She SLASHED His Tires But HOOKED UP After?! | Dating Talk #110

Date: 2023-10-18

Duration: 5h 42m

Guests

Brian Atlas

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SSophie (DT110)>

JJulia (DT110)>

SSasha (DT110)>

JJessica (DT110)>

PPortia (DT110)>

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00TTS Reader(audience)

SPEAKER_01Ryan (Rhino)(guest)

SPEAKER_02Sasha(guest)

SPEAKER_04Sophie(guest)

SPEAKER_05Jessica(guest)

SPEAKER_06Ellie(guest)

SPEAKER_07Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_11Julia(guest)

SPEAKER_12Portia(guest)

SPEAKER_13Maia(guest)

SPEAKER_14Ana Godina(guest)

Key Moments

RelationshipEllie reveals her 3-year NC long-distance boyfriend did not visit or get her anything for her 21st birthday.

“He like for the past like month beforehand was like oh I am going to come visit... nothing”

QuoteTikTok reaction: woman lost all interest when boyfriend started crying after opening up about vulnerability. Brian and Ryan discuss reality vs stated desire for male vulnerability.

“I wanted this man to be vulnerable with me for so long he finally called me yesterday and opened up but the second he started crying I lost all interest in him”

Key MomentJulia reveals she was in a situationship with a meth addict who had her steal bikes and break into an unlocked stranger house in IV. Two weeks later she discovered it was her friend house.

“We go into the bathroom... we hear people in a bedroom... we start freaking out so we just run out... two weeks later it is the house”

Key MomentSasha reveals her previous boyfriend (11-year age gap) was engaging in emotional cheating via Snapchat messages to a girl younger than Sasha.

“It was emotional cheating it was saying about how like you know maybe we could have worked I miss you I do not know if I am happy”

Key MomentSasha reveals she slashed 3 tires on her cheating boyfriend truck, then both slashed the 4th together so he could file an insurance claim -- the title story.

“I slashed his tires on his new truck... we both walked outside and finished off the job so that he could follow the insurance claim”

Key MomentAna reveals she lost her virginity at age 25 with the person she thought she would marry, surprising given her OnlyFans and nightlife image.

“I lost my virginity at 25 with the person who I thought I was going to end up with”

ControversyBrian confronts Portia after her three friends came to his studio building and buzzed all tenants on the call box looking for her during the live show.

“Your friends came to our studio... they called everybody all the residents here on the call box wondering about you... your friends are really immature”

OtherPortia apologizes at end of show for the disruption caused by her friends showing up at the studio.

“I am really sorry about interrupting a podcast I feel really bad I am sorry”

Key MomentVoluntary body count disclosures: numbers 5, 5, 3, 9 shared around table (attribution unclear). Ryan Rhino claims 100+ jokingly.

“anybody here want to share body five five three um nine... Rhino 100 plus”

Topics Discussed

Guest Introductions

Each guest introduces name, age, and occupation. Guests: Ana (28, cocktail server/OF, Vegas), Ellie (21, SBCC poli sci, NC), Sophie (20, barista/tattoo artist), Julia (~21, barista/nanny), Sasha (27, bottle girl/photographer, married, from Brazil/Vegas), Jessica (19, student/Sacramento), Maia (21, CSUN), Portia (20, UCSB feminist studies, Guam), Ryan "Rhino" (26, YouTuber, LA).

Relationship Status Round

Each guest describes current relationship status. Key stories: Ellie's 3-yr long-distance on-and-off NC boyfriend who didn't visit for her 21st birthday. Sophie's ended open situationship. Julia's recently ended 2-yr on-off semi-open relationship. Sasha is married 3 yrs (husband had 3 brain surgeries). Jessica's situationship after being cheated on badly. Maia: single 2 yrs after 5-yr HS relationship. Portia: just ended talking stage. Ryan: single since early 2023.

Dating Apps and Hinge Profiles

Discussion of dating apps. Sophie's Hinge profile reviewed by chat. Guests discuss match volumes, motivations for using apps. Ellie met one sneaky link on Hinge.

Feminism Debate

Round-table on whether guests identify as feminists. Portia identifies as feminist (nuanced). Others mixed. Ryan and Brian critique feminism as women's advocacy rather than true equality, pointing to military conscription and custody law reform.

Going Out / Partying While in a Relationship

Debate on whether it's insecurity or reasonable concern for men to not want their girlfriends going out to clubs and bars. Both Vegas nightlife workers (Ana, Sasha) weigh in on cheating they witness. Discussion of alcohol, lowered inhibitions, and situational infidelity.

Marriage, Kids, and Relationship Goals

Round-the-table discussion on wanting marriage and kids, desired timelines. Sasha married 3 yrs. Others want marriage by late 20s or 30s. Taking husband's last name debated.

Traditional Roles / What Partners Expect from Each Other

Guests discuss expectations from a partner in a relationship. Ana and Sasha favor traditional roles (man provides/protects, woman cares for home and family). Ellie and Portia push back on financial expectations.

Male Vulnerability

Discussion triggered by TikTok clip of woman losing attraction after boyfriend opened up and cried. Debate on whether men should be emotionally vulnerable with partners, and how women actually react vs what they claim. TikTok reaction: "I wanted him to be vulnerable but the second he started crying I lost interest." Brian and Ryan share personal experiences where vulnerability led to relationship deterioration.

Men Losing Fights / Attraction and Male Strength

Discussion of a viral clip of a female MMA fighter's boyfriend getting knocked out in a professional fight. She lost attraction and broke up with him. Panel reacts. Discussion of whether women lose attraction when men lose fights or appear weak.

Political Views and Deal Breakers

Round-table: guests share political leanings (conservative, liberal, moderate, apolitical). Discussion of whether opposite political views are a deal-breaker when dating.

Julia's Meth-Addict Situationship

Julia describes a situationship with a man she later discovered was addicted to meth (thought it was just coke). He would spam-call her at 3-4am, have her steal and return bikes, and once led her to break into an unlocked IV house to hook up while residents were home. Two weeks later she accidentally discovered it was her friend's house.

Sasha's Tire Slashing Story

Sasha recounts discovering emotional cheating (Snapchat messages to younger ex) on her then-boyfriend (11-yr age gap). Drove to his place, slashed 3 of 4 tires on his new truck. Went inside, confronted him. They made up the same night. Then both went outside and slashed the 4th tire together so he could file an insurance claim for all 4.

Partner Type / Physical Preferences

Round-table on physical and personality type preferences. Sophie likes skater-boy aesthetic. Ellie prefers 6' minimum. Sasha: dad bods okay, tattoos a turn-on, gravitates toward white men. Jessica: blonde hair, blue eyes, ~6'4" (wants to pass on genes to kids). Portia: no race preference, personality-focused.

Portia's Friends Showing Up at the Studio

Three of Portia's friends came to Brian's studio building and buzzed all residents on the call box trying to locate her. Brian learns from property manager Nick. Becomes frustrated that strangers are harassing tenants and threatening his tenancy. Portia apologizes; Brian remains annoyed. Portia apologizes again at end of show.

Feminism and Bodily Autonomy / Military Conscription

Brian argues male bodily autonomy concerns (military conscription, circumcision) are stronger than the abortion debate talking point. Portia (feminist studies) pushes back against direct comparison. Extended debate on reproductive rights, Ukraine war, and feminist organizational hypocrisy on equality.

Body Count Discussion

Final segment. Round-table on whether body count matters. Ana and Sasha say women's body count is more important than men's. Sophie indifferent. Ellie disagrees. Voluntary sharing: some guests volunteer numbers (5, 5, 3, 9 — speaker attribution unclear due to diarization). Ryan jokes about 100+.

Transcript

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Brian Atlasfootball team really yeah see you don't even know it's division three you don't even know yeah wait okay so we were talking about like how quickly yeah how can how

Brian Atlasyou can tell was that what yeah I mean there's various factors although to be fair there are some very unassuming women who might be a bit more shy bit more quiet bit more

Brian Atlasintroverted they got some skeletons in their closet so sometimes there's no way to know yeah there's no way to know I think the

Brian Atlasbig there's certain indicators like just like puts herself in doggy position in a very confident way it's like okay I'm kidding okay hold on but in like a good doggy position or like in a like I don't

Brian Atlasknow how to arch my back and I'm kind of struggling doggy position like it's like oh I've never done this before and then she's just like going to and I mean that that's not fair though I mean a girl can

Brian Atlasget skills in having had one long-term relationship but but uh the girl could get skills by doing yoga word word just saying you know yeah

Brian AtlasI don't how did where where were we where what were we on um I forgot um I got some notes Here uh let's see oh I think we were talking about that girl

Brian Atlaswith telling her boyfriend um uh let's see uh okay uh maybe we I think we're all caught up on that I had a question here

Brian Atlasfor everybody do you guys think men only want one

Brian Atlasthing Ian Noy she say do you think all men all we want is no no no not all men most men Mo

Jessicamost men most men but not all men okay that's a good way most men there a really one most and if they get something more they just got lucky oh they got they got lucky if they get more than no like if that like turns into a relationship it's not because

Sashathey were like looking for that it just so happened that they really connected well oh okay I see that I think deep down men are also looking for a sense of security in their partner okay a partner that provides them with security just as

Sashamuch as he's going to provide her with a sense of protection and security they want that reciprocated sure 100% Sophia

SophieSophie excuse me what do you think do guys do you think all guys want is um maybe right off the

Sophiebat it I it's I don't know it depends okay I don't think all guys no most guys most guys just okay uh what about you yeah I feel

Jessicalike I'm like with like the team on this one most guys kind of just want like it could evolve I mean maybe it's just because we live in Santa Barbara but it's like a trend among like college students at least maybe like when you're older all the men here have on

Jessicatheir minds like that's it yeah like you can if you like walk through like a party all you see is literally people like Mack and like yeah yeah and you know where they're going after that yeah so age age is fact I think definitely age plays a factor in that you know as

Jessicathey get older maybe they're ready to settle down and then that changes and maybe they're looking for something more serious n they still want maybe both yeah I mean at least for me

Ana Godinais definitely not all I want unless that's all you got oh okay all right it's a quote I think more men want love than like what they realized I think a lot of

Ana Godinamen that like haven't experienced like that genuine connection love from a woman probably like oh yeah these you know I just want but once they've experienced that like I think a lot of men like oh wow you know

Brian Atlaslike the love for a woman is yeah it's different honestly my view is I think women that all you want is D no I think

Brian Atlasmen want sometimes we just want to can't we just talk yes we can talk yes ask you guys I feel objectified all you girls all you want is to have sex and sometimes I just want to talk I just

Sashawant to call like oh and you just treat me like a piece of meat it's really weird it's rude women do do that yes so mean I feel I feel objectified I feel

Ana Godinaused sorry reversing all huh I think some I think the roles are like slowly reversing I think like women are like I'm kind of joking but no no no but I but I I really genuinely think that I

Brian Atlasthink I wrote that to you that I think the roles are kind of reversing let yeah let's get into I'm going to try to get through some of our pre-share notes that you guys provided so starting with

Brian AtlasJessica oh I think we kind of already went over this um you said you you uh wait I made life a living hell after and

Jessicatold because he he was with some underage that's pretty I can't like uh accuse him of them being fully underage considering he was like only about to turn 18 so like he was also

Jessicaunder I mean that's still technically but it's just like weird cuz the girl don't validate it but you said you made his life a living hell so like what did you post on bulletin board yeah I did actually wait

Jessicayou printed out like his face I no no I like post posted on Tik Tok and it like got really popular and like people were just like dogging on him left and right and then like I was really upset with

Jessicahim so I like befriended some of the befriended means like became friends with right okay yeah became friends with some of the girls that go to his private Christian school and he went to school 45 minutes away and I literally showed

Jessicaup to his volleyball game and he his face like turned white as a ghost when I showed up and he literally walked out of the game yeah so good times yeah do you feel like you got your sense of

SashaSatisfaction by doing that unfortunately yes because that just made it blow up even more do you feel like when you did that you thought about the other girls that were involved like the younger girls that they're like oh like

Jessicapeople knew I was involved with this man now it's going to come back on me it's it honestly is so embarrassing thinking about it like 100% but honestly like

TTS Readerthose girls like they're all really Brandon mels donated $99 Brandon thank you man I can't speak for all men but when it comes to myself I'm looking to be able to rest my head on my women at

TTS Readernight someone I can connect to the average day week or year is so difficult for men you couldn't imagine we just want to be loved I agree men just want to be loved

SashaI think everyone does I think everyone has that goal I feel like the best thing a woman can do for her man is when he comes home ask him how his day was how was your day what happened like talk to me about it men are so like high strung

Sashaand they don't want to talk like just yeah talk have that sense of security you're like no I don't want to talk about anything why why why not why not

Brian Atlasis that weak it's not weak it is not weak no I'm asking yeah well no it's not I mean it's more so just like uh what's that saying I think silence is golden I

Brian Atlasthink that's how it goes but is it I don't need like talk about my day I've already like I don't really I don't want to talk about I spend so much time at work doing work I don't really want to

Sashatell you about it why not that's just I'm rehashing my I'd rather just like chill and kick it okay I mean that's depends on situation but it's like what if you had a bad day at work and it's eating at you inside and you just want

Brian Atlasto you just want to talk about it I want to bury that deep with within deep inside and Let It Blow Up 3 months from now that's what I want to do damn dude

Brian Atlastherapy therapy no therapy no no it's just like well okay I mean and I'm kind of being a little factious with that but um I think one of the differences

Brian Atlasbetween men and men and women is me talking about my issues or difficulties doesn't typically resolve them so I see from a purely utilitarian

Brian Atlasalmost I'm probably somewhat on the Spectrum I'm probably autistic me talking about my issues does nothing to resolve them so why would I feel it like it's just to me it's a waste of time to talk about my problems have you tried doing that and it didn't work no just

Brian Atlasmakes me more upset because then I'm thinking about it and I'm like I'm rethinking about the thing that made me upset and I'm I'd rather just try to

Brian Atlaslike to me if if there is no solution then it's it's a situation I either have to accept or try to fix but

Brian Atlastalking to somebody about my issues does not fix my issues women love to fix so maybe we can help you fix haven't found the right one well okay but typically for real if there's a solution

Brian Atlasto something like an actual solution something that I can do to fix the but something shitty happened I don't really like feel like talking about it it doesn't help me resolve it why why you on like that's just no that's that makes

Brian Atlasme sad cuz it's like everyone should you know feel better when they're coming home at the end of the day like but but dumping on to you the difficult things

Brian Atlasin my life does I I personally it it just almost re talking about past bullshitter doesn't make me feel good would it make you feel better like

Ana Godinaknowing you're not going through it alone like hey babe like obviously dumping is you know kind of negative all the time but just like oh this problem happened you know hey your girl can kind

Brian Atlasof offer Solutions or just be there for you I mean talk but talking she can be there for me but like having to articulate the things the difficult things that I'm dealing with when it

Brian Atlascomes to work or like something else uh that's not particularly appealing to me because it's my view is it's either something that I can try to solve or I can't there's no point in talking about it

Brian Atlaswhat if you can brainstorm I mean I'm I feel like I find solution I mean I'd probably like when it comes to professional thing I'd probably I've I have a couple male

Brian Atlasfriends that I I take their counsel and I'd probably maybe like if I'm really man I don't know what to do here I might talk to my girl about it but that's not really I yeah I don't feel the need to

Brian Atlastalk talk to her about it you don't think men should come to women with their problems they can just me personally I I don't like talking about my if if I needed advice on the

Brian Atlassituation maybe I bring it to her maybe I bring it to some trusted male friends that I have that I respect their counsil but if I I would never want to just vent

Sashais that the word women get off to that like when you're venting to us oh my God that is a sexest thing I'm I'm calling C now sorry Lally that is a sex like that makes me feel like wow you

Brian Atlastrust me I'm going to give you some headon trust you what the yeah oh talking about things over I get sometimes doesn't help but for anyone like chat saying it's cringe or beta to just want love are twoo chronically

Brian Atlasonline there's a reason men's uh deletion rate is so high uh age what rate dele self deltion rate um you know

Brian Atlasum no I just it's not it's not that I'm just not going to talk to you about things but I'd rather I've already dealt like I don't want to go deal with the stressful

Brian Atlascomponents of work and then relitigate them with you my partner I'd rather just like oh let's have a chill night I don't want to tell you about my problems so it's like sorry so if you were to come home and your girlfriend

Brian Atlaswas like babe how was your day you're like don't even ask me about that I mean I might just be like okay you know when you're in the drive-through line or like so you're getting you're at the grocery store and

Brian Atlasthe checkout person says oh how are you and you're having a dog day and you say oh I'm good okay that's how that would be but your girl is not the lady of the grocery I know what you're saying what

Elliedo you mean sure I know what you're saying that's how it feels for you no I would probably just be like it was okay that's it but like isn't it like comforting almost to like talk to like like say that like something sh shitty

Brian Atlashappen isn't it like almost comfor if there was a situation where I wanted advice on something then I would tell her the situation what if you were just upset but no I wouldn't I wouldn't want to talk I don't like to uh it just makes me more upset to just continue talking

Brian Atlasabout it so I just I'd rather just not talk about it honestly I feel like most problems like if you if you think about most of the problems you've had in your entire life a week later do you still give a no true so a lot of the

Brian Atlasproblems that we think are a big deal don't really matter so I don't feel the need to like relitigate them with my girlfriend and be all butt hurt let's just chill kick it if it's a really big thing maybe I'll tell you but now are you the type of

Sashaperson to come home and ask your girlfriend how her day was or do you not want to hear about it either f godamn it I don't give me that's what Ruben's relationship I might just be like hey

Ana Godinahow are you I'll say how are you what the do you talk about like just like you don't tell her about your problem she doesn't tell you about yours like what what is this relationship you can't even be open

TTS Readerbut i' rather just like chill we talk about talk about the weather oh let's talk about this grid One Motorsports donated

TTS Reader$100 my wife made me such a better person it is hard for others to understand I am not a nice person it takes massive effort for me to be the

TTS Readerkind amiable human people think I am it is all due to her aspire to that be better women respect honor

Brian Atlasa I mean I do think a good a good woman will like soften your heart in some ways in a good way not like in a weak simp soy boy type of way but no but

Ryan (Rhino)that's not what we're wanting we're just wanting you to talk to us I was going to interject and I was going to say cuz I would disagree with you or and maybe this is because I'm light-skinned and [Music]

Ryan (Rhino)you're okay so I'm like a I'm a drama I would say I'm like a drama queen so I what you said there like oh don't you want your girl to and rant to your girl

Ryan (Rhino)and talk to him I have a natural inclination to want to do that but then girls will often give guys this advice of we want you to be vulnerable and like

Ryan (Rhino)open up to us and I'm I'm like yeah that sounds great but I found that and I can't put any studies on this but women want like a captain they want

Ryan (Rhino)if you're on a plane and you're a pilot's like I don't know about this FL man like it's just been so hard flying and stuff you're subconsciously going to

Ryan (Rhino)be if you're a passenger you're like oh should I get on this plane yeah um so the same way happens if you in a relationship women want a leader so if

Ryan (Rhino)you start opening up too much to your girl and being too not vulnerable but giving too much drama too much oh wo is me work was so hard again today like

Sashawell no I don't think women not asking men to be I don't think vulnerable is the right word I think we're just asking like share a part of your day with us so we can feel even more connected to you I think that's what we want yeah I think

Ryan (Rhino)men have to open up to their girl strategically because if you start giving too much and like I love being a little spoon and I love doing like that but then if I do one too many nights as a little spoon you know your

Ana Godinagirl is going to start thinking like damn this is kind of a softy like I do think someone could use it against you yes and I've seen it like you know I think like women can like soften a man and it's almost like an ego thing to a woman sometimes like all

Ana Godinaright got you like look you're soft and look you're crying and you're venting and I think you know the wrong woman can definitely use it against you so I do think that's why some men are so hesitant about you know also opening up

Ryan (Rhino)cuz yeah women like doing the talking and the emotional stuff and let's talk it out and be cutesy and then they'll turn their man into someone that they then don't even respect anymore so the guy that they fell in love with they've

Ryan (Rhino)now turned turn him into a pillow pit and it's like yeah but good women won't do that think you'll still lose you'll still lose lose attraction yeah but it's but it happens on a subconscious level it's not like you're actively sitting

Ryan (Rhino)there like I don't like him anymore cuz he complained about work today uh but again that's why I just tell people to do it strategically yeah and I mean just going back really quick to my thing I

Brian Atlaslike I don't want to talk about my problems I want to solve them so if there is no solvable solution just someone was a or I'm frustrated

Brian Atlasabout some something I really unless I can solve it I let it go i' yeah I'd rather just not even talk about it um when it comes to the vulnerability thing let's go around the table on this from

Brian Atlasall the girls do you do you think it's a good thing for a guy to be vulnerable do you think men should be more in touch with their emotions do you think men have an issue with that you know men are

Ana Godinanot in touch with their emotions men have a difficult y being vulnerable yeah I think men definitely have an issue being vulnerable but understandably so I

Ana Godinathink people use it against them both men and women so I get why it could be really hard for men to open up but I definitely think they should be more open and that's why I think it's important to have that safe space like a

Elliewoman yeah no I agree like I definitely think like being vulnerable is like it's pretty important but there's also I think like a little bit of a point where being too vulnerable is like kind of an

Ellieissue you know but like at the same time we should be like kind of more in touch with like emotions when you're in a relationship at least be a little vulnerable I agree um I think it's

Sophieimportant for them to be pretty vulner or vulnerable to a certain extent and like not super closed off cuz I don't know I feel like that could cause a lot of

Juliaproblems yeah I feel like definitely in our society men are forced to not be as vulnerable um and and that obviously sucks and I think that they should be

Juliabecause in if you're like for an example if you're at work and you're like frustrated with something and you come back and you talk to your girlfriend about it and you guys really digest like

Juliawhat is going on like what is making you angry um it could be like literally something from like your childhood trauma where you're just like oh that's why that makes me upset because I had to

Juliadeal with that growing up and then you kind of figure that out and then you can slowly learn how to once you see what the problem is you can kind of learn how to work through it and work with it

Sashacompletely I mean I don't want my man to be a little right like nobody wants that well exactly but exactly but but here's the thing knowing how Society

Sashais progressing nowadays I mean the exit rate for man for you know a man have you straighten your mic a little bit here uh here yeah go ahead yeah the ex the exiting rate for a man is much

Sashahigher than a woman because they don't get to talk about all that it all gets built up I don't think it's because they're not talking about their feelings I feel like think that's the reason that's the supression of it the

Sashasuppression I feel like yes I don't want my man to be a little but I do want him at night to lay his head down on me and be like I feel safe I my

Brian Atlasunderstanding and I I don't recall the exact quote on this but I think so like if we're talk if we're referencing talk therapy MH my understanding is that talk

Brian Atlastherapy is more effective for women than it is for men because I think men and women are different men and women work through things differently so again I

Brian Atlasdon't think men are deleting themselves at higher rates because there's they're not talking about their problems but do you think

Brian Atlasthat I think they men are talking about their problems and I think I got to take this uh I think the reason that men are deleting themselves is because nobody gives a

Sashaabout their problems that's not true you find the right partner that person will go to the ends of the Earth for you they will they will be there with you yeah but okay well I mean I'm

Sashatalking more on the societal level but um you I agree that you don't want to open up okay you guys been dating for two weeks don't trauma dump don't do it but if you're at a place where you've been in a relationship for a long time

Sashayou're married you've been together for what 10 years talk to me about your problems because if I don't know what's going on with you and something traumatic happens like

Brian Atlasdeleting yourself okay that's a very specific thing I'm not like you know I think when we're talking about being vulnerable and being open with our

Brian Atlasemotions we're not talking about like we're not talking about that but I think we're talking about more like generalized things yeah I mean yeah don't be a in the

Jessicafirst couple years first couple years I don't know don't be a in the you know like what about you go ahead um I honestly think I'd be offended if they felt like they couldn't be vulnerable with me like not obviously like she said

Jessicalike it can't be like dating for two weeks you be like like whatever but like if it's like you know like we're like dating like we're boyfriend and girlfriend we're dating like I feel like you should have every right to be vulnerable with your partner and I like

MaiaI said would be upset if you didn't feel like you could be okay and I would definitely think I was doing something wrong um I think that it's a good thing that a man should be vulnerable but then

MaiaI also feel like people are so different and like some people thrive off getting other people's opinions and being able to talk and like open up and listen to like what another person is saying but then other people thrive off solving their own problems by themselves so I

Brian Atlasfeel like everyone is different in that sense hey Nick um can you go into the uh podcast Dropbox podcast videos folder there's a Tik Tok it's called open up be

Portiavulnerable um we'll react to that it's related to this go ahead yeah I agree with her I think that everyone has their own personal opinions and like react differently to situations some people

Portialike to talk about some don't but I think it's important to be emotionally aware of how you are because I think if something hits you and like you're not in tune with your emotions you tend to

Brian Atlaslike push your partner away or it affects your relationship because you're not able to like I guess deal with it uh Nick do you have it if you're able to pull it up believe so yeah we don't we

Brian Atlasdon't need no audio no audio it's just some

Brian Atlasmusic it you can play it it's just heard doing some dumb dance or something um I wanted this man to be vulnerable with me for so long he finally called me yesterday and opened up but the second he started crying I

Brian Atlaslost all interest in him quickly this is a safe space but not that safe that woman don't love him she's she's a cold uh make

Brian Atlassure to put the audio back on Nick um so I mean that's kind of the reality though when it comes to this topic um it's like you claim that you guys want the

Brian Atlasvulnerability but when we're V vulnerable at least in my experience I know in your experience Ryan there is tends to be I've noticed a palpable

Brian Atlasshift in the relationship I had one experience where this girl was super into me and uh I was vulnerable in front of her within a immediately we

Brian Atlasstart having arguments immediately it just was like night and day she starts arguing with me things start changing up um and within a month we broke

Brian Atlasup so I think a lot of women say they want to like have a vulnerable guy but when a guy is vulnerable I think a lot of women will whether on a conscious level or not

Sashathey will end up punishing that vulnerability I mean it's a two-way street right like is it I I think you don't think it's a tway street I feel like in a sense of like you got to be vulnerable with the right woman a woman

Brian Atlasthat's still going to respect you I think most like there's also this other uh let me ask if you guys saw your boyfriend get into a fight with somebody

Brian Atlasand your boyfriend got up mhm would you be a little like I mean OB maybe you'd take care of him but you'd be like a little turned off if you got scorched

Juliain aight hold on hold on go ahead answer um I think that would be probably embarrassing for him so I'd want to make him like feel better and like not he

Elliejust got that's embarrassing go ahead go so like I mean I guess I get it like it's just embarrassing to see someone lose a fun cuz just like ooh like then they're like

Jessicagetting up and they look all up and you're just like Sophie what about you yeah it's a it's a little bit of um yeah it's embarrassing that actually happened to me my my we used to have like these fight nights in our hometown

Jessicaand my boyfriend participated in one of them he literally got thrown to the floor um this is the cheating one and like it was definitely slightly embarrassing cuz like my whole high school high school was there and

Jessicaeveryone knew I was dating him but at the end of the day I still did comfort him despite his loss but were you kind of like yes I was what did you articulate it though articulate it um

Jessicawell I I mean I was literally like hugging him like you're okay but inside I was like o like what are you doing like why are you putting yourself in this position okay but not why are you

Sashafighting someone in the first fighting someone in the first place it was embarrassing that he put himself in the position not that he lost let let me yes yes okay I mean that's a little bit different okay let me try to reframe

Brian Atlasthis a little bit you're out with your boyfriend at a party again here's another reason why you shouldn't go out partying some dude steps to you and says

Brian Atlassome rude inappropriate remark do you look towards your boyfriend to intervene yeah do you want him to either verbally confront him or maybe even physically

Brian Atlasconfront him verbally verbally verbally I I think like he the other guy is drunk now it's starting to escalate to now a physical confrontation your boyfriend gets

Sophiescorched the up and knocked out by the dudes knocked out I wouldn't date someone who like I'd want him to just be like like walk away like but okay but

Brian Atlaswhen it comes to like this escalate can escalate very quickly especially if alcohol is involved so your boyfriend okay yo what the don't don't touch my girlfriend blah blah blah and he's

Brian Atlaslike what no what no that's you like the guy the guy says it to your boyfriend and he and then they take their shirts off I just think it's IM mature like I rather have like a mature guy who's like this

Sophieisn't worth my like let's just walk away like he's this guy's an idiot like why I'm not wasting he might not have the opportunity in a self-defense situation to walk away he gets stucked in the face I'd rather him not like get up and like start like I rather him you wouldn't

Brian Atlaswant him to defend himself well if the guy kept trying to like i' rather him what if what if your boyfriend was on the ground going like that's even that wouldn't be a turnoff

Brian Atlasdamn I mean is her boyfriend like 5 foot nothing and the man's like 6'2 like what's going on here I'm just saying like we there's this uh really famous clip I don't know if you watched The Joe Rogan podcast

Brian Atlaswhere there was a MMA fighter a female MMA fighter her boyfriend was an MMA fighter and this was like a two uh fight and he was fighting this guy do we do we

Brian Atlashave the clip hold on let me let me see if it's in the uh uh let me see might be in the I'm just checking if we have it

Brian Atlasum one sec here um I thought we had it but I don't know if we do sorry guys just checking

Brian Atlasif we have the clip in any case I'll just say so she's an MMA fighter he's an M MMA fighter her boyfriend who she said was a great fantastic guy gets knocked out and she's like ooh didn't like that

Ana Godinaand then she lost attraction for him and broke up with him damn in a professional fight mind you where it's like you know that's up dude in a pro fight so it wasn't a street fight like you got

Brian Atlasknocked out fight I mean that's your job uh we'll just watch a short portion of it I guess sure why not

Brian Atlasokay and look I'm not saying all women are like this but I mean I there's enough to be like we don't know which type you are go ahead yeah oh audio audio audio you're probably

TTS Readermuted go ahead what it's not it doesn't bug me when somebody's just they have you know slender neck but when they go through so much trouble donated $999 he should only be vulnerable with

Brian Atlasthe right woman she should only sleep with the right man sorry took a minut send on the streamlabs yo deise thank you very much man appreciate it uh word hey let's continue thank you man

Unknownappreciate it just they have you know a slender neck but when they go through so much trouble to look like an alpha male right but they have that little chicken neck right and then they're posing like

Unknownthey're that's got to be a big issue with you like as a woman like the way you interact with men as a world champion Muay tide woman yeah I haven't figured that out you have to have a hard

Unknowntime with the men I do how bet you do I do yeah cuz you need to get a real one like a real real one like that's the only way it's going to work yeah it doesn't no yeah imagine it's hard out

Unknownthere for a Pimp it is right so I had is a great boyfriend but we went to out of country

Unknownwe fought on the same card he fought the day before me I fought the next day during the fight he almost gets knocked out as this guy is mauling him he goes

Unknownlike this what do you think I was thinking um not good thoughts the boyfriend the boyfriend my boyfriend

Unknownlike like this yeah you didn't like it no did it turn you off oh my God so much wa I was like dude you're getting up and you're drop as you're

Unknownfalling to the canvas you KN still need to go you wow you're like you like that so the way getting beaten was with you yeah wasn't just that he was getting beaten I don't care I

Unknowndon't know I don't care yeah I don't care if you're not going to yeah like you got to like take that take it yeah like like you know like a champ or like

Unknownlike a fighter right yeah you can't be like wow that sorry was that the beginning of the end yeah that was

Brian Atlastap he was great tap tap tap tap tap yes it was tap tap tap it was maybe sometimes it's like that's the problem it's the great boyfriend great boyfriend

Ana Godinaso yeah I think that's different because like that's in the world of fighting like she's a fighter and she's like yo go down like you know with some dignity like you're just like like I I guess um cuz she even said like if he

Brian Atlascame down if he went down like saying hey you then you know it would have been different I guess but look I think um somewhere deep in the lizard brain I

SophieI feel like you're going to lose attraction for a guy when when he's vulnerable I could see that I think I honestly felt way more when I finally got like I mean I only scratched the surface but when I finally got like a

Sophielittle bit of like what was really going on like deep down and like from I felt like more connected to him honestly like it did not turned me off at all like I was I felt like like he respected and

Brian Atlasfelt safe with me when he was telling me and like that made me feel good here I mean I I say this I think men don't often share their feelings because they end up just upset

Brian Atlastheir girlfriend or wife and they're left to console her on her feelings because of how his feelings made her

Juliafeel I've had that happen I don't know um I've had that happen too I think it's everyone doesn't matter woman or man here let me ask you guys a question if you think it's important for men to

Brian Atlasbe vulnerable um would let's say a guy approaches you he's maybe he's a little nervous bit shy

Brian Atlaswhatever um would you prefer that over a guy who just approaches you he's not being creepy but he's a little his eye contact isn't great he's kind of a little nervous a little shy a little

Brian Atlashesitation in his voice a little Shake in his voice would you prefer that or would you prefer a guy who just steps to you in a very confident way um eye

Jessicacontacts on point steady voice which do you prefer second confident yeah 100% guy coment kind of cute sometimes I like

JessicaShai come on no it's like my new thing like I do not like an outgoing boy that's how okay all right teach their own what about you I say confident I say

Brian Atlasshy okay I would say that's fine I think most women would prefer The Confident guy I mean how we how of it's like one of the biggest things women say they like in a guy is confidence right um I don't think there's a corresponding

Brian Atlasthing in men where we like we particularly care like I think it'd actually be more attractive if the girl was a little bashful or a little shy little tail tucked between the legs a

Brian Atlaslittle bit if she was approaching um and versus being like super mega confident um but wouldn't couldn't you make the argument that a guy approaching you in a kind of shy nervous way that's him being

Brian Atlasvulnerable again he's not being creepy but he's not stepping to you in a that confident way but that's being vulnerable is that being V vulnerable though is yeah cuz he's he's a little

Sashanervous he's a little scared he made the conscious choice to come and talk to you that's already confidence right there well it's right but I mean I gave you

Brian Atlastwo scenarios one where the guy is outwardly appears kind of nervous and shy about it versus the guy who's really confident that's so different than like already being in a relationship with

Brian Atlasthis person right it is different but like I think it it extends into the Rel like that same component extends into the relationship too I think obviously you want a guy to be confident in the

Sasharelationship too but like every you know like if they need to open a new vulnerable like um yeah I don't know I think it's an ego

Sashaboost for women when a guy is a little shy cuz it makes us feel like oh my God like you really like me huh you're shy you're shy around me I think most women

Brian Atlaswould probably be turned off if the guy was like that nervous women from own words say that they like confident men yeah I would say and just

Brian Atlaslook generally speaking if you want the highest success rate like The Confident guy is going to win out in most situations um women are more attracted to that

Brian Atlasso you I think you only want men to be vulnerable when it's convenient for for y'all no actually you want you want it on your terms yeah oh okay all right

Brian Atlasthere we go age I'm not lie right okay there's some consensus um let me see I'm trying to think if there's anything else um related related to the vulnerability thing let me get us caught up on a

Brian Atlascouple chats we have John G here can you ask the girls if guy owning a gun is a positive deal breaker or neutral also also would be cool to see Destiny far and Virgin Mary back on the show enjoyed the episodes with them before actually

Brian Atlaswe're going to have Virgin Mary on uh next week John G for T Sunday Tuesday so she's going to be uh pretty sure next week so she is finally coming back I like her episodes she brings Like A Different Twist yeah she's cool she yeah

Ellieoh you've seen them yeah I've seen like one to prepare okay which one did you watch the mic into the mic oh sorry um I'm trying to think of like which one it was without like being mean because I don't know what it's called doesn't

Brian Atlasmatter it's fine uh is there is this where I throw out the old don't hate the player hate the game remember that men sort girls into three groups nope strippers girls named Tiffany nurses

Brian Atlasgood for now or Fun Zone and wife potential elevate your game or invest in miamix word what grid one I'm yeah

Ellieexactly nope strippers girl's name Tiffany good for hour Tiffany is that a bad name it's kind of a red flag not going to lie oh really speaking of red flags isan like the name Emily it's

Sashalike isn't your name Emily Ellie oh sorry Ellie sorry I got it it's kind of s yeah yeah I feel like if a guy is named Chad that's a red flag is that the red

Sashaflag Chad Brad or Thad Chad Thad Thad what about Chaz oh God even worse Chaz Reinhold oh jeez Chaz

Brian Atlasall right we have Sean Evans good panel tonight Brian to the panel what qualities do you think men are of value actually look for in a woman he wants to commit to also Brian no state income tax in Texas yep America

Brian AtlasState uh we'll go around the table uh what qualities do you think men of value actually look for in a woman he wants to commit to we'll start with you go ahead

PortiaI think someone that kind of I don't know I would say just someone that equally benefit them as well like a

Maiagive and take um I think someone that is very helpful and cares for them a lot okay um

Jessicaprobably someone that has like Drive I don't know like ambition in life and like goals I would say honestly a low body count would probably number one that's a good

Sashaone men of value don't want women that have been ran through and I don't know maybe people disagree but I think that for him that's like a huge thing but

Sashaalso a woman who's going to respect him and ultimately obey him men of value want that based are you guys down to obey your

Sashaboyfriends you do you disagree I yeah what about be mive what do you think about that word in in what context oh okay A little I think a woman should be

Brian Atlassubmissive to her man okay well she's talking she's talking about BDSM sexually oh are we talking like are you a rope bunny what are we talking about

Sashahere well what was your what is what's your BDSM test.org score you can be sub your man no she knows what I'm talking about you can be submissive to your man like on the outside of your sexual

Sasharelationship but you can be the dominant one in the sexual relationship and it could work out are you telling us something here me huh huh are you a

Sashadominatrix in your marriage oh my God no I'm so boring okay I'm so boring okay well you said more dominant one so okay her eyes we're not talking about me

Sasharight now are you Dom in the bedroom no I think it's a push and pull I'm definitely not submissive though yeah I switchy mommy it depends on the night are you Dy

Brian Atlasmommy somebody here I need to look at my notes somebody here wanted to talk about pegging I'll look oh it was me oh god oh was that you okay oh we'll come back to

Brian Atlasthat um wait so qualities yes qualities oh she said obey it some yes I agree you should obey your husband okay maybe not

Sashaokay obey is like a very strong word but I feel like obey is like the word that men love to hear mhm do you call your husband master I don't call him Master

Brian Atlaswhat about sir I think sir is a good one no not sir I demand I demand you should try like just tonight just be like hey

Juliasir hey Master hey Master Hey sir he'll like it maybe I think he will okay cool yeah honestly might Julia uh your thoughts um well I've never actually met

Juliaa man or dated a man that feels that way um I don't know if it's the age difference but um that wants like someone exactly what you said pretty much that wants to like be submissive

Brian Atlasobey and like I've never met a man like that but um I think young men are probably still like M yeah coming into their own and they might not have yet

Juliahad the relationship or sexual experience to uh really be able to maneuver that kind of dynamic so yeah I think it's definitely different for each

Juliaman too but I think in general they want someone like that has interests and drive and is going to care for them what about you go yeah I definitely think Drive is a

Sophiereally big one also like good communication Drive yeah drive you you think that that's what men want in a

Sophiewoman I really you said Julia you said drive right drive yeah yeah and I okay men men don't want that let me tell we're talking a different men well I

Sashadon't want a guy who wants me to be like a I I don't want to be like a just stay at home like I want to but we're talking about men of value it's different like he asked about men of value we're

Sashatalking about men of value too men men of value men of value right wait where was the where was the CH men of value don't want women with ambition men of value want a woman who why would you want to love someone that doesn't like

Sashayou don't want them to have interests and like ambition because at the end of the day it's like they want to be they're they're King right King doesn't want to be trifled by the queen the

Sashaqueen is here to Aid the man and be by her and be by his side so it's not equal no it's never equal no it's not I mean yes it would be great if a woman has ambition has Drive does her own thing

Sashabut at the end of the day a man wants a woman to be submissive to him and if she doesn't have drive and if she is going to be a stay-home mom cook clean provide

Sashafor the family at the ultimately the man wants that that is what the man gravitates towards to that's what the man wants and I know it's I know it's weird and up to think I mean you

Sashaguys are so young and I know you don't agree with me but like as you get a little bit older and you realize the type of men that you're dealing with that's what the men want they want a stay-at-home wife they want a stay-at-home girlfriend well I'm down to

Juliabe at home like that's not a problem for me it's just I'm not going to like obey you and like I'm your little servant like oh no you okay servant is like a

Sashavery har I want them to support me too and like my interest and not I want them to view me as a person and a smart person oh yeah no I mean they will but it's like that push and pull right if you want them to provide everything for

Brian Atlasyou you're going to have to give some back if a man yeah wait but didn't earlier actually I'll come back to that but you said you you didn't want 50/50

Juliain a relationship like you wanted a guy to be provider pay for yeah okay so you want the guy to be the leader right in the relationship um I feel like if they're paying for and being the provider that doesn't necessarily mean

Brian Atlasthey're the leader I mean I mean there are men who are pay pigs I guess that there are definitely men who will be like provider simps and

Juliayou I want them to want that want want you want a man to be a pay Pig no I want them to love me so much that they want to provide for me well that but I feel

Brian Atlaslike there's in order for the I mean there's definitely women who like Dom in control relationships and the GU the provider in

Brian Atlasthose to me that's kind of pathetic but um I mean it's probably good for the girl for is it good for the woman I mean

Brian Atlasyou have more power I guess but I don't know if you're particularly satisfied with like a weak man but it's not like I'm not bringing anything on onto the table wait what's that it's not like I'm not bringing anything no but that's not

Brian Atlaswhat I'm saying but like it's kind of that's a guy being in his traditional gender rules pay like being a provider paying for dates but then you don't like my view is traditional gender roles

Brian Atlaswould dictate that when it comes to that I mean obviously this is like typically more so if you're married or in like a really long-term relationship the man is the head of the

Brian Atlashousehold so the man's the leader if you want the guy to be the provider shouldn't he be the leader you want you want you want to be the leader we're leading together that's

Julianot you together but you want him to pay for everything so you want a guy to so you just want to be taken care of but not really I want to take care of him too like I mean I'm not saying they're

Juliapaying for everything I'm just saying that they are the financial leader yeah they could be the financial leader so Financial leader I feel like the key word is leader you know I mean you just want him to lead financially but not in other areas like how do you want your

Brian Atlasman to like lead but like hey you can't lead in any of these areas you got to pay for and you probably also I assume you probably also want the guy to make the first move ask you out on the

Brian Atlasdate go for the first kiss move things forward physically from there um take initiative make decisions like I I mean I could be wrong maybe you're you're

Brian Atlastotally fine I don't know I feel like there's definitely a lot of girls who don't know what they want to eat for dinner so it's sometimes I just want my man to tell me okay yeah okay I can get behind yeah I don't want I don't want

Sophiethem to be like well what do you want do like like I want them to be like we're doing this like get ready we'll be ready by this time you know like I don't want them to be like oh where do you want to eat like and then go back and forth forever like

Brian AtlasI want them to take that kind of initiative like right yeah okay but you were you guys were saying that something that a a man of value would want is

Brian Atlasyour drive drive and ambition but like career-wise but here's the thing like don't care about that men don't really care it's not that we don't care it just

Brian Atlasit doesn't make you more attractive okay then take that off that list for most men your career even if you're hyper successful that's wonderful that's that's really great for you but it

Brian Atlasdoesn't make you more attractive as a partner also we don't really reap any benefits from your success because I mean you said your uh ambition what was

Brian Atlasthe other term sorry it's blanking on me the am not ambition but drive drive yeah um you said you want a guy to pay for first date so oftentimes even if a woman makes a lot of money she doesn't even

Brian Atlaswant to equally contribute to the start of the relationship and pay for dates pay for first dates so why do men not care about your drive and ambition because quite frankly we don't reap any benefits because women typically don't

Brian Atlasshare their resources with men the same way that men share their resources with women you only care about things that benefit you well I mean we're all selfish to some

Brian Atlasdegree but like you're the when it comes to the money component why should I care like it's not really a factor in our relationship like the fact that you make good money is great for you but if

Brian Atlasyou're still expecting me to pay for the first date why should I care about how much money you make especially early on in a relationship can I play Devil's Advocate real quick sure absolutely but

Sashalet's put a scenario right so like you said you don't care about how much money a woman makes in a relationship you're taking care of her but if that woman doesn't have any drive and ambition and

Sashayou get in a tight spot where now you're not making enough money to provide for the both of you aren't you going to be a little upset at your woman for not having that drive and ambition to have her own money in the way or let's say

Sashayou're providing everything and now she's kind of like LAX right maybe she doesn't take care of herself as much maybe the house isn't always clean and you're like where did your drive and ambition go when we first got together

Sashawhere you doled up every day you took care of the house cleaned I don't like well I mean I don't like women who wear a lot of makeup so yeah yeah I mean to each their own right like totally understandable to each their own I I

Sashamean good she doesn't dll up awesome okay but let's replace that with something else I don't I don't need my girl to paint her face okay but so okay I I'm but pling Devil's Advocate to the

Brian Atlassense of like okay now you're in a bind you're in a tight spot financial bind never never it won't happen I'm that am that confident in myself that I will never be in a financial Bond ever are

Ana Godinayou even into like the traditional role of like taking care of like a woman 100% cuz you kep making jokes about like oh well like she needs to take care of me the first dat I don't think you really want to take care of someone 100% you

Brian Atlaswell let me just answer your thing really quick I mean again perhaps some catastrophic thing happens but I feel

Brian Atlaslike I am I'm so capable and I am so uh what's the the term uh

Brian Atlasresourceful no it's not that um I don't I don't think for me I I think financially I'm I'm going to be okay okay now like I could why I don't

Sashaknow why she gave me air and I believe you I believe you that financially you will be okay long term 100% like this is so successful this podcast is so successful absolutely and you have other endeavors but now let's take it to the

Sashapoint where like you're just kind of sick of your girl just not doing anything are you gonna throw it in her face like I pay for everything and you don't you don't do where's your dive where's your ambition to like do

Brian Atlassomething do what are you saying are you saying well oh well that I mean okay if I'm paying so you're talking like if we're in a traditional thing where I'm paying I'm taking care of everything well I mean she should probably hold up

Brian Atlasher end of right the arrangements or you're saying if she just got lazy and stopped doing that yeah that drive that drive and ambition that she once had kind of went away Drive well there's drive and ambition for career and then

Sashathere's drive and ambition to fall into your traditional gender roles of taking care of the internal household but don't those go hand in hand what if she just kind of like is laxed to the fact that like in general just across the board

Brian Atlasshe's just a lazy person I mean obviously look as a woman you need to if you're single you're going to have to be working in some capacity to provide for yourself Pro you know food housing Etc but um what if she just wants to stay in

Brian Atlasbed all day and just kind of chill and hang out and watch Netflix she has no Drive often times when we're talking about these terms drive and ambition we're we're talking about it from an economic Financial career perspective we

Sashacould be or we could be talking about it in the fact of like okay she gets up she starts her day she does her workout she goes to her yoga she wants to go to a

Brian Atlasclass and better herro yoga is a big red flag Acro what Acro yoga I don't know if you've seen those YouTube shorts these chicks be doing Acro no Acro yoga

Brian AtlasBig Red Flag regular regular yoga okay we'll keep it to regular Acro yoga no go red flag big red flag she had that ambition to be a better person you should be you should be a motivated

Brian Atlasindividual but like a woman's ambition drive and motivation when it comes to becoming a boss babe and making a ton of money that isn't really an attraction trigger for most men I don't think we really care all that much okay it

Sashadoesn't make you more attractive even if you like does it take away a woman's status doesn't it's like we don't care do you feel emasculated if your partner makes more money than you no I mean I'd be

Brian Atlasfine in a scenario like that I think most women would it's it more so probably fall on the woman mhm because I think most women want to date a guy who's on their level or

Brian Atlashigher like us men we would date a if we're millionaires we'll date a girl who works at Chick-fil-A don't give a f as long as she's a good person and she's physically attractive don't give a do

Brian Atlasnot care about your job obviously we don't want somebody who's like destitute and broke and like really irresponsible

Brian Atlaswith money that's bad too um if you have a ton of debt that's not ideal but like we'll date a girl who's works at Chick-fil-A don't give a a lawyer

Brian Atlaswill date a girl a doctor will date a girl who works a fast food job who's a barista it's you've got an experience right you probably got I don't know maybe you've been I know you said you

Brian Atlaslike probably guys more so in your age group or maybe I'm assuming there but I mean have you ever been hit on by like a

Sashahyper successful dude like doctor turny maybe on hinge David the roles would never be reversed though women aren't going to like a high like a successful woman is not going to date a

Brian Atlasguy that's working at Chick-fil-A exactly like a woman who's exactly a woman who attorney would not date I I mean I remember when I was a bit younger I matched with a woman who's a litigation attorney on uh Bumble I think

Brian Atlasit was she was making probably 200 $300,000 a year uh in her bio she said even because of my career I still want chivalry and the guy to pay for the

Brian Atlasfirst date and I was like oh you make $200,000 a year like I mean I kind of get it right but it it I think for women it kind of as you become more successful financially it does start to shrink your

Brian Atlaspool of potential Partners if your standard is is not necessarily but if you if you want to date a guy who's on your level and above if you get into the 1% career-wise that you limit your pool whereas as men get more as men make more

Brian Atlasmoney it actually tends to open up their pool of potential Partners yeah so yeah yeah cuz men will will could be Barista we don't we could

Ana Godinawe could be a making seven figures a year and does not matter but I also think it depends on what kind of man we're talking about I mean I mean how you're saying you're financially you know like stable but I

Ana Godinathink for most middle class lower class men I mean it probably is going to matter you know what your girl is doing you'd probably want a woman with a little bit more ambition because you can't financially afford to you know

Brian Atlashave her work sure I see what you're saying I would say the economic reality of for the vast majority of people just it's a reality for most to be able to afford rent to be able to raise kids uh

Brian Atlasmost people are going to need a dual income household however what I would say to that is I don't even for that guy who's middle class low uh what is it middle class

Brian Atlaswhatever um he probably like if he meets a girl that he really likes and she makes less than him Pro like she's a barista and she's hot and she is Pleasant feminine

Brian Atlaswhatever it is he's probably like I think for men it's not going to be an immediate disqualifier like whereas you as a woman if you're looking for a

Brian Atlashusband the guy who's working a minimum wage job is like that's from the gecko is probably not going to do it for you I know a lot of you guys are a bit on the younger side you're probably not overly

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