Goth Girl SLASHED Her Boyfriends WHAT?! | Dating Talk #78
Date: 2023-05-29
Duration: 5h 55m
Guests
Brian AtlasIdentified Speakers
SPEAKER_01Orion Taraban(guest)
SPEAKER_02Bernadine(guest)
SPEAKER_03Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_05Alicia Tunisia(guest)
SPEAKER_06Cassidy Williams(guest)
SPEAKER_07Abigail(guest)
SPEAKER_08Amber(guest)
SPEAKER_09Farah Khalidi(guest)
SPEAKER_10Tegan Powell(guest)
SPEAKER_11Madison(guest)
SPEAKER_12Shelby Ally(guest)
Key Moments
00:07:04
IntroFarah Khalidi introduces herself: 24, TikTok creator and OnlyFans creator
“my name is Farah khalidi I'm 24. I'm a tech talk Creator and I'm also one only fans”
00:08:29
IntroBernadine introduces herself as 32; Tegan Powell follows immediately after
“my name is Bernadine I am 32. I”
00:18:29
QuoteFarah reveals she is a virgin despite doing OnlyFans
“I'm currently single I've only been in one relationship... we didn't [censored]”
00:52:46
QuoteFarah defends being a virgin OnlyFans creator: asks what intercourse has to do with taking photos of yourself
“I would ask them to Define what they think intercourse is and then ask how they think that relates to taking photos of yourself”
00:58:35
OtherBernadine promotes her femininity/relationship online course and announces it to the panel
“my program I have like my students messaging me every other week now saying I'm engaged or married”
01:43:59
TopicRatings round begins — Brian asks guests to self-rate physical appearance 1-10
“let's go around the table what do you rate yourself in terms of physical appearance on a scale of 1 to 10”
01:44:16
QuoteFarah rates herself 10/10, up from 1/10 on a previous episode
“honestly I give myself like a 10. last time I said one”
01:44:56
QuoteShelby refuses to give a rating number; says everyone is beautiful (Christian worldview)
“I think everyone's beautiful I personally don't do ratings”
03:04:12
ControversyAbigail reveals she slashed ex-boyfriend's mattress with a knife, scattered his clothes and blankets in the desert, and stalked his new address
“I slashed up his bed so that way he won't bring other women... I scattered them around the desert”
03:07:32
QuoteAbigail also found ex's new girlfriend's info, threatened to email her boyfriend, and physically showed up at ex's house
“I found out her boyfriend's email and his social media... I showed up to his house”
04:38:17
OtherBernadine promotes her course with discount code 'whatever'; Instagram: fearless.femininity
“if any of you ladies are interested in enrolling in my course you can enroll with a major discount using the code whatever”
Topics Discussed
00:00:00
Guest Introductions
Guests introduce name, age, occupation. Round of relationship statuses and longest relationships.
00:09:30
Relationship Status & Dating Apps
Each guest's current situation. Covers situationships, long-distance, virgins on OnlyFans, arranged marriage pressure.
00:35:00
Arranged Marriage & Indian Families
Alicia discusses family pressure around marriage by 35; arranged marriage as fallback. Farah open to curated introductions.
00:47:30
Flowers & Gift-Giving on Dates
Whether first-date flowers are turn-on or cringe. Orion's adorer/adored framework. Gift personalization vs. script following.
01:03:20
Dating Multiple People Simultaneously
Brian's discomfort with women dating 5+ men per week. Farah/others argue women's selectiveness. Debate on female vs. male option asymmetry.
01:09:23
Skincare / Pimple Ad Read
Sponsored segment on skincare. Panel discusses whether acne/pimples are distracting on dates.
01:34:56
Zombie Apocalypse Hypothetical
Would guests survive or give up in a zombie apocalypse? Walking Dead vs Last of Us zombie comparison.
01:43:59
Self-Rating & Sexual Marketplace Value
1-10 physical appearance self-ratings. Orion's normalized SMV framework. Debate on objective vs. subjective attractiveness.
02:41:40
Marriage, Divorce, Blood Covenants
Bernadine's Christian perspective on lifelong marriage and blood covenants. Divorce statistics. Brian's skepticism of marriage contracts.
03:04:12
Ex-Revenge & Property Destruction
Abigail reveals she slashed ex's mattress, scattered his clothes in desert, and stalked him. Discussion of tire-slashing and revenge behavior.
03:25:00
Female-Initiated Divorce & Feminism
Why women initiate ~70% of divorces. Bernadine argues feminism since 1960s caused decline. Farah/Orion debate pair-bonding and hypergamy.
04:00:00
College Hook-Up Culture
Discussion of hook-up culture at UCSB/Isla Vista. Whether people actually want relationships vs. casual sex.
04:20:00
Sex Before Marriage & Body Count
Premarital sex debate. Body count and pair-bonding. Tegan on sadness of high body counts. Alicia on double standards.
04:30:00
Final Q&A / Audience SuperChats
Extended audience donation reading, relationship hypotheticals, Brian discusses podcast direction and online drama.
04:40:39
After-Show (Madison hosting)
Madison hosts a brief after-show with remaining guests and chat interaction.
Transcript
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01:54:49
Shelby Allyhold on I thought everyone's equally attractive well no I I did mention that I think there are levels of Attraction but I think that everyone is born beautiful in their own unique way but are there some people that you you don't find physically attractive
01:55:03
Shelby Allyum yes I think in my personal preference there are people that aren't as attractive as others but I just I think rating people just doesn't have any value to it okay no I I understand that
01:55:15
Brian Atlaswould you say that there are there are groups of people that you find attractive that there's degrees to those that you find
01:55:25
Brian Atlasattractive uh do for example you could find two people attractive but you find one more attractive than the other yes um do you mind clarifying A Little More
01:55:36
TTS/Miscwell I mean if there's hold on just a sec thank you Dave Jackson donated 200 notice how I ask her how she's worth it and her answer is because I'm worth it I mean I could give the points I can
01:55:49
Alicia Tunisiadebate all night I did speech and debate so I have the points ready are you the table what do you bring to the table the table you are the table Yeah so okay so in
01:56:00
Alicia Tunisiaterms of in terms of what type of guy am I catering to because it depends like I don't know I feel like this podcast it goes for like the red pill movement right so do you want me to answer again
01:56:10
Brian Atlaslook I mean because I can't answer I don't know if this podcast goes for the red pill movement although I have a right are you sure there's some blue pills on the table well I I don't I
01:56:23
Brian Atlasdon't like in the same way that I don't like the alpha characterization the high value High status man characterization um I believe that people can have differences of opinions and I'd much
01:56:36
Brian Atlasrather just tell you what my thoughts are than just try to attach myself to like a given a given movement movement
01:56:45
Brian Atlasum I mean ultimate and the you know look the red pill red pill space is uh I suppose getting some Flack right now but red pill is a metaphor I mean I don't
01:56:58
Brian Atlasthink there's a strictly one like uh there's not a Bible of the red pill that it's like this if you're red pill this is exactly what you believe in
01:57:08
Brian AtlasI mean there's people that are red pill that I disagree with on things I ultimately at the most basic level I think red pill is waking up to the truth waking up to reality
01:57:20
Brian Atlasum and when it comes to intersectional Dynamics it's waking up to perhaps uncomfortable truths about what men want what women want what women are attracted to so
01:57:34
Brian Atlasanyways that's kind of derailing the conversation he's he's curious um why should a man shorten his bloodline for you besides the two obvious reasons
01:57:45
Alicia Tunisiawell I mean if he wants to he will and I mean like I said previous boyfriends are six foot and above but that doesn't mean that I wouldn't date somebody shorter I don't mind dating somebody shorter but
01:57:57
Alicia Tunisiawhat do you bring to the table is what he's asking okay so educated ambitious let's see do you think men care about that no no but I was gonna say other things too but he's asking what you bring to the
01:58:09
Brian Atlastable and it's it I would say for most men they those that's not at the top of the priority list in terms of what they would find attractive about really loyal I have feminine qualities
01:58:21
Alicia Tunisialow body counts well didn't you just say you you were masculine no I mean I have both qualities in me and I've been working on being more feminine and trying to like be more feminine okay and
01:58:32
Brian AtlasI am feminine in a lot of ways okay so you bring loyalty you bring your you said your answer low body count low body count what's your body count prefer not to answer well you just said you have a low body count yeah I mean I don't sleep around and I've only been
01:58:49
Brian Atlasdisheartening that's fine um so loyalty low body count any anything else
01:59:01
Brian Atlasyou bench press 200 pounds will you stick it out in the zombie apocalypse yes do you know how to play the cello I don't but I know how to play piano that's a deal breaker for Devon Jackson
01:59:14
Brian AtlasI'm sorry if you don't know how to play the cello it's a done deal okay so going back to our thing one to ten um so you were asking me to clarify when it comes to I was asking you
01:59:25
Brian Atlasif you were to find for example three men physically attractive would you be able to for example say he's more attractive than this one and this one's more attractive than the other uh yes I would be able to
01:59:38
Brian Atlasmake or maybe they would all be attractive sure it would depend for example perhaps there's a hundred people in the room say 50 of them are men you could to some degree put them in order of you could maybe say
01:59:49
Brian Atlasthat's the most attractive guy in this room there could probably be guys that were more attractive but maybe some would be kind of equally attractive yeah certainly there could certainly be men of a comparable physical attractive
02:00:01
Brian Atlassimilar and likewise you might see a few men in the room who you find unattractive maybe less attractive who you're not attracted to yeah and you could say to some degree that there's
02:00:12
Brian Atlasdegrees to how not attracted to them you are yeah I do agree with that okay so I mean the one to ten scale system is basically that she's saying it's subjective so like if you go to music an art museum she could say all these
02:00:26
Bernadinepaintings are beautiful but there's certain ones that I'm more drawn to and you can rank all the paintings we can still acknowledge that they're all beautiful thank you I think that's what I'm saying as a Christian to understand that beauty is objective like even in
02:00:36
Bernadinethe Bible it talks about the Bible records saying that Sarah was beautiful yeah you know Rachel is more beautiful than Leia you know Esther that's a good well that's why she's chosen by the king
02:00:47
Bernadinebecause she was so beautiful yeah um so it's okay like it's okay if we're not all tens it's okay if you know if we're honest about that because it does help appreciate you know objective Beauty we can appreciate it without feeling
02:01:00
Farah Khalididevalued by it but it's not objective because you take all the tens in one city and bring them to a room full of Victoria Secret models and every guy would agree that their rating goes down so how is it objective that is a really good point Sorry I think it is subjective though there are objective
02:01:13
Bernadinetraits like women across the bar find taller men you know more handsome if they've got a wider jawline sharper jawline that's more attractive to them you know wider shoulders broader shoulders that's
02:01:26
Bernadineattractive because those are all signs of high tea high testosterone levels so biologically women across the board whatever country you want to go to women are attractive to attracted to
02:01:37
Bernadineum things about men that show that they're good leaders strong providers strong protectors and so it's a biological thing like it's not a shallow you know conceited vein thing and in the
02:01:48
Bernadinesame way men also have you know traits that they seek in a woman because it communicates to them that she is feminine that she can carry a child because men really want to you know procreate and have children and carry on
02:02:00
Bernadinetheir bloodline and so they want women who you know who objectively have wider hips and Fuller breasts and things like that that sign gives a sign of fertility and so it's okay like it's okay to be
02:02:11
Bernadinebiologically wired it's okay to have a history as a human race and to have preferences men and women both have preferences and the subjective part I think that's a great thing because if
02:02:22
Bernadineyou're 411 if a man is five five or just five foot tall that's perfect for you you know because he's still taller than you because he still communicates protected protection and provision to you so that's the subjective part but
02:02:34
Cassidy Williamsthere are biological traits yeah there's a subjective part like if you walked around UCSB because we're in Santa Barbara and went to like the hottest guys at UCSB and then you like they're a 10 to the
02:02:47
Cassidy Williamspeople that live here and then you ask like the most beautiful movie stars or whatever Tick Tock people whoever you want to bring if they're a 10 they wouldn't say that because they're just like average looking people like it just depends who
02:02:59
Alicia Tunisiathe audience is true but isn't it kind of just trying to be kind of politically correct when you're just trying to say that oh like you know everyone's beautiful like you're you're just trying to not answer the question you're trying to leave but the harsh reality is is
02:03:11
Alicia Tunisiathat like attraction matters and obviously men look at it men are very visual creatures and women also they do go based on attractiveness even though obviously they're going to lean more into like personality in the in the full
02:03:23
Cassidy Williamspackage but the reality is is that people are gonna look at how you're attraction is different to everyone like you could think someone is a 10 out of 10 and I look at them and I'm like I would never talk to them a day in my life it's both they can be objective and
02:03:35
Farah Khalidiguys can be attracted to girls they don't think are objectively attractive either that they would rank a five so attraction and attractiveness don't even usually go and I can say like I can look at someone and be like yeah like they're like objectively attractive but they're not my type yeah like or girls can be
02:03:48
Farah Khalidireally turned on by confident guys who they would still objectively in terms of looks right like a two right but that could be the guy who makes them more wet than they've ever been in their entire life that's why I think the rating system is kind of irrelevant to dating Dynamics yeah I totally agree I was just
02:03:59
Shelby Allysaying that I just want to ignore the subjective part of raiding because as I mentioned I just think that we're we were all created beautiful and I don't think there's a point in being
02:04:09
Alicia Tunisiasubjective with readings well I think it's kind of delusional because it's like you have to you have to the rating has to be there right because it's like we see we see
02:04:20
Alicia Tunisiaattraction in people right I mean this is not well yeah so but what I'm saying is like guys are gonna find like certain girls attractive right and then certain girls are gonna
02:04:33
Amberfind something else attractive like that's just how the world works like it's like a it's like a harsh reality to face right yeah but a man could be a solid 10 but live in his mother's basement so I feel like there's also multiple different
02:04:45
Brian Atlasreading skills on a one to ten standard well sure I mean there's all kinds of factors I mean there's status there's personality there's there's money um but I mean we are kind of
02:04:56
Brian Atlasspecifically talking about just physical appearance here um but you said that the one to ten rating skills irrelevant I think it's kind of inaccurate because like I said you take all the tents of one sitting put them in
02:05:10
Farah Khalidia room with other girls so I don't really see what the point of it is and like I was saying I don't think most people actually factor in that rating into their actual attraction to someone like that objective sense of attractiveness because like I said guys could be turned on or like have the best
02:05:22
Farah Khalidisex of their life with a girl who's less attractive than their wife because there's something about that interaction that turns them on and same with girls and even like you just said yeah there's objective cues but two people who look exactly the same could walk into a room but if one's wearing a red shirt and
02:05:35
Farah Khalidione's wearing a blue shoe people will write the one of the red shirt higher right so that's why I think like we think we're looking objectively but really we're factoring in like clothing confidence and someone walks in with like an air of confidence we're gonna rate them higher that's why I think it's
02:05:47
Brian Atlasuseless well I mean certainly the way you dress and present yourself is going to have some impact on how someone deems and how D excuse me how someone
02:05:57
Brian Atlasrates you same with personality same with status same with whatever you mentioned confidence for example um and certainly you it's not I don't think when we're talking about the one
02:06:10
Brian Atlasto ten rating scale we're not saying looks is the only Factor when it comes to attractiveness but when we're speaking about something very specific and we're speaking about physical attractiveness yeah and I'm saying like even physically wearing a shirt on your
02:06:23
Brian Atlasbody can change your rating the way people objectively write you drastically sure and and for example if if someone if someone has a positive Sunny disposition if they're chipper if
02:06:34
Brian Atlasthey're smiling that in itself just purely on the physical level can make them appear more physically attractive but I think for example um
02:06:44
Brian AtlasI guess where where it matters if if we look at someone who's if you lined up 100 people and you said hey they all generally said this
02:06:54
Brian Atlasperson's a 10. looks wise they're a 10. um whether that's a man or a woman that's going to have an impact when it comes to their dating life if
02:07:06
Brian Atlassomeone is a 10 in terms of looks can you agree that they're probably going to fare better than someone who is ranked lower well it depends because I think red pillars will be the first to argue that girls don't really factor in looks it's
02:07:19
Orion Tarabanlike a cardinal factor in status and height more right so I think looks I I mean I think looks are pretty important I agree with that but I made an episode about that what became fairly popular
02:07:32
Orion Tarabanwas called the part that women always leave out and a lot of guys especially when they're younger and they're confused about women they ask women like what are you looking for and they'll say things like oh I want somebody kind and I want somebody
02:07:45
Orion Tarabanwho's generous and I want somebody who's interested in having a family and the guy will listen to these things and kind of Nod and be like okay well I'm a nice guy I'm kind and you know I'm willing to have a family and I could be generous
02:07:56
Orion Tarabanand share the things that I have and and they go out and they really try to highlight those things because they're kind of taking on good faith that that's what the women are going to respond to sexually and they're generally in for a
02:08:09
Orion Tarabanrude awakening because I think the part that women tend to leave out is that they want all those things but they want those things from the men they are attracted to and
02:08:20
Orion TarabanI think that most women have been attracted to men who did not possess all of those characteristics so the attraction always comes first
02:08:31
Orion Tarabanand then among the attractive options women then get to choose what which of those attractive men to her possessed the best possible option
02:08:43
Farah Khalidifor a relationship moving forward I agree that attraction needs to come first like I was just saying like if a guy you're not attracted to flirts with the Army turned off but that doesn't mean that what she finds attractive is based off an objective rating or a guy
02:08:55
Farah Khalidiwho's objectively rated as a 10 like again you could be really attracted to someone because they're funny you're conflating what she finds attractive with an objective rating scale no I I agree with you I just don't think that um it's irrelevant I would say it's
02:09:08
Orion Tarabanit's relative I think that's the word that you were going for because if you could be very attractive in one context and move them to another it doesn't necessarily mean that that attraction level is irrelevant to their decision making or their
02:09:19
Farah Khalidiperception just that it changes based on content context and and other factors so it's not like inherent to the individual yeah I guess my point was you were saying girls are only going to like those trades and guys they're attracted to but we were talking about the rating
02:09:32
Farah Khalidisystem and I was saying I don't think that means they're factoring looks into their attraction was my point I'm saying like again that could be based off like if the guy makes her laugh and she finds him hilarious or she
02:09:43
Bernadineis finds him Rich so she's going to be attracted thing was just on physical appearance yeah yeah that would be like step one and then step two is like what's what he like his personality Etc do we get along so it's just strictly so in that case
02:09:57
Alicia Tunisiathe rating is fine then because physically then that's possible to do that to just like rate somebody like based on what they look like just physically then because obviously you're seeing like
02:10:09
Alicia Tunisiapersonality and you're saying like well-roundedness and everything but I feel like then it's fair to ask everyone uh Madison can you read this really quick all right this guy in the ties
02:10:21
Madisonputting me to sleep with his Ted Talk gotta got us some powerful veritone up in this I don't know what word that is a dude that'll make these females flood their chairs with every syllable I'm
02:10:32
Orion Tarabanthinking corpse husband would be perfect would make an epic show your response I'm never been on a TED talk before I'm
02:10:41
MadisonI'm honored that this is my first all right can we actually um redirect the conversation to a fit check can everyone please uh stand up
02:10:52
Madisonreally quick outfit check oh yeah just stand up really quick I'm gonna put it on Center
02:11:03
Madisonall right maybe a little spin me too I can barely fit in here
02:11:14
Miscyeah I guess it'll spin if you want you don't have to okay
02:11:24
Madisonum Brian always hates them
02:11:28
Miscorange pants that was not a button
02:11:37
Miscstreams
02:11:42
Madisonokay cool cool cool cool
02:11:52
Madisondid you hear that noise
02:11:57
Miscyeah it's an ambulance [Laughter]
02:12:07
Brian Atlasbecause you kind of made like an interesting noise earlier I just get hiccups you get the hiccups okay let me um get a couple of these chats here uh all right we have
02:12:19
Brian AtlasJimmy F thank you man Brian your show is amazing and I've been binging it for a week or two now since it's entertaining and I love the arguments just glad I got to catch part of a live stream I'm a truck driver and I really appreciate
02:12:31
Brian Atlaswhat you said about us on another episode hey man yeah um you know you guys who are uh working on infrastructure if you're a truck driver you guys are
02:12:42
Brian Atlaswhat's holding up this country not people in [ __ ] HR and in marketing Departments of corporations so shout out to uh people in the trades shout out to truckers if it wasn't for people working in
02:12:55
Brian Atlasinfrastructure and Trucking and transport uh this if you all disappeared tomorrow this country would be in chaos within 72 hours um Okay so
02:13:08
Brian Atlasthank you Jimmy appreciate it man and then we got the one from Storm Striker we have a couple super chats here we have one from Sweet Tooth did I read this one I don't
02:13:18
Brian Atlasthink so six three as a six three guy by the way sweet tooth good to see you back man thank you for the your patronage tonight the lady in blue is too short
02:13:27
Brian AtlasFYI I think it's with two o's just saying um for farhub I guess that's your new name and yours is brain
02:13:37
Brian Atlasum you need more overalls overall like I I think he means overalls oh okay okay but nine yeah bad bad joke okay
02:13:49
Brian Atlasum you didn't even know what brain was meaning about the zombies right if you're gonna you gotta make sure if you're gonna say what you're saying you got to make
02:14:00
Brian Atlassure that you spell check these um was meaning about the zombies and often for kids because you couldn't survive weak he's so right I'm so sorry I didn't intuitively understand what poverty zombies meant how dare you not know about poverty zombies
02:14:13
Brian Atlasokay um Sweet Tooth thank you for the uh Super Chat man I appreciate it Caleb maybe he was like misspelling [ __ ] on purpose just for the memes you know sure
02:14:24
Brian Atlasyeah of course of course all right Caleb Martin 100 I'm a six foot Lumberjack of a man what do you guys think of men with beards
02:14:33
Brian Atlasalso ones that ride bikes mainly Harleys uh so ladies what do you think of men with beards don't worry I won't be offended if you don't like them if it's
02:14:44
Abigailwell kept then I accept it if it's what well kept the beard is well kept yeah if it's all over the place then they're great my husband has a beard
02:14:53
AbigailI think if it's like too bushy like like this long I personally don't like it like I think like if it's short I'm out I think that's good but Harley's I don't
02:15:05
Abigaillike parties they're really loud and annoying okay uh beard Farah I think beards are sexy
02:15:18
Shelby Ally[Laughter] rock and roll uh what about you not really into beards proposal rescinded what's up um I prefer
02:15:29
Shelby Allya clean shave but I don't mind it if they want to have one okay what about you mine beards I prefer if they're well cupped for sure okay yeah yeah same I if
02:15:40
Brian Atlasit looks good it looks good if it looks good it looks good Caleb Martin six foot Lumberjack thank you man appreciate it all right we have B Powell
02:15:50
Brian Atlas1321 with a photo of a dog taking a dookie thank you man appreciate it ask the ladies if they know what Memorial Day is hashtag trump2024
02:16:03
Brian Atlasum okay do you know what Memorial Day is guys
02:16:10
Brian Atlasyes huh you do what is Memorial Day pharah why are you asking me at an answer oh you didn't oh okay um
02:16:21
Brian Atlaswhat is Memorial day is it today wait hello it's tomorrow oh tomorrow my bad I'm got my dates mixed up um honoring the soldiers that passed away
02:16:34
Brian Atlasanybody else want to take a wager
02:16:39
Brian Atlasokay um thank you man appreciate it for the uh Super Chat your dog is adorable okay um so I want to open it up to you guys now
02:16:52
Brian Atlasis there anything dating related that any of you would like to get off your chest Do you have a comment concern complaint when it comes to dating are men pissing you off in
02:17:04
Brian Atlassome way uh just anything any topic if you'd like to bring up or if you want you can share
02:17:11
Brian Atlasperhaps why dating sucks if you want um how about pet peeves pet peeves wait wasn't there something before the show that you wanted us to
02:17:23
Abigailtouch on she was like we should talk on the stage be exclusive oh yeah just keep your oh um do you keep your options closed or open when you're in the talking stage
02:17:36
Brian Atlasare you asking us should you or are you asking us on an individual level what do what we each individually do well
02:17:51
Brian Atlaswell okay is that an anarchy necklace by the way uh no no sorry it's a pentagram pentagram okay I sorry the microphone was blocking it okay
02:18:02
Brian Atlasis that like a BDSM necklace no because they you know they have the the things with the callers for BDS I'm obsessed with this subculture I'm I'm trying to
02:18:12
Brian Atlaslearn I'm trying to expand my horizons can I go to a golf club with you by the way are there golf clubs anymore yeah in La there's a lot in L.A there's a lot
02:18:23
Abigailyeah they also have um somewhere um well I've been to one um it's it's
02:18:33
Abigailcalled drag house um drag house drag house Dragon yeah drag like Dracula drag house it's like a vampire Club no pretty much people would
02:18:44
Abigailgo in there and you and they do like BDSM stuff and Good Times good time okay um
02:18:55
Brian Atlasso your question is should you be single or only talking to one person during the talking stage yeah well for me personally
02:19:05
Abigailum like I used to I used to um like if I was talking to somebody and I would I would only talk to them um
02:19:16
Abigailwhat and then I kind of stopped doing that because you know as you know they kept failing and I
02:19:26
Abigailmoved on to a net into a new one like I kind of realized okay like I'm not the only one there talking to so and I didn't like having the feeling of like
02:19:39
Abigailpretty much putting all of my eggs in the basket and then being let down and then the way I see it is like um you know if you keep your options
02:19:49
Abigailopen and you're less like you're if that person decides to not move forward with you then you don't feel as bad it's like okay I that's fine
02:20:03
Abigailum and also you know it makes it more special in a way that even though you had all these options you still chose that person so that makes it a little
02:20:14
Abigailbit more special you know like like yeah you know I've talked to these other guys about something special with you and you know you um decide to move forward with them
02:20:26
Abigailso that's just my personal um opinion about it as long as it's like Mutual Of course I think it's okay to be talking to
02:20:37
Bernadinemultiple guys if it's actually that just talking erroneous you're not no because she should be single for three
02:20:46
Bernadineyears before she even meets me me too okay go ahead because traditionally speaking the woman is the one who's getting pursued by the
02:20:57
Bernadineman right so you have to be actually worth being pursued by multiple men you don't want to be sleeping around with them and call it talking but yeah that's different yeah if you're sleeping around and that's different but right no you
02:21:09
Bernadinecan talk to multiple men but you space it out so you can actually get to know one at a time instead of mixing it all up and you kind of start feeling like sleazy if you're talking to a bunch of them and then you're not you know making
02:21:21
Bernadineyour decision do I keep talking to this person do I stop talking to this guy so it's okay um but yeah actually be intentional with it you don't want to date just a date forever or get into a situationship or
02:21:33
Bernadinehook up you know you want to actually date to marry so if that's your end goal then you'll be more intentional about it and it will have a purpose the whole time you're talking to multiple men you're saying this one I don't see a
02:21:45
Bernadinelong-term relationship with him I don't see one with him I do with this guy so maybe we can keep meeting again so just stay intentional and it's okay to have your options open and just keep it
02:21:56
Brian Atlaswholesome you know what I mean yeah if I'm on a third date with a girl all the other options should be gone it's our third time hanging out gone
02:22:07
Farah Khalidiright so some girl slides on you and says wanna [ __ ] tonight what are you saying oh yeah if some girl does what if some girl says Brian do you want to [ __ ] me tonight but you're on a third date
02:22:18
Brian Atlaswith another girl you're saying no I'm already I'm on the date with a girl like on a date and you slide into my DMs and you're like Brian I'm so overwhelmed by your or like The Dashing or the day
02:22:30
Brian Atlasafter the third day you guys aren't exclusive yet I was about I'm setting up setting you up here Farah um so you slide into my DMs and you're like Brian take my virginity I might have to jump at the chance of
02:22:41
Farah Khalidithat no I'm kidding um would I leave the date is that what you're asking did you do like big labia huh anyway what oh sh but you see my point though my point is like would you
02:22:54
Farah Khalidibe exclusive to her after are you gonna throw this at me should we check are you team Audi what is going on I don't know Brian has
02:23:03
Brian Atlasa fetish for whoa whoa let's not say fetish let's say an interest so answer Mike it's also a compassion thing I'm very compassionate towards women are you saying you have a large
02:23:15
Farah Khalidilabor is that what you're saying imagine the biggest labor in your life that girl slides so you don't not you no shoes I thought you don't I thought you're talking about you huh it could be both it's also you yeah
02:23:25
Brian Atlasso would you say yes to that girl after the third date if a different I'm not I'm not by the way if this is if this is a bait to try to get your only fans I don't pay for only fans just saying oh okay is that what you
02:23:38
Brian Atlaspost on your own fans my labia you're like possibly I'm not I'm not taking the bait I'm sorry I don't pay for only fans what are we saying you'll just be checking weak sites later tonight
02:23:49
Bernadineof course not Brian would you date to Mary or are you just dating the hookup well I don't want to get married so why not are you trying I know if you go on a third date with a girl and you say she
02:24:00
Tegan Powelldoesn't need to be dating anybody else like what is the end goal what why don't you want no we need to answer this one oh I don't want to marry because you're doing a dating show right now yeah
02:24:10
Brian Atlaswho said anything about marriage okay so tell tell us well in the western world when it comes to marriage when it comes to divorce it's just the family court
02:24:20
Brian Atlassystem is stacked against men uh men Fair really bad in divorce so I just I I don't see the benefit of getting married I could
02:24:31
Brian Atlasbe monogamous with someone long term have a life partner some people don't like that term but I could be with one girl I can be with one girl long term maybe
02:24:42
Farah Khalidieven my whole life I don't need the government involved and divorce is just not good what a [ __ ] that's like a lifelong talking stage how's that you don't want to get married because you don't want to get divorced why not just
02:24:54
Brian Atlaslike work towards a really good marriage you don't get divorced but here's the thing pharah how many hold on let me just address her thing women how many well no but how many people get married
02:25:05
Brian Atlasthinking that this is the person I love to death I could never see us breaking up never see us getting divorced
02:25:15
Brian Atlasone year later two years later three years later the divorce comes and so I think I would assume most people that get married aren't going into it thinking I'm
02:25:27
Brian Atlasprobably going to get divorced however the stats I think the stats are like 50 percent of divorces and or excuse me 50 of marriages end in divorce really those odds are too bad that's pretty 50 is
02:25:38
Brian Atlaspretty bad you wouldn't flip a coin for the love of your life no if I was in a uh an airplane and I was skydiving and there's a 50 chance that the parachute
02:25:48
Farah Khalididoesn't work I'm not taking that bet you're in control whether you get divorced like it's not like you press a button and then it decides whether you guys are gonna get
02:25:58
Orion Tarabandivorce it's in your control there's at will no contest divorces so if one party just wants to walk away that's not within your control you can't keep somebody in a marriage that doesn't want to be there sure but
02:26:11
Farah Khalidiif he has a really great marriage I don't think his wife is gonna be doing that usually when I'm divorced because the guy is Unfaithful or he's not working towards communication well look certainly there are scenarios where
02:26:21
Brian Atlasthere's where there's abuse or you know there's IR genuinely irreconcilable differences but I mean can we also agree that sometimes it's
02:26:32
Brian Atlasthe case that maybe a relationship ends because someone else came into the picture or someone got bored yeah someone came to the picture it's usually men who have extramarital
02:26:43
Brian AtlasAffairs like I think it's actually I think this the study the stats show that it's pretty comparable when it comes to cheating and infidelity no 25 of married men I think 10 of married women
02:26:57
Bernadinewould it make you feel better if you knew that some women out there don't rely on the government papers to stay married like their state they're faithful to their husbands not because of the government paperwork but because
02:27:07
Brian Atlasof religion reasons do you mean religion but I mean if you if you get married in the west I don't know exactly how it works but I think
02:27:18
Brian Atlasyou can have a religious ceremony but you would be TR I know has anyone here been married ever I don't know exactly how it works but I have oh well it does okay yeah you are married
02:27:31
Brian Atlasum don't you have to go to the courthouse and get a uh a marriage license or something is that before you get married or after you get married before you get because it needs to get signed
02:27:44
Brian Atlasyou bring that to the pastor or whoever officiates the marriage okay um so I mean I don't have an issue necessarily from the religious
02:27:56
Brian Atlasangle of marriage um but keep in mind secular people get married uh I have an issue primarily for the the
02:28:06
Brian Atlassevere consequences of divorce and chiefly those are Financial consequences um it's just it's not a good bet not the good part of that is because men and women really
02:28:18
Bernadinedon't know how to work together obviously you can see that from feminism you can see that from the red pill manosphere movement from the magtow movement there's like such a huge divide like men and women literally don't know how to relate to each other
02:28:31
Brian Atlasfrom the dating to the marriage yeah well I mean I would say though what I what I would say though is when it comes to for example when it comes to divorce it's honestly would be a better move for
02:28:43
Brian Atlasa lot of guys who end up getting divorced and if they're The Breadwinner it would honestly be a better Financial move to just walk up to a random person and say Here's half my assets enjoy
02:28:59
Abigailthat that's that's a better move I was going to say that um that you know
02:29:07
Abigailum a man has more to lose when they get married you know because like it's been happening a lot lately um who was it like recently like the
02:29:20
Brian Atlasmale celebrities you know what I have a list and you can tell me if any of these names ring a bell so these are all men who have had divorce and divorces initiated against them Brad Pitt Johnny
02:29:31
Brian AtlasDepp Jeff Bezos Bill Gates Elon Musk Dr Dre Ryan Reynolds Tom Brady Lance Armstrong Alex Rodriguez Channing Tatum Chris Rock Ben Affleck Chris Pratt Liam Hemsworth Ben Stiller David Duchovny
02:29:44
Brian AtlasOrlando Bloom Tiger Woods Sean Penn Sylvester Stallone Paul McCartney Ryan Felipe Jason Momoa Michael Jordan uh Stephen Crowder although that's not a great I don't want to get into the street Stephen Crowder thing in any case these
02:29:57
Brian Atlasare all very attractive men High status men wealthy and even they can't keep a chick so me is like I consider myself like kind of a normal dude
02:30:12
BernadineI think bro if Brad Pitt can't keep a chick I'm [ __ ] well I think the biggest problem and the reason for all this divorce and all this divide in this chaos is because of hookup culture like
02:30:24
Bernadinethe sexual revolution in the 1960s it was not like this in the 1950s people got married and they stayed married but when the hookup culture and the sexual Liberation movement introduced by
02:30:34
Bernadinefeminism came in in the 1960s everything just was destroyed like if you look up the statistics
02:30:43
Bernadineyour best bet at not getting divorced is marrying a virgin okay sure only five percent of um virgins get divorced so if you get
02:30:55
Bernadinemarried and you haven't had past sexual partners you don't have all this comparison that you're playing in your mind when you're having sex you're not thinking you have other options you're not thinking you can just have this with
02:31:06
Bernadinesomebody else but the hookup culture and the sexual the sexual Revolution is what screwed up this country and the society before all of this people got married to
02:31:18
Bernadinethe first person they had sex with so if you want to fix the divorce you have to go back to stop sleeping around the person that you have sex with you consent sex to that person stay with that person just be married I don't
02:31:30
Farah Khalidithink feminism is the reason that Tiger Woods cheated on his wife a lot of high status men they can exercise their options more so like you're looking at the outcome instead of the causes for why those women file divorced and in a lot of those instances there was
02:31:41
Bernadineadultery sure feminism is what told women that being loose sexually is what empowers you you are empowered if you're naked you're empowered if you're on a camera being stripping down naked and
02:31:53
Brian Atlasdoing sexual acts for a bunch of perverts but choose that Empower those men to cheat she's saying that these some of the men that I listed they were the ones that were cheating but and you're right yes some of these
02:32:05
Brian Atlasmen were probably Unfaithful um perhaps some of them weren't though and and perhaps it's also the case that there may have very well been going into a relationship look we don't know the
02:32:16
Brian Atlasdetails of these relationships maybe there's some understandings uh in terms of these men having mistresses we don't know we don't know but at the at the end of the day these are
02:32:29
Brian Atlasexceptionally attractive men who are wealthy and high status who were divorced by their Partners so I mean I don't know I don't I don't it's a very beautiful exceptional women
02:32:42
Brian Atlassure and look I don't know if we should a lot of these men are in Hollywood and athletes I don't know if we should be looking to Hollywood and athletes as Hollywood romantic sexual degeneracy so
02:32:53
Brian Atlasthey they're definitely not but I I guess let me ask the question and why I am averse to marriage um my experience has been when it comes to relationships and I've I've heard
02:33:05
Brian Atlasthis from other men is that in my relationship experience women tend to overwhelmingly initiate breakups
02:33:14
Brian Atlasthat's true and women overwhelmingly initiate divorce so like a lot of men are looking at what's going on and we hear the stories from other men of
02:33:26
Brian AtlasI got took to the cleaners 20 years of alimony I'm gonna be paying this woman who is probably capable of working I'm going to be paying her for 20 years and if you've been married long
02:33:38
Brian Atlasenough you're going to be you could potentially be on the hook to pay for her lifestyle the rest of her life when she may very well be capable of working and when even when she I don't know what the rules are if they remarry but um I
02:33:51
Brian Atlasmean let me I can ask the table a question of all the time and this is a question for the whole table I'm about to open it up to of all the relationships that you've been in
02:34:02
Brian Atlaslet's not even say relationships of all the times that you've had to say I don't want to S where okay sorry I'm losing my train of thought of all the
02:34:14
Brian Atlastimes when you've been seeing somebody where hold on guys um sorry I'm getting distracted here of all the times where you've been seeing
02:34:23
Brian Atlassomebody and someone in the party says I no longer want to see you whether that's the guy or the girl
02:34:32
Brian Atlasmore often than not is it you as the woman who's saying you want things to end or is it the guy saying that for you the guy okay fair enough what
02:34:44
Brian Atlasabout for you farha me okay what about for you I would say the guy more often the guy saying pumping the brakes and saying I don't want to see you anymore and just a point of clarification that could be you've been on three dates with the
02:34:58
Brian Atlasperson you've been in a two-year relationship with a person more often than not is it you saying I don't want to see you anymore or is it him go ahead it's me it's you
02:35:10
Cassidy Williamswhat about you they're saying verbally saying that than me well saying like just like ghosting then it's the guy there's more than one way to ask for something but go ahead
02:35:21
Tegan PowellI don't know I haven't done it in so long okay I don't know I just I don't know if I have the answer to that because the way that I think of like relationships and how they should be
02:35:30
Tegan Powellworking is that you need to discuss with the opposite person is like what they have been through and what their expectations are for a man because the biggest issue in today's society is that
02:35:43
Tegan Powellour parents have one of the highest divorce rates and it's plummeting and it's affecting all of us so when you don't have a stable marriage like your parents aren't stably married you have no one to look
02:35:55
Tegan Powellup to to like how does your father treat your mother you have no one to look up to so when women go out and they meet men they don't know what to look for and vice versa with men seeking women they don't
02:36:08
Tegan Powellknow what to look for and that's what is enabling all this confusion is that all these people don't understand what a true relationship is because they don't have that example but but okay so you you've had a couple
02:36:20
Tegan Powellrelationships correct sure yeah one official relationship did you end it or did the guy end it um the guy ended my relationship but
02:36:32
Tegan Powellusually my relationship's the one that I've been in it's like back and forth it just gets really toxic until it has to end if that makes sense red flag but uh but
02:36:43
Tegan Powelllike that's but it's the here's what I'm saying though it's because I had nothing to look after and like what I need to see and what I need to have in like a man because I didn't have that thing to look
02:36:55
Tegan Powellup to so when you don't have a strong family figure you don't have a strong parent figure it's like a man and a woman your mom and your dad having a relationship it's difficult for a woman
02:37:05
Tegan Powellto go out there and understand what a guy is here to offer and what they truly are like willing to give you so you have a girl who's vulnerable because she
02:37:15
Tegan Powelldoesn't know what she's looking for and then you have a guy who may be persuading you to be a certain way or you know giving you a certain thing and you don't quite understand like one
02:37:26
Tegan Powellexample I can give for like the disconnect is my boyfriend when Christmas time came around I didn't understand what gifts to give because that wasn't something that was like within my family so when I would give a
02:37:37
Tegan Powellcertain gifts he would be like kind of confused you know but I don't know how to give gifts there's like there's no verbal communication as to what women's expectations are and what men's or expectations are for women is that and
02:37:50
Brian Atlasyou're saying because of your family experience yes you said you're when did you said your parents got divorced yes in Middle School in Middle School yes okay was it a contentious divorce it was
02:38:01
Tegan Powellmessy it was a messy it was messy okay but what I'm saying is that women and men don't really have like some divorce rate is so high there's nothing to look after and it's just
02:38:14
Tegan Powellplummeting and all of these men and women are just knocking butting heads because no one knows what to look for because no one's communicating what did you go through what did you experience
02:38:24
Tegan Powellwith your parents and how can we establish a firm relationship and that's why things are failing and then you are no sorry and then what you're saying is
02:38:35
Tegan Powellthat you feel as though you can't be in a relationship or in a marriage because of these people you're limiting yourself like what you're saying is you're limiting what you can do and what you can be in a relationship because of what
02:38:47
Brian Atlasyou've heard from other people I mean if you really want to propose to me you can no but um I do not oh reject it okay um
02:38:58
Farah Khalidiright uh I mean mic drop it's true though like if girls don't have like a positive male role model in their life they're more likely to fall
02:39:10
Farah Khalidifor like Psychopathic guys for instance because they're going to fill that void and like uh show a fake veneer of like confidence and maturity and if you don't have a positive father figure in your life because of divorce or like Father absence you're not going to see the
02:39:22
Cassidy Williamsdifference between like good masculinity and toxic masculinity right sure well there's different like attachment Styles like I did Communications in college and like based on what your parents are who whatever like figures you looked up to when you were growing up sorry whatever
02:39:35
Cassidy Williamsfigures you looked up to when you were growing up like you're gonna have a certain type of attachment style like there's like the quote unquote normal one if you had like perfect parents that you're supposed to have like just ideally and there's like avoidance
02:39:47
Cassidy Williamsthere's you know there's a bunch of them and if you're not like actively aware of that then your like your relationships are gonna fail because you're going to be with someone that probably has a different one than you and they're gonna not align
02:39:59
Brian Atlasand you're gonna have issues and not really know why um word okay but so just just I know you want to come in let me just adjust a couple couple things and I'll have you come in um so I mean you were kind of
02:40:12
Brian Atlaspushing back about my take on marriage and uh because I'm against marriage right okay um I mean yes I suppose what was the last thing
02:40:23
Brian Atlasyou said that I'm I'm I'm looking to these other examples but that's not fair because I'm not giving it a chance you're just limiting it like when you have those thoughts in your head and you think about the way that other people have been affected and you put that in
02:40:36
Tegan Powellyour head it's it's destined to become your reality because that's what you're thinking well I I don't necessarily think that it's destined to be my reality if you're putting it out there absolutely it will
02:40:49
Bernadinebecause you're saying you won't get married sure all the more reason to not get married then but um I think if you are fear-based you're going to not be successful in your Pursuits well it's not about because you're listing out the celebrities and
02:41:02
Bernadineyou're afraid that something like that it has nothing to do with fear it has nothing to do with fear it is fear but that's okay because like all of us deal with this it's married
02:41:11
Brian Atlaswell I'll tell you why because I mean if if I choose to not sign a contract which I deem to be if that contract puts me at a
02:41:24
Brian Atlasdisadvantage uh or it's an unfair contract or there's the contract is ludicrous then
02:41:35
Bernadineit's not a fear it's just me being it's me Chris like signing the paper well that hold on it's just me being pragmatic you don't have to I don't believe that you have to do it through
02:41:46
Bernadinethe government or the state right well you can make your own yeah you can make your own contract between you and your fiance and sign it together like marriage isn't dependent it doesn't require
02:41:58
Brian Atlasthere's a few things so some states there's something called common law marriage luckily I believe my understanding is California is not a common law marriage state but if you cohabitate with someone and you treat
02:42:10
Brian Atlasthem as if you're married basically if you cohabitate for a certain period of time the government the state will view you as if you were married so if in the
02:42:23
Brian Atlasevent of a breakup your girlfriend even though you weren't technically married can say we were married and then she's going to come after you for alimony and say something controversial but I'm gonna put on the
02:42:35
Bernadinetable so people can think about it but listen biblically speaking okay and even not even just biblically like Society speaking Humanity speaking most of societies
02:42:46
Bernadineand even in ancient times marriage was created through consensual sex now hear me out
02:42:58
Brian Atlasokay but hold on where are you going with this because cons like sex does not create marriage in today's day and age we can talk about Greek Greece and Romans and [ __ ] but
02:43:09
Bernadineimagine if it did Imagine okay we're talking about the ideal here listen if people understood that if they had sex with somebody that made them a husband or wife then they wouldn't be sleeping around then you wouldn't have to be worried about you know not just you but
02:43:23
Bernadinemen in general don't have to be worried about women's body counts and their lack of ability to pair bond we wouldn't have to be worried about divorce rates going up every time the body count goes up and
02:43:33
Bernadinehigher people would understand that if if a man had sex with a woman that woman is now his wife and he's responsible to protect lead and provide for her and if
02:43:45
Bernadinethey had a child because they had sex he can't just run away or tell her to have an abortion because he is now the husband he's responsible for that unborn child and he can't just leave the woman after her she just gave him
02:43:57
Bernadineher body and her womb and so he's responsible for her and we were talking about the ideal we're obviously like 60 years past this sexual Revolution here so we're very screwed up but even in the 50s people understood this that's why there was a thing called shotgun
02:44:10
Bernadineweddings where the father if he found out that you had sex with his daughter you had to go marry her now we're 60 years past the sexual sexual Revolution but if we understood that if a wife if a
02:44:20
Bernadinewoman pardon me if a woman had sex with a man and gave him her virginity that meant that she was now his wife there's no sleeping with some other man you understand there's no some other
02:44:33
Bernadinebaby daddy and I'm going back to my first man that I slept with and saying you're my you got to take care of me and this baby daddy this is the ideal and this is what is prescribed in the Bible and this is what humans have been doing
02:44:45
Bernadineforever and it was normal even in the 1950s it wasn't until the 1960s with the sexual Revolution that it got screwed up with hookup culture with abortion being legalized in all 50 states everything
02:44:55
Brian Atlashas been destroyed well I mean the cat is out of the bag yes it is we can be idealists and so you just have to think
02:45:05
Brian Atlasabout it but if you are but that's why I need to be pragmatic as a man because that I'm not meeting virgins most women
02:45:15
Bernadinewho are available are not virgins right I'm not a virgin myself yeah that's why Christ is so important in all of this because with Christ you are forgiven I'm not talking about a born-again virgin you can't change the biological reality
02:45:27
Bernadinethat you're not a virgin but if you are forgiven in Christ that's why a lot of Christians even though they've they have a history they have a sexual past they understand that they are covered in the blood of Christ and they are forgiven and they can start new they are
02:45:39
Bernadinecommitted to the man that they marry and that's why they're dedicated to that marriage and they don't have a divorce more conservative extremely the studies show extremely conservative couples have a better sex life they have a better
02:45:52
Brian Atlasmarriage they are happier in their relationship well I mean I think that's a big L for Christian men to just accept a woman who slept well the Christian men also have history sometimes they also
02:46:03
Brian Atlashave been sleeping around sure this idea that you can be born again virgin no I don't believe in Born Again I actually I do believe in believe in it because I think God you were born again unfortunately I did
02:46:19
Shelby Allymake yes
02:46:22
Brian AtlasBaker's Dozen we're talking about Baker's Dozen two two yes just just two yeah you're 21. uh-huh well that's pretty good but just two mistakes yeah
02:46:34
Shelby Allysome people got 30 mistakes in like a freshman totally semester I'm a senior in college so yeah you see it but but I do believe that God
02:46:46
Shelby Allydoes forgive us I believe that too for everything so even if we do make mistakes with uh wait sex or whatever it is all our sins are forgiven I mean but you have to be repentant too like you can't be like I'm not saying you're not
02:46:59
Bernadinerepentant but there are some people who say oh I'm a born-again virgin you know but they still brag about their past sex life that they don't make a big deal out of it so you're you're a born-again virgin yes so you're waiting until
02:47:10
Brian Atlasmarriage to have sex you said you're in a complicated situation with a guy for five months yes was he one of your mistakes uh no okay is he also a Pious Godly Man uh I don't know if I should
02:47:22
Brian Atlassay any information that's fine that's fine yeah okay we just know five million subscribers in Australia and well said what you said right I mean as far as being biologically a
02:47:34
Brian Atlasvirgin a body count of two is pretty low but I mean I just kind of laugh at this whole like okay you've slept with 50 dudes and then I found Christ and now
02:47:43
Shelby AllyI'm I deserve um I feel like a godly man I feel like we're I think we're all undeserving but I think God forgives us no matter what and yeah we don't deserve it but he does
02:47:55
Bernadineit anyways sure I mean he couldn't um like say I'm forgiven now I demand a virgin after having slept with like 50 people like you don't deserve anything it depends on the other person if they're okay with that you know what I
02:48:07
Brian Atlasmean but it's just kind of like you've I don't know it just kind of rubs me the wrong way it's like oh okay well you've you've given yourself to that
02:48:17
Brian Atlasmany men you've slept with that many men and then you're kind of making a sucker
02:48:25
Brian Atlasof the guy who you're now going to make wait I think because because you gave it up to all these men and then now now
02:48:36
Brian Atlasoh [ __ ] yo flan life think of the 50 Gifted Man appreciate it you want another fit Checker I mean we already did it you know just saying thank you man really oh wait that that triggers
02:48:46
Brian Atlasfireworks just saying but oh [ __ ] stuff boom okay fireworks um I don't know something about like it just rubs me the wrong way can you say
02:48:58
Tegan Powellsomething go ahead Tegan the the sad reality of uh women who do have high body counts I've talked to friends who
02:49:07
Tegan Powellhave the experience of you know hooking up and having sex with a lot of men and I've talked to them about it because I know that at the end of the day it is deeper than just running around there's
02:49:19
Tegan Powellsomething that's deeper than that and I've talked to friends about it and some of them have said that they don't have a stable home life and um the thing the reason that they do the
02:49:30
Tegan Powellthings that they do is that they're insecure and thank you when it comes to uh I just lost my train of thought oh the reason that they they sleep with
02:49:41
Tegan Powellmultiple men is because this is what I was told that they can't they don't have any liking for themselves and they want to feel pretty from a man for 15 minutes
02:49:52
Tegan Powellsure they want validation right and it's like how can we how can women motivate other women to steer away from that direction and respect themselves and how can men
02:50:03
Tegan Powellhelp other men to understand that we can't be entertaining that and like from your perspective if you are talking to a girl and you realize that she is maybe mentally
02:50:15
Tegan Powellunstable like there's no reason that you should be having sex with her you know what I mean it's like I think it's the other side of things as well well if a girl is mentally unstable get
02:50:26
Tegan Powellaway from me but um wait what's the question I'm confused I'm saying that men need to hold men accountable and women need to hold women accountable and a sense of when men are talking to women
02:50:36
Tegan Powelland a man wants to pursue a woman he has to at least make sure that she's not the type of person who this is going to be affecting her long term like we need to have respect for each other in that
02:50:46
Tegan Powellsense like sexually or relationship sexually like if there's a woman who's hooking up with multiple men like if you are that guy you have to at least look into that you know what I mean I don't think men
02:50:59
Alicia Tunisiacare right because just of course just like you were saying like the average man is not even able to get laid right so they'll just like go for any girl basically and also for guys like body
02:51:11
Alicia Tunisiacount is very different so they can get away with like [ __ ] like hundreds and thousands of girls but like it's very different for a Girl Like It Matters to a guy a lot even if he says it doesn't that she has a low body count right well
02:51:23
Brian AtlasI think men do have some responsibility in that they they ought to be leaders in this I mean there's definitely a component of the cats out of the bag like it is the current scenario is what
02:51:33
Brian Atlasit is um I personally don't think that men should ought to be promiscuous either um but I mean men have to realize that at
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Tegan Powellthe end of the day they're in control wait but I want to hear it for the butt I mean in a sense of like men like like when you talk about how women have sex with men when women have sex with men a