HEATED DEBATE With College Girls & RAGEQUIT KEEKO! | Dating Talk #104

Date: 2023-09-27
Duration: 4h 52m

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00TTS Reader(audience)
SPEAKER_02Mandy(guest)
SPEAKER_03Priya(guest)
SPEAKER_04Summer(guest)
SPEAKER_05Mira(guest)
SPEAKER_06Grace (Juice)(guest)
SPEAKER_07Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_08Audio Clips(audience)
SPEAKER_09Hannah(guest)
SPEAKER_10Jill(guest)
SPEAKER_11Kiko(guest)
SPEAKER_12Emily(guest)
SPEAKER_13Mandy(guest)
SPEAKER_14Katie(guest)

Key Moments

00:00:09
IntroBrian opens the show explaining 16 flakes occurred across 72 hours. Lists flakers by name: Bianca, Cara, Tiffany, Isabella DeLuca, Claudia, Marina, Chloe, Josie, Samantha, Sarah, Cassidy, Briona, Brianna, Roxy, Taylor, Wendy, Christina. Credits Madison and Nick for doing a street walk to find 7 guests in 1 hour.

welcome to the whatever dating Talk podcast... we had 16 people flake

00:06:19
IntroGuests introduce themselves in order: Kiko (23, criminology student), Mandy (21, UCSB classics/art history), Emily (19, UCSB senior econ/comms), Jill (18, UCSB dance), Mira (18, UCSB biopsych), Summer (18, UCSB pre-stats/data science), Hannah (20, UCSB brain sciences), Katie (18, UCSB history), Grace/Juice (36, server, Costa Rica), Priya (22, ASU online, equestrian).

without further Ado we're going to have the guests introduce themselves

00:10:24
RelationshipKiko: in a relationship, 9 months. Longest past relationship 2 years.

um I'm in a relationship and my longest relationship was like two years

00:14:00
RelationshipMandy (SPEAKER_02): super single, 3-4 years. One relationship over 1 year (high school). Has never even talked to anyone since. No social media — made her first Snapchat account while waiting in the studio.

um I'm super single I had I've been in one relationship it was over a year long

00:23:13
RelationshipSummer describes open arrangement with True (in flight school in AZ, her first boyfriend, she is his first girlfriend). She set terms: both can see other people while in college. She is visiting him at Thanksgiving.

I'm going to college and then the guy that I'm talking to is living in Arizona going to flight school

00:33:37
Key MomentEmily reveals she has never had social media and made her first Snapchat while waiting outside the studio. She describes avoiding all dating because of how guys in the current culture act.

oh yeah I had no social media right before um actually while I was waiting to come up to this studio I made a Snapchat

00:36:36
RelationshipGrace/Juice: single 2 years, two relationships total (one 2 years). No current situationship.

well I'm single right now I've had like two relationships and like several situationships

00:47:16
Key MomentEmily (SPEAKER_12) confronted by Brian: "the guys that are hot know they're hot and that's the bad part." She describes approaching a guy during move-in weekend who was overconfident. Brian challenges whether she is shooting out of her league.

the guys that are hot know they're hot and that's the bad part

00:49:50
Key MomentMandy reveals a guy from SBCC (community college) fully impersonated a UCSB student — wore UCSB merch, met her at a campus event, registered her at UCSB events — for weeks before admitting he didn't attend.

there are guys from the community college that pretend to go to UCSB

01:43:39
Key MomentJill reveals she is a virgin waiting until marriage. Confirmed by Brian; she says she also believes in premarital cuddling but not sex.

I'm single and I've never been in a relationship before... yeah I would say for sure [waiting until marriage]

01:59:00
ControversyGrace/Juice reveals that a wealthy older friend (nearly 60) funded first-class trips to New York, Hawaii, Las Vegas (~9 trips), paid her rent twice, and gave a $14,000 check — without any sexual or romantic contact whatsoever. Brian does live math totaling the value.

he gave me one time a check... fourteen thousand dollars

02:05:00
Key MomentMandy (SPEAKER_02) reveals she was offered $5,000 by a Tinder hookup to sleep with him again. She declined, citing safety concerns (power dynamic shift when a man pays). He immediately blocked her. She later encountered him awkwardly at her workplace.

he offered to pay me um to sleep with him... he was like five grand

02:13:00
ControversyEmily makes the core argument: if all women raised their standards, men would be forced to change their behavior. Kiko counterargues: there will always be some women participating in hookup culture, so collective action won't work — instead find men who don't want hookup culture.

if all girls raise their standards a little bit it will force the guys to have to change the way they act

02:37:19
Key MomentRole-play segment: Brian pretends to be a woman; Summer plays a man hitting on him at a bar. Summer's approach involves asking about horses (equestrian major), which Brian plays along with.

hey can I buy you a drink oh sure... what school do you go to... equestrian equestrian that's hello

02:42:38
Key MomentJill plays a woman at Trader Joe's during role-play. Her responses are painfully awkward — she has never flirted. "Does Trader Joe's even have one?" Brian tries to coach her ("ask me what my major is") but she fails to follow through.

like literally I've never done this I've never done this no I've never flirted with anybody

02:50:48
ControversyKiko's rhetorical win moment: "You guys said women need to close their legs because they're sleeping with everyone. But then you say men can't get laid. Which one is it?" — the contradiction silences Brian briefly.

women are sleeping with everybody don't know how to close their legs or men can't find anybody to sleep with

03:06:20
ControversyKiko confronts red pill influencer consumption: cites Sneako being shocked when 12yo boys at a baseball game said "kill all women." Argues red pill content is radicalizing young men who lost social development years during COVID.

these random kids run up to him in a baseball game and they're literally like 12 year old little boys and they're like yeah women all women we hate women like kill women kill all women

03:18:40
QuoteEmily: "I think it's delusional to pretend like missandry is so prevalent and also even if it was super prevalent that it's equivalent to misogyny." Argues female man-haters are almost never physically dangerous whereas misogynistic men are.

I also think it's delusional to pretend like missandry is so prevalent

03:25:00
ControversyBrian argues patriarchy theory is a conspiracy theory that breeds contempt for men. Kiko and Emily argue mainstream feminism is first-wave equality, not radical. Brian challenges: "Has any feminist organization ever lobbied to equalize the draft?" Brian cites feminist terrorism (Andy Warhol shooting).

if you start teaching women that they are oppressed and the person to blame is this other gender men

04:26:38
Key MomentGrace/Juice says Andrew Tate content is better understood when watched in full. Mandy (SPEAKER_02) aggressively disagrees — says his videos asking about body counts are degrading. Brian offers to play Tate video. Discussion of whether viewing full context changes perception.

if you really like go in and look at the videos of them speaking it will change your perception completely of them

04:33:58
Key MomentBrian plays Fresh & Fit clip of Tate talking about emotional connection mattering more than sexual technique. Most guests (including Emily) endorse the clip's message. Kiko: "right message, wrong sponsor." Emily agrees Tate's diagnoses are often right but lifestyle prescriptions are wrong.

sex sex this position that position don't you feel like you get to a point in your life with something more than that

04:49:15
QuoteEmily on agreeing with Tate's emotional connection clip: "right message, wrong sponsor" — encapsulates her view of Andrew Tate throughout the episode.

it's like right message wrong sponsor again like yeah

Topics Discussed

00:00:00
Introductions & Backstory of Flakes

Brian explains that 16 people flaked in 72 hours before the show; 7 guests were recruited from the Santa Barbara streets 1 hour before. Guests introduce themselves: Kiko (co-host, 23, criminology), Mandy (21, classics/art history), Emily (19, econ/comms senior), Jill (18, dance), Mira (18, biopsych), Summer (18, pre-stats), Hannah (20, brain sciences), Katie (18, history), Grace/Juice (36, server, Costa Rica), Priya (22, ASU, equestrian).

00:10:24
Relationship Status Round

Each guest shares relationship status. Kiko: in relationship 9 months. Mandy: single 3-4 years, bisexual. Emily: super single, one year relationship 3+ years ago. Jill: single, never had relationship, summer fling only. Summer: open arrangement with True (AZ). Summer talks about D1 football player in Colorado she ghosted. Hannah: long-distance boyfriend at Cal Poly. Katie: single her whole life (18). Grace: single 2 years. Priya: new relationship (~1 month).

00:15:00
UCSB & College Hookup Culture

Discussion of UCSB's reputation as a party/hookup school. Guests debate whether women should close their legs / raise their standards. Emily argues that when some women accept low-effort hookup culture it forces others into a market with lower standards. Kiko pushes back: women with high standards should just seek men who don't want hookup culture rather than trying to change the pool. Girls discuss being approached at frats, pushy guys, and encounter with a man who faked being a UCSB student.

02:00:00
Sugar Daddies & Transactional Relationships

Brian asks about sugar daddy offers, fly-outs, and men offering money. Mandy: got "will fund your life" DMs but declined immediately. Summer: was offered $5,000 by a Tinder hookup to sleep with him again; declined. Grace: reveals a wealthy older friend (~60yo) funded first-class travel (New York, Hawaii, Las Vegas, 8-9 trips total), paid rent twice, gave a $14,000 check — all without any sexual contact.

02:03:20
Dating Apps & Body Count Discussion

Brian analyzes Bumble dynamic (women send "hey" then men carry conversation). Discussion of whether women controlling access to sex means they control relationships. Debate: are women with high body counts less desirable even for one-night stands? Brian argues men prefer lower body count even for casual sex. Mandy disagrees. Kiko: body count is relative to the man's. Long exchange about whether high-body-count women still provide relationship value.

02:35:00
Men's Access to Sex vs Women's

Can a mid-level man just go out and get laid? Kiko argues yes if he targets women comparable to him. Brian is skeptical. Role-play exercise: Brian pretends to be a woman; Summer plays the man hitting on her (horse topic). Jill plays a very awkward/unresponsive woman. Debate over whether men and women have comparable access to casual sex; Kiko argues men do accumulate bodies by targeting easy women rather than through skill.

03:03:20
Red Pill Content & Its Effects on Men

Discussion of Andrew Tate, Fresh & Fit, Sneako and their influence on young men. Kiko argues red pill content creates isolated, objectifying mindsets (cites Sneako at baseball game with 12yo boys saying "kill all women"). Priya agrees Tate's diagnoses are often correct but prescriptions are harmful. Emily defends some red pill content as raising awareness of male loneliness. Brian plays Andrew Tate "lonely men" video clip.

03:08:20
Feminism & Patriarchy Debate

Extended debate: is feminism about equality or women's advocacy? Is patriarchy theory accurate? Brian argues teaching women they are oppressed breeds contempt for men. Kiko and Emily argue mainstream feminism is first-wave (equality) not radical. Discussion of feminist studies requirements at UCSB, media portrayals of men, HR departments, circumcision as male oppression (Brian's example). Emily: missandry is much less dangerous than misogyny statistically. Brian cites Andy Warhol being shot.

04:23:20
Andrew Tate Video Reactions

Brian plays two Andrew Tate video clips: (1) Tate on male loneliness — touches on men who never get DMs or attention; all guests agree male loneliness is real. (2) Tate/Fresh & Fit on body count forehead branding — would 99% of problems be solved if women wore body counts on foreheads? Mixed responses. (3) Andrew Tate on sex being about emotional connection, not technique — almost all guests agree with this clip. Brian wraps show.

Transcript

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Brian Atlasbehind here normally we go live at 5 PM it's now about 6 10 p.m my apologies guys we had today was we've done over 100 shows today was the uh most
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Brian Atlascatastrophic day when it came to guests absolutely snafu Fubar hit fan situation um luckily we uh Madison and Nick went
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Brian Atlasdown to the Mean Streets of Santa Barbara and we're able to get seven people just on the street within like an hour's notice to come be on the show so those of you who are joining us kind of
00:03:38
Brian Atlaslast minute thank you very much appreciate it uh but yeah we had um we had 16 people flake now obviously 16 people we never have 16 people on the show when I say that I mean we had some
00:03:50
Brian Atlasflakes so I'll break it down within the 72-hour period before the show start we had four girls flake within a 24-hour period two girls flake within a 12-hour period four girls flake within a two hour period
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Brian Atlasthree girls flake within the one hour period three girls flake um if I have my uh if I have this up to date so um you know well we obviously will if someone flakes three days ago we try to
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Brian Atlasfill the people that we filled they ended up flaking so uh shout out to Bianca Cara Tiffany Isabella DeLuca Claudia Marina Chloe Josie Samantha Sarah cassette briona Brianna Roxy
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Brian AtlasTaylor Wendy Christina you I love you guys very much um thank you guys for uh flaking appreciate it okay what oh I could have done more I could
00:04:38
Kikoshow I could show the messages I'm salty I'm very salty okay [Music] subscribers yeah that was like there's
00:04:50
Brian Atlasno way that many women in a row so I was like no that's the people that yeah and so uh I could show you guys the messages maybe some of these flakes are valid mostly it's but uh you
00:05:03
Brian Atlasknow ultimately look at the end of the day um I think that's what as a guy you're gonna be dealing with in 2023 when it comes to dating you going to be dealing with you know flaking uh by the way the panel's absolutely stacked against me
00:05:16
Brian Atlasum it's like what do we have 11 people here all right I'll try to hold my own but I'm outnumbered um but I I will say gentlemen that's
00:05:24
Brian Atlaswhat you're dealing with in 2023 so what what what's with the eye roll Kika yeah you flaked a couple times am I gonna throw you under the bus now
00:05:35
Brian Atlasremember that one time you know showed or maybe the two times I definitely told you no no no no there was a day there was definitely at least
00:05:43
Emilyone show where it was a no-show but baby yeah maybe he doesn't hold that against you or anything I secretly do I
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Brian Atlassecretly you've brought in this one he definitely holds grudges 100 I I hold grudges yes well here I am yup here you are well we we uh we're the homies now I guess so you told you texted me like
00:06:06
Brian Atlasthree hours we'll see how hours of course we'll see how tonight goes okay um so uh without further Ado so yeah guys sorry that we had the delay you know 16 people flaked thank you to those of you who
00:06:19
Brian Atlascame in last minute I appreciate it without further Ado we're going to have the guests introduce themselves so please tell us your name age and occupation go ahead uh hi my name is Kiko I'm 23 and I'm a student
00:06:30
Mandyokay welcome oh my name's Mandy I am 21 years old and I am a student at UCSB uh really quick what do you study Kiko criminology what what are you studying at UCSB oh
00:06:42
EmilyI'm a double major in Classics and art history okay what about you hi I'm Emily I'm 19 and a senior at UCSB majoring in econ
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Brian Atlasand accounting and communication triple triple Major economic accounting is one oh it's one thing and then Community double major yeah okay but you're a senior at 19. so did you get
00:07:03
Emilysome college credits in high school or um yeah I did self-paced school and just went really fast during covid worst time of my life
00:07:12
Brian Atlasbut worked out well yes I'm finishing early graduating uh early so yeah so you were while you were in high school you were enrolling in like college classes at the city college or something or
00:07:24
Emilyum yeah during my third year of high school I did my junior year of high school senior of high school and freshman year of college and then I did my sophomore year of college instead of my senior year of high school and then I
00:07:35
Brian Atlastransferred to UCSB did my junior year and now I'm a senior here wow okay a little hard to follow along though thank you wait is this your first year in person or did you do last year in person
00:07:47
Jilllast year was in person and you were here at UCSB yeah what about you um I'm Jill I'm 18 and I'm a student at UCSB and I'm majoring in dance dance major okay yeah uh do you have is there
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Jilla uh specific type of dance jazz dance ballet what are you doing I do also like jazz ballet hip-hop top contemporary yeah tap dance yeah you know on the tap dance yeah can you demonstrate something later yeah
00:08:11
Brian Atlasof course okay [Laughter] but okay very cool um how long have you been dancing uh 14 years and what was it what would you say is your primary format of dance ballet
00:08:23
Brian Atlasor just everything everything yeah you've done but have you done ballet for 14 years I think yeah I think ballet 12 maybe okay yeah because I hear the it like your
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Mirafeet oh yeah my feet are disgusting I'm a dancer Good Times it's awesome okay what about you um my name's Mira I'm 18 and I'm also a
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Summerstudent at UCSB and my major is biopsych okay biosec under I'm summer I'm also 18 and my major is pre-stats and data science and I also go
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Hannahto UCSB welcome I'm Hannah I'm 20. I also go to UCSB and I'm a cycling brain Sciences major all right
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KatieUCSB represent okay what about you I'm Katie I'm 18. I'm also a student at UCSB and I'm a history major so did you say 18 or not 18 18 got it okay
00:09:21
Grace (Juice)hi my name is Grace I go by juice I'm 36 and I'm a server you go by juice where did it tell us the origin story of that nickname well my full name is Grace
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Grace (Juice)Justine my mom doesn't like Grace So I go by Justine but it's so hard for me to say my name here so I go buy juice just because it's a little bit easier I thought it was like a gang name or
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Brian Atlassomething no no no where are you from I'm from Costa Rica but I've been living in Costa Rica yeah but I've been living here for eight years like yeah so juice isn't that didn't originate
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Brian Atlasfrom the Mean Streets of Costa Rica yeah no no well yes but it doesn't mean yeah it's not like it yeah okay cool welcome
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Priyathank you I'm Priya I'm 22 years old I am a full-time student uh at ASU online I co-run a family business and I am an
00:10:12
Brian Atlasequestrian how many horses do you have I have three Brian good times three horses all right there you have it folks um wow
00:10:24
Brian AtlasI'll have actually might have some specific uh questions related to uh the students but uh we're gonna go around the table once more so please what is your current relationship status so are you single are you in the talking stage
00:10:36
Brian Atlassituationship Friends with Benefits relationship married polycule are you part of a harem sex cult who knows people are it's 2023 if you're single how long have you been single and what's
00:10:48
Kikoyour longest relationship you've ever been in go ahead um I'm in a relationship still and my longest really what is huh
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Kikokeep going okay um I'm in a relationship and my longest relationship was like two years is that your current one no my current one's been we're working on nine months
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Mandyokay cool oh um so I am currently single my last relationship was more of like a
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Mandysituationship maybe like two months ago-ish okay and my longest relationship was like five to six months long as five to six months so current
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Mandyyou said currently single currently single enjoying it and you were in a situationship to two months ago did I say two months I I probably like around it was more recent but it was
00:11:46
Brian Atlasprobably like three months ago and at last did you did you said it lasted only two months or something yeah I wasn't very long okay gotcha um why did he dump you oh that both of you to assume that
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Mandywas it could be a she yeah you could have done the dumping who knows oh no that that was all me um I did well it wasn't like a dump it was more just like
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Mandya I slowly stopped responding as often and then he kind of got the hint which was a little awkward but you know okay so be it wait you sort of stopped
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Mandyresponding I would respond occasionally but it would be a lot more like dry answers um so like a ghost like you ghosted like that I also had to see him
00:12:31
Brian Atlasoccasionally so it was like a gradual ghost dragged it out yeah yeah okay and then eventually there either he took
00:12:41
Mandythe he got he got what you were doing it wasn't like a dumping per se we just it wasn't like we had anything official so it was just like a drifting and we're on
00:12:51
Brian Atlaslike good terms so oops and you just um you just lost interest basically yeah I find that happens a lot with me it happens a lot
00:13:03
Mandyyeah I'm usually the one to lose interest first okay and then does it sort of play out the same way where it slow ghost or not necessarily a slow
00:13:14
Brian Atlasghost but a slow like petering off of my interest it just uh Fades exactly Fizzles out okay that's a good way to describe it got it um also I'm just
00:13:24
Mandycurious about your uh earrings the little yeah the little cigarette case interesting do you smoke cigarettes um not very often but a girl was selling them on campus and I thought they were
00:13:35
Brian Atlassuper cute and went with my hair okay yeah it matches your hair okay so uh ever since that situationship nothing um no because I kind of find that I
00:13:47
Mandyenjoy my alone time I more like have going out and having fun but not really having to be forced to like respond all the time because I like to kind of do things on my own time so that doesn't
00:14:00
Emilyreally isn't really compatible with like a serious relationship so I'm kind of not in that place yet okay what about you
00:14:09
Emilyum I'm super single I had I've been in one relationship it was over a year long um that's actually the only guy I've
00:14:19
Emilyever talked to in my life and that was a while ago so nothing since one year how long have you been single
00:14:29
Emilythree three years four years like you yeah give or take okay so this is like a high school relationship yeah yeah got it so super single yes like extremely
00:14:40
Brian Atlaslike don't even talk to anyone at all nobody nobody there hasn't even like a crush or a fling or any nothing no okay there was a situation
00:14:59
Emilyoh yeah I had no social media right before um actually while I was waiting to come up to this studio I made a Snapchat so
00:15:08
Brian Atlasthat's my first form of social media who uh was the one who encouraged well they uh everyone just asked for social media and I'm always like sorry don't have one and
00:15:20
Emilypeople think like taking your number is so personal right that's true so I just made it you've never had social media ever I did like in elementary
00:15:30
Brian Atlasand then honestly good for you yeah no that's how you or a senior at 19. exactly okay all right um so you said there was a little something though right
00:15:42
Emilyslightly on accident yeah
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Emilyum I met a guy at school and then he introduced me to his best friend slash roommate who I became friends with he was setting us up and
00:16:02
Emilythen while trying to set us up we got together a little bit so I kind of did a slice
00:16:13
EmilySwap and then decided I should actually continue never speaking to boys ever again in my life so are you not interested in dating at all right now
00:16:22
EmilyI am but I it's not a priority I'm really not a fan of the way guys in our dating culture act so I completely avoid it sure we'll we'll come back to that
00:16:35
Brian Atlasokay um your senses are up the wheels are turning I'm writing that one down no I just want to get have let everyone have an opportunity to uh answer the question
00:16:47
Brian Atlasbut we can definitely revisit that so so there was uh two guys one and there was a Switcheroo kind of thing friends slash roommates don't recommend so you were interested in the first guy the first
00:17:00
Emilyguy introduced you to the next guy then you the next guy was setting me up with the first guy and then during the setup pull the move yeah that sounds complicated yeah
00:17:13
Brian Atlaswhat about you I'm single and I've never been in a relationship before Singapore never been in a relationship uh what's the uh
00:17:24
Jillhave you been on a date have you had maybe like a not a boyfriend girlfriend thing but maybe you're talking to a guy for like a month have you ever had yeah yeah this past summer it's like a cute little Summer Fling summer flame okay and that
00:17:38
Jillwas what two or three months or something like that yeah like started early June ended August were you friends before or no he actually thought I hated him like I swore I hated him all year I
00:17:49
Jilldidn't but you you wait why did he think you hated them okay so last year at senior Sunrise he didn't know my name and he like felt terrible about it and I don't know I think I might just have RBF
00:18:02
Jilland we were in like one class together and he just never wanted like he just thought I hated him because he did he didn't know my name one time yeah it was really why oh you had a class together yeah just one class
00:18:14
Brian Atlasthough and so he thought you hated him because he didn't know your name I mean you guys didn't know each other though no we had never met
00:18:23
Jillbefore so I don't know okay oh yeah well I was because of the RBF yeah he just assumed that you hated him but he assumed I hated him I like I don't think I ever spoke another word to him
00:18:36
Brian Atlasso I have a question for the table really quick on this for the whole girl for all of the girls have you ever been like talking to guy maybe he's hitting on you maybe he's flirting on you flirting with you excuse me flirting on him
00:18:47
Brian Atlasand you're talking and you at one point earlier on in the interaction you had introduced yourself you had given your name and then later on in the conversation maybe he asked for it again or he forgets maybe he's going for the
00:19:00
Brian Atlasnumber and he's like uh what's his name would you be or have you ever been offended if a guy in that situation you already gave the name once but if he goes for it again have you
00:19:12
Miraever been upset that he didn't remember never no no okay it depends yeah because like I mean like if it's really quick and he like I
00:19:25
Miraquickly said it at the beginning like it's kind of possible that he could forget it later on but if I said it like really calmly and really slowly and I kept talking about myself and then he forgets it again and he's just quickly
00:19:37
Emilyjust trying to get my number trying to get my socials then let's just like okay yeah anybody over here had that I never actually care but I do use it as a way to avoid talking to them so I'll be like
00:19:50
Brian Atlasoh you don't remember my name you must not care that's my way out it's not that you're so it's not so much that you're mad that he doesn't know the name you're just using is it a pretext to be like okay I can use this to yes okay because
00:20:02
Brian AtlasI definitely feel like I I when I was younger I had an encounter where probably a few encounters where the girl gets upset that I don't know her name if I'm like trying to get the number whatever and then sometimes she
00:20:15
Summerdoesn't she never even said the name to begin with it's like oh you forgot my answer I think it's worse when they call you a different name because I've had that like just recently happened like I got a voice memo yesterday I was like what up Skyler and I was like that's not
00:20:27
Brian Atlasthat is not my name so have you guys had that a guy said that another girl's yeah what about they just butcher what about this let's say you've been dating a guy for three
00:20:38
Brian Atlasmonths three months right and while you guys are hooking up he says another girl's name is it a wrap or yeah
00:20:49
Brian Atlashe's like okay you guys are making out whatever and then he's like oh Gertrude
00:21:03
Priyahow many have you met okay I've never even met someone yeah
00:21:18
Brian Atlasum so but has anybody have you ever hooked up with a guy and he said another girl's name no no no never no no okay all right okay but it would be a done done so
00:21:29
Mirathree months three months in what if he apologize after he's like oh whoops I mean no my bad okay especially Gertrude like yeah that's a
00:21:39
Brian Atlasrough name gotcha okay so uh single never had a boyfriend yeah um you had a Summer Fling yeah but I I think I recall you were you were gonna come actually next week with your friend Tiffany yes
00:21:52
Jilland you had to actually provided some pre-show information to us and if I recall um you're not really looking for anything casual right now though is that yeah no I just think going into college like the next big chapter of my life I
00:22:04
Jilldon't want to be looking for something if it's not something that's going to be taken seriously like I don't want to do the casual dating I want to look for something that's going to last well you you're more so on I don't want to call
00:22:16
Brian Atlasit extreme but you're more so on the very very opposite end of that if I understand correctly you're you're waiting until marriage is that correct yeah I would say for sure and so but you haven't like the Summer
00:22:28
Brian AtlasFling that wasn't no I think it was definitely more was that no no no okay so you're legit like waiting until marriage yeah okay anybody else here just waiting till marriage or
00:22:45
Brian Atlasget the possibility the way things are going now yeah yeah honestly same I just not things aren't going well oh wow okay we got we gotta get into that things not going well let me write that down not
00:22:58
Brian Atlasgoing okay um it's not going well and is it for do you are you religious yes do you consider yourself more conservative for sure
00:23:07
Miragotcha and are you a Christian Christian gotcha okay okay got it what about you okay mine's kind of complicated right now I'm I'm going through something
00:23:20
Miracalled like an area code dating so it's like if you're in the same area code you're like really together and like you're like full-on dating but since I'm going to college and then the guy that I'm talking to is living in Arizona
00:23:32
Miragoing to flight school it's kind of just hard especially going since I'm going into UCSB joining a sorority and he's going to be busy at school all the time so we can't really like talk on like a daily basis right I'm going down for
00:23:45
MiraThanksgiving so I'll see how that goes but like right now it's like I'm allowed to go see other people not really date other people but just like casually like parties and stuff like that like who
00:23:55
Miraknows wait did you said you're allowed yeah she just won't tell him that's pretty much what that not allowed
00:24:08
Miraallowed we've already kind of accepted the fact that we're gonna be going and seeing other people and going to parties without each other and like at the beginning of a relationship I said I
00:24:18
Miradidn't want to date in college and he really really wanted to stay together so I I gave that as an ultimatum I was like if you really want to stay together
00:24:28
Mirathen you have to let me like go explore other options while also like still having you and like I can decide for myself and stuff so would you say he was more into you than you were into him no
00:24:41
Brian AtlasI was definitely still into him a lot but it was just I I wasn't ready to do like I want to go into college with a kind of
00:24:49
Brian Atlasnot totally solidified long distance relationship but but I mean it sounded like you kind of wanted more so hey let's kind of keep things a little bit
00:25:00
Miraopen yeah and he was wanted to well he lock it in okay here's the hard part I'm like his first girlfriend
00:25:11
Miralike ever I've had a boyfriend for two years like a cup like a year before I met him so I've had a relationship before but he's never had a girlfriend before until he met me and we had only
00:25:21
Mirabeen dating for like three four months so it wasn't even like super serious so I was just like like I don't really know what to do and I couldn't just say like
00:25:31
Mirastraight up no don't talk to me I'm gonna ghost you like she's doing a little closer okay yeah but I just like couldn't just straight up just ghost him so that was like my
00:25:42
Brian Atlaseasiest to play okay so you will be dating other people though not dating not dating but like you're gonna go out and party and yeah I don't I don't know if I'm gonna go hook
00:25:55
Miraup with other people or even like make out with other people I'm just gonna see how it goes and then like later on if I do feel like actually going and dating other people and seeing other people then that's what
00:26:08
MiraI'm gonna talk to him and be like I want to go do this I'm so sorry like I don't want to be able to hurt him in a way that's gonna hurt him and you said uh where are you from originally I'm from Washington and he's in Arizona were you
00:26:21
Brian Atlasboth in Washington yeah and then he went to flight school in Arizona yeah you came here to Santa Barbara to go to UCSB okay um what's his name first name can you um
00:26:36
Summerhis name's true true it sounds like a Kardashian name oh it isn't that's why I I need to I need to
00:26:48
Brian Atlassay something to true true if you're watching I'm addressing this to you stop it get some help no true it's over true it's over it's not over she's at the number one party school in the United
00:27:00
Brian AtlasStates I'm sorry true you can't do long distance okay but I'm sorry I didn't mean to sabotage her your buddy long distance not really solidified
00:27:11
Mirarelationship I mean I'm going down to visit him in November oh really yeah I don't recommend okay
00:27:22
TTS Readerladies want to be valuable drop out of college and be with a man be feminine support him and don't get fat Pico do you think anyone aged 37 should
00:27:34
TTS Readerspeak to these lovely teenagers because I have a 19 years slash show as of 38 years show Kiko do you want to answer his second question there
00:27:46
Kikoum I mean all I see from that is if I'm reading it correctly that you were victim of teen pregnancy I'm so sorry about that but um I hope you're doing well um I hope yeah that you
00:28:10
Kikoas a girlfriend or as a that's that's the part you know I don't think they could I'm hoping he finished his education but it's looking like maybe
00:28:19
Brian Atlashaving a kid early on affected his okay ability to type so okay there you have it um do any of you want to take him up on his advice to drop out of college not my words don't shoot the messenger
00:28:31
Brian Atlasthat's what he's saying give that advice to your daughter or your kid not us well there you have it while we have a chat here we have puffy Vegas I have 65 million views on YouTube channel I've
00:28:43
Brian Atlasinterviewed over 1500 girls I would like to come this show this show in viewed yeah he is you'll see a lot she's puppy babies
00:28:57
PriyaYo puffy good to see you in the chat man it's been a couple weeks uh thank you man appreciate it so um grammarly again has free free options we've talked about it before or you can
00:29:09
Emilyjust like open up word doc and do some yeah grammar questions yeah get some spell check nice to meet you puffy yeah he's he's um interesting he's he's a good guy okay
00:29:21
Brian Atlashe's a lot of things to tell us usually so uh so going back to you you've got this guy in Arizona it's I was thinking about it now it's kind of just like open dating oh yeah hold on the story's changing no
00:29:34
Mirathat's what I said before like he's allowed to go see other people I'm allowed to go see other people does he know that he's allowed to go see people no we talked about this like a while for like a month before I left for college so
00:29:46
Miralike so it's kind of a it's basically an open relationship yeah it's basically like an open relationship no I am going to tell him it's just like
00:29:57
MiraI I am gonna tell him I am going to tell him I have he knows now if he's watching I know he knows now I am going to tell you now I am going to tell him but it's just like I haven't gone with anyone yet
00:30:15
Brian Atlasit's another relationship so maybe just some context for the viewers because we have a lot of people who are in different parts of California different parts of the US even uh outside the country uh so UCSB is a four-year
00:30:27
Brian AtlasUniversity here in Santa Barbara California it's enrollment is what 20 000 undergrad I think 20 25 000 undergrad uh it was classes just started this week correct yeah it starts on
00:30:40
Brian AtlasThursday oh it hasn't started yeah okay so it's uh it was move-in weekend for like everyone coming back so it starts Thursday okay got it got it um so and when did you just arrive you arrived uh I arrived like three days ago
00:30:53
Brian Atlasthree days ago Okay so not yet but the weekends come okay uh so and you said you're in a sorority correct I'm gonna be joined I'm
00:31:05
Miranot rushing I'm not rushing fall semester but I'm gonna rest spring semester okay so anybody here in a sorority or planning to join a sorority I'm rushing this semester too this semester recorder yeah I'm rushing as
00:31:17
Brian Atlaswell this quarter okay I'm also Russian okay anybody else were you in the sorority at one point Kiko no you're not a fan of sororities
00:31:29
Summerum it just doesn't have anything that entices me oh okay all right well there you go all right so uh what about you okay so mine's kind of similar kind of
00:31:40
Summernot but he goes to college and he plays football so he's kind of been like there throughout the summer for camp and everything so we were together pretty much all of the summer since like after
00:31:51
Summerprom and then once College came around we kind of started doing long distance and then it kind of got complicated he came back and then basically when he went back again I kind of ghosted him
00:32:02
Summerbut it was like Mutual because he like turned off his location and started acting you know I think he wants to like live the college experience but then I just got like the CU at Thanksgiving
00:32:11
Summerbreak text like a week ago before I came so I think you know he's trying to come back but we'll see um knowing me I'll probably fold because I have a really bad like commitment
00:32:24
Summerissues so like I've been in a lot of situationships that like this one like lasted like eight to nine months but I never have like felt the urge to like be like oh like make us like because we've been exclusive just like not titled
00:32:36
Summerboyfriend girlfriend yeah but for with him it kind of was different like we wanted to be boyfriend girlfriend but it was just really bad timing so we'll see how it goes when we you know meet each other again Thanksgiving break I don't
00:32:48
Kikoknow if that's our Thanksgiving break I don't know if I'm going back but we'll see we'll see okay I know you're letting him run around at College doing whatever he wants to do and he's texting you early enough so he
00:33:01
Kikohas enough time to know if he's gonna be able to hang out with you over Thanksgiving break or if he should line somebody else up to have over Thanksgiving yeah I know because he can't even spend a nanosecond volume second yeah I sound really delusional
00:33:12
Kikoright now but at the same time you just sound like you are yeah letting him walk all over you yeah no no no well it was like
00:33:27
Kikowhy if we're not dating anymore and we're doing our own thing we're turning off locations why are we even spending our time home our valuable time home that we don't have rekindled it was kind
00:33:38
Summerof useful a little bit I was just like I think I was more affected by it but he was like he's kind of like he's really it was really cringy of him he has like a few Tick Tock followers he got famous
00:33:50
Summerover like covet or something so he posted a tick tock and he's like when you meet the one and then you leave for college in two days and I was like delete this this shit's embarrassing like I like if you're if you're gonna like if you're gonna complain and turn
00:34:02
Brian Atlasoff your location you should not be posting this so I'm kind of like you know so yeah that's where I'm at he uh how far you don't have to say what university it goes to but you said he's playing Colorado oh yeah he's in
00:34:15
SummerColorado yeah he plays football first and last name name drop right now is it the party school that he's going to um not really actually I don't know
00:34:26
Brian AtlasColorado State one is he playing D1 football Colorado state is that D1 is that division one football player going off to college in another state
00:34:37
Summerthat's yeah well I mean you you guys aren't exclusive right I mean well we caught we were like this summer pretty much um yeah it started off like we had
00:34:50
Summermutual friends so then we started you know hanging out and it was also different because his family lives in another state and he would have like an apartment by himself so it was really easy to hang out and we kind of spent
00:35:01
Brian Atlaslike a lot of time this summer together so it was just you know yeah I mean athletes different College yeah even
00:35:12
Summersame College even same College probably not going to be exclusive yeah it's probably going to play the field but like Z1 babies what position does he play he's a
00:35:22
Summerdefensive back oh so but I don't know probably on the bench so okay all right so it sucked what do you would you call that complicated then
00:35:33
Summeryeah complicated but I'm like we'll see I feel like being here I'm already like leaving it in the past so hopefully it stays there okay got it what about you
00:35:45
HannahI'm in a relationship we've been together for about a year and we're doing long distance we just started long distance
00:35:53
Brian Atlaswas he you go to UCSB right yeah was he previously going here or no he goes to Cal Poly so it's more like medium distance Yeah medium distance
00:36:03
Hannahrelationship yeah and but you said it just became long distance because we both just moved we both lived in our hometown and we both just went to college okay oh were you going to a cc before
00:36:17
Hannahthat yeah we were both at the community college and then now we're both going away to college long distance yeah okay do you think it's gonna work out or yeah he's like my husband
00:36:29
Katieokay all right good times good times what about you I've been single for 18 years I'm 18 by the way
00:36:37
Brian Atlaswell I hope you were single for the yeah like you're not gonna be dating for like what the first ten out the womb like I don't know when dude I
00:36:49
Kikoknow some people who are real serious in kindergarten
00:37:01
Brian Atlasoh you know what I might have been in like a first grade wedding I should probably call this guy I should probably call this guy up let him know you probably should you
00:37:13
Brian Atlasprobably you should see what he's up to um so okay single what about maybe was there Summer Fling or anything this past summer there was never a Summer Fling
00:37:23
Katiejunior year I really liked a guy and he I found out at the end that he was he's been leading me on for like six months but like number ones on Snapchat for
00:37:34
Katieover two months like snapping really late into the night and then um I hung out with a friend who goes to a different school and I found out he was dating a girl the grade below us from that school
00:37:46
Brian Atlasyeah that was that that went really well for me wait you said he was leading you on is that what you said for six months yeah how so were you were you guys actually dating or just we were never
00:37:57
Katiedating just like we would text all the time like snapping all the time yeah just like you never met in person no no we went to the same school we had
00:38:09
Katieclasses together we hung out during school okay did he never post his girlfriend or anything oh apparently like he had a go well apparently like he say that
00:38:20
Katieum his girlfriend his girlfriend um had a guy I had a boyfriend and I found out like like
00:38:33
Katieand then um yeah sorry um I found out that like this girl broke up with the boyfriend and then like immediately started dating
00:38:44
Katiethe guy I liked so maybe it was a homewrecker situation I'm not really sure I don't really know what happened behind the scenes but I just know that he
00:38:55
Brian Atlasbasically kind of like stopped talking to me you're super single Super Single yeah and then I liked a guy this past year over there yeah and then I liked a guy
00:39:06
Katiethis past year and um oh I don't know he was that was that was my bad sure okay he was
00:39:16
Brian Atlasshouldn't have liked him is All I'm gonna say okay uh juice right yes juice before I have you come in since most of y'all go to UCS oh my wait well you go to ucsb2 Kiko oh you transferred
00:39:30
Brian Atlasokay um you guys have all some of you are second years or no are all of you is this your first year at UCSB it's just not ours yeah you've been here
00:39:41
Emilyand then you've been a fourth year yeah okay so what do you think about the guys at Isla Vista ucsv absolutely terrible do not recommend ditto
00:39:54
Brian Atlasso far what it's been a couple days for some of you the guys that are hot know they're hot and that's the bad part yep yeah that's kind of deep I feel like we should go inside well like when they know they're
00:40:07
Katieattractive they're cocky about it so like if you like try to go up and talk to them they like they know why you're going up to talk to them and they're like they're over cocky let me ask you so you've done this though like this
00:40:19
Katieweekend to the party right not at a party but like I saw like I saw a cute guy and like walked up to him okay and you said he knows what you want what do you feel like like going up and like saying like hi like asking for like a
00:40:32
KatieSnapchat or just like introducing yourself and he's like he's very aware of his appearance I would say so he like
00:40:40
Katieknows that he's hot and is like over confident about it okay
00:40:50
Brian AtlasI'm getting stared down so okay uh I mean does that Echo for any of you too or I mean you guys don't approach come on be honest you guys aren't approached
00:41:02
EmilyI only like guys who like me so I do not approach okay I have a type and I haven't really you haven't seen what's your diet
00:41:11
Summerfootball players of course D1 for early basketball oh basketball oh okay yeah um yeah so so far but we did have like
00:41:23
Summerfreshmen are just trying to like knock on your door and like come into your dorm so we had to kind of kick people out of our dorm because we're just like okay guys we're gonna go can you like leave because they're just kind of weird
00:41:33
Mandybut um yeah so that's my experience so far I also feel like some of the guys here are a little bit like pushy like if you're more like like you're kind of maybe
00:41:47
Mandythinking about it you don't really know him and so you're like thinking about it but they get a little like at least I've noticed at a couple of the frats that I've been to that like if I'm like okay I'm feeling a little uncomfortable I don't see my friends
00:42:00
Mandyaround I kind of want to go they're like well where are you going do not trust me like that type of thing and it's more just like no no I don't know well it's like neutral before but now I definitely do some of these guys are hungry though because
00:42:15
Summerpeople on a scooter like an electric scooter like we were at our dorm and they were like oh we're going with you like just wait they try to hop onto our scooter and I'm like we already have two people on the scooter so we just zoomed
00:42:26
Summeraway like we're like no no thank you bye okay
00:42:32
Katieokay the guys that you want they're too the one guy that I walked up to the One Singular guy that you walked up to yeah yeah that that no no okay that's I'm gonna stop contact with men this is this
00:42:43
Brian Atlasis about where I'm working but did he reject you or just one he was just cocky he was just an he was an yeah most most guys I've ever come in contact
00:42:54
Brian Atlaswith our agree now here's the question again is it the men that you're chasing after that are the because because couldn't we also frame
00:43:06
Brian Atlaslike you said well the really hot guys they are kind of cocky and but what if you're shooting outside of your league because you said they're really hot right
00:43:18
Katielike not like really odd just just like slightly more than like I don't know average I mean like I feel like I've lowered my standards over the years
00:43:28
Brian Atlasbut like the bars on the ground but let me ask you aim treatment so
00:43:38
Brian Atlasit's what they're doing in terms of acting cocky or whatever I mean do you also treat the men that you turned down in that same way guys don't really come up to me I don't
00:43:51
Brian Atlasreally get to that others is anybody here on any dating apps hinge Bumble no okay you used to be your butt it wasn't my thing what's it called um Christian Mingle Farmers Only I got
00:44:02
Mirabanned from Tinder why um it wasn't anything bad I was trying me and my best friend from home tried using the same exact Tinder app but then
00:44:12
Mirashe also got banned so because she as a profile picture she put a photo of her at like four years old with like a black eye and apparently you're not
00:44:22
Miraallowed to do that on Tinder so yeah so um what it was just as a joke it was literally just as a joke because she tried getting Tinder as a joke like in
00:44:32
Brian Atlasjunior year sophomore year that way that way more and more and more nope no no no like screwed it so it's basically yeah
00:44:42
Mirayeah there you go okay straighten it there we go all right but then we both tried using the same Tinder account and we got banned So Good Times yeah all right we're gonna continue with the
00:44:54
Grace (Juice)relationship status uh juice what about you well I'm single right now I've had like two relationships and like several situationships I've been single for I think like for
00:45:06
Grace (Juice)two years now and yeah like I have no situationship or nothing going on right now yeah that's about it okay
00:45:17
Brian Atlasso you said you've been single for two years was it two years yeah two years and then what was your longest relationship sorry uh that one for two years too two years okay got it
00:45:29
PriyaPriya what about you um I am in a relationship it's been about roughly a month okay longest longest relationship was about
00:45:40
Brian Atlasfive months five months okay cool got it all right uh let me just see if we haven't eaten no I don't think we have any chats so there was a couple things here that I wrote down I want to just go over um
00:45:51
Brian AtlasI know some of you are fairly new to the area um those of you who maybe have a bit more experience with this and maybe some of those of you who are new you've already encountered uh so here in Santa Barbara gentleman
00:46:04
Brian Atlasthere's Santa Barbara City College and UCSB sbcc is a two-year uh junior college ucsb's four-year University right um do you notice a difference between
00:46:15
Brian Atlasguys that go to Santa Barbara City College versus UCSB do you have is one cohort hotter is one stupider
00:46:26
Emilywhat what's your take there are guys from the community college that pretend to go to UCSB if that has happened to me
00:46:36
EmilyI've had a guy fully basically make up his identity to be a UCSB student I met him at UCSB we hung
00:46:46
Emilyout only on ucsb's campus and after a while of hanging out he told me he actually didn't go there oh yeah
00:46:56
Emilyif you're gonna lie you kind of just gotta keep it going yeah so I got that I have to tell you something tag so I was like oh what is
00:47:07
Emilythis and that was not what I was expecting but okay did you stop seeing him after that yes I did because he had no classes at my school or anything well here's the real question had he just
00:47:19
Brian Atlasbeen up front and told you that he went to svcc would that have been a disqualifying thing where you wouldn't have wanted to date him I wasn't actually interested in him at
00:47:30
Emilyall so his school status was irrelevant he was just like a guy I met at a campus event and we started being friends because we would go to the campus events
00:47:41
Emilytogether but he didn't attend the school so I don't know why he was there um wait so so I was interested in him as
00:47:50
Emilya school friend but did he ever did he tell you that he went to UC UCSB yes he was wearing the merch he told me where he lived on his University Housing yeah
00:48:02
Brian Atlaswhat if he didn't even go to CC and he actually was like 27. he's like pretending to be a student um wait so he but what was the context in which you
00:48:13
Emilyguys first met we met at a csb event on the first week of school the party or it was like a tour of the campus
00:48:24
Emilythis went on a tour and it was not only that but with the merch on yes and you had to transfer what was his name
00:48:35
Kikoanything for the girls it was his name was Kiko once doubt him yeah a similar thing happened to my friends out here like there was a guy that was like always around and said he went to UCSB
00:48:47
Emilybut like turned out he was really like like 27 28 and like and then you had to be use your school account to register and everything so I was not sussed out
00:48:58
Emilyat all I fully was like yes he goes to UCSB and then there was like secret little lies that I thought back to like I was like oh let me see your schedule and he's like oh actually my phone is
00:49:10
Brian Atlasdying um like he would say all these random things and I'm like okay that shit's crazy okay so um but so when he first started talking
00:49:22
Brian Atlasto you was it was it was it seemed like the undertones were romantic or was he just pursuing a friendship guys I I just don't read into guy's
00:49:34
Emilyintentions because I never take them seriously I knew that I was only pursuing a friendship with him so I kept it at a friendship level what he was thinking I have no idea well how does
00:49:45
Emilythe first interaction go is it like I introduced myself at the campus event oh you approached him well we like introduced ourselves and there was only a small amount of us there so we just
00:49:57
Emilyautomatically started talking because we were all at the same event and then um he asked what I was doing afterwards and I said oh I'm going to this other
00:50:08
Emilycampus event and he said oh no way me too let's go together and I was like okay and then
00:50:19
Emilygo ahead yeah that was how we met and then the next day he's like oh what event are you going to today I'm like oh this one he's like me too you were secretly inviting him the whole time I'm
00:50:31
Brian Atlaslike telling him the school's itinerary basically and he's like tagging along and I'm thinking nothing okay so this but this entire time does it does it occur to you that he is like interested
00:50:42
Brian Atlasin you beyond just friendship like news flash honestly if a guy's talking to you like there's a 99 chance that he's interested in you okay I
00:50:52
Grace (Juice)believe in boy and girl friendships well that's kind of brings me to where I was going do you think men and women can be friends it depends for sure I think yes yeah I think women wants to be friends with men
00:51:06
Grace (Juice)but I don't think men want to be friends with women that much like yeah I think that on my experience I I think women can be look and
00:51:16
Summerobviously there's exceptions um but I do think generally speaking women can be friends with men but I don't think men can be friends with women well you know those like tick tocks people make about like that one friend
00:51:28
Summergroup from high school that kind of all got with each other yep unfortunately that was probably mine but it was like there was like some guys that like it was I've known since like birth almost like our parents were best friends so
00:51:41
Summerlike him like in particular like is like brother so if they're like as close to you as like you grew up to them their family friends like brother I feel like that is like the instance where like friends yes because I don't think I've
00:51:52
Summerever liked this guy or he's never liked me so and I'm pretty much positive about that but like other than that like my friend group was pretty intertwined
00:52:02
Brian Atlaseveryone got with each other who just show of hands who who here at the stable currently has a male friend that's is single
00:52:16
Brian Atlasokay yes yes um do you have his number yes yes do you have your cell phones on you yeah so
00:52:27
Brian Atlasare they really your friends who knows here's how we find out assuming they don't know you're on they're watching the show right now why don't you send them a little text maybe like a winky face what are you doing tonight
00:52:39
Brian Atlascome over Netflix and chill let's see if they're really friends right because I mean my whole thing is is here's here's what I think right if the guy
00:52:51
Brian Atlasif given the opportunity would sleep with you that's not really a friend I think now I know some of you are is everyone single pretty much I'm in a
00:53:01
Hannahrelationship and all my guy friends like um they respect my relationship and then all my boyfriend's girlfriends respect ourselves so okay who's texting here
00:53:12
Brian Atlaslet's get some text thrown out think of some male friends they have to be single though because obviously if they're in a relationship that's a bigger ask although it's a does occur to me that even if they are in a relationship they might be inclined to have sex with
00:53:24
Brian Atlasyou've given the opportunity what are we texting them like what if they're friends let us devise the perfect message so it can't be too ambiguous because it needs to be somewhat clear that you're
00:53:35
Brian Atlasromantically or otherwise interested so brainstorm session any thoughts what's the message hi all right it can't be too Direct
00:53:48
Priyayeah because because are they here are they not here no well they're my girlfriends are in town yeah just and then but if I say want to hang out then obviously they're gonna say yes because they're my friend you could well
00:53:59
Brian Atlasnot yeah it's got to be more than just a platonic hangout it's got to be not what [Laughter]
00:54:09
Brian Atlaslet's ask the chat Nick let's pull up the chat chat what is the perfect message that these girls can send to one of their male friends to attempt to
00:54:19
Priyasolicit to see if they are DTF what is the message okay I've really liked or I've liked you for a really long time I'm coming to visit X like X date
00:54:31
Brian Atlascan we can we see then I don't think I can do that because they'll be really hurt because I need to sabotage your relationship there's plenty of people you know what is it seven billion eight billion people eight billion yeah you
00:54:43
Brian Atlascan make more friends it's good it's good um I think yeah don't joke be direct I would just say something
00:54:53
Brian Atlasnot gonna lie you guys have no game I had a dream last night want to hook up um maybe you could be like just what if it's kind of almost
00:55:05
Brian Atlasconfession angle like Hey listen I just wanted to let you know I've had a crush
00:55:14
Brian AtlasI feel the same let's maybe when we're to get in town together again we can um do it wait did you send one out did you
00:55:26
Mirasend one out I can send one I just saw oh my God three days ago though like if I randomly just sent this message
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KatieI have two really close guy friends neither of them would buy it because well I mean one of them I've known just do it right your dreams come true listen to Shia LaBeouf guys do it just do it
00:55:53
Summerhe's passionate about this I mean one of them one of them's gay so that really he just would not work okay I come visit and stay with me I miss you
00:56:03
Summeris that good or dude hey come visit okay okay yeah that's good hey come visit and stay with me I miss you or should it be more forward that's pretty forward that's forward
00:56:17
Summerhow close was your friendship pretty close I mean he was the last person I saw before I left come visit but you said stay with me something like that but I said yeah two
00:56:29
Katiefriends one of them one of them is gay so he's yeah yeah although he's weird so who knows um let's try it out um and then and then the other one just wouldn't buy it like let's try it let's
00:56:41
Brian Atlastry Never Say Never he won't buy it we can try yeah just be like what's up DTF question mark it okay send it out can you send one out you got something for us what's up oh okay yes
00:57:00
EmilyI appreciate that are you saying you got one now did you get one out yeah I did you did I got one out are you sending it to someone who has never expressed
00:57:10
Emilyinterest to you because most of my guy friends yeah they started by expressing interest I turned them down so it became a friendship see that's another reason why they're not actually your friends
00:57:22
Brian Atlasbecause you friend zone them and then so now waiting they're waiting okay maybe if I go to the gym the long game okay I don't know if it started out romantic it's
00:57:36
Brian Atlasyou don't think that they can move past romantic feelings there it'll always be there like if you at some point in the future give them an opportunity and they're single like
00:57:48
Priyathey'll see but I also they're not gonna like oh hold on I really value our friendships I know I agree I agree with that but I don't think it necessarily is always a romantic thing I think that all
00:57:59
Priyaof my guy friends whether they're in a relationship or single have like a curiosity to potentially yeah either hook up or see me naked but I don't think it necessarily is like I want to