01:51:50TTS ReaderMotorsports donated $100 if you are in a relationship stop acting like you are single and do not hang out with single friends both are
01:52:00Ana Godinatoxic to healthy relationships I highly disagree with that highly disagree with that well I I think some single friends because I do like some single friends like I will say like we recently have gotten closer but when I've hung out
01:52:13Ana Godinawith my single friends yo some of those girls are wild and now and I'm like not even just saying this I'm like a lot more chill than more people but like yo some single girls are they're crazy like they're almost R than men
01:52:25Brian Atlasespecially because we have so many more options I mean a lot of single friends want their friend back yeah no exactly I agree yes no but if they I think some of them if they're can't party with us
01:52:37Sashaanymore it's like they're she they're going to start talking about your partner no absolutely not I feel like not not all the time but no but if they're your true friends they're going to respect you and they're going to respect your relationship and they're
01:52:49Sashagoing to respect your partner and if you're in a good friendship they're not going to put you in that position because friends but but your party ho friends they want you to go out a party
01:53:02Brian Atlasfor me I have distanced myself from Party friend yeah you're you don't have friends like that I don't feel I I don't have friends at all we like the the other issue though is if you're like
01:53:14Brian Atlashanging out with your single friends like you're going to get a bit of the grasses green on the other side you're going to get Yol uh not YOLO uh fomo fomo thank you fear of missing out oh
01:53:25Brian Atlasthey're telling you about all these crazy fun adventures they're going on all the C people they're hooking up with whatever you're going to be like it's going to be a little thing in the
01:53:34Sashaback of your head like is that fun no I don't think that fun no I I feel bad for my like friends like acquaintances that are like oh yeah I hooked up with this dude on Wednesday yeah I went out with
01:53:46Brian Atlasthis other dude on Thursday I'm like you're giving yourself so much to these people sure it I just I don't know it's not yeah uh let's get back to Sophie so
01:53:55Brian AtlasI forgot exactly what uh what was the conversation thread before the TTS um are guys insec insecure no I think I
01:54:06Brian Atlaswas tell me if this is what I was asking do you think it's unreasonable for a guy to not what was it do you remember I was I was like about to
01:54:19Sophiefinish my question question um no you didn't you just asked me what my input was on this whole situation I was I would yeah you were talking about
01:54:28TTS Readeryou were about to say like oh I want to be in a Clos relationship but now this means my God One Motorsports donated I got it disagree all you want I
01:54:41TTS Readerhave been married 17 years and have watched a lot of stupid toxic crap from toxic single friends torpedoing married friends I do not of female friends my
01:54:51Sashawife does not have male friends neither of us have single friends okay I mean One Motorsports thank you man I feel like we didn't talk about women having male friends
01:55:03Sashaand definitely women friends I feel like we just talked about the fact that like you can have a single friend and still be okay now does that you said you know you've watched it torpedo into other
01:55:14Brian Atlasmarriages maybe the marriage was the problem maybe it wasn't super secure yeah I don't know maybe maybe maybe maybe the guy didn't outline boundaries
01:55:25Brian Atlasthat would have protected the relationship such don't be going out to bars clubs and parties and hanging out with your single friends that could have been a thing I do think people have like willpower sometimes up to a certain like limit I don't know I think like hey you
01:55:39Ana Godinacan be strong and I'm not going to do this but if you're constantly you're going out every single night as a woman you're constantly being approached by these guys like hey I want to take care of you hey I want to do this I want to do that I think maybe as a woman you could break down and I forgot if it was
01:55:50Brian Atlasyou or you who mentioned respect was it I mention I think men care a lot about respect even if I trusted my girl and she would never get with another guy like if she was just at a party and she
01:56:02Brian Atlasgot a little too drunk and was like sloppy at a party and like other people I know saw her in that way that reflects poorly on me and then if she was like
01:56:13Brian Atlastwerking or some at a party that looks bad on me yeah so even if she's not hooking up with some other dude it's just like i' in my
01:56:25Brian Atlasview and people have different standards on this that is behavior Unbecoming of a girlfriend or wife um but so Sophie uh
01:56:36Sashawait give me give me a little mental boost here what what was so you were talking about you're want to close the relationship but now you're going to be setting forth yeah so you guys so you guys want uh commitment from this guy
01:56:49Brian Atlasguy you really like him you want to be monogamous and he says I'm prepared to be monogamous with you I'm prepared to be in a relationship with you but I don't want you going out partying
01:57:00Brian Atlasdrinking going to clubs going to bars nightclubs Etc do you accept that or do you say you're not going to tell me what to
01:57:08Sophiedo um I guess it depends I mean when when I was in my monogamous relationship I really didn't feel the need to go out and do all that stuff most of the time I
01:57:20Sophiewas like super content and happy doing what I was doing with him and um the nights that I occasionally did go out I wasn't you know doing crazy or I
01:57:32Sophiewas really just with like my close sck girls and I wasn't going off and I was honestly texting him like the whole night being like I kind of want to leave anyway um yeah it sucks it
01:57:41Brian Atlasreally like I think if you like if you peel back the layer is it really that I don't know maybe I'm a a better time being with him and doing and
01:57:52Sophieyou know than going out and I I mean I had like some fun nights just in my apartment like wine nights with my roomates but that was really the extent of sure what I was doing when I was in a
01:58:03Brian Atlasrelationship what about you I mean at I mean I get like both sides of it honestly but at the same time but you guys were pretty strong in the it's insecure he doesn't have trust in you Bo
01:58:16Brian AtlasI know that maybe there's a little more people on the other side of the table but don't feel compelled to walk back your position just because there's people at the table that disagree with you stand firm in your beliefs Like a
01:58:29Ana GodinaRock we're still going to be friends after this okay don't worry the waves are crashing against the Rocky pro I will say I think my abew have changed from when I was 21 to when I'm 28 I probably thought more so like it's
01:58:41Ellieinsecure I want to party and you know but do you think it's like insecure if a guy I mean I think yeah no I feel like it's like a insecure issue he doesn't trust you thing like I'm not saying
01:58:52Brian Atlasthat's always the case but like okay I feel like a lot of the time it can be insec and then Julia I think you had the strongest position on this what about you you think again doesn't have trust in you he's insecure I think it really
01:59:04Juliadepends on the relationship I think some people it's trust some people it's just their values um and and have you ever met a guy because you said that your two-year sorry to cut you off there but
01:59:15Brian Atlasyour two-year relationship you wanted it to be open have you ever met a guy that's so amazing that you like I want this guy all to myself I want to be just
01:59:26Juliawith him have you ever met a guy like that um I haven't but um I know that when I I know that I probably will one day and I will not want an open relationship with them um I think a lot
01:59:39Juliaof the reason why it was open was just cuz we were young um and I wasn't looking for anything serious um but I don't know I feel like sometimes I just want to go out and and I want to dance
01:59:49Juliato EDM and it just it has nothing to do with wanting to hook up with anyone or getting really drunk like I just kind of want to have a little fun and I think um
02:00:00Brian Atlasthat's pretty understanding but I think other people definitely have different intentions okay um um and where did you fall again on this were you kind of more so like eh it should be fine to in a
02:00:12Brian Atlasrelationship to just I should be able to go out and party like you're inse like it's kind of insecure no trust play by ear based off the person like I'd like examine like the situation and how that
02:00:25Jessicaperson acts around like other people and they're going out like uh there should be no way that I'm not allowed to go out but like if they're staying in like I'm all down for staying in like okay I see yeah I just think it's like almost like equality between the two like if they're
02:00:38Jessicalike out partying and they're like oh you can't go out because that's kind of like how my last relationship was I think that's like a red flag and a Bad Thing versus like if he's not going out like why should I sure
02:00:49Brian Atlasme personally I I don't really drink occasionally I'll have like a glass of wine but I rarely drink um I don't go to bars I don't go to clubs I don't party
02:01:00Brian Atlasum not my thing so for me it certainly would be almost extending into a commonality thing like I don't think I would have a lot in common with somebody you parties super frequently and because
02:01:11Brian AtlasI'm staying in I certainly wouldn't want uh my partner going out but when it comes to kind of and I think what you're trying to point out is it would be a bit hypoc critical if a guy was going out but didn't want his girlfriend going out
02:01:22Brian AtlasI do think there first off I don't know again I'm kind of cranky I guess on this front but I don't see the point in going
02:01:31Brian Atlasout and partying it's kind of to me it's just like waste of time but um but uh I do think it's different between men and women because the tension that uh women
02:01:42Brian Atlasget when they go out it's very different true um and I have a tweet here that I I love to share that's related to this uh I'm going to shout out ldg I can't say your name because it's kind of little
02:01:52Brian Atlasdgame okay um so so the difference between men and women when it comes to this whole like Club going out partying thing going to bars whatever is that and this also kind
02:02:04Brian Atlasof relates to Instagram and like posting thirst straps and and why men tend to get upset about this perhaps the corresponding thing would be like men
02:02:11Brian Atlasliking Instagram photos um so women run passive game so women don't approach men really you just put yourselves in
02:02:23Brian Atlaspositions where you can be approached by men so you go to Club you go to the bar you go to the party you're not going to DM a guy you'll post a picture to kind
02:02:33Brian Atlasof elicit men to DM you so men are salesmen women are marketers um and essentially in a committed relationship a man should stop pitching so going up
02:02:44Brian Atlasto girls sending DMS and a woman should stop advertising so advertising would be putting yourself in positions where you can be approached because we both run different games
02:02:57Brian Atlaswomen aren't out there like approaching like 10 20 dudes in a night they're not sending DMS to a bunch of people men are men are going to approach girls women
02:03:07Brian Atlasdon't really do that so uh there there is a differential there uh women in relationships never give up their Edge women don't I mean some do
02:03:19Brian Atlasbut like if by you continuing to go out to bars clubs and parties you're still putting yourself out there so that's often the often times
02:03:30Brian Atlaswhy women will find replacements really quick because you actually like were you were generating leads the whole time like almost building like a roster
02:03:41Jessicawhile you were still in a relationship like couple people in the database so I think uh see that's where the whole like thing comes in where if they're going out then they're still like marketing and then you're still allowed to advertise and if they're staying in then
02:03:54Brian Atlassure stay in well but but the difference is though is that we both agree that it would be wrong for the guy to go up to girls and hit on them but you as women you aren't really going up to guys and
02:04:07Brian Atlashitting on men so like for example the difference the difference between us like me and Rhino we could go to a nightclub and just go to the bar hang out somewhere I don't know sit down
02:04:18Brian Atlassomewhere wherever it may be there's no girls even if we're in relationships even if we're single no girls are coming to talk to us no girls are approaching
02:04:26Brian Atlasus whereas for you if you guys go out to party go out to a club go out to a bar you're going to get flirted with you're going to get hit on but that's not our fault yeah it's just the way you respond to it though okay but I will also say
02:04:39Ana Godinalike even though I am pretty like okay against that like as a man you probably wouldn't want to go somewhere that there wasn't woman women around even if you are in a relationship like what do you mean like you wouldn't go to an all male
02:04:50Ana Godinabar like women are still in the atmosphere like I know there are like tables that we have sometimes Bachelor tables and they are still some good guys but they're just like hey we just want to hang out with girls like it's still
02:05:01Ana Godinajust kind of like the chase like it could potentially happen you would not go to an all male bar even if you're in a relationship but most
02:05:10Ana Godinawomen most women don't go to all female bars I would I would love to go to like all female parties yeah think there's definitely a component of like going out there are a lot of women who don't like being bothered by men when they go out I
02:05:23Brian Atlaswill I will say that I think some women a large portion of women like the attention from yeah there's some definely even if you reject them it's kind of a you're receiving validation
02:05:34Ana Godinaeven if you like brutally reject I think even men too I mean you could even just have like a you know just a friendly kind of flirty conversation and nothing comes of it even if you have like a girlfriend like okay like I had this fun
02:05:46Brian Atlaslittle interaction and that's it I think both sexes kind of can you know sure question for you three um would you feel like let's say you're in a relationship with a guy would you be opposed to him
02:05:57Brian Atlasgoing to the strip club a couple times a week it depends the strip club strip club yeah why would he I feel like that's kind of like the close it's not it's still I think not as bad as going
02:06:10Brian Atlasto the clubs and bars and parties because the strippers there's no way the strippers are going to sleep with them but he asked me to go I actually have a I was thinking of something I
02:06:25Brian Atlasdon't so would you have an issue with him going to the strip club once a week dat I wouldn't date a guy that would do that why I just you don't have trust going to a strip club that's strictly they're like lusting over other girls
02:06:38Brian Atlasthat's the point of that though no they're just like going to hang out with their boys and like good time why can't they go why can't well I can make the same argument why not just stay home with your girl girlfriends and just have
02:06:49Brian Atlasa quiet like a drink inside strip club is so different than just like a bar like it's just girl like naked but those girls those girls see the dudes that go the strip club as marks they would never any of those dudes that's not true
02:07:02Brian Atlaswhere true that's not true we live in Vegas yeah some strippers would some of those guys yeah but like most strippers like would not like they they they hold the customers in contempt
02:07:13Brian Atlasalmost they almost view them in like sure they might like whatever but most of them view them like the these guys are dorks yeah but but the reason that a guy is going to a strip club is to look at other women no it's just for
02:07:24Brian Atlasthe Bro the chicken wings or whatever the then go to freaking like Wing Stop or something oh why can't you just like have a quiet night in with your girlfriends instead of like going to a party where you know you're going to get hit on I think just a strip club in
02:07:37Sophiegeneral is just so different from any other like bar how about this that's such a different that's like us going to yeah like okay let me I'm going try back you up here okay give me yeah I I was saying
02:07:48Ryan (Rhino)say so if you guys had boyfriends and then your guy says hey babe I'm going to go to a party it's a house party it's a bunch of prawn stars and they they all
02:07:58Ryan (Rhino)want to have they all want to have sex with me um some of them have like ruies in their pockets but like I'm going to like try to avoid it how would you feel about that I'm going to like your man
02:08:10Ryan (Rhino)wants to go to a party with a bunch of some cute some not so cute prawn stars and they all want to have sex with him how comfortable would you feel with him going to that party if they want to
02:08:20Ryan (Rhino)have sex with him then obviously if he wants to go he wants to have sex so that's the equivalent of when a girl's at the bar no I a lot of y'all but you
02:08:31Ryan (Rhino)the men are not porn stars wanting to have sex Central that's not the central argument that's not the central point it's basically just if y'all went to the club and started asking each guy hey would you be down to have sex with me a
02:08:44Ryan (Rhino)large majority of the men at the bar are going to say we can run that we can leave right now why would I ask that well well I don't think you would but um that's the equivalent of of you're at a place where everyone there would have
02:08:55Ryan (Rhino)sex with you and wants to and wants to and there's also dangerous creeps that are willing to like put some in your drink whatever so what would happen if your man was at a place where everyone wanted to have sex with him you would hate that but if I don't want my girl to
02:09:09Ryan (Rhino)be at a place where I know everyone wants to have sex with her I'm a bad guy who's like insecure so I was trying to make a little equivalent there but and just to add on top of that in addition
02:09:19Brian Atlasto just like let's say we do 100% trust you right maybe we don't trust like he was saying the other people in that bar so that's just us we we just want to
02:09:30Brian Atlasprotect you like we want to protect you because I mean I'm sure you guys like some maybe you guys have been out and some guy was kind of like he said something kind of mean to you or maybe he was even grabby like we want to
02:09:42Brian Atlasprotect you from those situations we don't want you like guys when you know there's some some bad guys when they're drunk they're going to want to like they might try to grab your ass on the sly or
02:09:52Brian Atlassome we don't want you to deal with that and uh and in these types of environments you got a bunch of dudes they're drunk it's tight quarters like uh and uh in these types
02:10:04Ryan (Rhino)of environments sometimes you know we we want to protect you have y'all ever been have you ever heard of someone going to a party club and getting drugged yeah do you know someone that
02:10:15Ryan (Rhino)that's happened to yeah have yall ever been touch inappropriately at a club or party no yeah yeah so it's like but then y'all but then when I say don't go to a party it's like you're the worst like
02:10:28Ryan (Rhino)but that's the man's fault the man I agree it's the man's fault for touching you and Roofing you agreed but then you're actively going to a place where uh you can put yourself in that position you can put yourself in that position so
02:10:39Brian AtlasI it's like for I related to that really quick it's there's dangerous parts of town right you in in the ideal world you should be able to just walk through a
02:10:50Brian Atlasdangerous part of town at 2 a.m. and nobody it's the other person's fault like should anyone hurt you no but the reality of the situation is being pragmatic being
02:11:01Brian Atlaspractical if you put your like if you put your again it shouldn't happen to you but if if I walk into a war zone or something like to make a extreme case
02:11:11Ryan (Rhino)here I shouldn't be surprised if I like catch some shrapnel or get you know so yeah I was going to say that men tend to view women that they like or love almost like a like a diamond or like a
02:11:24Ryan (Rhino)expensive car so if you had a very expensive diamond are you going to like leave it outside your house and like just kind of let it go wherever and if it's in the wash whatever no you're going to keep it in a display case and
02:11:37Ryan (Rhino)you're not going to want anything touching it and it's like Don't Go Near the display case don't do that so that's how or like if you do a comparison to like a Lamborghini men if you own a Lamborghini would you park it in the
02:11:49Ryan (Rhino)hood even if the Lamborghini had the best locking mechanism and bulletproof windows are you going to park it in Skid Row or are you going to like keep it in your driveway keep it in the garage and polish it and Shine the wheels and take
02:12:01Ryan (Rhino)pictures of it and take it out for a spin on your own time like that's what that's how men kind of view women that they value they want to keep them protected as opposed like if you had a guy that would let you like wanted you
02:12:13Ryan (Rhino)to go out yeah babe do your thing I'd almost be worried that he didn't even like you that much but that's from that's from like a man's perspective but I don't think women tend to think of the man's perspective it looked like you just had a light bulb there yeah like
02:12:26Elliehearing like your opinion on that just kind of like opened sorry just kind of opened it up like a lot more like I kind of like maybe had an idea of what like the other side of it was like but like yeah he actually put that really well
02:12:37Ryan (Rhino)like appreciate that yeah I just always hear that argument all the time and it it doesn't come from a bad place from guys it's like my ex was controlling but
02:12:48Ryan (Rhino)that's men want to control control things that they like and things that they value so yeah the same way if I gave you something valuable you're not going to just let it roll around and go
02:12:59Sashaup wherever and all that stuff so yeah I think but it's in a man's nature to protect his woman it's like that's what it is masculine instincts yes and we
02:13:10Sashashouldn't be mad at you guys for doing that we should be praising you for doing that yeah or no or I agree am I wrong no I just I would date a I probably
02:13:21Brian Atlaswouldn't even want to date a girl who even had the even if she was single who was put like that's just a mismatch of yeah to begin with but um like yeah if
02:13:33Brian Atlasshe wanted to continue while we were in a relationship continue going out partying clubbing whatever okay like I'm just I'm either never going to take you seriously and I'll just keep you
02:13:45Brian Atlasin sex territory and never commit to you you'll never get commitment from me or I'll just I'm not interested at all and I'll go find a girl who's better suited to be in a relationship so yeah if she
02:13:57Ana Godinagoes out parties clubs and bars red flag done yeah sorry Julia but uh that was probably your man's mistake like I think just getting with a girl who does that not saying there's anything wrong with what you're doing but like he didn't like he didn't want his girl to go out
02:14:10Julialike he shouldn't have got with a girl she wants to do it she can do it but you know I just think I do understand your point of view but I do think for me in
02:14:21Juliarelationships I think I'm my own person and you're your own person and I think that there shouldn't be any control over what I want to do or what they want to do but if you do have a problem with me
02:14:32Juliagoing out or you or you see me going out and you see that I'm doing something that is a little like flirting with anyone or anything like that that's when I like that's where I feel like the line should be drawn and that does make sense
02:14:45Brian Atlasbut I mean you say you're you're your own person and when you're in a relationship there shouldn't be any but I mean it's when you guys sit down and have a conversation obviously you start
02:14:57Brian Atlaslimiting your own behavior once you get into a serious relationship for example what was once acceptable when you were single May no longer be acceptable once you're in a relationship for example
02:15:07Brian Atlasother people I think that is it controlling for your partner to not want you to sleep with other people no but it's just a give and not to yeah but shouldn't it I think it should just be a
02:15:17Brian Atlasgiven to not I mean exactly not put yourself not go to bars and clubs and parties when you're in a serious long-term relationship you got to remember the age Gap here though right
02:15:29Juliadifferent generation I'm not I feel like I'm not going to be going out probably in like a year or two honestly you also haven't out yeah I'm getting it out of my system you also haven't met a person
02:15:39Sophiewhere you like really like loved them and you you know you didn't feel that way about him so it's it's so different different what about this for for you
02:15:50Brian Atlasthree um what do you feel about your boyfriend watching porn oh I don't really care don't care okay so why is that different than him going to the strip
02:16:00Jessicaclub because it's like at his fingertips like almost there no but you trust your man right don't you I don't know it wouldn't bother me too much but I would
02:16:10Sophiebe like I mean I if he was just going for like well I don't know he just men are visual ever been like let's go he go with him yeah he was like go with me but but that was the only time it was like
02:16:22TTS Readerever brought up he didn't ever want to like grid one Motor Sports donated $100 I am my own person/ he is his own
02:16:31TTS Readerperson BS that is not a relationship it's cohabitation at best a relationship is best made when both commit to each
02:16:39Brian Atlasother and there is more us and less I 100% agree with you facts facts facts yeah um it's okay Julia we still love
02:16:49Sophieyou um but uh Sophie I think you were making a point oh um yeah I I really never had to deal with I never had
02:17:00Sophieissues regarding you know that I don't know yeah he he was sober so I never I I don't I've never been in that situation where I've had to deal with that sure
02:17:13Brian Atlasokay all right I mean my personal view is um when it comes to your girlfriend going to bars clubs parties whatever uh me personally that's that's a deal breaker I just don't think as a guy you
02:17:24Brian Atlasshould be in a serious relationship with a woman who doesn't realize the importance of limiting their own behavior to protect the relationship I think if you respect your partner you don't engage in activities which are
02:17:35Brian Atlasessentially designed for single people and I guess we can try to dance around it all we want but I believe that bars clubs and House Parties whatever are very specific social gatherings I think
02:17:46Brian Atlasthey're typically for single people um because when you go to like bro I I used I I've been to these parties when I was younger I it wasn't really my thing but I I went to them a little bit bro people
02:17:59Brian Atlasbe like be getting finger blasted in the middle of the party yeah I saw that all the time like some frat party whatever some girl meets a guy within five minutes she's him in
02:18:11Brian Atlasthe bathroom like I've seen this play out you could and people would be like well you don't let your girl no like if your girlfriend goes to Trader Joe's it's not about she can't go outside but like I don't know I don't
02:18:23Brian Atlasthink in the history of Trader Joe's anybody met at their Trader Joe's and then five minutes later finger blasting was happening I don't think it's been a thing you know it's cool go to tjs go to Trader go to Trad Jo tra Jo bab yeah
02:18:36Brian Atlasultimately though I do think at the end of the day these boundaries remain totally reasonable dating standard for commitment minded men and I do think it acts as a great filter against inde
02:18:47Brian Atlasdependent women who think they can ho around while having a stable dude as a safety net just saying just just saying you know what I'm saying do you agree R now yeah
02:18:58Brian AtlasI mean yeah you kind of said it all there so I agree with you oh know like what I guess what some people call insecure or controlling I just call having boundaries so it's also just I
02:19:10Ryan (Rhino)can understand why it feels good to be cuz I've never been a woman before but I could only imagine someone coming one time a girl offered to like buy me something and I was like I've never
02:19:22Ryan (Rhino)forgot that moment for the rest like for the rest of my whole life and this happened like two years ago and she's like I'd be willing to like get you coffee and I was like and she wasn't even really cute at all but I was like I
02:19:34Ryan (Rhino)was like let's do it like hell yeah so but thinking about if imagine if I had that everywhere I went every party I went someone wanted to buy me something and someone wanted to talk to me and I I have like I'm not trying to be a flex
02:19:47Ryan (Rhino)here but I have like 10 million followers on YouTube and all Instagram and everything and I don't even get that level of and it won't no like no one's trying to buy me so if I was constantly going to places where
02:19:58Ryan (Rhino)everyone wanted to talk to me and buy me stuff and compliment me I'd be there every damn night so I can understand why girls like going out and like going to parties but I guess you got to you got
02:20:09Ana Godinato give things up if you want the benefits that come with a boyfriend or a partner mhm do you think it also depends on on the type of woman you know you're with cuz I do think some women can be a
02:20:21Ana Godinalittle bit more influenced you know with like the attention that they're getting from some men but like for example me and her we'll go to Universal and like a guy is coming up to us and she's like I literally like she she's like getting
02:20:33Ana Godinaaway from me like I don't you know what I mean so I think there's some women where it's like they're not into it like would you be okay with if you had a woman that was like Hey I'm I don't even like men I barely like you you know what
02:20:43Ryan (Rhino)I mean like would you be okay with her going out more um I tend to gravitate towards women who have other interests like can you rephrase that
02:20:54Ana Godinaagain there your question I don't know if I I I do think I do think there are some women who you know when being approached with men they're like oh my God like all this attention like I love it so much and
02:21:06Ana Godinathen I think there's a different kind of woman who's like H like these men I don't even want to deal with it like would it depend on the woman you know as opposed to a woman who likes attention a lot more and another woman who's like I'm not really into it but yo I just
02:21:18Ryan (Rhino)want to go party with my girls yeah cuz I've had situations where okay the girl I like and we get along and she has great values and isn't an attention seeker validation type of girl yeah but yeah if she's going to a function or
02:21:29Ryan (Rhino)something I would feel far more comfortable and I'm not going to have my panties in a bunch because she's out doing something see that's more of what I was talking about but you know sometimes you just you never want to
02:21:43Ryan (Rhino)have the girl be in that position where something could happen but yeah I completely agree with you up where the girl has to be the type of girl who doesn't like the validation
02:21:54Brian Atlaslike I need a girl with no Instagram pictures nothing like no Instagram I mean that's proba that's not going to happen but yeah all right let me get a couple chats and we have olly here yo Brian here is 100 dude thank you man so
02:22:06Brian Atlasmuch really appreciate it you have a powerful platform so use it wisely understand that it's a matter of choice choose a partner who makes decisions
02:22:15Brian Atlasthat align with yours and make good decisions yourself boom I agree Olie 86 good job Ollie go Ollie boom what do you
02:22:26Sophieagree with um the general sentiment yeah choose a partner who makes decisions that align with yours I mean word yeah theine part's important like it was really not hard for me to change my lifestyle because I was like so in love
02:22:40Brian Atlaswith that I really just did didn't matter to me got it yo olly thank you very much man appreciate it we have grid One Motorsports here I'm from Tennessee been all over the world even live at Tahoe owned a house in the SF Bay Area
02:22:52Brian Atlasthere is nowhere better than the South Brian you should move the show to Nashville also I'm not a redneck I am a Tennessee hilljack okay uh moving the show to Nashville probably no not
02:23:05Brian AtlasNashville I've considered moving either to uh Vegas or Florida because there's no income TA or state income tax um I don't know I I grew up in California I
02:23:16Brian Atlaslike California I like Santa Barbara so we'll see state income tax is pretty brutal though so um have you ever been to the South just out of curiosity
02:23:25Brian Atlasuh no I've been Florida is Florida the South well what about like the P pan handles the pan handles is kind of no but I was I was only in uh like the
02:23:35SashaMiami is area okay that's not the South really but uh come to Vegas dude yeah yeah Vegas it's not new La listen it is not all partying it is not all oh my God
02:23:47Brian Atlasyou got to go all the time like there's so much to do in Vegas I've been I've been to Vegas plenty of times I've worked there for a little bit but uh well for some G uh for some video gigs a
02:23:59Brian Atlaslong time ago um we have Fally in response to Motorsports comment and feel free to correct me if you're in a relationship having single friends is fine watch out for the friends who make it obvious they're jealous or annoyed of
02:24:10Brian Atlasthe relationship that's projecting not healthy good point there thank you very much man really appreciate it there Fally okay let's get into our pre-show notes that you guys were so kind oh we
02:24:22Brian Atlashave the thing to react to let's do that um this is a this is a doozy guys this is a good one Nick could you pull up that Reddit
02:24:33Brian Atlaspost nope um it's this it was like the second to last one that I showed
02:24:43Brian Atlasyou oh sorry it say oh that's weird yeah sometimes it's weird like that um can you scroll it out
02:24:52Brian Atlasone or actually yeah that's fine so this is posted to Reddit um I'm unsure if I should tell my boyfriend this information maybe actually let's have uh can I have you read this yeah cuz it's a woman so I figur it's better than a
02:25:06Ana Godinawoman's voice okay I'm un sure if I should tell my boyfriend this information I've recently gone official with the man I've been dating for a couple of months he's kind respectful and considerate I really think he could be the one but something is eating at me
02:25:17Ana GodinaI wanted to build slowly with this man but we didn't become intimate until after the until after going exclusive but between the first day and that point I did see an old FWB a couple of times o
02:25:30Ana Godinaback then I didn't think anything of it as I wasn't exclusive but I underestimated how much I could care for my boyfriend and I feel almost like I've cheated on him have I done something wrong do I need to tell him will he end
02:25:42Ana Godinathings with me update there was mixed reactions here but my got told me I should tell my boyfriend he said sorry I don't want to be in a relationship with someone who does that then he blocked me
02:25:53Brian Atlason everything oo rip okay tough luck yeah that's valid you up yeah so she was starting a DAT a guy she wanted to wait to have sex said wanted
02:26:05Brian Atlasto take it slow I guess she really liked this guy but while she was taking it slow with this guy she was hooking up having sex with like a friends Old
02:26:14Brian AtlasFriends with Benefits um so what do you guys think was she and also uh maybe we know she told us she gave us an update on the outcome it
02:26:26Brian Atlassounds like he ended up breaking up with her she told him um do you think she was wrong for doing what she
02:26:36Brian Atlasdid start actually maybe start that other way maybe we start this or but I want Rhino to go last on this probably so we'll start with her we'll start we
02:26:47Portiago this way yeah let's do that yeah I don't think what she did was necessarily right I think if you like someone you're like techn like you're going to be loyal to them like if you're going and like especially cuz she wasn't intimate with
02:26:59Maiahim but she was intimate with someone else I think is interesting um yeah I don't think what she did was right what about you um I agree I don't think what she did was right and she was the one who wanted to
02:27:11Maiatake things slow you said right she was the one yeah she wanted to take things slow yeah it was kind of like her personal opinion to take things slow but she's also like getting with someone at the same time so I just think that's
02:27:23Jessicavery disrespectful sure um I think what she did was wrong honestly at least from my like perspective like when I like actually like someone like my eyes literally cannot be turned and it's just like I
02:27:35Jessicacould even like see myself let alone do something like that with somebody else so I don't think she clearly liked him that much in the beginning to have done that with someone else yeah I agree I think what she did was absolutely wrong
02:27:47Sashaum they weren't in an open relationship though right that wasn't part of the text we didn't get any context from that they're just talking right they were
02:27:57Brian Atlasthey were not exclusive each other they started seeing each other um but it seemed like she had a she saw this guy as hey this is potential boyfriend long-term potential here seemed like she
02:28:09Brian Atlasreally liked him so she wanted to wait it's not it's not clear from the message if uh they had a overt uh conversation
02:28:20Sashaabout exclusivity but yeah I mean I still think but she did say I want to wait to have sex mhm so I think what she
02:28:31Sophiedid was wrong I'm like okay apply simple yeah Julia yeah I agree okay I agree but I feel like during the point where she did that she should have like
02:28:43Sophiecommunicated with him and had the conversation to be like hey like is this something like we're doing like are we able to see other people and since she didn't have that conversation I think it
02:28:53Elliewas wrong yeah no I agree I agree like partly with you but at the same time like if you care like about somebody enough to want to wait then they like what's the point of just going back to
02:29:04Ana Godinalike whatever that was you know right I don't know yeah she up yeah I think she probably wanted to like you know save a body you know so she was this other guy but like she up so okay yeah she's R the wrong
02:29:16Brian Atlasyeah definitely because I think at least I I feel like even though even though there was no actual I mean I'm assuming here there was no actual conversation that occurred like
02:29:26Brian Atlasright we're going to be exclusive during this period I think a lot of people think if there's if you're not exclusive that that just means anything goes but
02:29:37Brian Atlasuh I think if you tell a guy hey I want to wait to have sex he's probably going to assume you're not sleeping with yeah for sure sort of implied I mean
02:29:49Sophieyou're working towards the relationship definitely she's like Loop holing it on a technicality like well technically we weren't but uh I feel like they should have had more like a more in-depth conversation if that's something she wanted to do but I don't agree with she
02:30:02Ana Godinafound loophole she knew what the it was they were going to get into a relationship they weren't excl we weren't exclusive like no yeah she up she knew what she was doing yeah I I think the part that's obviously going to bother people the most in this
02:30:13Brian Atlassituation in this situation is that she said she wanted to build slowly and not rush into anything exact and therefore held off on sexual activity while having sex with a friends
02:30:25Ryan (Rhino)with benefits at the same time no then I think yeah I was wrong she's a hypocrite yeah so uh okay all right uh do you have any thoughts on that like how would you feel in that situation I mean yeah I think she shouldn't have snitched on
02:30:38Ryan (Rhino)herself if she wanted if she liked him that much um but I guess it saved him heartbreak in the long run but I thought that was a funny concept where girls are like I want to take this guy serious so I'm not going to have sex with him but
02:30:51Ryan (Rhino)then the guys that they don't like they'll be getting raw dogged at the foam Cannon party and I'm like why like if you the guy that you don't like
02:31:02Ryan (Rhino)you're letting hit and then the guy that you do like pass the weight I always and I've heard that so many times and I don't know if any of the ladies have an answer to that why would why do you make a guy that you actually like weight but
02:31:14Ana Godinathen let the other guy smash you at the foam Cannon party cuz we want them to respect us okay cuz we want respect okay I think for wom they already up with the other guy you know what I mean and
02:31:26Ana Godinathey're like okay like this is already a body like he's already me but I want this guy to respect me and like me so they're going to make them wait but I
02:31:37Brian AtlasI think you more so coming at it from why this different standard like the guy wouldn't you almost want to reward the guy who you think is like long-term potential and that's it shouldn't that
02:31:49Brian Atlasbe the guy that you want to sleep with not the douchebag boy that is other chicks and doesn't give a doesn't care about you at all like
02:31:59Ana Godinathat's who gets that's who gets women to be treated like and then oh women what say that again women like to be treated like I think so yeah I think a lot of women like I mean I'm
02:32:10Ana Godinareally a little older but I think I don't know if I've really ever gone through that but I do think some women like to almost like earn their love like how she said like when it was bad it was really bad but then when he rewarded her
02:32:22Ana Godinaand he was nice to her I was like oh you know like she felt so fulfilled and she felt good about herself okay yeah I think a lot of women like that's the whole bad boy face like yeah it's yeah a lot of women go through it I I this is
02:32:35Ryan (Rhino)maybe a little Pro tip for the girls like if you like a guy never tell them that you had a ho phase or you yeah I had a few one night stands like one or two and then you make the guy you like
02:32:47Ryan (Rhino)here on the date but we're going to wait you know I want us to be more serious cuz then the the guy's going to feel like they got to pay full price for something that another guy got for free
02:32:58Ryan (Rhino)yeah yeah so the other guy got you for it took him 15 minutes and like a mimosa and he got to hit and I got to buy you dinners and do this so do you think so
02:33:09Ana Godinado you think she should lie yeah no no but what hly but like what if like you're in a small like you know you're in a small town like people we going to talk you know he's going to eventually well that it could come out that is the danger with that but wouldn't you rather
02:33:21Brian Atlasknow the truth sure maybe you really like this chick but I'd rather have the red pill give me the red pill so then I can make a decision and I mean if it's the case that she has a past then later
02:33:34Ryan (Rhino)I I guess I'm like an ignorance as Bliss type of person cuz I don't want to obviously yes I would like to know ideally if I'm talking to a girl please tell me if you got a train ran on you
02:33:44Brian Atlasplease but I guess I'm trying to give them a Pro tip no but I don't think I obviously so I I I think the angle you're coming from is you're telling them this will be the most effective
02:33:56Brian Atlasthing that you can do to get the guy yes correct no it is it is but you're lying in the process and I think I mean me as
02:34:06Ryan (Rhino)a guy I'd rather just I'd like to know that way I can opt out yeah po having the DAT yeah I think I'm the advice I'm
02:34:15Ryan (Rhino)giving I would want the girl to lie to me I'm I'm like being like a I'm being a traitor currently oh giving them game you're giving them game put on gotcha
02:34:28Brian Atlasmakes sense but it will back like if a girl lies and then you hear through the grape vine that she actually that's not the case then that's
02:34:38Sashalike that's makes you love her less oh that's a that's a breakup yeah like like oh listen yeah you're girl ran a train on her with 10 other dudes she's different now she's
02:34:50Sashadifferent now she's reformed she didn't remember it so it didn't happen she wants to you away okay she's been cibit for a year her vagina closed up a little bit you know she loves you I have a I have a question for the girls here and
02:35:01Brian AtlasI'll know please be honest with this have you ever been hooking up with a guy while talking to another guy and you're making the other guy weight while you're
02:35:11Sashahooking up with another guy couple sneaky links here it's possible don't worry your secrets are safe with me and no one's going to see
02:35:22Sashathis no you're fine nobody you're fine yeah just like Okay small it's fine it's fine no one want no I don't know stop
02:35:34Brian Atlasthe c um I yeah I haven't I mean it's no one of the things that I find difficult with
02:35:43Brian Atlasthat conversation though is on one hand like let's say a girl her pre her she had 30 previous sexual partners she slept with all of them on the first night and then finally she's like maybe
02:35:56Brian Atlasshe looks at it maybe I shouldn't do that and then she turns a new leaf and she changes her standard on one hand it's like we ought to applaud her for
02:36:06Brian Atlastrying to take things a bit more seriously but I also would still like I'm not going to just say okay we'll continue like just casually a bunch dudes like good for you you're
02:36:18Brian Atlaslike maturing I guess but also if I encountered a girl who like the last 30 she 30 dudes all of them immediately and then she wants me to
02:36:29Brian Atlaswait till marriage look it's your that's 100% your choice but I'm I'm going to feel like I'm going to feel like I'm getting scammed a little bit so I'm going to just be like okay never I don't want to
02:36:41Brian Atlastalk to you yeah so so what if she but what if she you right away then would it be fine You' just be upset if she made you wait then you're like all the rest of them yeah no but I wouldn't it's it is a difficult position because
02:36:52Brian Atlaslike what do you tell a girl okay well because you've done that in your past now you just have to continue for the rest of your life being a Like You can never go back I mean it's tough but
02:37:03Brian Atlasat at the same time as a guy I would feel like I would feel almost like I'm getting played a little bit like okay cuz I mean I would feel as if either you're just I don't know it's
02:37:16Brian Atlashard for me to articulate maybe you not feel good enough I'd feel like she didn't have like a burning genuine desire for me she didn't have genuine desire like she did for the other men I think she she views me and like I'm the
02:37:29Brian AtlasI'm going to be the safe provider guy that she settles for and I'm going to be the pay Pig wallet dude and it's like no I don't want that not that I would do that to begin with but um here here's like maybe the reverse scenario because
02:37:42Brian AtlasI do think it's the case that women generally speaking tend to care a little bit bit less about male promiscuity or male body count so I think some women do not saying that they can't or don't but I think they generally speaking care less and there's a couple reasons for
02:37:55Brian Atlasthat but here's a couple scenarios so thoughts on the situation on the scenario you've been in the situationship with a guy for six months you really like him you want him to
02:38:04Brian Atlascommit to you but he says he likes to take things slow somehow you find find out that the last three girls he had a committed relationship with he initiated
02:38:14Ana Godinathe commitment conversation after only 3 weeks of dating how does that make you feel you're not the one he's not the into two no I think men know pretty
02:38:26Brian Atlasquickly like who they want to commit to if they like you wait okay do you guys have any thoughts on that like dislike you'd feel this type of way about it I don't think he's the one either yeah
02:38:36Brian Atlasyou're not the one oh okay but maybe he turned a new leaf and he wants to by okay maybe here's a different one here's a different one your boyfriend
02:38:46Brian Atlasum he's had the same job for 10 years well I mean he's he you know same job so his income has stayed the same he
02:38:55Brian Atlashe's he's had sorry he's had what he's had no radical changes in his income um you've been dating him for instacart
02:39:05Brian Atlasyou've been dating him for six months and uh he doesn't really like get you he doesn't get you gifts doesn't buy you anything you go 50 on
02:39:17Brian Atlasdinner no vacations let's say you've been da let's say you've been dating him for 2 years actually no vacations no gifts really um let's see what else uh doesn't really take you on dates that often maybe
02:39:30Brian Atlasoccasionally but not that often and he kind of wants to do 50/50 whatever you find out that his past three girlfriends he would F like he would cover pay for everything he would
02:39:41Brian Atlastake them on trips he would buy them gifts get them jewelry all this stuff always paying for dates how would you how would you feel about I wouldn't ever
02:39:52Juliadate a guy that would do that in the first place do what do what we are doing 50/50 all the time barely giving me gifts you wouldn't oh you don't want 5050 I wouldn't be in that relationship
02:40:03Juliato begin with but what if he like lost his job and he couldn't do like that's desperate times yeah if we were already in love and like he did that like I would understand oh okay so
02:40:14Brian Atlasyou would not to 5050 no okay well let's say it wasn't 50/50 he was like paying for dates but like he never bought you gifts never took you on trips but all
02:40:24Brian Atlashis ex-girlfriends you find out every couple months Hawaii uh Tulum wherever the people boyfriends take their girlfriends I don't know um
02:40:34Brian Atlasgetting her gifts here's a necklace here's a I know what purse dude I think it's a l for dudes to be buying actually okay but that's another conversation you could you could take it as like two different ways right you
02:40:47Sashacould take it as they were trying so hard to keep this prize the previous girlfriends were the prize he was trying so hard to keep them maybe they were out of his League he was like I need to shower them with gifts and everything
02:40:58Sasharight and this girl this girl is within his League this girl is comfortable so now he feels like I can relax a little bit I can take a step back I know she ain't going nowhere mhm I don't want
02:41:09Ellieto be that girl yeah why would you want to be the girl that doesn't get any of the the one settling for like yeah it's just settling that's the thing it's like well you don't want to be the one you
02:41:21Brian Atlaswant to be like special not it almost feel like he doesn't like you as much as he did his ex-girlfriend and that's kind of how we feel when a woman will have sex really
02:41:33Juliaquick with one guy and then say okay we're going to wait three months but sex is not flying someone out all the time and going on days SE is not man it could be I mean it could be it's transactional to for a lot of men yeah sex is
02:41:44Brian Atlastransactional at the end of the day it's not I I'm not trying to make a com necessarily a comparison in that regard what I'm trying to say is in the same way that he
02:41:55Brian Atlaswas he was doing certain things with his ex he's not doing with you you were doing certain things
02:42:04Brian Atlaswith your exes or with other guys that you're not doing with him no it's understandable but do you
02:42:13Ana Godinanot think like as a man do you not think like waiting for sex like I don't know doesn't make the relationship more special like what are you to say you could someone on the first night and like okay I could still make her my
02:42:26Brian Atlaswife absolutely you would think you wouldn't think of her as like yo this she on the first date well there's other I think there's much better indic indicators than the rapidity with which a woman sleeps with
02:42:36Brian Atlasyou when it comes to her potential promiscuity her body count um I mean as speaking from my own experience I've had multiple long long-term relationships I had a 2-year relationship 5year
02:42:47TTS Readerrelationship couple other ones um it was Allan lost some donated $100 how about this scenario ladies you're in a relationship with this
02:42:58TTS Readerstream guy for say 5 years now and you're hoping he proposes you guys break up you find out he has a new partner that he has proposed to only after a
02:43:08Brian Atlasyear or dating how would you feel like sh like awful dog y Brian's lost son thank you kind of related to this one there's there's this uh it's very similar your boyfriend of five
02:43:21Brian Atlasyears has yet to propose to you he tells you he wants to take things slow and he's he isn't ready yet you find out that he proposed to his previous two ex-girlfriends after just N9 months of dating you're not the one you're you're
02:43:32Sashanot the one men will know within the first 6 months of a relationship if they want to be with you forever I'm sorry but it's like you're not the one and to women if you're watching this like if you're with a guy for an extended period
02:43:44Sashaof time and there's no commitment there sorry sis like I'm so sorry like you got to either it's got to happen or it ain't it ain't got to happen I'm so sorry he's
02:43:54Brian Atlasjust you um he's single right so anybody trying to I'm um okay so oh to bring it back to uh I mean all my long-term
02:44:05Brian Atlasrelationships we hooked up relatively quickly second second hangout by Third hangout wait what's that that's you yes
02:44:15Ryan (Rhino)no wait say with your chest uh yeah yeah I mean yeah like like you said there's other I have been with some women where
02:44:26Ryan (Rhino)I'm like I know she's a 304 and I just you just know that there's certain things I can make a whole laundry list of things but then there are women who are
02:44:36Ryan (Rhino)extremely uh they don't toss it out but then did stuff early but that doesn't mean that I guess you're able to tell if oh I really just wooed her over and she
02:44:48Ryan (Rhino)respects herself and this is just a beautiful thing we're having uh versus oh yeah she just tosses this out there's ways that guys can determine that and all my long-term
02:45:00Sasharelationships like we were doing it pretty quickly can you share some of the ways that guys can figure it out so for the ladies at the table can you know can you give the secrets yeah some insight
02:45:10Brian Atlassome insight please if she goes partying and clubbing and three to four yeah the partying is a big one that's a typically can be an indicator not
02:45:20Juliaguaranteed offense Julia okay I feel like everyone don't dog on her come on you guys sorry sry but everyone in IV and Santa Barbara definitely go out like
02:45:30Ana Godinaevery weekend stem girls that be some St you 21 yeah oh yeah I mean every 21y old is you know raging yeah
02:45:43Brian Atlasyeah most I think most there's some nerdy there's some nerdy introverted chicks that would not be caught dead what if like I mean would you rather not like have her get out of her system right now like what if the nerdy stem
02:45:56Ana Godinagirl like you know a year in your relationship she's like yo I never lived my life like I want to go and yeah and she's always crazy yeah I want to go party I want to go out nah she resents you you want to be her first
02:46:06TTS Readerwait oh hold on energy donated $99 Rhino is a major L Captain Save thought why would you give women in advice to lie about getting rant H are
02:46:17TTS Readeryou do not lie and don't get a train ran on your 304 asses trying to get saved she want to get saved I ain't going to
02:46:26TTS Readersave her number 304 # streets number8 18 yo that was some LP that was that was some poetry there you captain in
02:46:38Ryan (Rhino)addition to um a woman uh you you recommend that they lie about what again I was saying if they if a woman finds herself in a position where
02:46:50Ryan (Rhino)she found a guy like that she does not want to lose I'm just saying what would be in her best interest but I but women will got will lie regardless if I tell them to or not so it's not like I'm giving away some Secret Sauce really
02:47:02Ryan (Rhino)women are going to withhold their body count numbers and say oh yeah I didn't get toaster strudel like you know they're going to keep those things you
02:47:12Sashamean pie give me the red P you mean Twinkie twink not twink toas strudel cuz it's on the top yeah but but you said I didn't get but most women get toaster strudel not a lot of women get twinked I
02:47:23Ryan (Rhino)wait what are we I get it we on the same way L there and that's what I'm saying and if a girl likes a guy a lot don't let him know that you did that but they do that anyway girls would do that anyway so I
02:47:35Ana Godinamean but toaster strudel isn't is that when the guy com no no no that's like on your like stomach yeah oh I'm sure just like giving into details about your sexual history I think that's
02:47:47Brian Atlasjust pretty much what he's saying yeah not like you're going in too much on no I wouldn't want like when when I say like if I I'd rather have the red pill I
02:47:55Brian Atlasdon't need her to in great detail recount like the like the details of her sexual experience but like she's got a
02:48:05Brian Atlashigh body count I'd like to know yeah if she's done a gang bang please tell me if the entire division three football team you I'd like to
02:48:15Brian Atlasknow please damn not even D1 yeah D3 it's is that Santa bar is D is Sant Barber City College division 3 we don't have a football team yeah no there's a