Gorlock The Destroyer! RAGEQUIT KEEKO vs. CHASE! Round 2! FIGHT! | Dating Talk #69
Date: 2023-04-26
Duration: 5h 36m
Guests
Brian AtlasIdentified Speakers
SPEAKER_00TTS/Donations(audience)
SPEAKER_02Chase (clip audio)(guest)
SPEAKER_03Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_04Samuel(guest)
SPEAKER_05Ali(guest)
SPEAKER_06Ally (Gorlock)(guest)
SPEAKER_07Deborah(guest)
SPEAKER_08Kiko (clip audio)(guest)
SPEAKER_09Kiko(guest)
SPEAKER_10Billy Ray(guest)
SPEAKER_11Madison(guest)
SPEAKER_12Chase(guest)
Key Moments
01:17:20
IntroAlly introduces herself as 'certified bad bitch' full-time as her occupation.
“I'm Ally better known for alzy I'm 23 years old from Arizona and I'm your certified bad bitch”
01:49:59
QuoteChase outlines his wife requirements: unvaccinated, conservative, traditionally feminine, Christian, willing to submit, ideally virgin.
“She's got to love the Lord um she's got to be unvaccinated she has to be politically conservative... traditionally feminine”
03:17:24
QuoteKiko is the only panelist willing to openly state her body count (12: 7 men, 5 women). Other guests decline.
“I have no no shame of sleeping with seven men and five different women in my 23 years of life”
04:22:00
OtherKiko threatens to leave by midnight (boyfriend upset if not home). Brian jokes about needing to get her to walk off again.
“I'm about to walk out my boyfriend's very upset if I'm not home by midnight”
04:28:00
ControversyReplay of the original viral clip from a prior episode: Chase says sleeping with a trans woman is homosexual; Kiko reacts and exits. Clip got 30M+ views on Twitter/Instagram/YouTube/Worldstar.
“Chase how dare you be transphobic Yes actually... Shut the fuck up cuz I have an opinion that differs from yours”
04:29:30
Key MomentPost-clip reunion: Brian asks Kiko and Chase to respond to each other. Kiko clarifies she left because she was an hour late for work, not purely emotional. Objects to Chase stating biological opinion as fact on a large platform.
“I wish I wouldn't have had to leave I had to leave cuz I had made multiple comments beforehand I was super late for work”
04:36:30
ControversyChase and Kiko debate whether sleeping with a trans woman is gay. Chase maintains it is a biological fact. Kiko disagrees. Ally (now revealed as trans) weighs in.
“I stated biological facts and you have a problem with me stating biological facts... for a man to have sex with a transwoman he would be having sex with a biological male which is homosexual”
04:48:00
QuoteAlly explains she recognizes 'chasers' (men who fetishize trans women for their genitals) as being gay, agreeing in part with Chase's framing in that specific case.
“there's categories to this shit... if a guy literally was just harassing me because he knew I had a penis sorry bro you're fucking gay”
04:50:00
QuoteKiko emotional statement about impact of Chase's comments on large platform and the high trans suicide rate.
“the suicide rate in the trans community is already so high and this podcast has so many views and you guys get up on here and just shit on them”
05:20:30
QuoteAlly closing statement about representing her trans community respectfully and being more than just her trans identity.
“honestly I was extremely worried on walking into a podcast like this... I'm glad that we're still able to bring these topics to the table”
05:23:20
AgreementChase and Brian apologize for laughing during Ally's serious points. Chase salutes Ally for bravery in coming on the show.
“I want to salute you for having the bravery to come on this podcast... I want to apologize because it was disrespectful”
05:29:50
ControversyAlly reveals she is a trans woman mid-discussion about plastic surgery in the trans community.
“I'm a plus-sized transwoman living in Arizona... wait you're trans yes I'm trans”
Topics Discussed
00:00:00
Guest introductions and relationship statuses
Brian introduces the panel. Each guest states name, age, occupation, relationship status, and longest relationship. Talking stage vs. exclusivity vs. official dating debated.
00:20:00
Submission and feminine/masculine relationship dynamics
Discussion of female submission, masculine leadership in relationships, and the 'talking stage' as a modern phenomenon. Kiko, Deborah, Billy Ray, and Ali discuss.
00:48:00
Physical turn-ons and turn-offs
Panel goes around stating physical turn-ons (fitness, masculine energy) and turn-offs (tattoos, excessive makeup, plastic surgery). Debate over fake boobs/BBLs, sternum tattoos, snake tattoos.
01:17:00
Plastic surgery and body positivity
Fat acceptance movement, plus-sized confidence, plastic surgery motivations (self vs. male validation vs. female competition). Ally discloses trans identity mid-discussion.
01:43:20
Self-ratings (physical attractiveness 1-10)
Panel rates themselves physically. Debate over how the 1-10 scale works. Ally: 10; Deborah: 8.8; Madison: 7; Billy Ray: 6.7; Sam: 5-6/10 (face ~7). Chase: not rated.
02:12:00
Leonardo DiCaprio age gap debate
Discussion of Leo DiCaprio exclusively dating women 18-25. Kiko critical of men over 40 dating women under 21 as a pattern. Chase and Sam offer counterarguments about male biological drives.
02:30:00
Women's dating advantages vs. men's struggles
Debate over whether women have 'easy mode' in dating. Billy Ray shares messages from 100K+ male followers unable to get dates; attributes to feminism eroding male confidence. Chase argues men must build their value.
03:15:00
Body count discussion and first-date disclosure
Panel body counts shared (Kiko: 12, Sam: 20-25, Chase: 7, Ally: private). Debate over whether asking body count on first date is appropriate. Billy Ray and Deborah decline to share publicly.
03:47:00
Marriage, divorce rates, and Christian vows
Chase and Brian debate the value of marriage given ~50% divorce rates. Chase argues public vows create honor/accountability. Brian skeptical of societal stigma against divorce remaining.
04:26:00
Viral clip replay: Kiko vs. Chase Round 1
Brian plays the viral clip from a prior episode where Chase said sleeping with a trans woman is gay and Kiko walked off. Panel reacts. Kiko clarifies she left for work (late), not purely emotional.
04:30:00
Trans rights, identity, and sexuality debate
Extended debate on whether sleeping with a trans woman is homosexual, trans identity as biological vs. chosen, gender-affirming care for minors, and trans representation. Ally (now known as trans) participates directly. Chase and Sam argue biological facts; Kiko and Ally argue against reducing trans people to biology.
04:51:00
Transgender ideology in schools and children
Debate over age-appropriateness of trans education in schools, puberty blockers (reversibility disputed), parental consent, and government overreach. Deborah argues parents must retain authority; Kiko argues teachers shouldn't be shamed for supportive responses.
Transcript
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03:50:12
Chasebelieve under God's eyes marriage I would counter that by saying marriage is two people coming together making vows to one another that they take very and not all people take these vows seriously
03:50:24
Chasemost marriages end in divorce I'm pretty sure so you shouldn't be bringing kids into this world without it not all that's why I'm saying a a lot of people a lot of people don't take those vows seriously but people who do actually take those vows seriously like it is
03:50:37
Brian Atlastill death do us part and like I'm going to be there for you no matter what happens and there is a lot of value in that how many but how many people say even to in romantic relationships I will
03:50:48
Brian Atlaslove you forever I want to be with you forever one year later I don't I hate this person I can't stand you I need to get away people say things for example
03:50:57
Brian Atlasyou said a vow how often are vows broken I mean we we see in divorce you said and I agree with you marriage ought to be
03:51:07
Brian Atlastill death do us part I agree with you if I were to marry a woman it has to be till death do us part words have to have meaning if I say till death do us part I
03:51:18
Chasemean that [ __ ] and I want the woman to mean it too part me nothing nowadays go ahead yes yes and and you're right about that and part of the value in marriage
03:51:29
Chasehistorically has been having a ceremony in front of all of your friends and families and loved ones where both of you guys are making this commitment and there is an there's an element of Honor that comes into it where you're saying I
03:51:42
Chasepromise to take care of you and be with you for the rest of my life and you're making that promise in front of everybody that you know right and so there's accountability there and there's accountability for both people because
03:51:54
Chaseyou're making that promise in front of your spouse's entire friends and family and they know you know if you if you cheat on on her or you screw up in the relationship you're accountable not just to the person that you're marrying but
03:52:05
Chaseto all of the people in your family and hers that you made those promises in front of right that that this is something like this is this has been something that's been really interesting for me to observe as a wedding photographer because I I'll shoot
03:52:18
Chaseweddings where people will do these tiny little ceremonies at like the courthouse here in Santa Barbara and it's just them in front of an efficient and then they get married and that's it right it's a totally different vibe in comparison to
03:52:30
Chaselike watching your wife W your future wife walk down the aisle with her father and him passing her off to you and trusting his daughter to you and then the handshake that happens between you
03:52:42
Chaseand your wife's father and him looking you in the eyes and hugging you even asking for the hand in marriage part even even the asking for the hand in marriage part asking for the father's blessing like there's so much honor and trust that goes into all of it and that
03:52:55
Chasethat is something that is like it's so valuable because if you just tell a person yeah I love you and I want to be with you forever and that's one-on-one that doesn't mean squat but if you say that in front of everybody that you know and love and they can all hold you
03:53:08
Kikoaccountable to it there's a lot of value in that man and there's deep shame and dishonor in Breaking that like my body counts 12 you guys look at me as a scallywag and I'm telling you right now if I Get Married the only way it's ending a divorce if is he's physically
03:53:21
Kikoharming me or something that's the only way I would okay a divorce I would if once I'm married I say those vows I'm we're going to figure it out here Chase let me just respond to what you said so if we have kids especially we're
03:53:31
Brian Atlasfiguring it out everything that you just said sounds beautiful sounds great all that stuff happens you said the father walks her down the aisle she's in the
03:53:41
Brian Atlasdress there's the handshake or whatever you said cool that's great all that stuff happens and yet what do we have a 50% divorce rate you said there's shame
03:53:54
Brian Atlasyou said there's stigma there is no longer a societal shame for people that get divorced in fact a girl need just go to one of her girlfriends and just say hm
03:54:06
Brian AtlasI'm having it's kind of we're having some disagreements the girlfriend's going to be like divorce them I don't know any she's going to go to a therapist divorce
03:54:14
Brian Atlashim unless they because most therapists are steeped in feminism they're they're B you ra you ra an important Point let
03:54:25
Brian Atlasme just finish really quick so all that stuff you said all the all the things first off the the social stigma in the US in most Western
03:54:36
Brian Atlascountries non-existent there's I mean unless you're in like very your your whole circle in a religious environment thank you divorce is very proud I was RA Christianity is not an antidote to
03:54:49
Brian Atlasdivorce I don't know a sing I was raised a Catholic I don't know a single divor that because how many Christians and Catholics get divorced looked we looked up the stats the stats on the last show could one
03:55:01
Chaseperson div hold on we looked up the stats on the last show there were contradictor stats people sent me more stuff after the fact the majority of this is the thing man this is why our society must return to God when people
03:55:14
Chaseare are they actually take their faith seriously and they regularly attend church and they're actually serious about their faith in God like the statistics that we pulled up before these are these are people who aren't actually serious about their faith in God when you have people who are
03:55:27
Chaseactually serious about their faith in God and they're making that commitment before God and they know that they will be held accountable to it before their creator like that is a big deal man and and and when you factor those things in
03:55:39
Chasethe divorce rates yes the divorce rates are much lower somebody sent me stats about this in my Instagram yesterday wrote a book about this and divorce in the Christian church when you have people that actually take their faith
03:55:48
Kikoseriously I'm it's very low it's not very low very very low it's not very low yes it is just based off like numbers like if we can't I can't even name a single couple from my school of 400 kids
03:56:00
Brian Atlasthat was divorced at my Catholic school I think you're part of the problem if your view is that pessimistic I'm not part of the problem I I totally understand I totally understand let me just make I'll let you
03:56:12
Brian Atlascome in I just want to make a couple points here Chase hypergamy does not care about a woman's godliness or her piety that that yes it doesn't matter
03:56:23
Brian Atlashypergamy still exists as an aspect of human nature but there are women out there with principles bro there are women out there with principles who actually women in the US I guess what I
03:56:35
Brian Atlaswant to eventually get to is that you women are incentivized to basically there's a there's such a major
03:56:44
Brian AtlasFinancial incentive for women to get divorced at as soon as there's even a hint of unhappiness and look as a man you should never sign a contract with
03:56:56
Brian Atlassomeone who is rewarded for breaking it no sane informed man would or should sign that contract as a businessman it
03:57:06
Kikois one of the worst contracts you could possibly sign in your entire life if you're marrying a true feminine woman though if you're if you're marrying a true feminine woman who's in touch with everything in motherhood she would do
03:57:18
Kikoeverything in her possible being to make sure that she could keep her family together for her kids a a true woman who's has the right values the right head on her shoulders you will be able to tell that is not there's no incentive
03:57:30
Kikoto divorce when I think of divorce cuz I'm going to have kids by that point right I'm I plan to have kids very soon after marriage the worst thing in my mind would have to make my kids go between homes that's the last thing I want I also wouldn't want them to be
03:57:41
Kikoraised in a toxic household where we don't love each other but that that's not an incentive if if you're someone if you're marrying someone who like thinks that divorce is a positive outcome for
03:57:52
Kikothem you really really miss the mark on who you're marrying and you missed a lot of red flags throughout that dating process maybe you were too worried about not say any person is a joke it's mostly a joke maybe you were too worried about her height and her body count and other
03:58:05
Brian Atlasthings instead of her morals and morality because she wouldn't do those things there's no there's there's no sensible woman divorce is not some outlier occurrence that rarely happens
03:58:16
Deborahlike I said the divorce rate is 50% maybe to you but how Chase I would every two women stays in the relationship and doesn't give up but I have a solution for you something you would really like Judaism the woman can't ask for a
03:58:27
Deborahdivorce the guy has to give the get to allow them to divorce and if he divorces her it's a contract that only the guy can give the get youm theate in the Jewish Community I don't know off the top of my head but there are people who get divorced
03:58:41
Deborahthere's people who rush into marriages and get divorced but we have so pressure to stay married societ should have with Judaism are you talking like are you Orthodox Jew yes okay but there's a lot of uh a lot of Jews are secular and then
03:58:54
Deborahthere's uh if you have a Jewish wedding you sign and get no matter what it's the legal contract and this is I totally agree with you keeping the government out of marriage so let's say let's say you're Muslim let's say you're Catholic
03:59:06
Brian Atlaslet's say you're Christian let's say you're Jewish do you know what the solution is you can uh I don't know what the term is you can be uh apostate you can leave your faith then you can get
03:59:17
Deborahout get out I mean Christians and Catholics can get out of their marriages but you basically just so you could just with Judaism we believe that you can never leave Judaism if you're a Jew you can convert to another religion you're
03:59:29
Brian Atlasalways a Jew it's an ethnicity but as an indiv sure Outsiders can say well you you're always this
03:59:36
Brian Atlasreligion however as an individual like there's no law that is forcing you to to stay in the marriage so I mean you say there's a get you say it's a contract it's a contract that if the man leaves
03:59:50
Deborahit says in the contract you sign at your at the altar under the contracts are broken all the time if you break the contract the man is responsible the man has to be able to okay if a woman wants to divorce a man in the Jewish Community she cannot get remarried and a rabbi
04:00:02
Deborahwill not remarry her if she does not have the get previous relationship because religion is a whole another topic that's what I agree with you though I think you would your problem might be that the government is so heavily involved in marriage and that's a big thing where I separate that especially when it comes to like gay
04:00:15
Deborahmarriage and things of that sort to marriage me if my Rabbi marries me in the eyes of Hashem and under God's like eyes we are married it doesn't matter what the government says we're married and you can become an apostate and then
04:00:26
Chaseget out of your marriage we can't convert out of Judaism so so so let let ask let's ask a productive clarifying question here let's ask a productive clarifying question so as a woman with
04:00:37
Chasereligious convictions who it sounds like you will never get divorced at least you have that God willing I really hope not that sounds hard my nightmare by your own choice by your own choice will you can you confidently
04:00:48
Deborahsay you will never get divorced after getting married I mean as long as cheat or be you or anything like that yeah if nothing goes wrong in the marriage I think there's always hard times in marriages I would absolutely stay committed I'm a very loyal person but I
04:01:01
Deborahthink it's also like you plan and God laughs in that sense of like I have this dream of what I would like I would love to be like my grandparents married for 70 years since you're young committed beautiful children Generations but it
04:01:13
Chasealso is a messed up world and I am a realist in that sense and I know that things come in but if it was just like I don't like him anymore no I wouldn't divorce him okay okay so like everybody has a dream about how their marriage is going to go everybody wants to live
04:01:25
Chasehappily ever after and like have just the best marriage all time yeah 100% and a lot a lot of people fall on hard times right like let's imagine you know you said that you like strong masculine men and you want a man who is strong enough
04:01:37
Chaseto actually lead you let's say you marry a man and and you guys fall in hard times like I don't know maybe he gets paralyzed maybe some terrible accident happens and his nuts get chopped off and like all of a sudden his body has stopped producing testosterone and he
04:01:51
Chasestops being like the vital strong man that he was when you married him and you guys fall in tough times like in a situation like that would you would you stay with him let's say those those hard times you know that they're going to last for years well according to her
04:02:02
Deborahshe's she literally cannot no you can you can say I want a divorce but your husband has to give you the contract that says you're officially divorced cuz otherwise you can't get remarried oh so you can just continue nagging him and being a pain in his ass until he does
04:02:15
DeborahGrant well there's a lot of problems sounds like a great Rel there's a lot of problems in the community where the communities will help shun guys who don't give GS to people because it's abusive so
04:02:26
Deborahon marriage is not between just two individuals and God there's also import marriage the basis of marriage is to have children and Society I want an answer to my question I want an answer to my question in a
04:02:38
Chasesituation like that where you guys fall in hard times and he stops being the man that you married you made this commitment before God would you sck to it his like him potentially to get divorced out of the equation let's say it's all in your
04:02:50
Deborahwould you s with it I think the biggest factor in that moment everyone would want I think everyone would want to be like yes of course but I think the biggest Factor would be if we had children or not I want babies and lots of them that is extremely important to
04:03:02
Deborahme to procreate and be a mother and if I was no longer able if this guy was no longer to able to make me a mother that is a goal that is my biggest goal in life so I would go pursue that goal and I don't think
04:03:14
Deborahbecause certain things happen that you should give up your biggest goal in life to pass on your genetics you're saying if if if that dream of becoming a mother became compromised after marrying this guy you would consider a divorce yes
04:03:25
Deborahbecause being a mother is like the one day God willing not right now but like that is I feel like why I was put on this Earth to leave my mark to make it a better place but also to raise children raise them to be good members of society
04:03:36
Chaseteach them the ways of the world and if I wasn't able to do that I would probably that's reasonable that's a reasonable dream to have but you're kind of proving Brian's point which is like it's it's till death do us part as long
04:03:48
Deborahas things go the way that I really want them to go well if a freak accident happens and somebody's half their body gets chopped off those are things that that aren't General and I think you have
04:03:56
Brian Atlasto treat it when it happens do death do us part in sickness and in health yes there's certain
04:04:05
Brian Atlaslike kind of right now would be God it would be God's will if you married a man and he was in some catastrophic accident
04:04:15
Deborahwhere he can no longer have children it is God's will that you do not have children I think this is the same thing like trying to justify abortion with certain things where it just these are
04:04:26
Deborahsuch extreme 1% of 1% that like this isn't the average guy is not getting his his balls chopped off and a freak helicopter crashing into him I'm sorry it doesn't happen divorcing is more
04:04:38
Chaselikely so I think if you gave me like a general situation but what if what if what if you married a guy and like there wasn't some freak accident like that and he just happened to be infertile that happens to oh that that's that's more real would probably cover that he was
04:04:51
Deborahfertile or not before you get married right you want kids I think a guy would know if he was fertile or not before getting married I don't know how guys know if they're disruptors we've got polyesters
04:05:02
Chasewe've got all sorts of things that are compromising we've got all sorts of things that are compromising fertility in both the Sexes and it's like you know he might be fertile before you marry him but then like who knows something could happen he might develop a condition or
04:05:14
Chasesomething within a few years of you guys marrying if his ability to procreate with you gets compromised but there's no freak accident involved like is it still a deal breaker I think these are such one-off cases that it's hard to like give such a strong yes because like these are such freak random things God
04:05:28
Brian Atlasforbid that well INF male infertility is randomly hoing overnight no but but here's the thing you say well let's assume he was just infertile the entire
04:05:39
Brian Atlastime I mean you weren't he never tried to have a kid with another one woman he didn't have he didn't try to have kids with you before marriage so it's I don't
04:05:50
Brian Atlasknow what the infertility rate is amongst men but it's not so much of an outlier as some like catastrophic accident happening so so well so here's here's here's an
04:06:01
Chaseinteresting way to flip the situation what if you guys got married and God forbid hypothetically you found out that you were infertile and he wanted to divorce you how would you feel about that so that would be really sad but at the same time like those aren't
04:06:15
Deborahthat's not just something that you just find out like I'm as a woman I would know if I lost my period if I you go through changes and you would know that's not something where like you wake up you're like oh guess today's not you have your period not be fertile yeah
04:06:29
Brian Atlastrue aren't there a lot of women who still have their struggle having children I feel and and also some woms aren't meant to carry she feels F I feel I don't know but honestly the
04:06:42
Deborahproblem with fertility and all that stuff is tough cuz I don't support IVF or things of that nature but I do just without flipping it to the positive side I hope everybody is able to have the kids they want and I hope nobody has to deal with the struggles of infertility
04:06:54
Deborahbecause it's very very difficult so hopefully God blesses us all with abundance thank you am I agree I think we kind of got into the we let's move on move on okay it's real negative yeah let's move on to uh and hopefully these
04:07:07
ChaseThese are valuable I just want to say I know it is negative but these are valuable hard questions to ask because look in in my I I disagree with your take because I take that vow before God extremely seriously right and like if my
04:07:19
Chasewife became bald or if she became fat or like you know those are not fertility some freak accident happened to her she became infertile or whatever it's like I'm still for me personally I'm still making a vow before God that like I have
04:07:32
Deborahto honor and like I just wish more of our society was like on board with that because if we were we wouldn't have such high divorce rates you know I'm not saying I'm against that I'm just saying it's such a unique situation I really just hope I don't run into that honestly
04:07:45
Brian AtlasI'll think about it when I get there in fatness and in health right what do they say what do they say in the UFC protect yourself at all times gentlemen yes do not get married do not cohabitate that's all I have to say black you'll be a lot
04:07:59
Kikohappier if you find a nice woman to marry and have children with see well women have an incentive to say that because what what incentive do I have you did prove what incent do I have to stretch my whole belly out ruin my whole figure why it's a bad contract well
04:08:11
Deborahwe're talking about marriage not kids I said I side conversation go ahead I I was just saying I I don't think I proved his point because I'm not saying oh I found something out yeah I dip in a second never think about it twice I'm
04:08:21
Deborahsaying it's a very sad tough situation and I think it's not a black and white thing where it happens on daily no not divorce I'm saying a fre accident happened and you're for me fertility is the biggest thing procreating if that
04:08:33
Brian Atlaswas no longer an option that is a very unique situation rather than like if he cheats on me or if I just don't like him that much those are different situations but here here's here's my concern a little bit about what you said and I think Chase is sort of echoing me on
04:08:45
Brian Atlasthis you seem like you have your head on your shoulders pretty well you're an intelligent woman you're an attractive woman you uh I it sounds like you're a
04:08:54
Brian AtlasPious woman hell yeah Brian no I'm not I'm not but and and yet though you don't have this Gung honess
04:09:04
Brian Atlaswhen it comes to marriage that I would expect from someone who is Godly and who is pious and so that almost reinforces
04:09:14
Brian Atlasmy position that marriage is a risky proposition for men what do you mean by gung-ho like like it is till death do us part in sickness death do us part but
04:09:25
Deborahyou're like well you know you guys gave me the well you're like well what if a helicopter drops out of the earth and cuts his body in half if you just asked me if I would stay committed to my man for the rest of my life absolutely
04:09:36
Deborah1,000% in the afterlife same but you guys threw out like what if he gets hit by a truck and then his arm is stuck to his ear the rest of his life and then he can only touch you like this like that's
04:09:48
Deborahkind of true the most whack situation ever give me a normal situation and like but also it is a risk and I do think that like marriage within my community is very different I have a lot of friends that got married young and I've
04:09:59
Deborahseen a few people divorce which is like really sad but I am against like the no fa divorce I think that you should do every single thing thing that you can in your power especially in your if you have kids to keep that family unit
04:10:12
Deborahtogether because the nuclear family is the basis of this country and I think the decline in the nuclear family is responsible for the majority of issues that we see whether it's men it's women and it leads us to this question who's more to blame for the downfall of society men or women so let me I I just
04:10:25
Brian Atlaspulled up a stat here on male infertility so apparently male infertility affects approximately 7% of all men so that's that's a decent chunk
04:10:36
Brian Atlasof men and then but in humans it accounts for uh 40 to 50% of infertility uh and something like 15% of couples struggle when it comes to uh conceiving
04:10:48
Chaseor so and to to to push it even beyond the infertility Point yes I mean it was a it was a crazy scenario that proposing however like you know you clearly articulated that your dream is to have
04:11:00
Chasekids and become a mother which is an honorable and worthy dream to have I salute that I wish more women had that uh with that in mind like it doesn't have to just be a helicopter chopping
04:11:11
Chaseoff his balls like okay Point BL to answer your question he could hold on he could also like you know you guys could get married and in a couple years he could develop cancer or something like that and it could be the kind of diagnosis where like he's sick but he's
04:11:22
Chasegoing to be sick with it for a long time might compromise his ability to provide a bit you know especially provide for the family that you want to build with him like that that kind of stuff can happen you know do you stick around that's a better example and in that
04:11:34
Deborahexample it's an easy absolutely yes in sickness in health that's exactly what that's how I feel about it that I would be kind of like um I don't know what the best way to describe it like I would be grateful to be able to support somebody
04:11:46
DeborahI love that much in sickness like if somebody even my friends when they're sick I really enjoy helping them making them food things of that sort so to be there for your spouse your partner your other half you become one flesh when you
04:11:58
Deborahget married absolutely and if in that situation cancer we've had I have a lot of family friends we've had dealt with cancer it's very horrible F cancer but if you can no longer have kids okay then maybe it's my plan to adopt and give
04:12:11
Deborahsome child who was given up by their parents the best life that they've ever had and could ever have absolutely I would do that and that's why I was just like you guys the example you're giving me is so freaking random like if nothing's wrong with him except he lost
04:12:23
Brian Atlashalf his body I don't know you know sorry okay um so all I know should move on yeah we're g to move on let me do let me try to get a couple super chats and
04:12:34
Brian Atlasactually you know uh yeah I should get these super chats really quick um to the you need a shot I need my VAP did we do this
04:12:46
Chaseone uh we just got one Ivan junor $100 um single for many years Ian junor thanks for the hundred bucks bro single for many years six bed house five cars
04:12:56
Chasefour businesses retired model mid-30s not very picky spent thousands on dinners I get judged so fast I don't have a chance once they see what I have they want my luxury car and they're not
04:13:08
Chasefocused on natural connection Brian Chase Bingo yo hey we should get them on the show I you should absolutely come on the show bro I just want to say dude for the for the guys out there who have money like
04:13:19
Chaseone of the most interesting experiments that guys in your position could do is like buy like an old beat up pickup truck post your images on your Instagram and social media not with your luxury
04:13:31
Chasecars not with your nice house but with your old beat up pickup truck right cuz chicks are going to vet you this is this is my thought on this chicks are going to vet you they're going to if if they if they see that you have money you know that's going to uh conf
04:13:44
Chasethe women that are interested in you you're not going to know if they're interested in you for your money or your personality but if you're flexing your your shitty old pickup truck and none of your uh wealth you know then you'll know who the real ones are you know what I'm saying that's my thought on that word
04:13:56
Kikobased really quick Eric can you pull up twitch TT your problem is you're spending time writing out all your personality traits and best qualities on a podcast like this any man who's doing that is not going to find a high valume
04:14:08
Kikowoman I'm telling you right now it's weird it's quite weird are you are you talking [ __ ] on [ __ ] on the Chatters yes to list every single one of your best qualities on a podcast he's just saying it makes it hard to find
04:14:19
Kikowomen bece to him I know but the way the how long the list went on Mo if like in my example like if he would have been like I'm a pretty well-off man and I struggle finding someone because they that's all they look at but somebody who
04:14:32
Kikofeels the need to list every single one six bedroom household five cars this and that you're overcompensating for something you that that's he's trying what what it seems like to me is that's what he shoving in everybody's face so of course if that's what you're shoving
04:14:45
Kikoin everybody's face that's the woman you're going to attract is the woman who only wants to use you for your materialistic items and that's all you need it that's all you can talk about and you may have a point because if you
04:14:55
Chaselook at his profile picture right there it is uh he's a retired model it is him retired at 30 seducing based on the flesh right and so he perhaps he is
04:15:06
Chasetaking that approach and like bus model yes you may have a point however he he is touching on an important aspect which is that wealthy men it's it is I I know a number of wealthy men it's hard for
04:15:18
Ally (Gorlock)them to find women who actually want them for who they are then don't lead with your wealth I agree party fou go ahead I was going to say not only that but like nine times out of 10 like if I see a guy trying to flex some [ __ ] in
04:15:30
Ally (Gorlock)front of me I'm automatically going to assume okay you're broke because a guy with money isn't going to be out here flexing what it is they have because they know they got it like that why do they feel they need to flex it if anything they know it's smarter to not
04:15:42
KikoFlex it exactly it's one thing you when you have money it's another when you make hon I know you got money but you're not out here flexing every single dollar you have every second you're here wearing a normal flannel and a black T-shirt so honestly I would rather be with i' would rather that than somebody
04:15:55
Samuelwho feels the need to be like no I have this I have that I make this much I own this many estates this many cars I agree witho he's compensating for something he's like look at all this money that I have but I think also can you pull the
04:16:07
Madisonchat up again Brian I think also he is sorry what what were you going to say really quick just like flexing your cars and your money and all this and making like wealthier personality you're kind
04:16:17
Chaseof setting that standard for a woman to yeah I think any any wealthy guy who's got all the things he's got needs to avoid showing any of it off for long as humanly Poss 100% like you're
04:16:31
Kikospending thousands on dinners you there's no reason why you need to be spending $1,000 on a first date or dinners like that that's the woman you're attracting you're attracting a sugar baby I that's your problem right there spent thousands on I don't know if
04:16:43
Chaseyou're spending a [ __ ] ton of money on the dinners that you're taking them on bro I'll tell you this Ian I'll tell you this I took I I was in Paris uh with I studied photography when I was in college I I went with my school to Paris
04:16:55
Chasefor Fashion Week back in like 2015 I met this gorgeous model after uh one of the fashion shows and I asked her if she wanted to go on a date she said that she had to go to Pino the next day I said well next time you're out in
04:17:07
ChaseCalifornia let's get together so she came out to California like six months later right and the about these model girls you know how it is man they get attention from so many dudes they've got all the football players sliding into
04:17:18
Chasetheir DMs I took her out on a date to Chipotle hell yeah to see what her response would be and I'd never do this with chicks but on that date I made her pay for her own Chipotle just to see how
04:17:31
Chaseshe would react just to see how she would react she she rolled with it g she rolled with it and she was so cool about it and it was a fantastic date and I was like yo this is a solid woman that's the kind of move you got to play with these
04:17:44
Chasechicks bro you can't be dropping hundreds on dinners taking them out to the nicest steak dinners no dinners zero tell men to split the bill 50/50 no I'm not I'm not telling dudes to split the bill that to the men out don't tell men
04:17:57
Chaseto make their women pay for Chipotle yeah I'm not I'm not telling dudes I'm not telling dudes to take their girls out to Chipotle and to make them pay for the dinner but what I will say is it is an excellent vetting technique technically I paid for my first dat i
04:18:09
Samuelyour problem is that you're leading you're leading with your wealth you're lead with what you think is the most attractive thing which is your money and if you're leading with that you're going to get used for that my friend I do have
04:18:20
Chasea downplayed car my point is I'm successful and I just want a stay-at-home wife without her needing to work I think he's he might be saying here he has all these things yet he's still struggling my point is though no
04:18:33
Kikomatter what even if he's just commenting that to say what he has going on he wouldn't lead he wouldn't ever leave a comment like that on a podcast with this many viewers and this many subscribers
04:18:43
Kikomaybe but maybe that's an inacurate Judgment of him oh sure but still he his last comment I have five cars I have this and then now his next one oh I have a downplayed c like don't get confus like no I think I think the point that
04:18:55
Chasehe's getting at is it's hard to find women who aren't who are not motivated by wealth and who actually want to be stay and my point is that that's that's the one that you're that's the one you're seeking out I would have no
04:19:06
Kikoproblem with someone who we could if if we lived happily and I could stay at home with our kids a lot of women would be fine with that it's the woman you attract is my whole point he's attracting those Miami BBL sugar baby
04:19:17
Brian Atlasused to be maybe a stripper with all the money type of girls I think you should bring a girl to McDonald's and she should pay for you like what I'm confused like bring a bring a chick to McDonald's and be like get get to the
04:19:30
Brian Atlasregister like order a [ __ ] ton of food whatever she's going to get like a 4Count nuggets or whatever and you're be like look you just look at her and you're like you got this right well that's not I I kind of mentioned if you don't if you heard me said before I
04:19:43
Kikowould never pay for a first date but like technically with my current boyfriend I technically paid for our first date wow technically not on he didn't he was upset by it but we were at Starbucks I get points I think it just
04:19:56
Samuelcomes down to the energy like I think women want to feel secure like they want a guy that's going to be a guy if they're a feminine woman doesn't they don't give a [ __ ] if you have a ton of money they just want to know that they're going to be taken care of and
04:20:08
Samuelthat they can have the kind of lifestyle that they want which is pretty basic like I think honestly there are very few women that are looking for that are gold diggers truly you you have this it's
04:20:20
Samuelthey will find you you have to be doing something for gold diggers to be attracted to you and it's not just being wealthy not to say that they're not out there yeah they're still there but if you're leading with that as your only thing then you're going to get that's
04:20:32
Samuelnot attractive to me that attrative to a gold digger yeah it's like if you want to find like someone that's funny like be funny if you want to find someone that's going to be like compassionate and genuine be genuine don't lead with
04:20:43
Samuelsomeone that's going to use you for the stuff that you think they want Madison did you uh did you pay for your boyfriend on your first date not on her
04:20:54
Brian Atlasfirst date but I wouldn't mind do you s for your boyfriend yeah do you s for your boyfriend Ally yeah what what do
04:21:02
Madisonyou what do you guys do do s how do i s like I don't I don't mind like paying for his things like I don't not like a deal
04:21:14
Brian AtlasVapes he doesn't he doesn't okay good he's he's still a Chad okay um he's still a Legend um does your boyfriend
04:21:21
Brian AtlasVape is he a vape god um M he smokes um no huh no no no Are You The Vape God in the relationship God is I guess okay all
04:21:33
Brian Atlasright I don't know where I'm these cringe questions okay um let's twitch really quick then our last thing to react to then we're going to wrap yo uh Lei thank you for the 300 bit um Marx 84
04:21:45
Brian Atlasthank for the prime Vis thank for the prime if you're feeling adventurous thank you for the raid man appreciate it uh 13 Rebel thank you for the prime Misfit thank you for
04:21:57
Brian Atlasthe follow epic East thing for the follow guys twitch.tv whatever mods if you can spam in the Chann in the chat a little bit the link go to twitch.tv whatever drop us a follow if you can
04:22:08
Samuelthank you guys really appreciate all the support that's cool thank you for the follow appreciate the man the man I got to go soon I want to say something I have to be back by midnight he want going back storm out I just want to ask
04:22:19
Samuelevery be home before midnight I want to ask all the girls question okay time permitting is this is it is it true you know that you guys want a werewolf to take you in the middle of the night back
04:22:30
Samuelto his layer ravage you within an inch of your life and then leave you so that you can be alone and think about if he loves you or not is this a vampire diary script this
04:22:42
Ally (Gorlock)like kind of like a Twilight question no no no you're not into that you I was like
04:22:52
Ally (Gorlock)13 13-year-old fantasy yeah like I got my Twilight fantasy out of me like I was like 8th grade and it's over all right all right just ask did that go the way you thought it would not at all not at
04:23:03
Kikoall honestly I thought that they were going to be like pills the term 304 please I really wish nothing but the worst upon you you guys what is this it just means hoe and you guys overuse it so much it's not just supposed to be hoe
04:23:15
Kikoit's supposed to be a prostitute out walking the street you should recla that's like code like yeah there's no
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Kikoreason yeah know no idea what a 304 even is Callen just say ho it's not 304 say Hella 304s out here 304 is a prostitute
04:23:35
Chase304 is a prostitute like actually selling their coochie on the street yeah you can say it's for money but there's hella 30 fo
04:23:43
Deborah8 are you doing like you s stupid like 81 we're still going to keep saying it stupid you know that were you not singing kiss me through the phone by
04:23:55
KikoSoldier Boy no [Laughter] he Kiko 304 it's fine but like I feel like you guys are using this word I don't know where it's coming
04:24:06
Chasefrom are you are you mad that spaming 304 everybody's using 304 I'm so mad I'm so mad everyone keeps using 304 in chat yeah spam 304 to make Kiko even mad we need to get her to walk off again before
04:24:18
Brian Atlasthe end of the show I'm about to walk out my boyfriend's very upset if I'm not home by midnight spam Christ is Lord
04:24:24
Brian Atlasspam 304 okay um so we have here's the last thing that we are going to react to
04:24:34
Brian AtlasEric you guys had a viral moment you and Kiko Chase and Kiko had a very viral moment back no you're welcome I made you I was back in November I have I don't do
04:24:46
Brian Atlasthis content [ __ ] only you do so TR made each other okay um how about I made you both how about that we made you actually if we went into that you that
04:24:57
Brian Atlaswould be very quiet Brian it's a symbiotic relationship okay um start cutting the checks foro and yeah he needs us more than we need him
04:25:07
Brian Atlasright I guess you guys are coming for the royalties now okay um so we're going to react to the clip that went insanely viral millions of views Twitter something like 30 million I think
04:25:19
KikoTwitter Instagram YouTube PornHub even that got on there somehow world star got on World Star World Star see that one Ben Shapiro we got on a lot of places Ben chir now honestly it's really annoying he just keeps clipping my photo
04:25:31
Kikointo all of his thumbnails and it's not even me like I'm not even in the video he's a member of the tribe okay sorry but it's really weird to like you like it would be my face in the thumbnail and I'm not even in the video like I'm no was it it's just your I would go to war
04:25:44
Deborahfor benjiro in a heartbeat nothing to Judaism but I love that man I love that man he's brilliant he's our in bench P We Trust I we ride I prer Michel here's the thing if we useo in the thumbnails
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Deborahwe're going to get clicks and if we get clicks then we're going to get content get a bucket and a mo my followers were s do you ever bet up be a red [ __ ] on his
04:26:07
Kikopodcast like get a bucket and a mop that's a wet pee it was really cringy who bench was need to hear more benity doesn't care Ben was until he used my photo and then people were sending it to
04:26:18
Chasemeest I have no idea who this F Beno you don't want to know you don't need to know it might be for the Ben Shapiro first went viral for like denying transsexuality on a podcast or like a video or something and then the the
04:26:32
Chasetrans person that was he was sitting next to like I think it was like a former Navy SEAL like like don't you say that one more time young man and he was like well that's like mildly violent or something like what did he say he said he was like
04:26:45
Samuelan ambulance yeah he said he was like don't say that again or I'm going to send you're going to be going home on an ambulance and he was like well that was smilly violent for a debate yeah okay uh we're react we're going to react to the clip Eric if you can kindly pull it up
04:26:57
Brian Atlasfor us good sir Eric could you please pull up the clip pull up Jamie someone said small hat it's called a keepa guys called hold on before you before you press play just
04:27:09
ChaseI ask everyone pay attention just be quiet so the we can hear it come through go ahead Chase would you rather smash the hottest trans woman in the world or the oldest woman in the world honestly bro old the oldest woman in the world
04:27:22
Chase (clip audio)cuz then I wouldn't be gay what you really just want me to just rip you a [ __ ] are you like Chase how dare you
04:27:33
Chasebe transphobic Yes actually what the [ __ ] do you mean yes that was if I had sex with a trans woman I'd be having sex with a biological man and I don't want to do that the question is that's not what you said though that's fine be gay
04:27:46
Kikoif I had sexual biological that's not gay and I don't even care if you're doing this for like whatever but like shut the [ __ ] up actually like why don't why don't you make me
04:27:57
Kiko (clip audio)Shut the [ __ ] up cuz I have an opinion that differs from yours quit I mean that's really hateful not she's not it would technically be
04:28:08
Unknownhomosexual a trans woman is a biological man Eric switch it to oh actually sorry go keep going sorry s it's not [ __ ] up it's real it's true okay if you guys want to respect gender identities that's
04:28:19
Kiko (clip audio)his though that's his sexuality any opinions you want I'm not allowed to say that I'm not allowed to say that yes from a biological woman who doesn't even have any trans friends that was too
04:28:30
Kiko (clip audio)[ __ ] far a man of God who doesn't judge a Christian yeah you know you know what God said it said he made the man and women he made the man and woman I just told you I'm not okay I'll pass on that thanks
04:28:46
Chase (clip audio)though who knew that stating biological facts would make people walk off the show okay it's the reunion what do you guys have to say to each other you want to go first you want me to go first is there anything you would have done differently in that scenario I wish I
04:28:58
Kikowouldn't have had to leave I had to leave cuz I had made multiple comments beforehand I was super late for work no I had said that multiple times let's not stop the C that's people even in the show had come and said that she did say multiple times that she had to leave for work I was an hour late to work I was
04:29:12
Kikosupposed to leave by 10:30 and the show went on way longer than it was supposed to so it seemed like a good moment to exit I wish I would have been able to stay there longer but no I I did not feel comfortable having a conversation like that with no trans people present
04:29:24
Kikoat the table you can have your personal opinion if you don't want to sleep with a transwoman that's your prerogative that's fine but don't declare your opinion as fact if you think that if a man chooses to sleep with a transwoman
04:29:35
Kikois gay go so be it that's your opinion I have no problem with you having your own opinion but you saying Cal comments like that on a podcast with this many subscribers and viewers hinders men who
04:29:46
Kikodo who are straight cuz they do exist who choose to sleep with transom and if for you being some Godly Christian man I think you should learn how to keep your [ __ ] mouth shut sometimes when it comes to those topics because it's very hateful and hurtful just like how you've
04:29:59
Kikobeen giggling and sitting here across the table this whole time if you were such a godly man who's turned his whole life around for God you should learn for a little bit more acceptance and tolerance when it comes to these platforms honestly truthfully if you
04:30:12
Kikowant to say that [ __ ] behind closed doors with your other little red pill friends go ahead and do so but just learn and recognize the platform you have and how much influence you have there's already enough trans haate and
04:30:23
Kikocrime out there you don't need to influence it more was my point Thank you there's many things I could say in response to that then say it let me ask
04:30:33
Kikoyou this is God tolerant I think God made us all in his light he didn't make any mistakes right so if he created trans people than he did it for a reason did he create trans
04:30:45
Ally (Gorlock)people or do trans people choose to be trans go ahead I feel like you're better off on this one I would rather you respond okay I was raised Catholic so
04:30:55
Ally (Gorlock)and then I converted to Christianity in Middle School in the Bible it's mainly said God does not give you more than what you can handle she asked me earlier
04:31:07
Chasewhen did you know this [ __ ] was not a [ __ ] choice for me I can look you in the eye right now and say this was not a choice so you didn't choose to go on hormones you don't you
04:31:19
Chasedon't you don't you didn't choose you didn't choose to put no no no she said her piece and I'm going to ask a couple questions so that she can clarify she didn't finish her I'm going to I will let her finish but I'm going to ask a couple questions so she can clarify my
04:31:31
Chasequestions are you didn't choose to go on hormones you don't choose to dress this way you don't choose to identify as a woman you don't choose to wear a weave you don't choose to put on makeup and present yourself as a woman so it's the
04:31:42
Ally (Gorlock)same way for you though it's like me asking you like oh did you choose to wear that shirt today because to you it's natural right it's 100% natural did you choose to get a fade of course because you know it looks go you that's
04:31:54
Ally (Gorlock)you like that's you know everything that you choose to do everyday hygiene to that's your normal to me this is my normal I didn't choose it if I think like oh like you know what like I like
04:32:05
Ally (Gorlock)these hair extensions because they look good and because it's feminine my energy is feminine I hope I'm saying that okay but still like it's it's it to me that these choices it's not like I went it's not
04:32:19
Ally (Gorlock)like I went out of my way and be like you know what I'm going to wake up today and I'm going to be a [ __ ] [ __ ] I'm going to do this I'm going to present female yeah technically it's technically speak you went out of your way to do
04:32:29
Ally (Gorlock)those things technically I was already doing them I was already doing them from the very beginning why did I stop doing it because of what other people think okay so I'm going to go back to the
04:32:41
Chaseoriginal question question you said it's my job as a Christian godly man to be tolerant because that's what Christians are supposed to do my original question is is God tolerant I think it's your job to mind your business no my question to
04:32:53
Chaseyou is is God tolerant you projected all of these God is tolerant okay so uh in in Genesis yes I will I I will educate you on exactly what the word of God says
04:33:04
Chasein Genesis it says that when God created mankind he made them male and female and in Leviticus it says for a male to have sexual relations with another man as he
04:33:16
Kikowould with a woman that is an abomination in God's eyes and is worthy of being put to death how many times has the Bible been translated how many times has the Bible been translated correct can you let me respond if you're going to make a statement to me before you bring someone else into it so I don't
04:33:29
Deborahforget what I'm going to say I I want to hear what you have to say but this is correct is it not the I don't know what the words are I don't know what Leviticus would be in Hebrew cuz like that's how I learned everything in Hebrew but I the biggest thing that we
04:33:42
Kikohar on Judaism is a man should not lie in bed with another man and then we take that to me do you guys know that that scripture was changed so many times though we have let me finish my statement before you start talking let me finish my statement before you start talking let me finish my statement
04:33:54
Kikobefore you interrupt me thank you you're making falsehoods but go on I feel like you should let her finish than so the Bible has been translated obviously that's not a falsehood it was not written in English was it no do you know
04:34:05
Kikodo you know um Latin it wasn't written in Latin okay whatever was WR aric oh yes okay it was been my whole point is in Hebrew [ __ ] let me finish you're trying to educate me on the Bible but you don't have the most basic fact
04:34:17
Kiko[ __ ] after let me most basic fact me finish you keep interrupting me you get so mad when someone interrupts you I'm not mad at all go on you're just stating falsehoods and presenting yourself as wrinkles are giving you
04:34:28
Kikoaway continue to add brought them back down continue to add H me so what I was saying is the Bible has been Rewritten so many times false it's been translated so many times
04:34:39
Kikofaithfully and accurately can you tell finish's interrup me every word I say dude just continue like everything I talk he's interrupting me every word if I do that you would get all my case you both interrupt it's a conversation just
04:34:51
Kikojust go ahead go ahead Kiko the Bible has been translated multiple times and there is proof and evidence stating that most of those translations from those scriptures they were actually saying a man should not lay with a child it was
04:35:04
Kikonot man and man a lot of things have been translated because there's so much um p word that runs through the church that they do think or reacting like that it's not in the Vatican there's not we don't have I'm sorry I can't listen to that false I
04:35:17
Deborahlearned the Bible in the original language that was written I learned in aric and I learned in Hebrew and it's never a child it's a man should not lay in bed with another man and so Jews don't even share beds like on Sleepaway trips if we went overnight Jews two guys are not allowed to even share a bed for
04:35:29
Deboraha sleepover because it's that serious that it also even more so means that you should not do anything gay but the pedophilia in the church that's a whole different issue I think than this specific issue of like is being gay right or wrong is is being trans my away
04:35:43
Kikofrom that thank for your information with that I've read things that differ in even in church the churches I've gone to have said things a differ so I would like to talk more about you with that um
04:35:53
Kikobut overall my whole thing is I don't think in God's light would he want you sitting here shaming people more for what they're doing what they're doing is not affecting you in your life so why don't you just mind your [ __ ]
04:36:05
Kikobusiness instead of spewing hate on a podcast with so much influence on people let them live their lives them live okay so just why do you care so much why does it bother you so much are you attracted
04:36:18
Brian Atlasto them and it makes you feel some type of way it I'm going to I'm going to respond to that but Brian go ahead one quick thing so I would like to try to direct the conversation I mean we can have a
04:36:29
Chasetheological discussion about what the Bible before you do that this is not about me shaming people this is not about me doing anything like you just
04:36:38
Chasedescribed I stated biological facts and you have a problem with me stating biological facts and the facts that I stated is for a man to have sex with a
04:36:50
Chasetransom he would be having sex with a biological male which is homosexual that is what I said that is all I've ever said I haven't sat on this podcast shaming people being hateful towards people I've stated very basic facts and
04:37:03
Chaseyou sit on the other side and you're like you can't do that as the supposed Godly Christian man you need to be tolerant towards people it is our job as Christians to align ourselves with the word of God it is also our job to as
04:37:15
ChaseJesus said Make Disciples of the Nations and to share the word of God and you make all these statements about Chase you can't be judgmental towards people Jesus told us we are to Jud we are we are in this life to judge with righteous
04:37:28
Chasejudgment and whatever judgment we apply towards others we will be judged by that exact same standard with which we judge others it's not a Christian's job to just walk around the world and be tolerant it's a Christian's job to
04:37:40
Chasecombat evil and to combat falsehoods okay and for for you to say oh it's so hateful and intolerant and you're trying to shame people who want to make these decisions it's none of these things I'm
04:37:51
Samuelsimply speaking truth may I add to that as well that part of what your explanation was was that the Bible has been mistranslated over thousands of years and that it's this game of telephone and we've actually lost the
04:38:03
Samuelauthenticity of the message that's completely untrue and it's proven to be untrue by the Dead Sea Scrolls and I highly encourage you to look at the Dead Sea scroll and look at the Hebrew that people have
04:38:14
Samuelit's so basically what happened was we found old manuscripts that were thousands of years old in an old cave somewhere in Israel or something like that like the 40s too in the 1940s and
04:38:26
Samuelwhat we found was that the they had been um they had been saved through time in these clay pots and it was it's it's an amazing story actually you should read into how we found these because some kid was playing around in a cave and he
04:38:37
Samuelfound these clay pots and they had the manuscripts of the Bible within them and what we found was when we when people much smarter than me and you translated
04:38:47
Samuelthese documents back into English today and it matched up perfectly with what we have from the Bible there's no way to make a 100% perfect translation though no matter seen them in person I went to
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Deborahthis Museum in the Dead Sea I speak Aramaic you read it and it's the exact same text from like 3,000 years ago that they found at the bottom of the Dead Sea with ancient Egyptian chariots from the same story and a big thing is like if
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Deborahyou look at the Torah and as instead of it or the Bible for things short if you look at it as a history book instead of just a religious Doctrine it's historically accurate the things that are written in the Bible are what have happened you can go and find ancient
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Deborahruins confirming all the things even I went to Israel I saw all the Jesus things the St Peter Apostle and all correct me if I'm saying it wrong but like it's a historical text document so I think it's two different arguments
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Brian Atlaswhether it's like has it been properly translated and are you spewing hate but I wasn't here for that obviously let me try to direct the conversation because we are getting a little bit into
04:39:46
Brian Atlassemantics let's talk about the main thing though so basically Chase is saying wow you guys said that you disagree with Chase's statement about uh
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Ally (Gorlock)that being homosexual yeah you disagree with that I think it's an opinion it's a biological fact no it's an opinion it's an opinion why do you dis why do you disagree so as a trans woman there's
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Ally (Gorlock)these things that we encounter wait you got to speak you got there these things that we call Chasers okay okay Chasers named after Chase wait like great no oh not not not
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Ally (Gorlock)saying alcohol are we talking about I'm talking about there's like they're call Chasers like basically men who specifically seek out trans women for their their genitals because they like
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Ally (Gorlock)the femininity whatever cuz they're gay I mean yeah I mean I mean I don't know whatever no no no no no let me finish let me finish there's categories to this [ __ ] there's categories there's
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Ally (Gorlock)categories to this [ __ ] and let me finish that's gay you're going after a for the chick with a dick you want to play with her dick yeah no but when you say doesn't get mad at you
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Ally (Gorlock)but when I ignorant there categories there's categories for you there really isn't there's straight categories to this [ __ ] Mar because if there can literally be a
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Ally (Gorlock)guy let's say I'm not okay let's say for some in some crazy worlds or no no no no let's say [ __ ] speaking like real world [ __ ] whatever the [ __ ] sorry let's
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Ally (Gorlock)go so let's say there's or let's say for you example or let's say they like I'm just using use an example okay I'm not saying you in general just use an
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Ally (Gorlock)example you see a beautiful woman she's like 5 foot four she's like beautiful and you didn't know that she was trans and say let's say she's fully operated
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Ally (Gorlock)you find her attractive right you don't know she's trans you're attracted to her femininity and because you're attracted to her femininity you didn't know that she was a guy that that's a completely different
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Ally (Gorlock)thing that wouldn't make you gay to find her attractive thank you but to have sex her but to go to but to have sex is a little bit more different because some men can past the fact so can I weigh in on that if you end up sleep I know now
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Kikoyou're saving yourself from marriage but beforehand if you found out that one of the people you had slept with actually was a biological meal and right away it's not the same
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Chasealso you can tell it inside out you can tell can't make always tellor that so ignorant you can't you think a guy wouldn't be able
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Chaseto tell a biological woman from somebody who's you a from somebody if if you're sober if you're sober seeing a biological Woman versus somebody who's had their you know down there hacked
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Kikoapart and resutured together bro you'd be able to tell listen listen no listen to me listen to me something [ __ ] else I can't you can tell you guys do you hear this God do you hear other
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Samuelpeople are said don't mutilate your body as a man I can tell we can remove religion from this conversation but but yeah religion religion completely removed all right last summer I went to
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SamuelThailand with my friend we already heard this there is 30% of the women 30% of the men I should say convert into women making 15 of the PO 15% of the
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Samuelpopulation lady boys all right it's like a third gender because of how prevalent it is let me tell you I know when they're a lady boy it t it they're very convincing they are
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Samuelvery convincing they get their Adam's Apple shaved down they get their jawline shaved down they do everything to present themselves as a woman actually the most expensive thing that they have to go through is getting their dick
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Samuelchopped off and so they don't and so they don't do that but let me tell you let me tell you [ __ ] done again dude as a man I know that that's a dude it doesn't matter how feminine they present
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Kikothemselves matter I want to know why this what specifically is making you upset yeah it's just I I just can't believe that people you're upset because I know that trans says I want to hear what she says why are you upset what I'm
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Kikosaying it's just the Laughing the giggling the you it's a joke to you guys and this is people's lives do people wake up like they don't feel like they're in the right body and it's I've seen I work with kids I've seen the
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Kikochildren it actually affects people and the the suicide rate in the trans Community is already so high and this podcast has so many [ __ ] views and you guys get up on here and just [ __ ] on them and just laugh all [ __ ] time
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Kikoit's hateful as [ __ ] just let them [ __ ] live their lives if they're not choosing if they're not bothering you if they're not trying to trap you into sleeping with them just let them live their [ __ ] lives they're not bothering you why does it affect you so much okay okay that's those are good
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Chasequestions no it's ridiculous grow up mature mature pleas please let me respond to you goad please let me respond to you those are good questions why do we care so much if it affects us and also you know calling out the
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Chaseinsensitivity look I have deep I I don't know what it would be like to wake up every day and to feel like I was born in the wrong body okay I don't know what that would be like and for people that are in that position I have compassion for them I can't imagine you know if you
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Chasehad compassion you wouldn't be doing half the [ __ ] up your I'm laughing at how callously he's saying no you've been laughing all podcast at jokes what were the jokes you laughing please please just let me respond I have compassion
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Chasefor people that are in that position okay and and people like that need help okay and there's our society has different philosophies in terms of how we can help people like that you have like people on the left that want to do
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Chaseso-called gender affirming care in which people do get operations where their bodies end up M mutilated and a lot of people end up severely regretting it after the fact and those people end up
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Chasesuicidal I read their stories all the time stories of of men transitioners exist but that's not hold on hold on let me just make my point I read a story on on Twitter a few
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Chasemonths ago of this guy who who had his penis surgically removed and he woke up every day and was horrified at the decision that he had made with his life and he wanted to kill himself and the
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Chasereason why why someone like me cares is because this ideology you say let let these people live their lives how does it affect you this ideology is penetrating all across our society and
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Billy Raykids are now becoming propagandized with this the kid that you were talking about would have never thought that way before if they weren't exposed to it at very very young age she just said that she had no idea what that term was if let me just let me just finish my point you
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Chaseguys can respond if you look at the statistics of people that identify as lgbtq right now compared to previous generations it is exponentially increasing because it's not just people living their lives it's kids going to
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Chaseschool public schools and their teachers telling them hey yeah you can be a boy if you want to hey yeah you can be a girl if you Lear they get please hold on please hold on please I I will I will listen I will listen to you have to say
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ChaseI'm making important points here kids in that position when they're being told by authority figures hey yeah you're actually a girl those kids then are getting funneled towards getting irreversible procedures done and
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Chaseirreversible hormone therapy and pu puberty blockers and all this kind of stuff and and it's it's it it completely stunts people's development irreversibly okay and you can go off of them stop you can go off you can go off of them but it
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Chasechanges people's devel I did research all day on this actually so don't correct me on that I made a video this her News company but the point is it's it's it is affecting a lot of people and and a lot of it is propaganda as well
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Chaseand it is changing people's lives irreversibly and and children are ending up mutilated as a result of it and on top of that a lot of these transgender procedures and surgeries do not significantly affect the suicide rate a
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Kikolot of those people still are suicidal after the fact and it's not like it's not care that's effective so I I think that there should care about this there should be I don't think that you should just be like one day be like oh I believe I'm a woman I believe I'm a male
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Kikoand you should be able to walk in and just get procedures or get home run blockers or get think kids should be able to be propagandized in school about propagandized that's a very strong word teacher telling 8-year-olds you can be a girl a teacher is telling kids it's okay
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Kikoto feel the way they're feeling I think that is important yes no I don't think they should be saying oh you need to yeah change genders not just teach in a teacher comforting a kid and be like you know what it's not not
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Ally (Gorlock)they're shame but you know it's okay I understand whatever but if I if a teacher's purposely going out of their way to be like explain that kind of stuff okay yeah I get it but a kid if I
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Ally (Gorlock)for example me if I was let's rewind to 10 years ago when I was like 12 or 11 whatever let's say if I went to my teacher and my counselor and like you know what I'm having these feelings and