BANGS STORMS OFF?! (RAGE QUIT) | Dating Talk #101

Date: 2023-09-18

Duration: 4h 59m

Guests

MMadison (DT101)

Brian Atlas

KKiki (co-host DT126)>

LLeila Jenner >

KKatie (DT101)>

AAllison (DT101)>

RRachel (DT101)>

BBilly Ray (DT101)>

DDan (DM Dating)>

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00TTS Reader(audience)

SPEAKER_01Dan(guest)

SPEAKER_02Rachel(guest)

SPEAKER_03K(guest)

SPEAKER_04Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_05Anay(guest)

SPEAKER_06Kiki(guest)

SPEAKER_07Leila Jenner(guest)

SPEAKER_08Billy Ray(guest)

SPEAKER_09Katie(guest)

SPEAKER_10Allison(guest)

SPEAKER_11Madison(guest)

Key Moments

IntroLeila Jenner intro: 20yo porn star / OnlyFans, stage name, from Texas.

“I'm Leila Jenner I'm 20 and I'm a porn [star]”

RelationshipLeila reveals she is legally married to a 21yo Mormon bishop candidate in Utah while openly dating content creator Zera. Marriage is open/informal. Panel debates credibility of the story.

“I have a husband he's Mormon but I'm dating Zera”

ControversyAllison states that being born with a penis means you are a man; frames this as biological fact during a feminism/trans discussion.

“when you are biologically born with a vagina you're a girl and when you're born with a penis I'm out”

Key MomentAnay ("Bangs") storms off set after Allison's statement about biological sex, calling it transphobic. Brian confirms: "That was our first bangs walkoff."

“I'm out [exits]”

QuoteBrian confirms the walkoff on-air: "That was our first bangs walkoff."

“all right that was our first bangs walkoff”

Key MomentRachel reveals she has a 4.5-year platonic male mentor who has paid her >$10k this year alone; panel debates whether this constitutes sugar babying.

“it's more than 10,000 correct yes okay”

Key MomentRachel explains she broke up with 6-year boyfriend ~3 months before a Sweden trip to visit first love; admits the trip was a catalyst for the breakup.

“this trip gave me the out I'm like I'm going to go and I'm going to be with my best friend... there's a likely chance I'm going to have interest in him”

QuoteK reveals she used seeking arrangements to fund an entire Texas road trip by doing 2-minute FaceTime calls for ~$500 each.

“all I did was FaceTime and like be like Hi how are you doing and then they... I got that entire trip paid for”

IntroAnay returns to the show after her walkoff (~4:06 mark).

“she's here”

QuoteLeila describes sugar daddy income: ~$300/date in Texas, up to $2k for a movie day, ~$4k/month total at peak, while attending nursing school.

“I would say like maybe 5,000 for one guy... in one week like I hung out with like three at the most”

QuoteBrian asks Leila about body count; she reveals she started college at 16 and had 40 partners by end of freshman year.

“you started college at 16 your freshman year of college you [had] 40 dudes yes”

QuoteLeila tracks her body count through college: 7 entering, 40 by end of freshman year, ~67 by start of junior year, then ~60 personal + ~50 in porn = 100+.

“freshman year we had this contest... sophomore year probably got up to 67 by junior year... then I got into porn and that was probably another 50”

Key MomentLeila offers oral sex to host Brian Atlas on air; Brian deflects with humor. SPEAKER_03 (K) intervenes. Creates prolonged comedic exchange.

“I give myself six I think you're 10... this girl trying to gas me up so she can give me a BJ”

Topics Discussed

Guest introductions and relationship statuses

Guests introduce themselves; Brian goes around table on relationship status. Leila reveals she is legally married to a 21yo Mormon bishop candidate while dating "Zera"; story debated for credibility.

Sex work, OnlyFans, and social shame

Discussion of OnlyFans, porn, and whether sex work should face social shame. Billy Ray argues for returning social stigma to sex work; Leila, Anay, and K defend their work.

Sugar daddies and seeking arrangements

Panel discusses experiences with sugar daddies and seeking arrangements. Leila had 3 at once; made ~$4k/month in Texas. K did 2-min FaceTime calls for $500 each. Rachel describes her long-term platonic male mentor who paid her sporadically.

Dating dynamics and who has it easier (men vs women)

Brian and Dan argue women have dating on "easy mode" due to sexual optionality. Panel debates Bumble, rejection rates, group project analogy for dating initiative.

Feminism, wage gap, and trans rights

Heated exchange on feminism and wage gap statistics. Allison states biological sex is determined at birth; Anay calls it transphobic and storms off the set at ~2:44:35.

Bangs (Anay) walkoff and aftermath

Brian and panel discuss Anay's departure. Dan argues she stormed off because her feminist arguments were being debunked. Leila defends Anay. Anay returns at ~4:06.

Rachel's sugar daddy and 6-year relationship story

Rachel explains her 4.5-year platonic male mentor arrangement. Panel debates whether it qualifies as sugar babying. Rachel then describes breaking up with 6-year boyfriend ~3 months before a Sweden trip to see first love.

Women keeping in contact with exes while in relationships

Discussion of Rachel's situation; Dan and Brian argue women often line up next relationship before officially ending the current one.

Body count and its effects

Panel debates whether body count matters. Leila reveals her count: ~7 entering college, 40 by end of freshman year, ~67 by junior year, then stagnated ~60 personal + ~50 in porn = 100+. K explains endometriosis limiting hers. Madison describes her frat president competition freshman year.

Self-ratings

Stiffler chat triggers self-rating round. Madison: 8, Allison: 9.5, Rachel: 4-5 (undecided), Dan: 7.5, K: 6, Brian: 7.5-8. Brian notes Anay would have said 10.

Transcript

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Leila Jennercan I set you up with Lea um send me a picture of him okay I'll I'll yourd test let's get this going okay you have to send him yours too just saying I've never had one I get I get tested every

Brian Atlastwo we never I've never had speaking of which somebody at this panel has a dark secret related to what the hell who is it we're going to get into that in a little bit after I get through these

Kchats resp um can I have you read this one please the Mormon husband needs to be put in a choke hoold maybe after good sleep he'll wake up and realize he's getting cucked by someone who does coke

Kand stored rage head and John Zera making the rest of us look bad Mike is that you literally Mike is that you Mike

Leila JennerPavone no that's do you know do you know Mike Pavone no it's their M also Dan I appreciate what you also M why thank you Mike why wait how who am I making look

Brian Atlasbad and Confused who's the US are you Mormon is Mike Pavone Mormon no well I said this earlier the mor Mormon husband man who's married to her who's currently

Brian Atlassleeping with John zura and few a lot of she does porn too um I don't do porn right now cuz I was with well he's Miami does matter uh please dude if you have

Brian Atlasany dignity oh F's back I'll get to that in a sec if you have any dignity dude you got to divorce her I'm sorry dude you can't be a Mormon bishop and he will never divorce me you cannot be a Mormon

Leila Jennerbishop and tolerate infidelity will never I promise you though you will never find as amazing as mine and a Thro as amazing as mine in your entire

Rachelin your entire life can actually say that you're talking like you're comparing show my vagina I don't want to see your vagina literally I'll pass on

Leila Jennerthe vagina I'm a fan of vaginas but I'm going to pass pass pass like the most beautiful vagina like that's how I up so fast

Brian Atlasf conations he loves me a lot great he does Hees you never by way did anyone she has a Beau did you hear what she said and she's really good at sucking dick did you hear that part I just sit

Brian Atlashere and you want me to I live no I'm I'm good um thank thank you though that's that's a very generous offer of you to fate me I love giving my friend's head it's like you know just a casual see this is I think this is the problem

Rachelyour friends like if he was my friend and we were out and he'd be like damn I wish I had some head I'd be like yo bro I got you have you ever had a friend out and be like damn I wish I had some I have never had a male do that maybe they

Rachellike send the N imply that they wanted to hit on me but they would never literally look at me like Damn I wish I had some head you've never had like sexual attension

Rachelwith your friends no no or they wouldn't be friends girl no I think well let's be real I have um someone that like I I call a friend but we've we we are more

Rachelintimate than what we like no but someone that I'm now emotionally connected to maybe in a certain way but no I'm never going to have a friend if I make friends with her she's never going to look at me be

Rachellike I really wish I had can be with your friends like you're not friends I mean weird afterward well for me no cuz I so maybe it's what you're getting off get like giving off energetically rather

Leila Jennerthan I want to come my best friend come I'm like yeah like it's a good friend thing to do to make each other come give head you don't have to give

Rachelyou can no no that is I I'm going to say right now I respect you I do I I don't respect what you do or how you do it but I respect you as a human human

Rachelhuman but that's and 98% of people are going to sorry am I not supposed to say that word are going to look at you and be like you're telling us right now that getting ging head to

Brian Atlasyour friends is normal we're never no that's fine your is hpth good we will never F you you have to pay this a mission is this a mission H you want bet I don't even want

Leila Jennerto BJ you want to bet that you will never me I will never you are you sure not I don't want shake it let's go Shake on it what the bro no no no no shake no okay fine you want you want a

Leila Jennerhandshake are you can can you sanitize your hands hold on never I will never

Kikiyou I will shake hold on that is disgusting that is disgusting hold on hold on wait guys stop okay I will shake your hand but I ask that you sanitize it first okay I just

Brian Atlaswashed my hands in the bathroom can you can you sanitize your hand first gerh I'm aob he's just aerob get that chick some uh give me some give me some bleach I'm just kidding I'm just kidding no you're you're shaking right

Brian Atlasnow on stream that you will never I will never you swear on something yeah bro this shit's easy as F I believe it's very easy I believe it wait are you think realize how easy of a commitment that is yeah I know you're you thinking wait are you thinking he's going to

Brian Atlashold on I know you're surrounded by a bunch of degenerate sex hungry men it's not that hard to a chick BR unless you're like are you going to like stalk me like outside my house Brian please

Leila Jennerme right now like what the like it's going to almost be easier for you that's fine don't agree with you but it's okay I'm going to I'm going to prove all of Y wrong and when I you I'm going to

Rachelcome on stream and it's going to be the funniest thing ever and you're going have to say going to be it's every time we have an argument I'm going to be like is that how you acquire the people you just

Leila Jennerby like they don't want to you take you like the chase huh yeah but when I do you I'm going to like put it in your ass and you're going to be my and it's going to be like you can never argue with me again are you going to

Leila JennerBDSM but tell tell me this with me on this okay if as soon as you your boyfriend in the ass they can never argue with you so are you pegging your

Leila Jennerboyfriend yeah wait guy you they took it in the ass I did not I didn't not he would never he's so dominant actually he's like oh my God it's so Dy is he dominant while you're pegging him in the

Leila Jennerbud is that daddy daughter you're not into Daddy good girl daddy daughter like good girl like that's my good girl oh is that what daddy daughter is I mean yeah

Klike ddg like oh wow mean I don't know it's not my profession look don't get start second thoughts about the industry um well no no one ever forc me into do anything and again I don't have men on

Rachelthere and it's not anything loot or anything like that I'm just laerie is pretty to me I think it's pretty the fact that you so logical for

Rachelthe most part and and working again for to put you say that you respect me before uh no I do but and I'll say it over and over again cuz I mean no

Rachelgenuine disrespect but I'm like the stupidity is beyond me and and I think that I can't believe you are why enabling supporting working just

Kbecause you can't itn't mean you can't believe it I can't do it well that's fair I can't I would never allow myself y'all might think like this is like bad but to be honest my mental health was so bad she said I threw my phone on the floor I've quite literally slammed my

Kphone against my head till it shattered she got me out of all of those awful mindsets of so now you feel indebted to her to the point that you need to help her with good God I will tell I told her I

Ktold her that I was going to make her Uber here because I was like um well my mental Health's a little iffy today I don't think I'm going to showout to this podast she's a good friend she's a genuine person I respect the F it was a great decision and no she I would

Dangenuinely not be out here if it wasn't for her you know what I think it is I think she actually just wants to sleep with you cuz that's what she want to do do but here's the thing what's what's interesting you can look me up and I

Billy Rayhave the awest gay remarks like got trans there's so many conversations going give me a cancel for say I don't like people I'm straight As I Am flat be a point if Dan just said something that

Danoutlandish there is a point I don't know where he's going I don't know no but usually there is a point no the point is this there's one difference between friends and a person that you would

Danconsider yourself to be in a relationship with sister she really is that is the only thing that makes it different okay the way that you go about your life you're just like I just love sex I want to this guy oh what about this guy like oh I just want to I just want to what about this

Danguy oh I could him that would be fun that would be there's nothing meaningful about your relationships with anybody I have so much fun she's yeah what's the meaning behind that you just pleasure is like my best friend like he

Leila Jennerreally is my but he has amazing sex with me and he is my best friend I love hanging out with him we have the funniest laughs like he's a great guy like he's my best friend like for real so stop doing porn

Leila Jennerquit that I did I stopped doing don't don't don't date anybody else thing was that I stopped doing stop offering him a BL job on a live stream it's been a good month be an actual girlfriend to

Dansomebody actually have uh when I'm 30 yeah no no do do you realize what you're doing to yourself right now you're completely up the way that your mind works it's already been up right and if you can admit that why

Danwouldn't you change it because I like it you like how up you are you are literally satanic honestly it turns me on that you say that tell me I'm sat again no and do you realize like she's

Rachelnot but why are you making it sexual like let's have like I I know you have a little bit more than how you're like coming across I know you have a little bit more logic than how you're coming across I get you're like oh like you're turning me on that's your like defense

Rachelmechanism like whatever it is turning you on okay but like logically what are you saying there's no meaning to any relationship that you have if I was Billy right now I would be pissed CU

Billy Raywhat typ guy do you want to end up with a 30 I mean my my my man that I'm with right now will be the one that has my kids when I'm 30 so the one you're married to your husband the one you're

Leila Jennermarried I don't think I don't think Zera will ever like he's such a party guy and everything and like but me hang out with him and like getting to and like getting to be like oh you're mine like cute like I like that but like and that is Meaningful to me and it feels real to

Rachelme because I'm crazy and it feels real and genuine to me are you seeking therapy are you seeking therapy on divorce I think that's I think like so you're just you just want to be crazy you're happy with being crazy like I've

Rachelgotten therapy I've gotten therapy my parents got divorced I was like o I can't emotionally deal with this I'm going to do I'm going to act some way if I do that so are you getting help no I I

Leila Jennerlove my life so much and I have so much fun doing you think that's from a crazy judge when people judge no not even that the money is amazing but when

Leila Jennerpeople judge me it just makes me realize I'm so much more unique than them and I is this I you guys just have a big difference on any clip I've ever been on

DanI am the exact same way on every single clip I've ever been on I'm not a by your own definition you don't think that you're up you think that you're the right one you think you think that you're the one

Leila Jennerwho is better than other people you think other people I think yeah like if you're that judgmental I don't think they should change if you can't handle her don't insert yourself into her life go ahead go ahead sorry

Katieall I'm saying is I think you guys have very different morals but I think it is so disrespectful that you are looking at him and saying you turned me on with Billy sitting right there I know she Billy okay I know she doesn't feel threatened of course she doesn't feel

Katiethreatened I mean it as a joke but it's also like if my boyfriend was sitting right next to me and some girl was like you're turning me on I would be so wait till we leave I do think it's funny you're not

Katiethink I could get that back from you but honestly like honestly like I would stop if it was I'm just going to end it with I know you're not threatened but I would be so pissed and you're like being very

Katiegrateful right now disgusting what you you want me to no I'm not that person but I would can you say that with your very confrontational because that's so

Racheldisrespectful is Wayne I'm okay with you feeling disrespect me okay I'm telling you if this was Alison right now and someone at this table said this to

RachelAllison I would absolutely yes I would probably I would probably handle it not verbally I would say Billy was who Allison is to me sorry I'm not talking

Rachellike you would fight on behalf of your friends hon her oh 100% probably not on camera in front of 4.2 million people but abs absolutely Billy do give a can we

Billy Raytake wers on who's going to win in the boxing match that we're going when I was when I was younger and like maybe past relationship relationships if somebody would have

Billy Raysaid this maybe I would have felt threatened back then but I threaten is like the she doesn't feel threat because someone who's brainwashing crazy saying this stuff

Billy Rayto try why I'm not like I

Leila Jennerdon't he's never going to ever look at a girl because she knows she's dating a man of principal also also Zera would never let me cheat on him she relationship you you s okay but I'll make jokes and I and I know the day

Brian Atlaswhenever we're done I'm going to make every single one of those moves you hold on you just said that zirka would never let you cheat on him but he you earlier on in the conversation you said well

Danwhen he's in Miami I can other guys true he's in Miami that's cheat I'm going to point out that there back we're going to be back together you see there's no me I I made this point when you walked away there's no meaning I'm

Danup but I'm better than everybody else like like like I'm just like very cocky like I feel like other people are boring but I'm also really up I'm by myself I love that you repul there's

Leila Jennerthere's nothing this nothing nothing she says has love that you can understand it I love that you can't wrap your mind around it I don't mean to attack you but there was a comment on the screen that

Brian Atlasjust me every that's honestly probably everyone in the world probably we're not going to get through tour I'm going to move things on we have Fally here with the with a message

Madisonum Madison can you read it surprised she stayed as long as she did every time multiple people disagreed with her her facial expressions alone told me she's refusing to listen going to keep her position even if it's wrong in the

Madisonpublic eye people like her are the reason feminists get hat can I add to that emal I just feel like there another comment and it was like one sec really quick Madison can you read this really quick then I'll have you come in going to try to make this my last donation for

Madisontonight I do this way too often but charity is fun for me the happy reactions are worth it I have a friend who I might recommend to you but I'm saving myself for the one if I ever find it thanks though good for you who I

Brian Atlasmight recommend to you like to watch our show thank you f appreciate it have no you wanted to hook him up together remember give me your friend babe give me your friend all right okay go ahead I was just going to say that's not the

Katiefirst person that said like you guys are giving feminists a bad rap and like you're claiming to be a feminist and then you're like disrespecting the out of Billy like saying that to her boyfriend like that's not clim I don't think she claims

Leila Jennerfeminist go women but like I don't know like closer closer to the mic okay I'm like go women but I'm like you're not woke in that sense yeah no I don't give too many like that but I mean go women do want to throw what do you give

Brian Atlasa about can I ask you straight up what do you give a about it's not right it's it's not right but at the what would you what would you do if you were guys guys guys stop stop what would you do if you were in Billy's position

Katieright now my hope is that I would handle myself just as gracefully and probably no I can sense energy when you I didn't have h r days there were no h r days I don't think

KatieI've ever pun going to have the choke I wouldn't I would no I can I can sense energy and at all but I feel unsettled and I

Brian Atlaswould definitely after be like hey Val back let's do a role play You're Billy Billy Ray you're um a a patriarchy

Brian Atlassupporter professional patriarchy supporter um Dan's your boyfriend she just said the she said I can we can we can react pretend to be Billy go wait

Leila Jennercan you pretend to be to be Ben right no you you have to do it first you have to do it you have to do it first so that she can react I want to suck your car oh my

KatieGod me speechless I'm sorry I didn't know what to say I um I think you're so disrespectful for saying that with me right here like I don't I wouldn't be thaty I would call her out at least I would say that's valid I take my back

Brian Atlasand I'll back up face no no you're right you're totally correct but I'm going to continue doing it all right let me get some chats here uh Madison can you read this or no we read this we read this uh

Madisondid we do this one no M hypothe hypothetical you've been seeing someone and now they're your Boyfriend/Girlfriend who pays when you go out to dinner 50/50 does it change if

Madisonyou're living together don't give a PCA answer how do you really feel it should be can I this time related to this or I wanted

Billy RayI just want to give my last response goad if I did say something imagine how the chat would react saying how insecure I was okay actually I think they'd back

Billy Rayyou to be all have doesn't like ever so think would be I think it would be she's look at her she's so insecure she honestly I think they what they you're good can I have a say on that

Brian Atlascomment right we'll go around the table on this uh so here's the chat why don't you go first we'll go all the way around the table go ahead oh sorry you start go ahead um okay um no if I'm with a man

Leila Jennerlike my whole thing is I'll never be with a sorry um I'll never be with a man that makes less than me so like obviously pay for my dinner like duh I'm never going to be like yeah let me pull out my let me get my Apple pay real quick like you know I'm with I'm with

Leila Jennerenough red pill guys that they're going to pay for my dinner you don't feel good having someone like to pay for someone to like give it back the guys the type of guys that I date are all so like red pill like they're goingon to it's never

Leila Jennergoing to be corn stars and like having to do everything I can I can you know I got my little moves I'll be like baby I'll put porn for you you know and then I do for a little bit okay for a little bit I like putting in the exact same amount of effort the man puts in to me I

Kwill cook for them even if they do not cook for me but I enjoy giving it's very nice to make other people smile that's why I love customer service okay nice why not make someone else good service who pays when we go out to dinner I'd

Madisonprefer the guy to pay I wouldn't really mind paying 50/50 uh does it change if we live together not really I think um when I first started dating my boyfriend he felt a pressure

Katieto like pay for everything but now that we're like living together we do really really like 50/50 and he'll take me on a date he'll pay for everything but also like he'll have a bad day I'll surprise him I'll be like hey I brought sushi for

Katieus like I like to also give do things in return yeah I like to give too and it's like my love language gift giving so I'm constantly like bringing stuff yes yeah um my boyfriend he usually pays when we

Allisongo out to eat we don't normally go out to eat um we like to cook in and stuff and when that happens I always make the food and he sucks at cooking but you're at cooking though he normally pays and

Rachelthat's hot he normally pays when we a man that can't cook yeah U me um I'm super big on like I'm very 5050 unless like it's if it's his birthday like I

Rachelfor sure want to spoil you I want to buy you gifts I want to buy you dinner um on Christmas like whatever happens happens I I don't know okay yeah I mean we live

Dantogether he we have like I mean I mean listen that there are times where no let her let well where she where she would go to she would go to pay for things and I'd

Danbe like no like you don't need to do this for me and she says like I want to she she says she says how much rent did I pay this month because she moved into my into my place yeah I don't pay any rent yeah she she doesn't like like I've

DanI've been covering no no but she but she comes in and and she like she'll she'll buy groceries she'll she'll take me out to dinner sometime 5050 even if it's not financially it's effort wise setup is I

Billy Rayhave a beautiful water front apartment that I look out at every day and I'm very happy with and Dan gets organic farm fresh meat that's beautifully

Billy Rayseasoned and all the house is decorated and I pay for that she buys every single piece of supplies that we need for a good beach day so you think it works out that way 5050 so he puts the roof over

Rachelthe head and we're splitting the bill we putting both of our cards I don't think that's what she just said it best I put the roof over our head and she makes it pretty let's just ask though because what the I think some of the tables argument is like oh but I have so much

Rachelmoney that like or these people have so much so let's just say he was a multi like Jeff Bezos billionaire would you still do the same thing

Billy Rayum yeah cuz I feel like the way I do it now is just I make his life optimal yes he provides the yeah what I do like I make sure that all the food going into his

Billy Raybody is like the best quality stuff we can get I make sure that the area that he's living in is organized and beautiful so if it was Jeff Bezos I'd do the same exact thing I mean I'm sure he

Brian Atlasa person such a like particular scenario because Jeff Bezos is one of the most wealthy people so it's like your life would be so inconceivably different if

Brian Atlasyou were involved with Jeff Bezos it's just like but would she still show her true colors and be that person and still do the same things and she's qualifying as I'm just curious like what like if you're because if you're married to Jeff

RachelBezos you're not cooking I would never you're not cleaning up I would ABS no I would absolutely cook and clean one day maybe maybe I know and I would take it upon myself to

Rachelsay no I want to cook for you tonight I know she cooks great all week I want to cook for you there's probably like if you're married to Jeff Bezos he has like a professional chef preparing the

Rachelmeals there's probably a food taste tester I hate that but let's be you get what we're asking right like would would you still

Rachelshow up as the same human in the same uh you know like attitude Personality yeah like if he's in a different tax packet would you still show that same love because I think what they're looking at is she's like I'm never going to pay

Rachelbecause he has so much money I'm like I it doesn't take away from my character because the other male or the male has so much money like I still want to make you dinner every now and again wait but I don't I don't think that I think it's

Leila Jennerthe type of guys I with are so red pill they they would never think it's going no I would just think I just think I'm just correcting you because they would never think I'm going to continue but they would never think that it's okay for me to pay they just would it

Leila Jennerthey would feel like they'd be like no you're a woman what so you wouldn't tell them like no I want to pay be like that I can be like that but they're going to be like no like you're a woman I'm going to pay like you know they're just I feel like that's a red

Kpill quality actually I mean it is I have had a man 25-year-old tell me I am not allowed to drive myself anywhere when I he him I'm

TTS Readernot allowed to pay for any of my $100 yo thank you Mexico her face is busted and now she's gone I pretty much ended that gree ball ml's career Mike Davis has

Brian Atlasthat precision and knows how to cut right through the soul which low life should I end next chat M DAV which low life should you end next life so don't

Brian Atlaslook at me Mike Davis you need to end who's aning on social media right now who's annoying Logan Paul's kind of annoying I haven't heard while um did

Danyou see that Dylan danis reposted our video really oh I didn't see that wait talking about talking about him and Nina yeah what would youall say was it bad yeah well it was on the the make me AWI podcast go ahead and check it out uh

Danno but I basically just made the point that there's no way that that relationship is not currently on the Rocks obviously there's no way that it's not you can't marry that anymore well have you seen some of their Clips like

Brian Atlasthere they did the podcast together and the way she talks to him is like I super aggressive it's weird post that they've had interviews post that and I just think that's a PR they had they've had

Billy Rayinterviews post all the that's come out I think there was one where they were saying that or no maybe it was just Logan saying like of course I've been laughing at it like we sit down together and laugh at's there's no way he's dying

Brian Atlasinside that is insan I love leono DiCaprio but the moment like if a girl who I'm trying to pursue if I know she Leonard DiCaprio I feel like

Brian Atlasthat's kind of a rap you know not to say that I'm like are you insecure you're so sexy well it's not here's the thing though it's not like honestly Leo is bagging some really some pretty hot

Leila Jennerbabes so I'm not sure if I could get the girls he's probably because of his though he doesn't think they're talk do you think Nina do you think Nina's attractive cuz personally the

Leila Jenneramount of everyone think she's she's a beautiful woman like no after knowing like knowing that she did all that who is this she's got that kind

Leila Jennerof like I'm not sure if she's attractive model like knowing like knowing that she all those guys in is with Logan like like do you think he thinks she's still attractive now are you talking

Danappearance he he didn't know that though now he does look your woman is supposed to be a reflection of you as a man if that's the reflection of you you're not feeling too do not believe that change his mind on her go ahead go ahead I

Kdon't believe that any relationship prior to the one that you in now has anything to do with your relationship like that you're having now actually well no like you were based up until now

Brian Atlasno no not even that not like that so good no the people they've been with I'm not saying so umit are you going to go back let me ask you a question let me ask you a question had sex with wa let me ask you a

Brian Atlasquestion so let's say you're pursuing a guy is there a girl that a guy could have gotten with that would make you like turned off because he got with her was I his girl at the time no no no you

Kbut in his past he like some chick okay was that was that was I with him at that time no that's not my business I wasn't in his life at that point okay here here let me let me try to think of I'm Sor I'm not immature if a girl I'm trying to think of a guy that

Brian Atlaswould like totally put me off of wanting to be with a girl if a girl seal what's wrong with seal that what you would you would stay with her I mean I no no

Kbut that that one song from the 9s is kind of a band sex is like so appealing to people then they need to get their like can S no I don't I don't even

Kknow like sex with plent people has he even made any news music it's been a minute he had one hit in the '90s okay I've had sex with plenty of people I would never I but that's not something I

Kbring up to my freaking lover if someone fzy tube that's oh okay I'm going to get I know famous people I don't care for I don't ins my life like that that we don't know who that is over

Khere know famous people that's the problem I do not waste my time going on social media like that I swear to God know I don't even leave my room I don't play video games I don't do anything

Ksocial media is not all to life I go to the beach and I read I have a shakery board or a bonfire like there's more to life than being maybe this is something that's more pronounced in men like as a

Brian Atlasguy if you know a girl a certain dude and you like you don't have respect I totally get that yeah like if they T your brother like what does what does that have to do with anything cuz

Kthey're probably thinking oh he probably did really good on her and that's icky or or or it could be necessarily that guy's an icky person in general and you've been with him so gross I don't like you no it's either it's she clearly

Danliked him enough to do that and therefore he she is bonded to that guy which makes her less inclined to bond to me as quickly as I would like her to oh and the fact that she was bonded to him

Kat one point and is now trying to bond with me there's a chance that that Bond could be broken again see I understand that but some people leave their ex's for reason and

Kchoose not to go back and want to rebond with someone else they don't want to a pattern well then that's their problem they need to get themselves fixed right but you're saying it doesn't matter it's none of your business what they did in the past if they if they're really upset

Leila Jennerabout it I'm not going to get upset with them like oh you her cool you're with me now n but what if it's like your best friend or like your brother your girl like I would be like straight up like not I feel like it doesn't have to be someone you're like really close

Kto like there's a few people where I'm like yeah it could be if I heard that he had been with her before I'd be like really turned off like ask how felt or I just wouldn't act upon like you the only time I ever did

Kcar is when I was so insecure about the way I looked that I was like oh he's been with her like why does he want me I don't I don't like him anymore like he likes he likes like no now I'm like okay well he's with me for

Rachela reason and I'm not going to think into such a Negative mindset that he doesn't want to be with me anymore just are we just diing looked sex with or what they done if you like R the streets and ran

Rachelthrough every girl of course gu I've never looked in that direction like oh she was really pretty like I'm intimidated like was there ever a girl that you like really hated in high school yes I'm thinking of one specific

Kgirl who has like who literally said if a guy my twoe relationship boyfriend on his birthday I hated that girl but I that was I was I was so young and so stupid and living with him that I didn't

Brian Atlasrealize I could have walked out of that man's life at any given moment I think maybe this is a difference between men and women but if there's I almost wonder if women are more inclined to a guy who has slept with a a woman that they

Brian Atlashate because it's almost like some sort of Revenge whereas for men if you a guy we hate that is like the biggest turn off or or a guy we really

Danlike it's all just personal preference like one of my boys oh my God the moment that my like I could be incredibly interested in a girl like potentially oh my God our Vibe was great she's like the future love of my life she might be the one the moment that she dates one of my

Danfriends there is a switch in my head that goes never there's a difference between ho and then going with someone like random random if they're like no I'm not saying it's out of friendship sorry important that's not out of

Kfriendship it's literally just ingrained in my head she's no longer attractive out of respect to my I'm not going to go with the guys that I don't want to be her esimo sister I want to be her sister like you oh here's a good one if if a

Rachelgirl a guy with a bunch of face tattoos for some that I'm like you're done no I I don't care wait what about postmalone would with that I have 32 tatos I mean I

Kwouldn't but I'm like he's so sweet tattoos are amazing I have 32 face tattoos yeah I I will I literally have always wanted like a little Rose like right here have you a guy with

Leila Jennerwith like face blasted with face stat not blasted with face tto a CP just a couple SoundCloud rapper just a couple you're done cute little broken heart little Zan moment I haven't am I on the table Yeah have my boyfriend like dated

Katiethe female equivalent of that before me I'd be like like that's a big turn off Fair face T very unattractive just like I think I'm kind that's the only reason I get

Brian Atlastattoos tattoos wait let's ask the chat Nick if you can pull up the chat really quick yo chat what kind of girl would or sorry what kind of guy would a girl have to

Brian Atlassleep with you can give us some details descriptive uh terms what kind of guy would a girl Jesus I can't think of my words right now what kind of guy would

Kbe if a girl hooked up with him would it just be a nogo for you to pursue the girl rappers flavor flave a vegan vegan

Ka vegan a felon my father yeah that's a good example like if she yeah my father that's that's awful that's disgusting wait question if I uh wait hold on I

Kdon't care just say it just say it like if me and your mom got down my mom's a yes go for it you but would you would you date me if I had just got with your mom no oh my god um I just think

Kyou're a little old for that so obviously no like I'm in the I'm in a good mindset no but anyone anyone that your mom oh anyone that that has sex with my mom I don't I'm not going to like them regardless cuz they talked to

Leila Jennermy mother yeah that's weird why would I like you like like a bad example do I don't my mom I guess trying to make public I don't with my mom publicly she's a piece of knows what she

Racheldoes no we have really shitty parents you can't say that we have really shitty your kid in a car whenever she's 14 I haven't spoke to my dad in years but I'm not going to come out and publicly that's a level respect okay see what we do different things for work for life

Leila Jennerand that's maybe where I would never speak negatively about my parents on a platform I don't even consider them parents they I understand where you're I live with my grandma my entire life too yeah I would never talk about my grandma the

Rachelpeople who raised me no okay we get it sry it's not even sad that none of this makes me sad it's all a Learning lesson it makes me sad it makes me sad that guys that's why I have dadd and my values lay in a different place but

Kthat's okay I respect you know everyone grows up a lot differently than others and that's 100% that's the whole reason why we all like the way we do that's why I don't get upset with like that's why

Brian AtlasI'm not yes in the same industry as you okay I have a chat here from wait let me read this before I pull it up um Leila can you read this oh wait hold

Leila Jenneron it's going to C in just a sec the hell is feminism that word is not even in my vocabulary also Leila I'm a guess you and Zera do Coke together every

Leila Jennerother night so no wonder you have like 20 brain cells but don't worry so does he so zura's coke supplier what's up me

Leila Jennerand zura do not do cocaine together and every time that we get off to go to the bathroom it's cuz we genuinely have to

Brian Atlaspee Bas tion's awesome okay um okay oh okay I had some more stuff here uh let

Brian Atlasme see let me pull up my notes so uh let's see you you don't do o correct no o never okay okay never um you say you

Brian Atlascan you consider yourself more like conservative traditional yes correct but so you said that in your notes to us us you had a sugar daddy while I had a boyfriend mhm and this is the sugar

Racheldaddy this is the same person have you ever had any other sugar daddies never in my life this is the only one yeah okay by the book I would call it that so no no blurred lines between prostitution

Racheland whatever yes were but you you did have a sugar daddy and my boyfriend was completely okay with it oh he knew that's good yeah yeah he he was under the he he did say like I don't want at

Rachelthis time we're not together anymore I don't want anyone else to know because naturally Society is going to blur the lines which I agree but yes no 100% that's a fact well it's not bad at what you're saying you're literally saying

Kthis man who took like was my friend noticed that I could use a little bit of help he in whatever way took me under his wing and help me I don't think that is that's bad at all it's all platonic you're not giving him sex you're not kissing him you're not telling him that

Kyou love him nothing and even close to that so I at that point it's not really even sugar babying it's actually literally just a really really good friend no because you're not love with him you're not you're not convincing him

Katiethat you love him I'm not I don't think it's like bad what you do like I'm not shaming you like do your own thing but I I personally would see it like I'm giving another man my attention you know

Kit would just be like a person talk about business you said it's all ptic so I don't see any type of like love coming from like flirting and time more there is no there's no

Rachellike it's the same way I would talk to like you as if you were my friend friend or Alison if she's my friend but what we talk about is strictly business not strictly business I'll take that out um we talk about business we talk about um

Rachellife like where he's at in life where I'm at in life with no sexual anything attached so let's not that man like knows that he doesn't have a chance he

Rachelvery much so on the same page he cares about me as if I was like his uncle right yeah like I was his niece like he he genin was like are you good like are you okay that he's never implied any

Rachelsexual Tendencies or anything in between but attention wise now if I'm telling him like I'm sending the photos or I'm like being like Oh I'm Into You like so send me something that's never what it's been it's genuinely like as if you were

Racheltalking to and I can't speak on your family but um like your uncle your family and they were like let me help you but that is by definition now a

Brian Atlassugar baby e z mode okay so uh you also said in your pre-show notes to us that you had to convince a guy to take the clap oh wa by lying and

Rachelsay sorry what did you say wait I didn't hear any of that I either either wait Brian can we not do that one again actually can we can we no can we not I'm asking you said in the

Brian Atlasnotes you said you convincing guy do it okay let's go to you to take the clap Pill by lying and saying something a good let's do it let's go let's

Leila Jennerdo it is it do it let's do it let's do me wait read that again Brian what yeah what did you say I didn't hear anything I he either don't worry about that well if it's going to be on the podcast I'm

Kgoing to worry about it I'm a God you should have been listening the first two none of us could hear there's so many people talking over each other I literally couldn't hear women unite so in your pre-show notes to us can I say

Rachelit yeah go ahead go ahead tell the story okay so this isn't a personal story of mine but um oh okay it was a friend you asked specifically any

Rachelinteresting stories and I said I've got plenty okay what is it I'm so interested um okay so someone convincing someone else to take um a pill for the clap what

Rachelclamydia which is technically on the clap chyia are we all on the same page now wait they convinced him to take a pill for it well let me speak can some convincing someone to take a pill for the Clap by telling them that it's a

Racheldifferent pill it's not this why didn't they want to take it they didn't want to sorry sorry sorry they didn't want to tell them that they had chyia wow wow that's but but what are your views what were what are your views do you agree

Brian Atlaswith that wait hold on you tell the full story okay okay wait so cuz everyone's asking questions I'm not close to the you ask us a question let me let me try to clarify in the pre-show message I don't know if it's you I don't

Brian Atlasknow if it's a friend of yours convincing a guy to take the the pill the antibiotics for chlamydia by lying and saying it was something else yes so okay what what's the component of I

Rachelsaying something else okay so let's let's play it out okay so you find out you have chyia you want to tell someone this is I I'll play it as if it was me it was not me um and I find out my boy

Rachellike I have chyia now my boyfriend has chyia without me knowing or with without him knowing and so someone literally

Rachelsaid um like I get BB like my vagina like is thrown off by um pH so like you coming inside me whatever and said take this pill

Rachelit'll no not on me no that's that's smart but like no it's terrible but yes and and um lied to them and just said like my pH is off so you have to take this pill it'll balance it out and they

Brian Atlaslike they fully took it what that's crazy that's not how that work I'm not going to lie no it is it is it is have no is boric you're telling me that

Rachelthere's get rid boric a is a suppository it's AIT that a girl takes that a girl takes but you made you convinced him to take it like a pill no no no not boric acid no I know but you called it boric acid that's didn't convince anyone to do

Rachelthis but you're playing the part you're playing the part not this friend not this friend do not point to her on camera so you have you have a f friend a really good friend I think you know who

Rachelthis person is to I'm not disclosing no it's not ra ra wait I know who it is anyways move on what was your question before can can you whisper it to me I won't I

Rachelwon't say it just whisper no yeah after the show not right now okay so said and let me like defend myself you said any interesting stories and I'm like who this is what I have to

Brian Atlasoffer okay so if I can let me just reiterate so I make sure we all understand you had a friend who I suppose she cheated on her boyfriend or some no she got she was having sex

Brian Atlasgot into a relationship with someone wasn't STD checked and then okay so she was sleeping with multiple guys got into a relationship turns out she has the

Brian Atlasclap she has chyia so she's dating a guy and she assumes that she gave the new guy she found out yes yes okay and so

Rachelwhat she did was instead of just saying Hey listen I yes got I got like here take this pill I got V she was she was ashamed she was ashamed she was embarrassed because it's not something

Rachelno no she literally said but how does he know it worked oh my God what do you mean how does he know it work CU sometimes it doesn't work yeah how do what doesn't work the pill sometimes it doesn't work well I don't know I guess

Brian Atlasyou don't have sex for days okay so the friend gave the guy I don't know some antibiotic told him it was something

Brian Atlaselse 100% yeah I'm pretty sure that's a felony but okay that's why you're saying whisper it right now I'm like not on camera I'm just saying like you can't be

Brian Atlasgiving people pills and I would assume that that's like somehow has to be yeah so would you do that what would you do what would you do in your circumstance I think should just tell us

Brian AtlasI definitely wouldn't like lie to them and say hey here's a vitamin but it's actually a antibiotic that you might be allergic to and die from but okay die from yeah some people could

Brian Atlasbe allergic color medicine so messed up on so many I suppose it's I suppose it's one step better than you hear stories of people like crushing up pills and secretly

Rachelputting it in food yeah that's valid at least you said here's a pill but I don't think there's any at least C that's a yikes okay um is it though is it though what would your experience I I heard this and I was like well I mean if

Brian Atlasyou're not going to tell him it's ra it's better than him you got to living on because you they should have inform obviously there's a right yes obviously well informed consent to have of course it's wrong to give someone a pill tell

Rachelthem it's something else yes of course it's also wrong to but what would you have done if you were in the if you were in that reciprocated position where you were like under I wouldn't have been a coward and tried proba would came clean

Madisonevery other s person I don't know I probably would have done that but honestly it was a girl right did she know she had it was a female it was a female it was a female Fu okay it was a girl right yeah okay I mean you're not you don't have to

Brian Atlasconvince me like I know what the right thing to do was this would have been like the play look what she could have done she would have come clean she would have been like Hey listen I mean if she wanted to I don't advocate for lying but

Brian Atlaslike she could have at least in an effort to be transparent about the pill that she was trying to give him she could have said Hey listen um I've been asymptomatic with this for a long time I

Racheljust went and got tested maybe you gave it to me I don't know you back on him yeah what the that like come on come on could have been why it's very controversial it's very

Brian Atlascontroversial it could have firm but that's not but that's I'm not saying that that's the best thing you could have done but it's better than like he like what medicine they're to take like um

Brian Atlastwo rights don't make a wrong or like same same but different so I think you she could have look she wanted to do a little white lie she could have been like look I've been asymptomatic with this you're the you're the only guy I've

Brian Atlasit me take it no it's just she could have been like look I I was with a guy before you I've been asymptomatic this clears up really quick here's a pill like she should have look you should have been up front about that

Brian Atlasyeah for sure yeah well I agree I agree that's crazy though that's why I've never heard that that is a yikes um let's see you have some more stories from us for for us me broke up broke up

Rachelwith six-year boyfriend I'm you're making a comeback right now what does that mean she was a big you're starting to like rock him back mine are good mine he asked me what are good stories I'm like here I got a

Brian Atlaslot okay you broke up with your six-year boyfriend to the guy you lost your virgin that is a fact at a young age at a young age yes 100% I still shout out to the hopefully that guy is still

Brian Atlaslistening to this no I absolutely did that I was are you asking me or wait the 5 to six year one that's not the most recent one correct okay so you broke up with your six-year boyfriend five to six

Rachelyes to the guy you lost your virginity too yeah Tac is very vulgar a vulgar way to put it but yes no I was going to Sweden to visit him and I was

Madisonwith a guy and um I I genuinely what nothing oh what is just reacting Oh I thought you said something I'm like why wait why were you visiting him when you had a boyfriend at the time I had well

Brian Atlasyeah we'll get really clear wait it's okay you had a five to six year boyfriend just a point of clarification you were going to visit the guy who you lost your virginity to in Sweden yes yes absolutely who who had I been good

Rachelfriends with for a long time and I told the guy that I was with I said I don't want to be with you I'm going to visit this guy also it ties into I have um the guy that I was having sex with when I was young has a best friend who's also

Brian Atlasone of my best friends so I was going to see her so you but okay you broke up with him before yes yes but okay be honest though when you were still in the relationship

Brian Atlaswere you communicating and planning this rendevu with Sweden man no no I'll say that with my chest no but you said you were still close friends with him and like talking to him yeah but we weren't communicating any Rondevu

Rachelor whatever you want to call it absolutely not do you think you can just be friends with the guy that you fck before when you're in a relationship with someone else you know what I I do think when I was younger I thought that now I would say absolutely not I think

Rachelthat once I learned these lessons and did these things now I'm like now I'm like no absolutely not only Pro yourself wrong way do you feel like you proved yourself wrong 100% yeah yeah

Leila Jenneryeah I mean like if I hadn't learned that lesson that way I would have never I would have never known I disagree we already went through you can people that are not friends I think we know what she can you I thought you saying can you wait what yeah wait you can

Rachelyou can you can people that are your friends yeah we're saying you can you still be friends saying you can't be friends with someone that you've already wait but I'm a little confused hold on hold on I'm just I don't think you can I think it's too many ties I'm

Brian Atlasjust a little confused here because in your pre-show message you said broke up with six-year boyfriend to F the guy I lost my virginity to so that makes it sound like okay wait also you asked and I very frequently like wrote it back to

Brian Atlasyou so if you're going to put it like batim for what I said it's very vulgar but no absolutely stop stop stop I'm not upset with the language you used what I'm trying to point out is I think you are

Brian AtlasI'm but you you mentioned the you're you're making it about the the word you said broke up with six-year boyfriend to the so like just just

Brian Atlasfor that so I'm asking I'm asking so that's broke the the reason you broke up with your boyfriend was to no so yeah that's how un clear and no so why did you break up with your boyfriend because I knew I was going to see this

Allisonperson and I knew I was going to see them and visit them so and probably that so you broke up him no you were bored with the relationship you wanted out you wanted

Allisonout of that relationship for yeah so maybe I used it as a crutch I used it as a crutch yeah to be like I'm going but you but you knew you were leaving and you wanted some fun or whatever but like that relationship was dead and gone for

Brian Atlasthe yeah that relationship was dead was it though it wasn't it was it was probably it was what are you saying it was too you're confusing us can I try to

Rachelsummarize please no well unless as long as we're going to have like a eye to eye respectful thing but yeah no be disect you're afraid of me disagreeing no not at all please disagree with me disagree

Danso you dated a guy for six years clearly it was like fading there were there were feelings lost how long did you know that the feeling were faded before you actually broke up with him I

Racheldon't know I was too young to decide that it was a total Learning lesson when did you start talking to the guy in Sweden I far before I ever dated the guy for 6 years when I was 12 when I was Rel

Rachelduring the relationship wait sorry what and continued to talk to him during the relationship did you talk to Sweden man the whole time you were dating this guy for five but but not talked like as like

Racheljust and then did the boyfriend know yes and then while you were dating and he was uncomfortable with it and I was like no we're friends and then I it was very clear like that's how we learn the lesson you can't talk to people you had

Dansex with and then while you were dating him you dating the six- year long relationship guy you planned a trip to Sweden to see my best to see your best

Danfriend yeah and then as that date was approaching you realized I'm probably going to sleep with this guy or somebody or or somebody so before so before I go

Allisonon this trip I need to end this relationship ship so not technically cheating uh well wait you guys were breaking up you saying it you guys were

Allisonon and off on theend it was it was very much over not how it happened but yes it was very much over but then you were going on this trip and I think you were like really the trip gave me the the excuse out I I was having a hard time I'm like oh my God I'm in love with this

Rachelguy I love this guy don't want to leave you this trip gave me the out I'm like I'm going to go and I'm going to be with my best friend AA I'm going to see this guy um there's a likely chance that I'm going to have interest in him I'm going

Rachelto use this as the out so I'm going to break out with break to the break so what you said is accurate so prior to the breakup you knew you going to meet up

Brian Atlashim what do you mean okay I have a couple questions so okay um was this like a summer trip it was during the summer yes okay so

Brian Atlashow how uh Sor I'm trying to gather the words for this sorry I'm I'm trying to I'm trying to figure out how to articulate

Brian Atlasthis okay when okay how much time you broke up with him and then did you leave the next day to go to Sweden no how much time before you left for the trip a week

RachelI mean I couldn't say exact I'd say like three months three months okay okay three months before the trip you broke up well I mean how like you book a flight early and then you're like well I'm not feeling this anymore before I

Rachelwas very checked out were out of that relationship yeah I didn't know how you knew each other at that point oh years before yeah I didn't know how to end it I was like Hey I'm going to that's this

Brian Atlasis a little bit redeeming because the way I was thinking is like you broke up a week before you left next day within three days of being in Sweden you

Dananother guy that's not how it happened no no but you did say that your motivation the out as you said it was the fact that you knew that you were going to potentially be intimate with a

Rachelguy in Sweden um not intimacy that I was into but not intimacy I think just being I still had interest yeah like I just still wanted to go and like be H girl summer wanted you wanted you wanted a

Rachelsingle summer can we wanted to cut the ties is it from your opinion say what you're saying CU you're trying to sum my up and make it like whatever what is your thoughts what are your thoughts like I'm No it's it's it's clarifying

Danwhat Brian was asking you you yeah you might have been out of the relationship mentally but the reason you ended it was because of another guy wrong I you know what I actually like

Brian Atlasthe way she's explained it assuming everything checks out uh I mean I don't think people like have to be chained like if it just the relationship

Brian Atlaswasn't working out I it's better than if she stayed in the relationship went on this Euro trip and like cheated on him right so I mean like that was in that last year you were not I mean

Rachellike it was a genuine thought process I was like I'm not into it like i' i' I've been with this guy I'm not going there too him i' i' I've I have Intimacy in the past with this guy I'm still I'm

Rachelstill in communication I'm interested in this person I happen to him yes or have sex with him however we want to put it but it wasn't no ill intention or ill will to hurt anyone it was a Learning lesson it was how I learned like I'm not

Brian Atlasmeant to be with this guy I have this interest I book this flight like here yeah I mean I think it's not the worst I mean how often do we tell people who cheat or want to cheat how hard is it to just look if you want to be with

Brian Atlassomeone else just break up and the relationship you did that so right I think yeah the three it was three months from the time you I would say minimum

Allisonyeah minimum minimum yeah cuz you didn't you didn't end it to go to Sweden to go have sex no that relationship needed to end

DanI'm just trying to F no I'm not saying that you did anything I'm not saying you did anything wrong here okay I think first of all it's a very very it's a very very common thing that girls will stay in relationships and sort of plan the breakup right they start to Market

Rachelthem I'm not going to impulsively leave someone if it if it might work out and there's feelings that are still there too they linger I but but you start to Market yourself to other men before you pull the trigger on a breakup sorry what was that you Market yourself to other

Rachelmen before you actually pull the trigger on a bre well I wasn't marketing myself it was just in my head well look you were technically marketing yourself to this guy you dated someone and you've never been like oh this relationship just needs to end I'm not thinking about

Brian Atlasanything else I think what you're saying absolutely isn't it the case though when when women are starting to angle for ending a relationship that not always but there's usually some other guy that

Dan100% they're looking every time no women are never single that's that's that's basically the same they're never single you always you you always have another guy you

Allisonalways have another guy that's ready I don't agree with that I could see why but no I get me I get what you're saying I should talk about that later I'll be here all night me God Ryan you're

Dangetting rubbed in no again I want to make crystal clear I'm not saying that the way that you went about it was wrong I'm saying that you said in the earlier

Dandescription that the actual Catalyst for the off official breaking of ties with the guy in the six-year relationship was the fact that you knew you had feelings for the guy in Sweden and were going to

Danvisit him so by definition maybe you didn't break up with him to this other guy but you broke up with him because of this other guy there were other reason but even if I don't think that's the case but even if it was wouldn't you find that respectful that I

Danwas like I'm going to end with you because I'm having other thoughts no that's what I just said I said I don't think you're doing anything wrong what I'm saying is I think I think that this was accurate the way that you previously described it you said I it was on the

Danouts I really wasn't feeling it but then there was this other guy that I realized I had feelings for so I officially end not that I realized I had feelings for that i' had had connection with in the past and that yes come came I mean to

Madisonadd to that oh go ahead Madison then were in contact with this Sweden guy the whole relationship during the whole time you had your relationship knowing knowing knowing your boyfriend was

Racheluncomfortable with it though um that's what you said that's what you said yeah yeah but me knowing that that the whole time wasn't a fact okay I didn't know that the whole time until he made it a point but yes I want to I want to give

Brian Atlassome advice to the the men watching if there's any young men watching three things three things um under absolutely no circumstance especially if it's like a high school relationship and you're

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