She SLASHED His Tires But HOOKED UP After?! | Dating Talk #110

Date: 2023-10-18

Duration: 5h 42m

Guests

Brian Atlas

EEllie (DT110)>

SSophie (DT110)>

JJulia (DT110)>

SSasha (DT110)>

JJessica (DT110)>

PPortia (DT110)>

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00TTS Reader(audience)

SPEAKER_01Ryan (Rhino)(guest)

SPEAKER_02Sasha(guest)

SPEAKER_04Sophie(guest)

SPEAKER_05Jessica(guest)

SPEAKER_06Ellie(guest)

SPEAKER_07Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_11Julia(guest)

SPEAKER_12Portia(guest)

SPEAKER_13Maia(guest)

SPEAKER_14Ana Godina(guest)

Key Moments

RelationshipEllie reveals her 3-year NC long-distance boyfriend did not visit or get her anything for her 21st birthday.

“He like for the past like month beforehand was like oh I am going to come visit... nothing”

QuoteTikTok reaction: woman lost all interest when boyfriend started crying after opening up about vulnerability. Brian and Ryan discuss reality vs stated desire for male vulnerability.

“I wanted this man to be vulnerable with me for so long he finally called me yesterday and opened up but the second he started crying I lost all interest in him”

Key MomentJulia reveals she was in a situationship with a meth addict who had her steal bikes and break into an unlocked stranger house in IV. Two weeks later she discovered it was her friend house.

“We go into the bathroom... we hear people in a bedroom... we start freaking out so we just run out... two weeks later it is the house”

Key MomentSasha reveals her previous boyfriend (11-year age gap) was engaging in emotional cheating via Snapchat messages to a girl younger than Sasha.

“It was emotional cheating it was saying about how like you know maybe we could have worked I miss you I do not know if I am happy”

Key MomentSasha reveals she slashed 3 tires on her cheating boyfriend truck, then both slashed the 4th together so he could file an insurance claim -- the title story.

“I slashed his tires on his new truck... we both walked outside and finished off the job so that he could follow the insurance claim”

Key MomentAna reveals she lost her virginity at age 25 with the person she thought she would marry, surprising given her OnlyFans and nightlife image.

“I lost my virginity at 25 with the person who I thought I was going to end up with”

ControversyBrian confronts Portia after her three friends came to his studio building and buzzed all tenants on the call box looking for her during the live show.

“Your friends came to our studio... they called everybody all the residents here on the call box wondering about you... your friends are really immature”

OtherPortia apologizes at end of show for the disruption caused by her friends showing up at the studio.

“I am really sorry about interrupting a podcast I feel really bad I am sorry”

Key MomentVoluntary body count disclosures: numbers 5, 5, 3, 9 shared around table (attribution unclear). Ryan Rhino claims 100+ jokingly.

“anybody here want to share body five five three um nine... Rhino 100 plus”

Topics Discussed

Guest Introductions

Each guest introduces name, age, and occupation. Guests: Ana (28, cocktail server/OF, Vegas), Ellie (21, SBCC poli sci, NC), Sophie (20, barista/tattoo artist), Julia (~21, barista/nanny), Sasha (27, bottle girl/photographer, married, from Brazil/Vegas), Jessica (19, student/Sacramento), Maia (21, CSUN), Portia (20, UCSB feminist studies, Guam), Ryan "Rhino" (26, YouTuber, LA).

Relationship Status Round

Each guest describes current relationship status. Key stories: Ellie's 3-yr long-distance on-and-off NC boyfriend who didn't visit for her 21st birthday. Sophie's ended open situationship. Julia's recently ended 2-yr on-off semi-open relationship. Sasha is married 3 yrs (husband had 3 brain surgeries). Jessica's situationship after being cheated on badly. Maia: single 2 yrs after 5-yr HS relationship. Portia: just ended talking stage. Ryan: single since early 2023.

Dating Apps and Hinge Profiles

Discussion of dating apps. Sophie's Hinge profile reviewed by chat. Guests discuss match volumes, motivations for using apps. Ellie met one sneaky link on Hinge.

Feminism Debate

Round-table on whether guests identify as feminists. Portia identifies as feminist (nuanced). Others mixed. Ryan and Brian critique feminism as women's advocacy rather than true equality, pointing to military conscription and custody law reform.

Going Out / Partying While in a Relationship

Debate on whether it's insecurity or reasonable concern for men to not want their girlfriends going out to clubs and bars. Both Vegas nightlife workers (Ana, Sasha) weigh in on cheating they witness. Discussion of alcohol, lowered inhibitions, and situational infidelity.

Marriage, Kids, and Relationship Goals

Round-the-table discussion on wanting marriage and kids, desired timelines. Sasha married 3 yrs. Others want marriage by late 20s or 30s. Taking husband's last name debated.

Traditional Roles / What Partners Expect from Each Other

Guests discuss expectations from a partner in a relationship. Ana and Sasha favor traditional roles (man provides/protects, woman cares for home and family). Ellie and Portia push back on financial expectations.

Male Vulnerability

Discussion triggered by TikTok clip of woman losing attraction after boyfriend opened up and cried. Debate on whether men should be emotionally vulnerable with partners, and how women actually react vs what they claim. TikTok reaction: "I wanted him to be vulnerable but the second he started crying I lost interest." Brian and Ryan share personal experiences where vulnerability led to relationship deterioration.

Men Losing Fights / Attraction and Male Strength

Discussion of a viral clip of a female MMA fighter's boyfriend getting knocked out in a professional fight. She lost attraction and broke up with him. Panel reacts. Discussion of whether women lose attraction when men lose fights or appear weak.

Political Views and Deal Breakers

Round-table: guests share political leanings (conservative, liberal, moderate, apolitical). Discussion of whether opposite political views are a deal-breaker when dating.

Julia's Meth-Addict Situationship

Julia describes a situationship with a man she later discovered was addicted to meth (thought it was just coke). He would spam-call her at 3-4am, have her steal and return bikes, and once led her to break into an unlocked IV house to hook up while residents were home. Two weeks later she accidentally discovered it was her friend's house.

Sasha's Tire Slashing Story

Sasha recounts discovering emotional cheating (Snapchat messages to younger ex) on her then-boyfriend (11-yr age gap). Drove to his place, slashed 3 of 4 tires on his new truck. Went inside, confronted him. They made up the same night. Then both went outside and slashed the 4th tire together so he could file an insurance claim for all 4.

Partner Type / Physical Preferences

Round-table on physical and personality type preferences. Sophie likes skater-boy aesthetic. Ellie prefers 6' minimum. Sasha: dad bods okay, tattoos a turn-on, gravitates toward white men. Jessica: blonde hair, blue eyes, ~6'4" (wants to pass on genes to kids). Portia: no race preference, personality-focused.

Portia's Friends Showing Up at the Studio

Three of Portia's friends came to Brian's studio building and buzzed all residents on the call box trying to locate her. Brian learns from property manager Nick. Becomes frustrated that strangers are harassing tenants and threatening his tenancy. Portia apologizes; Brian remains annoyed. Portia apologizes again at end of show.

Feminism and Bodily Autonomy / Military Conscription

Brian argues male bodily autonomy concerns (military conscription, circumcision) are stronger than the abortion debate talking point. Portia (feminist studies) pushes back against direct comparison. Extended debate on reproductive rights, Ukraine war, and feminist organizational hypocrisy on equality.

Body Count Discussion

Final segment. Round-table on whether body count matters. Ana and Sasha say women's body count is more important than men's. Sophie indifferent. Ellie disagrees. Voluntary sharing: some guests volunteer numbers (5, 5, 3, 9 — speaker attribution unclear due to diarization). Ryan jokes about 100+.

Transcript

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Brian Atlasuh is this a home [Laughter] invasion here Telles guys while

Ana Godinawe're um I don't know if I have a type physically necessarily um but like someone in shape takes care of himself uh I like men who

Ana Godinaare like ambitious generous uh thoughtful yeah that's kind of my type um yeah I think mine is just

Juliasomeone that respects me and um is a nice guy yeah I just I don't really care like I don't have

Julialike yeah you don't care about looks um I do I I mean I don't have like a race preference or anything though um if you if I think

Sashayou're attractive yeah um I don't know I more about personality I'll not saying I'll

Sashadate anybody but if you make me happy and you make me comfortable yes um I feel like I've gravitated towards more white men

Sashathat have I guess tattoos are turn on for me um I do like a dad bod I like some Pudge Pudge little bit of a belly um but no just be nice be a decent human

Jessicaand yeah it's about it my type is definitely like honestly like someone that kind of looks like me like I like blonde hair blueeyed like 64

Jessicais like the perfect Hep um and yeah obviously something that's like respectful but I can do a brunette with blue eyes but preferably blonde wow blue eyes it has to have blue it has to have

Jessicablue eyes you're thinking about your future children yes exactly and I want my kids to have blonde hair blue eyes and you want your kids to be D1 athletes so your

Jessicaman has to be tall exactly exactly that's that's right you know me okay oh man Nick did you overhear

Brian Atlasthat I missed it what your name's ratia right yeah you have the most obnoxious

Brian Atlasfriends your your friends came to our studio because three of them called everybody

Brian Atlasall the residents here on the call box wondering about you did you not tell like no they know so why are they coming and harassing the other tenants at my

Brian Atlasbuilding I I have no CL did you you you told them but you provided them with the address they have my location they're but so why are they here I I don't know

Brian AtlasI don't have my phone with me I'm I mean I'm sorry I just your friends are I'm going to have to drop the arser are

Brian Atlasthat's just so weird anyways that's not necessary it kind of is when your friends are harassing coming to the building and I have somebody knocking on my door saying yo

Portiathere's three girls outside and but I I know I know it's not your fault but but you don't have to use the arser on them it's kind of arler it's a little AR it's like a miscommunication right that

Brian Atlaswhat's the I have no CL you're literally live on a on a podcast what is their concern I I have no clue but I'm just saying like I don't know can you do you have your phone on you can see my phone

Brian Atlasin my purse like I they knew where I was it's like I don't know it's just really peculiar behavior for them to be literally on the call box asking every

Brian Atlassingle tenant is per like that's so weird yeah I I don't I don't know like you're an adult you

Brian Atlascommunicated to them that you would okay I don't know um but I you know my property manager Nick could you hit the lights back there yeah it's like interrupting the podcast it's just your

Brian Atlasfriends are really immature that's ridiculous um so sorry I have no clue what happened I don't

Brian Atlasknow I don't really have anything to say I mean it's it's not you that's doing it it's your friends it's just like when you're it's so weird it's so

Ana Godinaweird um I don't even know I've never had that I like maybe they were concerned with where she's at but yeah you're like live streaming onally like we' abducted they know here

Brian Atlasyeah being kid I don't know but they think about it I don't know no with my property like these her friends are literally harassing residents wondering where she's at so I don't know if you just didn't communicate to them that you

Portiabe that you're an adult and you would be gone for a couple of hours where no they know where I am they have my location like I I just I don't know I don't know

Brian Atlaswhat to say did you instruct them to like to come get me to like come and no no of course not I don't know what person in their right mind when

Brian Atlasokay whatever I sorry it's just frustrating guys because um whatever um I don't know where were we what were we talking about

Ana GodinaI think we're on go types already who we missing down here down here these

Maiatwo anyways um I guess I tend to go for taller guys like 61 and above and I do like dark darker features and darker

Brian Atlasskinned men um and I do like tattoos so the just really quick the reason why I'm upset about it you might not think it's a big deal like we are tenants here and like

Brian Atlasthat kind of people like strangers showing up to our building blowing up every single tenant in the building wondering where you are puts us at risk with our landlord and

Brian Atlaspotentially getting evicted no that's valid I so I don't know why your friends are making a huge scene yeah yeah no it's valid it just there's nothing really I can do I know I know I you're not really to blame it's your

Brian Atlasfriends but it's just like really weird um and puts us in a bad position so that's why I'm kind of like

Brian Atlasfrustrated about it um so anyways okay let's move on um let's see I I'm trying to remember where I was here is that situation handled they I don't I should

Ana Godinayou text them like should you grab your phone and just like yo what's up what's going on an emergency maybe it's maybe you should text them I don't know what she's good she's literally sitting

Portiaat the table we're having a conversation like what the holy log on to the Live join the live the they knew I was going on the podcast like they know that like it was 4 minutes away from where like they know that it's like

Brian Atlasright where like near where I live like I don't I don't know do any of your friends are do they know your family at all my family yeah okay I mean I don't I

Brian Atlasdon't know what it could be it's just super weird do you need to go check your phone it's that shit's probably fine that shit's probably fine it's Pro I don't know what their deal is I I'd actually be curious to like go

Brian Atlasgo down there be like the your problem but they're still here I don't know door know or was that just someone no that was that was my property manager being like yo Brian there's some crazy girls out I

Brian Atlasdon't know if he said he didn't say crazy I'm being a little hyperbolic but he's like there's three girls who have called every single tenant using the call box in the building asking about

Brian Atlasyou I'm sorry I'm really sorry I'm really sorry maybe she's getting trolled bro this is some like liberal snow weird snowflake I don't know what the is up with that like oh my my

Brian Atlasfriend let me go check on her and harass everybody in a apartment complex I mean there could be something else going snowflake weirdos okay I'm not talking about you I'm talking about your

Ana Godinagoofy dork ass friends mother not you I'm talking about your you don't need someone to talk to you when some goes wrong because it really seems like it right now cuz you're like you're on one bro this is my

Brian Atlasbusiness though she's her friends are coming to my place of business with my I am a businessman you know I'm a businessman because you find me at my places of

Brian Atlasbusiness uh this guy needs someone to talk to I think are you not worried that they're still dialing people that's why I think I don't know Brian tripping maybe you got to property manager probably went down he's like yo she's

Brian Atlaschill like she's good pull up the live stream or whatever but uh bro what the that's some weird son you you got to get some new friends your friends are geek dorks what the that's not necessary it's pretty

Brian Atlasnecessary could be something it's pretty pretty pretty gra your phone like I feel like just stay here Nick her phone for her grab your phone like what the is the deal where's your purse like

Brian Atlaslet's get down to the bottom of this yeah problem the most obnoxious I'm sorry I'm sorry but there's bothersome irritating immature

Brian AtlasI have had to endure yeah sure the big reveal yeah we got what the going on now okay yeah tell tell us have they been texting you have they been blowing

Brian Atlasup your phone what's going on do you do you want to go get some

Brian Atlasboba you want to get some boba where are you time for our time for our 1 p.m.

Portiagirls late night you guys want to go to need to get THB did you find out what did they say yeah it's just some like just nothing it's fine no we got

Portiaknow you got to tell us what tell us what no it's just personal like it's just like no it's fine you need to go no it's fine it's fine it's just fine no no no tell you got to tell us come on I can't I can't no that's is tell us give

Portiaus a blank out the name some why it's not about like it's just it's just it was just my family it's fine it's fine your family doesn't watch on this podcast no no they don't no it's not

Portiaabout it's just something it's fine okay it's about it's about your family no it's fine do I have to like give yeah yeah yeah yeah they came in

Portiadisrupted I I mean it it was just something personal just something happened they just what important I don't have to I don't have to you but can you give us at least a little

Brian Atlascontext I I just said something personal with my like I just said with with your what but why do I have to like I'm sorry that this happened it would be fair it would be fair to provide an explanation

Brian Atlasso I can at least have some closure I'm very emotional right now I would appreciate some closure your reluctance to provide me with closure I feel is going to leave me

Brian Atlasin a very vulnerable state very vulnerable um is it give us a hint you don't have to tell us I don't I don't she probably doesn't want

Brian Atlasto tell us because she knows it's some like bogus unimportant and she knows her friends were being nosy annoying that's why she doesn't want to tell us what it actually is because you know your

Brian Atlasfriends are in the wrong that's why you don't want I didn't say that they weren't in the wrong did I okay did I can you answer this or not said Sor can you answer this or not the reason the reason they needed to contact you what

Portiawarranted my mom was trying to contact me as well I don't know what it is cuz I'm sitting in a podcast right now do you need to go call your mom no it's fine I'm just saying that how you how do your roommates know

Portiaabout my parents my your parents have contact with your housemates I've lived with my roommates for like two years this is my second I'm very like I'm close with them like I I I didn't say that what they did was

Portialike excused I said I'm sorry like I didn't mean to like that's like I didn't want that to happen I wouldn't want to like put anything about you in Jeopardy like but I don't think I need to like give out any information because I feel

Brian Atlaslike you don't want to give out just can you just give us a hint what it's about you said is you said your mom's trying to get in touch with you my mom I have like a Miss call from like my mom one miss

Brian Atlascall but that's my does your mom does your mom know you're on the podcast no my mom doesn't know I'm in the podcast But but so your okay so I think I understand your mom tried to call you you didn't pick up instead of your mom

Brian Atlasjust thinking oh maybe she's busy your mom goes into like oh my God she's been kidnapped let me I don't know your mom didn't text you at all you want me to like get you that information and give it to you right

Portianow can you just I'm just so F I'm just really curious we want to know is it is it Justified like that know if it's warranted doesn't matter even if it even if something happened that's not justified that's not justified to do

Portiathat they know where I am they know where my location is I please I need closure do you guys need closure about I kind of need closure you don't need to tell me you don't if there's a family emergency you don't need I already said that what they did is not justified I'm

Portianot agreeing with what they did but I don't need to give you something about my my personal life like I don't need no you I don't need to know I'm just curious I'm agreeing with you that what they did was not rational that's irrational to come banging and knocking

Portiaon everyone's door like that's not rational I'm agreeing with you but I don't need to give you this information that I don't even really even know what's going on are they still here do you know if they're still here can you at least find that out cu you can you

Brian Atlaskindly tell them to off [Laughter]

Brian Atlasplease no they're I love seeing this guy flip out on the show no I just look I'm I would like to be aware if there's some sort of situation um okay whatever um

Brian Atlaslet's see I'm trying to remember where we were did we get any chats while that whole was we had grid One Motorsports Frank Castle dude the girl has not contributed much and you're better off having her Gom bro look at

Brian Atlasher giggling like it's a joke to mess with your business that's just I mean yeah it's kind of true I think she's giggling cuz like I'm giggling she feels uncomfortable like

Portiauncomfortable I I said a weird situation Sor I said that like there's not much I can do I'm like I'm sorry I mean we've done like aund 10 of these shows and

Brian Atlaswe've never had someone com it's just yo abch thank you very much for the gifted 50 memberships man thank you so much for your patronage really means the world thank you man um

Brian Atlasokay so last thing here before we wrap up here very very soon so um I guess I could just okay you do you

Brian Atlassaving I can't believe I'm I saved this till the end you're feminist studies right so you're a [Laughter] feminist you you've unleashed the uh my wrath I guess not really I don't really

Brian Atlasit's fine whatever um so you're a feminist I would say so do you believe in the patriarchy Theory I thought we talked about this already we not really we didn't touch on it all that much what

Brian Atlasdo you think of men like in what in what sense like just in general you got to speak into the mic um like what do you think of

Brian Atlasmen they're they're fine I don't like like what do you want me to like no I'm just I mean some women are very anti-men or sorry not anti-men excuse me I meant to say some feminists are very anti-men

Brian AtlasI'm not saying all feminists are but there certainly is a uh among a lot of feminists I would say there's a a uh non-negligible portion who I would consider and most people would consider

Portiaand some are even self admitt uh misandrists manters so I'm just curious uh what your general view anti-men like hate men but do you do you

Portiabelieve in the patriarchy I think that there are some like patriarchal like systems that affect both men and women

Portiaokay like I'm not like all like only women are oppressed only like I don't okay I think I see both sides okay gotcha

Portiaum so do do you think women are oppressed I wouldn't use the word oppressed but I think there's certain issues that women face and there's different issues that men face in

Brian Atlasdifferent senses okay I can agree to that um do you think men have or do you think women have greater issues than men have as a totality greater issues yeah Nick

Portiacan you close the doors a little bit it's getting a little chilly no I don't think I think that once you start to comp ha issues that's when it kind of it

Brian Atlasit puts one sex as a lower value than the next like but isn't isn't that the isn't that the Genesis of feminism women

Portiahave it worse than men do don't have that's definitely how some people view it but I like when I say I'm a feminist I kind of said said this before like I see it as

Portialike like like combating stereotypes that both men men and women face to have like a better Society that's that's what

PortiaI said okay like I'm not like only women have it hard only women deal with this like that's how I see it okay what I mean do you think historically women

Brian Atlaswere oppressed and men were the women were the oppressed and men were the oppressors yeah that's a narrative I frequently hear I would say

Portiathat over time Dynamic is different now but I think that women have

Portiadefinitely been oppressed before like we see that in like different like we we we've seen that like throughout history in different ways like in like basic senses right like voting rights and like

Portiaright to B autonomy things like that right okay but um men were definitely oppressed in history as well but it's

Portiajust different because the oppressors were also in the same system as men like men were always valued higher were they

PortiaI would say so men were valued higher I think that the the system that oppresses men were built by

Portiamen wait the what like the SI like the oppression that men face like such as like like like having to go to the

Portiamilitary things like that they're all set up by men like most of like like history has been set up by

Portiamen okay so I think there's so do you think two ways that you can see it do you think if women were in charge there wouldn't be war no I I don't think so that that's a

Brian Atlashard thing just to kind of like assume no you if you no you don't think if women were in charge are you saying so you're saying if I think war is

Portiainevitable it's it's gonna happen leadership and position like we can't we can't sit here and be like if women rule the world then this and this and this cuz that's never happen be fair to say then that if women were in charge

Portiathere would still be a military because you said well men were in charge so they set up military no no no not military but like having to like serve in the military not the military

Brian Atlasitself you don't think that there would be cons are you talking about forced uh conscription is that what you're talking about like the fact that men have to serve draft like yeah

Portiaso you're thinking of no I was just bringing that up as an example okay sure yeah okay like I think it's hard to to sit here and be like well if if the whole

Portiahistory was changed if women were in power if this like that's we can't sit there and have that conversation because that's not really we don't we don't know what that would look like we don't we don't we can't sit here and be like if

Portiathere were all women leaders no war would occur you know do you think there would be less war I I I don't think I can say that I don't even think I can speak on that

Portiathat's like okay that that's a very broad you know what I mean like like what would you say to that like that's that's a really broad statement I mean

Brian Atlasit's hard again it's hard to say but we do have some evidence to monarchies uh and specifically I I mean there there's been different monarchies

Brian Atlasthroughout history but we actually do have some evidence to suggest that queens were more likely to wage war than Kings like like like Great

EllieBritain well everyone loves Anarchy what's that everyone loves Anarchy even women men wait Anar no monarchy yeah I know Anarchy in like the whole system no monarchy yeah know they in monarchy no

Ellieyou were saying Anarchy though yeah I know I'm saying like women and like men despite War whatever regardless everyone wants either to be on top or Anarchy even in a monarchy you know what do you see not

Brian Atlasreally never mind then but but there they have done like analysis of uh Wars that have been waged where there was a either a king or a queen and they did

Brian Atlasfind that actually queens were more likely not by a huge margin but were more likely wage war than kings

Portiawere but I don't think you were even really making the I mean you seem kind of vague on one or the other but I don't think I'm vague I'm just I don't think I'm just like anti-men like women should

Portiaroll rule the world like I don't think I just think I'm not like that you know what I mean okay like I think I'm just not really like pushing for that type of argument to happen like I

Portiathink like history H like the we can't really sit here and have like a discussion of like women ruling the world and like what would happen do you know what I

Brian Atlasmean well no I mean I not really because maybe we should try it and see how see how it goes but I mean we can it's just like a hypothetical question like that

Brian Atlaswould like be so multi-layered like what would that look like what would that be what would like well one of the common discourses in feminist rhetoric is this

Brian Atlasidea of male privilege that sort of ties into patriarchy Theory femin just cend in the feminism so I'm like do you believe in male privilege and I'd like to go around the table if you guys

Brian Atlasbelieve in this concept of male privilege let's start with you and then we'll go around me go

Brian Atlasahead um yeah I do okay male privilege as in like what sense like they there I mean there's you've probably heard the term male sure

JessicaI guess yeah no I I feel like things are hard for everyone that's fair I don't really have a take on It come on you have a take but okay go

Unknownahead yeah I believe in male privilege you believe there's male privilege okay I agree with her I think think like I don't really have a I don't really have much of a take on It come on you got it

Brian Atlasyou got a take um no have a goddamn take on any you got to take Sophie come on I believe in you come on um

EllieI I guess so yeah yeah yes I mean yeah it exists and it's going to always be there I think I think

Ana Godinathere's some male privilege but I think um women may be a little bit more privileged especially pretty privileged yeah that's a real thing women are probably more privileged than men I

Brian Atlaswould say okay yeah there's also I suppose there do you believe going back around the table do you believe in female privilege yeah absolutely 100% I think men are more respected but men are

Juliamore respect them but there are definitely more pretty privilege with women there's other privileges too but that women are way more privileged oh I agree that women are more privileged oh

Brian Atlasokay all right what about you I think women are privileged more more than men or you think it's about the same maybe men more privileged what do you think um I

Portiathink I'm kind of in the middle I don't really know me yeah um I think they're both privileged in different like in

Portiadifferent ways is one more privileged than the other historically I would say that men have always been more privileged but I would say that now we

Portiasee it in different ways especially in this like Society where a lot is online and a lot of like a lot of like like like as we talked about dating is really different for men

Portiaand women like I just think that privilege for women just looks differently than how privilege for men looks how does privilege for men look I would say that it's like being more

Portiarespected in a workplace being more chosen over like being like already like assumed that they're like smart or being already like assumed that there's like things like that like I would say that

Brian Atlasit's just that respect I think someone said that mhm uh Ryan do you have uh do you believe in male privilege do you believe in female privilege I think that both

Ryan (Rhino)have their own privileges in very specific instances but I would argue that women have more especially in today's society like yeah and there's

Brian Atlasdifferent examples of that right okay um I mean there's a whole bunch of ways I could approach this but I think the reality is that both men and women face

Brian Atlastheir own challenges however I would say that men's issues are ignored downplayed or dismissed with an apathetic typically it's not our problem men men caused it

Brian Atlasuh men are to blame for their own problems aka the patriarchy um while women's issues tend to be taken far more seriously which I think is a privilege in and of

Brian Atlasitself um I mean that's why in every single University and college in this country you have a feminist studies program a women's studies program a

Brian Atlasgender studies program which looks at analyzes researches all of the ways in which women are disadvantaged whether real or perceived and there is

Brian Atlasabsolutely no corresponding program to address men's concerns you look at governmental bodies there's typically not governmental bodies that have any anything to do with men but there's things that have to do with Women's

Brian AtlasHealth you never see anything like that in corporations it's the same exact thing there is I don't think there's a single college or university in this

Portiacountry which has a men men's studies program I think it's because the term feminist like the feminist study should be men and

Brian Atlaswomen should it do do you think it was appropriate that we when it like for example fire men we've we've changed that to firefighter or like policeman we've changed that to

Brian Atlaspolice officer right so don't you think like in women often or excuse me feminists often argue about gendered terms but in

Brian Atlasyour in your political and ideological movement you have feminism that's a gendered term in your movement so why not just I mean we we can talk about egalitarianism because

Juliawe're trying not to be a minority minity anymore like women are not a minority I mean we're just trying not to be population we're trying to be less oppressed sorry less oppressed wrong term yeah how are because how are you

Juliaoppressed because we have been oppressed for a long time in the past and now we're trying to like bring light to it I mean in I mean women weren't allowed to

Brian Atlasvote until like recently like 19 well 1918 and I believe is ratified in 1920 so we've had a cent of women being able

Brian Atlasto vote but okay but the fact that that wasn't available do you see what how that well I what I would be prepared to argue is there was for the vast major

Brian Atlasmajority of human history men weren't allowed to vote either there's maybe a hundred-year period where men were start it used to be a very small proportion of regardless of gender people could vote

Brian Atlasyeah so it is a very small for the longest period of human history neither men or women could vote it was a very small portion of History where men did there were more men that could vote than

Brian Atlaswomen yeah and but part of that was because of men men were subject to military conscription and women were not me

Brian Atlaspersonally in 19 in 1914 let me see how I want to tackle this I would have preferred not having the right to vote in

Brian Atlas1914 can you do you is there any reason why I might have let's say I was alive at that point is there any reason why I might have not wanted the right to vote and the corresponding UH responsibilities that came with it in

Brian Atlasthat time period because you would have stayed at home you would have been like the caretaker is that what you're kind of saying what happened in in the later part of the uh from 1914 to 1918 what

Brian Atlashappened like what do you mean from 1914 to 1918 what happened a

Brian Atlaslot War there was there was a major okay okay so World War I was from 1914 to 1918 it was the most up until that point

Brian Atlasit was the most brutal war that in that involved Many Many Nations there was there was uh chemical weapons trench

Brian Atlaswarfare Warfare that had a type of warfare that had never been seen before um millions of casualties millions of deaths predominantly when it comes to

Brian Atlasmilitary casualties uh predominantly men uh part of being able to vote came that was a right or a privilege came

Brian Atlaswith corresponding responsibility and that responsibility was getting shipped off to bellawood or amen

Brian Atlasor the Arden forest or are gone and getting being in a trench getting trench foot get getting chemical uh excuse me getting chemical gas by the

Brian AtlasGermans and getting a like a mortar or a shell or a bullet in your head yeah that's what men had to men had to

Brian Atlasbe uh exposed to in order to have the right to vote so me personally I would have it would have actually been a privilege to not I don't know if the privilege is the right term it's a

Brian Atlasprivilege to get to stay home home in in Idaho and not see the horrors of War so it's not clear to me if men were advantaged during a time period when men

Brian Atlashad the right to vote and women didn't because it men's right to vote came with a corresponding responsibility of being put through the meat grinder of war and being disposable men have always been

Brian Atlasthe Disposable sex yeah I I agree so but earlier you guys were saying well men are more respected actually no women's lives have always been more valued than

Brian Atlasmen's lives that's why we we ship our young men to war and have them killed in the battlefield we're dis men are disposable women are valued men are

Portiadisposable and you can't the the 20 million the the millions and millions of deaths throughout the wars reinforce my position what you're saying is valid I'm just saying in this day and age of

Portiarespect versus value I feel like are kind of different like value over like people people always say like women and children first there's value right but

PortiaI'm saying like respect as in like just respect respect for men is like really different than respect for women I would actually argue that men are less

Brian Atlasrespected than women you can you can be a misandrist and not get any backlash you can you can say some real man-hating and people just think it's a joke

Portiabut if you were to say that about women like yeah those are issues that that men face they're constantly being like which is reinforced by feminists yeah but I'm saying that my definition

Portialike I thought like we went over this like what when I say I'm a feminist that's what I meant like okay but you're kind of bringing up this generalized term of feminism that I already said like I didn't really agree with I I

Brian Atlasdon't think or you just like talking about feminism in general well I don't think I'm misrepresenting the feminist position because my understanding is the core tenant of feminism which is taught

Brian Atlasin any University feminism class feminist class is patriarchy Theory male privilege all these other terms and like

Brian Atlasif your position is that Society is is a male doin dominated Society if women are oppressed men are to blame men

Brian Atlasare the oppressors women are the oppressed if that is the central message that you're communicating to to people then in my view that is B

Brian Atlasthat is a pretty man-hating ideology to tell young women that men are to be blamed for all the either real or perceived grievances of the past and

Brian Atlaspresent you're teaching women to have contempt and hatred for men because you're teaching women that they are oppressed and men are the oppressors if you are if you're teaching

Brian Atlasthis brain rot to people then of course if you believe that men are oppressors and you're oppressed you're not going to feel you're not going to think anything positive about

Brian Atlasmen I I don't think I said any of like I don't think I like I'm not sure if that's your position are you just saying in general like that is that's the mainstream feminist position patriarchy

Brian AtlasTheory male privilege that's like mainstream that is in

TTS Readertextbooks okay wow that was One Motorsports donated $100 first you need to ban the word like if I he like one more time I might like

TTS Readerfreak like Doc seriously second the delusion these privileged women have about any sort of male privilege is like amazing the only privilege I have as a

Brian Atlasman is to work hard and die word I mean really quick on male privilege I I just think if males have privilege and there's a patriar patriarchy how can it

Brian Atlasbe that more men die in war men are forced into war men are less likely to go to college men are less likely to graduate from college more men die on the job more men are incarcerated more

Brian Atlasmen are homeless more men delete themselves I I'm failing to see where the male privilege is where the patriarchy is so I don't know I have a question for you like in your studies do

Sashathey talk about how women oppress other women or did they just talk about like the like the women like stereotypes that are like pushed on by other women yeah yeah we like definitely talked about

Portiathat what's like the take on that cuz I mean we talked about men oppressing women right that's like the whole thing but like I feel like women are the ones who oppress women I mean there's definitely like stereotypes that I think

Portiawomen like put on to each other like like this idea that like women can't get along or like women can't be friends like they're always going to be jealous or like caty towards each other I think

Portiathat's like kind of based off of like like the like sorry like the idea that like women are always battling each other like this like jealousy that like

Portiawomen face within each other I think that's definitely stemmed by like women's just like like internalized like issues that like have

Portiabeen like like growing because of the the type of society that we live in like the way that like we all like we feel the need to have like a certain type of presence or we feel the need to like

Portialook a certain way I think that's definitely like reinforced by a lot of different things like I personally just for me my like study and what I believe

Portiain is not like anti-men men have like messed this whole world like that's just not me like I think I'm very open to the idea of like the influences of both men

Portiaand women onto each other that affect each other which is why he brought up all those things like the amount of men that the that delete themselves like

Portiait's like it's in like there's a lot of issues that like men face that have been placed on them because a lot of people don't value what they go through to a certain

Portiaextent people are always like well you know that doesn't really matter like they're sad or that doesn't matter like they'll get over it like things like that like there's a lot of issues that both men and women face that I think

Portiapeople kind of get lost in this idea of like what feminism is and I think it's very it's very subjective it means a lot of different things now

Juliaespecially so um I have a question for you sure what problems do you think women face what problems do I think women face yeah like

Brian Atlasyeah I mean I'm I don't really uh I mean if you're a woman I mean it depends what your

Brian Atlaspolitical leanings are but there are some women who are pro-choice and in some states some women can't Canon abortions but however if you're a prolifer you don't really see that

Brian Atlasas but for some women I suppose that could be an issue for some women of course there are women who are pro-life who that's not an issue for them um you in some regions you can't go topless I'm

Brian Atlasall for free the titty movement I'm all about free the titty um so that that is one way women that is one honestly that's the only right that men have that

Brian Atlaswomen don't I think in this country to show your titties is women men can go topless it is true men can go topless women can't that is unfair and I'm all for it y'all can fre the

Brian Atlastitty so you don't think women have any real issues well I do I mean okay so when we're talking about from like a rights perspective I think we have equality

Brian AtlasI can't think of any right that men have that women don't now on a societal level are there there's probably yes there are

Brian Atlasprobably things that women face that men don't and vice versa um but TP typically when we're talking about women's rights

Brian Atlaslike I'm talking about rights like we're talking about rights so I think do men and women face specifically gendered issues yes but

Brian Atlasthere's this whole Trope of I'm fighting for women's rights which ones it's not clear to me that men have any rights that women don't don't at this point I guess the pro-choice you

Ana Godinaknow uh pro-life thing you know I think some women can argue you know that a man is deciding what they can do with their body not really well men can't get pregnant so I feel like that's not really a a

Brian Atlasrealistic because men can't get pregnant it's not clear to me men don't you could actually make a very compelling argument that men are disadvantaged on the

Brian AtlasReproductive Rights front because men have absolutely zero Reproductive Rights if your you get your girlfriend pregnant and she wants to keep the kid you don't have a say if she wants to get rid of

Brian Atlasthe kid you don't have a say yeah no I I'm I'm not making I'm not making an argument for one or the other but we don't in either direction we don't we don't have any Reproductive Rights so

Ana Godinait's not clear to me if it's a a right that a man has that a woman doesn't because we don't have any Reproductive Rights to begin with so yeah well I think the argument is you know a woman should be able to decide

Portiawhat she does you know with her body I don't think that's a separate thing but it's it's it's not a equal rights thing I mean it's not equ I don't think because I guess just rights to bodily

Brian Atlasautonomy like just well men have a different bodily autonomy I don't think that's something you compare I think it's just something that's like women just don't have that ability to make that choice well depending on your state

Brian Atlasdepending on the state depending on your state but men also can you we can make the argument that men actually have a stronger bodily autonomy argument when it comes to military

Brian Atlasconscription yeah that that's the whole like topic of that men have it different women have it different right but the diff I would say the difference I would say that the difference is is

Brian Atlasthat of course there are women who get assaulted but like I would most abortions it's like consensual sex didn't mean to get pregnant um so you

Brian Atlaschose to have sex whereas men their bodily autonomy argument is the state the government coming in and saying okay you're drafted we're shipping you to the Middle East who knows what's going to

Portiahappen with this current War there I don't think you should compare though do you know what I'm saying like what do you mean like I don't think we should compare we don't have to compare Oh I thought you no I just well we could

PortiaI I think I think I I just thought that you just said that like it like men have well we're talking about bodily autonomy and women women or feminists might say well

Brian Atlasmen don't have a con like a bodily autonomy concern but we actually do when it comes to forced military conscription oh also also

Brian Atlasum here again B autonomy most men in this country are circumcised upon birth without consent so I mean that's another bod autonomy argument and

Brian Atlasso yeah it's it's funny you laugh you laugh but literally men's penises are mutilated upon birth without informed consent so I mean does wait so um when

Juliayou're circumcised does that like affect how like what does that affect when ccum well I I don't know the specific

Brian Atlasstatistics on this but my understanding is that there is a a percentage rate when it comes

Brian Atlasto botched circumcisions so some men lose their penis some men have injury when they are circumcised I I don't think it's certainly not the majority but there are certainly botched

Brian Atlascircumcisions um I think for a greater portion of men they might lose uh some pleasure or sensitivity that they otherwise would have in during sexual activity um but then it also just comes

Brian Atlasdown to Choice um I think and it's probably to some degree I think it could inflict some sort of trauma because I mean you're

Brian Atlasinflicting physical pain on the newborn we don't know what kind of mental trauma that might impact on a child maybe there's none I don't know they I don't

Brian Atlasknow if they've done studies on it but I don't think we should be mutilating uh newborns so and and I don't think there's actually a

Brian Atlasvery strong claim to this like hygiene thing uh I think people there's plenty of men who live in other countries who are not circumcised who can observe good

Brian Atlashygiene when it comes to their parts so um that's another bodly autonomy component so yeah I mean you guys laugh but like literally if you think about it

Brian Atlasnew newborn males are getting their genitals mutilated upon birth so you wouldn't circumcise your son no no I would not so don't people do that for like

Brian Atlasreligious reasons yeah sure there's religious reason some people just do it it's an a for aesthetic or yeah I mean I don't there's no real benefits like you

Brian Atlassure but I don't think it's there're but I just don't think the pro Pros outway the cons so yeah I don't know um yeah so

Brian AtlasI'm trying to remember where we were oh B autonomy yeah I mean hot take I would say that um Force mil military conscription is worse than

Portiaum roie Wade being repealed I just don't think we should compare cuz it's like I I'm not a man

Portiayou're not a woman do you know what I mean you're like it's well I mean I regardless of our gender sex I think I feel like it it's just hard to compare

Brian Atlastwo different things that are just like on opposite ends well I mean you I suppose you can't make some comparisons because it is a bodly autonomy thing so yeah Force I think Force military

Brian Atlasconscription is a a worse infliction upon men than uh the current state of abortion rights in this country without making a statement on abortion rights I just

Brian Atlasthink like this is something you're forced to do whereas like again yes there are some women who are but most women who get abortions was

Brian Atlasfrom perfectly consensual sex so the difference is is that the state the government can come in force you to go to war but nobody's forcing

Brian Atlasyou to have sex that's your opinion it's not my opinion it's fact okay you think it's my opinion I'm saying it's your opinion that you think that oh you're that that I think it's a greater that

Portiaforced military conscription is a greater grievance than abortion rights yeah that's your opinion well do you do you disagree do you think one is more important other I don't think that that there should be like a comparison that's personally how I see it because I think

Portiathat once you start comparing it then it's just like well I think you can make comparisons you can make comparisons but when you see value like what's wor like then I think that the subject I don't know I just think but that's the whole

Brian Atlasconcept of male privilege female privilege and of that's pretty much the the Bedrock of of feminism we as women have been disadvantaged in comparison to

Brian Atlasmen we desire equal treatment in comparison to men and I'll tell you this there's not feminists that are fighting for Equalization of military conscription and you might say well we haven't had

Brian Atlasthe draft in a long time I'll tell you this when it comes to the Vietnam War there are men that would be alive today that aren't because of forced military conscription and there are men alive today that were uh conscripted in the

Brian Atlasmilitary that have PTSD who' have lost limbs because they went to Vietnam and they saw horrific things where they got shell in their head or

Ana Godinawhatever but do you think it's also because like what that guy had said about you know like obviously in war you need someone who's like stronger faster if all these other countries are sending their strongest okay you know soldiers

Brian Atlasobviously women we don't stand a chance like we if we're going to fight these other countries we have to send men well sure there is a there is a practical and a pragmatic component of well just based

Brian Atlason pure biological reality that men have greater upper body strength and you know whatever it may be but wait do you think that just consensus on this are men generally speaking physically stronger

Brian Atlasthan women yeah yeah yes yes okay CU some fist like actually okay um but I mean I would make the argument that you can also have cons conscription for

Brian Atlassupport roles so women should be conscripted too but you don't see feminists in the street fighting for equal Equalization of military conscription actually they fight against it actually a lot of feminist

Brian Atlasorganizations will fight against equality if said equality comes to the detriment of women that's why I don't think feminism is about equality I think in the most generous if I can paint

Brian Atlasfeminism in the most good light it is it is women's advocacy there's nothing wrong with women's advocacy but let's not get it Twisted with equality

Brian Atlasso what I'm my thing with feminism is feminists will fight for equality only if women benefit from set equality if set equality would come to the detriment

Brian Atlasof women feminists will not fight for it military conscription a lot of like uh custody things women will or feminist

Brian Atlasorganizations will push against it Reformation of alimony laws feminist organizations push against it in Florida there was a uh a law to equalize custody

Brian Atlasof children uh I think it was the National Organization for Women which is one of the leading women's and feminist organizations in this country in Florida

Brian Atlasthey they campaigned against the bill to equalize uh shared custody so again feminists will fight against equality if that equality could in some way conceivably come to the

Brian Atlasdetriment of women so I don't really think feminism is about equality I think it's about women's advocacy in the most generous

Sashalight triggered little triggered no no triggered no no I mean yeah I'm not I'm happy to if you guys want to Reb rebuke me or disagree what you're saying is valid and I know a lot of people in this

Ana Godinaroom probably don't agree but what you're saying is valid I think I saw what's what's that one movie about like the feminist movement is it the red pill I don't know I don't know if it's necessarily called

Ana Godinathe red pill but it does you know kind of speak on like you know you know alimony and like child support and yeah how like there really

Ana Godinais a war on men and I don't agree with all of it but I do um yeah I do see you know your point of view with that I'll say this I'll say this there are no

Sashafeminists when World War III starts a lot of you guys want equal rights equal rights equal fights no I'm kidding anyways but yes I mean like look

Brian Atlasat Ukraine all the women could leave the country all the men had to stay from the age of 18 to I think 60 or 65 you as a man could not leave the country if

Brian Atlasyou're a woman you could leave that's why you know it's so crazy oh feminism this feminism that when it comes down to it when it comes down to the fight when it comes down to Russia

Brian Atlasinvading your country there's no feminists anymore all the women while all their men in Ukraine were dying getting killed all the women went to

Brian AtlasStockholm Sweden and were in the club partying getting drunk they went to the UK they went to Sweden they went wherever they could to they get to

TTS Readercontinue their hot girl summer while 99 for the itty bitty titty committees and take oay bitty midies what do you do if you were an hour late to a date and

TTS Readerhe takes you to the cheese Cake Factory girl more like crack walk the was that # mids feminism suck

Brian Atlasfed um what do you do if you were an hour I I saw that video I want to react to it in one of our future streams um so what's the his question

Brian Atlasis would you guys object to a guy taking it it's to taking you to the Cheesecake Factory on the first dat wait no there was more to the question there was something about being an hour late okay would you here just would you

Brian Atlasobject if a guy took you to The Cheesecake Factory on a first date no I love the Cheesecake Factory I think that's a legit that's a fine day I mean good place pretty

Brian Atlassolid anybody okay all right all right we have a jack I'll message you later for our date see you soon I'll be waiting she will be waiting okay I think we're all wrapped up uh

Brian Atlasfinal question here before oh yeah guys go to twitch.tv whatever drop us a follow drop us a prime prime sub thank you guys um okay last question before we wrap up

Brian Atlaswait let me just make sure yeah I think we're good on that um body count should do you object to men caring

Portiaabout body count let's start with you I'll start with you yeah oh me yeah yeah yeah go ahead caring about body count um I guess I'm like like I've

Jessicaalways just been curious with anyone I've dated what their body count is MHM okay yeah I agree with her um yeah I don't blame them for judging someone off body count because I would do the same

Sashathing okay yeah I think men should definitely ask your body count and you should be truthful about it yeah I think we should both be

Sophiecurious I guess so but I feel like it's so like high school yeah like I honestly like I don't give a anymore about body count

Brian Atlasno what if a guy didn't want to date you because of your body count would you think he's like kind of insecure or kind of immature it's stupid like stupid

Elliedon't okay what about you I mean yeah I disagree with them honestly word what about you uh a man's body count isn't as important as a woman's body count isn't

Ana Godinaas important yeah like I don't really care about a man's body count but I mean Julia disagrees with you over here by the way but I do think a woman's body count is much more important I feel like part of a woman's value is you know kind

Ana Godinaof like her Purity and yeah if you're just a bunch of dudes I don't think society's going to see you as valuable

Sashayeah you're no longer a high value woman yeah sorry yeah it's kind of but

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