BANGS STORMS OFF?! (RAGE QUIT) | Dating Talk #101

Date: 2023-09-18

Duration: 4h 59m

Guests

MMadison (DT101)

Brian Atlas

KKiki (co-host DT126)>

LLeila Jenner >

KKatie (DT101)>

AAllison (DT101)>

RRachel (DT101)>

BBilly Ray (DT101)>

DDan (DM Dating)>

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00TTS Reader(audience)

SPEAKER_01Dan(guest)

SPEAKER_02Rachel(guest)

SPEAKER_03K(guest)

SPEAKER_04Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_05Anay(guest)

SPEAKER_06Kiki(guest)

SPEAKER_07Leila Jenner(guest)

SPEAKER_08Billy Ray(guest)

SPEAKER_09Katie(guest)

SPEAKER_10Allison(guest)

SPEAKER_11Madison(guest)

Key Moments

IntroLeila Jenner intro: 20yo porn star / OnlyFans, stage name, from Texas.

“I'm Leila Jenner I'm 20 and I'm a porn [star]”

RelationshipLeila reveals she is legally married to a 21yo Mormon bishop candidate in Utah while openly dating content creator Zera. Marriage is open/informal. Panel debates credibility of the story.

“I have a husband he's Mormon but I'm dating Zera”

ControversyAllison states that being born with a penis means you are a man; frames this as biological fact during a feminism/trans discussion.

“when you are biologically born with a vagina you're a girl and when you're born with a penis I'm out”

Key MomentAnay ("Bangs") storms off set after Allison's statement about biological sex, calling it transphobic. Brian confirms: "That was our first bangs walkoff."

“I'm out [exits]”

QuoteBrian confirms the walkoff on-air: "That was our first bangs walkoff."

“all right that was our first bangs walkoff”

Key MomentRachel reveals she has a 4.5-year platonic male mentor who has paid her >$10k this year alone; panel debates whether this constitutes sugar babying.

“it's more than 10,000 correct yes okay”

Key MomentRachel explains she broke up with 6-year boyfriend ~3 months before a Sweden trip to visit first love; admits the trip was a catalyst for the breakup.

“this trip gave me the out I'm like I'm going to go and I'm going to be with my best friend... there's a likely chance I'm going to have interest in him”

QuoteK reveals she used seeking arrangements to fund an entire Texas road trip by doing 2-minute FaceTime calls for ~$500 each.

“all I did was FaceTime and like be like Hi how are you doing and then they... I got that entire trip paid for”

IntroAnay returns to the show after her walkoff (~4:06 mark).

“she's here”

QuoteLeila describes sugar daddy income: ~$300/date in Texas, up to $2k for a movie day, ~$4k/month total at peak, while attending nursing school.

“I would say like maybe 5,000 for one guy... in one week like I hung out with like three at the most”

QuoteBrian asks Leila about body count; she reveals she started college at 16 and had 40 partners by end of freshman year.

“you started college at 16 your freshman year of college you [had] 40 dudes yes”

QuoteLeila tracks her body count through college: 7 entering, 40 by end of freshman year, ~67 by start of junior year, then ~60 personal + ~50 in porn = 100+.

“freshman year we had this contest... sophomore year probably got up to 67 by junior year... then I got into porn and that was probably another 50”

Key MomentLeila offers oral sex to host Brian Atlas on air; Brian deflects with humor. SPEAKER_03 (K) intervenes. Creates prolonged comedic exchange.

“I give myself six I think you're 10... this girl trying to gas me up so she can give me a BJ”

Topics Discussed

Guest introductions and relationship statuses

Guests introduce themselves; Brian goes around table on relationship status. Leila reveals she is legally married to a 21yo Mormon bishop candidate while dating "Zera"; story debated for credibility.

Sex work, OnlyFans, and social shame

Discussion of OnlyFans, porn, and whether sex work should face social shame. Billy Ray argues for returning social stigma to sex work; Leila, Anay, and K defend their work.

Sugar daddies and seeking arrangements

Panel discusses experiences with sugar daddies and seeking arrangements. Leila had 3 at once; made ~$4k/month in Texas. K did 2-min FaceTime calls for $500 each. Rachel describes her long-term platonic male mentor who paid her sporadically.

Dating dynamics and who has it easier (men vs women)

Brian and Dan argue women have dating on "easy mode" due to sexual optionality. Panel debates Bumble, rejection rates, group project analogy for dating initiative.

Feminism, wage gap, and trans rights

Heated exchange on feminism and wage gap statistics. Allison states biological sex is determined at birth; Anay calls it transphobic and storms off the set at ~2:44:35.

Bangs (Anay) walkoff and aftermath

Brian and panel discuss Anay's departure. Dan argues she stormed off because her feminist arguments were being debunked. Leila defends Anay. Anay returns at ~4:06.

Rachel's sugar daddy and 6-year relationship story

Rachel explains her 4.5-year platonic male mentor arrangement. Panel debates whether it qualifies as sugar babying. Rachel then describes breaking up with 6-year boyfriend ~3 months before a Sweden trip to see first love.

Women keeping in contact with exes while in relationships

Discussion of Rachel's situation; Dan and Brian argue women often line up next relationship before officially ending the current one.

Body count and its effects

Panel debates whether body count matters. Leila reveals her count: ~7 entering college, 40 by end of freshman year, ~67 by junior year, then stagnated ~60 personal + ~50 in porn = 100+. K explains endometriosis limiting hers. Madison describes her frat president competition freshman year.

Self-ratings

Stiffler chat triggers self-rating round. Madison: 8, Allison: 9.5, Rachel: 4-5 (undecided), Dan: 7.5, K: 6, Brian: 7.5-8. Brian notes Anay would have said 10.

Transcript

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Brian Atlasboth going away to different colleges under no circumstance should you do long distance absolutely not if your girlfriend I don't care what age you are but this is you typically see this in like college relationships your

Brian Atlasgirlfriend's going to do a study abroad program in Italy or Spain for 4 months sorry Nick um you break up with her if she like it's done it's done dude

Brian Atlasdon't first it's obviously it's long distance bro unless it's done break up I mean if you have to be pretty sure on on the girl but she's going to

Brian Atlasget it in unless F what's an Italian name um for Lorenzo I don't know what the you're G to get it like Lorenzo

TTS ReaderLoren I don't know Mario um third thing I'll this L life has three abortions and she's conservative can't 100% pinpoint

TTS Readerbut something is wrong with her in the head her dad is a good citizen to disown her her tombstone will sa from the streets she did emerge and to the streets she will return okay do you have a response do you have a response I

Rachelcould just like never have it in me to be that rude or mean you have no you have no Insight onto like my three abortions and I am very conservative and

Brian AtlasI am Republican and um I still stand by that so wait qu Okay I hold on I got to push back a little bit here please when you got the three were you did you consider yourself conservative at the

Ktime yeah that's never changed but aren't conservatives pro choice or sorry pro-life excuse me pro-life yes they are well you know have just because all of them are pro-life doesn't mean wait are

Rachelis that serious like do you guys not understand that like being conservative doesn't mean everyone has to I was not in the position the babies weren't safe I wasn't safe I'm going to I'm not going to bring a kid in for does we does that

Allisonnot make sense because just because you're conservative doesn't mean you agree with everything I feel like it's so divided like if you're conservative or liberal you have to agree 100% on both conses are

Rachelnaturally would you ever consider like a surrogate or adoption a is when you choose I couldn't have given the baby to someone just adoption so you're proo I consider

Brian Atlasadopting adoption adoption caring out the pregnancy oh pro-choice I don't know if I I don't know if I could do that I don't know if that's like if that really Che but are you Pro Choice conservative

Billy RayI would have to call that selfish if you wouldn't consider adoption but you chose to abort the baby well and that's makes me selfish I'm still conservative and yes I had three abortions I I get it sometimes whenever there's like a body

Leila Jennerlike um CU I know some some women can't go through pregnancy with their body physically physically can't but I think I I've never ever been through that so I can't say much but I think that would

Leila Jennertake such a long like thought process and like abortion or like adoption Sor pick me much I didn't yeah no no you know like I feel like that's such a hard like decision but like it never crossed

Rachelyour mind like ever what like to like adoption that did cross my mind it did absolutely but you said it didn't take much thought no no I had my mind I had my mind made up% I would stand by that

Brian Atlaswith my chest isn't pretty like one of the central pillars of conservatism is pro more so traditionality and I would say tradition rather than yeah well I mean like if you're cons like if you're I went

Rachelagainst that and I still consider myself C conservative do you consider yourself pro life I I don't want to answer that question based on my personal experien I can't answer that I don't think you have

Katieto fit into a that's what I'm saying as long as you're owning up like I'm not pro I think there's certain morals in each I think there's certain morals in each group just think though if you have

Allisonconservative values you're more naturally going to be pro life I I get what you're saying but like it's it's per issue too I mean you don't have to

Allisonagree with everything a conservative agrees on or everything a liberal conser or agrees on look here's the thing conservatives believe in a right in a right to life and a right to self-preservation that's a big reason

Danwhy we're huge Second Amendment supporters okay we believe the most important thing is property and life and the pro-life versus pro-choice argument comes down to whether or not you think the thing inside of you is a life okay that's all I'm going to say that's all

DanI'm going to say about I mean does it live with me to this day absolutely absolutely okay but my my my point is like the conserva I'll use the term Doctrine for lack of a better term but the conservative Doctrine is one that

Danprotects life doesn't destroy it that that's why he's confused at the fact so what would you say if I if I told you right now it wasn't it wasn't up to me who was would you believe that it wasn't that that wasn't true or what would you

Danwe're getting into a very very anr sociological debate that goes deep and I don't know if Brian necessarily wants us to go I I definitely don't want to but I'm just saying I think I I get where you're coming from just sure sure and I

Brian Atlasmean look I I suppose it's certainly plausible maybe what well I think I already asked you said you Jes I can't speak speak it's getting late uh you

Brian Atlaswere cons you considered yourself conservative I still am when you no you still are but because because someone could in their past maybe have been a bit more liberal when it came to the

Brian Atlasabortion topic but after the fact maybe they had a change of heart I mean even I think the original woman who was involved in the roie Wade case she

Brian Atlasactually like later on in life she actually became a staunch Pro uh life person even though she was like the one that that a lot uh what I that's a big

Katiequestion that's like you can't something I feel like I just have a lot of sympathy for you cuz it's kind of hard when like pieces of your identity don't align because your past but you still like identify as conservative like personally like I'm Christian like I

Katiehave an amazing relationship with God am I liberal absolutely you don't hear that much but it's hard when your pieces of your identity do not let's talk about that I'm just saying it's hard when the

Katiepieces of your ident see where you guys are coming from but I am sorry because you feel like you have to be in a box you can't be expence I am truly sorry though because I know things like that are really hard let not do but I do

Brian Atlasappreciate that thank you but let's let's move yeah yeah yeah okay so before before Mike Davis came in and uh said his do you want to roast him back really quick or are you over it no I I don't I

Brian Atlasdon't have the energy or the mindset to called she called him rude that was that was enough you're mean Davis you are okay um wait is that one of the guys that comments a lot yeah he oh my God I was always a supporter of your

Brian Atlascomments until it was to me W Davis she she L you she liked you Mike Davis and now you've ruined it it's okay I'll forgive you never meet your Heroes okay

Brian Atlasum all right so the I was going to say three things so I said no long distance no EUR like if there's Euro trips break up um and then the third thing related to your previous story is you do not

Brian Atlaswomen who are friends with their ex-boyfriend or friends with people they previously who you talking to a little advice for some men there oh who's huh was asking question if a

Brian Atlasgirl if you're friends with a guy who you before you are not girlfriend material goodbye that's not that one of

Kall the three that I was saying about that earlier was if you okay if they're not talking anymore they haven't blocked on everything and you still bring it up that's what that's why it's like weird or no but she was homies she was like

Rachelstill tight with the yeah that's what I'm saying yeah that's unacceptable that's an assumption we were still friends but yes you're right you're right not down the wrong alley the homies is fine though I mean I think you can anyone you want and be friends with everyone you want what the see

Rachelsee well I get with you see that I don't agree with that but what now it sounds like I'm crossing path so cuz I was still in communication with women are emotionally stimulated if they still talk to somebody corre have an emotional

Danbond to them that arouses them that stimulates them that means that they're still going to have a chance to fall in love with them it's still going they're still going to want to them and if they want to somebody else they're not actually in love with

Leila Jenneryou Abol love to everybody 100% you do you disagree with what he's saying like a little bit because I do love I do love but I love a lot yeah but yeah yeah but

Leila Jennerif you love a lot that means love is just your equilibrium I'm a person that means that you don't I have so much love I just have to give it I just have to it out with 20 million people day I feel like you have very different forms of Love though

Madisonright yeah for sure for sure like you love your husband but you also love your friends you know what I mean like I keep hearing you say love like it's such a like like a broad there's no meaning to

Leila Jennerthe words part those are different typ I love my My love language is sure but I love love langu my boyfriend differ you know it's not the same type like I love

Leila Jennerlike like I have so much love for her words don't have meaning all your words don't have meaning that's my biggest issue for me My love language is but no she loves everybody so she she

Leila Jennerloves nobody say verions of love I don't love everybody you know but the ones I do love I do want to cuz that's my love language you know friends included

Allisonso after you your friends like how is it how's the dynamic after homies like like it's it's normal I would be when I'm at P attention no anyways when I would be at

Leila Jennerpan house like I I'm naked there 24/7 and it's a house full of like six guys and none of them have tried to me except like I mean I was Zer or whatever but I'm at the house like he doesn't even like he doesn't get all up on me cuz I'm naked like I can just walk

Leila Jenneraround naked and like sit on them and like cuddle with them and like do whatever I couldn't do that I couldn't do that with my friends I mean I just I just do I don't know why I just feel like like I'm like a naked cat and I

Racheljust want to go sit on people's laps again they're not her friends they're just men they are my friends if I if I told you right now then you should reconsider the quality of your friends would you take it to heart and maybe like reflect on that why do you think

Rachelthey're not good friends they don't me I mean I have friends that I'm I can guarantee some of them might want to initially have sex with me but I mean but they respect me on a friendship

Leila Jennerlevel they care about me way more than what they can do or get from me and um they wouldn't sleep with me genuinely because they care about me as a human most of them don't sleep with me I just zica but how do you feel about like nudus an exhibitionist like do you think

Leila Jennerme being naked at a house is weird like I just like to be naked a little bit especially if you have a boyfriend not have youever have you ever met someone that just like have you ever gone to like a house party or something and there's just a girl that's naked there

Rachellike everyone in the room including me is like what the is this doing here I've just never been in that situation I have it's awful it's like

Leila Jenneryeah I'm usually naked like 24/7 when I'm at houses like and I just think that like I'm honestly I'm so like people think and if someone was uncomfortable yet I'd just be like bro leave the room like I'm going to be naked like it's not a big deal everyone

Leila Jennerhas a body so you want the entire part also a porn star and like I'm naked on camera so much that I don't feel like I don't feel weird when I'm naked you know I feel normal when I'm naked talk cuz there's like

Brian Atlasso here and here let me read some chats let me actually Lea can you read these go ahead um do you want me to read this no just go ahead okay the girl with a three

Leila Jennerabortions who accepts money from a lonely old man is being overly judgmental ma'am you were in no moral position to judge someone doing I'm guessing point you killed three kids and that couple is trying too hard to

Leila Jennerproject a perfect image that wait what does the last part say um that couple is trying too hard to present A Perfect Image they're talking about me and Billy all right well you can say whatever the you want about me but they're not

Leila Jennerdoing anything other than being themselves off and also you're mean be nicer come on and you donated money go ahead Lea I'm going back on my own word to do

Leila Jennerthis one last time but listening to Dan talk I don't want to keep it to myself he is so monotone but I relate to him so heavily with his thought processes and

Leila Jennergenerally how he tries and succeeds to be logical props bro that's nice time that's nice appreciate that what's what's going on what

Danwhat talk about L by the way you're like the first guy who's told me that I'm monotonic usually people are like you're way too like up and down with the way you speak I think I think even mon relax you're too relax you're too intense you

Billy Raywere when we first started dating I did tell Dan he was too intense it was actually a major I really I did have theck and then notice how despite the ick I didn't change and eventually she

Billy Rayrespected the fact I had the ick when I met Dan response back to that when she told I thought he was too intense she never told me because his like voice his tone was too energetic or this is what women do women will test

Danmen they're going to they're going to say things like that gives me the ick and guess what if he stops doing that they're going be like you're that easy to control done test are so easy I hate your shoe this girl cannot stand

Danthe fact that I wear Vans it's a it's a great shoe dirty it's a great it's a great shoe for lifting it's a great shoe for just slipping on and taking a casual walk if they were clean at least and I'm a and I'm a tall guy little ankle

Danexposure does wonders for my look but imagine if she exposure but imagine but imagine if she was just like oh my God those shoes are so ugly and I went oh my God I'm so sorry she'd be like well yeah not that

Allisonbut like do you do you like appreciate her input on like 100% yeah and then I buy them new shoes if she and then you wear them and then it's all good yeah yeah okay and by the way he still wears the vents though but and by the way if

Danshe ever said something to me that she legitimately thought I think you need to change this I love you and because I love you I'm noticing something that can dramatically improve your own life and

Danyour own self-image she'd probably come to me in a much more serious way than just oh my God she's going to be the ick you know what I mean so it's different it's different that's how you know word word uh I think we're all cut up on

Brian Atlaschats here I'm trying to think what else we had to uh to do uh wait what's chat saying let me see negative um I don't know where the we were oh there was

Brian AtlasI think there was one last thing here then we'll we'll do brief after show and then we're going to wrap okay so is is your friend okay is she good she's probably pissing she's okay she's been in been there she ran to her car real

Brian Atlasquick oh wait oh Nick did she have to go to her car yeah she might be G she might have to answer her phone call no she's coming back I spoke to her she's just dealing with something small she'll there's no way to get her okay well uh

Brian Atlaswe'll have to have someone go down and get her I guess maybe we'll have Madison do that minutes she's shouting um oh but she doesn't know which door she okay um

Brian Atlasuh all right so sorry guys some girl just walked off the podcast she's out of I don't know what happened um let's see so this is for Rachel

Brian Atlasmodern dating is effed effed up in all sorts of ways you said something about porn double standards what did you mean by that porn double standards only fans oh sorry um what what is the D are

Rachelwe still responding oh she in the bathroom yeah she was are we still responding to moose she's coming back second there's a much higher chance you won't be able to have no she's here they said birth control is free um wait what what am I

Rachelanswering you you you said something modern eting is up yeah I think that the and porn double standards that was the other thing that you said that mean I know yeah yeah yeah um well there's plenty of them I think I've already voiced some um I just think

Rachelmodern dating is like very up based on the way society says like it comes into feminism porn only fans um everything in between sure I for what else did I write okay but you said uh

Rachelthe the adult content double standards what do you mean by that um like the um a male a male that takes like a Conservative Christian whatever um

Rachelperspective and um so some men will be like oh I would never date a porn star and then like you're jerking off to porn on God well hold on okay I have I have a rebuttal to

Rachelthat I mean I would love to hear it cuz I I need I need an eye opener difference between like it offended me in my past like someone's like oh I would never date a porn star and then you're jacking

Brian Atlasoff to porn okay I like to watch football me too I have no interest in playing professional football that does not make me a hypocrite okay no that's a valid but but

Rachelbut oh sorry but we're talking about like the sex industry which a lot of us are saying or some of us are saying and debating that it is very vulgar maybe volatile um exposes people people and

Brian Atlassome of the words we can't use we all know that there's those ties to it as well um wait which ones but the words we I think the way you originally phrased it was men not wanting to date a woman

Rachelwho or or or women not wanting to date a male that's in it I mean I could never date a porn are I know that for a fact so just let me let me hold on let me try to articulate your argument I could

Brian Atlaseither you're saying that if you consume porn it would be hypocritical of you to not want to date somebody in that industry is that what you're saying um I guess that's kind of what I said but no

RachelI would say that you're like um that would like for me like when I'm saying I like think that there's like no logic in your job that's fine I I'm not like I don't have to think I don't have to

Katiethink hard J I would say hypocritical to date somebody but hypocritical to point the finger and be like what you're doing is bad but you're feeding into the profession that's the double standard like yeah I don't want to dat

Rachelthem football into it is very like football it pulling for that which I get say stre you Mak sense but it's not the

Brian Atlassame thing and let's be real like but okay if your argument is and perhaps I misunderstood if your argument is it is wrong to consume a product but not want

Brian Atlasto in this case if you consume porn it is wrong that you would not want to date or be otherwise romantically involved with a woman who does porn that doesn't

Rachelmake you hypocritical okay so I'm calling it a double standard not hypocritical what what's the double standard that's what hypocriticism is I feel like literally the fact that you're that okay wait like no your boyfriend

Rachelcomes to you as like okay let's say I you're my boyfriend and I'm like hey I want to do only fans and you're like absolutely not I'm not going to date and only fan star subscribed to only fans that that's not a that's not a c a

Rachelcoherent argument no it's not it's not that's not coherent that so that doesn't make sense my opinion so are you allowed have the opinion that you wouldn't date a porn star well of course certainly I am so

RachelI'm allowed to have the opinion that it's a double standard if my significant other was to say or or or or anyone for perhaps was to say I don't I would never

Brian Atlasdate a porn star but I'm going to consume porn's no way shape or form that that makes sense let me let me try to address this so the double standard

Brian Atlaswould be if your boyfriend watches porn and he had an issue with you watching porn that's a double standard him watching porn while in a relationship

Brian Atlaswhich you may very well object to however that's not specifically okay that's not what we're talking about though exactly you if your boyfriend watches porn in a relationship that's

Brian Atlasvery different than his significant other being involved in producing porn

Brian Atlasyeah you think so here's the here's mind my mind literally just the double standard you it doesn't follow the double standard would be what what would

Brian Atlasa double standard I'll Artic let me just say not with a football reference yes I will articulate it once again the double standard would be if your boyfriend watches porn and okay if your boyfriend watches

Brian Atlasporn Okay and okay if your boyfriend watches porn yeah I know it's late your boyriend let me say your boyfriend watch on if your boyfriend watches porn porn he and

Danhe had an issue with you watching porn that would be a double standard okay yeah I get that but saying like just because can I can I can I I can okay okay here here's the issue tou if a man so what you said about men watching porn

Danand supporting it if he thought that that's the double standard I'm talking if he thought that porn was objectively a bad thing that should not exist and should not be supported should not be paid for and was paying for it that

Danwould be illogical like if he held the belief like oh my God porn is so bad for society what I was think I can't I can't believe that men actually actually do this stuff like the world the world would be the world would be a better

Danplace if people just stopped watching porn and then went ahead and did it then he would be a hypocrite but so that's the but if you but it's not the same to say you can think that porn is allowed

Danto exist and consume porn for whatever reasons you decide to consume porn and S and simultaneously and simultaneously hold

Danthe opinion that you don't want to date that type of person because because you're consum CU you're consuming it as entertainment right like I watch movies but I wouldn't want to date an actress you know like like that would be the

Rachelsame thing I'm not saying that that's that that's true by the way I'm saying that that is but but that that's the equivalent you're saying that I don't know okay but but don't let her shift I agree but like I don't agree for some

Brian Atlasreason I'm like that's still a double standard for you to be like okay so let's not shift the goal post on her behalf her position as stated very clearly take it away yeah her your position as stated very clearly it would

Brian Atlasbe either hypocritical or a double standard I I still think that I still stand by that 100% And I think a lot of people would let meish just got my AR she thinks she thinks it's she thinks

Brian Atlasit's a double standard for a guy who watches porn to have any objections to his girlfriend being involved in the porn industry that is position real you need to realize

Rachelyeah I do personally I would and maybe that's like we're saying are more logical women are more emotional but if my boyfriend is going to be like I would never date a porn star like I don't

Kappreciate porn I don't believe in what they're doing and is going to consume it it doesn't not understand the logic I do not if I didn't want to date if I didn't want to date an actress who's getting raed by but hold on wait a second wait a

Dansecond take take take it up if I didn't football player if I no no hold on if I didn't want to date an actress but I still thought me this all comes down to but I still thought films and Cinema should be allowed to be made is that

Brian Atlasallowed I don't never mean that's your opinion I would never did an actress but I still think movies should be made I got some more I got some more do you my opinion I got some more do you uh do you ever get fast food do you ever get fast

Brian Atlasfood but but I let's say yes let's say let's say think of like a very high-powered woman like let's say an attorney is she obliged to to date a minimum wage worker at McDonald's

Rachelbecause she eats McDonald's that's really far off come on well that's literally you say that it's stand my maybe we could shake it up

Kto the game but no I I see it as one well you're saying that it's because they're the fast food they're buying okay they're buying they are buying the porn yes they are okay but does that mean don't even have to but okay they're

Kwatching it they don't have to buy regardless to finish my statement sorry but it it's just like he doesn't want to date a woman who is get having sex with random people every single film that is

Kthe only reason why he's saying I can watch porn but I do not want to date a porn star or if like he can watch an he can watch a film but not want to date that actress who is making out with new people on set for every single film you don't want that intimacy to be shared

Rachelwith someone else that's not up for me but I can agree I can it sounds like consensus is you guys all agree with that I don't so confused I don't take it up what is so so what is

Dansorry I can't say the the p word preference like p word are you hting because you want me to agree p word ography right it's videos it's film right you can call yourself a performer right I know where we're going I call a mattress actress I think it has I don't

Rachelknow you picked on it so you would consider on it a mattress actress is trash May by trash blank is trash made by trash people hammered in Munich right

Brian Atlasnow for October Fest yeah October Fest yo Mr oober Mr me Duna Dunka shine is that how you say thank you in German um but that is definitely clear okay is it really dun shine shine isn't that

Danthank you I think I'm I'm using the I'm using the film SLV videography or Cinema whatever example you want to use just cuz I'm literally taking it up one level

DanI'm going from sexual actor to nonsexual actor okay I can watch this and not want to date the person doing that profession same way that I can watch a movie and

Danenjoy a movie and not want to date the people in that profession it's the same okay but what about the Str attached you're not and not want to a dolphin wait so I can make youny but you're not hope not dolphins are

Madisondope but I ain't trying to a dolphin you know what I mean whatever podcast but not want to

Brian AtlasBrian anybody who watches my podcast man or woman who doesn't want to me I'm deeply offended but list oh really you're very offed at that point I mean but you don't want to me oh Jesus

Leila Jennerthis girl all right you're blushing we'll give you a little bit of attention geted we've given you some attention no you're literally getting red I'm looking at you the attention you're looking at me and this is attention and you're getting I just have a red face look you're getting red like right here

Leila Jenneryou're literally getting am I blushing little Ros a little Ros I just I'm about to win this bet bro I'm just getting heated because I'm talking about dolphin son

Brian Atlassounds like your mind's on whoa what the okay I don't know how we can explain this to you because it's just not like is the word tenuous I

Brian Atlasdon't know what the uh it's like a it's a tenuous position Ted but no that's in detail that's yeah I mean it's in we're not talking about I just

Rachelit sorry how is it a double stand like I don't see how it's a double standard to if you watch something you don't I don't know that's how I see it this is genuinely been an AR she thinks it's a logical she thinks it doesn't add up she

Rachelthinks it's hypocritical she does think it's a you don't you don't and like things you Lally break that down and then you're going to watch it I'm like come on no no but stop Shifting the goal post okay I'm not I'm

Brian Atlastelling you what I'm saying by what you asked me no okay first let's differentiate the two different arguments so I agree with you on one if you're like up on your high hor and

Brian Atlasyou're saying porn is so bad people shouldn't watch porn porn is contributing to the degeneracy of society and you consume it you pay for it etc

Brian Atlasetc yes that would make you hypocritical however if when it comes to your dating preferences if you watch porn and you

Leila Jennerdon't want to date a woman who does porn that is not a double standard or hypocritical I mean it makes sense you're probably right but I yeah be friends with someone that is porn and not date them can you be

Leila Jennerfriends instead of dating someone like can you be friends with someone that porn what's that my friend and she does porn yeah that's a different different type relationship some people are like I hate porn so much it's so bad I don't want to

Rachelbe friends with wait you can't see in any way shape or form and then we can watch this how it's a double standard can we just like agree to disagree with her on this to like it's not a double

Brian Atlasstandard but you can think it's a preference literally I know she getal moving okay here this is look this is a double standard your boyfriend okay

Brian Atlaswatches porn I'll say it for the third time if I can even articulate it because I can't speak tonight your boyfriend watches porn Okay it would be hypocritical or a double standard for him to have an issue with you watching

Brian Atlasporn or anybody watching porn yeah because he is watching porn himself but he is not dating the porn star but just because you consume a just because you

Brian Atlasconsume a product does not mean that in your dating life you are obliged to date a person who in any shape or form no

Brian Atlasyou're not not oblig to dat but oblig to have emotion what do you watch ran I watch The Walking Dead there's a bunch of zombies in that I'm not trying to a zombie son but like you walk you're not getting off to The

RachelWalking Dead are you getting off to it like you know like I make you horny but you won't date me are you getting out that's now you can understand where we're coming through you're not getting off to The Walking Dead you can't compare it to that a football team

Rachelwhatever you're not getting off to that it's a very different um thing to be watching than something you're jacking off no I reject this idea that just

Brian Atlasbecause something is sexual in nature that you you are obligated tion to to date somebody in that profession not obligated to date someone you're saying

Katiethat it's a double standard to not date somebody in that profession no no said be against just so we get this clear Mo yes to say

Madisonyou wouldn't and then you watch it it's like well then we can refr this as it would be a double standard if your boyfriend was to not appreciate porn but

Brian Atlasstill watch it okay no no no no that's Shifting The Go is Shifting the I think stated it pretty clearly it's shifting I'm not going to Lear it's cuz it's the

Dantermin it's hypocrisy versus double standard we'll explain it later but it's not even the double standard though it's it's not a double

Brian Atlasstandard let's move we're being okay I it just blows my mind that we you can like it's it's not logically consistent to God do I have to

Brian Atlasre no you don't I asking you to I I've tried I've tried guys I've tried um it's not working out okay uh let's see last note here I have I don't know if we have time for we might have a little bit of

Brian Atlastime uh you said significant others having crazy parents effing his best friends so you effed no I didn't I didn't wait so you're also when you're reading this off you're

Rachelplaying me as if like I wasn't just answering you said any crazy stories and I list all of these things and I put slashes in between all of them we usually ask if it's like any personal

Rachelcrazy stories like I know yeah yes personal like for you when we're asking you like do you have any crazy stories like do you have any personal crazy St person I was involved but it wasn't me person yes that is what I'm answering so

Rachelwhen we approach it and now we can't read it what was I don't

Danknow he's just getting he's just getting himself a little bit of water checking on checking on a couple of things of what what did you ask the the the crazy

Rachelparents best friends is um so any what was the question though of was that number you're just telling yeah you're just telling us about it that's it no but there was number nine it was a question of what he asked um but crazy

Rachelso dating stories yeah I have crazy my ex-boyfriend's parents are crazy um so their aunt and uncles and they're still messaging me two months later really for what reason like get with get

Rachelback with him no because they think I stole things from his home but um weird yeah wait effing his best friend what's the story there okay wait so this is no story based on me is this wait is this

Brian Atlasnumber nine or number 10 when you said how is it do you want to just tell the story yes or no just read I don't have story what she says the question Lally I don't have the question from me that

Brian Atlasit's typically something like okay we have there's three separate questions there's okay nine number number nine is something like do you have any crazy dating related stories or anecdotes

Brian Atlasnumber 10 is typically is there anything on the show dating related any topics that you would like to talk about would like to talk about 11th is any hot takes

Rachelrelated to dat i dating so so whichever one that was yes correct do you want to just tell the story like I don't have a story behind it if you said is it a hot take or a conversation that's I bring there's

Rachelsomething about effing his best friend is that you what happened what happened did you ever bang one of your one of your boyfriend's best friend literally never really that's a hot take that I'm curious about definitely pulling teeth

Brian AtlasSur I feel like most girls for what it's like pulling teeth okay um you don't want to talk about that one okay I don't have yeah in your pre-show information that you provided to us when we asked you these questions that you wanted that

Rachelyou said that you wanted to talk about on the show one of them is being the hottest friend okay that's also a hot take we have what is can I bring that up is it does it have to be a personal

Rachelstory am I ending the conversation like let talk about let's just talk about it why you asked me a question I answered them honestly anything I would want to talk

Rachelabout so we're asking no that's why we're asking you to talk about it I so that's a conversation of topic I don't him wait yeah like the whole panel I mean I

Brian Atlasdon't know no these are direct he from me I'm literally you provided pre-show you stop stop stop stop guys stop stop let me please just get through this you

Brian Atlasprovided pre-show information to us okay I I'm giving you a layup I'm giving you a prompt you don't need to be like Brian do you want me to talk about that how about just talk about it can you just

Racheltalk about it if I bring it up is it it was genuinely okay I I understand where you're coming from from the bottom of my heart it's more of like a panel what would we all say abouty do you have an actual story that

Billy Raylike me personally someone's best friend did you just want us to bring up the concept of that she thought she thought it was a table talk I thought I was you were asking me what we

Rachelwould about being the hottest friend what it wait does that confuse you does any anyone else have that like I don't think you can control being the hottest

Brian Atlasfriend okay just what do you mean what these are words that you wrote what do I'm not taking them back I feel like you're interpreting them and putting them out you just you just generally

Rachelwant the whole P to talk about the concept of Brian's rage quitting asked he asked he literally asked absolutely Brian just raged quit well

Danhe's out here he needs water he needs to cool down so like if I had so if I pared from all that wait what are you going to say so so like if bangs had been like I want to talk about feminism

Danoh no I would have love to talk your your subject is I want to talk about being the hottest friend not getting the whole story we just need a little bit

Rachellike context like what do you want talk about what what's thesis no no no no everything that I said is like he's like oh what would you talk about on this podcast I'm like if I had those ideas

Brian Atlasthat would be we having a five minute we move on then you keep asking I'm trying we want to talk about we just don't have the cont literally address the word don't NE it was if you had a

Brian Atlasconcept what would you talk about like that's what I wrot yeah but I think that's what we're saying so we have the concept what do we talk about concept ever been this what's the

Brian Atlascontext we want to with me yeah like what what does it mean being the hottest friend what does that mean to you what is the concept no no no please do not just let her speak

Madisonwhat does it mean to you to be well I'm not saying stress somebody get me a stress you you think you I'm trying to I'm trying to

Brian Atlasroll into this okay okay I have a question about that no no no no no watch watch check this out I'm G to ask a question every everyone's going to be silent she's going to answer when you

Rachelsay being the hottest friend what do you mean well I'm not saying I am but being the hottest friend is being the best looking friend like you want being the most being the best looking friend is that confusing you think that being the

Rachelhottest friend like I'm not asking I think I think yes I think that I think that there's a lot of Concepts and conversations that could go on about it but if you're bring up a you're the one that's supposed to

Allisonguide me right like I said these things in assumption that you would we put you on the podcast one that's getting hit on like at the bars and stuff is that what you mean I mean that could be one Avenue

Rachelfor sure yeah what do you think your friends your other friends don't get as much attention because they're not the Hott my best friend sitting next to me quite frankly beautiful she just say in general I think that this is something

Rachelthat comes up in dating is being the hottest friend and especially with my past best friendship but I mean what does that mean it means being the hottest friend I can give you a take like if I am a guy and then I

TTS Readermeet his friend and there's a hotter friend in the group I'm like damn that sucks that could be one right there rain's about to clock out for the

Leila Jennerweek out of zero Tuesday show um yeah I think that that's anything else yeah it sucks if you're not the hottest friend yeah right cuz I'm that's

Katiea fact yeah I can agree with that I can agree with that happens to be that way I love having hot friends also me they're also having hot friends who doesn't this

TTS Readeris great can we talk about hot friends in the bachelorette party the only one who could never be the hottest friend would bring up that she's the hottest

Billy Rayfriend wait I wasn't saying I was H were you referring to yourself never no okay all right I'm sitting next to the hottest friend in our friend group but

Billy Rayuh Brian yeah Dan and I have um noticed a hottest friend Theory actually when we were living in Nashville for a couple months we saw a lot of bachelorette

Billy Rayparties and if you look at the way Bachelorette ities are or are organized when they're walking down the street it's always the hottest friends in the front and they progressively get uglier

Billy Rayvalid that's and we were wondering the more confidence why that is are they trying to hide the ugly friends is it a marketing Tac they know that they're hot and I think that when hot guys are in a

Leila Jennergroup with ugly guys they're going to be more confident like it it's always the morbidly obese ones at the back I mean because you can you can act a full if you're hot and you can be in the front and be crazy but if you're ugly and acting a fool it's just not good

KI've had her bring like a guy over who had a friend that wanted to be with me but I was with the guy I'm with now and he thought that the person who was also there with us one of our other friends wasn't attractive enough to like be with

Kso they completely just flat out left so being a hot friend actually does mean a lot to to some people yeah they just blatantly left saying that they were going to go buy stuff it was like 2

Brian Atlasstill hate this topic huh I'm going deeper into my cave I'm I'm finding my power animal Ryan what's your take on being the hottest friend okay all right you can you can

Rachelwhatever your natural responses or what what do you really think I don't I thought you had some anecdote related I didn't I'm sorry that I didn't it was a good conversation I was genuinely dating podcast topic here

Brian Atlasmoving on moving on let me see you're not you're not going to answer I'm good okay I'm all right thanks for at least giving me that uh okay so last question question actually we'll do it during the we're going to just start the after

Brian Atlashours we're going to do 20 minute after hours then we're going to wrap up Nick can you hit the lights is there like a disco ball okay body count we're going to talk about body count we're going to hit up uh oh

Brian Atlasalso guys uh the the minimum I'm going to lower the minimum uh read to 20 and then

Brian AtlasTTS is set to 69 from here on out TTS is 69 read is 20 both Super Chat and streamlabs donation um okay so really quick uh body count

Leila Jennerdoes body count matter I we talk about this I have a really high body count so I usually lie about it I usually lie about my body count but I don't think it matters for a guy cuz like I mean as

Leila Jennerlong as you're as long as you're just clean i' cuz I know people with tiny body counts have had sedds and I've never had one high pull the mic all the way close to you go ahead there we go

Leila Jennerlike that that congratulations thank you anyways um yeah I think it just depends on like hygiene really but like if their body counts like 300 like that's a

Leila Jennerlittle I'm like okay maybe you're not the one but I'll still let you hit but like 300 mine's not 300 but like if someone's was I've met people that have like 300 like body counts I mean I'm

Klike important so like how do they nut yeah how can they still nut they they can still nut damn that is the question you know there's also there's like like body count like truly only

Kmatters if honestly if like you're dirty or if you're still in love with the person who you've been with before or the people or you still have intimate attraction I've always been a so my

Brian Atlasbody Count's always been High I mean I try not to do that thank you okay um moving on Good Times uh body count does

Madisonnot matter no not to body count doesn't matter Madison I do think that body count matters I feel like I used to think that it didn't you know but as I've grown older I've grown better

Madisonvalues so I do see I don't have like a like a range I don't know

Madisonokay probably like anything over 10 is extremely high really I agree with that that's really

Madisonholy I'm a that's crazy girl my double digits are higher it's that's hot really girlo I'm like damn I'm up there yeah but that's

Katieyou girl hey uh what about you what do you think um I don't care like in my partner maybe because I haven't been in the place to like care or not I don't know um I will say I'll be transparent

Allisonthat my boyfriend was a little taken back by mine at first and he got over it very quickly okay so it's good um I think body count matters um I just think it's unattractive I don't know I don't

Allisonwant to be someone that's a lot of girls okay yeah I think body count matters yes it does not even like morally but if we look at it from like

Billy Raya hormonal Factor um you get really up after a certain amount that's true that is true yeah it completely with the way that your your brain works the same way that you can do like

Dana dopamine detox because your dopamine gets attached to the wrong things so does your oxytocin and dopamine attached to sex if you constantly have sex with no intention of actually bonding with that person you're going to lose the

Leila Jennerability to bond with people with that tool but what if you have passionate sex every now and then not like hardcore but then like cuz you know there's like and then there's like passion like you know well then that's just beautiful yeah gorgeous

Madisonthank you right so I feel like another view on like why I think body count matters like if my boyfriend were to have like a very high body count I would just be thinking of all the other girls that he's you know I mean in

Katiepublic and you're like everyone around has my boyfriend thinking like I feel like it doesn't matter cuz I never had to be in that place like I never to think about it I've never been in a position like oh

Kyour body counts too high I I got endometriosis I I don't have one what you don't have sex like that girl

TTS Readercuz their almed meatball donated $69 first girl is such a strange combination of fine and Sloat double digits isn't bad but triple digits are

Leila Jennerbananas the real Mr meatball that is an amazing complim it thank you so much double digits are bad what if you had 9 good point very good point and I don't

Leila Jennerthink it's just yet but it's definitely getting up there stop it get some help the real saying it's only you guys all answer about body

Leila Jennercount if body count doesn't matter for those of you you know what's your body count I got to look at my Twitter following I like to follow star follow I

Leila Jennerfollow every porn star I actually I can look at it and tell you just I mean but you probably like civilians there honestly okay before I got into porn well okay let me say my

Leila Jennerfreshman year of college I had a 40th body count uh party so that was quite a while ago year of college it was 40 and then

Brian Atlashold on couple questions there uh how much buy your first is it a semester or oh

Leila Jennerhonestly it was February it was it was H the second semester well how never forget your 40th body count never forget you never do it's like a birthday you

Leila Jennerknow it's good in your first semester quarter whatever it was like I've always been a like it's high it's high I just love spreading this is how I spread my love like I you're my

Leila Jennerfriend I'm going to youing Jesus Christ I've never had STD in my life ever I get tested I've always gotten tested often take her to go get tested I get tested every two I've never had one

Leila JennerI I only like good-looking guys I'm not like a dirty I'm just like but anyways back to the body count fcking so wait before hold on I'm

Brian Atlasgoing to ask you a string of questions so before you even step foot on a college campus what was your body count oh honestly not that big probably like seven okay so seven going in going into

Leila Jennercollege had uh first 3 weeks of school not a lot I was busy my first my in my freshman my first part and then my second semester I was like this shit's easy like let me start because I

Leila Jennerstarted I started just guys and I was like this is so fun like I love you like this is so much fun so fresman year we I we had this contest because it was my best friend was going

Kto see if she could the entire basketball team I was going to try to every frat president so you know like how many fats were there like yeah no that's we came from a really big college town it's full of like there's a whole like there is a whole STD called and I

Kgot all my friends in these parties it was worth it we have an STD called or we we don't College it's called Raider rash it's like every single I swear to God it's like bad it

Brian Atlasgoes around yearly Andrew T what are you doing here I love him okay I actually got to send hold on I got to send this

Madisonwait so you went from 7 to 40 in the span of like one semester said February was the yeah in one semester I was a lot it was a competition and honestly I just like to and I I like to every guy I meet I like to

TTS ReaderBender the offender donated $69 never mind the Grand Canyon comment earlier she's more like Mariana Trench I sick as F what is that even the Marana trench the deepest you're talking about

Leila Jennermy vagina let's just say there's my vagina's all over dog down hallway no I have a very I have a very y'all don't understand like vaginas always they snap back and you can look at my vagina all

Leila Jennerover it's all over the internet and it's very tight so tight that I tear so easily in porn I have to take breaks there arounded me B donated $69 we should be friends but damn you're

Brian Atlasgoing to be in triple digits hey I don't think I'm in the triple digits crazy Pace I don't think I'm in the triple I I might hold on we'll do the math on that let me just pull up one more here we'll

Brian Atlascome back to our conversation um GP is about to come up here GP says welcome back Madison hope you and Frankie are good Leila IQ and common decency aside

Brian Atlassorry that it's taking a while to pop up here one sec man uh you're still in Leila IQ and common decency aside you're still a 9.4 if I was ter if I was terminally

Leila Jenneractually can you finish reading it um if I was terminally ill with a week left to live a week I'm stream life to live I would totally smash imagine it be worth the burning sensation in my final days

Leila Jennerfirst of all no burning sensation just burning Powerful Love Sensations cuz you're going to be in love with me after you this okay all right um so okay uh what

Leila Jennerabout sophomore year of college oh good lord um uh sophomore year wasn't too okay I'm going to say probably probably in a year I think I

Leila Jennerthink we got to get it up to like 67 by my junor year by before I started junior year probably around 67 junior year so

Leila Jenner67 yeah yeah okay junior year senior year um oh my God senior year I wasn't a lot because I kind of already everyone I wanted to right when did you start college I I started

Leila Jennercollege I I got kicked out of my house at 16 and I went through this program like graduated school early who whoa whoa wait wa wait wait hold on hold on so you you had a senior year in college yeah I graduated in may this may wo wo

Brian Atlaswo W okay so wait wait wait wait wait wait hold on so you're saying wait hold on I don't know if chat I don't know if you guys have caught on to this yeah you

Brian Atlasstarted college at 16 your freshman year of college you 40 dudes yes at 16 I 40 dudes I mean when you're living in a college town graduating that young you

Kfeel grown like I thought it was we come from a it was kind of normal there it was normal there it was redneck it was it was a redne town wasn't doing that I wasn't having sex like that anyway let me get out of

Leila Jennerthese um nasty numbers let's get about over the 18 anyway so uh when I was I don't know if you caught that guys but anyways yeah but you know um senior year let's talk Senior Year let's talk about senior year okay senior year oh God this

Leila Jenneris a this is taken I think I stopped counting at senior year um but definitely okay I wasn't okay so the thing is I all the guys I wanted to fluck I'm from a small town so it kind of stayed I kind of just started re

Leila Jennerredoing them so it kind of stayed around 60es really count no it doesn't count it doesn't so I kind of stayed around like 60 something but then I got into

Leila Jennerporn and that was probably another 50 up okay so you're you're over 100 well triple digits the math the math do be mathing the math do be mathing but my

Leila Jennervagina's amazing like look it up wait how old are you right now I'm 20 oh okay yeah just wondering men stay in the house you're it's going to go up in porn like any porn star has a high body count like you know mine just was a little bit

Brian Atlasearlier we cannot allow the Overton window to shift to it okay this kind of thing being acceptable but okay um okay so but I mean in porn like you're going to have

Madisona high body count can you read this if she has more than two oh sorry if she's had more that than two bodies she's for the streets who in the Blue Moon wants to use up

Madisonblank blank blank blank the streets she's for the city you agree don't you Brian and Dan I never said I wasn't for the streets I never said I wasn't I definitely

Brian Atlasam no I mean feel free to voice your I love the streets um I I love the streets yo Brian for president I I can get behind that I

Kguess um so okay total body count over 100 cool what about you probably 12 if even that um 12 okay that's it MADD I thought you said only the

Brian Atlaspeople that said body count doesn't matter answer you've answered it before so if you want they already know what it is eight okay 11 and I'm in a threeyear

Katierelationship so you can kind of do the math but you said you said that your boyfriend when you told him I guess you told him 10 yeah that yeah he was surprised he was like whoa it was a little much for him he has like very

Brian Atlashigh standards for himself which is like part of the reason I love him so do you have a higher body count than he does yes yeah what's are you his first no no no no no

Katieno no no no he a virgin no no no no he's at like a either half or a little less than half okay so you're more so so yeah

Brian Atlasbut he got over it so well props do you thank you for answering appreciate it um okay I'm under 10 for sure under 10 I'm fully not disclosing that thank you

Billy Raythough plus or minus 100 not disclosing okay all right uh Billy I mean do you want to I think it's crazy

Billy Rayto present yourself as a sexual object on a stream to the world I'm down for it they arounded me for

Leila Jennerdonated it's like my job account is almost impressive din a whole town two is definitely way to strict 10 isn't even bad either thank you for the

Brian Atlasvalidation thank you for my impressive goal notice 10's a little iffy 10's a little it's a little iffy you know really 10 two two is like look IDE look

Brian Atlasit's just an ideal thing right ideally the girl has a very low body count or is a virgin yeah but when you're 20 10 is actually crazy like you all think that that's crazy I would think if you're

Kone person a month like a different person a month for crazy it's not crazy anymore I've had a guy tell me his body count was 76 right after we had

KSE and that was the most turn off I haveing attractive the way does matter I will say this yeah don't tell me right after we have

Brian Atlasas far as all the body counts here multip by three and that's the real number you know what I mean just saying God thr out there all right let me do a

Leila Jennercouple chats um yo doc vas Lila can you read this Leila stop using love and fra synon you do not know love look at the

Leila Jennerterm AOS Agape stor G and filia you might learn something what you are doing is medic medicating medicating life pain with sex not the same thing as love I

Leila Jennergenuinely Billy and Dan are awesome y'all love and love y'all and pray for y'all Brian I hope to see Chase back sorry I'm didn't mean to grab my man

Brian Atlasvoid three God that was really fast men avoid 304 grifters like tank top wait who there's a lot of girls in tank top so I'm not sure who this is here I'll

Brian Atlaspull it up really quick uh panel what are the responsibilities of a man and a woman in a relationship start with Leila we're gonna have to be really quick with these because we do have to wrap up here pretty soon responsibilities of a man I mean I want quick answers if you're

Leila Jennergoing to answer I want my man to take care of me like you be Daddy like I'll be like your SL mic please like I want my man to take care of me like just be Daddy like you know like just be Dy answers 10 seconds was a question I couldn't read the responsibilities of a

Kman oh the responsibilities of a man are to take care of the women in a way of actually helping progress constantly and not pushing everything to the women itself or herself oh God be Daddy for

Katiereal okay well I a little of a word salad but okay yeah I like the saying men provide the house woman provide the home that's yeah that's exactly what I was saying that was my I just think as long as you're each other's peace and

Billy Rayhe's your protector like personally yeah going off what she said that was my answer you support each other loyalty valid providing the feminine

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