HEATED DEBATE With College Girls & RAGEQUIT KEEKO! | Dating Talk #104

Date: 2023-09-27
Duration: 4h 52m

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00TTS Reader(audience)
SPEAKER_02Mandy(guest)
SPEAKER_03Priya(guest)
SPEAKER_04Summer(guest)
SPEAKER_05Mira(guest)
SPEAKER_06Grace (Juice)(guest)
SPEAKER_07Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_08Audio Clips(audience)
SPEAKER_09Hannah(guest)
SPEAKER_10Jill(guest)
SPEAKER_11Kiko(guest)
SPEAKER_12Emily(guest)
SPEAKER_13Mandy(guest)
SPEAKER_14Katie(guest)

Key Moments

00:00:09
IntroBrian opens the show explaining 16 flakes occurred across 72 hours. Lists flakers by name: Bianca, Cara, Tiffany, Isabella DeLuca, Claudia, Marina, Chloe, Josie, Samantha, Sarah, Cassidy, Briona, Brianna, Roxy, Taylor, Wendy, Christina. Credits Madison and Nick for doing a street walk to find 7 guests in 1 hour.

welcome to the whatever dating Talk podcast... we had 16 people flake

00:06:19
IntroGuests introduce themselves in order: Kiko (23, criminology student), Mandy (21, UCSB classics/art history), Emily (19, UCSB senior econ/comms), Jill (18, UCSB dance), Mira (18, UCSB biopsych), Summer (18, UCSB pre-stats/data science), Hannah (20, UCSB brain sciences), Katie (18, UCSB history), Grace/Juice (36, server, Costa Rica), Priya (22, ASU online, equestrian).

without further Ado we're going to have the guests introduce themselves

00:10:24
RelationshipKiko: in a relationship, 9 months. Longest past relationship 2 years.

um I'm in a relationship and my longest relationship was like two years

00:14:00
RelationshipMandy (SPEAKER_02): super single, 3-4 years. One relationship over 1 year (high school). Has never even talked to anyone since. No social media — made her first Snapchat account while waiting in the studio.

um I'm super single I had I've been in one relationship it was over a year long

00:23:13
RelationshipSummer describes open arrangement with True (in flight school in AZ, her first boyfriend, she is his first girlfriend). She set terms: both can see other people while in college. She is visiting him at Thanksgiving.

I'm going to college and then the guy that I'm talking to is living in Arizona going to flight school

00:33:37
Key MomentEmily reveals she has never had social media and made her first Snapchat while waiting outside the studio. She describes avoiding all dating because of how guys in the current culture act.

oh yeah I had no social media right before um actually while I was waiting to come up to this studio I made a Snapchat

00:36:36
RelationshipGrace/Juice: single 2 years, two relationships total (one 2 years). No current situationship.

well I'm single right now I've had like two relationships and like several situationships

00:47:16
Key MomentEmily (SPEAKER_12) confronted by Brian: "the guys that are hot know they're hot and that's the bad part." She describes approaching a guy during move-in weekend who was overconfident. Brian challenges whether she is shooting out of her league.

the guys that are hot know they're hot and that's the bad part

00:49:50
Key MomentMandy reveals a guy from SBCC (community college) fully impersonated a UCSB student — wore UCSB merch, met her at a campus event, registered her at UCSB events — for weeks before admitting he didn't attend.

there are guys from the community college that pretend to go to UCSB

01:43:39
Key MomentJill reveals she is a virgin waiting until marriage. Confirmed by Brian; she says she also believes in premarital cuddling but not sex.

I'm single and I've never been in a relationship before... yeah I would say for sure [waiting until marriage]

01:59:00
ControversyGrace/Juice reveals that a wealthy older friend (nearly 60) funded first-class trips to New York, Hawaii, Las Vegas (~9 trips), paid her rent twice, and gave a $14,000 check — without any sexual or romantic contact whatsoever. Brian does live math totaling the value.

he gave me one time a check... fourteen thousand dollars

02:05:00
Key MomentMandy (SPEAKER_02) reveals she was offered $5,000 by a Tinder hookup to sleep with him again. She declined, citing safety concerns (power dynamic shift when a man pays). He immediately blocked her. She later encountered him awkwardly at her workplace.

he offered to pay me um to sleep with him... he was like five grand

02:13:00
ControversyEmily makes the core argument: if all women raised their standards, men would be forced to change their behavior. Kiko counterargues: there will always be some women participating in hookup culture, so collective action won't work — instead find men who don't want hookup culture.

if all girls raise their standards a little bit it will force the guys to have to change the way they act

02:37:19
Key MomentRole-play segment: Brian pretends to be a woman; Summer plays a man hitting on him at a bar. Summer's approach involves asking about horses (equestrian major), which Brian plays along with.

hey can I buy you a drink oh sure... what school do you go to... equestrian equestrian that's hello

02:42:38
Key MomentJill plays a woman at Trader Joe's during role-play. Her responses are painfully awkward — she has never flirted. "Does Trader Joe's even have one?" Brian tries to coach her ("ask me what my major is") but she fails to follow through.

like literally I've never done this I've never done this no I've never flirted with anybody

02:50:48
ControversyKiko's rhetorical win moment: "You guys said women need to close their legs because they're sleeping with everyone. But then you say men can't get laid. Which one is it?" — the contradiction silences Brian briefly.

women are sleeping with everybody don't know how to close their legs or men can't find anybody to sleep with

03:06:20
ControversyKiko confronts red pill influencer consumption: cites Sneako being shocked when 12yo boys at a baseball game said "kill all women." Argues red pill content is radicalizing young men who lost social development years during COVID.

these random kids run up to him in a baseball game and they're literally like 12 year old little boys and they're like yeah women all women we hate women like kill women kill all women

03:18:40
QuoteEmily: "I think it's delusional to pretend like missandry is so prevalent and also even if it was super prevalent that it's equivalent to misogyny." Argues female man-haters are almost never physically dangerous whereas misogynistic men are.

I also think it's delusional to pretend like missandry is so prevalent

03:25:00
ControversyBrian argues patriarchy theory is a conspiracy theory that breeds contempt for men. Kiko and Emily argue mainstream feminism is first-wave equality, not radical. Brian challenges: "Has any feminist organization ever lobbied to equalize the draft?" Brian cites feminist terrorism (Andy Warhol shooting).

if you start teaching women that they are oppressed and the person to blame is this other gender men

04:26:38
Key MomentGrace/Juice says Andrew Tate content is better understood when watched in full. Mandy (SPEAKER_02) aggressively disagrees — says his videos asking about body counts are degrading. Brian offers to play Tate video. Discussion of whether viewing full context changes perception.

if you really like go in and look at the videos of them speaking it will change your perception completely of them

04:33:58
Key MomentBrian plays Fresh & Fit clip of Tate talking about emotional connection mattering more than sexual technique. Most guests (including Emily) endorse the clip's message. Kiko: "right message, wrong sponsor." Emily agrees Tate's diagnoses are often right but lifestyle prescriptions are wrong.

sex sex this position that position don't you feel like you get to a point in your life with something more than that

04:49:15
QuoteEmily on agreeing with Tate's emotional connection clip: "right message, wrong sponsor" — encapsulates her view of Andrew Tate throughout the episode.

it's like right message wrong sponsor again like yeah

Topics Discussed

00:00:00
Introductions & Backstory of Flakes

Brian explains that 16 people flaked in 72 hours before the show; 7 guests were recruited from the Santa Barbara streets 1 hour before. Guests introduce themselves: Kiko (co-host, 23, criminology), Mandy (21, classics/art history), Emily (19, econ/comms senior), Jill (18, dance), Mira (18, biopsych), Summer (18, pre-stats), Hannah (20, brain sciences), Katie (18, history), Grace/Juice (36, server, Costa Rica), Priya (22, ASU, equestrian).

00:10:24
Relationship Status Round

Each guest shares relationship status. Kiko: in relationship 9 months. Mandy: single 3-4 years, bisexual. Emily: super single, one year relationship 3+ years ago. Jill: single, never had relationship, summer fling only. Summer: open arrangement with True (AZ). Summer talks about D1 football player in Colorado she ghosted. Hannah: long-distance boyfriend at Cal Poly. Katie: single her whole life (18). Grace: single 2 years. Priya: new relationship (~1 month).

00:15:00
UCSB & College Hookup Culture

Discussion of UCSB's reputation as a party/hookup school. Guests debate whether women should close their legs / raise their standards. Emily argues that when some women accept low-effort hookup culture it forces others into a market with lower standards. Kiko pushes back: women with high standards should just seek men who don't want hookup culture rather than trying to change the pool. Girls discuss being approached at frats, pushy guys, and encounter with a man who faked being a UCSB student.

02:00:00
Sugar Daddies & Transactional Relationships

Brian asks about sugar daddy offers, fly-outs, and men offering money. Mandy: got "will fund your life" DMs but declined immediately. Summer: was offered $5,000 by a Tinder hookup to sleep with him again; declined. Grace: reveals a wealthy older friend (~60yo) funded first-class travel (New York, Hawaii, Las Vegas, 8-9 trips total), paid rent twice, gave a $14,000 check — all without any sexual contact.

02:03:20
Dating Apps & Body Count Discussion

Brian analyzes Bumble dynamic (women send "hey" then men carry conversation). Discussion of whether women controlling access to sex means they control relationships. Debate: are women with high body counts less desirable even for one-night stands? Brian argues men prefer lower body count even for casual sex. Mandy disagrees. Kiko: body count is relative to the man's. Long exchange about whether high-body-count women still provide relationship value.

02:35:00
Men's Access to Sex vs Women's

Can a mid-level man just go out and get laid? Kiko argues yes if he targets women comparable to him. Brian is skeptical. Role-play exercise: Brian pretends to be a woman; Summer plays the man hitting on her (horse topic). Jill plays a very awkward/unresponsive woman. Debate over whether men and women have comparable access to casual sex; Kiko argues men do accumulate bodies by targeting easy women rather than through skill.

03:03:20
Red Pill Content & Its Effects on Men

Discussion of Andrew Tate, Fresh & Fit, Sneako and their influence on young men. Kiko argues red pill content creates isolated, objectifying mindsets (cites Sneako at baseball game with 12yo boys saying "kill all women"). Priya agrees Tate's diagnoses are often correct but prescriptions are harmful. Emily defends some red pill content as raising awareness of male loneliness. Brian plays Andrew Tate "lonely men" video clip.

03:08:20
Feminism & Patriarchy Debate

Extended debate: is feminism about equality or women's advocacy? Is patriarchy theory accurate? Brian argues teaching women they are oppressed breeds contempt for men. Kiko and Emily argue mainstream feminism is first-wave (equality) not radical. Discussion of feminist studies requirements at UCSB, media portrayals of men, HR departments, circumcision as male oppression (Brian's example). Emily: missandry is much less dangerous than misogyny statistically. Brian cites Andy Warhol being shot.

04:23:20
Andrew Tate Video Reactions

Brian plays two Andrew Tate video clips: (1) Tate on male loneliness — touches on men who never get DMs or attention; all guests agree male loneliness is real. (2) Tate/Fresh & Fit on body count forehead branding — would 99% of problems be solved if women wore body counts on foreheads? Mixed responses. (3) Andrew Tate on sex being about emotional connection, not technique — almost all guests agree with this clip. Brian wraps show.

Transcript

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03:54:13
Brian Atlasokay Rick bungle uh shouting out the passport Pros there's there's some uh I think there's some you know there's good women in the U.S yeah I would like to say I'm one of them
03:54:24
Brian Atlaswell there you go all right let me get the rest here all right we have um Mike Davis not so long Mike Davis you sound like a creep from
03:54:37
Brian AtlasLiam and the girls seem to agree Mike Davis okay all right Mike Davis has always gone a little bit too hard sometimes okay MK Dev straight I feel like I'm a
03:54:48
Brian Atlassolid seven tried ABS tried in person bars cough shops wherever it's not always a number game just saying Kiko do you have a response to this yeah I'm sorry you're not having luck it sounds like you're trying out a lot of
03:55:01
Kikoavenues so like that totally sucks um I would think back now and see what is the core of this issue is it how you're approaching them is it how you're coming off is it your conversational skills um I would try to say at that point
03:55:14
Brian Atlaslet's pinpoint what's going on with that but I'm sorry you haven't had luck you can hire Kiko for her dating coach services.com
03:55:27
Brian Atlashow much money how much money do you think Eco could make if she's starting probably like five figures a month just saying I would never do it okay all right puffy
03:55:37
KatieVegas girls puffy Vegas says Girls just want sex that actually doesn't say sex it says SX oh excuse me
03:55:50
Kikoyou can't sleep with girls girls just want sex I mean they're unapproachable I mean which one is it well I don't think we shouldn't trust anything that puffy Vegas says we have bmla y'all whack La sucks okay
03:56:01
Brian Atlasthank you [Laughter] brickson the chat is demanding the return of gorlock to the whatever podcast personally I would like to see gorlock next to Kiko on the future podcast soon please deliver on this
03:56:14
Brian Atlasrequest um I am in talks with Al Weezy okay and let's not let's not use the gore lock name Kiko might get upset um
03:56:24
Brian AtlasI've been talking to Al Wheezy she's it's in the works I I actually try to get her on this Sunday but it's in the works it's in the works thank you man appreciate it rick hiko
03:56:38
Brian Atlasget back in the gym you know why Brian I appreciate the Pod but one of these days do you have something to say that the gym comment I mean I still go five times five to six times a week all right Brian I appreciate the Paw but women
03:56:50
Brian Atlasthese days especially the younger ones will never learn to appreciate hard-working middle class masculine men like myself wait dude do it again oh RV RBT okay uh they grew up on fairy
03:57:03
Kikotales like Prince Charming hashtag think about it Cry Me a River the prince is in the princess and all those stories didn't even do too much like they're literally just inherited
03:57:17
Kikomoney or some crap they weren't even trying that hard so I don't know where that example is even coming from all right and then we have Liam La yo Brian your mods trying to ban me okay um yeah because you keep saying you're being alone you know you got to
03:57:30
Brian Atlasbe careful there with some of the terms you use because uh it's an approach it might be uh inappropriate just saying all right Liam Ellie thank you for your patronage man much appreciated okay we need to react to two videos and then uh pull up the twitch really quick and then
03:57:43
Brian Atlaswe'll do the two videos then we're gonna wrap yo guys go to twitch.tv slash whatever drop us a follow drops a prime sub if you have one so let me see where we're at Quentin thing for the prime King thing for the prime
03:57:54
Brian AtlasZelda thing for the prime normal thing for the prime Panda thing for the prime uh snack thank you very much for the Prime thank you guys appreciate it okay so we had two videos that we were gonna
03:58:06
Brian Atlasreact to no two videos we could do the Tate we could do the tape could do the tape yeah should we do I think we should do two because Tate came up what did we do we could do what's the
03:58:18
Brian Atlashmm let's see what's a good one uh
03:58:28
Brian Atlasuh we could do the one the loneliness one that it's it's not gonna it's not super triggering but sugar rest Brian well I could do the body count one let's do the body count one okay we've done it a million times no we'll do the lung in
03:58:41
TTS Readerthis one then we'll do the body count one demo okay uh let's see so Nick if you can pull up the Tate lonely and then the Tate Body Count clip oh loose is the energy donated
03:58:53
TTS Reader99.99 yeah frico is an expert in circumcision she knows all about peepees she got more bodies than shang's son your soul is
03:59:04
TTS Readermine look in awe also Maddie's in denial with that ring from Toys R Us it's actually from Pandora um I've never said I was an expert in
03:59:16
Kikocircumcision I said from the few amount of men I've talked about it and I've never spoken to any men I've hooked up with over circumcision they were more
03:59:26
Kikofriends and acquaintances not you have like one dude who you've talked about with no there's multiple you talk about circumcision it was like it was brought up like randomly like probably throughout high
03:59:39
Kikoschool and stuff but it's mostly these conversations happened after this has happened on social media where everyone's advocating for anti-circumcision I yeah I asked them straight up like okay how do you feel about that how do you feel about your
03:59:51
Kikomeat being cut seriously like I want to know like I have no other way to know but to ask I don't have one so I would like to get a first hand knowledge on it before I make up a whole predisposed argument
04:00:06
Brian Atlasokay next you have the video oh it's a video podcast videos tape
04:00:16
Brian Atlasyeah Dropbox Dropbox podcast video state good times good times good
04:00:28
Unknownyou're gonna what I don't know why I'm not seeing it you got to go to Dropbox podcast videos tape
04:00:40
Brian Atlasyou know dude's case well he was uh released from jail and then he was placed on house arrest and then he was
04:00:50
Brian Atlasum released from house arrest and I believe he's able to roam Romania I think he's still required to stay in Romania I actually haven't watched updates besides that
04:01:06
Brian Atlasuh I'm trying to think which one let's do the Tate fnf lonely because we kind of talked about that I need to get up for a sec while that plays and then I I'll stay for the lonely and then yeah
04:01:21
Brian Atlascan I use the bathroom to work I'll be a dork all right don't mind the just the BS sad music that the editor put over there all right go ahead I don't think
04:01:32
Audio Clipsmost women can actually genuinely understand how lonely the majority of men are
04:01:42
Audio Clipsaverage in nearly every way in Starbucks working you ain't getting a DM ever two girls two girls will never be lonely as much
04:01:53
Audio Clipsas you might be unhappy with the possible suitors you can at least about flirt if you feel sad there are men out here in the world who have genuine loneliness I mean I can prove
04:02:06
Brian Atlasthis statistically why do you think it's all the men killing themselves compared to the women wow okay he took it very dark and dark there of why men are killing themselves
04:02:18
Kikoum I actually disagree I think men kill themselves for mental health reasons yeah they were usually related to like statistically it's usually related to financial issues at least thank you manage yeah I'm sure there's a lot of
04:02:30
Kikolonely men out there and they have very serious mental health issues that they don't feel like they could talk about because they're told to be tough and to brush it off so definitely but he's saying that the majority of men kill himself because they're lonely when
04:02:41
Summerstatistically that's not right okay you had friends or well no I just think based off of like not only firsthand but like majority of people I talk to like
04:02:53
Summermen do go through loneliness and I do agree that it is a lot easier like we were talking about before like woman it's a lot easier for like you to find a date you to flirt than guys necessarily it's like they're not obviously like and
04:03:06
Summerit's not our fault that we're not the ones like oh like yeah the men are dming us but like realistically like girls are gonna get more DMS than guys so I can definitely see like his point of view like I'm not saying like oh my gosh I'm an Andrew Tate standby anyway or shape
04:03:19
Summeror form but I'm saying it is valid like men do have a lot of mental health issues they are very like I can see that how like lonely is like being lonely is like a problem for them and I do think
04:03:30
Kikothat part of the reason men kill themselves is partially because they are lonely I do I can do that I I'm I'm that's exactly yes I've never seen them men don't kill themselves so why do you
04:03:42
Kikothink the majority so I would just point out the word majority yeah but yeah it definitely is a yeah there's a lot of men who are lonely and it's I see that as a problem but that's
04:03:53
Kikowhy they have to just stress Less on kind of a friendship cannot always fulfill the shoes of a companion like a true partner companionship um but yeah he has a point
04:04:06
Kikobut that's just a video of him saying that what's his advice after what is his call to action how does he help them resolve that problem instead of just pointing out to more men that they're lonely I think it also raises a little bit of
04:04:19
Priyaawareness for women because I think a lot until I'm not saying that so I think that Andrew Tate's diagnoses
04:04:30
Priya75 80 85 of the time are pretty damn accurate I don't agree with his prescriptions 80 of the time I think majority of the time it's super um completed to his lifestyle of you
04:04:41
Priyaknow you know it's it's a very um what's the word I'm looking for double-edged sword no not double-edged sword I think he portrays a lifestyle that is really unrealistic for a lot of
04:04:54
Priyapeople obviously and I don't think a lot of the life the lifestyle choices he made or he makes are morally correct and um and necessary for human flourishing
04:05:05
Priyabut I agree that he brings up a lot of points that have been ignored until very recently and until people like him have come into the social media space good
04:05:16
Kikopoint but like I see that he's telling men or telling women trying to bring it to their attention but women aren't watching Andrew Tate men are I know he has women around them but the thousands of people everyone who's watching are
04:05:28
Kikomajority of men so I just feel like that is just pointing out to them more that they're lonely and I was like how you said unattainable lifestyle if anything he's making men think that what he's doing is this average thing that they
04:05:40
Kikoall should be doing and making them feel more sad and behind in life so maybe it's right message wrong sponsor because yeah he just told men oh you're lonely you can't do anything this is why you
04:05:52
Priyaguys kill yourselves sad music video shuts off yeah well I mean obviously that was just a clip from a whole podcast but um I mean I haven't seen a whole lot of Andrew Tate's content especially as
04:06:05
Priyalong-form content the only things that I've really seen him in terms of like a call to action and a prescription to um like advice for men on a on a broad
04:06:16
Priyaon a broad level is essentially like get a job do something that's going to be productive to society and get get into the gym make yourself essentially more attractive to women because
04:06:27
Priyaif we get down to the base level of it with I know we talked about feminism a lot and I'm not going to get into it too too much but feminism has essentially
04:06:36
Priyaespecially in recent waves has told women that you don't need men and men are being overlooked a lot of the times because of that now so they don't feel valued they don't feel that they need to
04:06:48
Priyaput any effort into their appearance their lifestyle their jobs because they're not going to get anything out of it in their eyes obviously but I think raising awareness for this helps them
04:07:00
Priyalike see that there is going to be hope that they should put in put effort into their lifestyle into how they present themselves into the things that they work for and become productive members of society because it is going to
04:07:11
Emilyincrease their value in a whole I agree with what Andrew Tate said about like girls can flirt and more
04:07:21
Emilyeasily but I don't think that's the here to loneliness so I think anyone who lacks genuine connection feels lonely and as we talked about men are pursuing
04:07:33
Emilysex which isn't extremely like meaningful so when they're not pursuing the meaningful
04:07:43
Emilytype of intimacy then maybe that could play a role into why men are more lonely well I think the the point that he was kind of trying to make and one of the reasons I wanted to pull it up because I
04:07:55
Brian Atlasmean it's basically we already had the conversation about well is it who's it harder to get laid and You could argue that maybe even if a
04:08:06
Brian Atlaswoman could get like a one-night stand or get sex that maybe that's not even what women are after that's not even what they want but I think what he's trying to say is well at least you can get that level of attention attention
04:08:18
Brian Atlaslike you can get a warm bed you could get a cuddle which I mean maybe it not might not be with the optimum suit or maybe it might not even be what you want if you you know maybe you want like a long-term relationship
04:08:30
Brian Atlasyou want a family and it's having a casual encounter is not a big priority for you but you basically what you have though is men out there who have
04:08:40
Brian Atlasbasically who can't even get that and they're like they're touch starved they they can't even get like I don't know if you've heard this term like touch being touch starved but like they've haven't
04:08:52
Brian Atlashugged anybody in like forever in a woman if you want to you want to cuddle you don't even have to a guy you could get a cuddle pretty easily you know it's but anyways let's move on from that just because I do want to try to wrap up here pretty soon we got one more
04:09:06
Brian Atlasvideo I have one more question then we're gonna wrap it up wrap it up Kiko wrap it up yeah oh no oh uh we have to go do we do the body count
04:09:21
Brian Atlasyou're controversial no it's not controversial I just feel like we went over we don't I don't know if we did and I'm really looking towards Jillian here for her thoughts and then
04:09:35
Brian AtlasMira yeah that was about I was about to say that I'm just saying I knew it I memorized it but you know just we need to hear more from Mira you've been a little quiet
04:09:46
Brian Atlaswe need some more Deets hello okay cool all right let's do it let's do tape video um did we do the body count one or the forehead body count one the four headphone there's there's a forehead body count
04:10:01
Brian Atlaslet's do wait which one then the forehead counts or the Box Camp he said body count uh we've done that one so much let's do the forehead count why not all right wait no no no is it gonna be too
04:10:14
Brian Atlastriggering should we Nick let's ask chat let's ask Chad they've seen the videos a whole bunch of times I think can you pull up the chat yeah yo chat one in the chat do you want the Tate
04:10:26
Brian AtlasBody Count video or the Tate forehead count video that's with Cheyenne uh which ones you guys want chat can we read the chat afterwards
04:10:34
Brian Atlaswhat's that can we read the chat afterwards oh okay yeah it'll be uh which one forehead both both I don't know if we can have time for both here let's start with the forehead count and
04:10:47
Emilythen uh I've seen forehead count in both okay the most okay okay yeah in the second one that's what everyone's voting on all right go ahead
04:10:58
Audio ClipsI think 99 of the world's problems would be solved can you make it louder females walk through life with a body count on their forehead because it would prevent because it would prevent
04:11:09
Audio Clipsall of the disintegration of morals it would prevent so many things about the world and women would be like to be with me as a man I don't want to
04:11:21
Audio Clipsput another number on my forehead you have to be a good man they wouldn't stop these idiots and stop being idiots and all the idiots who would disappear all the degeneracy would disappear families would return virgins meeting their first man staying with him
04:11:34
Audio Clipsher whole life and being proud of it we couldn't we go back to such a beautiful age all we have to do is start putting numbers on girls foreheads we could fix everything okay so many are lonely can't get or
04:11:47
Kikotouch starved woman you start putting your body head on their forehead because they too many men and they were around too much and we have no more virgins who are pure and don't want to do those things which one do you want do you want a world full of virgins or you want a
04:12:00
Priyaworld for a hoes that are you guys I no I think I think I think it will I mean he did say women originally and then he said he made an argument for men basically becoming accountable because they don't want another number
04:12:11
Priyaadded to their forehead I think I mean obviously it's it would never happen for obvious reasons but it would create a lot of accountability for everyone and
04:12:22
Kikowe see a lot of like people don't hold themselves accountable for things a lot nowadays what though because you're not you're not saying yeah it's only being accounted before is the fact that she has to take account for the fact that she's slept with
04:12:34
Kikoanother man I don't see how that's a society Starlight everything in the world is going to change I know it's a joke but like still to even like try to like sit and try to rationalize that statement is like I don't even think
04:12:46
Brian Atlasthat should have the energy towards it because it makes here let's give some other people an option to respond we're gonna go around the table
04:13:00
MandyI don't really have too much to say on that one come on you're a little upset what do you say no come on I mean it was uh look it's it's obviously an unrealistic expectation that women are suddenly
04:13:13
Mandygonna have their body counts on their foreheads I also think that yeah while some woman may want to watch it I think it won't change anything for some other woman who will continue doing what they were doing
04:13:25
Mandypreviously so I don't even really think it's worth thinking about all that deeply because I think sure it might stop some people but it won't affect others so I think
04:13:37
Emilysome people are open about it and some people aren't and the reason they're not I think specifically with people who have a higher body count I don't know if
04:13:48
Emilythey are ashamed of themselves or worry more about other people shaming them so I don't
04:13:58
EmilyI think it's an uncomfortable topic for a lot of people um so I don't know if that would be the best approach yeah okay if somebody's gonna put
04:14:11
Jillthemselves in the position where they do have a high body count I don't think that it would be an issue if everybody had to know because um men deserve the option they should deserve the chance to know what a
04:14:22
Jillwoman's body count is if women have the same opportunity like a man should be able to want somebody who slept with zero people just as easily as a woman should be like I don't think there's an issue with that yeah yeah I actually kind of agree with
04:14:36
Mirathat kind of going back to like your comment too like um if like a woman wants people to know like how many people that she slept with she'll go out and tell people so it's just like and if a guy wants to know how
04:14:48
Summermuch a woman I slept with it just gives women accountability as well as men so I think he would definitely hold accountability in the way that like I think people do know that sometimes it's morally unacceptable like not
04:15:01
Summerunacceptable but I think people are ashamed of it and I think like if people were to know they wouldn't want them to know so I think definitely people would it would definitely make a difference I'm not saying like I just think like oh yeah if you have a high one I'm not
04:15:14
Summershaming you in any way but I think definitely there's some people out there that are ashamed of their High one but I'm not saying that's everyone but I'm saying I think morally or like just in general like it might it would definitely I think make an effect on how many hookups there would be in today
04:15:27
Hannahsure I just think that's like a personal conversation that like should happen between you and the person like you're looking to have a relationship
04:15:38
Hannahwith I don't think it needs to be like everyone needs to know I don't think that's necessary I just think like you and the other person can have an honest conversation about it and like that's all there has to be like
04:15:51
KatieI don't think I need to be like some public thing that like everyone knows about like okay I think what I will say is in terms of hookup culture like if you're sleeping with someone why does body count necessarily matter if it's just gonna
04:16:03
Katiehappen like for a night in terms of like a relationship though like I feel like there should like if you're telling the person that you're gonna come into a relationship with you should like build a sense of trust like if you're lying to
04:16:15
Katiethem about your body count like that's a whole other issue that I feel like is just not gonna lead to a good relationship with good well I mean what I would just answer to your first part there is even in for uh
04:16:28
Brian Atlasone night stand I think a lot of guys even in that circumstance even in that context would probably still prefer to get with a girl who has a low body count even if it's just for casual sex
04:16:41
Brian AtlasI think they don't care men will care far less if it's just a hookup like it's less of a priority than for like a relationship or a marriage but uh I mean if given the option okay
04:16:53
Brian Atlasfor a one-night stand assuming both of the women are down you have a woman who slept with 100 men versus a girl who's a virgin the guy is probably going to pick the Virgin I disagree with that wholeheartedly if it's just a hookup I'm saying the man's gonna choose no I'm
04:17:06
Kikosaying even for a one-night stand even he's gonna pick the Virgin maybe you know more because you're a man but I would say they're going to choose the one with 100 versus a virgin for a hookup because Nick what do you think
04:17:23
Kikoyeah I guess maybe it's the guys I'm around um they would prefer someone with more experience especially with something like just a hookup then they're not trying to get a hookup and then teach her how to hook up they're trying to get
04:17:36
Miratheir needs met and that's it but for a relationship that's completely different I wouldn't say the same for a relationship obviously I feel like a lot of guys use it as like a ego booster though like oh my God I just
04:17:47
Miratook this girl's virginity or oh my God I just got up with a girl that only has like one body and then they'll go and like be proud of that and tell their friends about that and that's why guys usually like going for virgins and stuff like that well I think it's just psychologically more stimulated okay
04:18:00
Kikovirgin yes but okay maybe three bodies versus a hundred I don't know it's yeah the lower the better the Virgin part is definitely I that's the thing I've heard of before but um yeah it's also more of a high school thing I've heard of I
04:18:13
Priyadon't really hear of adult men being like I don't know either I think that men like view it more as like I mean I'm not going to speak for all men but I do know a lot of men that get genuinely
04:18:26
Priyadisgusted when women have incredibly high body counts yeah but I mean like even she said she's a virgin she says that some guys
04:18:43
Priyaso I think given the option between like okay for the instance of a one-night stand if a girl have a body count of three compared to something upwards of a hundred they'd pretty much always pick
04:18:53
Emilythe three girl I genuinely believe the guy for a hookup should pick the girl with the higher body count because she's more experienced and could give them a
04:19:06
Emilybetter time so I agree but disagree on that I disagree but I don't get the male brain thinking a virgin or a girl with a really low body count is
04:19:15
Emilybetter when like with more experience they have more skill so the the physical pleasure is increased
04:19:27
Kikobecause do you sleep with virgins don't usually want anymore disavow it's like it's like a difficult to see things disavow um let me ask you a question right okay
04:19:39
Brian Atlaswell you've never had sex I don't know um so I guess to the girls who've had sex do you need to be maybe you don't need it but does it does it
04:19:49
Brian AtlasElevate the sexual experience if aside from just the man's technical skills in the bedroom you're also psychologically stimulated by him in some way so either he's really physically physically attractive you really like his
04:20:02
Mandypersonality yes is there a psychological component to the enjoyment when it comes to sex right sure but it's not because he's a
04:20:12
Kikovirgin men and women okay that's just what I'm saying like for me personally and I've like all this honestly sorry it doesn't matter regardless because I have never heard of
04:20:25
TTS Readera man who was just going for one night stand even ask what their body count is donated 100 why do you guys care if they ask about your body count
04:20:35
Brian AtlasKiko I don't I don't care if they ask I never said they did okay but I I guess for like kind of responding to you like oh well wouldn't you want to get a girl get with a girl who's had 100 bodies
04:20:48
Brian Atlasbecause surely she must be more sexually experienced Ergo the sexual experience is going to be more pleasurable because she's got a certain technique the Gluck Gluck 9000 or whatever the it's
04:20:58
Brian Atlascalled like I don't think men are first off uh that's a particularly huge preoccupation uh like a woman's technical skill in the bedroom is
04:21:09
Brian Atlasdwarfed by I would say her the psychological stimulation that she might provide either through being really physically attractive or by
04:21:20
Emilyhaving a low body count or by being a virgin for example I'm not saying they prefer the one with body count but for
04:21:30
Brian Atlasfickle pleasure like the skill level they should well if that's your only but but like I think but you're talking mentally right well yeah I think both men and
04:21:40
Brian Atlaswomen are psychologically stimulated like you for let me ask would you rather have the best sex of your life with a guy who you thought was physically unattractive and you didn't really like his personality or would you rather have
04:21:53
Brian Atlasaverage sex with a guy who is really attractive really hot good personality and maybe technically he wasn't as good as this other guy but the other things he's bringing
04:22:06
Brian Atlaspsychologically the psychological stimulation actually make the sex better the average I mean you haven't had sex I don't know like like but
04:22:16
EmilyI care about personal connection and also I'm not anti-sex I'm just anti-sex with guys who I don't have a
04:22:27
Emilyestablished relationship with so I'm not like saving myself for marriage or any of that I simply want a
04:22:35
Emilymeaningful connection and guys this bar or currently are not offering what I require so it's not happening but I'm not anti-sex
04:22:46
Brian AtlasI'd have sex if a guy deserves it yeah but it's kind of like the same thing like what if there was a because men will view a woman who has a
04:22:58
Brian Atlaslow body count isn't promiscuous or who's a virgin they might view that as something that would make the sex better they might be more attracted to a woman who is like that so
04:23:10
Brian Atlasis it almost like a hard to get things it there's there's a couple different reasons one I mean obvi I mean I'm Nick I don't know if you can weigh in on this but connection with someone with 100
04:23:29
Brian Atlaswell yeah but even even in the hookup but I think the the other thing that you could say is is that Nick would you and I I Feel Like Girls probably to some degree feel this way
04:23:39
Brian Atlastoo like for me if I knew if I was about to hook up with a girl whether it was just a one-night stand or I wanted to pursue a relationship with her if I found out that she hooked up with a different guy yesterday
04:23:51
Brian Atlasthat would be very off-putting to me yeah very off-putting just because it's kind of I think it would be kind of gross like did he come inside you and
04:24:01
Brian Atlasthen it's then I'm Yeah by proxy I'm kind of getting playing for the other side you know what I mean okay and then we know your theory on that on my weird theory about yeah um and then uh the STD
04:24:14
Kikoconcern and it's like if a girl tells me it's been three years since I last was with a guy I'm like that's dope cool but there's no correlation between body count and the last time someone hooked up with somebody so those are two
04:24:26
Brian Atlasdifferent yeah okay those are two different things but I think that's it's related to promiscuity to some degree if a girl hasn't had sex in three years yeah 50 guys three years ago
04:24:38
Kikolast week which one would you prefer the girl who slept with 50 guys three years ago hypothetical comparison wait can you answer that one what what's the what's the two what's the two so would you
04:24:48
Kikorather sleep with a girl who slept with over 50 guys three years ago or would you sleep with the girl would you rather sleep with a girl who has a body count of like five say but she slept with someone last week
04:25:06
Brian AtlasI'm actually curious what people have to say about that one I totally get like wanting to have a woman with a low body like that's not they're both undesirable they're both undesirable scenarios let's say that which one do I prefer either
04:25:21
Brian Atlaswait five yeah so five so the one so last week okay she only has five bodies yeah versus the one who has 50 bodies I hadn't slept with anyone in three years
04:25:31
Brian Atlascorrect yeah I I think I'm leaning towards she slept with it but it's not it's still not a desirable scenario yeah okay it's like the guy a day ago that's just not right
04:25:43
Kikowell it's not what do you mean because like if you're trying to you guys say that you use this knowledge to try to like show the future of how like your relationship is how type of woman she is but say the woman who slept with 50 people three over three plus years ago
04:25:57
Kikoright she went through the self-realization she realized oh no I messed up like I shouldn't have been doing that I know myself worse now I know I only want to give myself to like you know a worthy Man versus the woman who just slept with someone a week ago
04:26:09
Kikoand has five bodies what if she gained all those five bodies all last week I never said oh no okay so it's like you know that's all my
04:26:18
Kikopoint is you can't use these things as end-all be-all you need to talk to who you're with and look we can come up with these hypothetical scenarios you're trying to like be like yeah she has over
04:26:29
Brian Atlasthree bodies she's at home it's like no like there's many different things that go into it so okay and various guys have different thresholds for what they deem to be a high body count we can make up these hypothetical scenarios ultimately
04:26:42
Brian Atlasthough what I would say generally speaking is most men would prefer women with lower body counts the lower the better the closer to zero the better I feel like a woman with a higher
04:26:54
Jillbody count might make a man feel degraded if that makes any sense at all how so if like a woman had slept with 50 people and then goes and sleeps with another man makes it 51. like how is the
04:27:06
Brian Atlaslike I don't know what's also like kind of to your point I think that you you're just okay I'm number 51. yeah Why didn't it work for the previous 50
04:27:15
Brian Atlasguys uh was there like what's what's going on there I and then also I mean I do think when it comes to significant others you do want and maybe this is going to sound corny I think for both
04:27:27
Brian Atlasmen and women you do want to be special to your significant other absolutely and if you've had 50 100 prior sexual partners one I think you've kind of detached intimacy from sex sex is just
04:27:39
Brian Atlassport to you it's just like a handshake it doesn't there you've all you've to some degree detached the intimacy component to sex and again maybe this sounds corny but like I for me there's no I don't really have an
04:27:51
Brian Atlasinterest in sleeping with a girl one time like if I have sex with a girl I want there to be continuity I want to continue seeing her it to me the people who support okay let me just try to hook up with a bunch of girls frankly I don't see the points I don't think it's
04:28:03
Brian Atlasa intelligent or smart way to move as a man so uh especially if you're on your purpose and you're trying to you know do something with your life hooking up with a bunch of random girls and never talking to them again I think that's an L I think excuse me sorry I
04:28:17
Brian Atlasgot Tongue Tied there I think you should try to develop relationships with women and not just use them for sex and you know discard them once you've gotten what you've gone I think if you choose to sleep with a woman you should try to
04:28:28
Priyapursue something so I do think it says a lot about your your morals and your values to on an extent like to to an extreme extent there of course are those outliers like
04:28:39
Priyayou said the like the theoretical woman that had a very promiscuous past and has you know either like come to some sort of religion and how to change a heart or some other circumstance in their life of
04:28:51
Priyacourse there are those people but they're not as sick there's not like a huge amount of them compared to like with the that past that have come to
04:29:02
Priyalike a huge change of heart like a drastic change of heart a lot of them continue with those types of habits fair but I I see a lot of women especially on social media now they're coming forward a lot saying like especially this whole
04:29:14
Kikoempowerment thing we're seeing within feminism a lot of girls who are teens early 20s College they felt empowered by Sleeping with multiple men or doing things like that and then they get to their late 20s or early 30s and they
04:29:26
Kikorealize oh I was just doing those things to feel a void and actually got nothing off of it yeah and they do change and I feel like anything it's more woman who will come to that realization and men would that or promiscuous in that way yeah but it all overall breaks down to I said in the beginning that's why you
04:29:39
Kikojust need to shoot in your league if you are a girl with a hundred bodies you best be dating a man who has over a hundred bodies like it's it's it's that is the truth I will admit that in a relationship for it to work I do believe
04:29:50
Kikothe woman has to have a smaller body count than the man yeah but I don't think it has to be under 10. that's what I'm saying again it's relative to the man's body count no hers has to be less
04:30:01
Priyabut it doesn't have to be three percent of his body count you know what I mean yeah I do agree with that but I think that they're like the way that we phrase it a lot of the times in terms of saying like oh body count
04:30:13
Priyadoesn't matter it shouldn't matter it matter it absolutely does matter but by saying and like bringing up the arguments for um like it not mattering or like trying
04:30:23
Priyato justify it basically give like gives people incentive to participate in it when it doesn't it does not add any sort of value to your life to like have it to have a high body count or participate in
04:30:35
Priyahookup culture it adds no value to your life long term um and eventually just just hurts you in your in your personal relationships it's only a very small percent of people who find especially women who just find
04:30:47
Kikopleasure and just having casual sex yeah I think there's more women who are trying to convince themselves that they feel that way so I do agree that a lot of women are hurting themselves by participating in this 100 but I don't
04:30:58
Kikothink that it's fair to say that all men want virgins or all men want women with only three plus bodies because that's just simply not true a lot of men don't care as much as you make it seem if it was true then we wouldn't see all these
04:31:10
Kikoporn stars wifed up we wouldn't see all these strippers getting and I'm not even saying by like low men we see billionaires taking strippers out of the strip club and putting a ring on their finger so it's not all men that care
04:31:21
Priyaabout body count sorry Drake's baby mama wouldn't be a prostitute yeah I'm like saying I'm not saying all men but I think the majority of men even if they don't want to recognize it or don't upfront know about their conscious or
04:31:32
Priyauncut it's a it's an unconscious bias that they have against it um I actually I told my boyfriend I was going to bring this up because at some point because it was a really great argument that I
04:31:43
Priyaum or conversation I had with him he had previously dated somebody or a girl with a body count of roughly 40 and he essentially said that he didn't care about it and then I proceeded to have a
04:31:53
Priyaconversation with him about it and he kind of backtracked and said oh well because she told me her body count was that high I proceeded to not take the relationship seriously so he did care
04:32:04
Kikoexactly so he did care he didn't like realize that he actually cared but is his body count under 40. yes exactly exactly yeah but you know a man who has a body count would say 60 or 80 or whatever probably doesn't care about her
04:32:17
Kiko40. so I've met guys too it's like my friend he said the same thing he was dating a girl let a body count like around 30 and his was like in the teens and it was on his mind all the time in the back of his mind all the time she
04:32:28
Kikohad hooked up with some of his friends or like I totally get that so I think even if uh even if it is a guy that has a body count of say 80
04:32:39
Priyaum seeing a girl with a body count of something like 40 I think it still would play a part in how they've how he viewed that relationship possibly also I just think they can understand it more like maybe conceptualize it a little better
04:32:51
Kikobecause they've laid down with as many double as many people before versus somebody who hasn't slept with 40 people was like how could you even you know lay down with four people they can't even conceptualize it yeah I also just would say though like I think you mentioned
04:33:03
Brian Atlassomething about you think it's better for men to have uh maybe not an excessively higher body count but you think it's better for men to have a bit more experience is that I'm saying I'm
04:33:14
Kikosaying a relationship will not work out if a woman has a higher body count than the man in the relationship I agree with that and is that just coming from the guy being less sexual experienced
04:33:25
Kikobasically exactly he becomes insecure the man cannot fathom the fact that the girl he's with has been touched has been touched by more men not insecure no it must say it's wrong insecurity I'm not saying it's not all security
04:33:38
Kikobad it's an insecurity from the fact of like yeah like that's not he's not like that he's not someone who sexually promiscuous like that so being with someone who's more sexually promiscuous as him is something that a lot of men
04:33:50
Brian Atlascannot deal with they're always there's always going to be feathers ruffled well I would also I also think when it comes to like a okay hold on I'll come back to it uh why body count matters condoms do not
04:34:02
Brian Atlasprotect against genital herpes the up 60 bodies equals 12 Partners who are infected 100 bodies equals your likely infected this is why they can't test for it in uh adult content years can go by without an outbreak but you still spread
04:34:13
Brian Atlasit yeah it's very true like condoms do not necessarily like if you can get I guess an outbreak on your region that's not protected by a condoms
04:34:22
Brian Atlasso uh and you don't want that so uh when it comes to like a gap in experience with sex I would definitely say that
04:34:33
Brian Atlasa woman who's more sexually experienced than a man probably I think most women would not want to teach a guy like show a guy how to them
04:34:44
Brian Atlaslike a girl doesn't want to teach a dude like women just want a guy to get it now I'm not saying that you shouldn't like have open communication and if there's certain things you like like I don't think we should treat men as mind readers they're just
04:34:57
Brian Atlasgoing to instantly get everything but I don't like if a woman is with a really inexperienced guy sexually I think she's just gonna be like it's going to be you know assuming she has sexual experience it's going to be a
04:35:10
Brian Atlasturn off for her when a woman doesn't want to show a guy teach a guy how the whereas like a guy who's with us with an inexperienced woman like if you if you're a guy you know how
04:35:21
Brian Atlasto lead like assuming we're kind of going along like if the guy's typically a bit more dominant to the bedroom the one's a bit more submissive the guy is going to be able to lead the woman and it's not going to be like oh you're inexperienced this is a turn off it
04:35:33
Brian Atlasactually could may very well be neutral or just a turn on if anything so I think there's that component also just I think you coming back to what you said or I forgot who was saying who was saying it something about was it you who's talking
04:35:47
Brian Atlasabout like the uh why would a guy want to get with a woman who might not be good in bed or who's inexperienced even in the one night stand was that I think that was me oh that was also side note I was not laughing at anyone I
04:36:00
Brian Atlaswas reading the chat and they were very funny oh and actually we do have one more video that we're going to react to okay relax relax okay don't worry we're almost done here
04:36:09
Brian Atlasand actually related related to that's though so um what I would say and it's another tape video don't worry it's it's brief so what I would say is what matters more
04:36:21
Brian Atlasthan a girl who sucks a dick really well because we often like we've often had girls on the show like oh well a woman who's not sexual experienced who has a low body count she's not going to be able to give you the Gluck 9000 like
04:36:33
Brian Atlasshe's not gonna know how to like maneuver her her I don't know her pelvis in a certain way to please you it's like no that's first one if you're a guy you know how to lead you like if you have any sexual experience in the
04:36:45
Brian Atlasbedroom you can lead a girl and you can make her good in bed pretty pretty simply um also I think it's a girl who like like you know what matters more when it when it comes to that it's not how good her
04:36:57
Brian Atlashead game is it's a girl who loves you to death who's your ride or die who's going to have your back who takes care of you just like you take care of her who's going to be there through the good time the bad time Etc et cetera um and I'd just rather have a girl who truly
04:37:10
Brian Atlasloves me and I truly love her and it doesn't like okay she doesn't suck dick the best who cares um that's not that's not a huge Priority One you can learn uh two again if you're
04:37:22
Brian Atlasa guy and you can lead in the bedroom you can have amazing sex with a girl who's sexually inexperienced so um yeah I don't know sex is not like this complicated actually the Tate
04:37:34
TTS Readerarticle is way better than me um oh it's a different video I did 99 for the panel one by one would you date a person who have genital herpes what it
04:37:44
TTS Readerdoes one will go through seven X more likely to contract HIV to disclose to all future partners and facing likely
04:37:53
Brian Atlasrejection three taking antivirals for life for having to use herpes dating sites oh god well number two definitely
04:38:02
Brian AtlasI mean I feel like dating is hard enough for men and women as it is
04:38:10
Brian Atlasthe worst life ever yeah thank you Liam La we will read your other chats here too we'll get to them in this two sex but so number two in Jay Butler's previous thing saying disclose to all future partners and facing likely
04:38:23
Brian Atlasobjection look for men and women dating relationships it's hard enough as it is do not if if you're promiscuous like there's a higher likelihood of you getting an STD like don't further
04:38:33
Brian Atlashandicap don't further handicap yourself and make it more difficult to uh find you know that per that uh long-term relationship or a boyfriend or even anything because I mean I don't know
04:38:44
Brian Atlasabout you guys but if a girl has herpes that's her I don't care how beautiful she is I don't care if she's way out of my league I don't care how cool she is like if you have an incurable STD that's just
04:38:57
Brian Atlasyou could be a great person but I don't that's I'm not going to pursue that so going around the panel would you date a person who has the herp ES to consider it when dating
04:39:10
Emilyokay this is probably gonna sound dumb but I think I would be more open to it if we were getting married because my
04:39:19
Emilysexual like history or like my my sexual stance of having that it wouldn't
04:39:28
Emilybe an issue with future partners because that is my partner forever so but go ahead go ahead so if we were committed
04:39:39
Emilyforever I'd be okay with it but if it was a temporary person I would not risk risk it for my future people that makes I want to let everybody answer but I
04:39:51
Brian Atlaswill come back to that what about you no no no no no and same with like again same with her like this could be your Forever person let's say it's your could be your Forever person
04:40:06
Brian Atlasit's a mic yes no no I don't think so no yeah it's no from me I mean here's the thing right you're you're young you're an attractive girl you're I mean you're
04:40:19
Brian Atlaswinning not waiting till marriage or no I'm just waiting you're waiting for the right person but you're virgin yeah I mean you I would argue that you have like a very great degree of romantic and
04:40:29
Brian Atlassexual optionality you don't need to no offense to anybody who's got an STD but you don't need to settle for somebody who I mean I assume you don't have anything either
04:40:41
Brian Atlassituation correct like there's a lot of men out there that don't have herpes and look at look you're not going to die from it but like why it is something that you can pass on to your child too so I mean that might be
04:40:54
Emilyanother thought process I mean you I would say you have a lot of options you there's plenty of fish in the sea you know yeah if okay if it was
04:41:04
Emilylike the love of my life I would be more lenient yeah like it's not in oh nobody nobody ever in the whole entire world is all I'm saying but to me
04:41:15
Brian AtlasI just think that for most people that would preclude it's just you really want like a couple times a year I don't know how often okay think about it before you answer it like
04:41:27
Kikohow would it even play out right because you aren't waiting to marriage you're a virgin but you're not waiting until marriage this person's the love of your life right so because they have genital herpes are you now going to wait until marriage to sleep with them so you can
04:41:38
Kikosolidify the fact that it's your forever because if you sleep with them before that happens you can just up and leave and you're also forgetting the fact that divorce is a possible thing you could sleep with you you could do that and then he could just end up divorcing you
04:41:49
Emilyso it's like is it something you want to put yourself in that predicament okay that was a very good point I would say I wouldn't unless it was
04:42:01
Emilya permanent situation but realistically nothing is permanent because of breakups
04:42:09
Emilydivorce so realistically the answer is no but if we're if somehow it was the love of my life and we were guaranteed
04:42:19
Kikoto be together forever I would consider and like can be convinced to look past it in this scenario though it sounds like the only way this would happen is if he like lied to you or
04:42:31
Kikosomething because it's like you like if he never told me then I got it then I'm like we're stuck like what yeah because it's like what are you gonna you're saying it forever but it's like so that means you're going to have to
04:42:42
Emilythere's a lot of lyrics yeah like I don't there's not just a ones forever until you're married yes that's why I'm saying it's unrealistic yeah
04:42:57
Brian Atlasdeath and taxes okay so uh look at adam22 Nick if you're able to go into the the video file we'll play this last one then we're gonna wrap it's
04:43:07
Brian Atlasrelated to the whole conversation about you know is sex the qual like this is this if the sex is bad you know whatever so yeah it's a tape video
04:43:19
Brian Atlasyes yes yes yes um did I pull up oh Liam Ellie pause that really quick look at adam22 thank you Liam uh this is Brian you would N I don't know what you mean by that
04:43:31
Brian Atlasum thank you buddy thank you um let me see were there any super chats no we have one more chat here from uh Liam and I don't know if it's gonna come up I'll we'll do it after the video if
04:43:44
Brian Atlasyou're able to up the video really quick then we're gonna wrap guys um um put us yeah put us in the corner and then hide the other one thank you
04:43:56
Brian Atlasall right go for it oh wait wait wait wait wait hold on hold on uh sorry I just wanna okay someone just sent in I think those are the stats if you guys
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Audio Clipswant to read it okay go ahead sex sex this position that position don't you feel like you get to a point in your life with something more than that don't you feel like and maybe I'm gonna sound like a romantic don't you feel like you get to a position in your life
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Audio Clipswhere you'd rather have a girl who you truly love and she truly loves you and it doesn't matter what she does because you know she really loves you and she's trying her best wear those hats
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Audio Clipsjust like if you sleep with enough men there's no move Sex is not a complicated operation right there's no move that's going to be like wow I've never seen this before though I've never seen this before on my mind
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Audio Clipsno no if you think the way you keep a man happy is to move your in a particular way on top of his dick as opposed to behaving in a way which is respectful to him out in the real world and to for him to know he has you and your loyalty regardless of what's gonna
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Audio Clipscome up all the problem is going to come into in his life then you're wrong so the whole point of sex is a connection between genuine connect with more than this sex her question was what can a woman do to truly blow your
04:45:11
Audio Clipsmind in the bedroom you'll blow my mind outside of the bedroom in a relationship that's the truth wouldn't you rather have a girlfriend who truly loves you is absolutely loyal to you like no matter what happens she's going to be there for
04:45:24
Audio Clipsyou you catch a case six months she swings outside waiting for you she she okay she can't take dick right whatever but she tries her very very best to pour me the poor thing yeah and she wants the size she wants to satisfy you and you
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Audio Clipsknow you know she cares about you yeah wouldn't you be like well I don't care that she can't take dick because that's actually a quality woman which is rare in the world today but I am genuinely uninterested in sleeping with a woman who I don't have a connection with if a
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Audio Clipsgirl said to me I don't love you at all I don't feel anything for you at all I don't want to sleep with you but I will I would say no the sex act in and of itself is is okay we've all have you had sex we've all had sex right do you read
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Audio Clipsto somebody who doesn't give a about you at all if we live in a world now right where we have a lot of narratives which are being broken down and destroyed in real time and I think it's very very healthy for men and women to look at sex as an act that happens
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Audio Clipsbetween people who at least like each other the idea that I don't like them at all but as long as they can suck dick this way then it's okay I don't give a right if a girl genuinely loves me with all her heart and gives me a
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Audio Clipsterrible blow job I'm still gonna be like well you love me I love you it is what it is it's more life's more important than blow jobs and blowing yourself that's the truth and if it's not love this if it's not long let me tell you something women
04:46:38
Audio Clipsare The Gatekeepers not men if it's not love you shouldn't be him anyway this is the reality of the world told you different you shouldn't be any man you don't love that's the first
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Emilything okay you're right you're right no no
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Brian Atlaswhatever is not there you will feel it okay um shout out fresh and fit thank you for the uh that's a clip from their podcast check it out um that was kind of related to the
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Kikoconversation that you kind of brought up a little bit any reactions agree disagree I mean wholesome taste I agree wholesome Andrew tapes yeah it's like right message wrong sponsor again
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Kikolike yeah besides these we've seen tonight the only videos I've seen of this dude is bragging about the thousands of women he slept with so it's like I don't think he doesn't brag about about that I've seen I okay fine fine I
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Kikowas dreaming do you want to actually address what he said though or no I I get his overall message for sure um he kind of went on a tangent though that the girls didn't even weren't even talking about it's
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Kikotwo different things wait Kiko read this really quick Kiko how is that church what church I guess I don't know okay she sorry Liam she doesn't know what you're talking about I haven't been to church in a
04:47:58
Brian Atlaswhile coffee Vegas thank you man uh I love you too I guess you are the best I love you okay thank you puffy Vegas you're a legend I love show do you have a
04:48:08
Brian Atlasreaction to the video we just watched no nothing do you agree disagree thanks uh to be honest
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Mandyum I think it was a mile it was a mild choice of a video like he didn't say anything all that offensive oh yeah yeah
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Mandyit was I I've definitely seen worse of him so um
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Mandyum yeah women should sleep with men they love like I think that that's a nice romantic thing I and sure I agree with that uh that women should sleep with men
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Mandythey love but I don't think that women who don't do that should be judged for it and that's just my caveat to it but like that's basically my only really thoughts on the video
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EmilyI actually agree with what he said um but I care about emotional and personal connection so that was a good take in my opinion actually I wholeheartedly agree with every point
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Mirahe made okay yeah I agree with what he said again hookup culture is like extremely prevalent especially in this country so it's just like I don't think women should be judged if they partake in
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Mirahookup culture and when they're looking for relationships later on in life I feel like they shouldn't be judged for that time in their life again but I think when they're wanting to have like meaningful
04:49:39
Mirasex with like another partner they should do it with someone that they truly love that should go both ways
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Summeryeah I definitely think like you were saying that um I don't think I mean personally I would not just go get with someone random that I have no interest in no connection to anything like that I
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Summerthink definitely oh who said yet earlier was that you yeah okay
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Summerum so I think definitely if I am with someone or if I am like considering going there with them I definitely think I need to be like romantically like in love or at least like Pike it's on the
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Hannahway to love if that makes sense sure I feel like Peak when people can do whatever they want to do like I don't really care
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Katielike it's your life whatever okay I think maybe not like I feel like love is just a really hard place for some people like that like that's that's a hard word for them to say so maybe not
04:50:41
Grace (Juice)that specifically but something on the way to it yeah for sure okay yeah I think you should have a personal connection or yeah yeah I completely agree with everything
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Mirayou said in the video good times so you're co-signing on almost everyone here is co-signing on tape Andrew Tate just that one video just that singular one yeah okay
04:51:09
Emilyit's the right message wrong sponsor exactly so okay all right I'd never shame girls who do participate in hookup culture I just personally don't find it
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Emilyfulfilling and I think if they truly don't find it fulfilling they shouldn't engage just because that's the only thing guys are offering sure
04:51:31
Brian Atlasany final thoughts before we wrap up here speak now or forever hold your peace anybody going once going twice any updates on the text messages from earlier any uh gentlemen Nick pull up twitch
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Brian Atlasreally quick then we're gonna wrap yo twitch.tv whatever drops follow drop us a prime sub Bill thanks for the prime appreciate it um trying to think did you have something were you texting a guy or no I texted him University oh
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Brian Atlashe didn't respond okay okay I guess maybe we can have you back and you can tell us what uh update was next time all right guys last call hit the like button please on your way out thank you for tuning in tonight you could have been anywhere in the world but you're here with me I
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