HEATED DEBATE With College Girls & RAGEQUIT KEEKO! | Dating Talk #104

Date: 2023-09-27

Duration: 4h 52m

Guests

Brian Atlas

MMandy (DT104)>

EEmily (DT104)>

SSummer (DT104)>

HHannah (DT104)>

KKatie (DT104)>

GGrace/Juice (DT104)>

PPriya (DT104)>

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00TTS Reader(audience)

SPEAKER_02Mandy(guest)

SPEAKER_03Priya(guest)

SPEAKER_04Summer(guest)

SPEAKER_05Mira(guest)

SPEAKER_06Grace (Juice)(guest)

SPEAKER_07Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_08Audio Clips(audience)

SPEAKER_09Hannah(guest)

SPEAKER_10Jill(guest)

SPEAKER_11Kiko(guest)

SPEAKER_12Emily(guest)

SPEAKER_13Mandy(guest)

SPEAKER_14Katie(guest)

Key Moments

IntroBrian opens the show explaining 16 flakes occurred across 72 hours. Lists flakers by name: Bianca, Cara, Tiffany, Isabella DeLuca, Claudia, Marina, Chloe, Josie, Samantha, Sarah, Cassidy, Briona, Brianna, Roxy, Taylor, Wendy, Christina. Credits Madison and Nick for doing a street walk to find 7 guests in 1 hour.

“welcome to the whatever dating Talk podcast... we had 16 people flake”

IntroGuests introduce themselves in order: Kiko (23, criminology student), Mandy (21, UCSB classics/art history), Emily (19, UCSB senior econ/comms), Jill (18, UCSB dance), Mira (18, UCSB biopsych), Summer (18, UCSB pre-stats/data science), Hannah (20, UCSB brain sciences), Katie (18, UCSB history), Grace/Juice (36, server, Costa Rica), Priya (22, ASU online, equestrian).

“without further Ado we're going to have the guests introduce themselves”

RelationshipKiko: in a relationship, 9 months. Longest past relationship 2 years.

“um I'm in a relationship and my longest relationship was like two years”

RelationshipMandy (SPEAKER_02): super single, 3-4 years. One relationship over 1 year (high school). Has never even talked to anyone since. No social media — made her first Snapchat account while waiting in the studio.

“um I'm super single I had I've been in one relationship it was over a year long”

RelationshipSummer describes open arrangement with True (in flight school in AZ, her first boyfriend, she is his first girlfriend). She set terms: both can see other people while in college. She is visiting him at Thanksgiving.

“I'm going to college and then the guy that I'm talking to is living in Arizona going to flight school”

Key MomentEmily reveals she has never had social media and made her first Snapchat while waiting outside the studio. She describes avoiding all dating because of how guys in the current culture act.

“oh yeah I had no social media right before um actually while I was waiting to come up to this studio I made a Snapchat”

RelationshipGrace/Juice: single 2 years, two relationships total (one 2 years). No current situationship.

“well I'm single right now I've had like two relationships and like several situationships”

Key MomentEmily (SPEAKER_12) confronted by Brian: "the guys that are hot know they're hot and that's the bad part." She describes approaching a guy during move-in weekend who was overconfident. Brian challenges whether she is shooting out of her league.

“the guys that are hot know they're hot and that's the bad part”

Key MomentMandy reveals a guy from SBCC (community college) fully impersonated a UCSB student — wore UCSB merch, met her at a campus event, registered her at UCSB events — for weeks before admitting he didn't attend.

“there are guys from the community college that pretend to go to UCSB”

Key MomentJill reveals she is a virgin waiting until marriage. Confirmed by Brian; she says she also believes in premarital cuddling but not sex.

“I'm single and I've never been in a relationship before... yeah I would say for sure [waiting until marriage]”

ControversyGrace/Juice reveals that a wealthy older friend (nearly 60) funded first-class trips to New York, Hawaii, Las Vegas (~9 trips), paid her rent twice, and gave a $14,000 check — without any sexual or romantic contact whatsoever. Brian does live math totaling the value.

“he gave me one time a check... fourteen thousand dollars”

Key MomentMandy (SPEAKER_02) reveals she was offered $5,000 by a Tinder hookup to sleep with him again. She declined, citing safety concerns (power dynamic shift when a man pays). He immediately blocked her. She later encountered him awkwardly at her workplace.

“he offered to pay me um to sleep with him... he was like five grand”

ControversyEmily makes the core argument: if all women raised their standards, men would be forced to change their behavior. Kiko counterargues: there will always be some women participating in hookup culture, so collective action won't work — instead find men who don't want hookup culture.

“if all girls raise their standards a little bit it will force the guys to have to change the way they act”

Key MomentRole-play segment: Brian pretends to be a woman; Summer plays a man hitting on him at a bar. Summer's approach involves asking about horses (equestrian major), which Brian plays along with.

“hey can I buy you a drink oh sure... what school do you go to... equestrian equestrian that's hello”

Key MomentJill plays a woman at Trader Joe's during role-play. Her responses are painfully awkward — she has never flirted. "Does Trader Joe's even have one?" Brian tries to coach her ("ask me what my major is") but she fails to follow through.

“like literally I've never done this I've never done this no I've never flirted with anybody”

ControversyKiko's rhetorical win moment: "You guys said women need to close their legs because they're sleeping with everyone. But then you say men can't get laid. Which one is it?" — the contradiction silences Brian briefly.

“women are sleeping with everybody don't know how to close their legs or men can't find anybody to sleep with”

ControversyKiko confronts red pill influencer consumption: cites Sneako being shocked when 12yo boys at a baseball game said "kill all women." Argues red pill content is radicalizing young men who lost social development years during COVID.

“these random kids run up to him in a baseball game and they're literally like 12 year old little boys and they're like yeah women all women we hate women like kill women kill all women”

QuoteEmily: "I think it's delusional to pretend like missandry is so prevalent and also even if it was super prevalent that it's equivalent to misogyny." Argues female man-haters are almost never physically dangerous whereas misogynistic men are.

“I also think it's delusional to pretend like missandry is so prevalent”

ControversyBrian argues patriarchy theory is a conspiracy theory that breeds contempt for men. Kiko and Emily argue mainstream feminism is first-wave equality, not radical. Brian challenges: "Has any feminist organization ever lobbied to equalize the draft?" Brian cites feminist terrorism (Andy Warhol shooting).

“if you start teaching women that they are oppressed and the person to blame is this other gender men”

Key MomentGrace/Juice says Andrew Tate content is better understood when watched in full. Mandy (SPEAKER_02) aggressively disagrees — says his videos asking about body counts are degrading. Brian offers to play Tate video. Discussion of whether viewing full context changes perception.

“if you really like go in and look at the videos of them speaking it will change your perception completely of them”

Key MomentBrian plays Fresh & Fit clip of Tate talking about emotional connection mattering more than sexual technique. Most guests (including Emily) endorse the clip's message. Kiko: "right message, wrong sponsor." Emily agrees Tate's diagnoses are often right but lifestyle prescriptions are wrong.

“sex sex this position that position don't you feel like you get to a point in your life with something more than that”

QuoteEmily on agreeing with Tate's emotional connection clip: "right message, wrong sponsor" — encapsulates her view of Andrew Tate throughout the episode.

“it's like right message wrong sponsor again like yeah”

Topics Discussed

Introductions & Backstory of Flakes

Brian explains that 16 people flaked in 72 hours before the show; 7 guests were recruited from the Santa Barbara streets 1 hour before. Guests introduce themselves: Kiko (co-host, 23, criminology), Mandy (21, classics/art history), Emily (19, econ/comms senior), Jill (18, dance), Mira (18, biopsych), Summer (18, pre-stats), Hannah (20, brain sciences), Katie (18, history), Grace/Juice (36, server, Costa Rica), Priya (22, ASU, equestrian).

Relationship Status Round

Each guest shares relationship status. Kiko: in relationship 9 months. Mandy: single 3-4 years, bisexual. Emily: super single, one year relationship 3+ years ago. Jill: single, never had relationship, summer fling only. Summer: open arrangement with True (AZ). Summer talks about D1 football player in Colorado she ghosted. Hannah: long-distance boyfriend at Cal Poly. Katie: single her whole life (18). Grace: single 2 years. Priya: new relationship (~1 month).

UCSB & College Hookup Culture

Discussion of UCSB's reputation as a party/hookup school. Guests debate whether women should close their legs / raise their standards. Emily argues that when some women accept low-effort hookup culture it forces others into a market with lower standards. Kiko pushes back: women with high standards should just seek men who don't want hookup culture rather than trying to change the pool. Girls discuss being approached at frats, pushy guys, and encounter with a man who faked being a UCSB student.

Sugar Daddies & Transactional Relationships

Brian asks about sugar daddy offers, fly-outs, and men offering money. Mandy: got "will fund your life" DMs but declined immediately. Summer: was offered $5,000 by a Tinder hookup to sleep with him again; declined. Grace: reveals a wealthy older friend (~60yo) funded first-class travel (New York, Hawaii, Las Vegas, 8-9 trips total), paid rent twice, gave a $14,000 check — all without any sexual contact.

Dating Apps & Body Count Discussion

Brian analyzes Bumble dynamic (women send "hey" then men carry conversation). Discussion of whether women controlling access to sex means they control relationships. Debate: are women with high body counts less desirable even for one-night stands? Brian argues men prefer lower body count even for casual sex. Mandy disagrees. Kiko: body count is relative to the man's. Long exchange about whether high-body-count women still provide relationship value.

Men's Access to Sex vs Women's

Can a mid-level man just go out and get laid? Kiko argues yes if he targets women comparable to him. Brian is skeptical. Role-play exercise: Brian pretends to be a woman; Summer plays the man hitting on her (horse topic). Jill plays a very awkward/unresponsive woman. Debate over whether men and women have comparable access to casual sex; Kiko argues men do accumulate bodies by targeting easy women rather than through skill.

Red Pill Content & Its Effects on Men

Discussion of Andrew Tate, Fresh & Fit, Sneako and their influence on young men. Kiko argues red pill content creates isolated, objectifying mindsets (cites Sneako at baseball game with 12yo boys saying "kill all women"). Priya agrees Tate's diagnoses are often correct but prescriptions are harmful. Emily defends some red pill content as raising awareness of male loneliness. Brian plays Andrew Tate "lonely men" video clip.

Feminism & Patriarchy Debate

Extended debate: is feminism about equality or women's advocacy? Is patriarchy theory accurate? Brian argues teaching women they are oppressed breeds contempt for men. Kiko and Emily argue mainstream feminism is first-wave (equality) not radical. Discussion of feminist studies requirements at UCSB, media portrayals of men, HR departments, circumcision as male oppression (Brian's example). Emily: missandry is much less dangerous than misogyny statistically. Brian cites Andy Warhol being shot.

Andrew Tate Video Reactions

Brian plays two Andrew Tate video clips: (1) Tate on male loneliness — touches on men who never get DMs or attention; all guests agree male loneliness is real. (2) Tate/Fresh & Fit on body count forehead branding — would 99% of problems be solved if women wore body counts on foreheads? Mixed responses. (3) Andrew Tate on sex being about emotional connection, not technique — almost all guests agree with this clip. Brian wraps show.

Transcript

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Mandyany sugar daddy offers any fly out offers for however at this guy on Tinder we hooked up once and then I was like I'm going into the

Mandyschool right now I'm going to my third year I'm like I don't really have time for this um and I wasn't really interested anymore and then he offered to pay me um to sleep with him and I was just like

Mandythat's prostitution yeah pretty pretty illegal um I was curious how much he would offer I was never gonna accept it but I was curious how much he was

Mandyactually gonna offer I was not I mean because I don't I'm not gonna be doing a federal crime that's not that I'm not doing that I gotta finish Michael he was like five grand

Mandyyou already did it for free you make a good point look I'm all about getting your bag but

MandyI did not want to sleep yeah I felt weirdos because I I also felt like if I let's say I do that I feel like that I'm putting myself at risk in a bad spot

Mandybecause let's if a guy pays you he feels like he can do whatever he wants with you and like all of a sudden the power Dynamic shifts so quickly okay cool I

Mandymean again obviously never had personal experience so what I could be wrong but it could be some negotiation but to me I felt like if I were to accept that type

Mandyof thing I felt like I'm letting him have power over me monetarily and that is something that I'm firstly not interested in and I'm also I would also be worried for my safety like in that

Mandytype of what was the offer what did he tell you oh he just um we were

Mandyhooking up with you no but you you said that you were curious you wanted to know oh but I he blocked me once I said no he immediately blocked me okay and then he which was funny because we talked about

Mandyhow he liked the food of like the place that I worked at and then uh he never came to that location until like one day he came in never showed his face in that store again because he blocked me on

Brian Atlaseverything and then um okay yeah never saw him again all right okay yeah what about you what was the question okay any like famous people in your DMs any sugar daddy any fly-out

Emilyoffer besides my ex-boyfriend no what about you Burger daddy I've had older guys

Emilywant a relationship and they were rich but not just for sex because um Downtown Santa Barbara oh so this was

Emilyan in-person meeting yeah just ran into them started talking it was never just for sex because I think with guys when I'm like when they show interest in me I am

Emilyclear that I'm not into hookup culture at all because I know it is very very common so I let them know in the beginning to not read them on and any of that we've

Brian Atlasdefinitely heard from other women who've been on the show we've heard stories of I mean you don't a lot of the times some of these guys who are sugar daddies or whatever they I don't know what their motivations or intentions are but they will just

Brian Atlasliterally send girls money sometimes not even have to meet them in person or they do meet in person but it's like be my escort to dinner go have dinner with me go have lunch

Brian Atlaswith me I just want to be with a pretty girl I mean my thinking is that they want to probably never eventually maneuver it towards sex but I've definitely heard a ton of

Emilygirls say oh yeah I just went on a date paid me 500 bucks so those are the kind of offers that you're you've had yeah well I don't have any social media so everyone I met was

Emilyin person so I would I never really had the opportunity to get like a Anonymous DM don't have to meet them it's always real people I meet in public

EmilyI met a couple older guys yeah was it one two three four how many yes it was uh maybe four okay maybe four

Brian Atlasyeah um maybe you exchanged contact info numbers yes and then they would offer what 500 bucks come meet me for coffees that

Emilysort of um it was more like no it was more like I'm rich and will fund your life will you be my girlfriend kind of

Brian Atlasor will you go out with me and so when they say I will fund your life do they get into specifics do they say I'll pay your rent I'll pay your car bill I'll pay your utility bill your phone bill I'll pay for everything and what do they

Emilysay come live with me like what they say they just kind of say how well established they are so I know that they have a lot to offer I guess but I never

Emilyget into the specifics because off first message I declined so I never really yeah okay

Miraoh okay what about you no never nothing nothing fly out nothing okay what about you anything I mean you check mark fly out sugar daddy I've had sugar daddy

Miralike DMS on Instagram I'm like unmarked safe DMS but I never actually responded to any of them I have had friends that have responded to them but a couple of them have actually been like caught by

Miralike the police because technically they would go and like they would pay them but it would be like a bot account or something like that so I would just I would never do it oh okay yeah what about you yeah definitely the

Summerbots on Instagram but I would never reply to them but I also I worked at a restaurant at my hometown and a lot of like old men and older guys would leave phone numbers for like me and my co-workers and

Summerum they would just like they like they we knew where they were Rich because like where the restaurant is it's located in a pretty good place so it's like we knew and then they would just basically like we've had one guy like wait for us outside the restaurant and

Summerbe like oh like we're renting this Airbnb on the lake like come it's like a minute away from our work and he like gave us the address and like gave us like his phone number and so I've had like all those experiences like multiple times where I work but never took any of

Hannahthem up or anything about you anything for you I mean I've gotten like the weird like DMs like guys asking for like few picks fee

Hannahor like underwear like not even at on but like a picture of it just like you know like just taking a picture of it and then like the like say they'll pay you but like I don't respond to them

Katieso okay just like just the Bots um that kind of stuff I know my friend um he has a fake Snapchat account that he catfishes people on he has a ton of

Katiethose that he just catfishes and messes with people with and so male friend yeah but he's like pretending to be a chick no no

Katieit's catfishing yeah he's like he he's like he pretends he's like 20 like four I think is the age usually puts so he's pretending to be a dude no he's not pretending to be a dude he is

Katiea dude he's like he's like complete he's giving like you don't have to like gay men or something or something he just pulls no so he has to act like someone else probably no I mean he's like like he just fake pictures yeah he uses fake pictures to be someone he's

Grace (Juice)not and just like messes with people oh okay what about you I've I guess I don't know I'm older so I guess yes but I never hooked up with him I traveled and everything with him but

Grace (Juice)he always like like will go ahead go ahead like he will like he has a lot of money and he I don't know we ended up being friends but we never hooked up not even he he didn't

Brian Atlaseven try to hook up he didn't even try no they didn't even try initially it was clear that he was interested in you beyond just friendship it didn't seem that way no like not at all older guy

Grace (Juice)yeah he was he's older he's like almost 60 years old and we travel like I don't know for three or four months first class and stuff like that but we never hooked up we became really good friends

Brian Atlasbut wait so um you would he pay besides just traveling with him would he didn't well he gave you money helped you with bills

Grace (Juice)rent well um he helped me a couple of times well he like he did it like as a gift you know he will like give it to my to the landlord okay and then he gave me one time a check yeah a good check as a

Grace (Juice)gift how much good it's fine it's good fourteen thousand dollars but that was like two years ago I know

Brian Atlaslet's do I want to do it right now let's go Mathis what are you doing I need to do a full accounting of this so I've got my math here pulled up so 14 000 yes one

Grace (Juice)time payment but were there other one-time payments for lesser amounts or more higher amounts well her rent multiple times Well my rent like two times he gave it to the landlord itself like how much was that six it was like six or seven hundred dollars at that

Brian Atlaspoint fourteen hundred uh and then we travel we travel first class and stuff like that and to Hawaii and to New York how many how many different flights total do you think

Grace (Juice)like vacations did you take we took to new to New York in first place just uh total in total maybe like I don't know like eight or nine nine let's put nine

Brian Atlasokay let's just say ten and so you said Hawaii New York where else Las Vegas Vegas anywhere else um we went to San Francisco no we didn't

Grace (Juice)go out of the country okay yeah he's American too but he will like always like I don't know if he's the correct way to say it order like a room with two beds and he never like ever tried anything I swear

Brian Atlaslike we never even kiss a peck or anything like at all what are these guys doing I know like good for you but it's just like I as a guy I'm like why you know I just wants a friend maybe

Kikohe's lonely does he need another friend he's older I must still be putting it down at 60 son that was like it's the original like I don't I'm probably wrong on these

Kikostrike detailing but like that used to be the original definition like of escorting like that's why there was a there was different words because like prostitution was paying for you know hooking up with and then sugar baby mean

Kikoand like maybe maybe just sugar baby um but like it's supposed to be no sexual contact and they're literally just paying you for your companionship like time and stuff like that because I want to hang out with a pretty girl you want to hang with a pretty girls

Brian Atlassometimes it's like they'll book you to go to their fancy little dinner with all their friends and stuff like that I was just the whole situation to me is I know is Bonkers so

Grace (Juice)um was he like did he speak Spanish with you is he a Spanish guy no no no he's he's American he's super American yeah like he has blue eyes and like he's

Grace (Juice)older maybe he liked her accent no no I hope I hope not now I miss him oh yeah

Brian Atlasum in 2019 so you're like you're 36 so you were like were you crazy three thirty three two thirty three yeah I never quit my job though

Grace (Juice)but I don't know I know but I'm older you know so yeah good for you thank you guys don't hate me guys but but

Brian Atlaswomen have dating and life on easy mode yes yes there's no there's I'm I'm actually when you're little sugar uh

Priyadaddy situation came about uh like there's no women hitting me up like oh Brian let me fly you everywhere here any sugar mamas listening Brian wants you to there's no

Brian Atlassides for you you can sign up if you I'm not saying that sugar mamas don't exist but like it's probably well the ratio is not yeah there's a hundred sugar daddies probably more so I've been

Kikowaiting for you to bring this up can we brought up earlier the hookup culture right you guys love to say and complain about women and the hookup culture and something III what if men just raise

Kikoyour standards and you guys stop sleeping with everyone then maybe your lives wouldn't be so difficult you keep complaining about oh you know this and that the hookup culture you and saying that we control hookup Culture by like

Brian Atlasif you don't sleep with you guys no how about you guys stop sleeping with everybody and that'll be the fix you want here's here's the difference I would kind of point out to that you say you guys but what I would argue is when it comes to hook up culture it's

Brian Atlasactually a fairly small proportion of men that you could say are responsible where so I think what's going on in hookup culture is you have women who are chasing after the top 10 top 20 percent of men they're sleeping with all the

Kikowomen and then the rest of the guys are lonely they're not getting any maybe I would say there's more men who are indulging in casual sex than women are

Brian Atlasno I think it's the reverse I would agree that it's the reverse I think that if perhaps you can make the argument that men attend more inclined to just

Brian Atlaspursue casual sex but that's very different than actually being able to get it the men that are able to regularly get casual sex is is a much smaller cohort of people compared to

Brian Atlaslike almost any woman any woman even if she's overweight she can be in hookup culture I would argue like a overweight man

Kikohe's not he doesn't have access to hook up culture so I'm not saying that it's easier for men they still it's women have more access to sex correct but that

Kikodoesn't negate the fact that they try so hard that they still end up being the most people in hooking up in casual sex because there's more there's men yes

Kikothey might not get it on their first try but they're still trying to so even if it takes them all night long even if they have to go up to 10 different women they're leaving that night with a girl in hand we know I know many men like

Kikothat and they are mid they are not some Chads or the finest men in the room no I know very mid men who or yeah mid men who take home a woman if they want well they might be bringing something else

Brian Atlasthey might have some Charisma or a game obviously you were in The Nightlife you're a bartender so like when you get alcohol in the involved in the picture and that's it's not say it's right but even in Ella Vista that's usually a play in majority of scenarios so I think we

Kikoboth men and women are drinking I mean that's yeah I'm not saying it's wrong I'm not saying like I'm I'm saying like yesterday night's not right that they're using this alcohol but I'm saying that's what's happening the majority of the time is both parties are drinking so well it's like they're it's like the

Brian Atlasliquid confidence for guys like they're gonna be less scared to approach a girl if they're a little intoxicated they're not going to be as nervous anxious Etc right but I still think like there's more if you count them out of men versus

Kikothe amount of women who are engaging in hookup culture because I would be like I saw oh yeah guys will take home guys can take home three four different

Kikogirls a week and nobody would bat an eye right a girl might be having casual sex but usually it's either their repeating Partners or they're not they're it's not the same because you will get judged for that whereas a man wouldn't so girls are

Kikomore inclined to not do that that's why what I mean that yes but that's not what a sneak link really means but it's I'm saying that there if you count count it out there's going to be more men who are doing that than women I mean but okay

Brian Atlasit's not like with dating apps and social media and like meeting people at parties and bars and clubs and stuff um there's a if as a woman if you want to kind of

Kikokeep a low profile and hook up with a ton of men you can absolutely do it it's this idea that oh they're going to be judged like who you can be sneaky not not really in these years I mean if you everyone here probably has roommates you're going to notice if your roommate's gone every

Kikonight and doesn't have a boyfriend like those things don't get non-picked up they might be a little bit you could be a little bit more hush-hush about it but usually things start going around people guys are going to start talking guys love to talk about their sexual encounters so even if she's quiet about

Brian Atlasit he's gonna go tell his homie and that homie's gonna tell that homie so I mean it's gonna most the time it gets around pretty fast so you're saying that when it comes to getting sex that it's actually pretty comparable like even if you're a mid guy if you really want it

Kikolike you can just go get it yes but I'm not saying that men have more access to sex I'm not saying that women do have more access to sex but I'm not saying you have to be a 10 out of 10 amazing

Priyalooking or rich man to get a woman that's not true because I will agree with that to the extent that I think that the like one like top one percent

Priyalike attractiveness men are getting you know sex seven days a week Edwards like a average looking guy is probably getting sex once a week I would

Priyastill I mean at least in my zero or zero but I like I would say that they're probably well there's definitely more men that attempt to partake in hookup culture are they as successful as women

Priyacan be no but I think there's probably more in terms of volume of men partaking on a regular basis than there are women but women obviously have more access in terms of they don't have

Priyato try nearly as hard as men do to partake in hookup culture does that make sense that's exactly but I will like clarify my stance because I I agree no I will disagree I'll clarify my stance on hookup culture I'm not

Priyasaying like it's it's only women to blame I think both men and women need to become equally as accountable I don't agree that men should be um left to sleep around I don't I don't

Priyathink that at all I think both need to stay accountable but I mean at least for me I think that men care more about a woman's passwords like in terms of seeking a relationship men care more

Priyaabout a woman's past and women care about men's future so women are a lot more inclined to be like oh I can fix him whereas men are not men will see like a dirty pass see baggage and be like nah she's not worth it but if let's

Mandysay A man does see that isn't that a red flag to you like it let's say you do partake and hook up culture and some guy places that much emphasis on your body

Mandycount who you've been with in the past to me that means that I'm immediately no longer interested in him the fact that he is putting that emphasis on like

Mandyprevious relationships when that's clearly not what matters I I wouldn't judge a guy for however many people he slept with and I wouldn't want him to judge a woman for that and honestly

Mandythat's like that's like not even a red flag to me that's like that's done deal like I know what John is interested sorry well so you're saying past doesn't matter

Mandywell it past doesn't matter it's a very broad statement but I'm saying past in regards to body count does not matter so like it was like a hundred plus you'd be okay with that well I would want you to

Mandygo get tested first um if you have a hundred plus let's say but it's 100 plus but he's clean um I mean that would be more of a conversation to have about um that's not like it's not something I

Mandywould write it up like right off just immediately you've had 100 bodies oh suddenly I'm not going to date you anymore it would be more like okay so why why were you hooking up with that many people are you still like planning

Mandyon hooking up with that many people that's I feel like it's more of a conversation about where the future is headed because who you were doesn't mean that's necessarily who you are so I don't think people should just be like judging

Mandyimmediately just because you have a higher body count or maybe you have a lower body count it doesn't matter to me like at all and if it is a super high com uh body count that maybe even like

Brian Atlasshocks me that's a conversation to be had like you work through those things do you object for example let's try to kind of reverse the scenario would you object to a man not wanting to be involved with or date

Brian Atlasa girl or even hook up with a girl if she had a body count of 100 do you think that that's judgmental do you think it's wrong for him to use that metric to disqualify her I mean if it's like if he

Mandyreally liked her personality and was like really into her and stuff like that and just finds out her body count doesn't ask any more questions that's a deal breaker I mean look everyone's

Mandyliving their own lives I'm I'm not gonna like I just feel like that's a conversation to be had first but if that's a deal breaker to you that's a deal breaker like there's nothing you

Brian Atlascan do about that but I think do you object to it object to him ask it or him carrying that yes he has a do you object do you think that perhaps it's it's do you think maybe he's insecure do you

Brian Atlasthink he's immature for although although you might you may acknowledge that yes for some men this is a deal breaker it might be a deal breaker do you take issue you maybe you think well that it shouldn't be

Mandyyeah I mean it's kind of hard to draw a line where like where a

Mandyreal to those things I wouldn't I wouldn't judge as much for that but I still think that it's it shouldn't be an immediate deal breaker but I don't know like that that type of

Mandything is I I don't think it's that important to have a conversation about because I think that boils down to the individual whether they have a problem with that is something that they would discuss with their partner and I don't think it's something that everyone needs

Mandyto be commenting on and so everyone needs to be judging someone who has plus a hundred body count that's for them to deal with

Kikolike if there's a problem with that there's only a problem with someone having a problem with the body count over 100 if their body counts over 100. like if that guy if that guy's body

Kikocount is 100 or near 100 plus then yes there's a problem with him wanting having a problem with that girl's body count low but if his body counts low he hasn't slept with many people then I I would understand having an issue with

Brian Atlasyour partner having 10 times amount bodies bodies as you that's why you have to stay relative to well do you think so you're saying that if a guy he has a high body count it's

Kikowrong of him to want a woman who has a low body count yes or at least judging her or writing her off off right away because it's like you did the same thing like why does it make any different yeah it's a little different I personally I

Emilydon't mind if guys take girls body counts into account when pursuing them because well I'm comfortable in my decisions and I feel like we're automatically assuming

Emilythat low body counts are what's desired but I'm a virgin and guys like not all of them think that's a good thing like they some some get mad like not mad but

Emilythey'll be like frustrated and think that's a negative because they're like oh she won't don't want to talk to her like so I have nothing to do with you being a virgin and just the fact that you think it's going to be hard to sleep with you yeah

Brian Atlasso I it's not like they are mad because you have a low body count that's just because they just want to have sex and yeah because you're a virgin I mean look there's some women who are virgins who are not they're not

Brian Atlasparticularly inclined to wait a long time are you waiting until marriage or not you're just maybe looking for the right guy yeah love maybe okay but you know for most guys they hear that

Emilythey're gonna think okay I don't want I don't want to wait that long yeah I think it's fair of them to take my body count into consideration when deciding whether or not they want to pursue me

Brian Atlasright and I don't take offense if they would prefer to pursue a girl with a higher body count well I mean that's probably good for you because if their Prime primary interest when it comes to rewarding you and yeah they're weeding themselves out so you don't you probably

Brian Atlaswouldn't want to date a guy that just wants to you yeah so there's that but where where did we leave off on this we were

Brian Atlasyeah well I got a couple notes here I mean there's the double double standard for his reading my notes Here I have a couple things that I've never said before but that just crossed my mind maybe I'll just never said that before but well I was gonna say I was gonna say

Brian Atlasso and I don't I have like some notes here like I have literally pages and pages of notes I've never said any of this but I'm just waiting for the moment so

Brian Atlasokay this is kind of a joke but I said and this is I suppose in some scenario rebuttal to the body count thing I said men who like

Brian Atlaswomen are secretly gay yes they're in denial okay it's not you have it a little wrong well let me just finish it they want another man's come

Brian Atlasby proxy okay so no because they want because like a woman who's like really promiscuous like let's say you're a dude and you really like a girl and she just a guy like two hours ago

Kikotheir mouth and dick that's all I'm saying it's like a little bit it's a little bit that's not really going that the same usually it's like people are coming to attention now that they think

Kikomen who are serial cheaters are possibly down low gay because like they'll never be fulfilled by the woman in the relationships they seek it from I think there can be something to that too yeah

Priyaa whole different way so I was not laughing at anybody I was laughing at that because I read that just to clarify I didn't want to seem like an but I was reading that it's a new rebuttal that has what is this puppy can

Summeryou read puppy Vegas I have a 300 body count still you basically just called Puppy gay over

Priyaover birthday you know what puffy confirmer tonight are you gay

Katie300 women specify it says it says couch so maybe maybe it's talking about something

PriyaI wonder if he does that puffy seconds to just spell check no totally I think because we've looked at his Instagram before I think his Instagram is

Priyaan attempted a beard I'm just saying yeah he was gay he a puffy confirm inside she played for the other team send in send in a TTS you know he's like I'll just say this key code to the whole

Brian Atlasdouble the double standards thing like it makes sense for a guy even if he has a high body count because he's had experience he's had a lot of experience to prefer a woman with a low body count that makes sense that's

Brian Atlashypocritical disagree I disagree I don't think it's hypocritical I don't think it's hypocritical I think it's smart so it's smart I don't I don't agree with either side necessarily I I don't

Priyathink it's wrong for a man with a high body count to seek out a woman with a lower body count purely because I think that men and women value different things out of out of each other um

Priyathank you um thank you thank you very much um because essentially at least on a baseline level men value women in like

Priyatheir their Peak Prime like fertility youth Beauty that's that's like on a baseline level that's what they seek out we value somebody that can provide and

Priyaprotect for us so we look at things like um a man's monetary net worth and and his job and how reliable he is as like a protector that's why we're attracted to people that are more

Priyaum like physically fit taller like those are just kind of Baseline things that we look for um and yeah a woman with a high body count doesn't really align with somebody

Kikothat's you know youth like it's like most beautiful like natural I'm sure if I want to feel like protecting all that stuff and like even so like libel like I feel like I can count on them to

Kikodo that I personally don't think I could count on a man who slept with over a hundred plus women should always be there because I would always have the fear that he was going to cheat or other things like that but maybe a woman who had a closer body count to him

Kikowouldn't mind that thing and I also realized too with men and women it might be like a there's a ratio to it I would say like it doesn't have to be you have 10 bodies she has 10 bodies I do see it it's more of like he has 30 bodies she

Kikohas 10 bodies that's an even playing field to me I mean yeah but I mean like someone a girl with two bodies and a guy with 80 that's not even yeah or like a girl but like yeah it's fair yeah oh

Summeryeah that's interesting yeah yeah why not I mean personally I wouldn't really go for a guy at least like if he had a high body count too because just like high as in like I don't know but I also wouldn't want to talk about these either

Brian Atlasthough I wanted to point out a little difference though I want to point out a little difference so when it comes to the body count thing so in order for a guy to have a high body count that requires something like he's

Brian Atlasgot game he's got status he's got money he's good looking right a woman need not have any of the things I've just listed to get laid it's very easy for women to get laid so I think the differential

Brian Atlashere is like you as a woman you can get a high body count very easily it's super easy as a woman to get laid whereas for a guy there's a fair there's a much higher degree of

Brian Atlasdifficulty when it comes to getting laid so a guy who is capable who's saying skill based

KikoI've seen guys who are nothing take home pretty decent looking women all the time I do not need to be some you don't need to be some money that's not what this is

Kikomoney or attractive as a man to be is it easier sure of course it's just like it's a woman it's a woman it's easier but it's not that's not I don't think he's necessarily saying that you have to be like a top one percent guy to be able

Priyato pull chicks all day every day to have as a man to have sex as a man to have sex like your body count is not an award for you being a good person no no no no no so so I completely I disavowed that I

PriyaI don't think that like I'm definitely not saying that men should you know try and out compete each other in terms of body count but that is the culture that they they live in in like the pro culture uh not really

Priyabut what are you getting that what are you getting that no but it does take effort on a man's part in terms of trying to like woo a woman like a guy's not gonna just walk into a bar unless he's insanely attractive and just

Kikoattract women a lot of the times like they have to see guys who are a drink and spends about 10 minutes talking to her and she's not like Angeline and Jolie he has a pretty good chance

Brian Atlasyeah my friends do it I've seen it all the time but you you have this like confirmation bias where you will I said that maybe it's different because let me ask you we'll open this to the

Brian Atlaswhole table more often than not right I don't know if you guys have been at a party or I know some of you are just getting here at UCSB but more often than not if a guy's coming up to you or either slide let's take it digital too

Brian Atlassliding into your DMs messaging you on the dating app more often than not are you do you end up sleeping with a guy or do you end up rejecting him

Brian Atlasof all the guys that are like throwing their attention at you that are trying to hit you up do you inevitably sleep with them or do you inevitably reject them reject usually reject like the rejection rate I assume is like pretty

Brian Atlashigh so like this idea that okay just the first girl you see go talk to her at the at the bar 10 minutes she's gonna you okay it's a numbers like there's a significant numbers yeah I have to that's why I said if they try and put an effort towards it that's not it's not a

Kikoskill though because you bought three different girls a drink that night that's on a skill it's because it's showing that you are willing to do anything to get laid that's good do you think if a woman doesn't have to buy so sorry a woman doesn't have to buy a

Grace (Juice)drink or a dude literally nothing she just has to show up so a guy does have to buy at least a drink or even have like certain type of something you know like certain type of

Kikogame or whatever you want to call it I'm saying that's wrong but he's saying that a woman with a high body count is wrong compared to a man okay hold on let me finish because a woman doesn't have to do anything to get laid she can just open her legs whereas the man's put work

Kikoand effort towards it that doesn't make it a skill though is what I'm trying to say no I don't think he's yeah it might be like he has to no but it is he has to leave his house well to be honest if I like see a guy

Summerhigh body count I'm not like oh my gosh that must mean so many girls like him like for me if a guy is like yeah he might be skilled but honestly like if it's crazy numbers like that means like

Summerlike your morals and like I feel like at some point like I don't know just buy would I like if I'm looking for like a husband I'm not looking for someone who has like a hundred bodies because he's good at buying girls a drink and he's

Brian Atlascute and all that stuff but he's not like a guy's not going to tell you his body count but the thing is is that probably a guy who does have a high body

Kikocount is going to have the requisite experience just from interacting with women and in the bedroom he's gonna it just means they tried more it literally only means that they tried more to have

Kikosex is literally it I can't I could look like anything and just keep trying like as long as you are putting you could be attractive and not try to have sex so they're not going to be having a lot of sex but as long as it's the it just

Kikoshows you're trying because it's a skill to text and DM 100 girls and then you finally get three respond back is that a skill well no you just put time aside there is a certain way in which you're

Brian Atlasgoing to have to maneuver the conversation to lead it somewhere like how many DMS do you think you just don't even respond how many DMS don't go anywhere so there is some degree of like that's why I said the numbers game as

Kikolong as they keep trying no but it's not even a numbers game like if you if you just suck at communicating like you're gonna struggle severely yes but I'm like we already said the alcohol thing stuff like that well here

Kikothere's a difference if the guy goes to the club at 1am he's not getting late at 1am it closes at what 1 30. 132 but this is what I'm saying it's not right but as

Kikoall he has to do is be mid mildly attractive go into the club at 1am your girl looks like she's a little bit you know not in her best interest and you guys might be doing that they shouldn't be but that's what happens a

Kikolot of the time especially out here that's what happened at parties these girls get drunk they're not really thinking straight and the guys see it and they're like okay we're just gonna take her back it happens all the time happens

Kikoeverywhere the skill is they find out they've looked up who's Tipsy enough but not enough for them to get arrested okay okay let's differentiate though both men

Brian Atlasand women they go to social Gatherings both genders drink that's just kind of sense forever Men drink women drink people hook up I'm not claiming assault I'm not claiming in salt but I'm just bringing it to the light a way that

Brian Atlasbecause you're saying the only possibility with no yeah but I don't think men should do that I don't think they should be like but that's how men are getting their bodies don't do that but what like if we're

Kikotalking about like normal non-predatory like social dynamics then but I would say like a lot of men who have high body counts that's how they're accumulating them they're not accumulating it from but plenty of hitting them up plenty of

Brian Atlasmen and women that go out they have one drink and then they it's like a consensual it's I'm not saying I'm not saying anything it's not consensual I'm not saying anything's not consensual so don't worry okay fine

Brian Atlasyou're just saying you're just saying a mid guy can just go out to a bar or club and just like boom okay it's guaranteed I wouldn't say it's I guarantee but as long as they tried about three because like I'm not saying Three Chicks I'm not

Kikosaying it's assault but when you're drinking you might be more inclined to do some things that you wouldn't do if you weren't drinking so in that scenario I feel like it's yes it's very easy for men to because it's really easier it

Grace (Juice)doesn't mean that it's easy it's maybe a little bit easier but it doesn't mean that it's easy and they still have to do something you know like and actually talk to her to communicate I mean that's not a skill I actually strongly don't recommend I don't recommend well me

Brian Atlaspersonally as someone who's introverted who doesn't like to drink I certainly don't recommend to men one just because it's a waste of time there's uh there's a uh what's the term there's uh safety concerns I definitely don't recommend

Brian Atlasmen go to bars clubs parties Etc like get your money right go to the gym don't around in these party environments but that's just me as a introvert who doesn't dream but unless there's the champagne is there

Brian Atlaschampagne pop around there um but uh no this this idea that a guy can just go out and it's he's just gonna get laid like that's well you guys are literally it's just really ironic though

Kikobecause you guys began this podcast saying that women need to close their legs because you guys are sleeping around with everybody so which one is it are women sleeping with men or are they not like are we all eating into hookup culture and making it worse as women or

Kikoor are we all not sleeping with men and it's hard for them to get laid like a different discussion you always flip it to make it whatever way makes fits your fancy instead of actually looking at probably more statistical evidence that's out there well that's a totally different discussion or if you go

Brian Atlasoutside and just see it with your own eyes because I saw in college when I was living out there I saw at the bars working at the clubs no I'm not saying people people don't hook up I guess the main difference here

Brian Atlasis we're talking about the difficulty with which men and women have when it comes to getting a relationship or even just getting sex I think I mean if anyone wants to challenge me they can but I

Brian Atlasthink it's pretty evident that when it comes to purely just getting laid women have like a major leg up compared to men cannot disagree oh no no I'm I'm I don't even want to comment on that because I

Mandydon't know like like if I know um but the thing is for me let's say okay let's say that these mid men just don't are like not getting any woman to

Mandyhook up with they're having really a lot of trouble getting relationships so what why is that our problem that sounds like a you problem like it's not our job to gift these men relationships just

Brian Atlasbecause sure correct well I think you're great well yes men men are not owed relationships but women aren't owed relationships either and what but what I

Brian Atlassee happening what I see happening is because of the you know the global sexual marketplace where you where women have far more sexual optionality women are gonna women want winners like you

Brian Atlaswant to obviously you want to get with the best guy that you can get here's where I think women can get kind of into trouble because men want easy access to sex women might confuse that with relationship interest even though a guy

Brian Atlaswho might sleep with you he will never be in a relationship with you he might keep you around he might play some games or he some guys will feign like they want commitment like they want a relationship

Brian Atlasin order to get sex but there are definitely women who will also want to just oh can somebody fix that um yeah just push that back there are definitely

Brian Atlaswomen who will accept a guy saying well let's just see how it goes um they'll maybe hope that the guy oh the guy will say I don't want a relationship right now sometimes men will be very open they'll just say I'm

Brian Atlasnot looking for anything serious right now and the girls will go along with that hoping in the future he will want a relationship but he has zero intention of ever committing to that girl so sorry I'm losing my transfer but

Brian Atlasum okay so you're saying that men are not owed relationships no I agree nobody's owed anything right but so I just I don't really as women also don't be surprised when the boy that you're dealing with isn't going to commit to

Mandyyou I know I I think that's fair but like you know that's why I think you should women should go if you want like a serious relationship then go for a guy who wants a serious relationship you can

Mandygenerally like I mean I can't speak for all women but I feel like I can generally tell when someone's just trying to have sex and when someone is actually interested in you your hobbies you as a person wants to actually be in

Mandya relationship with you I get that there are definitely some guys who might fake that but like in my personal experience I haven't really encountered that and I

Mandythink that a lot of these issues feel like a really online issue like if you get off social media and dating apps not every single guy is like that in the real world

Brian Atlassure of course yeah but I wouldn't what I would say is like I think a lot of you hear complaints from a lot of women that these guys don't want to commit there's all these boys but that those are the guys that you're chasing after I

Brian Atlaswould argue that the men who are prepared to be dutiful loyal boyfriends who will commit to you are in your friend zone you're just not attracted to them because they're not exciting they're not XYZ you know you often hear this Trope of women are attracted to bad

Brian Atlasboys and jerks and women admit it themselves they like bad boys they like a guy who's maybe a little exciting so um women are often the ones who are picking these men who are either terrible for relationships or who will

Summerjust point blank never give you any commitment ever I don't think but back to like the friend zone thing if like I friend zone or I think of a guy as a friend I'm not going to settle for him if I don't fully think I could be like

Summerin love with him or like he's not friend zoned because like oh like he's not cute enough but it's just genuinely because like I just don't think I could see myself with him so I wouldn't settle if I couldn't find anything out like that doesn't mean I'm gonna go for the

Summernecessarily bad boy or like boy but I just wouldn't prefer to settle for someone if I already friend zoned them or like I didn't want them well I think the the danger is though and is

Brian Atlasif women are all chasing after a certain tear of man then that tier of men have no there's no reason for them to commit because they just have easy access to sex so what you're going to have like

Brian Atlasand also I think this is not all women but I think a lot of women have an over inflated sense of their attractiveness in the dating Marketplace so you think you're you

Brian Atlasmight think oh I can get here's here's the thing right you can sleep with a guy and it's very different between men and women you can sleep with the guy he'll sleep with you

Brian Atlashe will never commit to you so you shouldn't confuse sexual attraction to with relationship attraction a guy will sleep with you that will never be in a relationship with you and that could come down to could be your personality

Brian Atlasit could be your looks because here's the difference right for a I think for a woman to sleep with a guy he needs to be at least physically attractive enough excuse me at least

Brian Atlasphysically attractive enough to be in a relationship with but the guy will sleep with a girl whose physical attractiveness just on that Soul metric he will never commit to her but he welcomes the easy access to sex yeah

Summerwell if you like say like oh girls have easy like a life on easy mode like most girls like have an easy way to like have sex that's obviously like that's not the girls issue that's the guy's issue like

Summerif oh you're complaining about oh girls have it so easy yeah why do we have it easy because of guys guys will sleep because you guys will agree to it and you will pay for it you'll fly but they won't commit to you

Grace (Juice)that that's except like that's what women want you know so yeah they they have like they have to pursue for sex and they can have it or however they want it you know like but we want commitment like yeah that's what most women want I

Priyadon't think like anybody's like you know that's what I agree I agree yeah I'm not saying that it's right or wrong obviously but like on a baseline level excuse me on a baseline level women are

Priyathe Arbiters of sex and men are the Arbiters of relationships I kind of agree with that so you have to kind of hold it it's a balance but you have to hold them accountable if a man wants sex from you you have to

Priyaum and you want a relationship out of the like your interaction with him then you have to hold him accountable he has to show you that he's willing to you know check these boxes so that he can

Grace (Juice)get what he wants in the end game so you can use sex to you know to hold up sex to get him to do all these things for you at least you have like you know you won't be out like in zero if nothing

Summergoes on on a relationship nothing makes me feel worse than well I never had a one night stand never it's not my thing yeah well I got the cap I feel like I've been in the position too where like I've decided if it's a

Summerrelationship or not though so I think like yeah maybe for most people but I think definitely there is instances where like you like the girl is like in charge and the girl decides

Summerbecause personally for me almost every single one of mine besides one has been where I've ended things or I've like been the one to say no to being like official and that's okay too yeah you know you can be on your right to not

Kikowant a relationship with a guy that's yeah that's right yes see the whole woman can be liberal sex and Men relationships but like that's not as calm and as people like to make

Brian Atlasit seem yeah I kind of I kind of actually agree I think honestly uh it's only really the top percent of men that control access to relationships yeah I would say like for

Brian Atlasnormal guys like it's still women control access to sex and they could control access to relationships because you can't get typically for most scenarios you don't get to the

Brian Atlasrelationship point prior to having sex so if you control sex then you by necessity control the relationship

Grace (Juice)I mean like you like I'm just saying like not giving it out on the like the well you can't I know that there's relationships that come out like of you hooking up the first night like you you never know you know yeah and I feel like

Brian Atlasyou can ask the guy too you can be like hey what do you want you know and hold them accountable of what he says I will just add to the whole uh Kiko we were having a back and forth about

Kikoum what was it you're saying ah even a mid guy could just you know go out there get laid super easily I mean I'm not saying if he looks like Lord farquat or something that's going to be just

Kikogetting going to pound town but I'm just saying no he doesn't have to be some 10 out of 10 Chad with thousands of dollars or million dollars in his bank account no that's not unless you're going after Angelina Jolie or something crazy like

Kikothat but I think what I'm saying is if majority of guys if they put an effort in they can always bat a decent average in their own range what's a decent average like do you think let me ask you

Kikoa question do you think an average guy if he went up to 10 women in the night every single night he could get laid yeah I would say if you go to pretend unless he's picking like the 10 most attractive woman in the room but if he's

Kikopicking 10 women who are comparable to him he's getting laid that night yeah no yeah I would say I mean it depends on a club at a club yes definitely even at the club but not at a club at least he's not gonna get rejected by every single

Brian Atlasone of them and there's a possible for those advancing in the future but I yeah do you know why they call it getting lucky though that only applies to Men Women there's no luck involved with when it comes to women getting sex

Brian Atlaslike ladies here right if you I know some of you are not maybe particularly inclined to hook up culture but if you wanted if you woke up one morning and

Brian Atlasyou decided I want to today do you think with certainty like a hundred percent you know you could get laid do you think you could yeah but it's like is it the person I

Kikowant that's the thing that was different between men and women men if they say that they wake up I'm gonna get laid tonight they're willing to sleep with anything whereas woman could wake up and say that and still usually have like a a standard so yeah there might be like

Priyathere might she might wake up in that mood but will she get someone who fits her that she'll actually end up doing it with but that maybe not but doesn't that kind of prove his point in terms of like men have to try harder to achieve no I'm

Kikosaying because men are willing to sleep with absolutely anything out there I will they so their their opportunity for them is they will have sex that night sorry whereas a woman yes there's people out there we can sleep with but it's not

Priyagoing to happen because we are we the one that we want to sleep with or the ones that we do want to sleep with we don't have as easy as access yeah but you lower you you you you essentially make the pool for your potential sexual

Priyapartners smaller as a Woman by having those standards if men have no standards and they have that that pool yes they might be on average sleeping with more women than women are sleeping with men

Kikobut they do have to try harder because they're they like I've already yeah I've already admitted that it's uh sex is more accessible for women but my whole overall point though is even though sex is more acceptable for women men are

Kikostill having more casual sex I understand that they have to try I'm not saying they don't have to try but it's not trying very hard is my whole point they don't have to try that hard to have

Priyamost insane amount of sex and I'm saying they don't have to be amazingly exceedingly attractive either no I'm not I've never said that they have to be like extremely attractive or

Priyahave like let's go uh finish up no no you're good I I never said they had to be exceptional in any sort of Avenue but they do have to you know put in some sort of effort they have to at least be you know charismatic be able to hold a

Kikoconversation something of that sort to be more have low very low standards that's the whole that's my point because you know there's a lot of you guys like the we aren't like you can't deny that there's a lot of women who are easy like that no absolutely I'm not saying that

Kikoat all so it's like those are the ones they're sleeping with or the ones that are super easy like you don't have to try that hard to sleep with the woman that's easy like they don't have to do that much yeah so I was like is that really a skill or I've never said that it was yeah well

Brian Atlasmaybe maybe we could do a little uh a role play we'll see we'll see the ladies game here at the table we can try that just going around though um if you're sewing if you were so inclined do you

Brian Atlasthink should it's 9 p.m now oh my God already no any of you think you could get laid within the next two hours if you really put your hand or something

TTS Readeryeah thank you brother hey brain sorry I'm late busy day went on tours at schools I don't attend four tutorings to promote

TTS Readercarcinogens because it goes with my hair removed a bunch of lettuce from Puffy's keyboard hi Skyler R.I.P and peace in the chat for True

Brian AtlasR.I.P true in the chats all right be true Justice for True okay um do you think you could get laid within 24 hours or tonight even I'd have

Mandyto I think I would have to re-download Tinder but probably but I wouldn't find one I think I would be personally interested in I think I could if I wanted to tonight

Mirayeah we know you don't want to but if you if you were inclined to could right yeah yeah like if I wanted to but I would never put myself in that situation sure what about you exactly if I was like in client if I was inclined

Summerto then yeah probably but yeah yeah if I wanted to I probably could but I'm not saying I would I don't think I would yeah I'm in a relationship well if you were

Grace (Juice)single you know yeah I mean probably you could okay yeah I'm like I'm down no just kidding I'm down here of

Grace (Juice)um no no no oh no no no no I like men because I didn't want to say anything no no but um yeah I guess so but no no I I

Brian Atlasdon't want to word if I were single and so inclined yeah 100 like as a as a guy you can't just wake up and know like yeah I could get late today that doesn't

Kikowork like it takes some time some time okay so take some time where are they all I'm just gonna step outside and then gonna go up to the first person they say and be like hey you want to the night no they're going to put in effort too if they want it to get laid tonight yeah

Kikoand they would be in your place within the next two hours to hook up no okay it's like it's not as yes we could do it but you have to put an effort towards it too I don't know why you always think that women just have uh

Brian Atlasdownload dating app oh you don't you're not gonna send the first message right okay cool you don't have to send the first message the guy can move it forward you could do a little layup for the dude hey what's up do you want to

Summercome over to my place boom done that's it yeah well that's it guys as a guy that's the guy's problems the girls have it easy because the guys are so easy

Summerthat's that's the bottom you guys are easy yeah they're like if the girls are so easy and if they be text them like that then the guy's response to yeah I'll be over that's like that's his own issue like yeah that's we should we

Brian Atlasshould let's do a role play we're gonna do a role play did you guys bring the mic Madison you don't have the mic fail um okay we'll do role play here at the table so I'm gonna pretend to be a chick my name's Brianna

Miraum who am I who's gonna be the uh who's gonna try to be a dude and hit on me let's see um you're gonna do it go ahead like a

Brian Atlasnormal dude like I would dude you're the dude what's your name again Mira okay your name is Myron okay um

Brian Atlasam I role-playing as if like how I want a guy to hit on me or how a guy usually hits you you're you're putting yourself in the dude shoes I'm a girl you're a guy you're trying to get at me let's see

Brian Atlasthe game okay so what's the context give us the scenario um bar like a bar club at the bar too

Mirayou've been to a bar before no but I'm just role-playing right now cool all right we're at a bar hey can I buy you a drink oh sure

Miraokay what would you like Sex in the City Sex in the City that's a good one

Miraum so are you from here yeah do you go to school or are you graduating I go to school what school do you go to CC or UC I I go to

Brian Atlasum wait what's I go to what's the Christian one Westmont thank you Madison Westmont is that a is it a high school or a college let's go College what do you what's your

Miramajor equestrian equestrian that's hello that's hello cool what I always wanted to ride horses

Mira[Laughter] I mean like how many horses do you have any horses three three horses

Brian Atlasthat's crazy do you ride them often yeah yeah yeah you know like Tuesdays and Thursdays Tuesdays and Thursdays could you take me one of those days I'd

Brian Atlasalways wanted to learn oh uh I guess uh I don't know maybe it's okay you don't have to don't worry okay okay

Mirayeah some original content here Brian yeah where'd you get this crazy it's almost like it sounds like we're role-playing another person within this table what do you mean oh the question

Brian AtlasI'm trying to be [Laughter] yeah is that it are you done seen I mean I'll give you a little credit I'll give you a little credit at least you were able to

Miraum keep the conversation up yeah I mean how much do you use yes three she'd slay she'd kill it yeah you get all the

Brian Atlashell yeah don't ask someone in a bar if they're in high school though yeah I mean I guess it's better to clarify

Brian Atlasyou do it okay oh okay um Brianna where where are we okay

Brian Atlas[Laughter] hey what's your name Becky Becky what are you doing that's how girls do that you just

Brian Atlasswitched your name you were Brianna a second ago it was actually Brianna what are you up to Becky shopping I'll be serious I'll be

Brian Atlasserious um oh you know just getting my groceries yeah are you from around here

Jillso what's your what's your favorite food item from Trader Joe's oh um do you like their filet mignons

Jilloh shoot

Katielike literally I've never done this I've never done this no I've never flirted with anybody does Trader Joe's even have one minions

Brian Atlascome on um you got it here I'm going to help you okay okay yeah yeah okay ask me what my major is what's your major dance

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