Dave Rubin, Timcast Mary vs. Kicked Off Erin! (HEADACHE) | Dating Talk #112

Date: 2023-10-25

Duration: 5h 13m

Guests

Brian Atlas

LLexi (Escort)>

AAaron (straight8)>

LLauren (Brothel)>

AAngie (DT112)>

TTracy (DT112)>

FFallon (DT112)>

AAbigail (DT112)>

JJosanne (DT112)>

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00TTS Reader(audience)

SPEAKER_01Dave Rubin(guest)

SPEAKER_02Angie(guest)

SPEAKER_03Josanne(guest)

SPEAKER_05Lexi (Escort)(guest)

SPEAKER_06Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_07Aaron (straight8)(guest)

SPEAKER_08Fallon(guest)

SPEAKER_09Tracy (Lexi)(guest)

SPEAKER_10Abigail(guest)

SPEAKER_11Kiki(host)

SPEAKER_12Lauren Roses(guest)

SPEAKER_13Mary Morgan(guest)

Key Moments

IntroBrian Atlas opens show from Santa Barbara, CA.

“welcome to the whatever dating Talk podcast... I am your host Brian Atlas”

IntroAll guests introduce themselves: Lexi (23, Bunny Ranch escort/OF/stripper), Aaron/straight8 (24, streamer, straight edge, vegan, new relationship), Lauren Roses (31, Bunny Ranch courtesan/musician/PR, returning guest), Angie (19, movies/clothing brand), Tracy/Lexi (23, poker player, Alaska), Fallon (18, UCSB sociology), Mary Morgan (23, Timcast commentator), Abigail (20, nanny/gymnastics coach), Dave Rubin (47, Rubin Report, FL, gay married).

Key MomentDave Rubin defends sex workers as individuals doing nothing illegal while not endorsing sex work: "I will defend a human being who is sitting across from me who is doing nothing illegal with her life." Lexi thanks him for treating her like a human being.

“I will defend a human being who is sitting across from me who is doing nothing illegal with her life”

QuoteDave Rubin on finding a partner: "you just have to find somebody that will push you in ways that will make you a little bit better."

“the trick is you just have to find somebody that will just like push you in the ways that will make you a little bit better”

ControversyDave Rubin leaves show after Aaron suggests he debate Sam Seder. Rubin calls Seder "a horrible horrible human being" and calls Aaron "a troll." Offers books to other guests but not Aaron.

“oh you're a troll I knew something was up with you this whole time”

QuoteMary Morgan: "feminism is based on an insidious lie that there is no difference between men and women and that we should be expected to act exactly the same way."

“feminism as an ideology is based on an insidious lie that there is no difference between men and women”

Key MomentBrian states he would disown his daughter if she entered sex work and refused to stop despite all his interventions.

“then yes I would it would be so disappointing to me that I would probably disown my daughter”

Key MomentLauren Roses reveals she has MS and prefers open relationships where her partner can have another woman, out of insecurity about her illness being too much for one person.

“I have MS and so sometimes I think it gets too crazy for people to handle... I want the man to have another woman because...”

QuoteKiki self-rates 7/10. Aaron self-rates 10/10. Brian rates Aaron a 6.

“a solid seven 10 to 10 baby I'm a six I'm a six I'm a 6.5 today”

ControversyAaron accuses Brian of "clip farming" with sex workers — profiting from dunking on them while claiming to condemn sex work. Brian becomes frustrated after ~4 hours of debate.

“this whole show is clip farming this whole show is supposed to be clip farming... you can make your money clip farming and dunking on like all the three fours”

QuoteBrian shouts down panel: "yo yo yo shut up it's my show I will choose when we move on"

“yo yo yo shut up it's my show I will choose when we move on or don't”

ControversyAngie (19yo) reveals she had 4 online sugar daddies as a minor (~17yo), sent partial nude photos via Snapchat, made ~$6,000. Never met any in person. Shocked panel.

“the most was like a thousand in one day like for like 20 pictures... I went to LA for a weekend and that was like 3,000”

Key MomentLexi reveals she has a sugar daddy (48yo NYC man, never married) who gave her his credit card with no spending limit; she is starting to develop feelings for him.

“he's actually given me one of his credit cards so I just use his credit card and then at the end of the month he pays it off... I am starting to catch little feels for this man”

Key MomentLauren Roses reveals she had a sugar couple (married doctors from Chicago).

“I don't have a sugar daddy currently but I remember I had a sugar couple and they were so cool... they were doctors and Chicago”

Key MomentTracy reveals she was charged with two felonies at age 17 for weapons offenses (drive-by shooting) and served ~2.5 years in adult prison.

“I was um 17 got out when I was like 19 almost 20... adult prison yes I didn't get charged as a juvenile so I went straight to prison”

Topics Discussed

Guest introductions and relationship status round

All guests introduce themselves with name, age, occupation. Brian goes around table asking relationship status, longest relationship. Notable: Aaron first relationship ever (3 months); Lauren single since 2021; Tracy newly single after abusive 1.5yr relationship; Lexi single 2.5 years (not seeking relationship); Angie in first relationship (live-in immediately); Dave gay married with twin 1-year-olds.

Sex work debate: dating, respect, parental acceptance

Extended multi-round debate on sex work and dating. Topics: most men do not want to date sex workers (Brian/Mary) vs. simps exist and actions speak louder than words (Aaron). Lexi says parents are supportive of her legal escort work. Lauren describes MS and open-relationship preference due to illness. Mary argues sex work is degrading and debasing. Dave Rubin defends individual rights while not endorsing sex work. Debate on whether viewing/paying for sex work while condemning sex workers is hypocritical (Aaron's line of questioning vs Brian).

Dave Rubin segment: politics, abortion, Disney, libertarianism

Dave Rubin discusses his political philosophy: classically liberal/libertarian-leaning. Voted Trump twice, previously Gary Johnson. Begrudgingly pro-choice; supports state-level abortion regulation; opposes federal abortion ban. Defends DeSantis removing Disney's special privileges as leveling the playing field. Discusses weed legalization concerns. Brian asks if most conservatives share Dave's fair attitude toward sex workers. Dave recommends his books to three guests before leaving.

Dave Rubin exit: Aaron suggests Sam Seder debate

Aaron asks Dave if he would debate Sam Seder. Dave calls Seder "a horrible horrible human being" and "a trash human being." Aaron persists. Dave says "oh you're a troll, I knew something was up with you this whole time." Dave leaves, giving books to some guests. This is the "kicked off Erin" event referenced in the title (Dave leaving, not Aaron being removed).

Pre-show notes: Tracy prison story and relationship history

Brian reads Tracy's pre-show notes. Tracy reveals she was charged with two felonies at 17 (weapons offenses, drive-by shooting); served ~2.5 years in adult prison. Buddhist. Father: Vietnam vet, traditional values. Sister: sex worker, father accepts it. Met ex at club in Alaska; moved in quickly; relationship became abusive; left state and moved to Texas to escape abusive ex-boyfriend.

Feminism debate: damage to dating and relationships

Panel discusses whether feminism has damaged male-female relationships. Mary: feminism asks women to be second-rate men; based on lie that men and women are equal. Aaron: feminism enabled women to have careers and relationships simultaneously; it's a false dichotomy. Dave had argued feminism sold women on career over family wrongly. Lauren: experienced silencing from sex-worker-exclusionary feminists. Abigail: feminism has good intentions but became damaging; women more fulfilled raising kids. Tracy: ambivalent.

Dave Rubin hypocrisy debate (post-Dave)

Aaron argues Dave Rubin's question ("why do you bring sex workers on if you think it's bad?") implied Brian is hypocritical for shaming sex workers while profiting from their presence. Brian disputes the hypocrisy framing. Aaron accused of "clip farming" the show. Abigail tries to clarify Aaron was summarizing Dave's point, not making her own argument. Brian tells everyone to "shut up, it's my show."

Self-ratings round (looks 1-10)

Brian asks everyone to rate their looks 1-10. Kiki (SPEAKER_11): 7. Aaron: self-rates 10 (Brian refuses to rate her, then says 6). Abigail: 6-6.5. Lexi: 6 (Brian says 7). Brian: 6. Partial ratings only; not all guests rated.

Ho phase and past relationships round

Brian asks who has had a ho phase. Lexi (escort): her whole career is her ho phase. Aaron: never (too busy with school/quarantine). Lauren: Playboy days were her ho phase. Tracy: ambivalent. Fallon: no. Abigail: had brief period finding herself after controlling upbringing. Josanne: never. Brian: declines to answer (man of God).

Sugar daddy discussion

Brian asks who has had a sugar daddy. Lexi: yes, 48yo man in NYC who gave her credit card with no limit; developing feelings for him. Lauren: had a sugar couple (Chicago doctors). Angie: had 4 online sugar daddies as a minor (~17yo); never met in person; sent photos; made ~$6,000. Tracy: declined to answer about current new guy. Others: no sugar daddies.

Men's preferences for women: income, height, physical standards

Debate on whether men are "intimidated" by women who out-earn them. Brian: not intimidation but career-focused women adopt masculine traits; money does not make women more attractive. Aaron: dismissing high-earning women as too masculine is unfair without getting to know them. Discussion of height preferences (women wanting tall men): Brian accepts it has biological basis. Debate on whether women's physical standards (body type preferences) are unfair. Brian: women are pickier about physical traits than men; things women care about (height, penis size, physique) are mostly outside men's control.

Body count and partner preferences roundtable

Discussion of whether body count matters for men. Lauren: 1000+ (professional). Tracy: 3. Others declined or unknown. Brian says over 10 is high body count; would not date women with high body count. Aaron: men having that preference is fine if consistent. Mary: does not object to men preferring low body count. Angie: thinks caring about body count is dumb/insecure. Mary: many women rejected for being sexually inexperienced (virgins). Brian: men rejecting virgins is about timeline, not body count itself.

Dating men who out-earn women / career-focused men as fathers

Aaron asks Brian to consider the reverse: woman who prefers a less career-focused man to ensure he will be a present father. Brian tries to distinguish biological realities. Aaron accuses Brian of straw-manning. Lexi shares anecdote of sugar daddy in Texas with 3 baby mamas who praised their co-parenting because he was too busy to parent himself.

Men's preference for not dating transgender women

Brian asks panel if they object to men choosing not to date transgender women. Most guests: no objection; it's a personal preference. Fallon: no objection, they should not have to, does not make them gay. Josanne: not really her concern.

Closing and wrap-up

Brian wraps up. Thanks panel. Notes show was "torture" but show went on ~5 hours. Dave Rubin's segment described as feeling short in retrospect. Brian raids Twitch Discord; thanks subscribers.

Transcript

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Aaron (straight8)prostitutes only fans porn it's probably a higher proportion of men um and we can go on that I think they'll say that but I things change you know like people like they'll go in thinking like even if it's short-term or whatever you don't

Aaron (straight8)really choose who you fall in love with I think it's entirely possible like guys fall in love with strippers and sex workers all the time all the time and there's been like success successful men that have married and or dated girls

Dave Rubinthat are in the sex work industry that's a big L for the dude that's a huge L and you may think that but to others can I ask you a question what's your purpose of having

Dave Rubingirls like them on the show what do you mean what's the reason that you bring like a whole bunch of girls sex workers and just like cute girls what's what's your purpose to bringing them on show I

Dave Rubinactually don't mean I don't mean this I don't mean but I'm just trying to understand for arguments like this cuz it ATT and yeah no no no because we could you could be having these

Dave Rubinconversations with people that are dressed differently and not showing off their boobs and everything else and less people would watch and you'd make less money right like that's how it works so everyone's playing a game to a certain

Dave Rubinextent I I don't mean that judgy to you I really don't but I'm trying to understand like the nature of your you have these girls here there's a reason you bring them on right well I mean I

Brian Atlassuppose there's a reason I bring on everybody on to the show but but I mean they initially I think you reached out to me for your first appearance more people will watch if you

Dave Rubinbring on girls dress the certain way right like tell them how to he making there's a lot of there's a lot of Bo at his table like right like there's a reason for that I mean you

TTS Readershould be asking them why they dress the way they do not me but grid One Motorsports donated $100 decaying morals is a decaying Society calling people out on it is

TTS Readershameful and not being a fate to stand up and say that is disgusting and there is no way I will even be your friend is lacking but needed but men are shamed

TTS Readerfor saying I do not want to 304 I I have a question yeah um my question is so I

Lauren Roseslike to come on these podcasts because um I think that perhaps maybe to somebody who is watching who uh so I've

Lauren Roseshad experiences in Sexual Healing with of recovering incels and um what keep going and and um it it they're they're

Lauren Rosesreally the people that I've met I've had experiences with them and I I think that is that a healthy place for them to go like a bro a brothel in a sense where it's it's safe nobody's going to claim anything against them

Lauren Rosesnobody's going to do anything against them they can get their needs met and and it's a legal safe place rather than like you know they go on the internet to to find something and then all of a sudden it's a man in like timbuk 2 or

Lauren Rosessomething and and I think that it's healthy for the brothel um you know to to be there for these men that just want and have that experience and that genuine experience I I think it could be

Brian Atlastruthfully I'm not even sure that I'm a I don't even think that I'm against legal prostitution but when it comes to

Brian Atlasdating I would advise men not to date women who are involved in sex work me personally I would not want to for I would not want to date a woman who is involved in sex work I think it's a

Brian Atlasperfectly reasonable and valid uh standard of preference to have yeah I it's not so much that I'm I'm maybe it's more so Mary that might have an issue with it but I honestly like I I don't

Brian Atlasknow if I have really an issue with a legal prostitution but purely from like hey saying it's okay for men to not want to date women who are involved in no they I think men are entitled to have

Aaron (straight8)their preferences when it comes to who they date I want to ask Dave so I saw a TTS that said like you're a conservative or you're a fascist or like what is like politically what what is your thing like what is your political label fascist I'm

Dave Rubindefinitely right wing extremist I mean well everyone well I've gone very hard on the woke and I was one of the first people calling out woke stuff like a decade ago before before the phrase woke

Dave Rubinwas around and I was I've always considered myself liberal in the true sense of liberalism which is about free speech and individual rights and limited government and that sort of thing which

Dave Rubinnow is more thought of as libertarian um but I mean I'm gay married I'm I would say I'm begrudgingly pro-choice who did you vote for in the last election I voted for Trump last time and the one

Aaron (straight8)before I voted for uh Gary Johnson who was the pothead libertarian the so you supported the goop um do you think like most conservatives like have the view on sex work that you do and like kind of

Dave Rubinthe Fair attitude of like even if you know I'm more I'm more on the libertarian side of probably what a republican is but I know that some people have issues with my life right so like the exchange you have in a free

Dave RubinSociety is that you have to Grant again you can have an ideal of what you want Society to be and and that ideal is what you should try to do I think in your home and your community and everything else but in a pluralistic society where

Dave Rubinwe have 350 million people that are every color and religion and have every thought process and philosophy you got to figure out a system that is going to allow people to live as they wish and sometimes you're not gonna like it so

Aaron (straight8)which candidate are you gonna like support and this oh I live in Florida I mean I think Dan santis is probably the best candidate we've had in modern if you're talking about libertarian values I feel like Dan santis is some of the worst record when it comes to that just

Dave Rubinbecause he is his abortion ban in his State like did you support the abortion ban so I the abortion ban is the one thing that I personally disagree with him Florida had 15 weeks which I'm fine with look first off it's it's a much

Dave Rubinbigger topic than we can probably do here right um or like restricting access to contraception I know he also that just on the abortion thing he's the he's the governor of the state so abortion after row V8 as I'm sure you know was

Dave Rubinkicked back to the St super unpop yeah I think it was the right choice because abortion regardless of your feelings on abortion abortion was not a constitutionally guaranteed right that's what that's what the case was according to the nth Amendment we have rights that

Aaron (straight8)aren't explicitly enumerated in the Constitution and like even with roie Wade and stuff like that I feel like like the majority of Americans like didn't support that decision 60% of Americans are in favor of abortion legislate based on the majority but the

Aaron (straight8)Supreme Court of the United States decided that abortion was not a constitutional gu pushing it back to the states right it didn't make abortion illegal it just pushed it back to the like a federal abortion ban so that like the Republican line was like to get

Dave Rubinnever heard him say he wants a federal abortion he he wants a heartbeat bill which is what he has in Florida I personally disagree with him on that specific thing but beyond that I I don't think I have any real disagreements with

Dave Rubinhim I think he's pushed woke out of schools I think he's done more in terms of fighting the insane culture a Wars than anybody I think he's probably like the the most sort of morally clear leader in terms even with the Disney

Aaron (straight8)stuff like yeah was great what he did with Disney absolutely if you're like a Libertarian and you if you think the market should decide right like his inter he's interfering with the market by no no no no you're confused as to

Dave Rubinwhat he did Disney had special laws and regulations and tax breaks and an airport and a whole bunch of stuff that crony capitalist before him put in and he removed it so he made it more libertarian libertarian is that you want an

Dave Rubineven like would you say you're like a classical liberal special they had special rights Disney had special rights that SeaWorld didn't have and Gator world didn't have that are you know they're competitors right so he took

TTS Readeraway their special rights that's that's evening the playing field so that that would be the classical no it's not regulation even it's removing special privileg a fake conservative you're a

TTS Readerliberal disguised truly disappointed also women who do s work is just women who never got attention and any man who lets their daughter it is a disgrace and not a real again I just said I'm not a

Dave RubinI'm not a traditional conservative I'm gay married I'm begrudgingly pro-choice we could probably go I mean my first book was a defense of liberalism actually but I think you're just a little confused as to what the the Disney situation say that like what you're talking about like oh he came in

Aaron (straight8)and he removed this or whatever it's still a republican Governor inter interfering with the market and if you refer to yourself as like a liberal in the classical sense that means that there's not really supposed to be that sort of Market I don't believe in no government I'm not an anarchist I

Dave Rubinbelieve that government should be used for specific things one thing government should be used for is to make sure that certain companies aren't treated better than other companies because of political preferences so all he did was

Aaron (straight8)remove that so now Disney has to operate under the same exact laws that SeaWorld stuff and the contraceptive stuff alone like conflict with your purported libertarian value so much because to

Dave Rubinrestrict access to contraception or like defunding contraception wouldn't you say that that's an intrusion upon like people's individual liberty no he's not I mean I don't know what you're saying he's not stopping anyone from getting condoms or

Aaron (straight8)getting birth control or something that is restricting access to contraception restricted I can't remember what the name of it is but between his abortion ban for his state which is not not an abortion ban you can

Dave Rubinsay it's an abortion ban but it's not he has a heartbeat Bill 6 weeks you may personally disagree with it but then you should shouldn't live in Florida you have to figure out what your hierarchy of important ideas is right and if you put if you put abortion if you put 8-month abortions at the highest you

Aaron (straight8)probably just shouldn't live in Florida that's the beauty of state's rights right but then the Constitution as like a federal document has to guarantee some certain rights to people regardless of like the individual state that you live the rights that are in the Constitution

Aaron (straight8)should they not be intruding upon people's right to get access to like contraception and to abortion well there's no right to contraception but there so many rights that are not explicitly enumer so you leave those things to the state

Aaron (straight8)so again if you don't like the things that the STIs is doing the right are calling for these like Federal abortion bans which are ridiculously unpopular but if you don't support them that's good like you're saying you don't support a federal abortion ban no I

Dave Rubindon't no because it has nothing to do with the federal government I don't right it has nothing to we just reversed Ro V way kicked it back to the States the states make their choice so Mell was calling for like a federal abortion ban yeah I don't know that I've ever heard

Brian Atlashim say that but I'm not I'm certainly not for that let's bring back to dating here uh and Dave we have I think about 10ish more minutes um is there anything dating related that you would like to

Dave Rubintalk about dating related that I would like to talk about since we have you for another 10 minutes here any any topics you'd like to hit on I think the trick is you just have to find somebody that will just like push you in the ways that

Dave Rubinwill make you a little bit better you know what I mean like if you're like a big kind of Blue Sky thinker then you should have someone that's like a granual thinker and then you can go and build great things together like for me in my life right now like I work very

Dave Rubinhard and I do this and it's had a lot of rewards obviously financial and otherwise and my husband does most we don't we don't have help we have his sister-in-law is helping us but we don't have like hired help at the home and he's doing most of the work with the kids during the day and then I do my

Dave Rubinshow and I come out and I'm changing diapers and then I run back in and I'm on Fox and I go back and I'm changing another diaper or but he's doing that like we figured out a way you have to find somebody that basically just like that your life will be a good blended

TTS Readerkind of holistic thing and if you can do that every couple that I've ever met that if they do that when you with when you're with them and you're like not constantly $100 that's the trick also forgot to say love you in the podcast

Brian AtlasBrian keep up the good work hey Elijah thank you Elijah excuse me thank you very much man really appreciate it uh thank you thank you and uh my question

Lauren Roseswas so question so companies I just never knew that companies are just are uh you said is it dating related let's try to

Dave Rubinokay maybe let try to keep it if we can um did you have no I think anything else I think I think you're a little confused about what he did with his with I think there was like clear Market intervention

Dave Rubinthere but I mean if you don't support conted it he removed it do you understand like they had special privileges and he removed them that's what you would want a conservative to do right you would want people to to make

Dave Rubinthe playing field even that's the difference if if he had been out there like oh we'll give SeaWorld special privileges that would be a problem right like if you owned a bus you wouldn't want the

Aaron (straight8)government to give your competitor special privileges because lucrative for your state like Disney is a massive multibillion like corporate conglomerate for him to interfere in the market like

Aaron (straight8)that just like not even speaking to whether it's right or wrong I think it's like a huge point of hypocrisy for him to like go back on that and interfere you know inter with the market like that and then hey Dave what do you think

Dave Rubinabout feminism what do you think about feminism I think that third wave feminism has led to many of the problems that we're discussing here today basically would be the short answer of

Dave Rubinthat what's the what's the longer the longer version of it would be that I think that the heart of what you're saying which is actually the heart of what you're saying and is that basically

Dave Rubinmost people putting aside gay state or anything else most people want to find a person that they love and that they can build a life with and that is good and decent and sometimes getting there is a little bit messy or a little bit

Dave Rubindifferent and I usually talk about things from a societal perspective or political perspective so I'm just trying to figure out a way to build a society or which we had in America for a long time and I would say we're getting very close to throwing away completely which

Dave Rubinwould understand that there are people that do what you do for a living and what you do for a living and that there are there are people who are totally religiously against those things and how do you blend enough of a society so

Dave Rubinyou're literally not jailing people and killing people and turning neighbor against neighbor the best way to do that I think is a classically liberal perspective so when people say I'm not a conservative it's like I guess I'm not

Dave Rubinin that in a real I would say I'm a modern conservative because it's conservatives that are actually defending all of those liberal values um but the best thing they absolutely are I'll send you a copy of my first book

Dave Rubinyou you'll like it sure I want one but especially I know me too you got it I'll send all three of you the book but the point is the best thing you can do in a society is figure out okay is there something to aim for and then what are the laws we can have so that people will

Dave Rubinhave some individual Choice within that and and live a life that that is hopefully decent otherwise otherwise I mean why do communist regimes end up or or any authoritarian regime end up killing an awful lot of people there's a

Dave Rubinreason for it you know they promise you Utopia but the problem is humans are imperfect so we can't build perfect systems Dave do you think uh male privilege is a thing male privilege male privilege what are your thoughts on on

Dave Rubinthat I don't really I I don't think that any of these privileged things are real you know some people are born rich and blow it some people are born poor and and do really well like that's the story that everyone loves in every movie the guy who's born with nothing and abused

Dave Rubinand blah blah blah and came for nothing and and become something great like the hero's journey is that whatever the is that you have what whatever your is right you came from a broken family or or you came from a super wealthy

Dave Rubinfamily that ignored you the whole time or or whatever like the hero's journey is figuring out what your set of stuff is right and taking it and not just letting it own you forever which almost

Dave Rubineveryone that you will meet in life does almost everyone literally um and if you can figure out a way to take that stuff and take it with you on your adventure and then eventually figure out how to put it aside and then live the life

Dave Rubinyou're supposed to live man you will be happy and fulfilled and you will probably be successful and and accomplish everything you want to accomplish okay so privilege male privilege female privilege that's just

Brian Atlasirrelevant to me any way I think we're getting pretty close to here on the time uh Phoenix are we seven more minutes seven minutes okay yo

Brian Atlasab ab Che thank you for the 20 gifted memberships thank you um I'm let me uh get a couple chats here why not uh we have uh this is from about 23 minutes

Brian Atlasago Ox Maxi absolutely base take from Dave so I'm not sure exactly what it's in reference to but also I watched I love watching Madison pulling faces and stuff in the background Madison standing

Brian Atlasfrom London unfortunately she hear uh Ox she hears you she's just behind uh the the scenes here but she hears you uh and then we have grid coming in Grid One Motorsports donated

TTS Reader$100 for the panel as much damage do you feel feminism has done to dating and relationships how can the patriarchy

Dave Rubinhelp you today oh how can patriarchy help you today is that the question does I'm a little confused about you know if I learned anything on this show it's that I don't do super chats and I'm

Brian Atlasreally leaving a lot of money on the table this G guy watch my show yeah um AB Che thank you it usually it

Brian Atlasis tonight it's been very maybe I should have boosted it for tonight's show normally it's not this frequent the interruptions but uh it's healthy guess

Brian Atlasthat's good yeah yeah so grid one thank you so uh how how can the patriarchy help you today is that I don't know I don't know how the the girls would answer thatch what's the well I think

Dave Rubinthey mean think they mean how can how can the idea of finding a man who will take care of you basically so that you can maybe you know have kids and take care of the home does does that work for

Mary Morganyou do you guys think the patriarchy is bed and you love it wait I'm so confused what's the question guys what is a patriarch I don't it's maybe it's how much damage do you think feminism has

Brian Atlasdone to dating today but he did a typo there oh he well he does say uh or well as much oh how much damage how much damage has feminism done do you guys here's a

Brian Atlaslet me rephrase it if you don't mind grid one do you guys think that feminism has done damage to dating and relationships I think well if you look it statistically well hold on let's

Aaron (straight8)start with you we'll go around the table can can we start over here and go I just really don't know okay fine go ahead uh repeat the question sorry do

Brian Atlasyou think feminism has done damage to dating and relationships I I suppose specifically within uh male female relationships no you don't you don't think it's damaged the relationships I

Dave Rubinthink disagree with me but like what's an example of like how feminism is damaged da well the basic idea would be selling women the idea that if you're career career oriented and you just

Dave RubinChase all of that instead of chasing finding a man getting married being a mother all of those things that that will somehow leave you fulfilled and in almost every case we just know that

Dave Rubinthat's simply not true which is probably a shitty thing for a guy that's 47 to say to a 20 I don't know how old you are right but like it probably actually is true and not probably kind of present this false

Dave Rubindichotomy it doesn't mean that women shouldn't be equal but that the idea of feminism selling this thing that you have to be out there working all day and not home for your like we all know like my mom when when my parents got married my parents have been married 50

Dave Rubinsomething years they still live in the house that I grew up in since I was 3 years old my mom was working before on the oldest my mom was working before I went to school then she stopped working for like 20 years my sister's 10 years younger than me I came she made us breakfast every day we came home she was

Dave Rubinthere to open the daughter every day all my friends my house was the place we went to it created a a type of stability and all of those things and then and then that gave her worth and then she then did go back to work after but the

Dave Rubinidea that you would go be a lawyer and go like be in Corporate America and you know it they sold feminism sold something that fundamentally is probably not totally true not to say that there aren't exceptions to that because of

Aaron (straight8)course there are I just see it as like this false dichotomy that you can either decide between like a career and a family where it's like obvious that men manage to like have children and have like very successful corporate careers I think women are finding it increasingly

Aaron (straight8)just possible for them to go to school have a stable job for a few years they have kids they end up raising those kids but then as soon as the kids are like right back in school they want to go back right back to work and I don't see that as like a negative thing I guess

Aaron (straight8)like Brian maybe does or no yeah yes what's negative about like women working and also like raising families at the same time I don't think those are mutually exclusive

Mary MorganI think that the LIE the center that in feminism is that you can do both of those things to the fullest capacity and the truth is like one of those things

Mary Morganhas to take priority you can't be the CEO and the super mom at the same time and that lie makes a lot of women at the end of the day feel inadequate Kim

Aaron (straight8)Kardashian's a super mom the woman who's been divorced multiple times and she has rich people don't raise their kids for the most part if if you become wealthy enough that you're like a CEO of a Fortune 500 company but like wealthy

Aaron (straight8)people have in common with like lower income people is that they get other people to raise their kids because they get nannies but we don't know that though that's so it could be different that's not a good thing seems to me that I'm not saying it's a good thing I'm just saying it's what ends up happening like their kids aren't just like latch

Dave Rubinkey kids at home or whatever like they end up Outsourcing that or whatever cuz they don't personally dedicate tell you it's actually a deeply depressing thing truly cuz I have a lot of friends that are super rich and we're obviously doing okay and I could live that life if I wanted and we made a very conscious

Aaron (straight8)choice not to do that because that's not what we want in our home for our kids but you have a successful career and you manage you said you have two one-year-olds yeah and you managed to like strike a balance right like have you seen like have you seen your work um

Dave Rubinor like like household income decrease ever since you had your kids no but my husband has fully 100% he doesn't work a full-time job in that sense but he has a job that's way more important than my job actually my job is bringing money

Aaron (straight8)into the house but his job is keeping these kids alive and going and and he's doing it incredibly well once they become like in school do you think he's going to do return back to work yeah

Brian Atlasyeah I think that's what most women do yeah yeah uh Dave it is 75 I'm going to a sex work conven show wait really really

Aaron (straight8)quick do you do like debates or conversations on your thing would you ever debate Sam Cedar no he's a horrible horrible human being no you wouldn't debate him no no no but you're into like

Dave Rubinopen exchange of ideas and stuff right no he's a trash human being why no cuz he's done like a thousand videos about me that are all nonsense I've never even talked about him what a what a boring

Dave Rubinway to not boring what an unfortunate way to have me walk off no he's like a really terrible person I didn't get into the internet to like just endlessly destroy everybody and everything else I like talking to people that I can have

Dave Rubinenlightened conversations with and like some people just want endless Destruction for uh I think you should give a chance I think you guys would have a really good conversation yeah oh you're a troll I knew something was up

Dave Rubinwith you this whole time I'm not think that great no no I I couldn't quite figure it out with you but all right you don't get the book you guys get the book oh

Fallonwow thanks for coming man you got it all right phone your phone pH Madison Madison thanks for coming Dave appreciate

Brian Atlasit Madison yeah thank you wait wait no no no no no can we keep the show going a hug you need really you need to do a hug

Brian Atlasreally is a hug necessary yeah he was nice all right um okay let me do a couple chats because we need to get caught up on a few John G I don't know if you're still watching sorry this came in a while ago it fell

Brian Atlasoff my thing so I'm not going to be able to visually bring it up but John G can you ask Mary if she sees herself as more feminine or masculine I think tradcon women like her are smart principled

Brian Atlaslogical and assertive but paradoxically these qualities come across as masculine like I would vote for her but not date her do you have a response um I think

Mary Morganthat my public Persona is a lot different from who I am in private and who I am in my relationship um but you're right there

Mary Morganare traits that women don't normally have that make it E easier for me to be a public person who speaks on the internet and has convictions like I was

Mary Morgankind of trying to point this out on Sunday um I'm lower in agreeability than the average woman lower in neuroticism uh things like that these

Mary Morganare traits that like the you're more likely to see them in women so yeah like definitely there are things about me that are maybe defective or more

Brian Atlasmasculine that make it easy iier for me to do things like this all right we have Bender the offender it is so sad that modern women aren't even afraid to disappoint the ones they love and hold

Brian Atlasdear okay Bender the offender thank you man appreciate it and then we have actually let me pull up this one from uh grid One

Brian AtlasMotorsports it's coming up in just a sec guys okay the how can the patriarchy help you was kind of sarcastic but we are here to help

Brian Atlasthe lies grid grid One Motorsports is part of the P patriarchy the lies sold to women by the feminist movement have done damage to relationships was curious how much damage the panel sees it having

Brian Atlasbeen done we didn't really fully go around the table on that I suppose we could um I think we left off do you have thoughts on that do you think feminism has damaged relationships let's try to I

Lauren RosesI want to try to move around the table here pretty short and sweet but um I've noticed that you know my my whole life I've I've identified as a feminist I've identified as one but I've

Lauren Rosesnoticed I've noticed this I've been there were feminists that I met that were like you couldn't be a feminist not at all not at all like don't just shut up quit talking there are some feminists that are

Lauren Rosesanti-sexual there some that are prosexual very mean and and they were very mean and so it kept me in this voiceless position in a sense where I was in relationships where I felt

Lauren Rosesvoiceless where I was like I want to speak out but here I'm told by other women that I don't even like represent any other women or anything so it's just so I stay quiet and when you stay quiet

Lauren Rosessilence is one of the most hurtful things that can happen did they tell you why they they just said oh you're a sex worker you you're not on like our level kind of thing and did you just why didn't you just ask why because I just I

Lauren Rosesjust like maybe I'll just make him happy and stop saying that I but I always felt like I I I think that I wonder if like the feminism like it's started out as like maybe a beautiful empowering thing and then it was turned into some sort of

Lauren Roseslike tyrannical like uh like hey you're not good enough to be that you're you are not good enough as you are a sex worker shut up and and and it's like why are you telling me this as a woman who claiming to be a feminist like stop like

Lauren Rosesyou know you should be supportive of women you know and and so I I do identify one as but a quiet one in that sense because I felt like I would just get obliterated by some people see this

Josanneis what really just bothers me with do you have a quick is it quick I go ahead yeah I just go ahead do you have the question again has feminism do you think

Tracy (Lexi)feminism has damaged damaged the relationships between men and women I don't really know okay yeah so feminism is damaging relationships as a woman like I don't

Lauren Rosesholy this question okay yeah it damaged my relationship cuz I didn't speak up in times where I felt like man I could get you know learn my voice with this feminine culture and I could learn my voice and I didn't speak up in

Lauren Rosescertain situations certain relationships and that's where I felt the damage from feminism to another woman who was trying to be I think she's talking specifically about like swerv or sex worker

Aaron (straight8)exclusionary feminists or whatever in that sense but I don't think you were saying the principles of feminism themselves are detrimental to Da thank you just what you said good you feel like you couldn't speak as a woman

Josannesometimes no like the fear of Oppression like government oppression ression just just I think I I grew up no that's inexistent in the US that's what I mean yeah yeah you have the freedom to speak

Josannemhm yeah they have the freedom to speak as well yeah and so I just kind of let him and I was just like all right you felt like you didn't have the freedom to speak F you guys are talking about you felt like you didn't have the freedom to speak you had the freedom to speak it's

Abigailjust it was just in your personal it was in it's not in her nature to speak up that's it's she's made that very clear about her personality it's not in her nature to speak up and she's learning

Abigailhow to that's what she's trying to say well maybe it's sense and feminism feminism allowed you to do that or did not allow you to do that I just don't understand how it's a political movement and that you're I hate my job I

Mary Morganthink the point is that feminism hi Brian you you cannot be a good enough feminist because feminism asks women just kidding I'm kidding guys I'm

Mary Morgankidding are we talking about good enough feminist old good enough like when am I good enough like that's that was it yeah yeah there's no such thing because like feminism is based on a lie that there's

Mary Morganno differences between men and women and feminism expects women to act like men or in there there's a certain it sets you up for

Tracy (Lexi)failure I just think that's I mean if you want to be independent you can be an independent woman like don't get me wrong but I mean I feel like uh if you want to date a man I feel like do do you

Brian Atlasthink that feminism has damaged the relationship between men and women it depends on the circumstances I would say I guess I have no

Mary Morganidea uh did you want me to answer the question Brian let's try to keep it brief but go ahead well yeah to put it simply feminism has damaged relationships between men and women as I

Mary Morgansaid before it's because feminism as an ideology is based on an Insidious lie that there is no difference between men and women and that we should be expected

Mary Morganto act exactly the same way and that's why there's no way to be a good enough feminist mic that way good enough yeah that

Aaron (straight8)way as CD essentially feminism asks women to be second Great Men I think any brand of feminism that's trying to get women to like replicate

Aaron (straight8)some of like the more toxic I guess aspects of like masculinity is not really positive or whatever but I think it's a little bit of a straw man or like uncharitable to say that feminism is just the belief that like men and women are completely equal in all respects I

Aaron (straight8)think it's about acknowledging those differences but saying that they're not enough to to argue against equality you're string right now equality between men and women I'm just disagreeing with it's a political Liberation movement and

Mary MorganI think what it's asking for is women to be liberated from their own nature and if we're bringing it back to dating this means that men can't take their natural

Mary Morganrole in dating anymore they can't be the pursuers they can't be the leaders they can't be heads of households in a society where men and women are expected to have the same goals you say that but

Aaron (straight8)you're in a long-term relationship right you said one year yeah right and then you were saying like professionally that you feel like you have like more masculine tendencies that make you good and that you're like I see the difference between myself like professionally and personally right sure

Aaron (straight8)I feel like feminism is the thing that has enabled you to be able to have a career path and also be able to also a to enjoy like a longterm relationship I think you're living proof that it's not one or the other that you can have this sort of like MRE career

Mary Morganand you can also have a a personal relationship and it doesn't come at the expense of one another but my point is that most women are not suited to that to prioritize careers because most women

Mary Morgandon't have the traits like more assertiveness or higher disagreeability and the ability to negotiate advocate for themselves are things that come

Aaron (straight8)naturally to women then why do you have them because exceptions to rules exist I don't think that you're just exceptional in that sense I think there's lots of women who are equally as like you know forward or like confident and stuff like

Aaron (straight8)that yeah absolutely I think there's plenty of women like um I didn't catch your name oh Lauren Lauren Lauren I feel like Lauren is a perfect example of like a woman who is uh perfectly capable of holding her own and like these discussions like this like coming into

Josannethis like kind of hostile more hostile environment or whatever cuz like as a sex worker especially like you're saying that the minority here is the majority and what Mary is saying is that the exception doesn't make the rules so that's you're deting I just

Aaron (straight8)think it's hypocritical for you to say that you don't really support like you think that feminism is toxic but I'm saying that like feminism is the thing that's kind of enabled you to have feminism ruined relationship literally

Abigailso like we didn't say that we're supporting it one second Jesse would you rather just be able to stay at home and raise kids and not really have to make money by doing this or would you rather

Mary Morgando this and have the kidss and the home life what would you prefer um having uh marriage and children is absolutely My ultimate goal in life and what I will

Mary Morganprioritize and I will never prioritize my career over that so if there is a way to do a career on the side that does not

Abigailhurt my ability to take care of my kids and pay attention to the quality of my marriage then sure I'll do that so I think the goal of feminism was to make it so that women could do what she's

Abigaildoing but what happened with feminism is it made it so that women have to make money women have to be in the workforce now before feminism it was they could

Abigailstay at home and you could live off of one income but now women have to work and women are also being pushed to work and so it's it's like they're not being presented with the possibility of there

Aaron (straight8)was like never a point in like American society at the very least where like there was women were completely left out of the workforce like even in like World War II like women stepped up to like being well you said there used to be a

Aaron (straight8)time where like women would stay at home and child rear and then their husband would go off and do that well you were making it sound like it was the majority of women there was never a time where like there weren't workingclass women who were raising families and also

Lauren Rosesholding jobs let her talk I do think that you know what I'm beginning to understand about feminis there's degrees of it and and and I think that certain degrees of it okay and when you know the

Lauren Rosesthermometer goes up way too hot it's like it's very inspiring to see ladies you know like you and and and like you um be able to you know how I said like

Lauren Roseslike for people who feel voiceless women who feel voiceless in that it's very inspiring to hear from you guys and be like no they're saying that there's a fault here in feminism it's not it's not just all feminism in general there's a

Lauren Rosesfault in certain you know if you go too far you need you tell them they went too far and and and I like that as a woman because it's like okay I'm not crazy because I'm always told as being how I

Lauren Rosesam you're crazy just shut up you know just and and and hearing that from you guys like okay I'm not crazy like there's a there's a thermometer of feminism stop the C okay maybe a little

Brian Atlascrazy just a little bit all right let me read let me move things on we have Conan 19 here hot take Brian Athletics like football while risk of injury have positive Les life lessons to take from it like discipline work ethics how to

Brian Atlaswork as a team how to be leader ABS absolutely important life lessons can be taken from team sports not sex work that is a fair point that is a fair point um so thank you man appreciate it uh Joseph

Brian AtlasPOS Necker hey thank you man really appreciate the support it seems obvious to me that Mary genuinely cares not only broadly but personally about the individuals alcohol is legal but we can all be concerned for alcoholism and try

Brian Atlasto help them sex is legal but when it's disordered the consequences are very sad do you have a quick response to this

Mary MorganMary or I mean I I totally agree um you can't just like tell me that I don't care like it's a matter of my conscience so okay we have I'm telling you that I

Brian Atlasdo care about what affects your lifestyle has on you personally and spiritually we have Nickelodeon the ultimate irony is you women think we care about your opinions not my words

Brian AtlasNickelodeons he paying and watching he's very that's that's that's some toxic masculinity Nickelodeon all right we have Conan 19 thank you the thing about a three fo

Brian Atlasit's got lifeless eyes black eyes like a doll's eyes when it comes at you it doesn't seem to be living until she bites you and those black eyes roll over

Brian Atlaswhite is this a song or a poem is this a solil r can you Conan 19 you need to send us a hi coup can you rephrase this in a hi coup so I can

Brian Atlasbetter understand it all right we have stagner there must be a set of moral values in place that the majority can agree on for society to function and grow question for everyone is respecting normalizing sex work good

Brian Atlasor bad for society and why didn't we kind of address this a little bit we did MH well okay is is how about is

Abigailnormalizing sex work good or bad for society okay um so you were saying you were like sex work isn't hurting anyone I disagree and that's why I'm on this

Abigailpodcast is to talk about why I disagree that it's not hurting anyone because in the beginning when we were getting into what you expect from a man you said he he's a leader he's stable you basically

Abigaillisted masculine traits and what sex work is doing is it's creating feminine men and when you create feminine men you create masculine women and it's all be and the more we the bigger we make sex

Abigailwork and the more we praise it the more that happens the more you have masculine women and feminine men and that ruins Society another thing that ruins Society is making sex normal you might disagree

Abigailyou might think normalizing sex is a good thing but what did he say he was like sex is good I think he means sex work yeah SE sex is good in like certain circumstances one of the comments said

Abigailsomething that I completely agreed with but that's the reason I'm on here to tell people how to live is because I think sex work is damaging and so I mean he was saying what are you going to do

Abigailput people in jail no I'm going to come on a podcast and share my opinion as to why I think it's damaging because I hope that it comes to an end or at least slows down so that's why I'm on here

Abigailtelling people how to live their life is because my belief is that it's damaging your belief is that it's good and so you're doing the same thing I am you're explaining why it's good on a podcast and so you can't shoot me down for doing the same thing that you're doing I think

AbigailI'm not we're not shoot I'm not shooting you down you told me why are you telling people how to live their life and I explained explained why I'm telling people how to live their life because I genuinely think sex work and glamorizing

Abigailsex work has consequences it's a bad thing it's a bad thing to allow your kids to do without um trying to guide them into a different direction it's it's just not a good thing to be

Abigailglamorizing and there's statistics behind it that's the whole reason we're on this podcast I don't know that she was glamorizing it I thought you were just talking about your I'm not talking about she's glamorizing coming for for it I'm just saying like I just answered

Abigailyour question I never got around to answering your question as to why I'm telling people how to live their life so now that's me answering it I know and I'm still just going to say right now that the mic please I I'm still going to say right now that I don't care what

Mary Morganyour opinion is on my life so why are you it when someone says that they're happy doing whatever they're doing we don't always take them at their word for

Mary Morganit if someone is living in a crack Den wasting away and they say whatever I'm happy doing this stop telling me what to do we don't always take them at

Mary Morgantheir word and if you are insisting that you are happy and fulfilled doing sex work what I'm telling you is I I disagree I don't think that it's flish

Lexi (Escort)when I'm about to buy a house I've bought in motor home not the I've been investing my money you have material things I don't have material things I have a lot of things that you listed

Lexi (Escort)material things having an apartment buying a motor home this is all things that I are material things you're talking about financial stability I'm talking about financial stability it's given me the Financial Freedom you guys

Mary Morgankeep interrupting me it's given me the Financial Freedom to live my life how I want to live my life okay we're telling you there are other ways that you could have reached the same goal without

Lexi (Escort)compromising your dignity I like doing what I do for my work I like connecting with clients you know you that real connection any real connection is not

Lexi (Escort)any real connection between two human beings is not a transaction that's you guys and that's your opinions but what I do for work I like doing what I do for work and I wake up every day so happy I wake up every day so happy being able to

Josanneconnect with these people yeah okay we get it but your clients your clients okay you say you like to connect with clients is the sex part really necessary because like I see like we're not a lot

Lexi (Escort)of guys just come in here and pay for sex guys pay for intimacy cuddling all types of things guys will come in pay us for nice meals and take us out to nice places couldn't you just like serve their nice meals and just leave it to

Josannethat like I feel like you guys are very like you know people's skills and very like charismatic and everything into the ranches looking for just sex yeah

Mary Morganthey're paying for a an imitation of a real relationship if they want to do that let them do that though but think that you could make the same kind of money different deal I'm not going to no because there's nothing else in the

Lexi (Escort)world that I'd rather be doing then exactly she's happy I'm content why why so isn't it isn'ta a dead horse it's like how are you going to tell me what to do with my life what am I going to possibly do that's going to be so much

Brian Atlasmore fun for me turn around she likes how am I going to like there's nothing for me I'll get it dank naked hold on here okay well look uh it is always in person's best interest to lie about them feeling good about the things they do

Brian Atlasand the life they live there's a reason why so many blame actresses regret everything and blame everyone around them for grooming them into it word

Brian Atlasthank you dank naked thank you word we have g slang here Lauren you seem like the ultimate giver and nurturer the perfect wife mother then

Brian Atlasyou then you the dick trade then you're in the dick trade I wish I found you first is that what it's called the dick trade I kind of like that term I guess the in dick trade she's in the

Brian AtlasI mean he gave you a compliment thank you she's a dick that's compl guy has to only men can be Dick Smith Guns and Roses unless it's a woman with we don't

Brian Atlaswe don't talk about that though what would a uh a a propheter there you have it

Aaron (straight8)you are a propheter yeah and a Pioneer I guess profet think we're making a huge assumption that you guys don't ever like entertain any like couples but I imagine couples come to the Bunny Ranch all the time we get

Aaron (straight8)couple parties all the time that they're married Haram and it's yeah I mean what do you think of that Brian like do you think those like the women in those relationships are like and the men in those marriages that are

Aaron (straight8)like interested in going to like the Bunny Ranch and these like legalized brothel to like pay for a good time do you see that as like problematic or negative a couple going to a brothel or

Aaron (straight8)to a strip club together as a couple me personally I I can't put myself in their shoes I don't see why a couple would would you like shame a man and like a woman like a couple together for

Aaron (straight8)like doing that do you think that they are like lowering their dignity or or somehow like you know showing like they have a low moral character by just going to a strip club with a couple I I don't know about their moral character but I I

Josannedon't see why in a Rel would you question their values I guess Brian doesn't have time for that okay like it was a question yeah I can answer you

Josanneanswer yeah no but to judge people on the side that's what I mean it's just like it doesn't go like a about his they like oh I wonder like Jud he was saying earlier men should be like sex workers they're essentially in an open

Brian Atlasrelationship then no I don't think couples who have a threesome that doesn't mean the relationship if you're other people you are by definition in a I'll say non monogamous relationship maybe but they're not in a

Brian Atlasrelationship with the sex workers to learn Tantra from they can monogamous I guess you could say I mean I just to me it's like what I don't I don't know in

Brian Atlaswhat realm I would ever be compelled if I have a a wife or a girlfriend to introduce a prostitute into the equation so I just not I don't think these people are being compelled to go to the Bunny

Brian AtlasRanch I think they do it because they just want to have fun fun I mean I've beening watch the new season of Black Mirror or some if you want to have fun go watch Netflix go watch a

Brian Atlasmovie go go to a theme park go if I'm trying to have fun stop stop one time if I'm trying to have fun like the the it's very low on

Aaron (straight8)the totem pole of hey honey let's go a prostitute that to me like there's a lot more other fun things Brian's going to take his wife to like Disney World and then like Build A Bear nothing there's nothing wrong with

Brian Atlasit but it's funny to me you can't fathom that like some couples like that I would rather install a a above ground pool then do that then go to a strip club

Lexi (Escort)that's about that's more F like an above ground pool like that's kind of uh mhm is it class some people they love coming to us as couples and you can make

Brian Atlasan aquarium if you guys speak speak into M please but uh look I I get I don't what are ouren anniversaries that seems like Valentine just just very that's fine if they want to I'm seeing the ick

Aaron (straight8)in real time you like at the idea a couple like volunteer going to a strip club together just have fun oh a strip club well now you're changing the I said strip club and Bunny Ranch yeah or like a brothel together for I don't know why

Aaron (straight8)you would go to a strip club as a guy like it's with your wife girl the women like their girlfriends are the ones who want them to go to the club because they like to see their boyfriend get a dance from

Brian Atlaslike a sexy stripper I've been to a strip club one time and I deeply regret I mean it's not I don't regret it it were you a bachelor party or what no I just went like it's just like you know you go as a I was my friend brought me or something he's like let's go the

Aaron (straight8)strip club I was like okay I never gone I mean it's it's kind of lame like you weren't you were bored yeah it's like they do did they do any tricks if they were if they weren't doing tricks then I understand like I mean

Mary Morganthey were doing the dances really like it's uh did you actually get a dance or no no I didn't get a dance it's embarrassing like you're paying women to pretend they like you what pathetic is

Abigailthat no you guys could probably agree cuz when he was like when I don't yeah Dave he asked you he was like you have the power because they're paying you you agree right the power is in your hands

Abigailand then you explain the relationship that you'd want you'd want him to lead so it's it's pathetic it's pathetic to go to a strip club and and providing like a fantasy you know what I mean do

Brian Atlasthey see you as a human being or as a sex toy human CPL I feel like we lingered we' we have lingered way too long on sex work bad

Mary Morganlet's really quick I wanted to hear what your story was like way back before what story I think I forg I'm saying like I don't see you that way your clients do okay you guys can all you don't know my

Brian Atlascents you you can't speak for all y hold up hold up pull it up Nick pull it up yo X5 podcast thank you so much for the $500 Super Chat dude thank you so much man uh by the way we're going to have uh

Brian Atlaswell I think we're going to have the those guys on but can't hate on the oldest profession in the World get your money and live your life people that judge are envious and poor insecure you sure you want to come on the podcast cuz I'm going to challenge this

Brian Atlasthank you X5 you know what the oldest profession is motherhood it is not prostitution cooking based Mary okay uhk thank you very much X5 podcast hold

Brian Atlason Brian my last Super Chat was a quote from Jaws Robert Chaw is Quint you now have to say the line I don't know his accent was it British accent I don't

Brian Atlasknow um this one are you did you replace shark with 30 fo I think huh I think I think

Brian Atlasit's shark should I play the Jaws theme I don't know okay we have Mr K why not oh okay we need to add this uh we we'll get it added thank you Mr K for pointing that out uh okay we have grid one here

Aaron (straight8)now now Aaron actually Aaron can you read it now now Aaron feminist feminism has eroded the best of feminine qualities by forcing them into roles they are ill suited for and really do not enjoy sure my grandmother helped

Aaron (straight8)build bombers in World War II but she only did that because the men were off dying wow got it there you have it wow and there's been no women in that sector

Aaron (straight8)ever since it's so true and in manufacturing yeah I mean he was saying the only reason why his grandmother did it World War II was because the men were off dying but then like women never left manufacturing

Brian Atlasafter that do but I mean in modern day do you think that women are in in those more physically laborious laborious jobs do you think women are like overwhelmingly construction workers physical labor

Brian Atlasprobably Mone yeah okay uh all right let me that sucks for them too like all of those jobs are like back breaking oh yeah guys go to twitch.tv/ whatever drop us a follow drop us a

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Brian Atlassub if you have one thank you guys which video the Bowing one are we going to what was the what was the other

Brian Atlasone uh we'll do it later it's it's um okay so some of you guys provided some pre-show notes Here for us

TTS Readerum let's see oh okay all right loose energy donated $99 LP shout out to Bas Josie lfg feminism everything

TTS Readerup feminism SL 304s and that super Capa Four Eyes also why does ghost girl look like she

TTS Readerjust got off her shift cooking at hiachi restaurant she looks good the popcorn # fre number8 at 18 it looks like you just got off your at Benny Hana what

Brian Atlasdoes that typically the at Benny Hana or like other Habachi restaurants they typically wear like all black you have like the what a ro like it looks like a restaurant like a more upscale it's like

JosanneSE that's a very like unique roast that was like a weird kind compliment though like the girls who work there are like really pretty are they he's saying

Josannehe's trying to say that she looks like a waitress that just got off the sh yeah he was he's just4 then what does he want her boob like I don't know what I don't know I just feel like they're always like together she doesn't seem to be offended

Brian Atlasokay it's definitely a backhanded I think I look good you look great would you ever be a chef at a Benihana Habachi no

Brian Atlaslike I mean you're cooking like one I don't know thank you all right so we have some pre-show notes provided here let's see we have Lexi you said you were

Tracy (Lexi)charged with two felonies yeah yeah what's you did three years yeah I did like two years and a half almost in prison or jail I did I went to prison oh

Tracy (Lexi)damn I was um 17 got out when I was like 19 almost 20 mhm um adult prison yeah I didn't get you know charged as a juvenile so I went straight to prison

Tracy (Lexi)and it was it was horrible so how old you say 17 what was the uh the crime uh Mis cognitive weapon in a first degree and then is kind of a weapon and a

Tracy (Lexi)second degree out of a moving vehicle out of a moving like out of a moving vehicle it was a drive by shooting yeah I guess you can explain it like that yeah I was young I was dumb okay

Tracy (Lexi)everybody makes mistakes in their human life you know um but me in that two to three years span being in prison I've learned a lot about women and being around women and like stuff like that

Tracy (Lexi)and just how Society is nowadays and how people like me being a felon is hard to get a job and like hard to do things and you know just have a different perspective when it comes to the world like I'm not going to lie like

Tracy (Lexi)when you you girls were saying that you guys have a hard time with her and how she lives her life because of how Society is nowadays in my opinion she's her own person I am my own person she

Tracy (Lexi)can do whatever she wants to do if my significant other or if I feel insecure about what she's going that's like that's like an inner thing like I don't care about yeah like you have to communicate that

Mary Morganwith your partner you know like I'm not going toles of what you learned about women when you were in prison did you date while you were in prison no no but I've seen a lot of

Tracy (Lexi)sexual activities when it came to women I walked in on women you know scissoring in the bathroom and making out in front of me i' yeah I've seen a lot of that you know so

Aaron (straight8)Brian no no to the strip club but yes to like fantasizing about like women hooking up in prison wasn't there a show where did that come from you just said B

Mary Morganwhen she was like oh I kind of in a very monotone way I just said dope okay so is that is that all you learned in prison or are you going to give us other examples um just just how women think

Tracy (Lexi)and the different point of views on how women are nowadays like I've met sex workers in there I've met pimps in there I've met women that have beat the out of men before I've met women that

Tracy (Lexi)were like very feminine and like they were like you know up there with their like a man should be you know like were you were you dating a guy on the outside while you were on the inside I

Tracy (Lexi)was for a little bit and we had actually um split apart during that time because he thought I was actually facing like 5 to 10 years cuz I was and then um because I was so young they decided to

Tracy (Lexi)to not do that I was on pre-trial for a long time so when you're on pre-trial you're actually spending the state's money so the state doesn't like that I did that for like 2 and a half years so it's like pre-trial pre-trial I'm spending money and they're like this

Tracy (Lexi)girl is so young and I had I wrote a letter every single like month to the judge telling him like Hey I made this mistake like I don't want to spend the next 10 years to 5 years wait what can

TTS Readeryou remind me what what was the charge again it was discharge of a firearm from a moving vehicle was that it yeah did you hit somebody or no Sam donated $99 these women on the panel have

TTS Readerbastardized individualism you can't have individualism without accepting personal accountability if you want to do of then you must accept that marriageable men will disqualify you from

Mary Morganrelationships who says I want to get married to a man you want to get married to a porpus what isal you said yes to Dave when he said like

Brian Atlasyou but who said it would be with a man though are so you go both ways yeah oh okay so but like it might disqualify you from women too I don't think so you you

Brian Atlasthink there's no women that would have an issue by women that would have an issue with your past work I think mean the girls it's probably less likely it's maybe a little less but I feel like a lot of people men and women ladies hit

Abigailmy line um what no I think the fact that she's into women makes her the exception to the rule but the exception still doesn't make the

TTS Readerrule Mike Davis donated y Brian myON gain blue saying in it for the money and ain't really about this life are you going to be true to form

TTS Readerand take it like a beta male going to return some smoke I mean I I kind of already addressed it um I spent way too long on it

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