discussion of financial circumstances as reason for abortion — Brian challenges if that is a valid justification.

Body Count Round (Direct)

Explicit body count disclosure round. Adam: ~600. Lena: will not disclose (advised by Adam not to). Christy: ~22 ("very low given opportunities"). Brenna: does not know / "30ish." Lila: 1 (husband only). Ruslan: not disclosed. Isabella: not disclosed (former engagement referenced). Brian: not disclosed.

Dating App Profiles Review

Brian reviews Isabella's Hinge profile live on show: notes all photos have filters/makeup. Christy shows Coffee Meets Bagel profile (kicked off Bumble for promoting OnlyFans; also on Hinge previously). Brian argues filters on dating apps are misrepresentation. Christy reads her Coffee Meets Bagel bio: "I have to weed out the weak... I hate feminism and I love toxic masculinity... men and women are not equals." Discussion of Christy's new breast augmentation (6 weeks prior). Brian and panel discuss catfishing via filters and whether dating app photos should be unfiltered.

How to Make Men Great Again

Panel asked how to make men great again. Christy: men are natural providers/protectors/hunters; society forces feminine energy on men to eliminate identity and control population. Ruslan: men should be in communities with older couples mentoring them. Isabella: no-fault divorce devalued marriage; people need to take marriage more seriously. Brian: find a traditional woman with low body count, no cluster B personality disorders, and no children from another man before marrying. Lila: marriage is awesome when both partners strive to be their best and serve each other.

Jealousy in Adam & Lena's Relationship

Q&A segment on jealousy in Adam and Lena's relationship (prompted by TTS donation from a fan couple). Lena: early jealousy during threesomes when not sure where they stood; desensitized over time. Adam: mild jealousy when he complimented another girl's Instagram in front of Lena; strong jealousy during Jason Love scene. Lena felt jealous during Adam's drunk podcast with grabby girls while pregnant. Adam: "some degree of jealousy is inevitable and is a sign of a healthy relationship." Ruslan: avoids situations that would cause jealousy. Lila: natural wiring for monogamy makes desensitization concerning.

First Date Paying Debate

Extended debate on who should pay on first dates. Brian: not obliged to pay; prefers splitting as sign of equality. Lena: Adam paid on first date (diner). Adam: paying is peacocking — signals financial stability; also a test to filter women just there for free dinner. Isabella: women contribute by getting dressed and doing makeup (takes time). Lila: paying signals provider dynamic — "I want to be a provider." Christy: would let a man pay, prefers it. Brian explains "gangster" strategy: arrive early, get own drink before she arrives so no obligation. Discussion of "foodie calls" — women going on dates for free food.

Marriage Skepticism vs. Pro-Marriage Debate

Brian: strongly resistant to legal marriage due to divorce laws, community property, alimony. Lila: custody issues exist even without marriage; preparing well for marriage reduces divorce risk. Adam: having a child made marriage feel obvious and important. Ruslan: real divorce rate ~38% (not 50%); drops to ~15% for practicing born-again Christians who attend church regularly. Isabella: people treat marriage as escapable due to no-fault divorce. Brian: three criteria for men considering marriage — no child from another man, no cluster B disorder, low body count. Lena: initiated prenup process with same lawyer as Britney Spears and Kim Kardashian.

Transcript

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Adam22career and you see girls dealing with that all the time I just don't think that it's like necessarily a good thing for a girl to get into because she's 18 and she doesn't feel like getting a job like it just is not you know like the

Adam22reason why me and her got into it is legit ability because well especially in her case and she had a super normal regular job and she just wanted to achieve some degree of Financial Freedom and to be able to do what she wanted

Adam22with her time and you know I got into it not really necessarily having to do it but just because I wanted to you know make content with her and we enjoy it you know I like porn aside if my

Ruslandaughter was like wanted to explore her sexuality like I don't think that's a bad thing like I don't think that's unethical but you just you guys just both acknowledge you wouldn't want your daughter to do that

Ruslanit would have been my idea so isn't that a bit inconsistent though to create something that you wouldn't want your Offspring like we want our kids to be better than us so why would you want them to do that like if they're aspiring for you I feel like what I'm doing

Lena The Plugallows my daughter to have a better life like I'm able to we're gonna be able to like put her through private school because I have the life that I have now like I wouldn't have been able to give her that without that my dad was a

Adam22social worker and for sure he wanted me to be something bigger and better than a social worker you know it's like you always want your kid to do better than you would want to do you know I would love that my daughter was you know some

Adam22some famed CR uh you know artist or something that would be amazing do I necessarily think that that's in the cards I mean that's kind of a roll of the dice you never know what your kid's gonna get how much is it how much is enough like financially like at what

Adam22point does it just like you you I feel like you guys intrinsically know this isn't helpful no I think it's as long as you're having fun like whenever we go is there a dollar today it's like no it's not it's basically just like it's fun like I look at my calendar and we're

Adam22hooking up with a couple of chicks that day and I'm like oh wow what a great Wednesday it's like very profitable and if it didn't feel good anymore like there are times math feels good like sometimes we have more sex on camera than we do off camera in those weeks I

Lena The Plugdon't feel like as connected to him I'm like wow we've just been working so much like I don't feel like we've been fostering a relationship and in those weeks if like we didn't take that break and not pause and talk about it and reconnect then I could see myself being like I don't want to do this anymore

Adam22because it's interfering with our relationship and meth does feel good but the downside of meth is much worse having actually done it it's not that great whereas the downside of having you know a threesome with some girl on

Adam22camera is that at the end of the money you get a bunch of money in the mail so to me in an injury difference you guys don't know potential consequences down the road I mean we've been doing it for a long time and I wouldn't really say that we've encountered many negative

Brian Atlasconsequences from it but I guess fun and yeah I do I do have to move on from this all right we have no it's fine uh so puffy Vegas this is the truth because I had no clue that nine inches was something different I'm not lying at

Brian Atlasthis this is no BS women will tell you the size I didn't even know that I was different High School okay we have another one from puffy the threshold of

Brian Atlas500 I think this is 500. I want adam22's wife to rape me all right I'll do your favor we'll do you do we know how old he is

Adam22if he has 500 he's probably of age but I also want to say that like he's saying that his penis is nine inches long and he never thought it was anything special I'm sorry if you watch porn and you're

Adam22seeing a lot of penises that are far shorter than nine inches doesn't that stand out to you that maybe you are a little bit well that would be here men in the adult industry who said the same exact thing to us in person like I

Brian Atlasdidn't know that I had a big dick that is true so do you have it ready

Brian Atlasoh we'll close you gotta close that out um uh it's just like a search tab or something you got it

Brian Atlasjust reload the page uh you got it yeah yeah okay all right this is Puffy Vegas um scroll down jeez you post a lot buddy

Adam22hold on oh um

Brian Atlasright there pull up that one

Brian Atlasthat's like average for a black dude can you can you switch us over pretty small nine is small pull up pull up the photo and switch us over yeah like the camera wait well this guy just hangs out in

Brian AtlasVegas X out of that get out of that ah jeez okay um wasn't really attracted to him that's all it's supposed to say Yes okay yeah

Brian Atlasyeah beyond the wiener though all right we have Martin uh thank you for the 100 man appreciate it Blondie you're so annoying that you're making corn Stars uncomfortable you said you're hot you're a four if you don't speak thank you

Brian Atlasnon-stop interruptions and screaming into the mic a two also I enjoy leftists alternative Lifestyles please stay in California I'm sure we'll all turn around I live in Miami I live in Red

Brian AtlasState well there you have it markovius she lives in I don't live in L.A do you have a rating for puffy by the way and you want to give him like on a one to ten

Brian Atlasfour all right puffy you asked for it there you go I almost like 50 we have Brandon Mills here the viewers would rather see me be quiet on the podcast

Brian Atlasagain more than listening to miss raspy any longer holy crap also hi Lila I'm a big fan thank you man uh we have another

Brian Atlasone here from Mr doc the nebulous home waiting for that to clear that might come through twice one sec doc van nablis Lyla you are a

Christygem unfortunately trying to convince the S workers about monogamy is like trying to sell an alcoholic on sobriety it will take a miracle so keep happening can I say something I'm I'm a monogamous like I only

Christynot into sleeping around with people that aren't my boyfriend if I have a boyfriend or my boyfriend girls aren't my boyfriends

Lila RoseI think everybody said the blonde in the right I think the point is so much I think he's talking to me the point about the monogamy is more about marriage in terms of your body is sacred and

Lila Rosebeautiful and reserved for someone else and that would include not just actual sex acts but it would include showing your body um you know pornography or sending sexual videos or things like that to anyone else outside of the

Lila Rosemarriage and I think monogamy you know the research proves that people who are sexually intimate before marriage are more likely to divorce if you look at

Christylike it's all girls being naked and then like the history the research is all like coveted being real which wasn't even real so come on bro shut up okay that's

Christygonna get us in trouble yeah I mean it's not it's not that's the truth me and you have the same core values we're just out of just agreement of we don't see it the same way well I think that that would be

Christydifferent core values no it's not because who did you vote for um should we just move on I don't think it has to do with who we vote for because we voted for the same person so you guys don't have same values because

Isabella DeLucayou believe in so she just doesn't understand what I'm saying politics and core values there's a huge difference you can vote you can be Republican and not have traditional core

Isabella DeLucavalues but you don't have traditional value you don't know I do know that because you do you do anything that doesn't make you have traditional core values that's not well you could be a republican I'm not judging you based on

Lila Roseyour job I don't do only fans I'm judging you based on your job because if your job doesn't make you a traditional well doing only fans doesn't make you traditional and here's the thing like I can I can never think I could never and

Lila RoseI would never judge your heart because I only God can see the heart but what we're talking about is actions and you know dating and relationships that's what this podcast is about and the point we're trying to make here is that pornography at large has been a menace

Lila Roseto society I don't consider myself let me just finish for a second it leads to divorce it leads to addiction it has led to the proliferation of like a lot of sexual Brokenness and deviancy broken relationships and so you know part of the message is like let's be the change

Lila Rosewe want to see out there in the world and I want happiness for you like I want you to have that marriage you dream of I think that many people want that and the way the path to that I believe is pursuing virtue and love and that's a

Lila Rosechoice that includes self-control and not just like how we behave with other people but how we make money because if we're making money through selling pictures of our bodies to incite blessed and other people that's going to ultimately I don't think set you up for

Christyhappiness and I want you to be happy I want you to have that future marriage that you desire well I'm sorry that you don't think I'm a happy person well I think what you're saying is you want to be married because you said you

Christywant me to be happy she's just giving you like this advice I understand that but like all right I'm gonna listen to God and I'm gonna follow my own path and that doesn't have to have anything to do

Christywith your Pap but that doesn't mean I don't have a spiritual connection with God I know that I'm not have spiritual connection but like you're you're debating me because of like oh I hope I

Christyhope happiness for you in the future like I'm good well I think you have to get married we're on different paths though we're on different paths it doesn't mean that I'm not a child of God or I don't pray or I don't have

Lila Roseconnection with God of course you're a child and it's a little bit judgmental yeah of course you're a child of God I'm just I'm speaking to I think what you're saying is you desire marriage right

Christybut I will not settle for marriage that's the name and I don't care if it happens tomorrow at 47 as long as I'm

Christyhappy in the long run and it's not about what I'm doing it's on my path that God put me on and you are on a completely different path that God put you on Christy I don't think anyone's saying

Ruslanany of this stuff you think we're saying about you okay God speaks through people it's possible God may be trying to speak to you through Lila who's married with kids you said that's something you desire and I think you're doing a lot of

Ruslanprojecting of what you think we're saying and we're not saying 95 of what you think we're saying I actually think the opposite I think she's just kind of you guys are projecting on me yeah I think everyone just has their own

Christyopinion and I think we have all the same beliefs I think and you're projecting on me because it's my job

Isabella DeLucaI think Lila's just coming from a place like she desires marriage you desire a marriage and I think she's just giving you like motherly Sound Advice I don't think anyone here is like attacking you no I don't understand

Brennaanyone's attacking her it's everyone has their own spiritual path and she's my best friend like I know what she wants we meditate together we talk about God

Christytogether like everyone's on their own path and it's true and I think like you're kind of projecting your path on me and my path is completely different

Christythan that that doesn't mean I don't have a godly perspective or connection or anything yeah so I have a question I've got a question for you to maybe you three is it a sin to

Christyshoot porn is it a sin yes it is which commandment is that sense can be forgiven you just go to church

ChristyI actually don't think it's a sin I I'm just shooting a reality show with my boyfriend that people are saying my reality show do you mean like porn like what do you right people are

Christypaying to see what me and my boyfriend he's not my ex-boyfriend but me and my boyfriend we're doing behind closed doors people are gonna pay people pay for the

Christydumbest things ever but that's porn that's not reality TV so the the reason is the reality of my life I don't care the question is is it a sin

Christyyes it can all be forgiven and I of course yeah but don't you need to like if you're trying to be a Godly person don't you need to make enough no no if you're how am I sinning if I'm only hooking up

Lila Rosewith one man let me just explain because I think it can be maybe confusing especially our society is so pornified and like sexual objectification is everywhere it's in advertisements it's in movies it's

Lila Roseeverywhere but the reason porn it looking at porn or making porn is a sin is because of lust and you're either let me just finish really quick and you're either intentionally creating

Lila Rosecontent to get someone to masturbate and lust or you are doing the masturbating and lusting they're already doing that the reality is like the the design like God's design is that sex is for you unity and procreation it's for Unity

Lila Rosebetween two people to be emotionally bonded pair bonded in love and then in addition to be able to bring life into the world because sex can do that and one of the reasons you know we rusling kind of mentioned this earlier a

Lila Roselittle bit but one of the reasons this hasn't been the statistic hasn't been shared yet at this table but there's 2500 abortions a day in this country the reason we have this Sky High I've never had maybe scare in my life the reason we

Lila Rosehave the Sky High number is because people don't take sex seriously enough they think sex is just like a recreational thing they'll do it doesn't have to do with commitment and marriage and so people get pregnant because they're having sex when they're not

Ruslancommitted and then they choose abortion so yeah all these other problems yeah that's not what I'm doing at all porn is a sin the way cocaine is drugs the cocoa

RuslanLeaf is not a drug they use the cocoa Leaf in South America you can make tea with it the moment you take it and you add all the gasoline and all the other junk to make it cocaine that's the moment you become and I think comparing

Adam22porn to drugs totally makes sense because it's like I've been able to be a person throughout most of my life where I could have a couple drinks and I just don't have this like strained relationship with alcohol I've also gone through periods of time where I was getting drunk every weekend and it was

Adam22clearly having a very negative impact on my life and I have friends who've died or you know ended up in the hospital and stuff from doing drugs myself masturbation to porn in my life is something that I've never really

Adam22struggled with and anyway I've always had this like completely kind of take it or leave it attitude I've never like yearned to be seeing it when I you know didn't have access to it or anything like that but I have known people throughout my life who clearly had some

Adam22kind of weird relationship with porn where they needed to see it on some kind of consistent basis so it is hard for me to imagine somebody having that sort of like unhealthy relationship with it but you know I smoke I smoke weed I know people who've basically kind of ruined

Adam22their life because of smoking weed I know people who've ruined their life because of alcohol and so I don't doubt that there are people that have you know terrible kinds sequences from porn it's just I I don't think that porn is

Adam22necessarily the problem the problem is people with mental illness or with some kind of hole that they are trying to fill through porn and obviously that alone is not going to help people to

Adam22you know stop their addiction to porn it's just like anything you make if it's good enough whether it's Coke or porn it's like it has the potential to take over somebody's life myself personally I don't really see that as being something

Adam22that's so common we go to these porn conventions and we meet you know a couple hundred porn fans and I mean are there weird ones sure sometimes but for the most part they seem like kind of regular guys that I don't think would seem that different than if you went to

Adam22like a comic book convention or a baseball card convention these are just guys who are super into this one thing sure we're going to move away from Community one thing no we're going to move away

Christyis it the same thing you were going to say no that you can't say but people ruin their life by having kids and getting married with the wrong people also so that was beautiful okay what did you have I know I will say with

Brennathe abortion context I feel like sometimes you could be in a very committed relationship and it just maybe you don't have the funds or it's just not the right time wait hold on are you

Christyboth conservative yeah are you pro-life or pro-choice I'm pro-life yeah but it depends what do you mean you're either choice so you're pro-choice I'm pro-life I've never been in a pregnancy scare

Brian AtlasI've never had an abortion yeah you were saying I feel like it depends if you're in like an abusive relationship the people you also are married and thriving no but you were making a

Brian Atlasfinancial there are people who are married

Lena The Plugyou were saying well a lot of things happen I agree with you that there's but a lot of times there's also women who already have children and they just can't take on them most of them are single moms who are really struggling yeah in a confidential marriage I think I

Lila Rosethink there's never a context where it's okay to kill an innocent child never no matter like if you have an abusive partner usually it's the abusive partner that wants to kill the baby actually a lot of abortions are coerced when there

Lila Roseis an abusive partner statistically but the reality is like if you no matter your circumstances if you're with an abusive partner if you're you know you don't like the guy at all that doesn't justify taking the life of an innocent

Brennababy I never said it did well continue with your point you were saying what I mean I I'm very conservative I've had opposite views on this kind of stuff but

BrennaI've also been in a very abusive relationship where well let's not shift the goal post you you were saying you you were saying if people were uh financially they weren't in good

Brian Atlasposition do you feel that that would be a circumstance under which abortion is acceptable when they can't afford to have a child well you mentioned something about finances like if someone's not in a good

Brian Atlasfinancial position yeah you and you said that they don't have insurance they don't have a job but yeah under those circumstances do you feel that that's an appropriate uh like a a good reason to

Lila Roseget an abortion I do if you can't afford to give this one you're necessarily you're not pro-life that's pro-choice and there's two things with that pro-choice position like first of all if

Lila Roseyou're really struggling a lot of people are struggling right and they get pregnant they're like what do I do first of all there are hundreds of thousands if not millions of families that really want to adopt and they can't because they're on these long waiting lists to adopt second of all there are resources

Lila Rosethat a lot of people don't even know about which is so sad right that people don't know about them there are thousands of Pregnancy Resource Centers in this country that offer free care prenatal care care for after the baby's born help with housing help with financial assistance so I think the

Lila Rosepro-life message is there's always a way you know there's always about me and like I didn't talk about this well I'm kind of trying to look at your friend but I apologize I'm not trying to look necessarily looking in

Brian Atlasthe direction uh let's let's we didn't really but there's always a way there's always a way to choose life sure we didn't finish off on the body count conversation or did you had something or we did no I

Brian Atlasthought we were talking about the um is porn Us in I thought that was a lot I I think we maybe on from it but uh so I think we just

Brian Atlasreally quick around the table once more uh just maybe even show of hands uh does body count matter yes yes it matters

Adam22I have to like kind of like halfway raise my hand because I definitely see the context in which it matters that like it seems like I was a guy you could withdraw some kind of conclusion based on the number of uh sex partners I would

Adam22just say I'm much more open-minded now if I met you and you told me I have 3 800 sex partners then okay body cat that kind of definitely seems like it matters if you have some astrolog astronomical

Adam22number but we're having a few I mean personally I don't think you should have but I also would understand if a girl was gonna judge me if if I met you in a bar in another world in which we weren't both married and you said oh you have

Adam22606 Partners I don't want anything to do with you okay yeah I get I totally get that yeah well another one in Another Universe are we shipping out them and Lila wow another Universe just to

Lila Roseclarify too like I do think body count matters with the clarification that I believe like what you were saying a lot Christie about God's love like I do think that in God's Universe when we say sorry sincerely for our sin and I'm a

Lila RoseCatholic so you go to confession you sincerely say sorry for your sin you say I'm not going to do this again and you commit to that your sin is wiped away so even if you've had a thousand sexual partners to God like he has he can wipe

Lila Roseyou clean because if that's the power of God's grace and his love and Jesus Christ death on the cross is wiping away any sin so I think that's an important clarification in the conversation of does body count matter there's a spiritual reality that's so beautiful

Lila Rosebecause no matter what you've done you can change and you can be redeemed and that's incredible that's that's Saving Grace for me personally it's Saving Grace for everybody at this table and just just one caveat everything she said to spawn on but I would just say the

Ruslanonly caveat is sometimes we don't get to choose the consequences and sometimes you can make bad decisions give your life to Jesus and then there's still consequences your natural Concepts I'm not not giving my life to Jesus it's just because I'm an only fans model I

Adam22just wanna on behalf of the chat is it true that you were arrested for attacking a police officer no it's not true all right that is kind of weird that they made that up

Christythen okay so there actually was like a whole Google thing about it because I'm a trump I'm a trump supporter and I actually had multiple Trump Flags out on my balcony in Nashville not very

Christyconservative not not really back in the blue when you beat up a cop right I didn't and if you actually look I don't have anything on my record but there was an article written about me about that

Christybut it was a lie yeah I I don't have any charges against me I don't well that doesn't mean you didn't do it this means you got out of it no I didn't do it I don't believe it I backed the

Christyblue it just means that she's not 53 years old somebody just said oh we know she backed the balloon yeah I mean like this is the thing like people make up a

Christylot of things like you guys don't even think I'm like a conservative traditional person don't worry about it okay so um

Christyuh controversy is not a bad thing but I know who I am you're happy I'm 33. I see you pretty sure yeah

Christyyeah yeah yeah I mean if I was 67 I'd be like hell yeah I look good I mean like that would be a compliment if I was 67 yeah 53. okay thank you

Christyshould body count does body count matter so many times why are you asking her that issue data celebrity or a reality

ChristyTV star someone that's like a big deal their body count is gonna be higher naturally because they had opportunities so but then if you date like a regular random person from Wyoming their body

Christycount and opportunities were so different so no body count does not matter because ratio matters I don't understand why you guys don't understand map here don't ask

Christyyeah don't ask me again because it's like literally common sense no but but that's including the whole ratio thing it depends on who you are and what opportunities you've had in your life

Brennawhat about you does body are you also on the ratio um no um no the number thing doesn't matter to me

Brenna/Madisonthe body count or the body count like ratio okay stop Madison yeah I think it matters I completely understand why it matters to a lot of people so it is like do does everyone go

Christyand like keep a journal count every time they sleep with somebody like write it in their journal in your head I think if you're not just being promiscuous and sleeping with people you don't really know so if someone I think it might just mean you aren't hot enough about that

Isabella DeLucamany opportunities have sex I can't hear what so if someone asked you on a first date what your body count was would you be offended or would you think it's a totally normal way to get to know each other I feel like I feel like I feel like it depends honestly like I feel

Isabella DeLucalike I've never been asked that I think I don't know I mean I feel like it's a weird question if you don't have a commitment to each other yet yeah I don't think it's something that you should just be randomly asking Persona first day I think once there's like an

Lena The Plugestablished relationship a connection I think it's because first someone maybe in your space like it matters a lot so then wouldn't you want to know like right away so wouldn't it be like a perfect vetting

Brian Atlasquestion I would ask pretty quick yeah me personally yeah and what number are you like the out here I'm leaving I suppose it depends how old they are if they're older than 25 a bit more 25. because

Ruslanthat's what's up that's the whole ratio thing I don't know why you don't understand that yeah no no yeah the lower the better the lower the better the more older I think more ratios we all

Lena The Plugintrinsically know it matters I think trying to pretend like I don't think you know my body count after all the time you know what I know but like we just haven't talked about it we've never this is whatever exclusive no he's always like

Adam22because

Lila Roseand it matters because our bodies aren't just like orifices for orgasms our bodies are sacred and our Spirits are connected to our bodies and so we are human beings not just animals and that's

Adam22why the body count matters because people intrinsically know that but I can give you a situation in my life in which body count definitely mattered it was like I think I was probably 26 and I was dating this girl who was like 22 and I

Adam22knew for a fact that she had dated the same guy from like 15 to 19 so she had only been like really she had had one body her whole life up until she like you know two years so like then she one

Adam22day just mentioned that she had like 40 dudes or some and I just immediately was like oh my God that's like two a month for the entirety of your sexual career besides this long boyfriend phase you're in so I

Adam22definitely felt like lean some information about how she was living before she started dating me uh that number definitely made me think that she was giving it out a little too loosey-goosey to be honest yeah so I I

Christysee where you guys wait I've had so long relationships I'm not like everyone so what if she was making her tons of money each time she did that would that have been okay with you oh I mean if she was a porn star for sure like we know

Adam22porn girls who are you've dated strippers and porn stars so I mean I feel like it's like in some context it matters I mean we know girls who are 21 and because that's the thing when you do porn you end up the same 10 20 dudes over and over and over but just to clarify I'm trying to understand like

Lila Roseyour world view on this if you're make it's a it's it makes you let's move away from let's move away from porn um can I ask one question one more it's okay if you want to move away

Brian AtlasAdam what what's your body count like 600-ish 600-ish okay all right uh you don't want to share correct I would share but he would tell me not to oh many dozens

Adam22you would share but but Adam would advise me not to and that will probably be mad I told her a long time ago I'm like don't don't ever tell anyone your exact number just because it's just oh I don't even think it's right no is range

Christyacceptable less than 100. all right there you go uh mine's probably I'm 33 I'm single mine's probably around 22. this one around 22.

Adam22okay it is a pretty low number and I think that if I met you and that and that was your age and Body Count I would be like no yes that's super that's actually very low for my perspective

Christyexactly it is the count I'm not trying everyone and then I don't around just

Christybecause I have a job okay uh what about you okay is it is it range do you want to do range

Christyshe wants to do ratio I don't know you said you lost track I don't keep track of that I don't know but so you lost track 30 ish okay sure

Brenna/Madisonyeah um multiply it by three and that's the real number for everybody

Lila RoseI'm gonna get bullied again but it's eight een is Lila if you want just couldn't work I mean it's just my husband one okay three

Brian Atlasuh just one okay there you have it folks a little bit of nervousness we have a chat here from Rippy if two men could have a child

Brian Atlasand those two men are RFK and uh Stevo I think we have a rare View on what their daughter looks and sounds like if she was going through major identity

Adam22who do you think would carry the baby RFK or Stevo if they had were to have some sort of gay child yeah I think Stevo would probably be that I think you're beautiful so don't listen to the

Christychat I already know that's why they're chatting about me well I don't think it's about appearance I think it's it's more so to do with the voice um I think it's that I'm hot as and

Brian Atlaspeople are haters and they're hiding behind a screen and I'm probably getting a lot of fans that actually like me and think I'm hot haters are gonna hate there yeah Hi Hater controversy does not

Brian Atlasbother me at all uh so we have a note here one of um it's Bren right uh you said in your pre-show information that you sent us that you had a story

Brennaabout something on a highway can you tell us that story shootout that's actually really good okay so one day I'm driving down literally

Brennathe highway and I see this guy pull up in a truck next to me and I'm like oh he's kind of cute and he's like call me and the number was on the side of his truck so I'm like

Brennaso I'm like okay I'm gonna call him so I call him and he's like hey I think you're cute I love to take you out sometime sure want to take you out next Tuesday and I'll stay with my parents that

Brennasummer I was on college break um so I'm getting ready and my mom comes upstairs she's like Bren your date's here to see you and she looks like a little confused I'm like

Brennayeah my date like I'm really excited and I walk outside and he's a legit

Brian Atlasuh I I believe the correct term is dwarf or little person okay

Brennaokay so it was a a dwarf yeah okay it was a door no person okay yeah so you went on the date no so he like he's like I borrowed my

Brennabrother's sports car for the night and he like pulls all the way like to touch the break and he's like I thought we could go to the beach for the night which is like 45 minutes away and I'm like

Brian Atlasno he like pulled all the weight like oh he was all the way up yes all the way up yeah there's also like things that very special yeah yeah and like

BrennaI just he's like all right we'll go to the beach and I'm in my head I'm like I can't do this I can't do this so I text on my girlfriends and I'm like oh my God you have to like call me and say some

Brennakind of emergency happen so she did and I'm like I'm so sorry like so and so and isn't a hospital we gotta go home

Brian Atlasand so you lied I did he took me home with but like haven't you ever been asked out on a date with a guy who say wasn't a dwarf but like you kind of knew

Brian Atlasthat maybe like you you weren't really feeling it but you just went on the date no I don't waste my time so if a guy asks you out on a date and then

Adam22like I think the polite thing to do would be go on the date but then just not yeah but I didn't want to waste any of our time well that's how a villains created but I could have told the truth you could have said hey I'm not into

Brennalittle people bring me home I think he knew from her facial expression yeah so then when he dropped me off he sent me a text and he's like it happens to me all the time oh my God so okay just for

Brian Atlasclarification he was you were driving I was driving so I couldn't so you didn't look like you didn't you couldn't tell that I couldn't tell that he was like what four foot

Brian Atlascouldn't you just I mean like what else were you doing that night couldn't you have still just gone on the date and even though you had no interest in them just had like a pleasant haven't you ever gone on a date with a guy she didn't want to lead him on which is

Lila Rosevery respectable you didn't want to lead him on I didn't want to lead him on exactly but I think like the I don't know I don't know like one trick I've learned as you went before I obviously got married is like if you're not attracted just be like listen I really appreciate you going putting yourself

Lila Roseout there yeah ask me out but I'm just not attracted you know but I really wish you the best yeah it hurts a little bit but it's respectful and you know in the end I'm just not in it would you what what would you do let me give you a

Adam22hypothetical well I'm down like I'm I'm actually down today the dwarf so like oh we saw one the other night back in the day in New York I'm in a bar and I'm like I sit down next to this girl and we end up in a full

Adam22conversation and she seems great we get each other's numbers she invites me over to her house it's pretty obvious that she wants to sleep together because she's invited me over her house at like three in the morning and so I ride my bike over to her house in the cold and

Adam22she's sitting downstairs on the stoop in front of her house in front of her apartment which I thought was very strange because any normal person would probably want to stay inside as long as possible and I go she's like what do you want to do am I going to go upstairs she

Adam22says yes and she has this kind of like walk with like you know like her legs are like clearly like not moving properly and like I guess she I I looked her Facebook and it seemed like she was in some horrible car accident or

Adam22something like that but like she clearly thought we're gonna sleep together and I don't know there was just something about her walk that just turned me off so much that I just couldn't do it at all so I've been there before she had a

Adam22limp she had like you ever been see a girl's like a horrible car accident and her legs are just kind of like moving in this like crazy Direction and you're gonna get canceled Adam well I don't care no but then what's crazy is that she starts dating some kickboxing

Adam22champion and I kept seeing him around town and he kept looking at me like he was going to beat the out of me and I'm like are you gonna beat me up because I didn't want to your girlfriend you do you kind of knowing that she was

Adam22able to snag that that fighter did you have second thoughts about it did make me think like maybe I was a little too close-minded but honestly it just sucked the wind out of the room like I just I couldn't anywhere outside

Brian Atlasbut I just I could not find myself attracted to her at all it just I don't know okay yeah me personally I think it would have been polite to still have gone on the date

Brian Atlasyou know because he he drove to come pick you up he got all ready I I think it would have been polite to just obviously not you know have a polite platonic conversation with him and

Brennaobviously you don't have to go on a second date but it sucks though because that's right that's what I'm saying you're just leading him on even more and he wants to go to the beach and have a romantic Beach Center I just once once you agree

Adam22to go on that date it's like there's gonna be a moment of Cruelty here whether it's you rip the Band-Aid straight off or you do it like really slow you know yeah it really sucks and then good and ghosted is even worse you might as well just be honest that's true

Brennadidn't you also have a ghosting situation yeah what was that so I dated my ex for two and a half years and

Brennaum we lived in Atlanta together I was in Nashville for work I came home one weekend he was gone all of his stuff was gone um and then his dad reached out to mine to

Brennatell me it was over and I haven't heard from him since so nice yeah hi Brian did you oh his name's Brian with an r or why why the worst have you checked on Facebook like what

Brian Atlasdo you think oh I didn't mention this he got back together with his ex for the third time that sounds like some a guy would do if he found out his like that's what I would do if my girl was cheating on me no shoe ever no I wasn't

Brennayeah I would have married him like I would would have done anything for him and if anything no I swear like it was like

Brennatwo days prior to that he's like I can't wait to marry you and and it's like you know when you know something's going on like I don't know it was I had an intuition

Isabella DeLucait's very possible especially if the her boyfriend was already seeing the ex then yeah of course it would have been way easy for him to just cut her off and not say anything yeah that's painful I'm

Brennasorry it was so painful the worst pain I've ever gone through I had to take leave from work and all that fun stuff but you're better now it just it makes you

Adam22realize what you don't want and yeah but we live in such a weird world where people just will like walk away from a situation right not even have the conversation like the ghosting thing is

Adam22so common and it's just like I mean I kind of like got into a relationship like as that was becoming more the norm since we started seeing each other in like 2016 but that just is kind of

Adam22terrible I feel like if anything if you want to be a good guy or a good person always be down to give somebody an exit interview I think it's being honest even if it's the worst truth you have to give is better way better than making someone

Brenna/Madisonjust wonder like a million different things and then his dad to reach out to mine that is some a lot of men just avoid that because they don't know how to properly like communicate yeah yeah yeah like and especially like

Adam22firing people I've made this mistake a million times but if you fire somebody and you really like give them your time and explain to them why this job was not going to work out or why they up so bad that you can't continue to employ

Adam22them or whatever it's probably going to go over okay whereas if you just kind of like let somebody go and don't really tell what's going on a lot of times that becomes like the angry ex-employee you know

Brian Atlasthing happens Brian what there's more stories that's a good one though here I'll read I'll read these Martin for blondie I'm having terrible difficulty conceptualizing ratios could you please tell me what is the ratio for a delusional woman who believes she's hot

Brian Atlasand interesting to the desperate men who lied to her for sex please feel free to be a scientific can you ask him to send us um a selfie

Christyuh marquavius because I want to see what he looks like because she's hiding behind us text messages and behind the screen I don't know if he's down to send a selfie he probably isn't because he's probably

Brian Atlassuper ugly guys go to twitch.tv slash whatever drop us a follow-up drop us a prime sub twitch.tv slash whatever drop us follow drops to Prime sub thank you oh actually let me shout out uh yo hobo

Brian Atlasthing for the prime boot I think for the tier one Stevo think for the prime Mr steak I think for the prime pans I think for the prime I was caging could you how do you

Brian Atlaspronounce that KJ and Karen thank for that raid earlier uh and then B Star thing for the prime appreciate it uh wait okay so I'm still caught up on this dwarf thing no

Brian Atlashonestly the best policy what if he was slanging like puffy Vegas like he had a size doesn't matter he had just a meat Cannon no no no he was a Dick Smith

Brian Atlaslike Adam no have you guys done any thing with the little person no not yet although I'm totally open to that people always ask

Adam22if I'm into the trans thing or if I'm gonna go gay the answer is no but the the or the little person I could definitely be open to that okay

Brian Atlasall right nice nice I don't know you could have gone you could have gone on a date with him that's all I'm saying I think I saved him in the long run

Brian AtlasI wonder what what would have been like you could have just told him was it better to make the whole excuse about the emergency or would have been better to have just said I didn't know you were dwarf I know the

Brennamoral of the story is don't go on a date with a guy that you meet driving on the highway with the number on the side of his truck I wonder if that's his move because probably some people can't see it probably is his move okay what if you

Adam22end up going on a date with a girl like same thing but she's 400 pounds and you don't realize it from the way she looks in the car like I have had that happen to me where I showed up to meet a girl off Myspace back in the day and she was

Adam22massive and yeah still banged her you know I just did it anyway because I was like what else am I doing yeah but for sure that's a fair point that is a fair point no yeah yeah that's how my body

Brian Atlascount got so high but I I try to do my due diligence though when it comes to I'm pretty sure I uh would avoid a catfish scenario yeah now knowing what I know now it's like I know exactly what

Adam22girls are doing to make them look like something different on social media but you know 2003 I definitely did not know that a lot of girls don't look what they

Brian Atlaslook like and the pictures and stuff so that is true a lot of filters are being used on dating apps I think it should actually be a crime to use a face filter

Adam22on dating well doesn't Tick Tock like suggest it now too so a girl doesn't even have to like seek out a filter it's just right there but it says when a filter is being used like yeah yeah but a lot of guys even the ones who are kind

Adam22of paying attention probably don't know that there's like video filters as well so like in general if you look at a girl's Instagram and it seems like all of her photos have weird effects and like shading and everything looks kind

Brian Atlasof like Blurry or soft and you're probably getting duped I guess that's kind of similar to like what about a guy who's wearing a hat to cover up he might be balls oh yes

Brennawell that's all over Bumble hat and sunglasses that's the worst holding a fish usually yeah or hunting with a deer like it's all they're always the balls but

Christythat's like well I have a hobby I'm a Hunter that's cool and I love not as humans I need a guy with long blonde hair passage holders yeah long blonde hair passes very specific

Christyman I'm actually pretty biblical and I love Jesus even though you don't think I do wasn't he an Egyptian

Brennaand and you know what I also don't like is when they pose with a hot friend wait do you have a couple on your phone right now I have hinge can I look at your profile on your phone but I won't show it to the

Brennacamera can I just say that I thought we were in logic I literally just redownload it the other day oh okay okay definitely okay it's not horrible but it's not yeah her Wi-Fi has been a

Adam22little up she has to swipe like eight times before she gets to it and then she has to search for it yeah okay I've never been on hinge

Brian Atlasyou're lucky a little bit of bumble in there I'm convinced that dating apps don't work so prove me wrong okay Conservative Christian looking for a

Brian Atlaslife partner uh when I need advice I go to Taylor Swift that's an l oh my God you just made a

Brian Atlasfriend yeah yeah wait every single photo here on your dating app is either filter and or makeup

Brian AtlasI like to put a little maple syrup no I don't put that I don't put anything in my hair I just don't shampoo for three yeah are those not good photos no but you you do have like a filter on every photo

Brenna/Madisonlike it's 2013 and you just got Instagram that is pretty funny I don't think I don't think there's anything wrong her face isn't changing it's just the shade of color yeah no no no filters

Brian Atlasfilters are misrepresentations use filters on dating apps it is you you are misrepresenting how you look really it should not yeah I think your

Christyprofiles you need to have at least one photo I think yours is one photo one of the most real ones yeah I don't think I look that different no those filters are oh dude nope needs to be one photo without any makeup or any filter yeah

Adam22because he's having a bunch of crazy filters in phase two going on on your Instagram is one thing but as soon as you put that on a dating app it is kind of like like I feel like dating app you should try a little bit harder to like be representing what you actually look

Christylike not that you don't look like those photos it's just like the filters in the face tune let's go actually tell me better than what I look like on my dating apps even though this these trolls don't believe you have a dating

Christyapp right now can I look at yours yeah but so I'm actually I have two songs and I didn't bring my work phone because my purse is so small today but I'm kicked off of them on this phone I but I do have uh coffee meets bagel on this one

Adam22you got banned from the beginning yeah what were you doing promoting my only fans yep there you go I've heard a lot of girls say they got banned for that but I do have coffee meets bagel and I actually read it to

Christyher it's a date that I wasn't let's take a look at my profile is like a little bit aggressive but like oh yeah that's great I'll read it

Christyum and this was before I had boobs by the way oh wow that's I mean that's a bit misleading well that is my picture though but I think you should really read what the profile maybe fake breasts

Lena The Plugor deal breaker for a guy maybe you should maybe they are amazing for myself you don't like them I'm not a fan damn what if they look really natural I'm not dating you I can tell no but I have

Christyplenty of girlfriends where they just look Supernatural but I got these six weeks ago they haven't even dropped I can't even actually work now you don't like them

Brian Atlasno I just don't like it in general I'm not in favor of plastic surgery in general I think you should read like what I wrote like not the appearance both okay both yeah and I'm so fervent I

Brian Atlashave my non-profit if you lost your hair would you get a hair transplant no I'd probably just go bald I got two of them yeah Michelle I'm probably I'm probably only

Brian Atlasa few years away from that but uh so okay you're a Pilates Aficionado let's go Brandon okay obviously I have to weed out the week I didn't do that was in there oh I have to beat out of the

Brian Atlasweekend partner in crime to conquer the world with yeah who should pay on the first date the man I hate feminism and I love toxic masculinity it runs these documents toxic masculinity we are not

Brian Atlasequals we are equality equally the same okay men and women have opposite strengths and weaknesses and that's why together we make a Hole uh

Christylet's see uh let me look at the photos oh here's the photo read the rest of it what that's pretty much it I think there's two other questions that I answered on there the one is like I

Brian Atlasdon't think anything every single photo on here you're it's either face filter and or makeup and I don't have you're misrepresenting your physical appearance on the dating

Christyapp but like how many girls actually my hair is blonder that no exactly they should that's my dog this this is my dog dude that's a good looking dog that one's not that's not filtered are you kidding me

Christyyeah it's a little misleading this is not she looks like that in person not exactly yeah she looks like this in person you guys off I don't have tits and my hair is blonder and longer this is not face apps this is with my

Christydog because every single one of those photos is you wearing makeup can I tell you something what girls don't want makeup in there yeah you know but straight up straight up straight up though makeup I feel like you're gonna

Christyhate on me and Austin whatever go ahead but straight up when guys meet me in person they always tell me that I look better than my photos do they probably you yeah it's because they're trying yeah no they want to bug me

Brian Atlasbecause I'm hotter yeah of course in real life than in photos no what they're doing is they're lying to you to get laid you're never gonna tell a girl that you think she's unattractive if you're trying to yeah but I mean I suppose

Christysome guys might employ that why would they want to me if I were ugly I mean like I know because we're men I know you used to do it but I'll the morbidly obese just because they were there I I'm not dating that type of people like oh yeah you are you just

Adam22don't know maybe not morbid but I want more of it you're you're down for more well I mean I don't know I just did it I don't know it's kind of shameful in

Brian Atlasretrospect but I did it I know I look better in real life so I don't have to like worry about no look you can move however you want I just think it's uh for example if every night

Brian Atlasif ever if a guy who was bald say if in every single photo he was wearing a hat I think that I look hotter unfair in real life than this I haven't even updated that yeah that's like Tim Poole

Christysaying I actually looked better without the beanie what's the read literally like should your partner share your beliefs Yes mine needs to believe in

ChristyFreedom and Maga with a American flag like you didn't read the actual part that matters I read I read part of it yeah but you only read a little bit of it because you didn't want me to look good on my dating app what are you

Christytalking about that because you didn't like my pictures you didn't like my answers and my answers were real as the conversation the answers are real dude congratulations the thank you the

Christyconversation was about make we were talking about makeup and plastic surgery the only plastic surgery I've ever had are my boobs that I got six weeks ago I haven't had anything else besides

ChristyFurniture that's great and yeah a lot of my boyfriends didn't want me to have them and then I decided to just do whatever the I wanted to do and not care about what they thought

Brian Atlasand I don't regret it take that that's Brian I love them okay all right uh wait so uh wait a minute we

Brian Atlaswere having a little bit of a back and forth there you were kind of questioning my take on plastic surgery

Lena The Plugor like just a belief you had or if it was like based on the appearance because I've seen a lot of really natural looking fake breasts so that's why I was curious I don't think there's what if you fall for a girl and her ass looked

Lena The Plugreally real and then you find out it was fake what oh do you have a BBI I have a like a very subtle BBL I guess you could say she waited six months to tell me yeah he was like I have fake hair I was like well I have a fake ass and my jaw

Lena The Plugdropped I couldn't believe it so that's why I'm curious like what if you fell for her and then you find out I mean how would I I don't think I'm like fall for a girl without what if you like well she changed her

Brian Atlasnose like who cares well I mean I think there's degrees to plastic surgery I'm trying to get down yeah yeah yeah well I think some procedures are more invasive than others I think uh for example like

Brian Atlasif if I had to list it out for example I think a BBL is much more invasive than a lip fillers for example

Lena The Plugum yeah or like implants are more invasive than uh but is the degrees of uh like I don't know invasiveness on the body is that why you care is it because

Brian Atlasshe's trying to make herself appear more sexy and maybe well I just I I one from a purely aesthetic I don't find it attractive but I'm saying it because

Lena The Pluglike there are a lot of girls who are like 110 pounds who actually do have bbls and you just can't tell but it's not a good eye for bbls when you think BBL you're probably thinking like Nicki Minaj BBL you're not thinking

Brian Atlasof like a very subtle appearance sure okay even the subtle one where it's kind of yeah I'm not I'm not in favor of it but if you fell in love with a girl and you found out it was fake how would that but I would know you would not know that's

Lena The Plugwhat I'm trying to say there's this she wouldn't tell me yeah why would she tell you you especially in the beginning I didn't tell him for a long time I'm just saying like the surgery is getting very very good

Brian AtlasI would have to see an example of one of these realistic okay I'll show you like a million what if I was on steroids and I never told you like I mean liver King

Brian Atlasit wouldn't like be a deal breaker for us but like I just think it's a bit of a red flag let me just finish my point not look no that's good for you live your life just me personally in terms of my prep

Brian Atlaspersonal preferences I have a very strong preference for women who don't have any sort of cosmetic surgery and that's fair and there's a slime

Lena The PlugI mean fake tits I'd gotta go I think this is one thing and there's like you know and you can feel it you can feel it but there's a lot of surgeries that you can't tell I don't know it's just like

Brian AtlasI don't want to date a girl who has acted upon body dysmorphia

Lena The Plugdysmorphia what do you mean like you know you you have like a diocese recti so all your abs separated so then you needed a tummy tuck to put them back together oh but I mean I I'm not familiar with that procedure but perhaps

Brian Atlasthere's it's aesthetic still but it's also like there might be some functionality there I don't know but like let's take a woman who's never had kids

Brian Atlaswell for I I don't think I would ever date a single mom so uh there's that but okay that's all right it's all right but but like okay

Brian Atlasmaybe this doesn't sound like kind of cringy or simply or whatever but I think women are just beautiful as they are however they've manifested uh so I think they're just beautiful without the need

Brian Atlasto undergo potentially dangerous expensive and unnecessary cosmetic surgery and in my view I think it actually makes a lot of women look worse and uh you know obviously I think you

Brian Atlasshould take good care of yourself Fitness diet hygiene Etc but uh for example like let's say a girl who's just totally flat had no boobs

ChristyI would prefer that than her with like perfect big fake tits but you know what I went 33 years of life like that and I was like you know

Christywhat I'm gonna actually just do what I want to do what if she could I'm not trying to attract a guy like you so it doesn't matter I'm not I'm not saying this to take shots at you I'm just I'm talking about my preferences and I'm talking

Lena The Plugabout mine what if she's like looking problems so then she had to get like a rhinoplasty uh well I think that's actually I have a deviated septum and I got you know what if she has a penis and she has to get it removed and also

Brian Atlasthat's a no pressure that's a strong no-go uh no I think functionally if you're having breathing issues I think that's totally fine and if maybe if she

Brian Atlaskind of caught uh aesthetically fixes it along the way fine whatever uh rhinoplasty isn't a big thing but like fake tits BBL lipo labia plasti that's a how many girls you

Adam22actually know who have labium but this is the thing is because you have many times said that you don't like a big bodybuilder looking ass dude and you don't like a guy who looks like he puts too much time and effort into his body which a lot of girls will say that that

Adam22they prefer kind of like a dad bod to a guy who looks like a UFC fighter or a bodybuilder why can't like it's it's kind of almost like the same thing right it's like you don't want a guy who looks like he's like spending all this stuff he's kind of saying the same thing he

Lena The Plugdoesn't he's not attracted to a girl who's gone through these procedures but he still look beautiful he's saying he would never be with a girl like that and he would know right away like if I fell for a guy who had that like five percent body fat steroid look then I would just

Christybe like all right deep down inside he would probably allow for the chance that it's possible he could fall for a girl yeah he would never you would never go for a girl certain way like she would never go for a dwarf so why can she say

Christyshe would never want to do that and wanted to get off of the date and you can say you would never go for a girl that didn't that had surgery and you can oh that's you can't leave the date early but she she can do whatever she wants I

Brian Atlasknow but it's like she has her never than you of your Nevers so I don't understand what like the whole thing is that she left well it's just it's just a different assessment of what yeah but but everyone is there never can you stop interrupting me yeah yeah

Brian Atlaseveryone knows it's just a difference of what I would view as perhaps doing the polite thing I think hey look if she doesn't if and I definitely actually see the argument of hey if you're just not interested maybe

Brian Atlasjust cut it short and save both people time me personally in those circumstances I would just you know go have a nice night go get dinner but I can also see the other side of it too but just bringing it back to plastic

Brian Atlassurgery uh I'll take small boobs over fake tits even like for example lipo I don't like the Lipo belly I prefer a girl with a little little belly fat than

Brian Atlasperfectly flat lipo belly I'll take a flat ass over a BBL and I'll take a small upper lip over lip fillers uh and uh

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