BANGS STORMS OFF?! (RAGE QUIT) | Dating Talk #101

Date: 2023-09-18
Duration: 4h 59m

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00TTS Reader(audience)
SPEAKER_01Dan(guest)
SPEAKER_02Rachel(guest)
SPEAKER_03K(guest)
SPEAKER_04Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_05Anay(guest)
SPEAKER_06Kiki(guest)
SPEAKER_07Leila Jenner(guest)
SPEAKER_08Billy Ray(guest)
SPEAKER_09Katie(guest)
SPEAKER_10Allison(guest)
SPEAKER_11Madison(guest)

Key Moments

00:02:23
IntroLeila Jenner intro: 20yo porn star / OnlyFans, stage name, from Texas.

I'm Leila Jenner I'm 20 and I'm a porn [star]

00:05:38
RelationshipLeila reveals she is legally married to a 21yo Mormon bishop candidate in Utah while openly dating content creator Zera. Marriage is open/informal. Panel debates credibility of the story.

I have a husband he's Mormon but I'm dating Zera

02:40:35
ControversyAllison states that being born with a penis means you are a man; frames this as biological fact during a feminism/trans discussion.

when you are biologically born with a vagina you're a girl and when you're born with a penis I'm out

02:40:35
Key MomentAnay ("Bangs") storms off set after Allison's statement about biological sex, calling it transphobic. Brian confirms: "That was our first bangs walkoff."

I'm out [exits]

02:42:33
QuoteBrian confirms the walkoff on-air: "That was our first bangs walkoff."

all right that was our first bangs walkoff

03:00:00
Key MomentRachel reveals she has a 4.5-year platonic male mentor who has paid her >$10k this year alone; panel debates whether this constitutes sugar babying.

it's more than 10,000 correct yes okay

03:09:00
Key MomentRachel explains she broke up with 6-year boyfriend ~3 months before a Sweden trip to visit first love; admits the trip was a catalyst for the breakup.

this trip gave me the out I'm like I'm going to go and I'm going to be with my best friend... there's a likely chance I'm going to have interest in him

03:59:57
QuoteK reveals she used seeking arrangements to fund an entire Texas road trip by doing 2-minute FaceTime calls for ~$500 each.

all I did was FaceTime and like be like Hi how are you doing and then they... I got that entire trip paid for

04:04:06
IntroAnay returns to the show after her walkoff (~4:06 mark).

she's here

04:05:27
QuoteLeila describes sugar daddy income: ~$300/date in Texas, up to $2k for a movie day, ~$4k/month total at peak, while attending nursing school.

I would say like maybe 5,000 for one guy... in one week like I hung out with like three at the most

04:18:00
QuoteBrian asks Leila about body count; she reveals she started college at 16 and had 40 partners by end of freshman year.

you started college at 16 your freshman year of college you [had] 40 dudes yes

04:19:00
QuoteLeila tracks her body count through college: 7 entering, 40 by end of freshman year, ~67 by start of junior year, then ~60 personal + ~50 in porn = 100+.

freshman year we had this contest... sophomore year probably got up to 67 by junior year... then I got into porn and that was probably another 50

04:38:15
Key MomentLeila offers oral sex to host Brian Atlas on air; Brian deflects with humor. SPEAKER_03 (K) intervenes. Creates prolonged comedic exchange.

I give myself six I think you're 10... this girl trying to gas me up so she can give me a BJ

Topics Discussed

00:00:04
Guest introductions and relationship statuses

Guests introduce themselves; Brian goes around table on relationship status. Leila reveals she is legally married to a 21yo Mormon bishop candidate while dating "Zera"; story debated for credibility.

00:18:20
Sex work, OnlyFans, and social shame

Discussion of OnlyFans, porn, and whether sex work should face social shame. Billy Ray argues for returning social stigma to sex work; Leila, Anay, and K defend their work.

02:00:00
Sugar daddies and seeking arrangements

Panel discusses experiences with sugar daddies and seeking arrangements. Leila had 3 at once; made ~$4k/month in Texas. K did 2-min FaceTime calls for $500 each. Rachel describes her long-term platonic male mentor who paid her sporadically.

02:20:00
Dating dynamics and who has it easier (men vs women)

Brian and Dan argue women have dating on "easy mode" due to sexual optionality. Panel debates Bumble, rejection rates, group project analogy for dating initiative.

02:40:00
Feminism, wage gap, and trans rights

Heated exchange on feminism and wage gap statistics. Allison states biological sex is determined at birth; Anay calls it transphobic and storms off the set at ~2:44:35.

02:44:30
Bangs (Anay) walkoff and aftermath

Brian and panel discuss Anay's departure. Dan argues she stormed off because her feminist arguments were being debunked. Leila defends Anay. Anay returns at ~4:06.

02:53:00
Rachel's sugar daddy and 6-year relationship story

Rachel explains her 4.5-year platonic male mentor arrangement. Panel debates whether it qualifies as sugar babying. Rachel then describes breaking up with 6-year boyfriend ~3 months before a Sweden trip to see first love.

03:15:00
Women keeping in contact with exes while in relationships

Discussion of Rachel's situation; Dan and Brian argue women often line up next relationship before officially ending the current one.

04:18:00
Body count and its effects

Panel debates whether body count matters. Leila reveals her count: ~7 entering college, 40 by end of freshman year, ~67 by junior year, then stagnated ~60 personal + ~50 in porn = 100+. K explains endometriosis limiting hers. Madison describes her frat president competition freshman year.

04:52:00
Self-ratings

Stiffler chat triggers self-rating round. Madison: 8, Allison: 9.5, Rachel: 4-5 (undecided), Dan: 7.5, K: 6, Brian: 7.5-8. Brian notes Anay would have said 10.

Transcript

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01:55:35
Racheland my dad's still wanted to offer me money that's obviously not what's going on but it would be the same thing why do you think he's doing it um because he cares about me we have a genuine Rel relationship I've learned a lot from him
01:55:46
Brian Atlasum I'm grateful for him it's a it's mutually beneficial in no sexual orientation or anything like that hold on before before I have you respond to that I want to just go around the table on this and we will we will uh focus a
01:55:59
Brian Atlaslittle more on the sugar baby sugar daddy thing um I want to get everyone in on this so have you ever had going around the table here uh sugar daddy or had some sort of arrangement and have
01:56:10
Brian Atlasyou been on there's a website called seeking I guess it used to be called seeking Arrangement have you have you used a website have you ever had a sugar daddy what if you did what was the arrangement that you had I did like I
01:56:23
Leila Jennersaid like I said when I was in nursing school like I had to stop doing my shifts and I did like only fans but I mainly did seeking arrangements and like these guys like where I'm from like rent was like $500 a month so like when I would hang out with them like they would
01:56:36
Leila Jennergo get coffee with me or something and give me like $300 and just like and I don't know they just like genuinely enjoyed a lot of them were divorced and just like wanted a pretty girl to like act like they're into them and yeah they
01:56:47
Leila Jennerwould just what pay me for date but I wouldn't them you just like kind of I would them like if I got to know them like I thought they were hot you would them for money I mean if I them and like they threw me some
01:57:00
Leila Jennerhundreds I'd be like whatever but like I would think I like actually like older men so like I would I didn't them I didn't any of them but like there's a few of them that like were lowkey kind of hot but they didn't want a relationship like that they just wanted
01:57:13
Brian Atlasto they just wanted to take me out and like feel nice I guess so your base rate for like a Starbucks date would be 300 um they would like vary honestly like I was down for like to go like I wouldn't
01:57:24
Leila Jennersay base rate but like usually they would pay no not a 20 no but they usually would pay me around like 300ish average can say like I know like but here I know they would
01:57:36
Brian Atlaspay like so much more but oh this was back in Texas okay in like a small town it's kind of nice no I don't do it anymore okay um what's the most you've ever been paid for like a one time one
01:57:48
Leila Jennertime one guy paid me 2K just to like watch movies with him all day no physical contact no no we would like we were like cuddling but we
01:57:57
Leila Jennerweren't no okay 2000 to just okay um and this was before you started doing o correct this no no no I was doing o during this but it wasn't like
01:58:09
Brian Atlaspopping I was just doing it for like R this was at 18 or 19 what a this was like 19 is 18ish maybe late 18 but did you start getting sugar daddies prior to doing o no it's was kind of on the same
01:58:21
Brian Atlastime same time okay yeah I think I started o like the day I turned 18 so like and so you had a couple 300 dates did you have any repeat customers yeah of course they would take me to lunch
01:58:31
Leila Jennerlike every week like yeah okay so if what's the most in total that you would say one guy spent on you oh God I don't
01:58:40
Leila Jennereven know too um I don't even know like I don't even know I don't know if you had to estimate I mean 5,000 10,000
01:58:51
Leila Jennermore than 10,000 well okay repeat I would get kind of bored so I would say like maybe 5,000 for one guy I think I hung out with him
01:59:00
Brian Atlaslike six or seven times and you were did you have multiple sugar daddies at once yeah what was the most amount of sugar daddies that you had at one time I mean I would just kind of go like eat lunch
01:59:13
Leila Jennerwith whoever wanted to go like hang out with me so like maybe at the like in one week like I think I hung out with like three at the most like a week if I like really like had time what uh if you had
01:59:25
Brian Atlasto total up everything from the multiple different sugar daddies that you saw in a month how much are we how much do you think you you were making from the sugar daddies I would say I once I got to like once I got to like four grand like I
01:59:39
Leila Jennerwould stop cuz I was in nursing school so all I cared about was like rent and like paying for like stuff for my dogs and like that was it so I I didn't really need to go overboard like I just wanted to like pay for rent and like go to school
01:59:50
Brian Atlasmaking you said 4, from your various different just R like that yeah okay it wasn't too hard to make if you had wanted to make more
02:00:01
Brian Atlaswithout without doing anything physical but if you amped up how many times you would go get dinner or go get coffee make as much as I want do you do you think you could make more than 10 you could have made more than 10,000 yeah
02:00:13
Leila Jennerand then that was in Texas you're saying here in California you could make I I could make more but I make more doing what I do now so like there's sure but I mean if I wanted to like I would okay um if I didn't I don't know
02:00:25
Leila Jennerwould you get gifts too or just yeah they would give me gifts but actually I get way more gifts now than I did when I had suar dad you get gifts yeah Amazon wish list stuff like that yeah sure uh
02:00:37
Anaybangs what about you um I've never had a sugar daddy I've never been on seeking Arrangements but I might look into it now you should you should I think I should any guys in Santa Barbara area you told us Story one time about like
02:00:50
Brian Atlasyou were on your way here and then the guys offered to pay your gas money do you have any other stories like that where just like random stranger here you go here's a favor here's some money type
02:01:01
Anayof thing yeah like if I'm like at the give us give us one or two anecdotes on that um like if I'm at the farmers market and then I see some pretty flowers or something and the I will be like oh just keep it oh and then
02:01:13
Anayactually when I guy who works there yeah or when I was babysitting I would always go into this one burrito okay I would always go into this one burrito place and I would always have the kids in the stroller and they'd be like oh is are these your kids and I'd
02:01:26
Anaybe like no I'm just the babysitter and they'd be like oh well you're the most beautiful babysitter I've ever seen and then they would give me fre burritos and then they would give candy to the kids
02:01:35
Anaythat I was taking care of so yeah I've gotten a lot of sweet gestures I always I feel like I I feel like I radiate really good energy when I'm out in public so people so people like
02:01:47
Anaynaturally like come to me and it's so weird because I feel I feel like I almost manifested like that one time that one time when um what's it called when I when the guy paid for my gas and
02:02:00
Anaylike asked me to hang out with him and his um his nephew I was like oh that would be so funny if like something like that kind of happened not like if they like paid for my gas but I was kind of thinking that before I like even went there I was like oh it would be nice if
02:02:12
Brian Atlassomebody paid for my gas and it ended up happening that's awes so I feel like I yeah I feel like I manifested it that's some good energy what's what's that called there's the secret there's like it's but um the uh manifesting
02:02:24
Brian Atlasthe law of manifestation yeah the art of attraction or the law of ATT yeah um well I mean there's some like okay then well there it's not like you're putting out things into the universe and like
02:02:35
Brian Atlasthe universe is rewarding you I don't think I think I think it has more to do with like your mindset if you have a positive affectation that's gonna manifest itself in ways that are beneficial to you like if you just
02:02:48
Anayanyways um so you have you said you had a good positive disposition is that what you said yeah I feel like I when I'm like out in public like I feel like I'm always smiling I'm always like happy I'm
02:02:59
Brian Atlaslike making conversations with people is it was earlier you said you're she's against men you're against why did I say that earlier in the conversation you're like yeah I'm kind of against men right
02:03:10
Anaynow watch it back I I remember you saying I I remember saying it I remember saying it why I've just been dealing with some sassy men recently okay we'll come back to that later okay so no
02:03:21
Kseeking what about you any seeking sugar daddies oh yeah I actually have like were you on seeking Yeah so basically um it was actually the time of my life and not too long ago I was on seeking
02:03:33
Karrangements with her and we were in Texas and when I tell you all I did was go seeking arrangements and asked them to FaceTime me for 2 minutes I got my entire trip to from my hometown to
02:03:45
KDallas to Austin to San Antonio back to Austin and then San Marcos for party back up to Dallas for a photo shoot and back to our hometown that was a two we trip that was a solid sentence you put
02:03:54
Ktogether there thank impr I'm a very well spoken woman but anyways um I got that entire trip paid for and all I did was FaceTime and like be like Hi how are you doing and then they they're all from
02:04:07
TTS ReaderLa too which was crazy I didn't ever expect to be living out here wait so you say you do two minute hold on I'll come back I donated $100 from her store
02:04:19
TTS Readerbut she is a layer I am not a stalker has no feelings and she has issues I was her sweet guy but then she started telling me that I am a stalker because I knew things about her she shared them on
02:04:31
Kher lives no she didn't you found out her government name and you also found out our address without it being known and you send us personal gifts and then you try to find it out through my only fans so if you could kindly stop it
02:04:43
Kwould be well appreciated I blocked you and cheated too thank you keep donating money but but don't talk just stop talking about her thank you yeah also you like if if you like how did you find out her government name if
02:04:55
Kyou are a like okay let's move on let's move on um okay so uh you said you do these two-minute facetimes yeah I would and I would H hang up fast but they would have to pay me for like a certain
02:05:06
Kamount of time and then I'd be like oh sorry I got to do this and we'd be in the Airbnb already and then we'd find another Airbnb like it was honestly really really fun well how much would
02:05:17
Kyou get paid for the 2minute about like $500 $500 for two-minute phone call these were men that like really like men that lived in very very big houses they would Tred and flaun it and they would
02:05:28
Brian Atlasshow their closets like I cared like I don't care about what you do like I just wanted to get that trip paid for cuz at the time I was I was young um so okay you did the two-minute phone calls for
02:05:39
Brian Atlas$500 did you do any like iners no nothing in even just like how she was doing like it was there wasn't any hooking up it was just no I would would you send pictures would they ask for
02:05:52
Kpictures send me feed pcks back on we I'm just a very platonic person that's guys with the foot fetishes yeah you don't no I am I'm a very platonic person I can keep it that way I'm very good at making intellectual conversations in
02:06:04
Brian Atlassome men actually like that what's the okay so kind of my similar line of questioning to her uh how many
02:06:13
Kuh what's the most that one guy paid you total like I'm sure you had a regular 00 no I've gotten 2,000 from one total
02:06:24
Kfrom everything that whole trip like that one man that yeah so there's a one wait so there's a one time $2,000 payment it was like over the span of the couple days and he would just keep
02:06:36
Brian Atlassending it so the most the most any one guy in total has ever spent it would be a thousand 2,000 1,000 1,000s plural no
02:06:47
Brian Atlasjust 1,000 1,000 you mean at one no but I'm asking like total is there a guy who spent total 10,000 for example oh Jesus no and I wouldn't accept that I don't need that help I would go get a job I worked at
02:07:00
Brian AtlasSonic for 2 years I worked at a nursing home as a dishwasher for six months if a guy hold on just to be clear so you don't have any problem asking for $500 for two minutes to have a FaceTime but if a guy was like I just want to give
02:07:12
Kyou 10K You' turn it down well first of all where are you getting that money second of all where like what what what I background check on where every single dollar comes from you don't know how
02:07:23
Klike bad money laundering can get though especially ghetto City like a very very very very very ghetto City so what if it was only a $2 donation clearly it wasn't laundered oh clearly not they're not
02:07:35
Kgoing to spend the $2 that they just stole from somebody on me okay so if it's too much there's a a concern about money you don't take it after a certain amount because you feel bad at that point I do I I I still don't I don't even ask my family for money I can't
02:07:48
Keven ask her for gas money even though I drive her everywhere and I'm like um do do you think I could like and she's like I'll just like stop asking me just I'll send it to you all right um and how many sugar daddies did you have at one
02:08:00
Brian Atlastime um two that's the most really okay what about you no any see were you on seeking has a guy ever just like be boring but like no it's okay that's fun it's not
02:08:13
Katieboring it's very respectable please for the love of Lord It's not boring I wish could Rel I I never have I haven't really had the thought has a guy ever SED for you
02:08:23
Brian Atlashow about that Define like what do you mean like maybe one of these First Dates where you're kind of on the fence about the guy and he takes you to like go get real expensive Sushi or some like that
02:08:35
Katiespends a lot of money on the first date no honestly but I think it's also because like I don't know I started dating Jared when I was very young so is
02:08:46
TTS ReaderNick it wasn't like I donated $100 her Amazon wish list had her real name I told her to change it her address went live and they showed her apartment
02:08:58
TTS Readercomplex while she was drunk I asked her before I sent a personal gift on her of unless she was not the person who responded to her of our apartment complex actually doesn't have the name
02:09:08
Brian Atlasof it on it which is crazy okay all right there you have it um Sor kind of getting a little sused out by I told you not comment on that
02:09:19
Allisonyeah uh no sugar daddies I didn't even know of that website no I haven't had anything like that have you ever had a guy s for you I mean yeah like take me out to dinner and stuff but like I've
02:09:31
Allisonnever they've never given me money or gifts like anything expensive no any gift worth having no I'm kidding
02:09:44
Brian Atlasboring me what do we what do we have the Billy R oh oh you didn't answer well the whole thing about her right about me wait the sugar baby the whole sugar baby
02:09:54
Racheloh yeah okay um yeah but I have a very definitive line I I think it's very misconstrued but so but did uh he was just asking all the girls about their experiences with it how much uh so
02:10:07
Rachelyou're okay you would meet them in person or like yeah I met him strictly through business strictly and there's no sexual anything involved it's literally a man yes he is old than me yes he owns
02:10:19
Rachela company and gives me advice on business on when I'm having a bad day if we chat it's almost like an uncle and that that still supports me just in some ways
02:10:31
Rachelfinancially it's not all the time it's not because I put out it's not because I do anything it's genuinely she's a good guy wait so a couple questions on that Sugar bab I'm still confused but by definition that is a sugar baby by definition it is I just think he's a
02:10:44
Danvery good guy I'm still confused is it just a nice guy who you met who then decided he'd like to help you out with things and when you show up he pays for
02:10:54
Danthings or is this a stated official sugar daddy sugar baby relationship I I see I don't know because by definition essentially it would be sugar baby if
02:11:04
Rachelyou look online it would be but it's someone that I met through business and I've conversed with them I've talked to them we built a relationship and eventually they're like I would like to help you um like chase your dreams or do
02:11:16
Rachelthe things that you want to do um or get these experience for like um he paid for a seminar for me that I was like this would be something that would be beneficial for me in work you it was
02:11:27
Karrange nobody planned it if you decided to not have these very intellectual conversations with you or or if you with him and you decided to not be there as much for him would he still be offering
02:11:38
Rachelthis money if I decided not to have not to be as close not to be as close I don't know because that would be dependent on the relationship and that's not how the relationship is ship essentially it's just like a platonic relationship then
02:11:50
Brian Atlasit's not really sugar babing at that point he's a really good guy by definition it is but I don't think I'm doing any I think it's the definition if it's a if I don't think trying to
02:12:01
Brian Atlascategorize whether you're a sugar baby or not is really the ultimate thing here ultim ultimately you you have a guy who's paying you money yes um how long have you known him for how long has he
02:12:12
Brian Atlasbeen paying you money oh it's got to be 4 and a half years now 4.5 years and is it like well let's not let's give or
02:12:20
Brian Atlastake yeah okay uh is he and his payments have been like what monthly or no no just um here and there here and there
02:12:30
Rachelyeah dependent on where I'm at where I'm at and what I need and what he thinks I need that's sweet he's like he's literally like a father but isn't related to me in any way and looks out
02:12:42
Brian Atlasfor me makees sure I'm okay and says if you need money money here here's a question um yeah from the moment that you met him how soon after meeting him did he start paying you
02:12:52
Brian Atlasmoney um is it immediately like 9 months nine months CRA so for that first month period what was the context of the Friendship Association um I ask him all
02:13:05
Rachelthe questions this person owns a business that I won't name but um a very successful business and I um I went to school for business so I would ask him questions I would ask him um all sorts
02:13:16
Rachelof things about business and what I should do what I could do his past experiences and this person was kind enough to take me under his wing and
02:13:28
Rachelhelp me does it occur to you that he has any romantic interest in you is it possible I going to go out on a limb and say that like I think has he expressed any yes a lot of that I would
02:13:40
Rachelno he has not expressed it but I'm mean I mean I don't think he looks at me and as like you gave opportunity he would probably take it up m but I yeah but I think he knows where like I stand and I have the boundaries that I'm like it's not going to work
02:13:53
Brian Atlassure you're double my age if you're speak you got to do into the mic um so okay you've known him for 4.5 years it started out as friends he from time to
02:14:03
Racheltime P have you ever requested money what does request look like let's be real I don't know hey can you spot me
02:14:11
Brian Atlas300 no so every time he just no he's just like so okay just so so he's paid you multiple times yes yes so he's just
02:14:21
Brian Atlaslike hey can I give you money no not at all go ahead more like there has to be an exchange of I'll let you come in here in just a sec Billy there H you have to give him your your
02:14:34
Brian Atlasvenmo your how does he pay you cash app venmo Z direct deposit he okay so somehow that conversation had to uh
02:14:43
Billy Raytranspire yeah so that doesn't just magically go a couple things it it was probably if I if I'm guessing correctly it was probably along the lines of you were saying that maybe you were going through a time where you were struggling
02:14:56
Rachela bit and he offered to help was it an offering to help based on your situation literally no literally well let's let's be clear so financially struggling no but um with okay if we rewind my parents
02:15:08
Rachelgot divorced I was in college I moved to online college just because I could then be there um physically emotionally to support my mom and um he he was kind of there through that time and then I was
02:15:21
Rachellike I have dreams like I have goals I was in I went to the University of Hawaii I was going to school I moved back parents got divorced I moved um from La back there to help my mom out um and be of support and then he was you
02:15:34
Rachelknow I was like well I can't do ABC anymore um not because I was financially struggling I mean it's always been fine but he was just like well can I do this for you and I'm like absolutely like you were saying if someone's going to offer
02:15:46
Billy Rayyou 500 vers 10 Grand I'm going to take the five or the 10 like I'm not going to so what is his situation like does he have like a family kids what is his and
02:15:56
Rachelum he has a business and I don't want to speak on that because I feel like it could here okay I got I have a couple more questions when he does pay you when he does pay you typically how much does
02:16:07
Rachelhe pay you various range depends do you want to know like the least and the most sure so like 200 to like four grand at once okay um if you had to estimate I don't know
02:16:19
Rachelif you keep track of this how much total has he paid you I I don't know all right more than I would keep track of at this point um how
02:16:29
Brian Atlasmuch has he paid you this year I don't want to answer it sorry but but a good amount a good amount of money 10,000 more than okay more than 10 grand for sure this year
02:16:40
Brian Atlasthis year do you okay total do you think it's more than 100,000 no no chance do you think it's between 50 and 100 ,000 you're really going to work at this no I'm not I'm not going to okay Devil's ad devil's advocate here well do you think
02:16:53
Rachelit's in that range I'm going to stop there that's all I have to say I'm I'm not going to I'm not going to say anything else but this year it's more than 10,000 correct yes okay
02:17:04
Billy Rayso we can okay you've known him for four point let's say it's over 50,000 let's just say that I'm just going to assume that why would can I say something yes please so typically what I see with men
02:17:15
Billy Rayum and how old he roughly like you don't I also don't want to say that it's not fair yeah I'll talk on my on my established he seems to have good a good business I'm guessing I just want to say
02:17:27
Billy Rayin their 40s so I'm guessing this man probably had a family at some point in his life I don't know if they're still together but if you're scared to speak on it I'm going to guess he never had a family um well he never had kids I'm
02:17:38
Billy Raygoing to say that okay so there was a relationship at some point in his life and the fact that he is giving you money to kind of listen to him talk about about things that he's passionate about
02:17:49
Billy Rayum leads me to believe that the woman in his life was not interested in hearing him out ever so he's willing to give money just to have somebody to have somebody listen to him and that's a
02:18:02
Billy Raycommon theme I see um amongst a lot of men and it's it's it's really sad loneliness a lot yeah it's loneliness wait am I am I a Vic is do I play the victim role or am I like I'm no you're
02:18:12
Brian Atlasactually extremely privileged but um and uh so my thought and I didn't want to comment until everybody answered on this
02:18:22
Brian Atlasbut this is exactly how women have dating on easy mode no no no you guys have you guys have dating and on frankly life on easy mode we do it does yes I
02:18:34
Brian Atlasagree you guys don't have to sleep with any of these men and they're throwing thousands of dollars at you every month just for existing now there are there
02:18:44
Brian Atlasare sugar mamas there are sugar mamas out there but it's exceedingly rare and I doubt that they are supporting their their sugar babies to the same degree as
02:18:56
Brian Atlashow a lot of men will support their sugar babies um I almost feel like sugar mamas probably do it in almost a begrudging way like like it's a begrudging dynamic agree with that I
02:19:07
Brian Atlascould never see myself doing that I would never in any never in any case y'all have dating and honestly life on easy mode because I think it's just like I wouldn't say but I also have a lot of
02:19:19
Rachelrespect for you have dating on easy mode it's it's yeah women have I mean if you have to admit that just you have to admit it's easier for for saying you feel what do you mean if wait let them go guys please stop the cross talk go
02:19:32
Brian Atlasahead I was going to say I just don't see really for dating to be honest like are you saying like we can get any guy we want is that that's that's not what I'm saying okay then what are you saying well I'll explain it after she goes go ahead what did you have to say yeah you
02:19:45
Ksaying that we have life and dating on easy mod we really do I could be scrubbing dishes again but no I sit in my bed yes all right there we go okay
02:19:56
Kall right she agrees with me I guess um yeah y'all kind of got eing 100 wow okay I'm surprised that thank you for
02:20:03
Anayvalidating my I validate your recruit mode difficulty on okay um so okay so you asked why it's yeah like elaborate a little bit more on The
02:20:16
Brian AtlasDating let me ask you a question question have you ever you were you're currently in college right think about high school so I want everybody here to picture I'm sure all of you have had a situation where you've had a group project right remember like group
02:20:29
Brian Atlasprojects in high school or group projects in college now I don't know where you fell in that group dynamic but typically in those scenarios there's going to be one two let's say it's four people right there's going to be at
02:20:41
Brian Atlasleast one person that doesn't do jack in the group project you know what I'm talking about yes yes that's kind of like how dating is
02:20:52
Brian Atlasbetween men and women y'all don't do Jack at the beginning right I think later on you start doing more we audition first they audition second yeah we basically have to carry and this is
02:21:04
Brian Atlasalso I mean I've made this video game analogy there's a term in video games called carrying where one person sucks at the video game you backpack them yeah you backpack them you're like you're carrying them to the victory I think
02:21:16
Brian Atlasthat's kind of how dating is typically because men we have to okay we have to take all the initiative the B the burn of performance is on us the burn of initiative is on us we have to if if we're meeting let's say we're on a dating app we have to send the first
02:21:29
Brian Atlasmessage we have to plan the first date we have to set up the date we have to pay for the date we have to make bumble well okay the thing with Bumble though the thing with Bumble it's a very token level of initiative because the women will send the first message and
02:21:41
Brian Atlastypically it's not very way you can connect with them it's hey it's a verbal they'll say hey it's such a like Bumble is such a joke because the girl says hey and then they
02:21:53
Brian Atlassh immediately shift the conversational Duty and burden onto the man because if I just respond hey back e that's it like
02:22:04
Brian Atlasthe girl's not going to even though she has to send the first message it's again it's very token so what you just said you just said saying sorry you go oh well okay and just to finish this this
02:22:15
Brian Atlasis her point so I want to let her finish off Point really quick and then when it comes to uh moving things forward the guy's going to have to close the the physical distance Gap he's going to have to go for the first kiss he's going to have to move things forward sexually
02:22:27
Brian Atlashe's going to okay how can I smoothly like hey you want to come back to my place that sort of thing escalate things towards sex oh if she's not down okay cool um and then wash Rin repeat second
02:22:38
Brian Atlasdate move things forward sexually and you know depends on how things go but he's going to have to initiate on all those steps goe a little different though I with with my first boyfriend I
02:22:50
Brian Atlasmade the move on him I kissed him cuz he was a little bit of a weenie so I feel like I had to make the first move I wanted anything to go for I would say actually that and it's this is interesting and I don't know maybe some people might disagree hold on let me
02:23:02
Brian Atlasjust finish really quick on this point is I think with like younger relationships when the obviously the girl is going to encounter a guy who he himself like we're talking like high
02:23:13
Brian Atlasschool relationships or maybe like uh College like first first with dating sex relationships uh the guy might be a little he doesn't have the requisite experience if you're dating a guy who's
02:23:24
Brian Atlasyour age he might not have the requisite experience of having dated other women so I think in those scenarios the women might actually be take a bit more initiative but once I think you've had
02:23:34
Danenough experience like women really aren't initiating I feel like I am you just don't know me okay what you what you just said about um I'm trying to remember exactly what it was oh you said
02:23:46
Danyour you're going to say hey if he says hey back well especially if there is um you have your little like cards in there that describe you and no I understand like one of them but he has them too and you didn't use those so here's what I'm
02:23:59
Dansaying no I don't say hey though you said hey so whatever it is it's a simple hello you you are now permitted to talk to me okay and now the man has to come up with something else if it's not
02:24:11
Dancreative if it's not stimulating you're like ew no because you have a million other options is waiting for you right there on the app the guy sends hey you send hey back he's going to be like oh okay so like what do I say now he's
02:24:24
Danstill thinking about what's next in the conversation he's not icked out by the fact that you just said hey back he expects it cuz he knows that he has to be the one who's impressing you up front this is why we're saying early in the
02:24:35
Racheldating process women have it on easy mode we have to do everything would you guys wait I I completely agree I'm on the exact same page but would you guys have it any other way like if you could what way would it be well it's kind of
02:24:47
Brian Atlasyou kind of like it that's kind of your Vibe well I actually think so the The Leverage that women have early on is
02:24:55
Brian Atlasinsane okay so I mean you would would I have would I have it any other way just so basically like if we were to flip roles like women just wanted to F no you just want like even playing fields so
02:25:08
Rachellike I could ask you to go to better you could ask me or like I could ask you to dinner and spend a bunch of money and that would be like status quo or what like what what way would you guys have it I don't know cuz I agree with what you're saying but like what what's your
02:25:22
Brian Atlasmindset on I'll let you come in just let me just respond to her so my view is is that you take an average woman so women have far greater sexual optionality than men do correct so you can take basically
02:25:33
Brian Atlaslike an average or even below average looking girl and she has the equivalent sexual optionality of an aess celebrity so I'm talking musician I'm talking
02:25:44
Brian Atlasactor I'm talking professional athletes proven in like like experiments on dating I think it's also just like Common Sense well any any girl can if you were so inclined you could hop on a dating
02:25:57
Brian Atlasapp you could go to the club you could go to a bar you could go to gas St and like a dude you could three dudes a day the amount of men who could
02:26:07
Brian Atlassleep with three new women a day is like it's not even it's not even 1% it's like .1% an average so an average woman has the sexual
02:26:17
Rachelof again like the top of men but you just have to basically exist how would you have it okay those are the stats I can respect those how would you have it what would be your
02:26:28
DanI'll tell you exactly how we would have it I I want to hear both of you it's not that we would want it to be different we just want women to be completely comprehending the fact that that is the
02:26:38
Danreality a lot of girls don't see it as like men are putting in all this work okay men see it as they they see it as like oh oh you like paid for my meal oh you set the date you're doing you should do that you're doing the bare minimum
02:26:52
Danlike that that's just the bare minimum you're always looking for more this is not a matter of doing more or less it's a matter of men and women both understanding that we as humans have our own mating dance yes like this is just
02:27:03
Danhow it works so but Brian always talks about how men shouldn't have to be should should not be paying on dates nowadays you know why there's there's a few exceptions a few exceptions but for the most part one of the big reasons why we don't do it is one because of the
02:27:16
Danabundant not just the abundance of options that women have but the access to those options that they now have okay and on top of that the fact that you now make money in fact young women which are the ones who are mostly in the dating
02:27:29
DanMarket most older women are out of the dating Market you guys are matching men or outperforming men in most markets in terms of your income okay so why should we have to pay for the date and pull out
02:27:41
Rachela bunch of money when you guys could do that why should we have to good point you're saying it's in your male masculine correct there are a lot of ways that a man can Court you without having to spend a bunch of money on no I
02:27:53
Danagree but so what is the answer to the question you're asking or is it rhetorical well no you well no what you said was would you have it any other way what I would say is women need to just see this as this is the way that it
02:28:04
Danworks and they need to just accept the fact that like this that like this is an audition for men and we are sitting we know we know that we are sitting among amongst a bunch of different options we
02:28:16
Danknow that we're not the only guy that you're talking to right now we know that so if we're not going to be going all in on the first date or all in on the second date there's a reason for that we're trying to play this game of like we're doing just a little bit of the
02:28:30
Danbeginning of the mating dance to see if you return the favor of that mating dance but most women won't return the favor because they think that oh he just did the bare minimum he didn't go above and beyond he didn't make himself stand out there's an early part there's there's a very early part of that
02:28:43
Kattraction meting dance that just needs to be accepted I think that's what is what what I'm literally hearing is right now men are waiting women are in this mindset that they need the dates paid for like I kind of said this earlier
02:28:55
Kthey need all the dates paid for they need everything given to them in the bare minimum is literally being picked up like no if a man doesn't have a car he can't pick you up don't be dumb but at the same time I think men are waiting
02:29:07
Kfor women to be out of that cliche like you have to do all this for me because in the 19 or in the 1870s in 13th colony um New England that's how it was like
02:29:19
Knod wait which colony like the 13th colony is like New England type like like that's how it was like the men did everything colonies like the men did everything and now they're expecting like that's why they expect to do so
02:29:31
Brian Atlasmuch for womenlower that's why they feel so obligated to do so much for women and now they're trying to find someone where did they land where did they land pouth Rock dude hookup culture was
02:29:42
Kcrazy during Plymouth Rock days dude Mormonism was like dude these Rock days were y'all talk about cheating until y'all meet Mormons until y'all meet the
02:29:54
Kold Mormons who hey I will I will not stand for the Mormon disrespect I love Mormons I went to a private school with a bunch of them but I mean I mean some it's a different type ofr Christianity
02:30:06
Kif they if those men can have 13 wives we don't do that anymore wait what I'm so confused we don't do that anymore that was old old thing yeah I know I said old the old Mormonism I said that yeah we don't do that anymore though but it was a thing and it was normalized
02:30:20
Leila Jennerwait what was a thing they would have multiple wives men could have multiple wives they don't not anymore no they could they could but they don't anymore that's not true yes it is in Mormonism yes it is it is oh more okay you're
02:30:31
Brian Atlassaying Mormonism not Christianity like not full Catholicism well Mormonism is well first off Mormonism start did not start in Plymouth Rock it started no it didn't in like what the 1700s in Utah
02:30:43
Brian Atlasyeah yes or the was it the 1800s or the 1700s or is it the 16 I don't know the history of I don't get into it like that but in broader history I mean most of the western world was Christian and you
02:30:54
Kcannot have multiple wives in Christianity I know but Mormons can classify themselves as Christians as well right but Mormonism is a much newer invention than uh Christianity yeah yes it is but it conceived from Christianity
02:31:08
Kbut you in Christianity you can't have multiple wives well I don't then I don't know why Mormons existed at that point if you're saying that so now there we go no no it's something you really can't
02:31:18
Brian Atlasdebate so confused it's something you really can't debate I'm so confused I that anyway soaking Good Times hey there good times don't until you try it it's
02:31:29
Brian Atlaskind of okay this girl uh so okay the the original point you guys were all talking about sugar daddies um and I said hey y'all have dating life on easy mode um
02:31:42
Rachelopportunities just for existing so valid disagree you're right no you're right okay I'll make further points I think 100% much easier for women than men and can get behind that
02:31:55
Rachelit is EAS yeah I could I could tackle this from a couple different perspec maybe I just like like lame dudes I don't know okay if we're at a concert and he wants to get backstage or I want to get backstage you're getting backstage we're getting backstage yeah that's a fair point what about the
02:32:08
Brian Atlasrejection like so when it comes to something that's difficult wouldn't we all agree like if you have a higher likelihood of dealing with like nobody likes dealing with rejection right um
02:32:19
Kwho gets rejected more men or women men like more often than not are you rejecting men or are they rejecting you we're rejecting men well sometimes women don't understand that they're getting rejected they keep trying and trying and
02:32:30
Brian Atlasthe men keeps kind of allowing okay so that is rejected men get rejected on the front end women will typically get rejected on the back end they don't understand because they don't accept no as an answer in any case though men face
02:32:40
Rachelmore I would say men face more rejection than do and you can't fa all comes down to feminism how men have been projected as like these negative images in our
02:32:50
Rachellives and um that men are like some Evil source of like I don't know and they're so aggressive and they're mean and this is what it comes down to this whole stigma but if you're like a logical
02:33:02
Rachelhuman who can like think with both sides of their brain like you you know that that's not true and like men shouldn't be but they are naturally rejected
02:33:12
Anaymore so um to add to her Point not really to add to her point but as a feminist I don't think of men as evil or anything I
02:33:24
Anayactually who whoa whoa whoa earlier on in the conversation you said I am against men yeah just to piss you guys off um feminism me
02:33:34
Anaytoity Equity Equity actually women make more money than men more than equality because everybody has I'm just this is
02:33:44
Anaygoing to get good some you finish please some people have different needs and I think we need to be able to provide for the people that have different needs um that's right I think we need
02:33:56
Brian Atlasaffirmative action for college so that we can equalize because there's way more women going to college and getting degree so I think we need affirmative action for men when it comes to University enrollment yeah and and
02:34:08
Katiedegree that's that's actually like statistically very true read about that too but think in certain Fields there needs to be more women representation
02:34:18
Katielike Tech I would say Tech is one of them women make more money than men don't want to Adit to I think that's when girls need to grow up seeing like women in Tech women in like stem you
02:34:29
Brian Atlasknow I agree in that but I do agree that men aren't like getting college degrees as much as women but when it comes to like more women in Tech could it also be the case that just when it comes to
02:34:40
Katieinterest women are just genuinely like less interested in those kind of fields I would say absolutely but I've noticed the ones that do are very discouraged and I only knew that I only know that cuz I was in like wom in business at UCB
02:34:51
Anayand we did that off St that's I feel like they tend to take they will tend to hire men more because they're like oh well they're seen as like oh men are more reliable men are like there's they don't see that they see your worth ethic
02:35:04
Brian Atlasthey see the worth ethic that you put in I'm just saying that there's like I'm not saying they are but let me just put that question out there are men more reliable just putting that question out there I don't know do you think I don't
02:35:14
Anayknow I don't know I feel like you don't have Neal I've had some men let me down but I would say I would say just like out there they're like oh men are more reliable they're less emotional they like whole thing they're more logical
02:35:26
Brian Atlasspeaking purely on statistics here without making any defin definitive statements they've analyed uh they've analyzed the data on this men are much less likely to take six excuse me
02:35:37
Brian Atlasthey're much less likely to take sick days they're much much less likely to take leave they're much less likely to be late for work maternity leave I mean think about that women want to have babies without making a definitive
02:35:50
Anaystatement but it does seem to be the case that men are less likely to take sick Le anyways in personal days just saying do you a feminist I love men I
02:36:00
Anayrespect men I don't don't think of myself as um what is it Superior to men I would just be honest I don't you're fale so that what does it mean that
02:36:10
Rachelyou're a feminist literally equality that's what I want I want Equity do you do you not do you not feel like do you not feel like I personally I feel like I
02:36:21
Rachelhave the exact same opportunity as any man and genuinely as a female I probably have a little more of an advantage simply by being a fale conratulations we live in America exactly so wait so then
02:36:33
Rachelwhat do you mean feminism equality I can vote I can do all of the things what do you mean that we're not slaves and stuff in other countries and I you know I in other countries you
02:36:46
Anayjust said we're in America I said congratulations we're in America we have those privileges in a lot of countries and a lot of third world countries there isn't so go fight in those countries list in the war like we forc
02:36:57
Anaymen to do but women don't do it exactly exactly women aren't even allowed to be in the front line in the first place yeah they actually are that's not true that's not true my whole I came from a very military family every single adult
02:37:09
Kin my family even my brothers are in the military and I could tell you right now all the women they love are Frontline women so it is so you can be a Frontline you decide to and you only reason why women are deemed not reliable is because
02:37:23
Kthose women who are getting deemed not reliable showed up to that interview unreliable they showed up and just completely bombed that interview they blew it yeah and if you if your first impression was so bad enough to where you think that you're not going to make
02:37:35
Danenough money get this role or anything you did poorly here here's my issue with what you're saying you're saying that people are denying women jobs because of things that they're thinking about women it's a completely un fiable claim how
02:37:47
Dancan you prove that how can you possibly prove that about the person doing the interview it's completely unfalsifiable let's look at every that does that CU that he made a decision to hire someone
02:37:58
Danwho wasn't her the reasons he thought they were more qualified for the position because she's a female because people are interested in making money when they hire somebody they're going to
02:38:08
Anayhire the best also a feminist because anyways I'm also a feminist because I think that we need uh that's two things what's it called we
02:38:18
Anayneed what do we need tell us what we need we need help need um because there's laws going against first off abortion I don't want to bring up abortion cuz I don't want to get into that but that I think I'm a feminist for
02:38:31
Rachelthat reason I'm a feminist because I want I've had three abortions in my life and in no way shape or form do I feel like I'm inspir men or that we don't have enough I never said we were I never said we were in so but but feminism is
02:38:42
Racheladvocating specifically heavily for female rights right can we do a contest at the table to see who's had the most abortions can we not do that I mean you said you had I thought
02:38:53
Kyou there's also also a that's not a feminist quality that's just something that happen crazy that's crazy to say that I
02:39:03
Anayyou think that's a flx dud no just I'm just okay run it back that shut that down really quick anyways there's a lot of violence against women am I being extra there a lot of violence against
02:39:13
Danmen more violence against women statistically speaking men are way more likely to be shot to Beed you know what women are more likely to be they're more likely to be St no
02:39:25
Danthey're more likely to be they're more likely to be sa and they're more likely to be stalked and they're only more likely to be S8 if you don't count the prison population okay statistically so there are some things where women are
02:39:38
Anaymore likely to be VI do not speak up about those things cuz then they it makes them feel weird because they their men it's other men that are it's other men that are that are making other men
02:39:48
Anayfeel like they can't that they can't it's other men it it's toxic masculinity why don't men other why don't men why don't men want to speak up because they're afraid of getting judged by
02:40:00
Anayother men my mom used to be they are they are they're afraid of being judged by women exactly I would never judge a man if he got assaulted came back crying to you no how
02:40:11
Anaywould that yeah you would never judge you would I wouldn't judge him I've been in that position I've been in that position where I've been assaulted I've been in that position why would I ever go and turn the tables and be like you're whatever you're worthless you
02:40:25
Dandeserve that why would I ever do that I'd be there I'm a good person and for you to make that assumption is terrible this is the thing where she no again remember my thing earlier about how women are depending on my own benevolence to ignore the point this is
02:40:37
Danwhat they do okay this is what they do no how dare you make that assumption about me how dare you deserve a lot more I'm so sorry that what are youor but but but what are you assuming you're assuming that I don't care that I'm saying you don't care about that person
02:40:49
Anayno I'm saying you're you would be unattracted to him as a no I wouldn't and here you go making another assumption sir here you go making another assumption basically basically I
02:41:00
Kwould never I would never excuse me you're interrupting a woman you sexist hold on okay we're okay so a woman is speaking she's saying it's basically
02:41:12
Kwomen are getting more abused than men my mother used to beat me every day until I was removed from the home so women do cause a lot of assault they really do and blaming it straight on men saying that women have no rights well then why did my mom do that do you know
02:41:25
Danwhich children are most likely to be abused um single mother children she wasn't a single mom my dad just had PTSD my point single motherhood child abuse is actually happens at a higher rate
02:41:36
Kthan two family households and I I'm the seventh kid and and uh single father households it's where most of the child abuse occurs yeah but I mean just saying that pushing
02:41:48
Kall these problems onto men that's actually what's wrong with Society I think everything is an equal thing everything should be completely equal we have every single right that amand does and logistically we are getting paid
02:42:00
Klike 49 cents more than men in every single job actually like office jobs we are getting paid more than men we have so many rights because we fought for so long they really are like and I don't
02:42:10
Brian Atlaswant to say that I I I don't think that there's a wage Gap but I don't know spreadsheet we have the spreadsheet on the phone I could no ready ready for this that's true that's this is this is a really good stat we talked about this
02:42:23
Danat dinner okay so the so the actual wage Gap the actual wage Gap in in I believe it's North America see the North America or the United States as of 2020 is uh 17
02:42:34
Dancents women make 83 cents to that of men that's all men and women if you look specifically at men and women under the age of 30 who work full who work
02:42:44
Danfull-time jobs jobs uh it's 93 cents and in most of the major Metro areas where women are complaining the loudest about the wage gap which are predominantly
02:42:54
Danliberal they out gain men okay in New York Women I believe make 101% working 12 hour shifts that is insane but my point is the wage Gap but
02:43:07
Danwhen we say the whole the wage Gap is a myth that whole thing there first of all there's a reason the wage Gap exists and there's also a reason why it gets higher the older you get because women decide to do things like take leave to take
02:43:19
Dancare to take care of children you can't take three four years off from work come back and be like I can't believe the guy who was making the same amount as me four years ago is now making more than
02:43:31
Danme like you can't make that complaint you can't do that so most of the women who complain the loudest which are young females in major Metro areas they have literally nothing to complain about nothing to your point they are exactly
02:43:44
Danthey have the same same degree of equality as men do they have access to everything that men do everything that you say about what men think about women or what higher MERS think about women is what you think they think is completely unfalsifiable I completely agree with
02:43:58
Kall by way I know I'm kind of like shouting this at you I'm shouting out of agreement it's just oh no oh I'm just I'm very nonchalant but I it's feminism I I don't like saying that's a bad topic
02:44:12
Brian AtlasI mean if you're a feminist you're a feminist you just obviously don't realize how much we've far we've gotten in America that's a stupid or or how they or how they frame feminism talking to a woman right here okay can you stop being sexist please I'm not a woman H
02:44:24
Rachelwhat if I have a penis right now then literally you just I would ask you to get therapy because all of that in in between is fine but when you're when you're when you are biologically born
02:44:35
Anaywith a vagina you're a girl and when you're born with a born with a penis I'm out going to I'm going here I'm not going
02:44:44
Anayto transphobic as you for that doing her best wait wait wait wait wait come on wait what wait who what did you say she said she didn't
02:44:55
Rachellike com no that's not what she said she said that she hates trans people no she said you're biologically born with you're biologically born with a penis
02:45:05
Brian Atlasyou're a man God she made like point I'm going to put no no no I'm sorry Brian no no dude she's gone just stay just stay just stay just no but that's
02:45:17
Brian Atlasnot cool like like that no just The Show Must Go On The Show Must Go On it's not cool like she's a girl no she's good she's good The Show Must Go On she blew up she blew up rude don't she's good
02:45:30
Kshe's good trust yo Madison you're going to sit right here okay you're going to sit over there no she's just doing her best she was doing her best Kiko impression am I not allowed to sit there cuz my nipples what no is that can I not
02:45:42
Brian Atlassit next to my roommate I'm kidding I don't care I don't care at all actually you know what yeah you you scoot over Madison will sit there uh put the seat boosters over there I
02:45:53
Brian Atlasmean all right that was our first bangs walkoff I don't even I wasn't really like super tuned in dude the you to not to not be tuned in come on she she made like she made like a trans statement and
02:46:05
Brian Atlaslike I get it like you know people get touchy on some topics like that I still think it was funny opinion right she was the one who was like it's okay to have your opinion I you're say I'm not
02:46:17
Brian Atlasarguing stop stop one at a time please I've repeated myself multiple times on this one person speaking the time it's very simple go ahead no I feel like um there's just uh C I'm not this way but I respect people that are this way they
02:46:30
Leila Jennerjust believe in things really strongly and get emotional and upset and I think that um she probably just you know the worst words about trans I I was chilling but you know I am so completely and
02:46:43
Danutterly repulsed by the way that you live your life did I did I storm off the set no but did did I did I storm off the set are you like trying to make me horny right now no but I she likes to beaded
02:46:55
Brian Atlasbe careful be careful she's been soaking pretty the SC is getting kind of yikes sppy okay good to know we're going to have to disinfect that what happened while I was gone were you not at the
02:47:06
Brian Atlastable no I was in the bathroom always gone like a I was like what if I'm I'm sorry I'm sorry I was going to explain to her but Madison you always gone when the goes down no I I made a joke I was like What if I
02:47:18
Rachelhave a dick right now and she was like I would be repulsed by that and that pissed her off CU wait that was it that's what she got upset about cuz she was like defined what a man and woman are I said if you are biologically born
02:47:30
Rachelwith a vagina you are a female and if you're born with a penis you're a male that's it right she said you're being so transphobic you don't get to this I feel like it was a lot of things I feel like
02:47:42
Madisonshe was already like raging a little bit before from likeis it was the topic can I what's the watch I'm like what is let's not derail the
02:47:52
Danconversation look she was getting absolutely obliterated every single time she brought up a point about feminism it got debunked in a sentence or L and women so she was pissed off that
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Danshe had nothing to back to back up her belief she had nothing and she stormed off because she was looking for an excuse of something to get pissed off about which was not just I'm getting completely in the room that's a move you're doing a move you can't
02:48:17
Leila Jennertalk when someone's not in the room that's that's he's not talking I think the way you you phrased it was a little bit negative I mean oh did it make you feel not so I feel I feel like if I was her and I walked out and
02:48:31
Leila Jennerthen you started being like well you know what she was she was you know and I would be like damn or or she could have just not stormed out like a child see like that could would you say that she was right here have been mad at me if I if she comes back we'll be like don't
02:48:43
Leila Jennerstorm out like yes do you think I would yeah I would call her out be like you're being a good friend but it's it's it's herself she had her choice you would like cool but like if you're going to like say this
02:48:55
Brian Atlashere and then when she's tell I would tell her to her face it is childish to storm off just because you're upset because honestly I don't even think what you said was that like there's way worse you could have said on that topic
02:49:07
Brian Atlaslike if Chase was here and saying like we could have talked about is it like is it okay I'm not going to go there why don't you call her and tell her this what cuz we we I don't how wow with the girls on the panel because we
02:49:19
Leila Jennerwant adults on the podcast he told you that he's repulsed by your life and you sat here and you like okay I don't want to put too much on it I was just I was just saying if you if if you would put your word like that when she's in front of you cool I just didn't know if you're like just talking cuz she was like well
02:49:32
Brian Atlasokay we're right now we're we're we're live streaming she just stormed out of the studio of course we're going to like have something are we just going to talk
02:49:42
Leila Jennerabout I also asked what happen so true I ask what I just feel like I mean if you would say that to her face like cool you know said said what to her face like a child but L for this after if she wasn't
02:49:56
Danyeah I mean yeah send her the link this is interesting men tend to speak very very bluntly about exactly what logically no and you're I have a feeling that this is something that goes through the minds of women like no you shouldn't say that because what if she was what if
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Kshe was here I just want to be a good person someone down know women behind their backs that's all that's all she does not sugar coat with me she'll be like you're crying should I find you a therapist because they're educated in
02:50:20
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02:50:54
Brian Atlassee um okay hold up okay this one came in a while ago one sec guys we have Lea can you read this Lea someone mentioned earlier that you're not much
02:51:05
Leila Jennerto look at and you don't need me to offend you to defend you but you're a solid eight though your statement of relaxation by good head is just weird I'm a 24y old virgin so take that with a
02:51:17
Leila Jennergrain of salt obviously would you valid but I think that if you're 24-year-old virgin and like you just had like one of the worst dayses of your life and I came
02:51:26
Leila Jennerand like glued you off insanely then honestly like you would probably feel better and I don't think that's too much of a crazy statement to say I think any man in this room who had
02:51:38
Leila Jennera bad day and then received head and it'd be not so bad of a day from from a woman he actually loves
02:51:46
Leila Jennerand who actually loves him but but it still works not from Every Woman except I didn't say from me individually your woman could that you love could maybe
02:51:58
Brian Atlasyou know and you'd be like H thank you baby that makes me feel better should I change the title of the video to bang storms off okay bang storms off yes so to I'm not going to lie that did take me
02:52:10
Allisonsurprise though I was like I thought she was mad at me at first she's probably never coming I think she was mad about the debate with you saying was escalating she was and
02:52:21
Kfeminis didn't help a woman telling her that feminism is BS it's just not she have any toal feminism is literally but I don't like I don't know what you picking your nails
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Leila Jenneror something playing with your nails not it's not feminism shouldn't be a real thing anymore at this so basically what you're saying is mad at my I don't agree I think it's a good thing I think people that are
02:52:46
Leila Jennerreally really emotional are probably feminists but that's not a bad thing it's okay for someone to feel things really deeply said all night don't most people who are hyper emotional are probably feminists you are 100% correct please continue she's very much true
02:52:59
Kyeah thank you for acknowledging that I really Katie were you expecting all this tonight no not at all that honestly when she walked up she's like what the know we sitting here telling us like our
02:53:12
Brian Atlaslife is shameful and I just sat here like y'all are a really lovely couple like that's all that went through my head we'll talk after the show I have some interesting wait things to say to you so F Fally he's 24y old virgin would
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Brian Atlasyou um I know you're dating zura but would you he's in Miami okay so it's cool they're not dating this Fally f are you can sad F