Dave Rubin, Timcast Mary vs. Kicked Off Erin! (HEADACHE) | Dating Talk #112

Date: 2023-10-25

Duration: 5h 13m

Guests

Brian Atlas

LLexi (Escort)>

AAaron (straight8)>

LLauren (Brothel)>

AAngie (DT112)>

TTracy (DT112)>

FFallon (DT112)>

AAbigail (DT112)>

JJosanne (DT112)>

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00TTS Reader(audience)

SPEAKER_01Dave Rubin(guest)

SPEAKER_02Angie(guest)

SPEAKER_03Josanne(guest)

SPEAKER_05Lexi (Escort)(guest)

SPEAKER_06Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_07Aaron (straight8)(guest)

SPEAKER_08Fallon(guest)

SPEAKER_09Tracy (Lexi)(guest)

SPEAKER_10Abigail(guest)

SPEAKER_11Kiki(host)

SPEAKER_12Lauren Roses(guest)

SPEAKER_13Mary Morgan(guest)

Key Moments

IntroBrian Atlas opens show from Santa Barbara, CA.

“welcome to the whatever dating Talk podcast... I am your host Brian Atlas”

IntroAll guests introduce themselves: Lexi (23, Bunny Ranch escort/OF/stripper), Aaron/straight8 (24, streamer, straight edge, vegan, new relationship), Lauren Roses (31, Bunny Ranch courtesan/musician/PR, returning guest), Angie (19, movies/clothing brand), Tracy/Lexi (23, poker player, Alaska), Fallon (18, UCSB sociology), Mary Morgan (23, Timcast commentator), Abigail (20, nanny/gymnastics coach), Dave Rubin (47, Rubin Report, FL, gay married).

Key MomentDave Rubin defends sex workers as individuals doing nothing illegal while not endorsing sex work: "I will defend a human being who is sitting across from me who is doing nothing illegal with her life." Lexi thanks him for treating her like a human being.

“I will defend a human being who is sitting across from me who is doing nothing illegal with her life”

QuoteDave Rubin on finding a partner: "you just have to find somebody that will push you in ways that will make you a little bit better."

“the trick is you just have to find somebody that will just like push you in the ways that will make you a little bit better”

ControversyDave Rubin leaves show after Aaron suggests he debate Sam Seder. Rubin calls Seder "a horrible horrible human being" and calls Aaron "a troll." Offers books to other guests but not Aaron.

“oh you're a troll I knew something was up with you this whole time”

QuoteMary Morgan: "feminism is based on an insidious lie that there is no difference between men and women and that we should be expected to act exactly the same way."

“feminism as an ideology is based on an insidious lie that there is no difference between men and women”

Key MomentBrian states he would disown his daughter if she entered sex work and refused to stop despite all his interventions.

“then yes I would it would be so disappointing to me that I would probably disown my daughter”

Key MomentLauren Roses reveals she has MS and prefers open relationships where her partner can have another woman, out of insecurity about her illness being too much for one person.

“I have MS and so sometimes I think it gets too crazy for people to handle... I want the man to have another woman because...”

QuoteKiki self-rates 7/10. Aaron self-rates 10/10. Brian rates Aaron a 6.

“a solid seven 10 to 10 baby I'm a six I'm a six I'm a 6.5 today”

ControversyAaron accuses Brian of "clip farming" with sex workers — profiting from dunking on them while claiming to condemn sex work. Brian becomes frustrated after ~4 hours of debate.

“this whole show is clip farming this whole show is supposed to be clip farming... you can make your money clip farming and dunking on like all the three fours”

QuoteBrian shouts down panel: "yo yo yo shut up it's my show I will choose when we move on"

“yo yo yo shut up it's my show I will choose when we move on or don't”

ControversyAngie (19yo) reveals she had 4 online sugar daddies as a minor (~17yo), sent partial nude photos via Snapchat, made ~$6,000. Never met any in person. Shocked panel.

“the most was like a thousand in one day like for like 20 pictures... I went to LA for a weekend and that was like 3,000”

Key MomentLexi reveals she has a sugar daddy (48yo NYC man, never married) who gave her his credit card with no spending limit; she is starting to develop feelings for him.

“he's actually given me one of his credit cards so I just use his credit card and then at the end of the month he pays it off... I am starting to catch little feels for this man”

Key MomentLauren Roses reveals she had a sugar couple (married doctors from Chicago).

“I don't have a sugar daddy currently but I remember I had a sugar couple and they were so cool... they were doctors and Chicago”

Key MomentTracy reveals she was charged with two felonies at age 17 for weapons offenses (drive-by shooting) and served ~2.5 years in adult prison.

“I was um 17 got out when I was like 19 almost 20... adult prison yes I didn't get charged as a juvenile so I went straight to prison”

Topics Discussed

Guest introductions and relationship status round

All guests introduce themselves with name, age, occupation. Brian goes around table asking relationship status, longest relationship. Notable: Aaron first relationship ever (3 months); Lauren single since 2021; Tracy newly single after abusive 1.5yr relationship; Lexi single 2.5 years (not seeking relationship); Angie in first relationship (live-in immediately); Dave gay married with twin 1-year-olds.

Sex work debate: dating, respect, parental acceptance

Extended multi-round debate on sex work and dating. Topics: most men do not want to date sex workers (Brian/Mary) vs. simps exist and actions speak louder than words (Aaron). Lexi says parents are supportive of her legal escort work. Lauren describes MS and open-relationship preference due to illness. Mary argues sex work is degrading and debasing. Dave Rubin defends individual rights while not endorsing sex work. Debate on whether viewing/paying for sex work while condemning sex workers is hypocritical (Aaron's line of questioning vs Brian).

Dave Rubin segment: politics, abortion, Disney, libertarianism

Dave Rubin discusses his political philosophy: classically liberal/libertarian-leaning. Voted Trump twice, previously Gary Johnson. Begrudgingly pro-choice; supports state-level abortion regulation; opposes federal abortion ban. Defends DeSantis removing Disney's special privileges as leveling the playing field. Discusses weed legalization concerns. Brian asks if most conservatives share Dave's fair attitude toward sex workers. Dave recommends his books to three guests before leaving.

Dave Rubin exit: Aaron suggests Sam Seder debate

Aaron asks Dave if he would debate Sam Seder. Dave calls Seder "a horrible horrible human being" and "a trash human being." Aaron persists. Dave says "oh you're a troll, I knew something was up with you this whole time." Dave leaves, giving books to some guests. This is the "kicked off Erin" event referenced in the title (Dave leaving, not Aaron being removed).

Pre-show notes: Tracy prison story and relationship history

Brian reads Tracy's pre-show notes. Tracy reveals she was charged with two felonies at 17 (weapons offenses, drive-by shooting); served ~2.5 years in adult prison. Buddhist. Father: Vietnam vet, traditional values. Sister: sex worker, father accepts it. Met ex at club in Alaska; moved in quickly; relationship became abusive; left state and moved to Texas to escape abusive ex-boyfriend.

Feminism debate: damage to dating and relationships

Panel discusses whether feminism has damaged male-female relationships. Mary: feminism asks women to be second-rate men; based on lie that men and women are equal. Aaron: feminism enabled women to have careers and relationships simultaneously; it's a false dichotomy. Dave had argued feminism sold women on career over family wrongly. Lauren: experienced silencing from sex-worker-exclusionary feminists. Abigail: feminism has good intentions but became damaging; women more fulfilled raising kids. Tracy: ambivalent.

Dave Rubin hypocrisy debate (post-Dave)

Aaron argues Dave Rubin's question ("why do you bring sex workers on if you think it's bad?") implied Brian is hypocritical for shaming sex workers while profiting from their presence. Brian disputes the hypocrisy framing. Aaron accused of "clip farming" the show. Abigail tries to clarify Aaron was summarizing Dave's point, not making her own argument. Brian tells everyone to "shut up, it's my show."

Self-ratings round (looks 1-10)

Brian asks everyone to rate their looks 1-10. Kiki (SPEAKER_11): 7. Aaron: self-rates 10 (Brian refuses to rate her, then says 6). Abigail: 6-6.5. Lexi: 6 (Brian says 7). Brian: 6. Partial ratings only; not all guests rated.

Ho phase and past relationships round

Brian asks who has had a ho phase. Lexi (escort): her whole career is her ho phase. Aaron: never (too busy with school/quarantine). Lauren: Playboy days were her ho phase. Tracy: ambivalent. Fallon: no. Abigail: had brief period finding herself after controlling upbringing. Josanne: never. Brian: declines to answer (man of God).

Sugar daddy discussion

Brian asks who has had a sugar daddy. Lexi: yes, 48yo man in NYC who gave her credit card with no limit; developing feelings for him. Lauren: had a sugar couple (Chicago doctors). Angie: had 4 online sugar daddies as a minor (~17yo); never met in person; sent photos; made ~$6,000. Tracy: declined to answer about current new guy. Others: no sugar daddies.

Men's preferences for women: income, height, physical standards

Debate on whether men are "intimidated" by women who out-earn them. Brian: not intimidation but career-focused women adopt masculine traits; money does not make women more attractive. Aaron: dismissing high-earning women as too masculine is unfair without getting to know them. Discussion of height preferences (women wanting tall men): Brian accepts it has biological basis. Debate on whether women's physical standards (body type preferences) are unfair. Brian: women are pickier about physical traits than men; things women care about (height, penis size, physique) are mostly outside men's control.

Body count and partner preferences roundtable

Discussion of whether body count matters for men. Lauren: 1000+ (professional). Tracy: 3. Others declined or unknown. Brian says over 10 is high body count; would not date women with high body count. Aaron: men having that preference is fine if consistent. Mary: does not object to men preferring low body count. Angie: thinks caring about body count is dumb/insecure. Mary: many women rejected for being sexually inexperienced (virgins). Brian: men rejecting virgins is about timeline, not body count itself.

Dating men who out-earn women / career-focused men as fathers

Aaron asks Brian to consider the reverse: woman who prefers a less career-focused man to ensure he will be a present father. Brian tries to distinguish biological realities. Aaron accuses Brian of straw-manning. Lexi shares anecdote of sugar daddy in Texas with 3 baby mamas who praised their co-parenting because he was too busy to parent himself.

Men's preference for not dating transgender women

Brian asks panel if they object to men choosing not to date transgender women. Most guests: no objection; it's a personal preference. Fallon: no objection, they should not have to, does not make them gay. Josanne: not really her concern.

Closing and wrap-up

Brian wraps up. Thanks panel. Notes show was "torture" but show went on ~5 hours. Dave Rubin's segment described as feeling short in retrospect. Brian raids Twitch Discord; thanks subscribers.

Transcript

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Mary Morganlot of guys that like are like oh if they have a flat butt like oh I don't want to be with them like I've I know a lot of guys that have been a lot of guys think that they have this type or standard in them that when you look at the people that they they actually date

Brian Atlasit's not I'm just saying like I feel like that's something that shouldn't be a thing or what shouldn't be a thing not shouldn't be a thing I feel like that's a you're talking way too far from the mic please would you just I've

Brian AtlasI've asked repeatedly everybody here if you're going to speak please speak up onto the mic we told you multiple times before the show please go ahead I don't know what I was getting at

Brian Atlasanymore my God okay so what I'm trying to say is that when it comes to phys my god dude I'm so

Brian Atlasfrustrated sorry guys it's just like there are far more things that women care about when it comes to physical love compared to the the reverse for example

Brian Atlaswomen care about height women care about penis size women care about men's physical size way more balding all these things right A lot of these things are out of men's control the only like whereas women just be huh I don't think

Brian Atlasthat's right either I'm saying for both ways like I'm just saying I don't I feel like that's right right but like most women say they want to date a guy who's like six foot tall that's like 10 to yes no that's not true the vast the vast majority of women are vast majority okay

Brian AtlasI guess yes but with you you you cannot accept when I when I use these terms majority you you seem like you always want to argue the exception because you make broad generalizations about women's preferences but then we try to make

Brian Atlasbroad generalizations about male preferences and you push back on it WR but okay but specifically on height do you think it's a unfair broad generalization that generally speaking women have a strong preference for tall

Aaron (straight8)men you're not just stating that fact though you're saying that preference is bad I didn't I didn't say that do you think that what do you mean do you think women having a height preference for men

Brian Atlasis toxic it's not whether I I think it's bad or not I I simply accept that it is I accept you can make do but make a judgment do you think it's good I don't no I don't because I think there's a

Brian Atlasprobably to some degree there's a biological basis for women being attracted to large men tall men because they're more capable of protecting women there's an evolutionary reason biological reason for women to be

Brian Atlasattracted to to that I've heard of that yeah so now however do I think it gets into delusional territory when for example a woman who's 5 foot demands she

Brian Atlaslike a guy who's 63 I think that's like a little like it can get into delusional ter territory but I like I accept that women are attracted to tall men I don't

Aaron (straight8)accept that I think it's not good well I think I think it's it's not good for women to have unrealistic like height standards sure I mean but and I think

Brian Atlaswomen are not beholden to their these base biological instincts to date really tall men um but the reality is is that

Mary Morgangenerally speaking most women would prefer to date a guy who's taller well the five foot2 girl only exists cuz her father isn't over six foot right so they're obviously short

Mary Morganshort short women exist because women reproduce with with guys who are short so sure but generally speaking women care quite quite a lot about height so I

Brian Atlasonly really care if he's taller than me okay that's F and that's a lot of that's a lot of women a lot of women will say that they as long as the guy is taller than me but there's also a lot of women

Mary Morganwho will say I want a guy who's x height 510 6 feet like when it comes to unrealistic standards I think it's just like you come up with this standard so

Mary Morganthat you can um protect yourself from uh being rejected like oh I didn't want them anyways they didn't fit my unrealistic

Tracy (Lexi)standard okay uh do you have anything on this question about the whole like on like preferences that you um I think it like

Tracy (Lexi)I said it just depends on your partner I know a lot of people that are actually married and where they the man's you know he brings in the money and then the woman you know stays home Cooks cleans

Tracy (Lexi)and stuff like that I have a brother that is a stay-at-home dad you know so and then his wife works so it just depends on your partner to be honest and

Brian Atlasif yeah okay um here really quick on this because it's kind of related to the preference thing I need to wrap up the show in about 20 minutes uh do you guys

Brian Atlasobject to men's preference for dating a woman who has a low body count we'll go around the table starting with

Brian Atlasyou go ahead do I object to a say the question one more time okay I will repeat myself again do you object to men

Brian Atlashaving a preference or otherwise caring about a woman's body count I think it's dumb

Brian Atlasokay you you you think it's dumb yeah okay what about you uh come back to me uh no I don't object I think it's dumb too any other descriptive words is it insecure maybe

Angiemight be insecure is it insecure I mean it's just like why does it matter about whose body count okay you know what I mean it's like why does it matter okay yeah I just feel like if you like them it shouldn't

Tracy (Lexi)matter about their body count okay what about you um I don't really know like that's just their perspective if a man doesn't

Tracy (Lexi)want to be with a woman that's been with 20,000 and other men then good for him you know some men don't care um this kind of plays on to what I was going to say about the other

Fallonquestion I mean if somebody has their own preference and that's their own preference and to be honest I don't think that they should be like shamed for their preferences I mean it might

Fallonmake some people insecure and I think that's a lot from where insecurities stem from but I think it's more not what the pref preferences are but what the

Fallonother person thinks the preferences are um like how we were talking

Fallonabout how Angie said about the body types and how Brian said that like men don't actually think that it's just

Fallonfemales think that because they do it and then they see other women doing it but about body count same thing I just think that like a preference is a is a

Fallonpreference and same thing with what she said like if you don't want to date somebody who has a high body count and you want someone with a low body count then great like I just don't think it

Fallonmatters do you think a guy might be insecure if he prefers a woman with a low body count I don't think so I think that your preference is your preference

Mary Morganand I don't think you should be insecure at all about any preference I you Mary um I don't object to men having a preference for low body count but also I

Mary Morganthink that there are a lot of uh girls who get rejected because they're sexually inexperienced women get rejected because they're sexually in exper inexperienced

Mary Morganthere are a lot of girls I've seen say like yeah guys rejected me because I said that I didn't want to sleep with them and or I'm oh different or whatever they say like they're a virgin they get

Brian Atlasrejected they say they don't want to sleep with anyone before marriage they get rejected but it I don't i' I've seen a lot of girls say that I don't it's not clear to me if they're getting rejected because of their low body count it's

Abigailprobably they're getting rejected because they don't want to have sex with the guy yeah the guy doesn't want to and and if he's rejecting you for that then and you want marriage then good yeah

Mary Morganyou're waiting till marriage and he's rejecting you cuz you're waiting till marriage then great but I I don't think that there's like but it kind of pushes back on the idea that all men prefer low body count no

Brian Atlasbut I don't see the when it comes to wifing they usually do usually no I guess there's exceptions if if a virgin girl was prepared to have a one night

Brian Atlasstand with the guy I don't think the guy is going to turn her down because of her low body count I think guys are typically they're rejecting women who

Brian Atlashappen to have low body counts or who are virgins because they don't align on the the timeline right but I don't think

Brian Atlasit's they're not rejecting them because of that it just you could have a a body count of 50 and tell a guy I want to wait until marriage and he would he

Brian Atlascould very similarly reject you because you don't match up on when you want to the speed with which you want to uh start having sex in the relationship yeah I think when you said experience I

Aaron (straight8)think it gives the impression that what you mean is like guys would reject a woman for not having like enough I guess of a sexual background CU it's like a what if she's bad in bed right but I don't think that's what you meant I think you're just saying that like a woman who maybe is like a virgin or is

Josannenot going to sleep on like the first date or whatever like can be a turnoff for guys yeah yeah the values need to be aligned for that concept to work you

Josanneknow no no did you answer no I I don't think it's unfair I think it's a fine preference to have okay so are we talking like and an actual like

Josanneconfirmed kill you should care oh what an actual confirmed kill I mean you should care but that was a joke so I don't know what that was body count confirmed

Josannekill all right haha to Call of Duty that's actually funny okay um yeah no it

Brian Atlasmatters okay H all right all right um so trying to

Brian Atlasremember so okay so you said it was insecure or I forgot I don't know dumb um news flashmen care about body count it's totally valid for a guy to care

Brian Atlasabout body count uh I care about body count a woman I would not want to date or even sleep with a woman who had a high body count what's a high body count I mean it depends on age but like

Brian Atlashonestly once you some men might even think this is like I'd say over 10 you're getting into high body count territory I I think how

Brian Atlasmany body counts do you have how many I I don't he has one body count but we're going to go uh actually I before I should have for those of you who said body count shouldn't matter what's your

Brian Atlasbody count well I want to know yours maybe I'll save it till the end but wait wait wait before you leave before you leave one I first I'm skipping this one didn't you answer it last time did you

Brian Atlasanswer this last time possibly I forgot what do you mean possibly you don't wouldn't you know there's no way I don't remember like everybody's answers you don't remember if you answered it or not okay um cuz so

Brian Atlaswhat's your body count no I'm no I asked first though I will I will give you my answer to the question after we go around the table go ahead no no no you answer the I'm skipping why you just

Lexi (Escort)answer the question you said body count I'm to piss you off you off respectfully I don't want to answer the question right now that that's fine but you did say body count doesn't matter right did you answer it

Brian Atlaslast time Brian I'm telling you right now I can't recall what this she's pleading the fifth okay um does any did she answer it last time Nick were you here do you remember okay

Lexi (Escort)well can we just go around the table and then you tell I your can guess mine and then she'll feel like telling you it'll be fair it'll be fair it's only fair cuz I asked it's only fair cuz

Aaron (straight8)I asked first all right go ahead what's body count oh I'm not going to sh my body count did you say body count doesn't I didn't answer I said come back to me and then you you have a short answer do you have a short answer on

Aaron (straight8)that um I think in the same way you were saying that you disagreed that when when I asked about like the like do you want me to answer you look

Brian Atlasannoyed I don't know I'm well I'm trying to see if you don't care that's fine but then skip me bro I'm you look so irritated having this conversation you're the you as me I know if you really want the answer you don't have to

Aaron (straight8)be meta over whether I'm annoyed or not I asked for a short answer go ahead I accept it huh I accept it like accept I kep asking you to give a normative claim earlier about whether or

Brian Atlasnot you thought a woman's preference for a height is good and you're like I accept it so men you you stated most men you think it's fine that you're so can you just answer the question can you

Aaron (straight8)just please answer the question if guys have a preference for a woman with a low body count they because they think that that means they have similar values then that's fine so okay so what you're saying is in

Brian Atlasorder for a guy to have a preference for a woman with a low body count he too must also have a low body count is that kind of what you're saying yes so it's consistent I think that's fine I don't I don't necessarily think it's body count

Aaron (straight8)ends up being the proxy for values because he assumes if she has a high body count she probably a hoe I don't like doing that I don't want ho women so I don't want her to have a high body count what about you uh I'm not hiding I

Lauren Rosesthink I mean I've been doing this since I was 21 so I would guess a thousand um but um a th000 plus yeah I guess so sure but

Tracy (Lexi)forgive me if I keep getting up cuz I was just hungry in for what about you three three okay what about you uh I do not want to disclose that

Tracy (Lexi)information because do you want to do a range instead of like act like just arrange no I mean like that's my sexual activity is what's going on between me and my partner the whole world doesn't need to know how many people I had

Tracy (Lexi)intercourse with or anything like that that's me and my personal business so I'm just not going to answer that

Brian Atlassix okay zero my husband just one mhm B the fifth oh Nick you okay Nick if someone talks to you

Brian Atlasyou still got to prioritize like uh okay should we go again I no I mean okay 01 what was it plead the fifth plead the fifth what's yours multiply by

Brian Atlasthree and that's the real I also plead the fifth I do I do not disclose that information that's my answer to that um let's see I'm trying to well if he prefers a woman with a low body count I would assume you have a very low body

Brian Atlascount also right no I don't think that I and I don't think it would even make you hypocritical if as a guy you had a high body count but you had a preference for a woman with a low body count I don't

Brian Atlasthink it makes you hypocritical why not because men and women are different no one disagrees that men and women are different but why doesn't it make you hypocritical it's because because you need not possess a trait to desire it in

Brian Atlasa partner in the same way that short women like tall men in the same way that non-funny women like funny y stop interrupting please you can't sleep

TTS Readerwithal herpes condoms don't protect you it makes you 7x more likely to contract HIV sexual battery if you don't

TTS Readerdisclosed to Future partners and taking kidney damaging medication for Life body count matters uh yeah Jay Butler yes and Body

Brian AtlasCount HIV thing isn't even a crime in California though my God bro what was that was that

Aaron (straight8)the modem was that the modem Nick that got hit oh my God bro okay um what if she had a high body count but she completely like renounced

Aaron (straight8)her past like whole life and kind of like changed became like super religious became like I'm never going to sleep with somebody again until unless I marry them what what are you asking me what

Brian Atlaswould I date her no no no okay I'm just saying like can disqualifier if you have a high body count even if it was in your past even if you change okay yeah

Lexi (Escort)yep it's just like yeah it's don't want to date with woman can I ask you a question so what age range do you typically go for when you date women

Brian Atlaswhat age range yeah I'd say generally generally speaking I generally date women around my age so late 20 or late 20s to early 30s I've dated women

Brian Atlasolder than me late 30s I've dated women so relativ like 25 and up I've dated women in their mid-40s well I dated I

Brian Atlasshouldn't say I've dated one woman but I'm just saying like 25 and up well I mean generally speaking I would say most of the women I date are around my age

Brian Atlasbut if some hottie 20 21-year-old dm'd me I would date a 21-year-old they don't yeah but what if they had a high body

Brian Atlascount huh what if they had a high body count though at 21 yeah at any age it's undesirable for a partner for me but so you're saying that you would want to get

Brian Atlaswith a 21-year-old that's fine if she was a hottie but that's not what yeah you said if she was a hotti and she was 21 you'd be down to date her right but are you trying to weave this in but she has a high body count is that no no no

Lexi (Escort)no no I'm I'm trying to bring in something else here okay go ahead so and then I said well she has a high body count and then you were like she has a high body count being

Brian Atlas21 are you arriving at the point yeah like how does that are you trying to insinuate that if she has a high body count it's a no it doesn't matter what her age if she has a high body count

Mary Morganit's undesirable are you asking like what's high for 21 no I no I don't know there was an appoint Oh I thought I thought no I was

Brian Atlasjust there wasn't a point at all you're just no it's I mean it's a fair question ask like it's a fair question ask what's the age range that you date

Brian Atlasthat's valid question um here let's move on really quick uh H surprising that you dated a woman older than you why is that surprising there are

Aaron (straight8)plenty of attractive there's attractive wom they weren't unattractive I'm just saying based off your like a lot of your other preferences or whatever with like how you're like the biological urges and stuff like that a woman who's older is like her fertility Windows closing I

Aaron (straight8)don't know if you care about those things maybe don't like by dating a woman who's like in her 40s you're already kind of accepting that you probably won't like have children with her but maybe you don't want kids yeah but I mean you could I mean in certain

Brian Atlasperiods of your life maybe you're just looking to casually date again like you there are attractive women of varying ages i' would say generally

Brian Atlasspeaking like generally okay I would say generally speaking men are most attracted to women between the age of like 18 to 25 from a purely physical

Aaron (straight8)perspective like physical looks but yeah no is there ever is there like an age gap for you that's like you wouldn't do like you won't date a woman who's like 10 years of your senior or

Brian Atlaslike if you connect you don't care oh I mean I dated again I dated a woman this was even like two or three years ago I think I was 30 31 MH uh I dat a woman who was 45 granted she

Brian Atlasdidn't have kids she's very attractive I think that's kind of cool though um she was cool but I mean generally speaking

Brian Atlasdo I dat that was the only woman in her 40s I ever dated so uh but yeah I mean I don't know if that adequately

Brian Atlasanswers the question but yeah I was just curious but I mean generally speaking like if like for example a 21-year-old probably less likely probably more physically attractive than she will be

Brian Atlasat 31 than she will be at 41 uh from just a purely physical looks thing and then probably fewer fewer bodies fewer past um relationship trauma and baggage

Brian Atlasso there are definitely some pros to dating a younger adult woman compared to you know someone who's older was it a red flag to you that she was 45 and single and didn't really have like you're saying she's very attractive I

Brian Atlasassume she didn't really have like I guess a lot of relationship experience you should she'd never been married was that a red FL to you um I mean not necessarily I think she had been in a long she was like in a 10year

Brian Atlasrelationship or something and um but uh yeah oh okay yeah so uh final question kind of related to my

Brian Atlasquestion about uh any preferences that men have that you disagree with and I'm going to start with Aaron on this one actually maybe I start with you we'll go

Brian AtlasI know I'll figure it out um do you object to men not wanting to date a transgender woman no okay well maybe I'll just we'll

Lexi (Escort)start with you and then go on um I simply just don't think it's any of my concern what do you mean like you you don't care either way like it's none of my

Brian Atlasbusiness I think it's fine to have genital preferences so but you're you'd be fine then like if a guy said hey I don't want to date a transgender person you're cool with that like you'd be fine with that

Brian Atlasif a guy told a transgender person that he didn't want to date her would that be fine with me no just he blanket did not want to date a a transgender woman do you object to that or you think that's

Lexi (Escort)fine I think it's like that's their business that's their thing you know what I mean would you judge them for it she's saying it's she's that it doesn't matter to her no

Josanneum I if they don't want a jaded transgender person they shouldn't have to um okay yeah I don't object I don't object same your preference is your preference okay sure that doesn't that

Josannedoesn't make himic or that doesn't make him and if he does want to does that make him gay or no no they're they're allowed to that doesn't

Josannemake him noose they're not going to Freedom of Choice gay men don't date trans women yeah I know but I think they do but

Josanneyeah they do go on Mary Mary please uh what say it say

Brian Atlaswhat all right I'm going to do these last chats we have grid One Motorsports hey thank you man scientifically bodyc count matters as it is proven to have negative potential for relationships High chance of divorce and cheating

Brian Atlaspsychologically no man wants a 30 fo lots of other reasons too okay thank you grid one appreciate it we have Asian Bandit I want that blonde religious girl in the Back in Black don't oh okay I

Brian Atlasdidn't sorry I didn't see the I just started reading it okay I'm not going to I sorry I yeah we have uh I clicked it I started reading it I

Brian Atlasdidn't see the rest whatever thought he donated again we have Fally here coming up in just a sec Fally says I am now very grateful for finding this podcast because it gives me something in the background to listen to Why playing my

Brian Atlasgames Fally what games are you playing dude thank you for making this platform Brian also Ain is the only girl so far who excessively wants your opinion on everything excessively excessively

Brian Atlasexcessively oh man are you hitting on him no I have a boyfriend okay I think we're the chat is going to ship watch out I don't think so oh whoops hold on um all right any

Abigailfinal thoughts before we wrap up speak now or forever hold your piece final thought anybody Abigail I know you got some hot takes to drop H like what you got some hot bombs to drop I can't think of I mean I can't think of

Abigailanything on the spot but if you want to hear what I have to say I have a YouTube Abigail ker follow it that's all I have to say okay what do you think about fism Abby I think it's destructive I think um

AbigailI don't I don't really I don't think feminists are as evil as we paint them to be I think they have good intentions uh most do at least but uh I think it

Abigailturned into something very damaging uh cuz it affected the natural dynamic between a man and a woman not only in relationships but societally I think the patriarchy is good because men are meant

Abigailto lead and so they did a decent job leading uh so so I think women are more fulfilled when they have kids and they don't have to work generally there might

Abigailbe an exception to the rule but feminism is pushing women to work it's damaging they should be mothers you know yada yada I feel like we've all heard it that was beautiful that was beautiful

Brian Atlasokay uh let me just double check make sure we're all caught up on anything I guess on the let me let let me shout out twitch one last time and then we're going to wrap yo guys go to twitch.tv/ whatever drop us a follow drop a prime

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Brian Atlasthat I said fresh and fit no we're not not fresh and fit Discord dude don't my God bro okay um the Discord then let me

Brian Atlassee hold on uh one sec guys oh yo slime thank you for the uh TW uh the Prime thank you appreciate it Q dog thank you for the Prime oh man thank you guys chup man thank you for the

Brian Atlasprime uh let's see it we're not going to raate anybody there's nobody none of my follow people I follow are online uh bring it back really quick just so I can shout out to everybody who

Brian Atlasjust yo Pub test thank you for the uh five Subs man appreciate it uh oh okay sandwich thank you for the prime appreciate it okay that was an

Brian Atlasinteresting uh show I think I lost my mind uh during it I definitely okay um sorry

Brian Atlasit is what it is uh do you have fun no I did not have fun that was torture um thanks for having us 5 hours it 5 hours

Brian Atlasand was Sunday fun uh Sunday was better Sunday is better I I know the panel is a bit big and a lot of little disruptions and whatnot and I just yeah it's um

Brian Atlasfeels like Dave was only here for like five minutes looking back on it weird was a long time Ricardo in my uh chat here I don't know if Ricardo is still watching he did say that Dave rubin's

Brian Atlasquestion was done in bad faith and I do think it was kind of a bad faith question but I mean what call him right now speaker phone it's okay um but

Brian Atlaswhatever uh okay we're going to wrap up guys thank you for tuning in one sec let me get my thing uh oh last call hit the like button please on your way out thank you for tuning in tonight you could have been anywhere in the world but you're here with me I appreciate that thank you

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