Brian REJECTS Her LIVE?! 200+ Body Count?! Valentine's Day SCAM?! | Dating Talk #135

Date: 2024-02-14

Duration: 6h 37m

Guests

Brian Atlas

LLily Phillips >

AAndrea (DT135)>

HHazel (DT135)>

JJade (DT135-LV)>

NNatalie Winters >

AAtlantis (DT135)>

BBecca (Team Vulnerable)>

EEmanuel (Team Vulnerable)>

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00TTS Reader(audience)

SPEAKER_01Emanuel(guest)

SPEAKER_02Jade(guest)

SPEAKER_03Atlantis(guest)

SPEAKER_04Becca(guest)

SPEAKER_05TTS Reader(audience)

SPEAKER_06Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_08Hazel(guest)

SPEAKER_10Natalie Winters(guest)

SPEAKER_11Andrea(guest)

SPEAKER_12Lily Phillips(guest)

Key Moments

IntroLily Phillips self-introduction as "online slag / porn star"

“hello my name is Lillian Phillips I'm 22 I'm from Darbyshire England and I am an online slag otherwise known as porn star or only fans ho whatever you want to call it”

ControversyBrian explicitly rejects Lily live on show: would not date her due to porn career and body count

“even if I was inclined to do that I wouldn't even want to have casual sex with a woman who's promiscuous or who's done porn or who has a high body count cuz those things are pretty much deal breakers for me”

OtherLily reveals she had a labiaplasty ~2 years prior for cosmetic reasons; went clubbing the night of surgery

“I actually went out like clubbing the night I got it done cuz they got me on... I did have sex like a week after I had it done and the stitches came out”

QuoteBrian states he has not performed oral sex on a woman since the "Bush Administration" (~2007-2008)

“I haven't gone down on a girl since the Bush Administration”

ControversyLily discloses 200+ body count and provides breakdown: ~150-200+ civilian, ~50 scenes

“definitely triple digits I couldn't tell you what it is... probably not more than 200... in the hundreds... about 50 [scenes]”

ControversyLily describes hot tub incident on family ski holiday involving approximately 10 men

“there was a hot tub and there was also a sauna... having sex with a couple of them... two [intercourse]... four or five [other acts]”

Key MomentBecca reveals husband had erectile dysfunction on their wedding night due to porn addiction

“your husband literally can't get it up for you... he's struggling with this so much that he's having Ed and can't get it up for me”

ControversyJade reveals ex-partner was secretly addicted to gay porn; discovered via Wi-Fi router history; he used her credit card for OnlyFans; had filed a marriage license but never married

“I went through the Wi-Fi router... he was actually severely addicted to porn even got to the point where he was using my own credit cards to buy only fans”

Key MomentBecca gives testimony: lost God in college, believed she was only good for sex, found redemption; encouraged Lily that she is not "too far gone"

“I had you know I grew up Christian completely turned away from God when I was in college and I started believing certain things about myself that I was an object... you rated yourself a six and that's ridiculous you are so so beautiful”

QuoteBrian explains "dating creep" concept: once a woman dates a high-value man it's hard to go back

“once you start dating a certain caliber of man you start like having dating creep... it's like hard to like date the normal average guy once you've had a taste of like a certain tier of man”

QuoteNatalie Winters states OnlyFans and porn are part of a broader agenda to destroy Western civilization

“there are corporations that want you to be sitting there and saying that because they want you to buy into this narrative because they are intent on the destruction of Western civilization”

Topics Discussed

Introductions and relationship statuses

Guests introduce themselves; discuss current relationship statuses, situationships, and OnlyFans business model.

OnlyFans debate: empowerment vs. societal harm

Extended debate between OnlyFans creators and Natalie Winters/Manny/Becca on whether OnlyFans normalizes objectification, harms relationships, contributes to declining birth rates and Western civilization.

Porn addiction and Team Vulnerable nonprofit

Manny and Becca discuss Team Vulnerable; Manny's 15-year porn addiction, ED on wedding night, recovery. Programs for couples, singles, and parents.

Valentine's Day commercialization

Discussion of Valentine's Day spending (men ~$190 vs women ~$96 average), gift preferences, whether it is a scam.

Foodie calls and women using men for free meals

Study cited: ~33% of women have gone on dates purely for free food. New York Post story of woman who got groceries free for 2 years via dates.

Marriage pros/cons and prenuptial agreements

Brian explains why marriage is a bad deal for high-earning men: community property, alimony, legal costs. Debate on religious vs civil marriage.

Violence/BDSM in porn and 50 Shades of Grey

Discussion of aggression in mainstream porn (88% statistic), choking trend post-50 Shades of Grey, impact on real-world relationship expectations.

Dating apps and modern dating challenges

Women claim men who use dating apps aren't real men. Roleplay experiment: women pretend to be men hitting on Madison. Discussion of Tinder match disparity.

Tinder bizarre date story (Andrea)

Andrea shares story of a wealthy bisexual man from Tinder who wanted to pay for plastic surgeries and customize women like "Barbie dolls"; had paid for transgender partner's surgery.

Brian's Hearthstone/World of Warcraft tangent

Brian goes on extended tangent about quitting World of Warcraft in April 2020, his Hearthstone rank (rank 33 world, Warlock 1623 wins), why video games are addictive.

Body count discussion and hypocrisy debate

Lily reveals 200+ body count. Round-table body counts disclosed. Debate on whether men with high body counts are hypocrites for wanting low-body-count partners.

Lily's personal life stories

Lily shares: university sex life, hot tub incident (~10 men, family ski holiday), sex party, 4 encounters in one day, thoughts on body count mattering.

Jade's ex-partner porn addiction discovery

Jade reveals 2-year quasi-engagement ended when she found ex watching gay porn via Wi-Fi router history; he had been using her credit card for OnlyFans.

Self-ratings (1-10 looks)

Guests rate their own physical attractiveness. Hazel claims 10. Brian rates himself a 5. Debate on realistic self-assessment and hypergamy.

Hypergamy and dating marketplace dynamics

Brian's extended analysis: average women chasing above-average men; lifestyle creep in dating; men get front-end rejection, women get back-end rejection.

Transcript

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Brian Atlasdudes I don't know if any of you saw that oh I did slept with like 20 guys in a 10day vacation or something maybe she did maybe she saw that on Tik Tok yeah maybe she did maybe she didn't but like

Brian Atlasit would be expedient as an only fans girl to say the most outrageous so you get like some it's very small yeah yeah women like they do it so they lie so I would much rather invite people on who are like actually going to be like

Brian Atlashonest and forthcoming about their actual dating experiences instead of just coming on and like making something up that's inauthentic and I'm not going to expose any like I'm not going to name names but we'll have like only fans

Brian Atlasgirls who've come on the show most of the time I think the of girls tend tend to be honest however we've definitely had girls come on the show oh I'm single and then after the show they're like oh I've been dating a guy for 3 years oh

Brian Atlasyeah and then it's just like totally like anyways um not to linger on this for too long but um so uh where was I going with that yes oh

Brian Atlasright we were going to talk about oh does anybody here disagree with me on anything um that's something I'd like to start try to start some of the shows with if any disagrees with me maybe you

Jadesaw a clip and you're like I disagree with him on that I'd like to start there anybody you having a girlfriend for 3 years and then or a long amount of time I heard this on a podcast of yours one time you had a longtime girlfriend oh

Jadeokay and um you only took her out like twice from Once wait and how old is she I think how old is she oh this is a long time ago I think I was

Lily Phillipsum 22 and she was 19 something like that I've been on the fresh and fit podcast and they've got like 16-year- old girlfriend's Weir I just had to make sure you're not one of them wait so what's the question so I I think

Jadethat's just the dating her yeah and you only took her out like twice that is and on top of that on top of that you said that you didn't pay pay for it or that you split it 50/50 with her when you took her out

Brian AtlasI think that is so insane to me that concept I I don't understand how she it was great it was a great relationship he knew he wasn't going to it was great for well it ended she wasn't going to have your baby that's why that was a

Brian Atlascomplicated uh it was a complicated relationship it was uh it was a long-term relationship that I had that was um we were a bit younger so it's

Brian Atlaskind of like very started out fairly casual and uh I won't get into too many details but I basically like for a pretty long period of the relationship didn't take her seriously because of

Brian Atlassome indiscretions that she had at the start so I kind of like um I did not want to take her seriously ly for a long-term relationship okay it was a very complicated relationship I'm

Brian Atlasfairly confident she had boardline personality disorder um so there was a lot of uh lot of issues in that relationship most of my other relationships uh were a

Jadelot more uh smooth sailing I guess you could say did you pay for their dates so huh did you pay for the dates you went on the smooth sailing with her no the other ones since then do you pay for the first date do you pay for the second for the most part yeah okay yeah for the

Brian Atlasmost part are you in a relationship back my disagreement are you in a relationship I cannot disclose my I I I have to I have some uh some uh Ops let's say so I try to I'm going to keep that

Brian Atlason WS I got op I just want to know BR I'm getting death threats I don't know if you know about whatever podcast and you're making us discl I got like people trying to Dock and like death threats

Brian Atlasand so I try to keep things a little vague but um yeah so no I just want to know if I could hit or not well oh you're you're wondering if you could hit as in have sexual

Brian Atlasintercourse with me well you're an attractive woman however I have to uh I have to politely turn you down on that because there's videos of you on the internet having sexual intercourse with other men which for me is a a big no now

Brian Atlasa deal breaker have you watched any of them uh no I think you know we do we look at people's twitters before and I had the misp leasure of having to look at your Twitter which is absolutely

Brian Atlasdegenerate but um I did look at your Twitter and there were some you certainly have sexual intercourse with other men Twitter thank me for the good

Brian Atlasone but um yeah I I appreciate the uh the invitation but I I must graciously I you know I can't do it you know it's uh

Brian Atlasthe the just by simp just by virtue of you having had sex with another man on camera for me it's a deal break you're cute though and that kind of like

Lily Phillipswith cute I I'm cute in that kind of like weird you're cute toter kind of play you know thank you I appreciate it

Brian AtlasI have aush on you he's blushing he's blushing we got this is another like this is another Lila situation yeah I mean when it comes

Brian Atlasto like would I date a girl who does only fans I've I've had different answers on this like previously I said so long as she never did any content with the man that used to be but like

Brian Atlasit's still suboptimal yeah suboptimal I'm like very much I've never dated a woman who's done only fans even like

Brian Atlastame tame only fans yeah is it possible like it's very suboptimal it's I mean I I have a strong preference for dating women who don't

Brian Atlasbut like could there be a woman who's so amazing but she she she did solo content Maybe are you are you one of them people

Lily Phillipswho's like I want my girl to be a little virgin I prefer woman with a low body count and if that means she's a virgin what's a low body count for in your eyes

Brian AtlasI mean it depends on the age but I mean the the lower the better so I mean a virgin would be the most Optimum uh yeah but does she have to be a virgin no but

Brian Atlaswould that be like the ultimate uh in terms of the body count discussion would be a low I'd say Le that's a fairly good Benchmark less than 10 is pretty good

Brian Atlasless than five is Stellar so just it just gets better the lower you yeah the lower you go the same way it's like with with the amount of money a guy makes the

Lily Phillipsmore commas the better you know you'd like you know one would be well one I mean perhaps the zeros not Comm zeros that's

Lily Phillipsdecent but um wait what do you mean if they're what yeah what age what age age are you like well we're talking about you could be 35 and be a virgin no I mean is it I mean as in like what age

Brian Atlaswould you go like is your optimal age he just trying to get his type age is just a number I mean an adult woman but uh generally i'

Brian Atlasgenerally I would say I date people I'm 34 I typically typically have dated people around my age um but I mean I'd date someone who's 21 I would have no

TTS Readerproblem with that so yeah I mean you got a chance sorry sorry what's up oh yeah guys go to

Brian Atlastwitch.tv/ whatever drop us a follow drop us a prime sub if you have one uh thank you guys for all the Primes also go to our YouTube channel Nick if you can pull that up uh guys go to our Clips

Brian AtlasChannel whatever second on YouTube mod spam that in the uh chat we're going to get that I feel like I'm being interrogated here getting a bit sweaty getting a bit uh

Brian Atlasturntables the turntables people to disagree with uh so yeah low the lower the body count the better uh preferably no o but

Brian Atlasagain conceivably if this woman is like amazing and that's kind of sweet to but truth be told again like it the bar is here but again if I have other women to

Brian Atlaschoose from I would almost overwhelmingly pick a woman who has not done oh definitely why is she looking at me that way what the

Brian Atlasokay okay I just want to yeah Brian I think uh hold on I got to do something for go for it say that wait say say that again I just want to

Emanuelyou I'm I'm going to let Andrew Tate he a respond from is he going to sh at me I could film it Manny go ahead I was just going to

Emanuelsay um you know sexual harass am I being sexually harass I'm sorry if you feel uncomfortable no it's all good I can I'm a good sport um one topic is you know ladies are you happy

Emanuelwith the state of where men are at in general right now just the average man on the street if we walk down you know this street down here are we happy with where men are at in society or we think they need to be more manly less manly

Andreasleeping with less sleeping with more more manly yeah I think they need to be more manly like so when people say like toxic mascul it I honestly feel like that's like to water down the masculine

Andreaenergy men have and make them more feminine like that Timothy shyamala guy or like harir shal like you know stuff like that like

AndreaI could never be with a guy like that like I want a guy who can protect me and you know just provide and so and then like the toxic masculinity like I feel like they need our feminine energy and

Andreawhat toxic masculinity it's made up it's made up to water them down to be feminine like I do not believe in that I think men need to be more manly they

Emanueldon't you want the talk talk yes we love it we love it okay there we go and then I was going to say Brian are you happy on the reverse with where women are at right

Brian Atlasnow uh I mean there's great women out there but I I think there's a trend in both men and women uh men are lacking in masculinity women are lacking in

Brian Atlasfemininity uh I think there's a lot of degeneracy and and uh you know I think you know you have men addicted to porn uh I think then that's something that you guys are

Brian Atlason a crusade against and then uh or helping men with at least and uh you know women are uh or and also men are you know very I used to play video games but I I think a lot of men are suffering

Emanueladditionally from video game addiction maybe that's uh your next uh who knows thing but uh you know I was going to say because we all have this moral Rel relativism I can never say that word correctly but just you have an idea what

Emanuelyou think is right you have an idea you have an idea you have an idea and it's interesting you know as we were preparing for this just going back to what do we believe you know where where is our morals coming from you know we all have this natural law in our heart

Emanuelof we know what's right we know what's wrong and when we look back you know we said we got to go to the good book we open up the Bible and we're looking at things like don't have premarital sex uh don't be committing adultery don't be

Emanuelsexually immoral three sums you name it and we looked at why is this the case you know why is it we shouldn't be having premarital sex and it was interesting just writing down why would

EmanuelGod say something like that and we looked at they want to get pregnant before they want to have an STD before don't want to bring shame to the family don't want to bring something hard into the relationship and also just especially and this is my cety to you

Emanuelguys because I care about you guys of the whole idea of you know you working with these boyfriends but who knows who they are because we don't know the names we don't have IP addresses and if there's somebody in their basement

Emanuelthey're saying hey I can lock her up and keep her down there and it's just it it frightens me and and I care about you guys and so I'm glad we're just getting to be here I get to say something like that but just coming back to where do we

Emanuelall draw our moral standards from because Brian saying 10 women is fine maybe one maybe only fans maybe not only fans and some people are saying virgin and where are we drawing these things from and then bigger than that is it

Andreaworking for us in society or maybe should we start looking back to the good book instead I think the Bible's made up um and I think like the Ten Commandments honestly was just something to kind of

Andrealike scare us into being good into like you know but I also feel like the Bible and the Ten Commandments is kind of like a coping mechanism for some people to just like you know live dayto day and be good do that you'll get to heaven when

Andreayou die you know it's kind of just like uh kind of like some Assurance you know when they die you know they feel comfortable um but honestly like you know when you say like premarital sex I don't agree with that because it's like

Andreaokay you marry somebody and what if you guys aren't compatible sexually so it's like and then you have to go through a whole divorce and all of that well a couple things first when Beck and I first got married you know it took time you know it took time and that's one of

Emanuelthe beautiful things about marriage is I ain't going nowhere you ain't going nowhere we are iron sharpening iron we are improving each other and that's a really really cool thing and there's this interesting stat of

Beccaum women have a lot more orgasms and sexual satisfaction when they're actually married there was this crazy stat we read where it was um only 11% of

Beccawomen will have an orgasm the first time they hook up with someone now before I met Manny I I definitely struggled in college I I slept around for a time and yeah I never had an orgasm with someone

Beccayou know this is something people don't want to talk about it's just like oh even in porn like um there's another stat where only 18% of porn scenes show women having

Beccaorgasms the on done they make him it but when we talk about like oh porn and it's female empowerment but it's just like it's not even showcasing women as

Beccaimportant enough to get that enjoyment out of having sex you know um yeah it's big part sometimes I I obviously you can

Lily Phillipsget pleasure from not coming um but and also sometimes it's just like it's a job at the end of the day like it's getting the job done like you know we're on set for like a long day you're not going to

Emanuelbe like sat there for 20 minutes I don't know trying to make yourself gosh you want to go I want to come back to the Bible thing for just a second just because that was one thing of coming on and being in front of millions of people potentially like what do you believe and

Emanuellooking back at it it was a very interesting thing um one of them was we have to have objective truth right so you can't say my truth is the truth and your truth is the truth and your truth is the truth because how do you know that to be true so we have to have some

EmanuelTruth uh one of the things that atheists have uh said is that space time and matter bam the Big Bang so if there was no space time and matter before something had to be before so some God some something had to be there before and then we look at could a miracle

Emanuelhappen well if God could create the world then he can make Miracles and then you look at Jewish writers who were talking to Jesus and Jesus saying I'm the Son of God it would be Blasphemous for them to make this up just the whole

Emanuelidea of hey this guy he died on a cross took our sins rose from the dead performed all these Miracles it wouldn't make any sense for them to make him up and I think one of the biggest things for my faith was just when Jesus uh ascended to Heaven he said Make

EmanuelDisciples of all Nations and these guys went all over the world and they all died crucifixion eaten stabbed crucified upside down and it's like why would they have done that if they didn't believe

Emanuelnow I have my personal faith and I have evidence of yeah I can back that up and I can look into these things and archaeologically and historically we can look into it but going back to the um orgasm cuz I'm going to be the big

Emanuelexpert on that topic just going back quickly um you know it's interesting in porn uh if you don't have a 14-in penis and you're someone like me with only a 12 in you know you're considered

Emanuelterrible um I wish but well anyway but the whole idea is you know you were shamed and you're never going to be able to please a woman and and the fact that what is it uh 75% of women can't even

Emanuelhave an orgasm about 70% can't experience an orgasm from penis and vagina sex and and it's interesting because if we just want to have orgasms if we just just want to do that well we can all jerk off the porn we can all

Emanuelgrab the vibrator we can be by ourselves and we don't need to be by anyone and that's you know coming back to the original point of one of the things with men in this world 63% of men are single by choice under 30 going I got my girlfriend right here I got my everything right here uh I got my

Emanuelgambling I got my weed I got my alcohol why do I need to go out and procreate and it's crazy because we got a 1.6% birth rate right now I'm doing my job got our third on the way right now and so we're trying to keep the Earth

Emanuelpopulated but it legitimately is a scary thing of this world could go extinct so that's why when we look at the married men watching porn we're going you got to handle these problems we can't be having more divorces we can't have more single men saying I want to stay single I want

Emanuelto stay with you is you know I want you guys to make money and be able to survive and do all those things I don't I don't have a problem with that but I think the bigger thing is looking at it in a much much bigger light and that was Beck and I we just said if this could save one marriage if it could prevent one sa from happening if it could

Emanuelprevent one's self-d deletion from happening then it' all be worth it so big rant big ramble big all that stuff but coming back to a way way bigger point of just that whole concept of if it could save one life if it could save

Emanuelone marriage if it could prevent one saay from happening I mean literally thinking of that girl thinking of that boy you know because people go down these rabbit holes and they're watching porn and they're turned on and then all

Emanuelof a sudden they see something scary and these neurons that are firing together now wiring together and they see a woman get hit and they're like why do I have a boner right now after watching that woman get slapped and there's a crazy stat 20.7% of straight men men if you

Emanuelgay porn in the last 6 months and so you look at that and I talk to these men all the time and they're like I watch this I watch this I'm like I don't even know what this stuff is and they're like it's like Andy in the office like am I gay

Jadeand I'm like dud no your brain has been reason for that though so um I also went to school for psychology and one of the things that we studied was porn porn addiction or corn addiction and things

Jadelike that and so people who become addicted to Corn uh vanilla sex then becomes boring to them so they go and they go deeper and deeper and deeper to a point where well now the only way that

JadeI can view sex is on my phone and it's BDSM things like that and now they go to their wife and they're like hey um I I'm I'm not performing correctly or like what's going on it it it becomes such a

Beccadeeper problem yeah I remember you were saying that earlier just it's such a pervasive idea that like it's the partner's fault like like I some way

Beccawasn't um sexually pleasing enough for Manny that he had to go to this other source um but I wasn't designed for that you know like I'm not a gang bang I'm

Beccanot gonna meet I'm not gonna meet that need but like people need new and novel like when someone starts out what do they do like most the average age that someone starts watching porn now is 8

Beccayears old and you know at first it's hey I'm want I'm looking at a Playboy photo or I'm looking at a Victoria Secret magazine oo I'm sneaking up from my parents great for a little bit that's exciting then it's not then you need a

Beccalot more photos then you need videos then you need a lot Wild or crazier videos to the point where it's just like of course this is causing sexual dysfunction for people in their

Beccarelationships because it's meeting a need it's not a need meeting a desire that one person alone cannot ever satisfied because this is how we were

Beccadesigned to be one one oneon-one and when you're able to just control it it's yeah it's very different experiences wait so to go

Brian Atlasback uh Madison can you grab that Nick just keep it off that angle is she okay yeah she's good um she's slipping me off wait okay going back to the disagreement

Brian Atlasstuff if anybody uh disagrees with anything that they've heard from the podcast maybe you've seen Clips you had one thing anybody else want to open it

Brian Atlasup where you at with the marriage topic yeah oh gosh uh well I mean uh from a religious perspective marriage makes sense join

Brian Atlasus oh person yeah there you go 's not up for the gang bang she's not up for it idealistically

Brian Atlasm marriage is cool I guess uh from a religious perspective I think it's great but there's just certain realities uh when it comes to marriage because you

Brian Atlasknow at any at any point in your relationship let's say let's say both people are religious uh at any point in the marriage for example as a man man the

Brian Atlasthe risks the point of view from a man your wife could just randomly choose she reserves the

Brian Atlasright at any point to sorry the the thing is becoming undone again um she reserve your wife reserves the right at any point to become a feminist and go to

Brian Atlasthe state for recourse in her divorce where she can get alimony and uh sign a prup you know prenups are regularly my understanding I mean I'm going to have some family and divorce lawyers on the

Brian Atlasshow eventually but my understanding with prenups is it applies for it can apply for everything earned prior to the marriage I believe but once you're married it's becomes Collective property so whatever

Brian Atlasyou make during the course of the marriage could be subject to you know uh you know community property she gets 50% of whatever it was that you may during that then there's alimony Etc and then

Brian Atlasfrequently uh prenups frequently get challenged um recently here in Santa Barbara we had oh who's that actor Nick could you Google the actor

Brian Atlasfamous actor his name is evading me right now it was a a dispute here in Santa Barbara because they were married Kev Kevin cner thank you um very wealthy

Brian Atlasactor and they had a prenuptual agreement and it was a very favorable to the wife the agreement she would get certain amount of money but there was a clause in the prenup that says you will

Brian Atlasnot if you challenge the prenup in court you will not receive certain benefits that would have otherwise been awarded to you under the prenup she went ahead and challenged the prenup anyways despite the fact that the prenups had

Brian Atlassomething like I'll give you I don't know the exact numbers but she would get uh an immediate upon divorce an immediate 200k 300K a month well she got

Brian Atlas200k in what child support 200,00 immediate she would get an immediate $200,000 payment I thought it was more doesn't seem that monthly I don't know what I don't know in any case there she

Brian Atlaswould get an immediate very large sum and she'd get some child support in alimony she challenged It Anyways then you're talking about lawyers fees I think the husband might have to pay the anyways um can I jump in on what you're

Emanuelsaying though because I think it's really interesting can high value men even get married like women are like I want a high value man I want the high value and the 12-in penis and things like that all right you know we were

Emanueljoking earlier I don't know if you're here or not but anyway um the whole idea though of like can they even get married cuz one of the beautiful things with Beck and I is when we met we were literally sleeping on a dead man's bed

Emanueland we didn't kill the guy but what happened was our family ran assisted living homes and my dad's like I got a bed for you and it's like great and then I'm like years later I'm like where did we get that bed from he's like well somebody passed you know we had an open bed I'm like what so we're literally

Emanuelsleeping on a dead man bed when we first get married but then we got to grow with each other and that's a beautiful thing and so sometimes when women say well I'll just marry the high value man when I'm 35 and he's 45 well why does he need

Andreayou um why does he want you what are you bringing to the table how are you iron sharpening iron so that's why I feel like it's important for a woman to still work and like if I got married I would sign the prenup so my husband you know

Andreawouldn't have that lingering thought in his head like okay well what if she doesn't want to be with me but she doesn't have anything so she's not going to say anything and just you know use me so I feel like it's important for a woman to still have her own you know

Andreamotion going on her own stream of income and the man has his own thing going on too because if you don't want to be with him you can leave and you won't feel stuck and trapped and then hate your life like you know I I I feel like I

Andreacould never like just be taken care of and not do anything like I'd have to have some kind of business going on or he's not looking for money from you he's OB if he's high value making all this

Emanuelmoney driving the Lambos um so in that regard he's looking for something that maybe he didn't have those first 20 years when he's building his Empire so he's looking for someone to help build that family so then it's kind of what value are you bringing to the table at

Emanuelthat point he doesn't need the 100 Grand 200 Grand even a million if he's making 10 let's say I don't know he's ke cost value shouldn't be based money though I feel like if you're going to get married you shouldn't have to question your

Beccapartner like oh I'm going to get a penum like that wouldn't even cross my mind you're planning for it fail no if you you have a it's like I feel it's like

Jadewhen this fails yes I honestly I don't think so I know when I get married I'm also going to to sign a prenup um not necessarily because I'm wanting something to fail I don't think that my marriage is going to fail

JadeI'm religious I wouldn't get married to you if I thought it was going to get failed in the first place however there are things like Affairs where if or if something were to occur where I could get an analment through my own church then yeah I would go go ahead and get a

Jadedivorce or something but when you're married you're you're supposed to stay with them through thick I'm sorry I'm not going to stay with a cheater though you know what I'm saying forgiveness no I'm not going to stay with a cheater something that if God is out of your life especially if God leaves our

Brian Atlasrelationship I do not want to be with I do want to I do want to ask those who are perhaps more Pro marriage and again look from a religious perspective I don't object to it and also I just want to make something clear I think you can

Brian Atlasobject to the institution of marriage but also be in favor of a long-term committed monogamous like you could raise children have a nuclear family

Brian Atlaswithout involving the government without getting married and so I guess my it's a two-part question can you Pro present to me those of you who perhaps are more in

Brian Atlasfavor of marriage uh compelling and convincing arguments why I or other men should get married and assuming that these men are otherwise open to

Brian Atlashaving a nuclear family say they're open to having a not just open but desirous of having a monogamous long-term life partner um as a yeah yeah I think when

Emanuelwe have these iPhones that we can look at I don't know if I'm allow to say that word but when you have an iPhone phone you can look at corn all day shouldn't we all just be walking around like oh my goodness I can see any naked person at any time at anything and people are

Emanueldepressed people are walking around not feeling good suicide rates self delation rates are high sorry it was on the list um and so we have to look at that why does somebody want to get married love connection and intimacy and it's beautiful because it's a great

Emanuelenvironment for me to raise my children in I get to have children um gosh when you have those kids and just getting to it's something that once you do you know you get that full experience but you know it's a better environment for them

Emanuelum it is better for me to be married because it's way harder to step out on this relationship because we are absolutely committed to each other till death but let me okay so but again all I

Brian AtlasI think you mentioned love you can have monogamy you can have all these things outside of marriage and you you mention well it's great for the kids but but you're worried about they're going to walk on you well it got

Brian Atlasa little hard the sex isn't as good I saw it on only f right so but we we have a massive divorce industry so this idea that marriage forever keeps people in relationships is fallacious because

Emanuelclearly people are getting divorced even deeply religious people so let me bring up an interesting topic for you then so uh with arranged marriages they have a 4 to 6% roughly divorce rate and we got 40

Emanuelto 50% divorce rate and some people say I worship the god of science lowercase G and they say if it's in if it's in a scientific thing then I'm going to worship it and I about it but then when you come to something like this then they go uh well you know I feel like I

Brian Atlascan choose my and emotions just right over but what percentage of marriages do you think will in 2024 are are uh coming from a ranged uh that are arranged I think it's

EmanuelI think one of the big things is they don't know each other they're working on that relationship they're saying we're not going anywhere we're going to be in this thing for the Long Haul versus just we'll try it if it doesn't work we'll get the divorce and we got you know 90

Becca7% of alimony payments are made by men to women so if I am the feminist and I can jump out but he was saying how many how many marriages are arranged probably very few I assume it's

Brian Atlasvery few I feel like DWI I feel like a billion people in India would say oh well sure but I I'm I'm I'm looking more at it from the like the US perspective or even the Western perspective where I think you know marriage is someone

Brian Atlassomething that's typically more voluntarily entered into as opposed to uh a rign now we can certainly have a conversation of should we bring back should we have arranged marriages

Brian Atlasperhaps it works uh but I I think that that's unlikely to be a realistic implementation anytime in the near future anyways um so look again my my

Brian Atlasconcern is is just I just don't see a compelling argument for it when I can have I can have the family I could be monogamous

Lily Phillipswithout having the state involved in my uh Rel commitment and also it's it's so much more commitment is it yeah my well my parents always taught me that like

Brian Atlasonce you're in a marriage you're in it not getting divorce but but you you're you're removing agency from the individual it's basically there's there's the state's gun pointed at you in one way or another saying well if you

Brian Atlasdivorce if you guys get divorced then there will be Financial ruin and I I think that's a terrible reason to stay in a relationship well there will be Financial repercussions if you don't how about just build a really solid

Jaderelationship with somebody well the whole point of getting married in the first place is that you're going to die with that person so it's not really this it shouldn't be the state pointing a gun at you being like okay one day you guys are when you guys decide to get divorce we're going to come in there and Jack

Jadeeverything no that's not if if if you can even picture not being with your life at spending your life with somebody at any point in your life don't be with them the whole point of getting married in the first place is to say I don't

TTS Readercare about your flaws I don't care what you do that like happens grid one Motorsport $100 apprciate watch a lot of

TTS Readermarriages fail over the years you are either in it to win it or you stand ready to pull the rip cord and bail women sue for divorce 80% of the time men are not the problem ladies because

Jadenobody's viewing marriage as people used to view it I mean if you think of it now nowadays when did the divorce rate spike it was back in the 70s what was in the

Jade60s what was in the 50s what was in the 30s the 40s the 20s well people feminism and the birth control pill exactly no exactly I'm I'm not disagreeing whatsoever I honestly do believe women

Beccacan kind of be the problem I think it's just the view of marriage it's like it's been destroyed as like oh the ball and

Beccachain negative perception Brian like you it's like you don't have faith that having a marriage is can be this absolutely beautiful thing to be committed to someone I feel like you can

Brian Atlashave that without the marriage yeah that's kind of my position is like I'm not like this this guy who just wants to sleep with a bunch of women throughout all my years and never have long-term

Brian Atlasrelationship or never have children like I can certainly absolutely see myself having a partner and us having kids and it being monogamous and faithful and us

Brian Atlasstaying together for the rest of our lives I'm just I'm not sold on the marriage component of it because it's like well what if it doesn't work you know you know what I mean you know what

Lily PhillipsI mean everything's connected and your tax everything's connected I think you know your go and like you should just always stick by that person and work together any problems you have okay but so what what you know when you get

Brian Atlasmarried what what are the vows that you have to say till death do us part in sickness and in health and good and what is it in good and in bad you know those words have to mean something but clearly

Brian Atlasthose words mean nothing to like a vast swaths of people who ultimately end up getting divorced despite them saying that in front of their friends and family I think there's a couple problems first off on the social level there's no

Brian Atlasthere's no longer really a stigma to getting divorced so like on a societal and certainly I don't think we're going to do anything full spotties we're not going to do anything to like legis I don't think there's going to be any

Brian Atlaslegislation really to like revamp anything and so we've that's an error I think and then we we have no social pressure there's no social stigma to being divorced your community doesn't give a your family doesn't care

Brian Atlasyour friends don't care you're not going to face a stigma if you're a Catholic for example there's a there's still I think to some degree stigma there like within your subculture but even then people are are getting divorced so

Brian Atlasthere's no laws that are kind of incentivizing people to stay together there you know we have no fault divorce okay and then then there's no social stigma

Brian Atlasso it's cuz it's been normalized so well and also the moment if the man's The Breadwinner in the relationship this is why this is sort of a gendered issue because why men are hesitant to get

TTS Readermarried let this one come in from G One Motorsports thank lesbian relationships fail an order of magnitude more than gay marriages ladies you are the problem due

TTS Readerto feminism feminism has failed you the patriarchy stands ready to rest Glory let's go the patriarchy the way Glory grid One

Brian AtlasMotorsports is kind of like the head of the patriarchy he is like the head honcho of the patriarchy so just letting you guys know but um I I'm trying to remember what I was saying uh some the

Emanuelno societal stigma we're not going to no fault divorce I for where was I totally forgot one of the reasons why to get married um when I got married to Becca it's it's like oh my goodness I got to start making some money here and magically once we get married it's like

EmanuelI need to start making more money and then she says I'm pregnant and I'm like we can't afford a kid and magically I find a way to make $50,000 more that year and it literally comes down to what Dwight said in the office use your surge of fear and adrenaline to sharpen your

Emanueldecision-making skills and when you get that uh being told you we're pregnant we're having a baby she's having a baby um yeah you better believe it makes you more money so people who are married make more money not that you need to

Emanuelmake more money Brian you're just fine but that whole concept and then just when I wear this ring to the gym this is like woman repellent and just keeps me is it

Brian Atlasthough I've actually heard I've heard some like I don't know if it was a study or like just anecdotes from Married M married men it's a challeng they'll like get hit on by women and you you I've

Brian Atlasalso heard from men like when they're single chicks just be ignoring them but all of a sudden they get a girlfriend is that you they just get like hit on and so George Panza I I think certainly good

Brian Atlaswomen are probably going to be like see the ring and be like okay off limits but I think some girl are crazy I have heard from some married men that they're like yo girls are see the ring they're hitting on me and I girls see a

Brian Atlasring and they get wet honestly I don't know but it could be I could see it you know all right good times good times she's like take off again it com back down to I'm not worried about him

Emanuelthough so I know that's how should be it comes back down to that person one of the big things we teach um is that when you go to porn you're trying to heal a pain that's going on inside whether that

Emanuelwas being made fun of bullet some trauma um and after a while your brain stress reactivity systems they break down and anytime you're hungry angry lonely tired bored stressed anything you just go to

Emanuelthis Vice and coming back to that when I was overcoming porn it was the process of going from being a boy who runs away from his problems and runs to porn and then becoming a man who stands up to his problem says I'm going to face this

Emanuelthing head on so a woman hits at me in the gym and I say be gone you know you know hello hello but be gone you know she doesn't see that then I'm walking the other way and just in all things in life you know one of the big things our

Emanuelthing is called team vulnerable because you need a team of people around you but talking to them and saying what's really going on when I was early on in the process if I got horny it's like it's there's no reason for me to be horny what's really going on is it a trauma I

Emanuelhaven't dealt with is it halt BS hungry angry lonely Tire board stressed but boys becoming men that's really the process that has nothing to do with porn it has nothing to do with only fans it's about standing up having that moment of strength and vulnerability and handling

Lily Phillipswhat's going on inside did you get the bottom of why you're wanking so much hold no no no hold on let's stay on topic um wanking who here wants to get

Brian Atlasmarried no no okay all right I mean just to wrap up a little bit on on the marriage topic I from my perspective

Brian Atlasright as a businessman I don't sign contracts that don't benefit you never sign a contract with someone who is rewarded for breaking it

Brian Atlasmarriage is a contract and no sane informed man ought to sign that contract it's a terrible like if you were to look at it from a

TTS Readerhold on Doc venil is donated $100 grixsen here is what you do you want people that disagree with you bring for couples to her show convince you

Brian Atlasabout marriage and put you in her place include me and Becca you will be a groom by end of show thank you doc the nais look again I'm in favor I'm not like

Brian Atlastrying to like promote uh you know just casual sex I'm not saying that I think the nuclear family is fantastic for the individual fantastic for the

Brian Atlasfamily and it's the most Optimum for society uh and I think you can have the nuclear family without marriage um there's just certain realities

TTS ReaderGort donated $100 married 18 years to a woman 11 years my junior retired at 45 never been divorced no kids out of wedlock not only

Brian Atlasam I the dogs bollocks I am the patriarchy oh he is he is the patriarchy hey grid one thank you man appreciate it never been divorced there you go grid one he's living the dream grid one is

Brian Atlasliving the dream when it comes to prenuptial agreements though I think it's not going to save you if the woman is motivated enough um she could I mean she could even lie she could say there was coer or fraudulent

Brian Atlasinducement the other problem why why do you think it's a bad deal for you why do I marriage yeah well okay so you have three thing or well there's a couple things there there's a whole bunch

Brian Atlascommunity so when you're married and I'm not an expert in this topic but I'm G to I've consulted with divorce attorneys and I've done my own research so once you get married you have community

Brian Atlasproperty so once the marriage starts everything that you like from that point moving forward that's shared okay yeah so in the event of a divorce uh if

Brian Atlasyou're a man and you're making but what if the girl is Mak him more then she may very well be hesitant to enter into marriage herself or she

Brian Atlasmay want to have a prenuptual agreement um there is some bias in the court system against men but women who are high earners uh absolutely have perhaps

Brian Atlasreason to pause on uh marriage with someone who earns less than them because there is a chance that half the is going to them uh

Brian Atlasso there's that there's also just the financial cost of a divorce now I'm not 100% certain if it's the case in the divorce if the for example if you're the

Brian Atlasbread winner and your woman uh excuse me if your wife is your woman is uh she's like uh didn't really participate economically or financially oh your

Brian Atlashusband because the can be a bread winner sure sure but I'm just from the male perspective um I'm think you not only would have to pay your attorney

Brian Atlasyou'd have to pay for her attorney attorneys typically charge $200 to $300 an hour divorces are typically not cheap they drag on for years uh anything

Brian Atlasrelated to uh litigation or the uh court system is rather not just financially taxing but is uh rather just mentally draining and mentally distracting um

Brian Atlaswhereas you could have perhaps a more clean split if you weren't tied in a marriage so there's that there's alimony of course and then uh so kind of unrelated because you could have children outside of wedlock there's of

Brian Atlascourse child support but that's not really related to marriage because you can have children outside of wedlock and child support can come into the picture whether you're married or not so there's alimony there's the legal cost and then there's the uh the community property

Brian Atlascomponent of it where you could be giving her essentially half of everything you've earned during the course of the marriage well you could get half of everything she's earned right but

Brian Atlaslike for one for one I'm I'm doing all right for myself so I I probably out earn 99% of women and then um women don't marry with guys that make less

Brian Atlasthan them that's that's a very good point and then also I'm not really from the man side of that frankly I'm not really I don't really care about uh a woman's money I'd prefer she's not in

Brian Atlasdebt and perhaps she has she can take off take care of herself but she doesn't need to be a boss babe she doesn't need to be grinding working 70 hours a week I'm not really

Brian Atlaspreoccupied with her her money if look if she's a fantastic person and she happens to be very successful but also still has uh maintained uh the the thing

Brian Atlaswith work and there is a certain Cutthroat this that you need to develop especially if you're a an entrepreneur or you're

Brian Atlasself-employed you do develop certain you need to doing business can sometimes be uh you're dealing with certain

Brian Atlaspersonalities and like you have to like deal with the political of the core world if you're in like a corporate job and I think it you do tend to develop

Brian Atlasperhaps more masculine traits as a woman if you're very heavily not always but you can start developing a bit more of a you know you may get a little bit more in your masculine which some men might find less attractive uh so I don't

Brian Atlasreally but ultimately I don't really care about uh a woman's money now on the flip side if I'm like she's a billionaire ays it doesn't hurt I'm not

Brian Atlassaying no to that I'm not saying no but you'll get married tomorrow look if she the ring let me put it to cuz some some guys are like it's not it's not uh if a

Brian Atlaswoman makes her own money or even if she's a high earner that's it's not necessarily an issue unless it's somehow like

Brian Atlasher hyperfocus on her career inter has an impact on the relationship in some conceivable way and I think often times it can and does but on its own just because she makes a

Brian Atlaslot of money or has a successful career on its own isn't necessarily an issue but it doesn't make her more attractive the same way that for example a man who's an attorney or a doctor or high

Jadestatus or whatever will certainly make himself more attractive to a woman doesn't make a woman more attractive I'd say it depends on the woman um I don't think a successful woman cares cuz I'm going to be honest

Jadeyou can come up to me tell me you're a doctor you're an attorney I don't really care really yeah question for you do you question for you um are you're currently when you're in a situationship what does

Brian Atlashe do um we met at work so he's also working you're in the same okay okay no I I don't care about let me just address that so do you want uh how many kids do you

Jadewant uh two three whatever I don't really do you want to be working while you're pregnant yes however I I've put myself into a situation where I'm I'm I'm good for a while

Jadeso okay so you're financially good I'm good it's like 10 years from now and he's starting his career or he wants me to pay for his medical school to I so that I can get to the point where I can stay at home yeah that's fine I don't really care if you come to me and you

Brian Atlastell me you work when you have kids do you want to maybe take a little breather from work or you're when I have a child I'm not going to be working at all so for 18 years you're not going to work yeah or longer hold on I'll that9

TTS Readerdonated $100 we need more women like and less trash like only fans garage like three times did she wow okay she's good grief

Lily Phillipshere what wait three times so she's wasted $300 9999 you care too much you sound like a fan thank you B Grace

Brian Atlassubscribe we have uh the West dude I just want to read this since it's before it disappears yo the West dude thank you man appreciate it how do you show through actions not words that you are not just using the you go on dates with

Brian Atlasas an ATM or foodie date uh I do want to address your point here let me write that down do any of the girls want to answer this from the West how do you show through actions not

Andreawords that you are not just using the men you go on dates with that they're maybe like being is directed at somebody them a reassurance hey I like you we don't have

Andreato go on dates all the time and spend money on me like like you guys said you know like handwritten letters like for Valentine's Day like a nice conversation like what we want with each other you know like that you know that's what and

Brian Atlasalso I I sleep with every guy that I go on a date with so like you know you know you oh we'll get we're going to get into it by the way guys we we gonna assuming you know they don't get cold feet we

Brian Atlashave a hater who's going to call in a we have a female hater who's going to call in um and then I have notes everybody here hate hate hate hate hate uh we I

Brian Atlashave notes here from everybody got some juicy notes from all the panelists at the table we're going to get into that so um the West dude thank you for the your chat uh I there was a study West

Brian Atlasdude where I I I think it was from like AR Arizona State un who maybe where a professor there did a study and found

Brian Atlasthat like it was like 33 or 66% Nick are you looking it up of women have engaged in foodie calls which is basic basically the where they get a

Lily Phillipsfree dinner where they go on a dinner without like any sort of that's way too much effort just for a free dinner I would agree with you I don't know what would be talk to a random for at

Brian Atlasthat point oh wait Nick what's the story of the woman in New York City the Asian woman who did like who went on six dates a week and never paid for groceries can

Lily Phillipsyou pull that one yeah I don't I don't have that much like thank you West dude for bringing that up you got it anything Nick so do the foodie call study and

Brian Atlasthen do the uh what's it what is it the the the the there's a New York Post article from that girl who yeah never bought groceries for two years because

Brian Atlasshe went on yeah she hustle for sure God let me read these chats Grace Chong we need more young women to be Natalie and

Unknownless of garbage like Grace like three times yo Grace uh thank you appreciate it Grace is this your homie Natalie she's I say she's very supportive she's

Brian Atlasthe CFO of war room so what's war room is Yo Grace Trump we should have her on the show Grace you want Grace lives in California so you should have her on if

Lily Phillipsyou like paid your friend to comment on it no I'd love to meet you and then you should have Grace on wow she she tripled

Brian Atlasdown Grace thank you Grace appreciate more young women like Natalie wow okay she she was so uh so so she she sent it three times thank you guys wait

TTS Readerthat's a find better things to spend your money on could have just B it we got hat a [Applause]

Brian Atlashatrick she she ate Grace CH with the hattick for NAD should toally thought she ate you said she's in in California yeah yeah let's do it let's do it Grace uh

Brian Atlassend us a DM on Instagram at whatever I will donate saying we need more young women to three you got to do it three times four times perfect cool thank you Grace appreciate it thank you for the

Brian Atlassupport Grace you're awesome uh Nick do you have anything pulled up uh foodie call nearly a third of women have gone on dates just for free food survey fines call I truthfully as like I just the

Brian Atlasdoing the math in terms of the time investment do any sense doesn't make sense maybe like I could see the angle of I look I've known women and women have come on the show who say they've

Lily Phillipsdone this maybe you guys have just but I can no sorry no offense like if I'm on a 2hour date like I could make a lot more money in two hours than I would for like

Brian Atlasa 30 quid lunch word for real I don't know some of these dudes be spending way too money on dinner dates though like1 $200 on a first date dinner date Nick do you have the other

Brian Atlasthing I went on six dates a week and didn't have to buy groc groceries for 2 years now this is life/ dating on easy

Brian Atlasmode uh she went on dates without any real romantic interest in the men and just got free food I wonder if she'd like or order extra she

Lily Phillipsso she'd like take yeah left can I get for she would she had that like down to a well then you've got to be like meshing

Hazelthese guys arranging it like it's lot of admin a lot of admin a lot of work to get she was probably lonely also I don't think she'll just get ready just for dinner I feel like dinner dates are so

Unknownboring and overplayed too like they're not very creative let's go W's in the chat for nadle she doesn't like dinner dates I hate seed oils and most restaurants cook with seed oils that's why I don't like restaurant you don't

Natalie Winterslike seed oils I hate seed oils can you do you have like an allergic allergy thing they're industrially refined oil so it's like canola oil oil grape seed oil also rape seed oil please don't ruin all restaurants for everyone yeah know I

Natalie Wintersknow it's a real Downer but safe or we about in and out all the fast chains are except sweet green about two months ago announced that they were switching to olive oil for most of their

Natalie Wintersdressings and and food olive oil is dat at Sweet green is also very low energy um but I don't know I feel like doing things is actually what's your like perfect date my perfect date I love

Natalie Winterswalking which is the world's most loveing but then it's I mean at least you get like a good chat in but I don't know about hikes though I guess you

Brian Atlasthey're little Mur yeah just like a sort of public a public walk goodat a yeah a have you done Taio first date I

Natalie Wintersdon't know what that is it's maybe that's in the '90s thing I don't know it's like this workout and there's kicking and don't you just feel like it's worc though when you're like sitting there across from it can be I

Brian Atlasdon't about picnic the thing with the dinner date the thing with the dinner date is if it's first off there's constant interruptions with the waiter coming and it's like and then if you're trying to

Brian Atlaseat I don't know about you I don't like to talk when I'm eating so you got like and then they're they they go ahead like you're on a dinner date right and they ask you a question that'll take you 5 minutes to answer or maybe maybe that's

Natalie Wintersexcessive 3 minutes and all the while your food's getting cold ex it's a weird dance of every I'm trying to eat my food sorry go no no trying to ask the other person questions about themselves because everyone knows you're not just supposed to talk about

Natalie Wintersyourself but then no one really wants to talk about themselves because they don't want to come off as narcissistic so it's just like Ping Pong questions about this is not even my necessarily personal experience like I really haven't gone on that many first dates with people I've

Natalie Wintersrandomly met but just for my my friends it just doesn't seem and then you can never leave like then you have to or if you don't want to go home with them then it's really awkward like it's just it creates more trouble than it's

Brian Atlasworth I'd rather just go well I certainly don't think I mean if the guy treats you to dinner that certainly doesn't mean that he's uh entitled entitled to anything else and if a guy

Natalie Wintersis like that's weird if a guy's like pushy in that sort of way but I think like meeting for a a coffee is a bit more like a coffee or drink drink alcohol so that makes it also hard cuz I

Andreafeel like meeting a bar is a lot just more casual but then it's like I'm going to go to a bar and like drink that's what it seems like like no no no going to like a bar date you know

Brian Atlaslike that's just like oh I would hate that cuz it's like love IIT love it so much sketch you could do like an upscale Lounge where it's not like a bar where

Brian Atlasit's super loud but like an upscale Lounge typically like not like a dive bar yeah you could get you could get like you know like a soda or you know juice or something or just go to like

Brian Atlascoffee but I'm with you I I don't think dinner dates maybe like a second or third day but wait okay so we were getting into it about marriage oh you okay you said you don't really I

Brian Atlasremember you said well if a guy was an attorney or a doctor or whatever that wouldn't really matter all that much um but you said you also like when you get married and have kids you want to stop working once you have kids right yeah so

Jadesomething that I'm attracted to when it comes to men is um them wanting to grow whether that's grow their business um go grow up in a company something like that however you don't have to be at the top to everybody come talk to me I'm

Jadeattracted to drive that's what I'm attracted to um and then from there let's say we get married in 3 years and then fourth year I have a kid but he's not making enough money for me to be able to support him for him to be able

Jadeto support me at home I do have enough stock to where I would be able to support him continuing to go work work and then me staying at

Brian Atlashome you wait so you have enough saved to support your whole family like your whole family and then two to three kids

Jadefor 18 years maybe not not working I think she was saying subsidized to be able to stay at home he's making money I still have enough money and to where I'm able to support his income and then my

Brian Atlasincome combined be able to beat them where where do you live again Las Vegas you're in Las Vegas okay well I mean you and I forgot exactly what you said but did you say you wouldn't care if he was

Brian Atlaslike a high earner no I wouldn't but I mean if you want to if you want to stay at home then you're going to have to have a guy who's capable of providing however you don't have to come to me already at

Jadethe top you can come to me at the bottom and I'm willing to you just want an ambitious man yes exactly gos yeah I like them I honestly would rather go for the ambitious guy than someone who

Brian Atlasalready built up yeah it's not clear to me if Hot take here if women actually like purely ambitious men I think women

Brian Atlasare attracted to men who have reaped the rewards of said ambition but if you're if he's ambitious and like not where he like he's works at McDonald's but he's

Brian Atlasambitious I don't know if you're still going to take the bet on that guy I did I will I'm not saying all women I'm not saying all women I think and it occurs to me that some women would rather wait

Lily Phillipsat the Finish Line pick the men who have already crossed the Finish Line pick the Winners instead of the the May well I I do mind what the guy does as long as like they have goals and they are ambitious and very what if he's a

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