Brian REJECTS Her LIVE?! 200+ Body Count?! Valentine's Day SCAM?! | Dating Talk #135

Date: 2024-02-14

Duration: 6h 37m

Guests

Brian Atlas

LLily Phillips >

AAndrea (DT135)>

HHazel (DT135)>

JJade (DT135-LV)>

NNatalie Winters >

AAtlantis (DT135)>

BBecca (Team Vulnerable)>

EEmanuel (Team Vulnerable)>

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00TTS Reader(audience)

SPEAKER_01Emanuel(guest)

SPEAKER_02Jade(guest)

SPEAKER_03Atlantis(guest)

SPEAKER_04Becca(guest)

SPEAKER_05TTS Reader(audience)

SPEAKER_06Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_08Hazel(guest)

SPEAKER_10Natalie Winters(guest)

SPEAKER_11Andrea(guest)

SPEAKER_12Lily Phillips(guest)

Key Moments

IntroLily Phillips self-introduction as "online slag / porn star"

“hello my name is Lillian Phillips I'm 22 I'm from Darbyshire England and I am an online slag otherwise known as porn star or only fans ho whatever you want to call it”

ControversyBrian explicitly rejects Lily live on show: would not date her due to porn career and body count

“even if I was inclined to do that I wouldn't even want to have casual sex with a woman who's promiscuous or who's done porn or who has a high body count cuz those things are pretty much deal breakers for me”

OtherLily reveals she had a labiaplasty ~2 years prior for cosmetic reasons; went clubbing the night of surgery

“I actually went out like clubbing the night I got it done cuz they got me on... I did have sex like a week after I had it done and the stitches came out”

QuoteBrian states he has not performed oral sex on a woman since the "Bush Administration" (~2007-2008)

“I haven't gone down on a girl since the Bush Administration”

ControversyLily discloses 200+ body count and provides breakdown: ~150-200+ civilian, ~50 scenes

“definitely triple digits I couldn't tell you what it is... probably not more than 200... in the hundreds... about 50 [scenes]”

ControversyLily describes hot tub incident on family ski holiday involving approximately 10 men

“there was a hot tub and there was also a sauna... having sex with a couple of them... two [intercourse]... four or five [other acts]”

Key MomentBecca reveals husband had erectile dysfunction on their wedding night due to porn addiction

“your husband literally can't get it up for you... he's struggling with this so much that he's having Ed and can't get it up for me”

ControversyJade reveals ex-partner was secretly addicted to gay porn; discovered via Wi-Fi router history; he used her credit card for OnlyFans; had filed a marriage license but never married

“I went through the Wi-Fi router... he was actually severely addicted to porn even got to the point where he was using my own credit cards to buy only fans”

Key MomentBecca gives testimony: lost God in college, believed she was only good for sex, found redemption; encouraged Lily that she is not "too far gone"

“I had you know I grew up Christian completely turned away from God when I was in college and I started believing certain things about myself that I was an object... you rated yourself a six and that's ridiculous you are so so beautiful”

QuoteBrian explains "dating creep" concept: once a woman dates a high-value man it's hard to go back

“once you start dating a certain caliber of man you start like having dating creep... it's like hard to like date the normal average guy once you've had a taste of like a certain tier of man”

QuoteNatalie Winters states OnlyFans and porn are part of a broader agenda to destroy Western civilization

“there are corporations that want you to be sitting there and saying that because they want you to buy into this narrative because they are intent on the destruction of Western civilization”

Topics Discussed

Introductions and relationship statuses

Guests introduce themselves; discuss current relationship statuses, situationships, and OnlyFans business model.

OnlyFans debate: empowerment vs. societal harm

Extended debate between OnlyFans creators and Natalie Winters/Manny/Becca on whether OnlyFans normalizes objectification, harms relationships, contributes to declining birth rates and Western civilization.

Porn addiction and Team Vulnerable nonprofit

Manny and Becca discuss Team Vulnerable; Manny's 15-year porn addiction, ED on wedding night, recovery. Programs for couples, singles, and parents.

Valentine's Day commercialization

Discussion of Valentine's Day spending (men ~$190 vs women ~$96 average), gift preferences, whether it is a scam.

Foodie calls and women using men for free meals

Study cited: ~33% of women have gone on dates purely for free food. New York Post story of woman who got groceries free for 2 years via dates.

Marriage pros/cons and prenuptial agreements

Brian explains why marriage is a bad deal for high-earning men: community property, alimony, legal costs. Debate on religious vs civil marriage.

Violence/BDSM in porn and 50 Shades of Grey

Discussion of aggression in mainstream porn (88% statistic), choking trend post-50 Shades of Grey, impact on real-world relationship expectations.

Dating apps and modern dating challenges

Women claim men who use dating apps aren't real men. Roleplay experiment: women pretend to be men hitting on Madison. Discussion of Tinder match disparity.

Tinder bizarre date story (Andrea)

Andrea shares story of a wealthy bisexual man from Tinder who wanted to pay for plastic surgeries and customize women like "Barbie dolls"; had paid for transgender partner's surgery.

Brian's Hearthstone/World of Warcraft tangent

Brian goes on extended tangent about quitting World of Warcraft in April 2020, his Hearthstone rank (rank 33 world, Warlock 1623 wins), why video games are addictive.

Body count discussion and hypocrisy debate

Lily reveals 200+ body count. Round-table body counts disclosed. Debate on whether men with high body counts are hypocrites for wanting low-body-count partners.

Lily's personal life stories

Lily shares: university sex life, hot tub incident (~10 men, family ski holiday), sex party, 4 encounters in one day, thoughts on body count mattering.

Jade's ex-partner porn addiction discovery

Jade reveals 2-year quasi-engagement ended when she found ex watching gay porn via Wi-Fi router history; he had been using her credit card for OnlyFans.

Self-ratings (1-10 looks)

Guests rate their own physical attractiveness. Hazel claims 10. Brian rates himself a 5. Debate on realistic self-assessment and hypergamy.

Hypergamy and dating marketplace dynamics

Brian's extended analysis: average women chasing above-average men; lifestyle creep in dating; men get front-end rejection, women get back-end rejection.

Transcript

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Brian AtlasGreen dragons right more World bosses right were on that get this I had a couple uh you know what's your favorite loot system in World of Warcraft I don't know you don't know

Brian Atlasokay let me go around the table on this ladies what's the best loot system in World of Warcraft so you have you got loot Council you have Suicide Kings you

Brian Atlashave uh G uh gdkp you have dkp you have uh soft Reserve you have um epgp and then you there's uh feel like

Brian Atlasthere's one I'm forgetting which one's your favorite doesn't matter anyways the ebgp cool so we my guild hardcore rating Guild most of them have a loot Council

Brian Atlasnow loot councils guys can be corrupted right and loot is very important because I'm a DPS pumper I want a parse I'm getting those 99% parses right epic legendary parses sometimes

Brian AtlasI'm getting the pink parses you know what I'm talking about that's what's up but bro I'm getting passed over on Loot and there's some terrible loot decisions bro so finally the I'm the loot Council

Brian Atlasthe loot council is corrupt there's corruption with the loot counil and I got screwed over too many times and I'm a yo I'm a I'm an

Brian Atlasasset to the guild how you going to me over with loot maybe I'm a loot Goblin I'm a loot Goblin hold on I got something cuz they were jealous of

Brian Atlasyou grats me boys Boom ninja L I got passed over too many times on lot it was not being distributed properly so you

Brian Atlasknow what I just I G quit i g quit the guild I had 460s and I said I'm out and I just uninstalled the game I uninstalled the game I was tilted because of some loot

Brian Atlasdecision I was like this and they're all probably like friends in real life and stuff so like you don't really know then like you not real life you know online World of

AndreaWarcraft it's it's a great game but like there's L it's can be a very toxic Community online gaming yes especially when like them kids be I remember like going to my friend's house and they

Brian Atlaswould like talk on Xbox and be like come over let's fight like this is why sometimes and anding notate but sometimes I'll be like too Stern with

Brian AtlasNick and bro and and Nick a trooper right but like this is like how the leadership like this is I'm used to gaming the gaming world so like I'm used

Brian Atlasto like being dude I'm so used to just like talking to people in certain ways like I bro I was I was not in the the leadership and the guild leadership

Brian Atlasagain we're the number one Guild we're one of the top guilds speed running like speed running okay speed running speed running right molten core in like

Brian Atlaswhat 30 minutes bro Dam gangster top 10 na hord right so bro why I get to a point you're just done but dude if you're in like a

Brian Atlashardcore rating Guild that shit's toxic and it you know it kind of rubbed off on me so sometimes I'm toxic to Nick I love you Nick Nick you're the homie I wish you were this this is a guild I

Brian Atlasam running a this is my this is this is my guild Nick is he's uh he's one of the The Guild members right Nick Nick do you play as well he has a tab bird I make him wear a tab bird every show okay

Emanuelanyways all right okay all right I'm sorry guys well I brought that up because you said you don't drink as well you said if you didn't play you'd be a billionaire and I was wondering you were saying stressful running the show

Emanuelobviously building this Empire but that whole idea of you know trading one addiction for another that happens a lot because people are going to a video game porn weed alcohol whatever it may be for

Emanuela pain reliever I was um weed I was drinking I was if you pull up team vulnerable. you see my before and after photo I look like Brendon Fraser getting ready for the whale you can pull and um

Andreawant to see uh funny enough I'm the one you're not nude on there are you who's that uh okay just making sure he like an act you never seen the whale it's like a really but the whole idea of really you know we were talking about it of like

Emanuelyou know well they're going to do it anyways well they're going to and it's people are running to a pain reliever for some reason so there there's something going on deeper inside so I was just wondering when you said you quit it was a bit of a rage quit but uh the no drinking that's good as well cuz

Brian Atlaspeople change or trade one addiction for another many times and so glad you didn't do that yeah no well I've never been uh much of a drinker to begin with

Brian Atlasuh don't do drugs don't smoke so uh my vice was video games that was my that was my vice uh so uh what are you drinking I you I see you drinking some

Brian Atlasdrink this secret juice yeah you don't drink coffee Nei have you seen that hone she it's not it's not it's uh just I uh sometimes my voice gets horse so I have

Brian Atlaslike a there's like lemon and some honey in there that mix of like K MJ nice it's so great um okay let's get back to we

Brian Atlasdid the I we did the I do I have I do do the guys have I yeah guys can have plastic surgery is a is a big ick for meia yeah any

Brian Atlaslook I I was being a bit hyperbolic uh in Ines are great Audi are great I don't discriminate all is great all

Brian Atlaslabia matter allia matter um what else uh it's I'm trying to think uh corome women I don't like corome women corlson

Brian Atlaswhat's that corome Coral Proverbs 2119 better to live in the desert than with a quarrelsome and nagging wife someone who nags

Hazeluh someone who argues my God take out the trash pretty much why I do this Brian do that why'd you play video games for 6

Brian Atlashours instead of throwing out the trash Brian pretty much um trying to think if there's anything else I like really uh I don't like ego I don't like people with B whether they're men or women I don't

TTS Readerlike egotistical people so I like more like down to earth donated $100 thank you I am brion's flannel I am wadded up in the back of the Subaru he disowns he

TTS Readertraded me in for a hoodie brixon is a closeted lesbian please help me I am

Brian Atlassad you there you go Brian I'm a closeted lesbian who's brixen I'm a I mean Brion is it true well I date women

Brian Atlasso kind if you're a man aren't you a lesbian no that just make any sense M no make sense I mean if I iose like if I identified as a woman I would be a

Andrealesbian this okay there what's with the flannel what yeah why is he saying he's Brian's wear not Brian's sweatshirt yeah be Brian's swe he wants me to bring the FL where's your like bright cled

Brian Atlasclothing 500 he'll bring this I knew you were coming tonight and I knew you just couldn't resist the the flannel so I had to tone it down tone it down was that the bronnie the paper towel guy no it's

Brian Atlaswinter time it's winter time so I'm wearing the you and so you had to put it in the water keep it warm uh last last things with Andrew here from our notes um and I think you guys doubled on this

Brian Atlasyou said how guys always downgrade and cheat on us with ugly ass females why do men always cheat on their girlfriends with ugly ass females that's what you

Andreayes and they downgrade like and I feel like men they always downgrade you know like as like when they're cheating and stuff it's really weird and I think it's just because their self-esteem you know

Andreaso like personally speaking I got cheated on with like two girls that were like Brandon Fraser the whale I'm talking like they should be on my 600 lb life and and then it was weird because

Andreait's like how you going to call me fat and then you go with these huge women and stuff like it's crazy and then my other ex too he would call me fat and then he cheated on me with the pregnant

Andreagirl not saying anything to you you know but it's like when I mean you literally when you're big like you whole I'm not saying like you're fat but like and then yeah he cheated on me with the pregnant girl he wasn't the daddy and I went

Andreathrough his uh phone and he had sex with her without a condom on and then I called her and I was like you do know he's still me too right and you're pregnant with a baby and you don't know if I'm other people and what if I gave him something and

Andreathen he gave it to your baby and yeah I was like girl you a hoe like I can't believe you just like if you have sex with that when you're pregnant and it's not your baby daddy without a condom you are a

Andreahoe and I hope I hope she's watching it I hope my ex is watching it cuz like I'mma light his ass up every time so yeah I mean that's about it I've just noticed like you know the yeah the the

Brian Atlasmen cheat cheat down they cheat down well I wouldn't say date down but cheat down they they always cheat down okay well question for the panel here uh would you prefer your boyfriend cheat on you with a girl who is hotter or uglier than you

Andreayou might you might acknowledge that they always cheat cheat with women who I would have them cheat on me uglier cuz it make me feel better if she was a badass I'd be like damn I need to look like her but you're kind of happy then that they cheat on you with

Lily Phillipssomebody who's i' still I'd still be S you're still upset but I'm like I I feel like you know going around the table starting with you what honestly someone ugly and then you can kind of justify

Brian Atlasclown you can clown on him there you go what about you someone hotter hotter okay okay interesting hard to find but harder what about

Beccayou probably uglier uglier okay all right uglier uglier okay uglier neither but uglier if you had to

Brian Atlasokay all right all right I think it's the case though you know it's like you know it may it kind of makes sense you know why they cheat with

Andreauglier women you know Yep they're available y they're available they're ready and you you shouldn't cheat you shouldn't cheat EAS but it makes sense yeah just look at like they ain't get no

Brian Atlasattention that much all right we got we're moving on to Hazel here Hazel you said an ex-boyfriend of yours got obsessed with you followed you everywhere broke your windows slash your tires because I wouldn't get back with him and he would call you crying every

Hazelday why don't you tell us a bit about that yeah um that was pretty immature of him but I was with them for about 6 months

Hazelum it was kind of during a break from my previous relationship so it wasn't that serious but I ended up getting back with my ex and he was very upset about it um so yeah he pretty much slashed my tires

Brian Atlasbroke my windows he wouldn't leave me alone for a long time speak of slashing tires and breaking Windows has any girl here ever slashed a ex's tires somebody's tires

Lily Phillipsever gotone about it I don't want to go to jail anybody ever sped some you've spilled some sped someone with swirled it's like when you like throw a drink in

Lily Phillipsthrow a drink that's fun like in Glee with the slushies yeah I've never watched GL but

Jadedrink hip hop Good Times okay any Jade you slashed the tire I didn't I did something a lot worse than slashing tire so he bought me a BMW and then he

Jadecheated on me with one of my best friends and I total the BMW on purpose and he's actually still paying for the card okay cuz it was in his name it was

Jadein his name yeah so he would have taken it then yeah him good job good job wait he was cheating on you with one of my like closest best friends ever and so you wrecked his car that he bought you

Jademe yeah but it was in his name so was there insurance on the car there was Gap however it was an older BMW so it it actually no he did not get Gap so he they sold the car at auction for like

Jade2 [Laughter] Grand good job proud of you yeah that's some that's some I don't know about that they no it's honestly like it's one of

Jadelike the worst things like I I I regret it a lot really she regrets it I regret it would I do it again no but in the moment I think I was just so heated and on top of that I was like only 20 so I was super immature how' you total it I I

Jadedon't know if I want to say it in front of everybody cuz like insurance is going to come after me like that yeah no I'm not going to you can tell us after I literally like what if I was just hit mhm maybe I was hit she was just hit she

Brian Atlasgot an accident Geico leave me alone please uh what's it when was it your 23 statute of limitations stop stop okay all right

Brian Atlasuh well maybe we can get into that a bit more later we have Lily here Lily you describe yourself as a liberal feminist oh I was just answering the questions I didn't really know what liberal meant

Brian Atlasbut I was like I guess but I haven't voted you have a what I haven't voted oh you haven't voted no I haven't voted wait are you able to do like other British accents

Brian Atlaslike can you do uh re out love you're looking Lov question can you do do you know can you do received pronunciation what does that mean you don't know isn't that's what it's called right received pronunciation I just

Brian Atlasdon't understand what it mean wait wait wait chat that's that's like how the Royals talk right RP Reed isn't that what it's called wait chat one in the chat it's called

Brian Atlasreceived pronunciation right y chat it's a it's RP right received pronunciation hello chat chat chat chat anybody nobody knows do you okay

Brian Atlaswhatever all right uh where were we okay you're you call yourself a liberal feminist um are we

Lily Phillipsyes right yeah well I but you haven't voted no and I guess my definition of feminist is like you want equality and kind I

Brian Atlasthink I think we're going we're going to get into the feminist stuff later I'm not like like yeah of course so hard on

Brian Atlasyour Twitter it states that you love being a slza yeah what's a sluzer a slag

Lily Phillipsslurt 34 SL slza slza is this like a British term or I don't know I just know it's like I'm guessing it's a British ter if you guys don't know it but

Brian Atlasyeah you do porn correct okay I'm just curious how many men have you done scenes with do you know do you keep count no I couldn't tell you do you have

Lily Phillipsa estimate a range um it's in the triple figures triple figures yeah okay wait trip yeah triple

Brian Atlastrip like in different men yeah yeah yeah okay got it um how many cuz in your pre-show notes you say that you're too

Lily Phillipsmuch of a to date anyone list is not my words your words you said too you're too much I'm just having too much

Brian Atlasfun being a slag to date anyone okay um and so you're not dating any civilians no no as they're called no I'm not taken

Brian Atlasanyone hostage just okay um do you I mean how long have you been involved in the adult industry three years three years during that time have you dated

Brian Atlasany civilians yes um but only for like six months six months do you tell them up front like cuz I'm sure like do you go out to bars

Lily Phillipsand clubs you meet a dude at a bar in a club do you have dating apps maybe it really depends but my dating app when I don't think I've got really many dating

Lily Phillipsapps anymore but when I did I set them into very um conservative photos and like um wait you'd send them conservative said it so it didn't like

Lily Phillipsreally attract like I wasn't posting like me like yeah it was just like like a selfie me with my dog like more conservative p and I didn't outright say

Brian Atlaslike what I do so but you would cuz you also said and I don't know if you said this okay you also said you've never knock what on the first date I've I've never not shaged someone on the first

Brian Atlasdat so every time you've been on the first date I can't help myself okay and are you you've dated while you've for the three years you've been doing porn you've dated during that

Brian Atlasperiod correct yeah like I've gone on dates not necess but so like would you disclose to them that you're involved in porn not all of them

Lily Phillipsno I okay look I mean you're just there's I suppose there's an argument to be especially if you just meet someone for one day and you shag and then you like you know you don't talk anymore

Brian Atlaslook I suppose you could make the argument that like you know you're not there's certainly no legal obligation certainly for you to disclose that you do porn from my from my view and perhaps

Brian Atlasmaybe a lot of men also would agree with me maybe the chat can weigh in here I would hope if I met a girl on a dating app or in person whatever that she would

Brian Atlasdisclose to me if she does porn so that I could so that I could rightly disqualify her here's the thing for me like even do you find it embarrassing

Lily Phillipslike if you were to sleep with someone and find out that they were afterwards a porn star would you be like embarrassed and why would why would you not tell them that you're a porn star just cuz

Lily Phillipswell sometimes like I just meet them for a date and I don't want to answer all the questions I mean that's one of the first questions what do you do yeah you should go our work online it's you would so you'd omit pardon you would omit

Lily PhillipsOmission what does that mean so you wouldn't maybe I just wouldn't admit it like i' just be like oh I you know I I work online it's really boring go but what would cause you to want to do that instead of just saying

TTS Readerthis is what I did because I sometimes I don't want to go through the whole conversation and like obviously people look at you so much differently and I just don't know go flannel donated $100

TTS ReaderLily would be a 10 but she's been ran through more than the Chicago Bears defensive line so she's a two I'm going to fix her I can fix her I got it we're

Brian Atlasgoing to make her a TRD not not my Trad wife but we'll make her a Trad wife it's a TR I actually should do a segment we should chat what do you think we should do a segment on the show where the only

Brian Atlasfans girls we come on we actually push them to like you do like less doing no not for we we we politely push

Lily Phillipsyou right to get out of the adult entertainment industry I'm not going to lie I don't think there's anything that would really what's that I don't think there's anything like that would really

Brian Atlasthat would push push you what to not to do it to not to do it what if I told you that yeah I can't think of anything actually never mind yeah I can't really

Lily Phillipshelp but well wanting a relationship with someone i' I've been in when I was in that relationship he said he was like he wants me to stop she said she's she wants to date a there there's many

Brian Atlaspeople that are in relationships that do only fans and important and also there are a lot of guys who are like into it like lot of guys I do want to stay on the topic so you said that you would not

Brian Atlasdisclose to like a civilian o that I mean look uh I I don't know if you have like some whether it's an ethical moral obligation to disclose but I know for me

Brian Atlasthat I would want a girl to disclose to me if she does porn so that I could make the decision of whether I'd want to pursue her or not down the the line like

Brian Atlasof but you say you sleep with the men on the first date and perhap like for me it's even if and I'm not interested in casual sex like there's for me I'm not interested in sleep sleeping with a girl once and never talking to her again

Brian Atlasthat's pointless to me um but even if I was inclined to do that I wouldn't even want to have casual sex with a woman who's promiscuous or who's done porn or who has a high body count cuz those things

Lily Phillipsare pretty much deal breakers for me yeah so I don't really go on dates with men that are like I I I mean to be fair we don't really talk about it that much before the date but like if someone's asking me on a first date like I mean I don't think I've ever been on a first

Lily Phillipsdate someone's been like what's your body count or like I I hate slers sles yeah right and

TTS Readerum I I do think uh kodon donated $100 a guy you just told you he's 100 plus women online is you

Brian Atlasfirst concern what his job is or how healthy he and his Seaman are Nickelodeon that's that's a pretty good point I mean one thing that comes with like the porn industry is like the uh

Brian Atlasthe houseal yeah and look I the the typical argument I hear on this is well we get tested every seven days or whatever 14 days whatever it is I don't know if there's different stand

Brian Atlasstandards in the UK I do yeah and perhaps it's the case that the incidence rate of like garia or Chia or whatever the primary things that they're testing for uh is lower in the porn industry but

Brian Atlaswhat's higher in the porn industry is HPV and herpes which they don't test for and if they did test for it and if having a positive test for those things precluded you from participating in porn

Lily Phillipsthe entire porn industry would collapse because most of these porn actors have herpes well I I do a full my understanding I do a full panel it includes like everything Ines yeah well

Brian Atlasthey take they take blood they have some oh yeah they so they do also test for HIV yes yes yes that's the one I forgot they make me swap my ass um swap my

Brian Atlasthrow but like yeah they swab what they swab you no no it's like you go and swab it yourself you're okay but so you you get like a do you get an email or you get a yeah an email okay do they show

Brian Atlasanything for herpes or HP really they show everything yeah they don't they don't test my understanding and we've had some other women in the porn industry don't entertainment industry I my understanding is they

Brian Atlasdon't check for herpes I'm pretty sure they Primary Care well no no no no no no okay I just want to be very precise here so there's the industry mandated STD testing my

Brian Atlasunderstanding for that they don't check for herpes and HPV now if you go to your doctor and you're in the porn industry and you want a full panel yeah everyone that I collab with I make sure that they

Brian Atlashave a full panel okay but but like okay the the porn industry like if you're doing only fans that's a bit different I think it's uh I'm not on pornh but if

Brian Atlasyou're like in the if you're in uh the San Fernando Valley and you're shooting like traditional porn and you want to participate in that way I'm pretty sure they're not checking I'm not

Lily Phillips100% sure you have to have a full panel I I would check okay all right well uh but also different STI are so much more common I feel like in just um in the

Lily Phillipsreal world yeah cuz people are for sure like yeah definitely even and also what's it say when I these guys on the dates I'm not using

Brian Atlasprotection well I mean you can certain STDs even if you're using a condom you can still uh transfer them transfer you

Emanuelknow but like I said that's just the rest of that life like that's just there's a crazy stat the average age of a porn star who dies their life expectancy

Emanuel37 and there was a crazy one that uh general population who does ecstasy 8% porn industry 50% and I'm curious what your thoughts are on that Joshua broom

Emanuelformer porn star male performer of the Year type thing he knew 35 people who self- deleted themselves right and why do you think that is being in it having

Lily Phillipsthe experience from your perspective well I think obviously sometimes people go into porn you know like Mia kifa and like people have Rec come out that it used to be very very

Lily Phillipsunsafe in terms of like they didn't protect their performers and stuff like that but like I mean for all the shoots I've been on it's all very very safe and like everyone is like are you okay are

Lily Phillipsyou consenting to this they give you a huge list on like what you want to do what you don't want to do and stuff like that do you shoot here in the US or in the UK

Brian AtlasI have shot here yes okay good times well okay so um right now you're not dating civilian

Brian Atlasmen no cuz you say you're a you're a slza yes you're you love being a slza yeah I love Co you I'm to be fair like I'm by okay all right you go both

Brian Atlasways all right you never not on the first date um wait okay question for you since I mean this is related to being slug we're going to do we're going to do all right

Lily Phillipsokay how many men have you had sex within the past three days three days three days three three men yeah okay past week I well because I've been here

Lily PhillipsI've been working every single day except from sat what day is it it's Tuesday Tuesday yeah yeah and but then I um went to like um a party and sorry a

Lily Phillipssex party yeah but it was only people who tested um so when was the party uh Saturday and it was a sex party well no no no it was someone's party but there was a sex it

Lily Phillipswas a sex party but I mean people were having sex it was a sex party okay I like people sign the hot tits out yeah but did you have did you have sex at the

Brian Atlasparty yes how many people did you have two two people yes two men uh a girl and boy girl and boy past week how many every day of the week and then with

Lily Phillipsa new a new guy yeah past month oh maths see I was in obviously I've come from

Lily PhillipsEngland um and I didn't really work much in England so probably like I'm going to say like virgin on like 17 past month okay

Lily Phillips2024 so that's we're we're a month and a half May yeah this is maths I know maths maths

Lily PhillipsI don't know I'm I think like prob what day is it Tuesday the 13th I'd guess like 25 30 I don't know 25 what about how was 2023

Lily Phillipslooking I'm I'm asking you need to try to work out how many people I've selected pretty much no but like I I didn't I don't work with that many

Lily Phillipspeople 20 your P 2023 what are we what are we working with you uh honestly couldn't tell you i' guess i' I'd

Lily Phillipsguess I guess like 100 I don't know I don't hold me to that like if you had the a like in a average week how many new men were you but then I I here I work with so many more people cuz

Lily Phillipsthere's so many more people to work there I'm working with the same people in the UK yes okay but when you're here there's it's like every single day how often did you come to the states well

Lily Phillipsthis is uh my second time how long are you um like allowed to stay here I'm curious 3 months so like are you on a tourist visa do the math on that so I'm

Lily Phillipsuh I'm now on holiday she's on holiday yes don't please don't send me that to England okay I'm wait okay 2023 so how

Brian Atlaswait let's I want to do a breakdown between like men you've shot scenes with and then civilian men see when I'm shooting with PE like guys I'm not really sleeping with guys

Brian Atlasum civilian guys that's but I mean you said you've been doing this for three years and you said during that time you have been I haven't always shot with guys oh so you'll have break periods

Lily Phillipsbasically yeah and also like there's no need for me to like always be shooting with different guys like here it's great you recycle yeah you recycle okay 2022 how was that looking oh M no I wasn't

Brian Atlasdoing um boy I just go go wait I I'm curious so you're 22 right yes started this you you got into the industry at 19

TTS Reader18 18 okay it was just like just as I was kind of turn grid One Motorsports donated $100 does the sluz bang multiple dudes

TTS Readerin one day do any finish in her as a man the one thing you never want to think about is another dude being able to ask how his D tastes Yik stop it get some

Lily Phillipshelp so if obviously stop it get some help if I'm having free like with I've had like free with guys and so obviously I'm shagging two guys in one day but if you're talking about like one guy and

Lily Phillipsthen the next guy yes but the first guy I will get him to like spunk on my face and not in to to what spook spunk SP spunk spunk oh okay yeah yeah okay um

Brian Atlasspunk my face not not in wait good to know so wait I am I'm so thoughtful you know so you said you said you do you've done three sums how many thre sums have

Lily Phillipsyou done do you think dude how how long's a piece of

Brian Atlasstring how many if you had to like give a range over 1003s no no no okay no not I'm not that much of a slack I saw a clip from some you know we do some pre

Brian Atlaspre-show research you said there was a hot tub 10 guys story did yeah that wasn't for a video that was just personal life but did

Lily Phillipsyou alter of the um like bits bits so like soaking off hand job and they were all

Emanueltested no this was before I did Bo um like boy girl with is the stuff you're doing now U more extreme from when you're 18 to now where you're at or is

Lily Phillipsless extreme no it's so much more safe and like people talk so much more openly about like your wants your needs like I said like you know you could could literally be like I don't want to do any of this just like I want it soft I want

Lily Phillipsit nice like wait so in actual sex we don't actually talk about that in the 10 guy hot tub thing how many yeah this is on a family ski holiday how many you

Lily Phillipsyeah had sex with a couple of them or all of them uh a couple of them in and was this a group thing or like you take one come back to the hot there was a hot tub and there was also a sauna and I was

Lily Phillipslike having sex with a couple of them in the SA and then others in the sauna I feel like it's kind of dangerous it you know it wasn't I I sauna almost daily

Lily Phillipsand I don't want to have sex in the son it's tie hard and it it really wasn't that bad I don't know it was cuz we're skiing it was really cold some it's not

Brian Atlasthat bad okay well so okay um how many thre SS have you had oh if you had to give the range not that many not that many oh okay I thought you were

Brian Atlasthe queen of three SS I'd say like 20 any four sums yeah any five sums one any six sums no seven sums eight

Brian Atlassums I don't really I don't really I'm not like one two but you know what I mean I'm just I'm just to grid One Motorsports question how many in a 24-hour period like how many in a

Lily Phillips24-hour period Nick um four on separate occasions in like a one day this was one evening okay and it wasn't group it was

Lily Phillipsone no no no this was separate no one of them was a threesome oh one was a threesome and then with a girl and a boy and then the others were all and then it was so one guy one it was a threesome

Brian Atlaswith a guy and a girl and then one guy and then one guy I see okay and this was for shooting scenes or was this like a sex party type thing for fun it was a

Lily Phillipswhat it was for fun it was for fun yes was it like a swingers thing was like a sex club horny and what was the guys

Lily Phillipsactually knew I was no it was actually on holiday you were on holiday it was in IA okay sorry I don't know that gets any context what that isn't that an island

Brian Atlasin yeah it's prober like party H Island yeah yeah yeah is that in Spain uh

Brian Atlasso was a DJ involved no I feel like that's just like DJs and I whatever um wait so what about so four in one

Lily Phillipsnight that's the most yeah except from obviously like but that wasn't sex like with the 10 guys right wait so the hot tub thing you had sex with all 10 no that's what I'm

Lily Phillipssaying I didn't have sex with all 10 the four in one night was all sex wait so okay give give me a breakdown of I want a detailed breakdown of the hot tub thing was that also on vacation I was

Lily Phillipsquite drunk so yes holiday holiday holiday goes down goes down on holiday I meet this bunch of guys and they're like come back to us we have a hot tub I

Lily Phillipsjust you and my friend was also there but she uh her boyfriend was friends with them and so she had gone um already like in in another bedroom with a boyfriend so so it's just me in the hot

Lily Phillipstub with all these guys and so okay I want like a chronological order of what went down with the story like I was just making jokes like this is how you start out like you just start making jokes

Lily Phillipsyou're like ha wouldn't it be funny if we all shagged right now it's a good one good job and then like they started to definitely get into it you know like people are like

Lily Phillipstouching my thighs and I'm like yeah my do my tits look nice and people like filling me up she belongs to the streets okay and then I'm filling them up and then like you know but but like give me

Lily Phillipsa ple by play do you want like me to film this next time do you want but I want to he wants the visual I want the scope of I don't know

Lily Phillipsit was exactly 10 guys that was kind of like a rough I just know it was a load of guys oh so it could have been more than 10 guys I but yeah but I I don't were there any other girls no it was it

Brian Atlaswas you my friend and but she dipped she dipped so you're there with 10 dudes some of them you know so like but what is the progression because it s it sounds like you were sexually involved

Lily Phillipswith some of them to varying degrees so I want like I want like a detailed yeah playby play so then obviously when you start touching each

Lily Phillipsother up people get horny and they they start to get hard on and they're feeling your tits and like kissing your tits and then you start kissing down their body

Lily Phillipsand kissing their and then like you know the guys are there some of the guys are sat there watching some of the guys are you know ones getting out

TTS Readerbit of a handy you're the one like kissing him and stuff like that and then and then it was more like towards the end of it DOC ven donated

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Brian Atlaspandemic will come I pray East End girl reforms before it arrives oh doc vas he's a doctor here syphus was dead until penicillin

Brian AtlasHIV all right East East I don't know that's a song or something um thank you doc finis appreciate it and by the way I I actually want to credit you for being uh open about talking some of these

Brian Atlasthings because some people would may not feel comfortable being so forthcoming and sharing this sort of stuff so I certainly give you uh credit for your

Brian Atlashonesty um so okay hot tub a dozen a Baker's Dozen maybe um

Brian Atlashow many of them did you have intercourse with two two and then but then like some many like did you I don't know like I guess like four

Lily Phillipsor five four or five1 like touched up like hand job or like kissing or like and so so two guys you had intercourse with yeah cuz they were well like they were

Lily Phillipslike oh like let's go to the sauna and to it and I was like yeah and then did any how many BJs were were were given I

Lily Phillipsyou know I was pretty drunk but I'd guesstimate like three4 through in a and does that count like is that so is it

Brian Atlassix six like did the guys who also had sex did they also was there also the the BJ too what is no no I've counted them into the number so those are

Lily Phillipsdifferent so like when I say five four or five I've counted them in in to the BJ count does that make sense I'm like

Lily Phillipslosing my mind sort of okay

Lily Phillipsum is that a good enough like visual representation of what happened but it was a really fun trip and I feel like don't take this the wrong way I feel

Lily Phillipslike that just that story has to preclude you from like 90% of men I'm sorry I'm sorry I don't mind that like it doesn't offend me that

Lily Phillipspeople don't want to date me like that's totally their decision and and that's fair for you yeah yeah exactly but like obviously I don't want to date guys that aren't into it do your parents know

Lily Phillipsthese stories no they don't obviously I'm not like sat at the dining table Mom Dad guess what I got up to today if they've found this podcast how would they react you know what I tell them to

Brian Atlasstay off the internet mom and dad I I actually want to add like and I'm not like I know I was kind of reacting while you're telling that story like I put a lot of I put some of

Brian Atlasthe blame on the men there too because like as a guy I would be so uncomfortable in that situation like it's

Brian Atlasjust weird that's so like I don't know chat like that's so weird I as a guy to

Brian Atlaslike I don't know like seeing your buddies like I don't want to be in vicinity of my buddies like getting hand

Brian Atlasjobs that's kind of like sus it's can I say it is it kind of is

Brian Atlasit kind of who you are it might be a little uh a little a fet if I can avoid saying a certain word it might be uh is

Lily Phillipsthat was that rainbow I don't know it's just like I BL like come on but then I I don't think there's no need to put like a label on anything like we're just having

Brian Atlasfun you but I never like I don't know are these your boys like how how are you like I don't think it's considered gay at all it's like no it's kind of it's I

Brian Atlasdidn't think it was guy I thought it was really hot all jokes aside I'm a cyber security open source Intel expert you don't own anything you post and I'm not a blank fiend sorry the TTS doesn't come through if there's any like censored

Brian Atlaswords it won't did are you prepared to explain Mega faltio and DP to your kids what is Mega falatio I don't even know what that Mega falacio what is like I think that's like a mega I swear that's like fos

Lily Phillipsis where you self suck on yourself that is it I'm Prett sure Flo is like self I'm Googling this look away Manny you like suck yourself oh

Lily Phillipsno what the like foreplay I don't know what a mega it's just like pretty sure fio is where you like suck yourself off how do you even do that I don't know people who were like people some people are probably like very flexible there

Unknownwas like um a show on where it was like this guy and he was I could suck my tits I suck my tits can I ask you a question Here [Music]

Brian AtlasComes oh what is going on tonight okay welcome guys welcome guys wait so okay uh

Unknownuh I just I I don't get like how could you be I I don't know can I ask a question yeah of course we need to hear more from them

Lily PhillipsI don't I don't mean this in a mean way but does sex have any meaning for you see I actually put this in my thing I was like I don't think it's that deep

Natalie Winterspersonally I mean like you can obviously have deep sex but I don't think having sex is deep like most my second question I given my line of work I'm very intrigued by like the I

Natalie Winterswould say very negative side effects of the sexual Revolution and like women's sexual promiscuity because I think women Bond differently with their Partners when they have sex whereas men they can like have sex with a bunch of women and

Natalie Wintersthere's no emotional attachment even from like a chemical level do you not feel like attached I.E like if you have sex with a guy and you don't hear back from him or he goes to like does that

Lily Phillipshurt you at all or do sex just not mean anything to you personally like i' I've heard of this like that girls get this kind of like hormone release or something like that yeah but personally in my experience not not really like obviously sometimes you're like oh I

Natalie Wintersfancy that guy but like especially in work it's very like it's not real sex like it's very so do you think that the sex that you have done in your work life has maybe changed the way you perceive

Lily Phillipssex in your personal life you know what I was being a before I started only fans anyway and so not hugely but I I guess to some degree yeah definitely

Lily Phillipsbut I I'm like I don't know some I see it as more like just an exchange like it's not it's not like oh I love this guy feelings like it's more like did you always view sex like that even like from the first time you had sex or did it

Lily Phillipsused to mean something to you it used to mean something like when I Chang um I guess when I I broke up my first boyfriend that was just really horny and like just wanted to about and then

Lily Phillipsthat's kind of when like the downfall all happened but the first time I was like I wanted to kind of like wait a bit more but and then I was just like oh

Lily Phillipsit's just not that deep and just kind of around for the most part uh yeah sorry sorry uh wait so uh

Brian Atlaswhat were we talking about oh yeah yeah of course you're telling us about like how many CI civilians you wait hold on okay okay hold on wait and you went to UNI right

TTS ReaderI actually dropped out of you need to do what I did's flannel donated $100 Jes Mega fation equals sing all that e for clarification uh okay thank you

Brian Atlasbricken's flannel appreciate the clarification there Mega felicio never heard of that thank you um oh it's for the books oh uni you went to UNI yes I don't know if I saw this from one of

Lily Phillipsyour Clips you said you had a lot of sex at Uni yeah loads load it's so funny cuz like I feel like I was more of a then than I am now cuz like now I do it for work so it's like I don't

Emanuelneed to be about all the time huh what was the sex education from your parents from childhood from not really any first sexual experiences yeah not

Lily Phillipsreally any I feel they just told me not don't have sex until you're like old but that was about it they didn't teach me anything about it no wait so okay when you you say you and you were in uni for

Lily Phillipsfour years or did you drop out no no no I dropped out to do what I do now how how long were you doing uni one or two years I went to once like one one um lesson and that was that was right when you were 18 right yes like as soon as

Lily Phillipsyou finished or after the summer after when finished what do you call it is it grade school what do you call it UK some people go to um a levels do a levels but I went to college cuz I am

Lily Phillipsstupid oh so there's University and then there's college no no no no okay so you go school um you finish at 16 and then it's rather you do a levels or you do btech at college and that's what I did

Lily Phillipsbtech at college is that what you call uni is that uni no no no and then and then you do after for two years or however long it takes you so you said you were you

Brian Atlaswere more promiscuous when you were in uni than you are now yeah probably um so what did that look like okay your first week of uni your first week of uni what did it look like

Lily Phillipswhat you talking just a lot of like I'm a shag give us give us some beats give us some numbers well I was there with my best friend and we would like Tag Team guys so if they were best friends we would be like right well you take him

Lily Phillipsand I'll take him and we would always best friends like that was um the kind of okay wait so okay you like first

Lily Phillipsweek what are we looking at um yeah probably like every night I went out I'd come home with a guy every night yeah and that's why I had my first five Su

Lily Phillipsand first three s wait your first week of your first week of uni no it was like your first semester of un Yeah so basically cuz I only did one I went to one lesson but I I stayed at un I didn't tell my parents that I'd started only

Lily Phillipsfans and just stayed in the accommodation but didn't go any lessons wait so you took one lesson and then you started right it's time to be a degenerate and start only fans okay and

Brian Atlasso you said your first semester of uni uh almost were you going out partying every night every night like every almost every night yeah every night or almost no almost every night five five

Lily Phillipsnights a week fair to say yeah when I when I wasn't going out I was texting guys she and so every single night you went out you would have sex yeah almost that was like that was like Our intention we'd be like right I can't

Lily Phillipswait to go out tonight and find some like fit friends to and like who you know what we'd always say who's better we going to end up in tonight not and so you said you had a five some yeah

Brian Atlaswith four guys no it it was two guys and three girls how does that even work okay cool and then you had a three you had a couple thre SS too during uni yeah okay how long were you you in uni for 4

Lily Phillipsmonths uh I think I stayed in the accommodation for about 6 months cuz it was like three accommodation away from home where I could do only fans in the privacy of having my own like room okay and also like it was great cuz then I

Emanuelcould a load of guys cuz I wasn't living at home anymore right can I jump in just I don't know that story it'll still be there and not to be the wet blank and not to be the whatever but it

Emanuelis so hard listening to it cuz it sounds like it's a nice ski resort you're there hot tub sauna whole bit it was a resort type situation and I'm literally thinking about my two sons you know were

Emanuelgoing to play in the pool we got the daughter on the way we got all this stuff and it's like if they were to see something like that oh it wasn't was it a private like house but thinking about how just on

Emanuelthat scenario though like let's just say we walked by me and my three kids and they saw that how would that make you feel it no it wasn't like I think she stated that yeah it was like a private

Lily PhillipsChalet um and the hot tub was was just theirs like it wasn't like a a resort where there's families there and stuff like that I'm not I'm not doing anything in front of kids I'm not doing you're

Emanuelnot doing anything in public correct but to to say that though the average age that a young one starts watching is eight and so saying I'm not

Lily Phillipsin front of kids she just said no but she is no on porn but then shouldn't that be the parents like um their obligation tell me how this makes you

Brian Atlasfeel okay but be we did give a warning before the show that we don't want to discuss uh like young people then we can

Emanueljust end it on this we can ended on this of just an answer a truthful honest answer of just how would that make you feel that totally makes me feel sick

Lily Phillipslike of course I don't want anyone underage watching my content but that is also that is also not really fully my responsibility it is the parents it is

Emanuelyou know their guardian or just their education I think about uh Britney D Laura former actress in the adult

Emanuelindustry she stood up to this she is speaking up against it we think about education how much that can help I'm not going to say the word uh blockers on our

Lily Phillipsphones um and I I do think the porn Community could do more to you know make sure that only people over AG are watch him but that's that's kind of the the Crux of it all if I could give you $100

Emanuelmillion or if I could say you could save 10 marriages 10 self-d deletions and 10 women being you know what well it's an act just I can't do like no you can you can I really don't think it's fault

Emanuelthough cuz there's thousands of other girls doing it too so that's what I'm saying what I'm saying is what an inspiration she could be if she spoke up against it that's what I'm saying and if it could help those people would it be worth

Beccait it still wouldn't change anything yeah I just might not change something yeah you're just discrediting yourself you're believing that you can't make any type of difference but how does any movement start it starts with one person

BeccaManny stood up and said to me hey I have a problem and I need help and we've been able to see the impact that that's had on hundreds of families hundreds of couples you know and it's easy to it's

Beccavery easy to sit there and just discredit yourself and say I can't do anything I can't help the world you can you can change the world and it starts one person one family at a time finding

Beccahealing and people being willing to stay stand up and say what's happening right now is not right and what's happening to Children's Minds is not right and you can make a difference

Brian Atlasyou guys have a fantastic Mission it feels a little bit like a non Secor though because we're talking about her pre porn promiscuity and I would like to

Brian Atlastry to attempt to stay focused on the topic at hand um

Brian Atlasso let's perhaps return to uh to that so uh you were saying how uh let's see what where where you're telling us about the

Brian Atlashot tub you're tell you're telling us about uh uni your uni experience I'm not laughing I'm not laughing so I mean what was that you

Lily Phillipsknow looking like just having fun going out a lot and sleeping around a

Lily Phillipslot okay and so and I obviously just started ear fans so I was like I earn enough to be able to like support myself and yeah it was just so much fun I

Lily Phillipsactually really enjoyed the UN why did you decide to start doing only fans like what was the you know what I wanted to do it for a while when I was with my exboyfriend um and then I broke up with

Lily Phillipshim and I was like yeah why not start it I already had like a slight platform I don't want to be like I've got so many followers but I already had like a slight platform on Instagram and I

Natalie Wintersthought like you know I can make some if only fans didn't exist do you think you would have stayed in University gotten a degree and like got a more traditional job or what do you think probably probably I definitely think it was only

Lily Phillipsfans that led me to porn definitely cuz I realized how much I enjoyed it that I was like yeah I want to like do this even more and stuff like that and grow more and but yeah I don't know maybe

Natalie Winterslike but then again I was like oh I don't even know really what I was doing in uni and I was I mean I went one I can't say you think that for other girls it sounds like you've been successful in in the industry but like for other girls

Natalie Winterswho are maybe wavering like oh should I you know go get a license and do cosmetology or go get my I'm believe me I'm anti- colge I'm anti- degrees but like you know stay in University and get whatever degree or I could just drop out and go to only fans and make a bunch of

Lily Phillipsmoney which again statistically not necessarily true narrative do you think that that's sort of a a risky path you know what I have like a ton of girl not a ton I have quite a few girls come to me every so often and say I really want

Lily Phillipsto get into the industry like I want to start any fans how do I do this how do I do that like what do you think should I you know like just asking for my opinion and I do always always say please think about it so much cuz like do you give

Lily Phillipsthem your referral code on only fans too well if if I said well first of all I say really really think about it make sure it's something you really want to do like you know talk to your parents

Lily Phillipsabout and make sure like people you know you're not going to get like I don't know just have a good thing cuz it has a full impact on your life and then um you know I let them think about it

Lily Phillipsand if they still want to go through with it then yeah of course I'll offer my refer Cod if if they're not getting off me they're going to get off someone else like it's not um but if they really want to do it then yeah like yeah but I

Natalie Wintersalways say like it's not as easy as what people make it out no one's successful over well not many people I think that's the real Sinister nature of only fans and it soundss like you guys aren't necessarily perpetuating the myth but

Lily Phillipsthat it is just like easy money and I think that that's just like a PR black wet dream for only fans some people obviously like do get you know like the people who are already famous but like it is it's I'm not saying I've got the

Lily Phillipshardest job in the world or anything like that but it it's hard like I I work hard I'd like to say but I'm not saying like I've got the Hest job but yeah it's a lot harder than it looks online cuz

Lily Phillipspeople just think you take a few photos and then you know you're set for life but that's just not the TR yeah so kind of where I was leading into with all these questions I know I was

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