Dave Rubin, Timcast Mary vs. Kicked Off Erin! (HEADACHE) | Dating Talk #112

Date: 2023-10-25

Duration: 5h 13m

Guests

Brian Atlas

LLexi (Escort)>

AAaron (straight8)>

LLauren (Brothel)>

AAngie (DT112)>

TTracy (DT112)>

FFallon (DT112)>

AAbigail (DT112)>

JJosanne (DT112)>

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00TTS Reader(audience)

SPEAKER_01Dave Rubin(guest)

SPEAKER_02Angie(guest)

SPEAKER_03Josanne(guest)

SPEAKER_05Lexi (Escort)(guest)

SPEAKER_06Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_07Aaron (straight8)(guest)

SPEAKER_08Fallon(guest)

SPEAKER_09Tracy (Lexi)(guest)

SPEAKER_10Abigail(guest)

SPEAKER_11Kiki(host)

SPEAKER_12Lauren Roses(guest)

SPEAKER_13Mary Morgan(guest)

Key Moments

IntroBrian Atlas opens show from Santa Barbara, CA.

“welcome to the whatever dating Talk podcast... I am your host Brian Atlas”

IntroAll guests introduce themselves: Lexi (23, Bunny Ranch escort/OF/stripper), Aaron/straight8 (24, streamer, straight edge, vegan, new relationship), Lauren Roses (31, Bunny Ranch courtesan/musician/PR, returning guest), Angie (19, movies/clothing brand), Tracy/Lexi (23, poker player, Alaska), Fallon (18, UCSB sociology), Mary Morgan (23, Timcast commentator), Abigail (20, nanny/gymnastics coach), Dave Rubin (47, Rubin Report, FL, gay married).

Key MomentDave Rubin defends sex workers as individuals doing nothing illegal while not endorsing sex work: "I will defend a human being who is sitting across from me who is doing nothing illegal with her life." Lexi thanks him for treating her like a human being.

“I will defend a human being who is sitting across from me who is doing nothing illegal with her life”

QuoteDave Rubin on finding a partner: "you just have to find somebody that will push you in ways that will make you a little bit better."

“the trick is you just have to find somebody that will just like push you in the ways that will make you a little bit better”

ControversyDave Rubin leaves show after Aaron suggests he debate Sam Seder. Rubin calls Seder "a horrible horrible human being" and calls Aaron "a troll." Offers books to other guests but not Aaron.

“oh you're a troll I knew something was up with you this whole time”

QuoteMary Morgan: "feminism is based on an insidious lie that there is no difference between men and women and that we should be expected to act exactly the same way."

“feminism as an ideology is based on an insidious lie that there is no difference between men and women”

Key MomentBrian states he would disown his daughter if she entered sex work and refused to stop despite all his interventions.

“then yes I would it would be so disappointing to me that I would probably disown my daughter”

Key MomentLauren Roses reveals she has MS and prefers open relationships where her partner can have another woman, out of insecurity about her illness being too much for one person.

“I have MS and so sometimes I think it gets too crazy for people to handle... I want the man to have another woman because...”

QuoteKiki self-rates 7/10. Aaron self-rates 10/10. Brian rates Aaron a 6.

“a solid seven 10 to 10 baby I'm a six I'm a six I'm a 6.5 today”

ControversyAaron accuses Brian of "clip farming" with sex workers — profiting from dunking on them while claiming to condemn sex work. Brian becomes frustrated after ~4 hours of debate.

“this whole show is clip farming this whole show is supposed to be clip farming... you can make your money clip farming and dunking on like all the three fours”

QuoteBrian shouts down panel: "yo yo yo shut up it's my show I will choose when we move on"

“yo yo yo shut up it's my show I will choose when we move on or don't”

ControversyAngie (19yo) reveals she had 4 online sugar daddies as a minor (~17yo), sent partial nude photos via Snapchat, made ~$6,000. Never met any in person. Shocked panel.

“the most was like a thousand in one day like for like 20 pictures... I went to LA for a weekend and that was like 3,000”

Key MomentLexi reveals she has a sugar daddy (48yo NYC man, never married) who gave her his credit card with no spending limit; she is starting to develop feelings for him.

“he's actually given me one of his credit cards so I just use his credit card and then at the end of the month he pays it off... I am starting to catch little feels for this man”

Key MomentLauren Roses reveals she had a sugar couple (married doctors from Chicago).

“I don't have a sugar daddy currently but I remember I had a sugar couple and they were so cool... they were doctors and Chicago”

Key MomentTracy reveals she was charged with two felonies at age 17 for weapons offenses (drive-by shooting) and served ~2.5 years in adult prison.

“I was um 17 got out when I was like 19 almost 20... adult prison yes I didn't get charged as a juvenile so I went straight to prison”

Topics Discussed

Guest introductions and relationship status round

All guests introduce themselves with name, age, occupation. Brian goes around table asking relationship status, longest relationship. Notable: Aaron first relationship ever (3 months); Lauren single since 2021; Tracy newly single after abusive 1.5yr relationship; Lexi single 2.5 years (not seeking relationship); Angie in first relationship (live-in immediately); Dave gay married with twin 1-year-olds.

Sex work debate: dating, respect, parental acceptance

Extended multi-round debate on sex work and dating. Topics: most men do not want to date sex workers (Brian/Mary) vs. simps exist and actions speak louder than words (Aaron). Lexi says parents are supportive of her legal escort work. Lauren describes MS and open-relationship preference due to illness. Mary argues sex work is degrading and debasing. Dave Rubin defends individual rights while not endorsing sex work. Debate on whether viewing/paying for sex work while condemning sex workers is hypocritical (Aaron's line of questioning vs Brian).

Dave Rubin segment: politics, abortion, Disney, libertarianism

Dave Rubin discusses his political philosophy: classically liberal/libertarian-leaning. Voted Trump twice, previously Gary Johnson. Begrudgingly pro-choice; supports state-level abortion regulation; opposes federal abortion ban. Defends DeSantis removing Disney's special privileges as leveling the playing field. Discusses weed legalization concerns. Brian asks if most conservatives share Dave's fair attitude toward sex workers. Dave recommends his books to three guests before leaving.

Dave Rubin exit: Aaron suggests Sam Seder debate

Aaron asks Dave if he would debate Sam Seder. Dave calls Seder "a horrible horrible human being" and "a trash human being." Aaron persists. Dave says "oh you're a troll, I knew something was up with you this whole time." Dave leaves, giving books to some guests. This is the "kicked off Erin" event referenced in the title (Dave leaving, not Aaron being removed).

Pre-show notes: Tracy prison story and relationship history

Brian reads Tracy's pre-show notes. Tracy reveals she was charged with two felonies at 17 (weapons offenses, drive-by shooting); served ~2.5 years in adult prison. Buddhist. Father: Vietnam vet, traditional values. Sister: sex worker, father accepts it. Met ex at club in Alaska; moved in quickly; relationship became abusive; left state and moved to Texas to escape abusive ex-boyfriend.

Feminism debate: damage to dating and relationships

Panel discusses whether feminism has damaged male-female relationships. Mary: feminism asks women to be second-rate men; based on lie that men and women are equal. Aaron: feminism enabled women to have careers and relationships simultaneously; it's a false dichotomy. Dave had argued feminism sold women on career over family wrongly. Lauren: experienced silencing from sex-worker-exclusionary feminists. Abigail: feminism has good intentions but became damaging; women more fulfilled raising kids. Tracy: ambivalent.

Dave Rubin hypocrisy debate (post-Dave)

Aaron argues Dave Rubin's question ("why do you bring sex workers on if you think it's bad?") implied Brian is hypocritical for shaming sex workers while profiting from their presence. Brian disputes the hypocrisy framing. Aaron accused of "clip farming" the show. Abigail tries to clarify Aaron was summarizing Dave's point, not making her own argument. Brian tells everyone to "shut up, it's my show."

Self-ratings round (looks 1-10)

Brian asks everyone to rate their looks 1-10. Kiki (SPEAKER_11): 7. Aaron: self-rates 10 (Brian refuses to rate her, then says 6). Abigail: 6-6.5. Lexi: 6 (Brian says 7). Brian: 6. Partial ratings only; not all guests rated.

Ho phase and past relationships round

Brian asks who has had a ho phase. Lexi (escort): her whole career is her ho phase. Aaron: never (too busy with school/quarantine). Lauren: Playboy days were her ho phase. Tracy: ambivalent. Fallon: no. Abigail: had brief period finding herself after controlling upbringing. Josanne: never. Brian: declines to answer (man of God).

Sugar daddy discussion

Brian asks who has had a sugar daddy. Lexi: yes, 48yo man in NYC who gave her credit card with no limit; developing feelings for him. Lauren: had a sugar couple (Chicago doctors). Angie: had 4 online sugar daddies as a minor (~17yo); never met in person; sent photos; made ~$6,000. Tracy: declined to answer about current new guy. Others: no sugar daddies.

Men's preferences for women: income, height, physical standards

Debate on whether men are "intimidated" by women who out-earn them. Brian: not intimidation but career-focused women adopt masculine traits; money does not make women more attractive. Aaron: dismissing high-earning women as too masculine is unfair without getting to know them. Discussion of height preferences (women wanting tall men): Brian accepts it has biological basis. Debate on whether women's physical standards (body type preferences) are unfair. Brian: women are pickier about physical traits than men; things women care about (height, penis size, physique) are mostly outside men's control.

Body count and partner preferences roundtable

Discussion of whether body count matters for men. Lauren: 1000+ (professional). Tracy: 3. Others declined or unknown. Brian says over 10 is high body count; would not date women with high body count. Aaron: men having that preference is fine if consistent. Mary: does not object to men preferring low body count. Angie: thinks caring about body count is dumb/insecure. Mary: many women rejected for being sexually inexperienced (virgins). Brian: men rejecting virgins is about timeline, not body count itself.

Dating men who out-earn women / career-focused men as fathers

Aaron asks Brian to consider the reverse: woman who prefers a less career-focused man to ensure he will be a present father. Brian tries to distinguish biological realities. Aaron accuses Brian of straw-manning. Lexi shares anecdote of sugar daddy in Texas with 3 baby mamas who praised their co-parenting because he was too busy to parent himself.

Men's preference for not dating transgender women

Brian asks panel if they object to men choosing not to date transgender women. Most guests: no objection; it's a personal preference. Fallon: no objection, they should not have to, does not make them gay. Josanne: not really her concern.

Closing and wrap-up

Brian wraps up. Thanks panel. Notes show was "torture" but show went on ~5 hours. Dave Rubin's segment described as feeling short in retrospect. Brian raids Twitch Discord; thanks subscribers.

Transcript

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Lexi (Escort)your name age and occupation go ahead my name is Lexi uh I'm 22 years old and um I'm a full-time sex worker okay you said 22 right I mean 23 my birthday was in

Brian AtlasSeptember okay 23 full-time s worker and when you say when you say that what what does that entail um I do only fans I dance at strip clubs and I'm also a leg

Lexi (Escort)Coran there you go you've been working on it remember I remembered you did your research yeah I committed it to memory right awesome yeah so I'm a legal cortis which is a legal escort in Nevada Carson City

Brian AtlasNevada at the Bunny Ranch the Bunny Ranch and it wasn't there a one of them burned down right one of the ranches I don't know if it was the Bunny Ranch or a different one Kit Kat kitat the Kit

Brian AtlasKat just like a couple did they get sued by who who owns Kit Kat uh I think it's Madam Madam susette Madam susette but it burned down it was no no I mean the conf

Brian Atlassectionary the Hershey I think it's Hershey I think I feel that's like a trademark that could be a trademark thing oh man I didn't think about people burnt down the I think that's what

Aaron (straight8)happened they got mad yeah okay what about you hi my name is Aaron welcome back thank you Brian uh also

Aaron (straight8)known as straight8 online I'm 24 and my current job is just gig stuff and I'm going to move to Miami soon and then once I do that I'm hopefully going to start streaming fulltime okay where did

Aaron (straight8)the moniker straight aade what's the origin story there uh when I was in seventh grade I everyone thinks I did it like it's a play on

Aaron (straight8)Gatorade yeah I get that part butl that part um but cuz I've been straight edge uh since I was 16 so it's supposed to be in reference to that not just a play on that but yeah are you still straight

Aaron (straight8)edge mhm okay what so what I mean what does it mean to be straight edge to be straight edge you don't drink you don't party drug smoking I don't drink caffeine either I'm also vegan so vegan

Lauren Rosessince I was 16 also okay that's the whole package all right what about you I'm Lauren roses I'm a musician I am 31

Brian Atlasand uh I work at the Bunny Ranch brothel uh in Nevada and I also work for a PR Company too okay how long have you been working uh as a escort corisan I would stay as Bunny Ranch

Brian Atlassince 2018 okay yeah got it all right and you also you this is your second time on the show you're also a shaman I oh I got a

Lauren Rosessh I okay so you said you took a shaman class I did I did so I did a sexual Shaman Retreat you're a sex Shaman I I wish but you wish you're not there yet

Lauren Rosesyou're an apprentice sex Shaman I'm trying Junior sex Shaman I I'm into uh sacred sexuality and I'm very into Tantra okay um in I'm going to Florida

Lauren Rosesin February uh and there's a tantra practitioner I'm going to be working with uh for another Retreat and I'm super excited have you played World of Warcraft at all um I never played it but

Brian AtlasI've heard of it cuz like Shaman like it's a class you know so like did you play horde or Alliance oh horde or are we talking vanilla so it was just horde so like orc troll or Torin whenever I

Brian Atlasthink of horde I think of split and he was a horde like what was your build like were you Resto enhancement Elemental like what was your spec oh man um I didn't for rating like typically

Brian Atlasraiding in classic like you're only going to be playing Resto but like some guilds that are a bit more relaxed they might allow like an elemental or Enhancement Shaman Elementor Shaman

Angiesounds really cool okay got it all right what about you U my name's Angie I'm 19 and I work at the movies and I have a clothing brand got it what's tell us your what your clothing Infinity apparel

Angieit's this I have like stacked sweatpants with like rhinestone as you could see okay yeah I just started like six months ago are you also a student too or just just working right now I actually moved here to be a student and then I dropped

Angieout why did you uh you were going to Santa Barb City College going to yeah I was going to City College and it was just too much to like make enough to like live and go to school you know so it was just too much to go to school and

Tracy (Lexi)make a living so I just choose to like work fulltime okay got it what about you my name is Tracy but I go by Lexi I work at PS and I'm a full-time poker player

Fallonage 23 23 okay welcome what about you hi my name is Fallon I'm 18 and um I a second year at UCSB what are you

Mary Morganstudying at uh UCSB sociology sociology okay all right all right uh my name is Mary Morgan I am a commentator

Mary Morganat timcast media I'm on a show called pop culture crisis and I'm 23 years old

Abigailmy name is Abigail I'm 20 years old and um I'm a nanny and also a boys gymnastics coach all right welcome thank you I'm

Dave RubinDave Ruben I'm 47 years old which feels really old suddenly at this table and uh I host the Reuben report and I've written a couple books and uh I live in the Free State of Florida and I've

Dave Rubinreturned I've returned to California did you previously you previously lived in California la for eight years got the hell out of here during Co I've been very tempted to get out of California

Brian Atlasmaybe Florida maybe uh maybe Las Vegas no income tax you know so you should only move to Florida if you want to live a happy life and save a lot of money and live fre what what would what uh

Dave Rubinprecipitated you to uh move oh it was every coid taxes just the crime the drugs the homeless just the whole thing I got audited by the state three days

TTS Readerafter the recall which I campaigned for that'll that'll do it that'll do it okay well oh beaten cheeks donated $99 one of my favorite conservative

TTS Readervoices Dave ruin please educate these girls on how bad the degeneracy is in the world to these lips don't hold back your punches like on other platforms

TTS Readeralso how are these brokies like herin moving to Miami Destinies would you like to comment on that Ain no I wish Destiny or somebody else was financing my but no I'm doing

Aaron (straight8)that myself he's not like helping you out like sugar daddying no okay he should cut me a check I've been on his stream enough like one of his most viewed videos is like us debating on at

Brian Atlasut oh the change my mind segment the change my mind segment okay got it what what was the topic on that it was uh uh wokeness has gone too far oh okay interesting and then also um we have

Brian Atlasjosanne here you may recognize her from previous appearances she's also in the chat a lot uh she's going to be joining the the panel a little bit later on probably in about 2 hours we have uh we're doing a little switch out because

Brian Atlasuh we have uh Dave will be here for about two hours so we have him for two hours then Josie will come on in so all right uh we're going to go around the table once more so please tell us your

Brian Atlasrelationship status so are you you know are you single are you in a relationship um are you uh polyamorous

Brian Atlassituationship talking stage polycule sex Harum uh if you're single how long have you been single and what's your current

Lexi (Escort)relationship or excuse me uh your longest relationship go ahead I'm currently single I do not wish to be in a relationship anytime soon um my

Lexi (Escort)longest relationship has been 4 years in the past okay and I've been single for about two and a half years all

Lexi (Escort)right you said you do not wish to to be in a relationship is that correct why is that because I'm focusing on my career right now so I don't see a future in uh

Brian Atlasme being in a relationship with anybody right now focusing on your career yes okay so you're you're focusing on your work yes how long do you want to be involved do you think in the industry um

Lexi (Escort)so I'm 23 right now uh I have a plan to make my money and save my money and then invest and and uh I'm going to be starting to go to

Lexi (Escort)school soon so sure um yeah right now I'm like happy with what I'm doing with my life so I don't

Aaron (straight8)know when I will be wanting to ever get into a relationship right now you know what I mean so what about you I am in a relationship of three

Aaron (straight8)months now practically I know huge change wow okay last cuz last time you were on you were single if yep never been in a relationship never been on a

Kikidate now I've done both so I am surprised why congratulations I'm such a cat wow Brian

Brian Atlas[Music] damn um how did you guys meet the guy how did you guys meet uh from the show like he dm' you he's like oh my God I see you on whatever I love you no he's not red filled so he didn't watch

Aaron (straight8)whatever he could have been hate watching no he wouldn't waste his time like so but we did meet because he wouldn't waste his time hate watching that's what I mean do you think he's watching right

Brian Atlasnow I know he's watching right now I was messaging him right before oh so he would waste his time hate watching but he's not hate watching he's watching for me like yeah but if I weren't on the show he would not

Aaron (straight8)watch okay go on so how did you guys meet uh we met through me just streaming he's actually in Destiny's Community um

Aaron (straight8)hit me up is he also a streamer uh yeah what what I know his name is he YouTube YouTube small twitch uh twitch

Aaron (straight8)uh his name is yeah twitch kick he's no not yet no only fans yet either what's next his name is uh his at is like in cooks and he does like gaming

Brian Atlasand he's going to start doing like cooking content so it's cook C ly Cooks okay all right congrats thank we're

Lauren Rosesreally happy congratulations what about you um so I guess my my longest situationship I will say was 5 years and that was that was pretty interesting I

Lauren Roseswas only like 18 at the time but then um I think my longest relationship like 2ish almost three um I'm single now and

Lauren Rosesif I was in a relationship I would need it open on the guys end uh because now I kind of have a new situation and uh I

Lauren Rosesfeel comfortable if they have someone else there uh if things get too crazy uh with me yeah uh well what's your current

Lauren Rosesrelationship status single single okay and then how long have you been single I'll probably say like since I started back at the ranch that was 200 I

Lauren Rosesdon't know if it was 2021 or right after Co so I said 2021 2021 right after like 2 3 years single

Angieokay got it all right what about you I'm in my first relationship and we live together and we've been together for like 3 months okay yeah three months you

Angieguys Liv together already we moved in like a week after we met cuz he didn't have a place to stay oh he moved in with you and I just like and oh you guys it's like it's like college life you know so we met and then he kind of just stayed

Angiewith me and I was like don't leave and then he just now yeah now we all live together wait are you are you guys housemates or roommates housemates so did you have a roommate yeah I moved

Angielike three different places and he likes just went with me to each one but now he helps pay so okay so it's it's you your boyfriend you and my boyfriend and your

Tracy (Lexi)boyfriend okay got it okay what about you um I am newly single so I just got single yeah I just got on my relationship of like one year and a half

Tracy (Lexi)up with who may it was Mutual I meant like cuz the communication and us not talking was a very tough time for us and he's a lot older so um we just decided

Brian Atlasto part ways how much older is he he's 32 32 got it okay and you're 23 it um and so it was a mutual breakup mhm you

Tracy (Lexi)guys were together for how long again a year and a half a year and a half okay by the way we did meet at a club so I would just suggest you know slow things down get others wait what's the thing about the club you know how she said just sorry hold on

TTS Readerjust and cheeks donated $99 Erin since you seem to like a feminized boy you and Dave have something in common liking the same seex

TTS Readerexcept Dave's Alpha type unlike the boy you have how cute it is women like the first three why Dave quit on women in the

Dave Rubinworld Dave did you ever date women I I did did long I didn't know that yeah why did you quit women I retired you retired yeah yeah

Aaron (straight8)yeah I got out of the grind you know who needs it sure do you have a response Aaron to beaten cheeks uh no but money well spent telling me that my boyfriend's feminized is is he feminized would you consider

Aaron (straight8)your boyfriend feminized I don't know who he is so no he's a veteran so you bet you at Marine Corps yeah he's in the Marines Okay cool so I mean they're

Brian Atlasthey're dudes in the Marine Corps but he wasn't one of them okay wait did did does be and cheeks know your boyfriend no cuz be and cheeks Air Force was oh be

Brian Atlasand cheeks was in the Air Force who who is this is this cheeks you do not know who beaten Cheeks is no wow okay you going to inform me who is it is it like

Brian Atlasa ship he's very he's very notable person on the internet he's he's kind of famous beaten cheeks cheeks um he can't be that

Tracy (Lexi)famous gotcha uh I think we were we left off with you the thing about the club um she said that you know you just met your significant other um and you guys just booed in right away just that's very

Tracy (Lexi)fast I did that with also my significant other we had met at the club and then like a week later we were we were with each other every single day and then I moved in with him fairly quick so it's

Tracy (Lexi)probably like how quickly did you move in with your now ex-boyfriend um well we met at the club and then he just started staying at my house like every single day me to yeah yeah right and then sometimes it be like that

Tracy (Lexi)though like can you find that a little bit off ping I'm me Alaska's really small so everybody knows everybody Alaska yeah I'm from Alaska inkage and shout out to my hometown you know but

Tracy (Lexi)everybody knows everybody and so we kind of just met outside the club you know took him home that night and then we were with each other every single day for like a year and a half and I moved

Lexi (Escort)with him like a mon later that gives me the ick why you say that why is that yeah I mean I don't know I just feel like that's too soon yeah no that's that

Lexi (Escort)situation guys wanting to like move in right away and you know what I mean mhm that's well I was he homeless do you like hom that's why he has his own house like

TTS Readerhe has a three-story house oh sorry hold on grid One Motorsports $99 at least Dave went out on top someone paid $100 for that welcome

Kikiwelcome to the whatever podcast they just good one what's my cut on that g one thank you man um so did he just get out of prison no no we just met at a

Brian Atlasclub and then that same he has a three-story house but he moved in with you no I moved in with him I moved in with him oh you moved in with him for some reason so I got rid of my Lee and then did anybody else hear he moved in with that's what I thought that's what I

Tracy (Lexi)thought I think you mentioned said he came and then he never left your place yeah like so the night like that we met he was at my house like the whole week so I kind of did think that he was like had nowhere to go you know and then next

Dave Rubinthing later like I pulled up to his house I'm like holy cow like he's got his together you know I'm a little out of the game most people are just dating cuz they're looking for housing now that basically

Tracy (Lexi)what's IDE you know so it was just like I didn't just see his house and was like oh I want to move in it was like I I already had my own place and he asked me hey do you want to move in and so that's what I did so we started our

Brian Atlasrelationship off like that was that was that the case for you you moved in for early on for financial reasons no there I've definitely seen these memes online of people like trying to get linked up

Lexi (Escort)in a relationship to save money on rent have you seen those seen that hope he's not watching no I did not pay no bills so that doesn't give me the ick as like you know what I mean because he you had

Lexi (Escort)your own place then he asked you to move in with him mhm that's like cool yeah you know also let's just but the other way around is kind of weird you know what I mean yeah that' be really weird let's define what the ick is what is the

Brian Atlasick what is ick how do you define the the ick is there a difference between ick and the ick what is

Abigailthe the I is when is about something and then there's just no going back your opinion on that person or whatever it is can't be changed because you were just

Dave Rubinso so grossed out or weirded out by it I know if you don't clean your aquarium water enough you get ick you get you get

Abigailthe ick or do you get ick the fish get the ick they get the got clean the I'm not sure you're talking about something else or and I think what makes it the ick also

Mary Morganis it's just a switch randomly like you feel fine and then and then there's no going back have you felt the ick before I think every girl has I think so it's when your brain switches from thinking

Abigaillike this is a potential mate to no I feel like it's might be the equivalent cuz I don't know cuz I'm not a dude but it could be the equivalent to post nut Clarity maybe uh oh goodness there is

Lauren Rosesgoing back cuz you could get horny again so never mind maybe but it's just kind of like ew yeah there's post qual rage where a man gets angry after an orgasm like

Lauren Rosesand yeah they and they get and I have to ask you know experience yeah I've had that experience have you Dave have you have you shut it down that's it there's

Brian Atlasthis Dave Chappelle has a joke I think it's related to Louis CK for but a man who has just ejaculated is the least threatening there is that's

Brian Atlaswhat I thought fair enough unless much testosterone there's there's trauma yeah unless you have trauma like sexual

Brian Atlastrauma you you ad you you climax and then you a lot at the Bunny Ranch a this happens in the regular is this a

TTS Readerwork this how that place burned down yes sated $99 did the guy that move in with that female not only have bad financial

TTS Readerproblems but was he also in 300 credit score with the IRS coming after him no way in my desperate broke days would I move in with such a creature you don't

Brian Atlaseven have a credit card such a creature so how how how long have you guys been together three months three months he's he's just now starting to pay a little

Angiebit of rent you should pay all the bills a month in but I pay for food I pay for like I drive home do you like that Arrangement we're going to get better

Brian Atlashopefully it's working it's you know look it's I just had a conversation with him yesterday about it but we're going to just see what happens but I mean you really like him right you like him and you feel Asda it's it's worth it because

Angieyou really like the guy yeah I want to bring up a week is a bit early though yeah I do feel like moving in after just a week it was like we were both in a situation where like we kind of needed to mov in like same with her like we

Angiewere all in a situation like we needed to just like move so it kind like colge wait but you said you moved like four or five times in the past three times in the past three

Angiemonths yeah what's what's going on it just didn't work out with the roommates and then yeah like you didn't like them or yeah well the first one the first ones we were too loud and then they said

Angiewe were going to get evicted if we didn't move out so we moved and then the next ones they were too messy and like we just didn't really get along that well and I had my boyfriend at my house all the time and they didn't really like

Aaron (straight8)that and then this is the third house okay good times what's the appropriate time that people usually wait before they move in with someone though H marriage I would say I think

Abigailmost people probably do it in the first 6 months no when you know it's till death do you part cuz now you don't have to deal with moving out and you're just putting yourself in a vulnerable situation with someone that you're not

Mary Morgansure if you're spending your life with that just doesn't seem like smart if you buy a place together I think it would be vulnerable but if you're just renting and you there's like just this level of familiarity that I don't want to have

Mary Morganwith my boyfriend before we're married yeah like I want there to be at least some mystery there if you're I want him to see me at my best you know if you at

Aaron (straight8)that's why you wouldn't move in like until you're married it's one of the reasons yeah if you I feel like if you want to know if your relationship's going to be like resilient I feel like you probably should move in together so you can really see if you guys are

Mary Morgancompatible like cohabitating in the same space I believe that you can get to know someone well enough without moving in together I agree and in fact there are

Mary Morganextra pressures that are introduced once you move move in together that are not helpful to Discerning a lifelong commitment with someone that's what I was going to say about that can I add

Abigailsomething okay if you look at statistics too your relationship or your marriage is likely going to last longer if you wait it out and you don't move in together so if you care about this guy

Abigailor if you're a guy and you care about the girl and you want the relationship to last it's not a bad idea to look at the statistics and follow them I've seen those but I know that there's going to be selection bias because the people who

Aaron (straight8)are more likely to abstain from living together before they get married are also usually religious and most religious people are also going to be resistant to like separating or getting divorced so that kind of skews that statistic I think most people you know

AbigailSociety becoming like increasingly like secular and do you think that that like defines the statistic is just religious people no it's just a bias to keep in

TTS Readermind yeah but I don't think it makes a big enough difference donated $100 thank you man appreciate it for men moving in with a woman too early is a risk a year lease with a soul sucker 2,000 as a

TTS Readerroommate can destroy your life not something to do right out of the gate honstly if a toothbrush appears in the first month fail thank you grid One Motorsports much

Mary Morganappreciated I think also if you need to end a relationship you're less likely to when you have this financial pressure of moving out so if there is a good reason to end a relationship ship you're going to feel like oh but then I'll have to

Mary Morganpay my own rent I can't split rent anymore all these different things so can keep you in an unhealthy situation you also those financial pressures are going to exist even in marriage though like people who would probably be better

Aaron (straight8)off separating and not being married any longer probably more likely to remain in a relationship that's not satisfying for them just for financial reasons which is to me not the cor I mean I don't believe

Mary Morganthat a marital relationship exists to satisfy each indiv idual and make you feel individually fulfilled it's about

Lauren Rosesthe other person my doctor told me I shouldn't ever live alone like with my conditions so they they said you should never live alone and I'm just like oh

Abigailokay uh also when you move in with them early it's hard to know if you're like moving in with the person or with how the person's making you feel and the way

Abigailthat person is making you feel is likely going to change so it's just a better idea to wait it out get to know the person and really know who you're moving in with when you say it's going to

Abigailchange do you mean like in a negative direction or positive it's possible it's possible that the way that you feel about the person is going to change in a negative Direction and now you're not going to feel very good in your own home

Aaron (straight8)and you're want to get you're going to want to get out it happens the opposite could happen too I think it's just it could but that's why you wait it out and figure out to see but that RIS I don't think that reason alone would be a reason to not move in together or like

Aaron (straight8)before marriage or I guess just quickly because you could always discover something about your partner that is like either or makes you not like them anymore many reasons why you shouldn't move in with them early ever like until

Abigailyou get married it's there's circumstances where I guess but um it's if you look at the statistics you shouldn't move in and the exception doesn't really make the rule I mean

Mary Morganpersonally not a good idea what I practice and what I believe is abs until marriage so for anyone who has that value uh and aspires toward that living together is not a good idea just

TTS Readerpragmatically it's a bad idea so that's another reason why I don't live with my boyfriend Seven Deadly simps donated $100 yeah thank you man hey Erin he is

TTS Readerhoping you don't get kicked off again speaking of which are you still a virgin have you done the deed yet shacked boned

TTS Readerbanged screwed nailed scored smashed boarded the beef bus 777 Des

TTS Reader77 you said do you 7 you the question I I didn't say I was

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Aaron (straight8)777 million 77 7,777 do you want to answer them yeah you think people assume from your community that I was a virgin I got way I saw way more speculation that like ah

Brian Atlasshe's probably had a train ran through her that's why she doesn't want to answer which college did you go to uh I went to utrgv do they have like a D1 basketball team no okay football

Aaron (straight8)team or is that D3 or well I I have no clue like where it's part of the UTA Network or whatever I know people care about like the Longhorns or whatever but utg is like a border University it's

Brian Atlaspart of that system though okay not known for sports no no Greek I don't think we have Greek life either so yeah just bringing it back to the whole um cohabitation thing I and to grid One

Brian AtlasMotorsports his uh his TTS I do think it's certainly a risk to move in way way too early because you don't know the person well enough yet and uh you've basically I'm almost looking at it from

Brian Atlasa legal liability point of view where you basically have established a tendency and if you don't like this person you would you may have to go through the process of actually evicting

Aaron (straight8)this person who we're not on the lease trining order all we're not on the Le squ rights if they stay there like 30 days you guys aren't on the lease where

Aaron (straight8)at our house yeah but you guys are Le legally whether you have a written lease or not they're a tenant you're your yes if they've had a piece of mail delivered to your residents in their name or they've been there for like 30 days I think that establishes tendency and if

Fallonyou wanted them to leave you would have to go to like a court to have them evicted formally but anything it's cuz we're not allowed we're not technically we're not allowed well it doesn't matter you're technically in the eyes of the law

Brian Atlasyou're technically tenc but what I'm saying is if if you like moveing your girlfriend or you moveing with her um I from from the male perspective if you have some girl who you just met moved

Brian Atlasinto your house and you haven't properly vetted her and it doesn't work out romantically she technically could stay there and you would have to evict her and that could

Aaron (straight8)take months to get her out meanwhile she's you don't know what the situation could be so what if it's like because what you're talking about I think is really volatile where if it's like you just happen into it because they didn't

Aaron (straight8)leave you know like oh they just stayed and then after 30 days or whatever then that's the situation but what if like a couple after like 2 months is like we want to move out of our own places and move in together sign a lease and do it properly would you say that's as

Brian Atlasvolatile two months is certainly a longer screening process than one week uh I still think it I would wait much longer than that though so like how much

Mary Morgan6 months minimum minimum honestly I don't even recommend it though I think in in the interest of girls I don't think that they should be performing wely duties for their boyfriend like

Brian Atlasyou're not going to be doing your Bo laundry on the first Mary on the first dat Mary on the first date you bring a girl over you have her fold your laundry have you done this Brian I have done it

Brian Atlasto see how what do they laundry sandwich get the basic out I'm like if a girl if a girl just gets right into it boom boom boom starts folding she does it all expertly and and she bows that's

Brian AtlasESS like bow Nick can you find that that video if she bows it's I'm I'm going to marry her we're doing this all it's a little pillman on there exactly but moving in together doesn't mean that you have to start doing the wely duties you

Mary Morgancould totally div I think a lot of girls unintentionally fall into situation where they start acting like a wife to convince the guy to propose to them and that is not the way to do it what is the

Lexi (Escort)guy providing exctly like pick me choose me cuz I fold your laundry I'm going to fold your laundry on the first dat mean I'm come over hold your laundry on the first day that's like if he gets a maid

TTS Readerand a sex worker essentially like why would he marry you in the first place I mean if it's so crazy grid One Motorsports donated $100

TTS Readerchick moves in gets the gets drunk and pissed next thing you know she has the Copus there and D catches a case Playing with Fire gets you burned just rescued a

Brian Atlasfriend from this one in the chat if you know this song yeah I mean there's also like that potential risk there when you're cohabitating like uh there's you

Brian Atlasknow also a lot of uh like if there's even if it's like inter what's it called intra partner violence and it's like M Mutual or something not that I'm

Brian Atlasadvocating that somebody do that but uh there's like the duth model so even if she's the aggressor you're going to get arrested as the guy in a domestic

Brian Atlassituation so there's definitely some in addition to like tendency issues there's other legal liabilities with cohabitating there's biases against men when it comes to like the the duth model

Brian Atlasthat we'll just assume even if who pretty much the bigger person is going to get arrested even if the the smaller person was the aggressor so you don't think they should

Mary Morganendure that turned into such a stupid clip that got so blown out of proportion like at least we can by the way I didn't say I didn't say anything during that

Mary Morganentire segment I was neither did I and I also said that divorce is definitely permissible in the cases of abuse and and I was accused by Destiny of

Mary Morgansaying the opposite and he said you 1,00% hate abuse victims and I mean you couldn't look at a a more obvious straw man than that that was insane I guess

Aaron (straight8)cuz like MLD is more aligned with you guys ideologically and like not you but you what am I you don't know what you you what do you think I am I'm making assum I don't think I agree with MD

Brian Atlasabout almost anything I disagree I mean first I certainly disavow the statement he made but uh yeah well I I was going to say like I don't think it's unreasonable for the audience to assume

Aaron (straight8)that you guys are just more ideologically similar you know and that they will take your silence or like a lack of push back on some on someone saying something as egregious as that as like AED endorsement whether or not it's

Brian Atlasright or wrong I'm saying I think that's what happens like the assumption is made yeah that's what happens but I mean and I I had a conversation with Destiny about this and he kind of echoed

Brian Atlasbasically exactly what you said I mean I don't think unless a person unless you hear the explicitly says something that even if they're just sitting next to somebody or they agree with them on

Aaron (straight8)certain other things that that necessarily means that they agree with them on everything I guess cuz it's such an outrageous claim that like statement for MLD to say for it to just be like for you as the host to like Let IT stand

Aaron (straight8)and not be like to be clear guys I disavow like that's his perspective not mine like let's say hypothetically you invited a Neo-Nazi on your platform okay I don't think I would do that but okay okay so you like hypothetically you

Aaron (straight8)invite this guest on and they start saying just some crazy okay about Jews being really really racist anti-semitic like bigoted in that instance is this girl a buzz kill or what go ahead continue if they if they

Brian Atlassaid something like that would you not feel like speaking up to make sure like hey I don't endorse that it's an extreme but I mean that that's a very extreme example first off I would say I would

Brian Atlasnot invite somebody like that on my platform to begin with um but uh I I would also say that we were like 4 and 1 half hours five five hours into that

Brian Atlaspodcast M I was I was actually not even doing that much talking even as the host for that episode um and I don't know if you recall I like literally got up and like laid down for 10 minutes cuz I was

Aaron (straight8)having like I have the neck issues neck issues so I was kind of checked out to be honest but like yeah I mean so final answer you should not endure you should

Aaron (straight8)not wanted to if there was ever like I guess an outrageous claim made if there was ever something that you would feel like I just have to say I don't agree because to let it stand might give the wrong impression look um look but if you're saying you don't endorse it I

Brian Atlasbelieve you I I didn't I don't endorse it and and look um I believe whether you're a man or woman you have the right to leave an abusive marriage and get a

Brian Atlasdivorce um this is so controversial yes yeah and uh it was hard for him for MLD MLD he's his own individual he's entitled to his own opinion on the topic

Aaron (straight8)he was also I think eight white claws deep so yeah oh was he getting wasted she should burn the dinner then if she doesn't want to I have a feeling even if

Brian Atlasyou were sober dead sober would have said like I could be wrong he's welcome to prove me wrong in any case whether he was drunk or not I certainly disagree with his position excuse me disavow uh

Fallonbut moving on let's let's get through the intros for people's relationship status uh what I think we left off with you what about you um I'm currently in my first relationship we've been

Fallontogether for like the same time like 3 months okay but we've been like talking kind of like hooking up not really talking

Fallonwith other people no no no with each other since January oh so you were in a situationship and now you're we weren't really in a situationship we were just

Fallonhooking up friends of benefits was it open like you guys were w Really friends yeah you hated each other no we just

Brian Atlasdidn't really talk unless he was there what do you mean there like at my place so he would come over hook up leave pretty much that was it does he

Mary Morganlive with you now yeah okay how's that going it's a necessitous great it's going great okay yeah Mary what about you relationship status I'm in my first and only relationship so far it's about

Abigaila year old all right um I'm married I've been married for about 6 months now are we still saying how long of um our longest lasting

Abigailrelationship is uh just what your longest relationship is yeah a year well almost a year but yeah I'm currently married and that's your longest relationship no my previous relationship was my longest

Abigailrelationship how long have you been married I've been married for 6 months but before we were married we were friends we weren't necessarily like in a relationship well did he propose when you were friends well the situation is

Abigailkind of funny we've been best friends for over 2 years and we were really close really good friends and then I got in that relationship that I was talking

Abigailabout before the one that was almost a year um broke up with that guy and then um he swooped in kind of not really it I didn't break up with this guy for my

Abigailcurrent husband but I did know in the back of my head like like he was an option he was a possibility and so then the conversation came up we would be like you know we'd make a really good

Abigailmarried couple um cuz we just get along so well and then after that conversation came up things kind of changed we actually fell for each other uh and we both have God we have the same moral

Abigailsame values it was really just too perfect to say no so we got married wait just just point of clarification how long were you guys romantically dating before you got married um

Brian Atlasum maybe four months okay so friends for a period of time four months dating friend four months married how long were you best friends for uh 2 years how long were you engaged two years okay sorry

AbigailI'm trying to put it together wait you were best friends while in a relationship uh when I was in that relationship the Friendship kind of faded and then at the end of the relationship we got back on being best

Abigailfriends but no out of respect for the my boyfriend at the time I kind of like took a step back and he understood why and he had no problem with it okay

Brian Atlasanother point of clarification your you said your previous relationship was how long it was almost a year it was maybe like 10 months okay so you break up with him how soon after breaking up with your

Brian Atlas10-month boyfriend did you get into dating your now husband maybe like becoming technical 4 months I think I don't know I've never really thought about it probably about four months I think that's really cool

Lauren Roseshow he could witness you being in love and still be there cuz there's some people that are like you know well he wasn't interested in me and I wasn't interested in him but he still was your friend and cared about he wasn't like

AbigailI'm leaving like cuz he didn't have like no he wasn't just friendzoned he he had his other in you know and no no no he

Abigailpulls MH he pulled like crazy so no he yeah before we were married dets so he didn't he didn't like just wait and wait and hope for me to finally uhuh wait did

Abigailyou guys alope or was there an engagement or did you just alope no we got we got married in a church there there he didn't like propose to me like will you marry me we kind of were just like yeah let's get married so

Abigailtechnically we were engaged from that point so like he didn't like it's kind of on his knees like nothing like that no not not anything cuz since our relationship started out as a best

Abigailfriendship that isn't really us like the whole romantic or what do you mean it morphed yeah like him getting on his

Dave Rubinknee and proposing to me it's just not really us mhm you know word uh Dave what about you uh well I've been married for eight years we've been together for 13

Dave Rubinyears he's a dude which is interesting to people we have we have two one-year-olds and uh I'm feeling very old right now cuz there's been several words that I have not understood can I

Dave Rubinlet me translate for you what were was it what was it was it ick was that one was one and then there there was there was what was the poll what's the pull it's when you like he pulls get girls he

Brian Atlaspulls he just W he's pulling I got it got it okay all right got it and you said you're married right how long have you been married for eight years eight years together about 13 yeah got wow

Dave Rubinokay which in straight years that's like 50 years basically that's wow yeah that's a long time is it okay interesting God what do you mean by Straight ears well me because people think gay don't have like normal

Mary Morganrelationship so if you've been with for eight years and you're gay it's like 20 I have never heard of that learn something new every and two one-year-olds gay people that do have

Dave Rubinlong-term relationships but then the mo majority of them don't I guess I don't know we we actually don't even have that many gay friends like the few that we do are couples that have been together for

Dave Rubina while but with kids usually when did you stop dating women like a little bit after college I tried I really tried did you know did you know

Dave Rubinthe time but you just yeah kind of but like I was trying you know what I mean like I was really trying you wanted to be yeah it's also like I'm 47 so I was in college in the early 90s it's very it

Dave Rubinwas very different it was very different back then than it was now like there was no you couldn't be like normal and gay or anything like that was before gay marriage it was like it was like what

Dave Rubinthe hell is this thing you know what I mean so um so I tried I I the girls were themselves at you I owe a lot of girls from back then a lot of apologies because because like girls always love

Dave Rubinme and I just like I try but I pulled I pulled I was pulling pulling was pulling yeah he pulled he pulled unun he wanted to he would yeah yeah but not everything

Dave Rubinwas working if you know what I mean and uh yeah got so D yeah but as far as the moving in and everything else you guys were talking about like if you love the person and it's the right person that you're supposed to be with it doesn't matter if you've been together for two

Dave Rubinmonths like if it's legit and real and you know the person and it's not just cuz you they need a bed and you need some cashh and like you're supposed to be with them then it really there's no rule you could be with them for six

Dave Rubinmonths in move in you there are people you will find people that have been together for 40 years that knew each other for two weeks and they were like that's the oneir then you do it you got to you got you got adventure with did

Dave Rubinyou go to college you went to college uh where did you go Sunni Bingington up Upstate New York oh okay was there like was it a party school kind of or not I was a major pothead you were oh you were a was yeah I guess it was just a lot of

Dave Rubinweed it was a lot of lot of weed was there kind of like walking around Santa Barbara actually not a lot of weed have you been here before by the way a couple times yeah but it's been a while um and so would you uh when did you graduate

Brian Atlasfrom University 98 98 would you say I mean you probably witnessed things was there cuz in colleges there there is uh certainly at least today there's definitely quite a big hookup culture

Dave Rubinwas there a hookup culture oh yeah back in the college man yeah col everyone's I mean your basic I think actually it seems probably back then people were probably having sex more I think people

Dave Rubinprobably now between porn and uh whatever like you're just getting off in different ways where back then you actually like if you wanted to like get off you had to like find somebody to get off with old school you know body yeah

Aaron (straight8)you have sex with someone else it was weird yeah Brian you said hookup culture but as far as I know aren't Zoomers like losing their virginity later and later I is there like a statistic or

Aaron (straight8)well that is that is true are having less sex than Millennials did at their own age yeah like there's all this talk about like how the younger generation like Millennials on the cusp and like Zoomers specifically like hookup culture

Aaron (straight8)and like a bunch but um I don't believe that the case and I think that's like a reason why there's kind of like this loneliness epidemic amongst like boys particularly but like Zoomers in general waiting longer and longer to

Mary Morganhave sex so they party less they socialize less of course that means that they have less relation ship they have less sex yeah so like I don't find the hookup culture really I feel like that's getting phased out if anything I mean

Dave Rubinthe thing is you can get everything so easily now right like you can get every human connection you want whether it's sexual or emotional or anything basically from your phone dating yeah simulation it but not the real thing H

Dave Rubinyeah so it's a huge problem because there you used to like actually have to go to like have any of you ever gone to a bar by yourself and just like sat at the bar and see if a guy and seen if a

Dave Rubinguy like hits on you or even just a drink have a drink by yourself like there's something about that like in the old days like if you were meeting a friend at the bar at the movies before you had a phone right like you had to stand there and then you would and then

Dave Rubinyou would people watch you'd actually just like look at people and like we've just sort of devolved all of that so our brains are just never not hooked into the Matrix and I think that that's added to a lot of the kind of loneliness and

Lexi (Escort)craziness that it seems like a lot of people in their 20s are feeling right now MH and then I think it's linked to a lot of like depression and anxiety too because you're so like isolated yeah why are men so afraid to approach women

Lauren Rosesthese days me too TV news and things it never seems that nothing bad is reported about a woman doing something but it's always like I mean growing up my mom was police officer so she would always you know

Lauren Roseskind of you know just from her own experience she'd say oh You better lock the door because you know a man could come in and and and and you know stranger danger mindset yeah and here's you know as a young girl I'm like oh my gosh men and scary you know me like this

Lauren Roseslittle thing I need to protect like so so it maybe just that conditioning maybe over time and and yeah but I've heard some interesting crazy stories about women too like doing things but I'm like man why wasn't this on the news like it needs to be equal proportion I think

Mary Morganlike there's obviously the fear of rejection in there too it's not just me too right like oh certainly there are a lot of insecure men out there that really don't want to face the possibility of rejection so they will

Mary Morgannever put themselves out there at all but then again on the other side women need to learn how to reject Men Without You know being rude to them and having some Grace about it like that that's

Brian Atlaskind of a lost art is rejecting someone in a generous way yeah I 100% agree um I mean I think

Brian Atlasand I think a lot of men have the experience of maybe they're a little shy or nervous but they're not otherwise being creepy or a jerk or an and they'll approach a girl and it's like a

Brian Atlasjust a train wreck and not some women will graciously reject a guy hey oh thank you very much I have a boyfriend whatever whatever um but a lot of men will have the experience of going

Brian Atlasup to a girl and it's like it can be pretty brutal um the ways in which men get rejected um certainly in like a party type environment if there's alcohol involved even a guy who like in

Brian Atlasa very polite way goes up to a girl like they when alcohol is involved people can be very OB noxious and brutal and and also with social media you have like men

Brian Atlasare also scared of like being like they don't want to come off like a creep not just in that moment but then like if the girl goes and tells all her friends oh this guy came up to me

Brian Atlasand approached me and I don't know so she can record you yeah I think the other thing too is because because of dating apps like before it was if you wanted to meet somebody you had to

Brian Atlasapproach them in person in some capacity otherwise you pretty much like there was no dating app so GD motor donated

TTS Reader$1 normally I would ask what the girls bring to a relationship besides sex but since the I is a thing how about they discuss what men should bring to the relationship and what should men be

Brian Atlaswilling to endure for the pleasure of the company uh okay so how about littleit SAR men should bring to the relationship and which a men be willing for the pleasure of their

Brian Atlascompany what what should men bring to the table is that the question pretty much okay I guess we we could go around that on that what do you think men should bring to the

TTS Readertable Arin and joyer donated $100 Erin just know there is someone out there for everyone for you it's a therapist Erin learned long ago that the

TTS Readeramount of time people can tolerate her is directly proportional to the amount of cleavage phys would you dat and or fell at Brian huh do you feel comfortable with me answering that your viewer your Aaron

Aaron (straight8)and joyer over here is sexually harassing you paying to sexually harass you me yeah both of us I feel like he's objectifying you and he's asking me if I would like have sex with you whatever I

Brian AtlasI don't think that's well he says date and or fate and or fate true so it could be one or the other it could be both let's assume you weren't currently having in your first

Brian Atlasrelationship like would I would would you I'd go on a out on a date with you you're a handsome guy oh thank you I you know what I could have happened after last show we could have got some food I

Aaron (straight8)know I kicked you off you kicked me off I should have been wait and then after I got kicked off even though you said you didn't care about the answer you did ask pixie if I was a virgin you're like just throw your friend under the bus

Aaron (straight8)you tell her and then you asked Destiny to speculate if I'd been gang raped do you remember that or no what I don't even remember that W that's fake news no you said do you think there was like a gang bang and he was like a gangang and

Aaron (straight8)he said consensual wait I don't think that's synonymous still an inappropriate question I'll not the same thing yeah what wait

Brian Atlasthe definition of gang grape first off can you bang and gang rape or different oh my God I can't believe sorry this is like to or whatever for you not to say

Brian Atlasthat before the sorry and that's not what I said so why are you putting words in my mouth like trying to false accuse me I told you that you asked no that's a false accusation you I did not

Aaron (straight8)say that did I did the words gang rape come out of my mouth no you said so that's a you that's a false accusation you asked you asked do you think there was like a gang bang and then you clarified

Aaron (straight8)consensual and so you said consensually consensually so I thought but that's what I said did not say that specific term no you didn't say the specific term but the spirit of what you were asking and when you add Thisick such a

Aaron (straight8)buzz kill of the spirit of question should we do a round two like okay what what are you getting at the I if I misunderstood what you were asking if you were just asking like if I had sex with multiple people or group sex or whatever fine I didn't know that like

Brian Atlasthat's not my understanding of what the term means but I didn't mean to falsely accuse are we re litigating every single thing that happened on the previous podcast what are you talking about yeah

Brian AtlasI don't want to relive that that then we don't have to but like so what's your question I just the TTS the TTS is

Aaron (straight8)asking uh if you would date me that's the extent of it the answer orate you and I said I I would I said you're attractive but we didn't know each other maybe I'd go on a date with you but I

Mary Morgandon't think we have much in common so no okay okay there you go what the let's just talk about oh my God what should men bring to the table is the

TTS Readerquestion we were on before that um oh sorry we got this one coming cost times donated $17 I'm a bit older than those under 40

TTS Readernothing is better than having a family as you move ahead in life girls and guys be family-minded people don't care about the pics of you on a beach at 22 when 70

TTS Readerexcept the wife/ hubby you took the more kids who

Brian Atlasview word and Truth uh we'll go around the table what what should a guy bring to the table uh safety

Lexi (Escort)security um somebody to be like a leader a mentorship something like that next

Aaron (straight8)person I don't know if there's a one siiz fits-all for all relationships I think that's going just going to have to be determined by each individual couple but I would say reliably you could say that your partner uh should bring like

Aaron (straight8)Integrity honesty open communication I think are good foundations that Partners can bring to a

TTS Readerrelationship I think oh Curtis unor Le UND donated $100 ran is the modern day Socrates I

TTS Readerhave learned so many new phrases so whatever red and blue pill chat and I finally figured out what 304 means dating at are the main problem since it

Brian Atlasmakes men not come out of their comfort zone yo Curtis thank you very much man appreciate it uh modern day Socrates I mean that's quite an endorsement but uh thank you man appreciate it I thought

Mary Morganthat 304 was about the actual area code it is the are CU I was like I'm from West Virginia are you like trying to dunk on me for being from West Virginia I looked it up too I was like I'm 609 like what is

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