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00:01:50Lena The Pluggoing to have the guests introduce themselves so please tell us your name age and occupation go ahead hi everyone I'm Lena the plug I'm 32 years old and
00:01:59Adam22I'm an only fans Creator and a mom my name is adam22 I'm 39 years old and I
00:02:08Adam22am a podcaster and Dick Smith what is that what's a Dick Smith I slang pipe for a living that's at least one part of my hype Slinger yeah like a
00:02:20Christyblacksmith okay makes sense nice yeah hi I'm Christy I'm 33 years old I'm an
00:02:29Brenna/Madisononly only fans model and content creator I'm Brenna I'm 34 and I am a publicist my name is Madison I'm 18. I'm the
00:02:40Brenna/Madisonsecretary to Kiki on the whatever podcast I'm a host at a bar and as well as a student at Santa Barbara City College studying business my name is Lila Rose and I'm 34 I'm a
00:02:53Ruslanwife and a mom and the founder of live action and a podcaster my name is Ruslan I'm 38. I'm a follower of Jesus husband father YouTuber
00:03:03Isabella DeLucapodcaster my name is Isabella I am 23 years old I am a conservative influencer and I am a fellow at an international strategy Think Tank
00:03:15Brian Atlasrock and roll welcome everybody I'm 34. I'm a podcast host and not a Dick Smith okay um so uh let's go around the table once
00:03:25Brian Atlasmore what's your current relationship status so are you single are you in a relationship talking stage situationship Friends with Benefits relationship married poly cool sex cult um if you're single how long have you
00:03:38Lena The Plugbeen single and what's your longest relationship go ahead hi I'm married to Adam as of May we've been together for seven years and that's the longest relationship I've ever been in yeah
00:03:50Christyseven years longest relationship all right hi um I'm currently single I've been single for five months now um I'm in the talking stages with a few
00:04:02Brennapeople but very single long longest relationship three years three years okay I am single
00:04:16Brenna/Madisonhis girlfriend after two dates and then he broke off with me a week later so there's that but my longest relationship was four years okay I'm currently not single my current
00:04:28Ruslanrelationship is my longest relationship and it's been 11 months I married for five years and that's my longest relationship married 15 years together a total of 19
00:04:41Ruslanyears so we're at that phase where we've been together longer than we've been apart I am currently how long have you been seeing said person about like
00:04:55Brian Atlasone month okay yeah longest relationship longest relationship was without a year about a year okay got it got it a couple
00:05:05Brian Atlasquestions for everybody uh Lena how did you get the knit the nickname Elena the plug what's the story there it's not an exciting story I wish I could tell you it was about butt plugs but at my old
00:05:16Lena The Plugjob before porn I was like a really good employee my boss called me the plug and that is honestly where they came from okay yeah
00:05:25Adam22uh the 22 when I was 15 I started a live Journal which some people remember it was like a very early blogging service and I had to put a number after my name
00:05:35Adam22because Adam was taken and I was that was the beginning of the end got it and what's the story with the Lisa Simpson tattoo so Lil peep was a rapper that I was close with he died of a drug
00:05:48Adam22overdose in 2017 and he had that tattooed on his throat and then I got it on the side of my head thanks yeah okay when he passed yeah got it got it so you
00:05:58Adam22guys have been together for seven years okay how did you two meet and Instagram she DM me because she was working for a social media startup and she wanted to uh get me to interview
00:06:10Lena The Plugsome girls she was representing yeah they're like get us Outreach on podcasts and I only knew one podcast at the time so I sent him a DM and you asked me when he was gonna buy me a drink so yeah yeah that's how I ended up here that was
00:06:23Brian Atlasmy line I said when are you gonna buy me a drink yeah you're gonna take me on a date something like that and you guys have is it two kids or just one just one one kid okay is there plans for more or definitely more when you do porn and
00:06:36Lena The Plugyour body is your job deciding like when to get pregnant is a really big deal but if I didn't do what I do for a living I probably would already be pregnant again well she's a mere 32 so we're definitely
00:06:46Lena The Pluggonna probably crank out at least one more crank out yeah yeah it's undecided no no we want more kids for sure it's just when is you know the timeline is
00:06:55Brian Atlashard to figure out gotcha and so you guys uh shoot adult content yeah uh you do content together but then Adam do you also shoot with other women or not
00:07:07Adam22really I did one time because she had a stomach virus but besides that we only shoot together for the most part and then she but she recently did her first scene with another guy which was kind of yes the first time that we branched out
00:07:19Brian Atlasinto that and I mean that's definitely made the rounds uh it was a bit of a thing it was a bit of a thing um and so actually you know what we have
00:07:30Brian Atlasthe uh a clip from your Instagram Nick if you can pull it up but where you kind of announced that you were you know gonna work with Jason love Yeah and uh are you guys still close with Jason or I
00:07:43Adam22don't know if we're ever really close with him I mean our friendship has gone through a little bit of stress since the scene just because he kind of was yapping his mouth uh on some podcasts
00:07:54Adam22and stuff kind of talking crazy so yeah that definitely made it so she when we were talking about because we were thinking about doing like a sort of like game show type thing or like an American Idol type tryout thing for us to find
00:08:07Adam22the next dude that we're gonna film adult content with and so we were we were saying that we're definitely gonna have to like really have a group chat where we fill them in on all of our thoughts on what's appropriate and
00:08:18Brian Atlaswhat's not appropriate since we are taken these sort of leaps with our content and as I understand it it was a was it a wedding present from
00:08:28Lena The Plugwas is that it wasn't the actual wedding present okay before we got married we had the discussion about if I should shoot with another guy and Adam had said yes and then after when I was going to shoot it which was shortly after the wedding Adam made a joke like you should
00:08:41Brian Atlassay this is your wedding present like you gave me all these threesome hundreds of threesomes just say that I gave you like your past or whatever do you guys no longer do threesomes or we did the results every week oh okay yeah I am but
00:08:52Adam22you don't shoot separately solo with other women typically right I mean like it honestly wouldn't really be a big deal I don't think if I were to do that but I don't really gotta get my business yeah I only got so much time do we have
00:09:05Adam22the clip uh I was wondering which one you wanted the first one
00:09:20Brian Atlaswith Jason for the record rounds go ahead oh uh hold on you gotta unmute it
00:09:31Lena The Pluggo ahead hey guys guess what I'm shooting with today
00:09:38Brian Atlasit's finally happening wow I do not know you're gonna do that okay you can pause it um so that that's the guy who you did a
00:09:49Adam22scene with you haven't seen it I have not seen it damn Brian I have not it's a free sub what's that I can get your free subscription to my page that's like not listening to the new Taylor Swift album or something yeah there you have it
00:10:01Brian Atlasthere you have it I'm out of the loop I'm a boomer pretty much um so uh how did you guys distribute it was it through oh Europe my only fans page yeah and to unlock it did you just need a sub
00:10:14Lena The Plugor did you also have to pay like an additional it was 20 in the messages which for a first of any sort is like kind of on the cheaper side I hear of some girls charging like 50 100 150. but
00:10:26Brian Atlasokay so in addition to having to sub to your of also there was a price to unlock it was 20 20. okay uh do you guys know how many
00:10:36Lena The Plugdownloads it's got I don't know are you able to track that um I don't think so not per video like that well you can see like how many people bought it
00:10:45Lena The Plugum but uh do you guys know the numbers it's on the many seven digits in income really but well but as far as like I mean it leaked a lot I would love to know like the leak number so I could actually know how many people viewed it
00:10:58Brian Atlaseven if they didn't pay for it yeah I'm sure it got leaked oh yeah everywhere re-up was it re-uploaded on various websites yeah I had like three different dmca teams on it like in different time zones so did you guys get um any
00:11:11Adam22backlash oh yeah yeah yeah we had definitely never got like the conservative Community backlash before but then also like obviously I'm in the hip-hop world podcast was and everything so there's
00:11:24Adam22definitely uh an element of stigma from that and you know it's obviously all like some of it's super serious was like people who really think there's like the worst thing you could possibly do and then there's people that just want to get their jokes off
00:11:36Brian Atlasum so it's kind of all over the place in terms of that you know gotcha um so we have some other married people here do you guys have any thoughts on the sort of arrangement that they have
00:11:50Lila Roseum I mean I I'm extremely grateful to be married my husband's a awesome guy and um you know I was sort of praying and waiting my life for to find a man like him and when I did I was
00:12:02Lila Roseso grateful so yeah I mean for us Fidelity is really really big we think that's part of being married is that it's a sacred promise to each other so I think that's obviously a difference I think philosophically that
00:12:15Lila Rosewe have um but yeah I mean having that intimacy Together part of intimacy I believe is just for us too and that has to do with sex that's sacred I believe it's sacred
00:12:27Adam22and is for just people who are married and committed to each other for life well let me tell you something is that the first time we ever hooked up we had had a few drinks but we facetimed
00:12:40Adam22a girl who was a mutual friend of ours during a BJ aspect of us hooking up which I say just to say that for us it has always come very natural that we had
00:12:51Adam22like a little bit of that exhibitionist streak in us and like so I think a lot of people view the Jason love scene or us doing like different kind of stuff outside the box as being kind of like
00:13:02Adam22shocking but I say that just to say that like for us it wasn't really much of a stretch you know like as time went by in our relationship and we started shooting you know professional content with other
00:13:13Adam22girls or just us or whatever it just didn't really strike us as super out of the ordinary so for like most people they would be going from being in a strict relationship where they're practicing
00:13:25Adam22monogamy to like then the idea of another guy coming in and like sleeping with their wife like a lot of people can't really seem to have a hard time wrapping their head around the fact that for us it was content that if she had
00:13:36Adam22just really been dying to have a new penis inside of her then she you know we could have had that conversation for sure but you know this definitely wasn't really that it was really more of like a
00:13:47Lena The Plugbusiness plan yeah for us if it's not cheating or infidelity because it was all you know talked about but everyone has their own guide in terms of what makes what's cheating in a relationship and uh you
00:13:58Lena The Plugknow if I was texting Jason right now probably that would be considered cheating but me having gone to at a certain time and place and told my husband like I'm gonna him and we're gonna film it you know that was
00:14:10Ruslannot cheating so it's just are you guys familiar with Wilt Chamberlain yeah is that sucks with what like 9 000 women or something yeah he said I know what it's like to have sex with a thousand women yeah he said but in
00:14:23Adam22hindsight I would rather have sex with one woman a thousand times hmm no I respect that for sure I I end up thinking about that a lot in terms of like you know I think before her I'd had sex with something like 300 girls and
00:14:35Adam22then us being together probably like another 300 and it's like I don't regret that by any means because I think that in some way you know you have to sleep with some number of women before you can
00:14:47Adam22make some kind of educated decision about what kind of woman you want to spend the rest of your life with now that being said like what is that number obviously a lot of people think or not a lot but like some people think that it's preferable to be a virgin before you get
00:14:59Adam22into a relationship I don't personally really think you have enough information uh about what you're into or not into before you've slept with anyone and obviously there's a lot of ways to get to know somebody besides just sleeping
00:15:12Adam22with them but myself I've personally had the experience many times of you know pining over a girl for weeks and then finally sleeping with her and her vagina is just blown to Smithereens it was just
00:15:24Adam22no good I couldn't get any kind of enjoyment out of it and to me that just like you need to find that out before you actually go for it you know okay if you're marrying a virgin I mean that
00:15:34Adam22kind of eliminates that entire I think some with vaginas feels like inherently blown out like I think they just they come like that just they just are up yeah like some that's just a genetic thing that's something like all
00:15:46Adam22different all kinds of different size vaginas just the same way that like ladies I'm sure you wouldn't want to marry some guy and then find out he had a two and a half inch penis right see yeah you have to see it first I think it depends on like your view of the person
00:15:59Lila Rosebecause if if our view of the person is what can they give me like in terms of immediate sexual gratification as opposed to is this someone that I want to choose to love because I think love
00:16:10Lila Roseis a choice and someone that I would see raising a family with one day and I could be with together for life and then you figure out sex together and you can keep optimizing your sex by loving each other more and more and more but
00:16:22Lila Roseultimately it's a love is a choice I believe and it's one that is a gift of yourself and you receive the gift of the other person but if I had started to hang out with her and the first time
00:16:33Adam22that I saw her vagina it was a venus fly trap it's just I want to know that before I get into like a serious relationship I think that's very valuable information like I think there are big vaginas they're big dicks there
00:16:45Adam22are small vaginas or small dicks and realistically they need to be matched up appropriately wait wait hold on Venus fly trap what do we talk are we talking about Audi well just like I'm just picturing like a bunch of like venom and
00:16:57Adam22poison and all kinds of like spiked teeth and stuff like within the vagina I don't know can I say something sure I think it's like an energetic connection like when you're hooking up with someone
00:17:08Christyeither like energetically have a connection with them or you don't that's like while you're like kiss with your eyes closed and stuff you could like feel there and if I have like bad sex is done that night yeah but also like with
00:17:21Christythat being said I don't think it's about the number I think it's about the ratio like certain people have sir a lot some people just everyone
00:17:31Christywants to them and if they've a hundred people and 7 000 people wanted to them that's like a pretty low ratio you live in the middle of nowhere no one really wants to you you're not that good looking and you slept with
00:17:44Christy10 people that's like kind of a big deal maybe only 10 people wanted to you in your whole life and you all of them like I think it's about the ratio not the number
00:18:01Christyit depends where you live it totally depends on the city if you go ow how you look like if everyone like that if you're going to the pool and you look a certain way and
00:18:12Christyeveryone wants to you and you're well what's happening to everyone and you're not a slob but it's like I don't know you don't look a certain way you don't go out 10 people want to you and you all of them 10 sounds like
00:18:24Christya low number compared to 50 but if out of a thousand fifties
00:18:32Christylike the difference between like ratio and like body count are you saying they're two separate things yeah yeah yeah I know I'm saying body count doesn't matter it's the ratio to body count it's about the opportunity
00:18:43Christyso like if we both had like a hundred guys wanting to us no way no like if you had a hundred and I had like a thousand it's hard no
00:18:55Ruslandifferent things on the ratio yeah how many opportunities you took me could I you said something about energy a transfer energy is it is it fair to say that we all agreed or
00:19:07Ruslansomething that's spiritual oh yeah yeah and and we all acknowledge that the higher your body count the harder it becomes to pair bond down the road no because I'm saying it's about the ratio
00:19:18Lena The Plugno I'm I'm not what if you already bond with someone and then you guys decide together that you guys can go sleep with other people I think it doesn't I think it'll add to your connection I think it
00:19:29Lila Rosetakes away I think data says long term maybe we up babe bigger than the data I have a question when it comes to like because you mentioned your parents and what's your
00:19:41Lila Rosewhat are you what's your sort of sense of how you plan to talk to your kid your child or I think you said you want to have more kids which is awesome what is your sense of how to communicate like
00:19:51Lena The Plugyour profession and your work to your kids I mean I think there's a time when your kid is mature to have the conversation about like well this is you know entertainment and the same way you would describe any entertainment and
00:20:03Lena The Plugwe're just entertainment to entertainers in this entertainment business and everything like I don't feel like we're doing anything unethical by having sex filming it and selling it legally and
00:20:15Lena The Plugthen paying a ton of taxes on all of that like there is nothing wrong with that to me and like um I would when she's mature enough just explain that to her I don't know yeah I mean I don't think there's anything wrong with two adults agreeing to
00:20:27Adam22participate in a sex act off camera or on camera and I don't think there's anything wrong with somebody starting and running a business in which they sell a product to people who want to
00:20:36Adam22purchase it so I have no qualms about doing porn but I also like I kind of notice that this always happens where people sort of lay out the terms of our relationship or acknowledge that you know we're in a relationship that's a little non-traditional and like
00:20:49Adam22especially in our case we're not really a polyamorous couple per se because you know compare us to like Destiny and his girl where he has full-on sexual relationships with other girls and I
00:21:01Adam22guess she knows about it but you know that's a separate thing and then you know vice versa she sleeps with other guys um that's kind of like a more extreme version of what we have going where it's
00:21:12Adam22more of just like an on-camera thing you know we almost never in the past like three four years have really hooked up with anybody off camera not that we have anything against it it just hasn't really it just it's primarily a work
00:21:24Adam22thing from our perspective but what people always do is that once we sort of laid that out and everybody seems to be in agreement that there's nothing that you can really say is wrong with two adults engaging in whatever kind of Acts they want to engage in it just instantly
00:21:36Adam22becomes about the kid because there's something inherently uncomfortable about us having the careers that we have and then also having kids now we know a ton of porn stars who basically hide their kids away from the world and nobody
00:21:48Adam22knows that they have kids and given the amount of like intense scrutiny that we've gotten over the past couple months I can kind of understand that we've stopped posting our kids face on social media and stuff like that just because
00:21:59Adam22we don't really want her to have a a life that is so defined by what her parents did for a living but I mean I I say all that just to say that I feel like the argument against people
00:22:10Adam22engaging in sort of non-traditional relationships is kind of weak if you have to instantly pivot into like well what about the kids yeah I think uh there's a design of how we were created
00:22:20Ruslanto function in a one man one woman covenantal Arrangement now I think everything outside of that is unhelpful and I think there is something wrong with porn I think porn is a total net negative to society I'm not sure how
00:22:32Ruslanmany of you guys is like fans that watch you regularly you've met in person uh and how this affects them but I mean Andrew uh huberman did a whole long thing about what happens when someone consumes porn masturbates they open up a
00:22:44Ruslanfeedback loop that's intended to be consumed with someone else I think it's very hard to make the argument that porn is helping people as much as it's harming people it's keeping a lot of these guys regressed it's keeping I mean the in-sale community the red pill stuff
00:22:56Ruslana lot of the people that rail against you guys probably secretly go and watch this stuff which is a really bizarre thing we've seen it with the fresh and fit girls so I I don't know if as a net positive this is something remove the
00:23:08Lena The Plugkids like this is something that you think is actually adding to human flourishing but I everyone tries to always focus on like the extreme porn Watcher but I think that there's like very healthy porn consumers which are
00:23:20Lena The Plugprobably the majority with porn consumption and like I don't think that like women become too important too and I don't think they're sitting around all day just masturbating to porn I mean we both consume it at a very moderate level
00:23:31Adam22I don't know you guys created so it's a bit different yeah but I mean like for me if I was single and I was going to go on a date or even like if me and her are going on a date or I just want to like you know clear the pipes up because I think that's one thing if we're gonna
00:23:45Adam22get into our pickup artist bag here and we have the conversation about like how to basically uh prepare for a night of intimacy with a woman you definitely don't want to be going in there with like five days worth of spunk inside
00:23:57Adam22your body you want to definitely clear the pipes out so that you're going in there kind of fresh and you're able to actually put work in and for me personally that's one of the big benefits of of adult content is that you
00:24:08Adam22know you can just kind of clear your mind I don't think I feel more clear-headed at any point throughout the week than right after I jode because that's when I like really don't have sex
00:24:19Adam22in my brain at all it's like a total clean slate and that's why I A lot of times if I have something to write I gotta you know answer emails for a couple hours I might beat off beforehand you don't see any value to semen
00:24:31Adam22retention and guys being able to control themselves if she that's the last I want inside my body I want to get rid of it at any cost clear me out interesting so that's why when she you
00:24:41Adam22know surprises me with some top midday you don't even know how important what you're doing is in that moment because what you really are doing it's like a stress ball like you're relieving the stress from my body and allowing me to
00:24:54Lila Rosebe a better man welcome thank you oh there you go there's a there's a statistic I saw recently about um divorce and it was that 56 of divorces list pornographies of one of
00:25:07Lila Rosethe partners as one of the top reasons so like to wristle on his point um you know there's a lot of net large at our in our society there's a lot of
00:25:17Lila Roseharm that that porn does to families to marriages and then the top site that trafficked victims are at according to the data is porn show sites meaning
00:25:29Lila Roseyou're going to find a lot of trafficking victims involved in pornography so I think you know Jerusalem's point just looking at the net large impact on society we see a lot of that negative impact that pornography has I mean or the fact that a lot of the
00:25:43Ruslanfolks consuming it are underage and I don't think we'd want that too kids to consume this can I see something on that sure besides for the underage thing just to go back on your point I think if people are watching porn it's because
00:25:54Christytheir husband or wife or spouse or something significant other isn't gratifying them properly and that's why they're looking other ways to do it so
00:26:03Lila Roselike well it's not really like the porn interest industry I think it's the other way around well unfortunately a lot of the porn there's a lot of extreme stuff that happens in a lot of pornography and
00:26:15Lila Roseso yeah that person might be kind of acclimated to want certain more extreme things I understand like if you're like in a committed
00:26:27Christyrelationship and you agree upon certain things then you shouldn't be looking elsewhere and usually if you do look elsewhere it's because you're not getting what you thought you were getting out of it and you everyone has
00:26:38Adam22needs okay like that's part of the role of porn from my perspective is that like let's say I have a huge black woman fetish and then I end up in a relationship with an Armenian woman
00:26:49Adam22should I just live my entire life repressed never getting to produce fluid to the site of a beautiful ebony Queen to me it's better for me to be able to handle that cop the only fans of this
00:27:02Adam22sort of Creator and then just be able to you know do that whereas like same thing with like a lot of fetish stuff like the average girl that you end up in a relationship with say you're a guy who likes to get pegged not really my thing but Brian I don't know I don't know but
00:27:14Adam22let's say you're into it okay I'm not a fan fair enough but let's say that you're into it and it's like that's got to be a pretty hard conversation to have with the average girl of like hey I want you to put a strap-on on and go to town with me what do you think
00:27:32Adam22because it would be so complicated to bring that into your personal life and a lot of like people's fetishes it's just you don't really control that if you're turned on by seeing some some Pagan stuff I'm not I'm not into it but like you know that might be a little
00:27:44Christycomplicated to bring that into your personal life I dated a guy for like two years I didn't know he had a foot fetish at all he never made it like weird to me like that at all this was way
00:27:55Christyimportantly fans and stuff and um yeah I only found it from his search history how'd that make you feel it made me feel better because he didn't put me in a weird situation and nobody was a
00:28:06Isabella DeLucaweirdo why does that make him a weirdo feels really good you should try it I have done footsteps I think Jerusalem's Point too like and when he's saying like porn is so detrimental like this is what he's
00:28:18Isabella DeLucatalking about because people get so Progressive and it goes so fast that people get so acclimated to like their dopamine kind of like what makes them get off that they need more and more and more and it just funnels like a deeper
00:28:30Isabella DeLucaporn addiction nobody's a virgin starting off doing like weird kinky stuff or doing having like a foot fetish it's not really like normal and so I think that's mostly what he's talking about and saying that's why it's just detrimental people should just stay away
00:28:42Christyfrom it I completely completely understand like I'm super Conservative Republican whatever like I don't I'm not saying yeah I'm a huge Patriot grab her by the
00:28:55Christyall day every day I don't know why anything is wrong with that the girl should get off first like he's being very respectful by saying that
00:29:08Christydo you consider yourself conservative or traditional yeah yeah Trump 2024 huge Republican I mean that's your politics well I don't think you do you do of correct yeah but it was all with my
00:29:19Christyboyfriend we we just broke up but he was the only one ever on a hit I don't think for me it was like a reality TV show that's like just stuff that you can't
00:29:29Christyput on actual TV but if people want to pay me to see my dating life of what I'm already doing and then I can just live like on vacation every day all day with
00:29:41Brian Atlasmy own boyfriend like why would I not do that I'll let you guys come in really quick let me just I mean can you really consider yourself traditional without having a judgment about what you're doing but can you really consider yourself traditional if you're I do
00:29:53Christyengaged in sex work well traditionalism is not so much more of a like it's not my fault it's just not we're all supposed to be naked in caves
00:30:04Isabella DeLucaI mean traditional is not so much like a political belief in the cave just curious no because maybe the apples find the Taliban fighters I know people who are Republican that
00:30:17Isabella DeLucaare not traditional traditionalism is more rooted in like a Biblical ideology and it comes from more of a morality standpoint so like what I consider someone doing only fans traditional no
00:30:28Christynot at all I understand that but I am very traditional very conservative Republican huge Patron she is well you know again you're a republican but yeah
00:30:39Christyyeah but it doesn't mean I don't want kids actually yeah um well I'm just doing it with one person I
00:30:51Christywas just doing with one person it's just my boyfriend it's like reality TV shows I don't really believe that the way Society like first of all who says societal Norms are
00:31:02Christycorrect I think that Society is built up so horribly like we're supposed to be in our Roots connected to Nature and everyone just kind of like living in this way that we never were supposed to
00:31:14Christybe intended to live like we're supposed to be like naked living off the land connecting to the universe I don't think I'm doing anything wrong I'm not a bunch of other guys it was just me and my boyfriend and what's more traditional
00:31:26Christythan the oldest profession in the world exactly that's what we're here to do we're here to reproduce right like we're like if you're traditional you're pro-life so like we're here to reproduce we're here to have sex we're here to live off the land but you're not having
00:31:39Isabella DeLucasex to just have children you're having sex to create content I'm having sex good for your only time [Music]
00:31:50Lila RoseI have a question so I was looking up some research on pornography and the average age of entry for people who use porn not even addictively necessarily
00:32:00Lila Rosebut kind of regular use at least is 13 years old so that's typically when you know usually a young boy but sometimes young girls will fall into it or earlier
00:32:10Lila Roseand that's just the stat and you know in Utah as an example they banned porn for underage kids you had to get age verified and the biggest porn company in the world pulled out of Utah and said we're not even going to do business
00:32:23Lila Rosethere anymore because so many of their clients were underage and they didn't want to have to deal with that so I mean knowing that there are so many young eyes on the internet you know back to the kids because I know you said well you know the kids is one one way you can
00:32:36Christybring the conversation but there are so many young children on the internet adds up to the parents the parents shouldn't be giving the kids iPads I hate when I go out and I see parents and kids out to
00:32:46Christydinner and the kids are on iPads and their phones and stuff like I will I would never let my kids have it your iPhone but you're creating pornography and you're saying I don't actually well
00:32:58ChristyI think though is I have a reality TV show with my boy for another time now X if you want to pay to see it you pay to see it I don't care but it's pornography right
00:33:10Lena The PlugI mean it's the same like we have rated R movies we make content that kids aren't supposed to see all the time are we not supposed to make it because they're accessing it like there should be things put in place so that they don't access it and like you I mean if you don't want your kid to go on the
00:33:23Lena The Pluginternet and by themselves in their bedroom like don't give them access to the tools that let them see those things I don't plan on giving my kid a phone until they're like 16 years old exactly you know so like that's not online how old are you when you first saw porn when
00:33:35Adam22I was 11 years old me and my friends found a stack of nudie magazines in a dumpster somehow and we you know took a plastic bin out into the woods and we preserved them in the woods because we
00:33:47Adam22couldn't keep them at our houses because we're so young and and you know I don't think that there's any army in the world that could have taken these magazines away from us so kids are going to say I took it away from us it was the rain and because it rained and it caused a lot of
00:34:01Adam22water damage and the pages were sticking together but I say all that to say that even though obviously I feel like there probably should be rules in place so that an 11 year old can't see porn it's difficult for them to see it it also
00:34:13Adam22just seems kind of like almost pointless to even try because you know that this is like the most fundamental base thing that a kid is going to search out right so I was illegal to make porn in general no I I mean I think also like as much
00:34:25Isabella DeLucaanti-porn as I am and as much as I would love to see it like completely banned obviously that's not going to happen but I think that there should be somewhat of a middle ground between people who are super anti-porn and people who are pro-porn but at least there should be
00:34:35Isabella DeLucasome sort of age restriction as she said the average age of introduction to pornography I think it's actually but it's not supposed to be and the average age of the child gets a parent the average age that a child gets a smartphone now is about 10 years old
00:34:48Christyso yeah at some point they're going to be introduced to pornography but a lot of these porn websites why are the parents giving 10 years olds yeah I don't think I am I think parents are
00:34:59Lila Rosethe parent better I think and you're 10 year old my point is more so if you're a three-year-olds an iPad am I putting something out there in the world that you think is so harmful why would you
00:35:11Christykeep putting it out I I don't think what I'm doing is harmful because I it you have to be 18 to see what I'm doing okay what happens is that behind closed
00:35:22Isabella DeLucadoors is always going to happen Okay Isabella finish your thought then we're gonna move it's not my fault but this kid will find a way to do things this goes back to the age of arcade for age verification thing that I was
00:35:35Isabella DeLucatalking about that Lila was talking about is these like they you go on the website and they ask you if you're 18 you click yes there's no like genuine like there's no actual age verification that like that's like any child can go on and
00:35:48Isabella DeLucaaccess pornography so you're saying parents shouldn't give their child screens to be able to yeah
00:35:56Christypornography on your end to be able to children should be outside playing they shouldn't be on iPads they shouldn't be playing video games they shouldn't be on
00:36:05Brenna/MadisoniPhones Etc to add what she's it's a very counteractive anything nowadays is so easily accessible whether you give your child a phone or not their friends
00:36:15Christyare gonna have phones around but why is the solution not really does not really up to us maybe you need to ask like the owner of only fans to do a better
00:36:26Lila Roseverification the owner of PornHub already got pretty good verification right they have would you guys like start a campaign to demand that only fans and PornHub does that since you are
00:36:38Lila Roseyeah I'm fine with that I don't I don't think kids should be watching porn I would you work for like for example Utah's law that says that there needs to
00:36:47Lila Rosebe real age verification and so Pornhub Pornhub left yeah would you advocate for that federally yeah like I don't think little kids should be watching certain things but
00:37:00Christyalso at the same time people are gonna watch what they're gonna watch people are gonna pay for what they're gonna pay for but if it's not me it's gonna be someone else so I'm gonna make my money no offense but if
00:37:10Christyyou could make money but I'm super would you would you I I've been Pilates instructor I have two different real estate licenses I've been the general manager of my Pilates
00:37:21ChristyStudio I've been a whole bunch of things I have multiple different degrees this I live life like I'm on vacation every single day I make more money than all my friends do and all I had to do was just
00:37:33Christyopen up to the world about who me and my boyfriend were and we're supposed to live off the land we're supposed to be in love girls are supposed to embrace their feminine manners supposed to embrace their masculinity I don't think
00:37:45RuslanI'm doing anything wrong Christy if you could do something else and make the same amount of money would you no because I'd have to spend a lot more time doing it okay if you could do something else and not spend more time
00:37:57Ruslanwhat would it be what would it be if you could do this podcast okay if your podcast blew up and replaced your only fans Revenue I would I would continue doing both because I'll double the revenue
00:38:14Lila Rosebut on the one hand you're saying it creates a lot of harm and you don't want this for kids and you kind of know whatever I don't think it's controversial at all no I'm not seeing a lot of kids access
00:38:26Christyit I'm single um they do parents need to parent better parents are also sending children to public schools in liberal states and they're pushing transgender but do you think it's fair all down
00:38:39Christythere there are literally there are this is what I care about in a lot of elementary schools there are books in the library all right we're gonna We're not gonna
00:38:52Lila Rosetalk about it okay that's way worse that's way worse I just have one question do you think it's fair to demand the standard of parents when we're creating this very pornified
00:39:03Lila RoseSociety with time I think yeah to demand that parents can somehow magically insulate their children from the extreme pornification it's accelerating in our
00:39:12Christysociety only responsibility parents have is to parent their children protect their children
00:39:22Christycan't get a get air again an Apple phone get a computer they cannot pay for those things themselves unless their parents are providing it but should we parents yes I think
00:39:34Lila Roseparents need to take care of that Disability should we take responsibility to help families and parents at large do better for their kids by not adding to the toxicity
00:39:45Christymy fans aren't kids my fans I don't know that because I know who they are because I I'm in there every day talking to you have you seen their IDs I know who they are they're on
00:39:57Christya happy married men that are afraid to get divorced because they made a commitment and they're scared and they've they don't know what to do
00:40:07Lila Roseit but do you think it's yeah do you think it's healthy for those men to be I do not situation cheating
00:40:16ChristyI don't then why but it's not benefiting financially they should not have entered into that commitment in the first place that is a bigger issue way above me I
00:40:28Christyunderstand and it's not going to stop with me but let me marriage is a big thing about Isabella why would you commit to a man or a woman if you weren't fully committed I I agree
00:40:40Lila Rosewith that but why would we I think we each have a personal responsibility to do good right and so if it's not her if it's hurting kids if it's hurting couples that are on the Rocks if it's hurting addicts if it's hurting these
00:40:53Christydifferent people why would we continue to be a part of it no but it's not hurting them it's them choosing everyone has choices in life of course but every single person can choose are we helping or hurting those people that have
00:41:05Christychildren they're gonna do it no matter what if I'm in it if they're in it they're gonna do it no matter what it sounds like what a drug dealer could say you know they're going to do drugs no matter what everyone's gonna do drugs no matter what whether it's legal or not
00:41:17Isabella DeLucaeveryone's gonna do all of those things but do you think so hold on hold on I just want to finish this thought um you know you say that you're more so traditional and I know you like talked a little bit earlier about parent should
00:41:29Isabella DeLucaparent better but I guess the same thing could maybe someone could say the same thing about your parents in the industry that you are in and you know to put the blame on the parents for for giving their child access to screens even though some of them may not even be accessing it through their own screens
00:41:42Isabella DeLucait could be done through a library it could be done through their friend's phone it could be done anywhere so to put the blame on the parents but then have zero accountability on your part be like oh well parents need to parent better but I'm going to continue to fuel
00:41:53Christyout pornography as much as I want because first of all love is unconditional my dad's my business manager your dad manages he's not my only dance manager he's my business
00:42:05Christymanager looks over all my contracts but second of all there are way way way worse things that I can't talk about because
00:42:13Christythese are not you in school libraries way worse things in school libraries I said you can't I can't imagine you don't want me to talk about the books
00:42:26Ruslanand school libraries well that's online I don't know how we're getting to this yeah have you made your point let me just make my point Adam said he was exposed to porn at 11. I was exposed to point at six we just agreed that kids
00:42:37Ruslanshouldn't consume my thoughts it's like saying I know kids are overdosing from Fentanyl but they're going to consume fentanyl anyway might as well provide all we can and I understand what you're doing is
00:42:49Ruslandifferent but it does seem like you're conflating ideologies you're talking about conservative values we're preserving something between a man and a woman in the privacy of their home and you're saying well we should just screw in a cave there's a very contradictory
00:43:01Isabella DeLucaviews like how can you say that like you have a traditional view of marriage but then say you're you're only fans is filled with married unhappy men you don't think I've gotten married that's why I'm 33 and not married because this is to get
00:43:15Isabella DeLucavery serious but this is the problem because it's so easy for people to consume and to go off in another Direction instead of fixing their marriages it's exploitative
00:43:31Christyso our personal trainers when I was a bartender they would use me as a therapist when I was a personal trainer they would use me as a therapist it's not my problem that they're not going to
00:43:42Christytherapy there's a difference there's a difference as a Pilates instructor I'm enabling someone telling me about problems there's a difference
00:43:54Isabella DeLucaall those other things there's a difference between therapy and pornography there's a difference between therapy and talking to somebody about I'm having these issues in my marriage how do I fix them and going off and cheating on your wife behind her back there's a huge difference you put the
00:44:07Isabella DeLucablame on everybody else the parent should parent better they should pick better Partners when in reality you have a big part of that blame and that these men are going to you okay so uh I want to just bring it back
00:44:19Brian Atlasto you guys really quick when it comes to the scene that uh you did with Jason was this a one time thing for you guys are you guys looking to do something again or still communicate about how this might
00:44:31Adam22play out in the future we're definitely doing more stuff with other guys as well as other girls but we're moving a little bit slow just because the whole experience the media cycle was so insane but the next thing is probably gonna be
00:44:42Brian AtlasAdam the other guy and me together which I'm really excited about yeah okay yeah can I actually could I recommend a few guys for your consideration oh yes close some names out there for sure okay cool
00:44:54Brian Atlasnick uh if you can pull up the first one it's the Instagrams by the way Nick you gotta you gotta screen the super chats you can't be pulling that yeah no I like the anti-semitic one that was yeah that
00:45:07Brian Atlaswas yeah disavow the Super Chat the ADL is gonna make another or not sorry excuse me no no no it was the uh Media Matters Media
00:45:19Brian AtlasMatters they got me a couple times too recently yeah so we we do not disavow the Super Chat we're not Nick didn't know not to pull it up I'm sure
00:45:29Brian AtlasMedia Matters is going be on it it's the uh Instagram yeah it's not no no not the video it's the Instagram profiles
00:45:47Brian Atlasthe Instagram not the video it's the it's the one right after the uh
00:45:56Brian Atlasit's the dudes it's the guys
00:46:05Adam22uh so I would like to this is a good dear friend of mine his name's Zach uh can you scroll down because didn't I see this guy in the uh the documentary about uh the the Johnny
00:46:18Brian AtlasDepp trial oh yeah how big his penis is I think it's huge then I think it's giant perfect um his name's Zach he's a very popular
00:46:30Adam22twitch streamer goes by Osmond gold um he looks tall he can scroll up to the top I don't think he's got is he you don't think so you can tell he probably has bad genetics to be totally honest I don't know oh wow okay I mean has he
00:46:42Adam22ever excelled in any like sporting events or anything have you he's a Pro Gamer World of Warcraft like he's really good do you think oh well I mean just to be serious about yeah we're really only technically interested in working with
00:46:54Adam22adult professionals because you'd be surprised at how difficult uh getting and maintaining an erection on camera really is especially for people who haven't been uh you know through the ringer of kind of learning how to do
00:47:06Adam22this so I mean I think he's good I would love to see what he's got to offer like could you at least consider it I'm trying to well if he wants to DM me his his wiener then I could definitely give him some sort of review sure a lot of my
00:47:19Adam22friends seem to have a hard time wrapping their head around the fact that I need to be be able to have like an objective opinion about a man's penis that's just part of the job I need to be able to say yeah he has a great one his
00:47:29Adam22his sucks his is not a factor Etc you have like veto on not even necessarily for her but because you know we film these sort of like orgies on camera and stuff we do like a live stream we're actually doing one on
00:47:42Adam22Thursday uh on the plug talk YouTube it's basically like this but then there's another room with an only fans stream with like an orgy going on so it would basically be like this but some of the people could leave and go hook up in the other room
00:47:54Adam22um and so in that case you know I need to be able to like look at a guy and say he's got a great dick and a lot of people just have a hard time wrapping their head around the fact that I could
00:48:04Adam22be a heterosexual male with really a perfect record of heterosexuality
00:48:20ChristyI don't know if you guys know Felix xqc he might be hot debatably I love blondes with long hair but he looks a little liberal wait till you hear him talk wait till you see the way it sits you
00:48:32Christyknow it's like everything about him is so I like blondes with like long hair pastors he's a dear friend of mine do you think he could be considered from a cloud perspective yes it would sell really well I think it's good to
00:48:45Brian Atlasget your friends into this business what's that you think it's good to get your friends into that business well I they asked they asked me I'm just doing them a favor to kind of you know is it a favor
00:48:56Lila Roseis it a favorite who did they vote for that I actually I think it would be a burden is it a spiral a bad spiral it's hard to say you know it's because you're a Republican or a Democrat
00:49:07Brian AtlasI'm not sure because if he's a republican okay he's a reaction streamer last one last one and then for the consideration
00:49:19Brian Atlasuh his this is frederique um scroll all the way down he's a Chad World of Warcraft gamer he's a chat yeah like uh he's an actual Chad like house
00:49:35Brian Atlasuh that's him with thunder Fury I don't know if that has a what is thunder fury it's a sword of Warcraft legendary sword
00:49:47Brian Atlasuh very few people you know that you gotta you gotta go into molten core you got to get the drops from uh it's Baron gedden and magmadar how much time do you still spend playing that I don't play it anymore I used to though it seems like
00:50:00ChristyI'm too busy it just seems so addictive I don't think masculine men play videos
00:50:07ChristyI really don't I really if you play video games that's a red flag yeah and not in the red pill way in like the liberal and blue pill yeah uh Isabella
00:50:19Christysorry if you're just gonna move past us I think if men play video games it's like the it's such a chance
00:50:32Brennathey put on their headphones and they're like talking to 12 year olds and like that actually here's the question is it a turn off of a guy watches a lot of movies
00:50:54Christywith your girl but I also don't love the fact of watching TV and movies in general when you could be being active doing something on a nice date together but watching movies
00:51:06Adam22completely different yeah they're both like you're living in an altar you're sitting on the couch you've got a big black screen in front of you there's something playing on it in one you're just observing and one you're controlling
00:51:17Adam22I do agree I do agree there's a version of playing video games that's basically like me sinking into my own depression and playing Fall Guys for eight hours yes that is bad but also way worse than porn though I've had Transcendent
00:51:30Adam22experiences you ever played Final Fantasy 7 you're gonna play Zelda no it'll change your goddamn life better than any stars
00:51:39Isabella DeLucathat's like what I asked guys I say do you play video games maybe they just have a little bit skill you think video games is worse than porn post Malone plays video games on his off days he's way more successful than anybody in
00:51:52Christythis room one thing one thing video games don't have an age requirement
00:52:04Christyhave an age requirement and video games don't and I don't think anyone should be playing videos games because they're both forms there's
00:52:15Brian Atlasporn in video games nowadays sure yeah okay so hold on just just to be clear so for you too if a guy plays video games that's a big deal breaker
00:52:26Brian Atlasabsolutely I want to tell you this the way that you feel about men who play video games is the way that men feel about the fact that you guys do only fans
00:52:41Christyex-boyfriend and like why was my ex-boyfriend fine with it why is every guy talking new Vine with that like
00:52:50Christyhe's not my ex because of like political or only van reasons he's my ex because I knew that my intuition was saying he wasn't the one he wanted
00:53:03Lila Rose92 percent of relationships that are polyamorous he's trying to pay me for now 92. I mean what does that say how he
00:53:13Christyviews you I would never accept a payment for a but you're trying to say oh he's your ex because you do only dance he's not my ex because they do only Advance he's my ex because I don't want him in my life over and over
00:53:25Ruslanthey're attracting negative men that continually naturally so you naturally Attractive people
00:53:35Isabella DeLucakind of like what you do I think yeah there's maybe like a degeneracy factor I only dance when I met him no but that's not what I'm saying I'm saying that the men who are attracted to you want to be with you are not going to
00:53:47Isabella DeLucareally be like a high value I was on million dollars I don't believe yeah I mean you could be on whatever show you want but you're not like hey there stop interrupting her let her speak go ahead
00:53:58Christysorry I don't even remember my thoughts I mean I think you finished it let's move on I don't think I like actually interrupted that much we have one chat here we have you said why why am I I
00:54:09Brian Atlasthink you're a little quiet we have big black clock here uh oh look it's Lena and her 22. do you have a response very funny very tricky you switched it up out of
00:54:21Brian Atlasthe plug all right there we go there we go um so I can't believe you just made a hundred dollars that was it that was it Isabella you had a maybe this was a
00:54:34Isabella DeLucawhile ago you had an incident with a trump flag were you on a date when that happened no it was not on a date it's a long time ago that was like I was working with a company and there
00:54:47Isabella DeLucawas a women's March the same day that there was uh Amy Coney Barrett confirmation and so they kind of that didn't go well so you got like jumped or something yeah
00:54:57Isabella DeLucaI had a trump flag yeah and so I was assaulted by the women from the women's world was it recorded no no no did they catch him uh I don't think so I don't
00:55:10Adam22think so no okay that's why you should always be live streaming because you could have gone viral as a hill if that was on tape huge
00:55:19Brian Atlasum so something that's kind of recently uh been making the rounds and Adam you've actually commented on this I think on your Tick Tock and Twitter uh Logan Paul
00:55:29Brian Atlasis dating a woman named Nina Agdal and Logan Paul is an upcoming fight with uh Dylan danis and Dylan danis has kind of
00:55:39Brian AtlasRuthless ruthlessly uh on Twitter been essentially just posting photos of Logan Paul's fiancee uh with with other men or in
00:55:50Brian Atlassome of them seem rather platonic some of them seem you know romantic romantic yeah um and then there's some videos too of her saying some I suppose sexual sexual things
00:56:03Brian Atlasum let's just really quick just to give people context Nick can you pull up uh can you pull up just the Instagrams really quick starting with Logan I'm sure most people know Logan Logan Paul he's uh hot as
00:56:17Christydisavow um can you pull it up he's super hot but wikipedias wikipedias he says we're living in The Matrix uh so we have uh
00:56:30Brian AtlasLogan Paul is saying we live in The Matrix I think you're thinking of Andrew Tate okay no because he's not blind he may have said it as well okay uh so Logan Paul
00:56:40Brian Atlasfamous influencer Etc et cetera he's 28 next
00:56:46Brian Atlasuh Nina Agdal uh 31 so she is what three years his uh senior and she's like a model and then Dylan
00:56:57Brian Atlasdanis no photo of him there but uh he's a like Jiu Jitsu guy they have a boxing match coming up here very soon in the UK can you pull up his uh Twitter we're gonna just react to a couple of uh of
00:57:08Brian Atlashis I hope it it might be I don't know if he's got any let's scroll down just so many it's a lot oh my God by the way he was the first person to DM me when that that video with Jason came out yeah it
00:57:21Adam22was the first one in my idea and he tried to use it we'll go back to it we're both Armenian thing as a way to get something I guess yeah wait he dm'd you yeah just to say hi or well to point out that they're both Armenian yeah
00:57:33Lena The PlugArmenian yeah but it's like that was his entryway to try to talk to me he unsent it after we started talking but yeah are you gonna have you wanted to try to get on the Pod or oh that's a good idea I haven't I've never tried to
00:57:45Lena The Plugget him on the Pod but I I sure would yeah okay so you just dm'd you'd like to say there's guys will DM all sorts of weird things to try to shoot their shots oh he was I believe that was the entryway to shooting his shot yeah but I
00:57:57Brian Atlasmean he knows I assume he knows that you're married so yeah I'm sure he doesn't care are these Jiu Jitsu guys they don't care right okay I don't know all right um let's pull it back up
00:58:07Brian Atlasuh scroll down just keep scrolling uh let's see this is from all the craziest today but uh so he's posting a bunch of photos
00:58:20Brian Atlasthat's kale sunin Nina Agdal which is Logan's fiancee keep scrolling down some of these are clearly some of these are photoshopped I think that one there's a