HEATED DEBATE With College Girls & RAGEQUIT KEEKO! | Dating Talk #104

Date: 2023-09-27

Duration: 4h 52m

Guests

Brian Atlas

MMandy (DT104)>

EEmily (DT104)>

SSummer (DT104)>

HHannah (DT104)>

KKatie (DT104)>

GGrace/Juice (DT104)>

PPriya (DT104)>

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00TTS Reader(audience)

SPEAKER_02Mandy(guest)

SPEAKER_03Priya(guest)

SPEAKER_04Summer(guest)

SPEAKER_05Mira(guest)

SPEAKER_06Grace (Juice)(guest)

SPEAKER_07Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_08Audio Clips(audience)

SPEAKER_09Hannah(guest)

SPEAKER_10Jill(guest)

SPEAKER_11Kiko(guest)

SPEAKER_12Emily(guest)

SPEAKER_13Mandy(guest)

SPEAKER_14Katie(guest)

Key Moments

IntroBrian opens the show explaining 16 flakes occurred across 72 hours. Lists flakers by name: Bianca, Cara, Tiffany, Isabella DeLuca, Claudia, Marina, Chloe, Josie, Samantha, Sarah, Cassidy, Briona, Brianna, Roxy, Taylor, Wendy, Christina. Credits Madison and Nick for doing a street walk to find 7 guests in 1 hour.

“welcome to the whatever dating Talk podcast... we had 16 people flake”

IntroGuests introduce themselves in order: Kiko (23, criminology student), Mandy (21, UCSB classics/art history), Emily (19, UCSB senior econ/comms), Jill (18, UCSB dance), Mira (18, UCSB biopsych), Summer (18, UCSB pre-stats/data science), Hannah (20, UCSB brain sciences), Katie (18, UCSB history), Grace/Juice (36, server, Costa Rica), Priya (22, ASU online, equestrian).

“without further Ado we're going to have the guests introduce themselves”

RelationshipKiko: in a relationship, 9 months. Longest past relationship 2 years.

“um I'm in a relationship and my longest relationship was like two years”

RelationshipMandy (SPEAKER_02): super single, 3-4 years. One relationship over 1 year (high school). Has never even talked to anyone since. No social media — made her first Snapchat account while waiting in the studio.

“um I'm super single I had I've been in one relationship it was over a year long”

RelationshipSummer describes open arrangement with True (in flight school in AZ, her first boyfriend, she is his first girlfriend). She set terms: both can see other people while in college. She is visiting him at Thanksgiving.

“I'm going to college and then the guy that I'm talking to is living in Arizona going to flight school”

Key MomentEmily reveals she has never had social media and made her first Snapchat while waiting outside the studio. She describes avoiding all dating because of how guys in the current culture act.

“oh yeah I had no social media right before um actually while I was waiting to come up to this studio I made a Snapchat”

RelationshipGrace/Juice: single 2 years, two relationships total (one 2 years). No current situationship.

“well I'm single right now I've had like two relationships and like several situationships”

Key MomentEmily (SPEAKER_12) confronted by Brian: "the guys that are hot know they're hot and that's the bad part." She describes approaching a guy during move-in weekend who was overconfident. Brian challenges whether she is shooting out of her league.

“the guys that are hot know they're hot and that's the bad part”

Key MomentMandy reveals a guy from SBCC (community college) fully impersonated a UCSB student — wore UCSB merch, met her at a campus event, registered her at UCSB events — for weeks before admitting he didn't attend.

“there are guys from the community college that pretend to go to UCSB”

Key MomentJill reveals she is a virgin waiting until marriage. Confirmed by Brian; she says she also believes in premarital cuddling but not sex.

“I'm single and I've never been in a relationship before... yeah I would say for sure [waiting until marriage]”

ControversyGrace/Juice reveals that a wealthy older friend (nearly 60) funded first-class trips to New York, Hawaii, Las Vegas (~9 trips), paid her rent twice, and gave a $14,000 check — without any sexual or romantic contact whatsoever. Brian does live math totaling the value.

“he gave me one time a check... fourteen thousand dollars”

Key MomentMandy (SPEAKER_02) reveals she was offered $5,000 by a Tinder hookup to sleep with him again. She declined, citing safety concerns (power dynamic shift when a man pays). He immediately blocked her. She later encountered him awkwardly at her workplace.

“he offered to pay me um to sleep with him... he was like five grand”

ControversyEmily makes the core argument: if all women raised their standards, men would be forced to change their behavior. Kiko counterargues: there will always be some women participating in hookup culture, so collective action won't work — instead find men who don't want hookup culture.

“if all girls raise their standards a little bit it will force the guys to have to change the way they act”

Key MomentRole-play segment: Brian pretends to be a woman; Summer plays a man hitting on him at a bar. Summer's approach involves asking about horses (equestrian major), which Brian plays along with.

“hey can I buy you a drink oh sure... what school do you go to... equestrian equestrian that's hello”

Key MomentJill plays a woman at Trader Joe's during role-play. Her responses are painfully awkward — she has never flirted. "Does Trader Joe's even have one?" Brian tries to coach her ("ask me what my major is") but she fails to follow through.

“like literally I've never done this I've never done this no I've never flirted with anybody”

ControversyKiko's rhetorical win moment: "You guys said women need to close their legs because they're sleeping with everyone. But then you say men can't get laid. Which one is it?" — the contradiction silences Brian briefly.

“women are sleeping with everybody don't know how to close their legs or men can't find anybody to sleep with”

ControversyKiko confronts red pill influencer consumption: cites Sneako being shocked when 12yo boys at a baseball game said "kill all women." Argues red pill content is radicalizing young men who lost social development years during COVID.

“these random kids run up to him in a baseball game and they're literally like 12 year old little boys and they're like yeah women all women we hate women like kill women kill all women”

QuoteEmily: "I think it's delusional to pretend like missandry is so prevalent and also even if it was super prevalent that it's equivalent to misogyny." Argues female man-haters are almost never physically dangerous whereas misogynistic men are.

“I also think it's delusional to pretend like missandry is so prevalent”

ControversyBrian argues patriarchy theory is a conspiracy theory that breeds contempt for men. Kiko and Emily argue mainstream feminism is first-wave equality, not radical. Brian challenges: "Has any feminist organization ever lobbied to equalize the draft?" Brian cites feminist terrorism (Andy Warhol shooting).

“if you start teaching women that they are oppressed and the person to blame is this other gender men”

Key MomentGrace/Juice says Andrew Tate content is better understood when watched in full. Mandy (SPEAKER_02) aggressively disagrees — says his videos asking about body counts are degrading. Brian offers to play Tate video. Discussion of whether viewing full context changes perception.

“if you really like go in and look at the videos of them speaking it will change your perception completely of them”

Key MomentBrian plays Fresh & Fit clip of Tate talking about emotional connection mattering more than sexual technique. Most guests (including Emily) endorse the clip's message. Kiko: "right message, wrong sponsor." Emily agrees Tate's diagnoses are often right but lifestyle prescriptions are wrong.

“sex sex this position that position don't you feel like you get to a point in your life with something more than that”

QuoteEmily on agreeing with Tate's emotional connection clip: "right message, wrong sponsor" — encapsulates her view of Andrew Tate throughout the episode.

“it's like right message wrong sponsor again like yeah”

Topics Discussed

Introductions & Backstory of Flakes

Brian explains that 16 people flaked in 72 hours before the show; 7 guests were recruited from the Santa Barbara streets 1 hour before. Guests introduce themselves: Kiko (co-host, 23, criminology), Mandy (21, classics/art history), Emily (19, econ/comms senior), Jill (18, dance), Mira (18, biopsych), Summer (18, pre-stats), Hannah (20, brain sciences), Katie (18, history), Grace/Juice (36, server, Costa Rica), Priya (22, ASU, equestrian).

Relationship Status Round

Each guest shares relationship status. Kiko: in relationship 9 months. Mandy: single 3-4 years, bisexual. Emily: super single, one year relationship 3+ years ago. Jill: single, never had relationship, summer fling only. Summer: open arrangement with True (AZ). Summer talks about D1 football player in Colorado she ghosted. Hannah: long-distance boyfriend at Cal Poly. Katie: single her whole life (18). Grace: single 2 years. Priya: new relationship (~1 month).

UCSB & College Hookup Culture

Discussion of UCSB's reputation as a party/hookup school. Guests debate whether women should close their legs / raise their standards. Emily argues that when some women accept low-effort hookup culture it forces others into a market with lower standards. Kiko pushes back: women with high standards should just seek men who don't want hookup culture rather than trying to change the pool. Girls discuss being approached at frats, pushy guys, and encounter with a man who faked being a UCSB student.

Sugar Daddies & Transactional Relationships

Brian asks about sugar daddy offers, fly-outs, and men offering money. Mandy: got "will fund your life" DMs but declined immediately. Summer: was offered $5,000 by a Tinder hookup to sleep with him again; declined. Grace: reveals a wealthy older friend (~60yo) funded first-class travel (New York, Hawaii, Las Vegas, 8-9 trips total), paid rent twice, gave a $14,000 check — all without any sexual contact.

Dating Apps & Body Count Discussion

Brian analyzes Bumble dynamic (women send "hey" then men carry conversation). Discussion of whether women controlling access to sex means they control relationships. Debate: are women with high body counts less desirable even for one-night stands? Brian argues men prefer lower body count even for casual sex. Mandy disagrees. Kiko: body count is relative to the man's. Long exchange about whether high-body-count women still provide relationship value.

Men's Access to Sex vs Women's

Can a mid-level man just go out and get laid? Kiko argues yes if he targets women comparable to him. Brian is skeptical. Role-play exercise: Brian pretends to be a woman; Summer plays the man hitting on her (horse topic). Jill plays a very awkward/unresponsive woman. Debate over whether men and women have comparable access to casual sex; Kiko argues men do accumulate bodies by targeting easy women rather than through skill.

Red Pill Content & Its Effects on Men

Discussion of Andrew Tate, Fresh & Fit, Sneako and their influence on young men. Kiko argues red pill content creates isolated, objectifying mindsets (cites Sneako at baseball game with 12yo boys saying "kill all women"). Priya agrees Tate's diagnoses are often correct but prescriptions are harmful. Emily defends some red pill content as raising awareness of male loneliness. Brian plays Andrew Tate "lonely men" video clip.

Feminism & Patriarchy Debate

Extended debate: is feminism about equality or women's advocacy? Is patriarchy theory accurate? Brian argues teaching women they are oppressed breeds contempt for men. Kiko and Emily argue mainstream feminism is first-wave (equality) not radical. Discussion of feminist studies requirements at UCSB, media portrayals of men, HR departments, circumcision as male oppression (Brian's example). Emily: missandry is much less dangerous than misogyny statistically. Brian cites Andy Warhol being shot.

Andrew Tate Video Reactions

Brian plays two Andrew Tate video clips: (1) Tate on male loneliness — touches on men who never get DMs or attention; all guests agree male loneliness is real. (2) Tate/Fresh & Fit on body count forehead branding — would 99% of problems be solved if women wore body counts on foreheads? Mixed responses. (3) Andrew Tate on sex being about emotional connection, not technique — almost all guests agree with this clip. Brian wraps show.

Transcript

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Priyadate that person type of urge from from the men from the men yeah so they hook up with you but they wouldn't yeah I don't necessarily think that they they they

Priyaare like in love with me or something of that sort let's see what this is well no I'm not saying they're in love yeah but you're saying from like a romantic dating standpoint

Katieyeah sexual yeah I wrote an answer what what's the answer so I I said if I was like hey I miss you come visit I don't know if that was forward enough but like he was like miss you too when am I supposed to go

Katiebut like we've been friends since we were like five so I don't I don't think it's romantic like in the slightest who knows uh here let's be a bit more direct

Kikosay something along the lines of I have a twin bed but it'll be a tight squeeze say something along the lines of

Brian Atlashmm what's like there's a moment where sometimes somebody will have this they'll reveal that they like you maybe you could say

Brian AtlasI don't know I've had to work up the courage to say this but I've I've started having feelings for you do you feel the same

Mandyor you can do the classic Man line uh hey can I ask you something wait that's the Man line that's a woman line no that's a woman when they're about to confess their feelings for you

Mandythat you've they've been a friend for a while hey can I tell you something can I ask you a question it always starts with that and it always ends the exact same

Brian Atlasawkward yeah so send him say say um I've had feelings for you do you feel the problem is he's known

Brian Atlasevery every guy I've liked in the past year well let's just see it let's just see any any responses from you guys over here no no okay we'll check back in on

Jillthat I did get a response oh I just got a response WTF what do you mean yeah what did you send oh I just said

Brian Atlaswant to hang tonight but like I've never hung out with him just him by himself 32f what do you mean yeah maybe do like what do you guys think about this she just sends back a winky face that's it

Kikodo it do it decent right yeah he'll get the hint yeah he'll definitely get the hit he's gonna hate me yeah let's see how that

Summergoes yeah you heard I got a response but it's also I know his mom really well like okay so like not in like a weird way but his mom really likes me so she said only if we sleep and he said only

Summerif we sleep in different beds because my mom said so

Brian Atlasyeah yeah that's perfect that's perfect what was your first message that you sent to him hey come visit and stay with me I miss you

Emilyis this the guy that you said is like your brother because okay I've had a guy literally that's a winky face I have the winky face throw it in there I'm in the process of typing like the

Kikoweek the days I'm free and that I was gonna send like oh the the room is like empty but he just asked if he was able to bring a friend so say um I was actually I was hoping it would be just you just it would just be

Brian Atlasthe two of us yeah [Music] I think that some dudes that might just go whoosh right over their head so you might he's kind of an airhead

Priyajust just say I was hoping it would just be the two of us together in this space

JillI got a second response let's hear it um he said what the hell does he know that you're a dancer

Brian Atlaswhat yeah he knows I'm a dancer she's flexible or something I don't know

Brian Atlasthis is like a marriage pitch it's a pitch hey want to get married wait question so can you be the Autumn

Brian Atlasto my Eve Oh no you're waiting for marriage is anybody else waiting for marriage you already asked possibly who said not sure

Brian Atlaswait so are you a virgin yes I am anybody else here anybody it's okay look I'm not a perfect

Kikoagain I have a body count of one huh

Brian AtlasMadison over here she Madison you want to talk be nice to Matt no I'm sorry Madison why don't you reveal so they're more comfortable actually talking about

Brian Atlasthis I'm not a virgin what definitely body count body count my body count is eight boom there you go folks all right it's uh so it's

Emilyanybody anyone want to share their body count well we can't do that but so we're gonna Circle back virgin virgin anymore I want to loosen that body count

Brian Atlasfor surgeon yeah okay cool well you still could be no no no there's no judgment no judgment here

Brian Atlasokay so we got three wait where was I going with this oh question for you guys do you believe in pre-marital cuddling is that a land

Katieyeah premarital cuddle yeah cuddles allowed okay what's that thing the soaking thing have you heard of that my

Brian Atlasfriend goes to BYU so that you have stories I've heard from like some angry Mormons have dm'd me and said it's actually a myth where's it where's

Priyathe wrong button Brian wait what do you mean thank you but maybe you could say pre-marital cuddling oh hold on donated

TTS Reader100 how dare you how that sounds like the locker Hall at an all-girls school BS no substance nonsense conversations taking

TTS ReaderSociety backwards and how does glasses think she has the right to a D1 athlete her plumber more like it maybe a barber on a good day plumber Barber what are

Kikoyour thoughts no I think I'll stick to the athletes I did Mike Davis with the roasts that's so backwards too it's backwards because like oh yeah D1 football player yeah okay maybe you can go to the league but the odds are very

Kikosmall and if she was with a plumber or someone else at least you would have money instead of just a stipend check so I don't know if that was really a roast there you have it there you have it um

Katieany responses from anybody I mean like he he's not he's it's going right over his head so apparently we're all hanging out as a group in like two weeks so he's he's not the plans now he doesn't buy him come back on in three years can you

Priyalet us know what happened can you say

Summerlike an eggplant Emoji or something like how's he gonna get it through his Millennial thing I got updated I have updated texts what's what's this so I said sucks only have one with a winky

Summerface he said get out of here nerd and I said I'm serious no but like for real he said I'll come up

Summerit might be definitive that could be is he friends no she doesn't have a boyfriend oh he said it but only if math can come too which is his friend but

Summerit's honestly yeah one time too man but yeah um it was like his birthday so we went out

Summerto like Red Robin or something and he got me roses but no but the thing was is he got mad because I got with a guy at a party like a few days later and then he kind of got

Brian Atlasreally mad at me so it's kind of like he likes you he does like this for sure yeah okay yeah she's like I know any any updates did you send a text no

Jillresponses anything I haven't sent something back oh what did he say again what the hell is he a Christian too winning Soul marriage he's a communist that's what he's oh [Music]

Brian Atlaswe'll have to fix that after the show I don't know how to fix it but um I don't know why it does that wasn't uh do you remember oh see now it's good I don't know uh how's the focus look is it okay

Jillokay um he's a communist I have no clue he's just really random I don't know much about him aren't you like conservative though yeah I don't like we we don't

Brian Atlasreally like I don't like him like that like we're just friends completely friends okay you're friends with communist how do you know he's a communist did he say does he wear like a

JillShea Guevara t-shirt all day I don't know I think he might be a troll but like I can't tell with him he just

Jillhe he is straight right I think so I'm pretty sure yeah I mean oh I can't accept that one time he did have a girlfriend during

Jillum like lockdown era from New Zealand and she kind of like broke his heart so he might have turned communist he had a girlfriend in another country yeah I think we might we think he might have

Brian Atlasbeen catfish how about cuddle question mark winky face okay cuddle question mark winky face

Brian Atlashe's not buying it like I'm I'm trying he's not giving me anything he's just he's he's confused word okay all right um let me see where we left off here I

Brian Atlasthink we got everybody's relationship status so let's see um was it you that said things are not going well is that you yeah yeah yeah it is it's so

Brian Atlasweird okay I don't know what's going on with the colors on the camera but um and not a fan of how guys act that would be me oh that was you yeah how do guys act

Emilyyeah they the thing about dating culture in general now I feel like it doesn't align with my expectations

Emilywhich is why I avoid it what are your expectations I'm a little bit traditional like I expect guys to ask me out on a proper date and I don't like

Emilyseeing multiple people at the same time I need them to be like directly express interest in me with their words and

Emilytheir actions and I feel like nowadays or around here I don't really know what's going on maybe just what I've encountered they like to

Emilylike talk to multiple people at once not take anyone seriously and that's just not what I'm looking for I gotta be honest your standards sound like the

Brian Atlasbare minimum again yeah not being met well are you you said they you want them to not be talking to a whole bunch of other girls right are you talking to other guys though like do you have a

Brian Atlasroster anybody here have a roster absolutely not or have a roster at one point come on let's be honest here so you guys some of you have had a roster looking at you consider a Ross

Brian Atlascurrently but come on Kiko you got game I know you're a player I know you got game Kiko okay I you were running circles around the dudes at UCSB all the

Brian AtlasFrat Boys Don't Look don't don't get me started about uh five sick okay it's a gap okay do I look like the person who would date actually kind of yes

TTS Readeryou kind of do did you I don't think so I could see you at the Frat party we'll party but hold on Mike Davis

TTS Readerdonated 100 Kiko don't speak unless spoken to you were doing pretty good until now Doc must have upped your Xanax you and glasses should be friends maybe share

TTS Readeryour nose job search oh yeah tonight's pack should make a podcast and call themselves The May Squad does anybody have a response to Mr Mike Davis he's the resident roaster here he likes to roast

Kikodon't be oh maybe you should take that advice you could save some money um and I my nose I was born with my nose and I don't even remember the other things you said because it was such like

Summerlacking substance what's wrong with your nose it looks fine he's implying that I got a nose job no this is my natural nose yeah well if you want to donate a hundred dollars you can donate to my nose job too if you want to complains

Brian Atlasokay where were we what we were talking about what if anyone's had a roster oh roster come on okay well what do we consider a roster

Brian AtlasI would say rosters when you are talking to or dating or sleeping with more than two people so you got like three guys in rotation

PriyaI'm surprised you even said two people you think that's two not enough to no I was excellent I was expecting you to say more than one person well

Brian Atlaswhen I think roster I think at least three yeah two disavow I disavow it but okay I'm glad I'd say three

Brian Atlasit's still not desirable for somebody to have at least in my view at least in terms of someone I'd want to pursue for them to be talking to uh multiple people but when I think roster I do think a bit

Priyamore so okay I'm glad we could clarify thank you yes of course so it's Elaine my dear

Brian Atlasanyone any rosters nope come on come on wait do you do you uh anybody here date women

MandyI have only dated one woman and it's the first time I've been dumped that's all I have to say about that why'd she dump you great question I don't know she pulled

Mandyit she did it was weird to be on the receiving end I'm not gonna lie wow it was awake got a taste of your own I know I deserved it you deserved it

Brian AtlasKiko you as far as my understanding you also have a inclination towards the ladies yeah but I mean I haven't dated a girl since high school and I'm 23 now so I

Brian Atlasdon't really well dated but what about

Grace (Juice)am I gonna do it I don't know with women have you you know what I mean I've never done that you've never done that [Laughter]

Brian Atlaslook at the voice crack over there when a woman and a woman love each other have you but you hooked up like in college right you'd have hookups with the ladies

Brian AtlasI've had previous I've had previous experience experience yeah that's all right anybody here ever took you know seen a pretty lady in thought I'd like her to

Grace (Juice)I hang out with I slept I slept with women but um I don't think I'm into women I realize that I'm not into women what was the moment that you realized

Brian Atlasthat like the specific moment was it was it in the the moment yeah well not specifically the moment I I

Grace (Juice)guess I was just you know having fun I thought I was really conservative until I came here and I think I'm not you know yeah

Brian Atlasoh can you hear me yeah we know it's good it's good okay all right so you're uh you're a waitress correct yeah um waitress is that like offensive

Brian Atlasnow because I'm a waitress I went to college it definitely shouldn't be it shouldn't be but I feel like I don't know it's like it server is just easier what was the thing with uh like stewardess

Kikobut now it's flight attendant do people still not saying stewardess is uh it's been it's been that's just that's just grasping at straws I think

Kikoyou could refer to it as either and no one would really I think I have seen the video before of like a lady being like all pissy because someone referred to her yeah but I mean

Brian Atlasall right show of hands who here's happy with their dating life

Grace (Juice)um I don't really even have one yeah I guess I like the attention of men yeah but I'm not dating yeah okay

Brian Atlasthank you okay wait where did we leave off I don't know where the roster okay nobody's had a roster I feel like that's a lie yeah I

Emilythink every every woman has a roster no actually no no I just feel like based on your stories so someone yeah I kind of agree with that I'm not gonna lie based on Whose stories

Emilythe ones about past dating experiences yeah you talking about me no no not like we've shared yeah Brian we know you have a roster

MandyI believe it

Brian Atlassilence let me see here hold on I got we're gonna react to a video I think actually you know what I think this is a good conversation for this table because uh well

Brian AtlasUSB party school um oh no actually okay we're saying not a fan of how guys act so you're saying well here I'm traditional in all these ways I want a guy to I don't want a guy at least this is what I understood

Brian Atlasum I feel like a lot of men in college probably want to just be like come over let's hook up yeah they don't want to do sort of the and I think but that is kind of how I think especially in college a

Brian Atlaslot of people maneuver it's not like let's go to a dinner date it's what you're doing later maybe it's even a Social Circle you're hanging out with a friend group let's go party together

Emilycome over but it's never like here let me actually plan a date let's meet up get some food anything like that yeah the commitment and effort is severely

Emilylacking also it's I feel like a big part of it is that there's so many girls at the school and a lot of girls are also into hookup

Emilyculture so I'm not um and I realize that a guy who would prefer that it'd be much easier for them

Emilyto just go for one of the girls who do accept that behavior then to try for me when I'm not giving in as easily those aren't the

Brian Atlasguys you want anyways though so they're kind of just I mean I think you're certainly spot on because she absolutely is because you're kind of put in the situation where if the standard that other that men have to meet is a lower

Brian Atlasthreshold a lower bar than what your standards are than what your expectations are then they're like they're like oh well I can go hook up with Becky yeah and I don't have to put in

Emilythe work and we can just hook up quick she'll hook up with me on the first like yeah immediately all girls raise their standards a little bit it will force the guys to have to

Emilychange the way they act over changing which girl they pursue for girls

Brian Atlasit's true exactly it's true so I guess what what should women do then what what are the women raise their standards yes

Mandyclose their legs you deserve it yeah do you have a response to her not not that specifically I do disagree but I don't really want to get into that I want to respond you can get into it

MandyI want to respond to that first um I just wanted to ask more like question clarification when you say women should raise your their standards I agree about that but do you think that

Mandyit means if women are participating in hooking hooking uh up culture at all that means they immediately have low standards or can you still like participate in this hooking up culture

Emilythat we have in UCSB and have higher standards for your hookups I think girls can participate if they would like that but from experience and talking to a lot

Emilyof girls like my friends are around here they don't actually like how it goes that's just all that they're being offered so they accept that and I think

Emilyif they stick to like their requirements that they would actually feel good about receiving

Emilyfrom men um that would like help dating in general yeah yeah I agree with that what was it okay you wanted to go to war with people

Mandyclose your close your legs like I'm I know that some of us at this table have like our virgins we've had like what when you say close your legs

Mandylike what are you referring to specifically do not partake in hookup culture okay um I personally don't judge people who partake in hookup culture I don't really have time for it so I don't really care

Mandyto but like live your life we're in college We're Young have your fun this is literally the time you're single clearly the guys here don't really care for these good long-term relationships

Mandyat least I haven't found one that's interested in that and if you want to fulfill yourself in a certain way and maybe you are lowering your standards but I think trying to get fulfillment

Priyafor yourself isn't like this thing that should be shamed really I'm not trying to shame anybody personally but like to what she was saying how men are not going to give her the time of day

Priyabecause she has standards for what she wants out of a romantic or sexual relationship and if the next girl is about to give it up with no requirements whatsoever

Priyathey're always going to go for the second for the second girl men want sex they want sex the relationship comes after that's like their innate Primal desires is sex and if you're gonna give

Kikothat to them they're gonna they're gonna like want to work but there's not men now who don't partake in hookup culture so it's like if that's not your thing then go find those men because it's like yo if

Kikowe as a woman try to like lower um how like hook up culture or whatever it's still never going to be a hundred percent so those men who want to find those easy women will still always be

Kikoable to find that second option so it's like instead like just find someone who wouldn't partake in hookup culture anyways because if they if they are going to sleep with anyone given the option just if you lower that option for

Priyathem they're still going to find a way to do it but if you significantly lower the amount that are in that pool that will like partake in the women that will partake in hook up culture you're gonna make it significantly more difficult for

Kikothose men to find women to partake in it with them so they're gonna have to yeah I'm saying though like realistically though it'll never be a hundred percent will never even be probably over 80 percent so it's like instead I don't think anyone should lower their

Kikostandards like earlier when you're talking about like oh I keep getting disappointed for men I'm gonna lower my standards no don't do that keep making your standard tire because there is going to be a man out there that fits those standards absolutely but don't try to if we all as women like try to yeah

Kikolike that's lower the standards like I do think that there I do see why people say that because I don't like how it's going we're like spreading your legs is seen as a empowerment move I don't like that and I see how that's like combating

Kikoit but if you're a woman who likes look up culture be a part of that hookup culture and go for the you know skew of men who do too but yeah don't think that you are empowering Yourself by hooking yeah absolutely I mean I see that point but yeah we all

Priyahave free bodily autonomy we can do pretty much whatever we want it's a free country but at the same time I don't think it's something to glorify or to encourage and like she was saying how her friends that want to have high

Priyastandards but then given to the pressure because they can't find men that want like serious relationships I think that's also a product of of that I don't

Mandydisagree but I think that since UCSB is known as a party school don't you think it brings those type of men that are specifically looking for hookup and party culture as opposed to

Mandyrelationships so it's kind of hard to say that this applies everywhere that all men are wanting to engage in hook up culture and because women are also engaging in hookup culture you're like

Mandytaking away like these possibly good men who might settle down in a relationship I think it's hard to say that here in UC Santa Barbara because the guys came here for that so it's like we've got this

Mandyenvironment of where most of the guys here are participating in hookup culture and the woman also came here to party so we're also partaking in it like so it's

Priyakind of hard to generalize based on our area really and that's kind of I feel like some other girls that do go to UCSB might want to rebuttal that I mean I don't so I can't speak on it but it seems like a few of you don't really

Kikowant to partake in parties have only been here for three days Oh Yeah from my experience it is true like a lot of majority even like I didn't know it was a party school when I first came here but like a lot of my friends who I met

Kikowhen I came here were like yeah like I heard about everything that I saw online and like I knew it was gonna be some party and it was going to be easy access to certain things so I would say

Kikoin like compared to a lot of four-year institutions there is an influx of men like that here sure no I know plenty of people that go to party schools for that like for that reason but I mean I feel

Summerlike UCSB is definitely like more commonly known for hookup culture and for partying so I feel like you kind of know what you're getting yourself into coming here as like everyone that I've talked to and I've known that's kind of

Summerlike the common sense like UCSB is known for that so I feel like definitely if you're looking for like your husband I mean maybe when you're like older like I'm only a first year so if you're like a third or fourth year they're probably matured by then and you'll probably find

Summerlike that guy but I feel like first year trying to find like the guy you're going to get married to or like serious relationship is not the best to come here if you're trying to do that right off the bat I'll say your odds are low

Kikoit happens it happens but there's just also so much in play when you're first moving here like in a new area there's so much going on and um even like the I seen I had a lot of friends who were on

Kikotheir third fourth year had met someone freshman year started dating lasted all those years and then they still like each other but they just broke up because they realized they had spent four years of college in a relationship and hadn't done anything so it's like I

Priyawould wait there's you have the rest of your life to be in a relationship yeah like you don't need to run I'm not saying that especially like freshmen's Juniors sophomores there's no reason to jump into a relationship if

Priyayou don't feel like you are mentally and like a maturity level slipped off your feet yeah yeah exactly single yeah but I don't think it's a good thing to

Priyaencourage young women to partake in hook up culture because you are not adding value to yourself whatsoever I mean again like you have free bodily autonomy you can do it whatever you please but I don't think there's going to be any

Emilyvalue added to your life by partaking in hookup culture I agree I came to UCSB for the education and I was aware of the

Emilylifestyle that most people engage in and I knew that I didn't like that so I just chose not to engage and then back to the

Emilypoint about shaming girls for trying to find fulfillment um in hookups I'm

EmilyI don't think a lot of girls who do engage in hookup culture are truly fulfilled by it I think they just want to

Emilylike in some truth have a relationship with guys and that's what the guys are offering so they just go with it but truly or at least I personally have not

Emilymet a girl who has been happy with their exactly like situationship hookup

Kikoguy without commitment or respect or effort I relate to that for sure personally but there's like why do men have sex right to have sex because they

Kikowant to have sex I do agree with most women it is different we do want a more um playtime like it has to be more attached to it but there is women out there I think the women who were starting the empowerment

Kikoof spreading her legs movement some of them have the wrong state is that the official name the spread of your legs some of them might have had the wrong intention some of them might have had the wrong intention with it but I don't

Kikothink majority of them were trying to tell women like hey do this and you'll feel so much better about your life I think they were trying to say it first yeah men like to have sex to have sex right and there's women who like to have sex to have sex and they were just

Kikotrying to say hey there we exist too don't shame us but I don't think the message should have been everyone if you do you know have sex to get this hole filled in your heart because that's yeah that's not going to work so if you're trying to do that that's not

Kikogoing to work but yeah don't forget that there's women out there who just like to have sex too with nothing attached to it yeah then they become less attractive to men but I don't think the woman care what how attractive they are that's fine

Kikothat's fine but if and also it's just the damage that you're going to be doing to yourself too that's the thing though would you say that to a man who sleeps around a lot no no to a lesser degree I don't think men

Kikoshould be super promiscuous either I I don't there's some differences good for everyone but we are inside everyone's brains so we can't tell how sexual advances and intimacy affects them some people can experience something like

Brian Atlasthat and not feel anything I'm not that's a person I'm not saying but I'm but from like what hearing people and how they move that some people just are sure there's always any psychic scars to go from your

Brian Atlasbartending days are you still bartending I'm not oh you quit okay yeah all right wait let's do a little experiment because this camera's all up I think I've perhaps Kiko

Brian Atlascan I have you lean all the way back so you're out of frame totally even more Yep yo check out that double chin right there oh

Brian Atlascamera this it's fixed now and then it's gonna go back to like this blue tint I don't know what is causing that I was just gonna

Brian Atlassay I'm gonna trust me you notice it you notice it I noticed it but I'm not trying to be all blue tinted and over here in the chat if you care twos in the chat if you don't okay

Jillthe chat doesn't care but I care I got it it's like the Twilight song from the Communists okay okay so um he said this is my nickname Jilly

Kikosilly he said Jilly's feeling silly I don't I don't think it's I don't he's trying to turn you down yeah a nice way yeah yeah you can tell it's a joke now okay any other friendships you can just

Katieabsolutely I have one well you have another one I have another one okay go ahead I've gone on a date with this guy but like no no no no no no no no okay no no no no no no

Katieno so we've we were friends we met through a mutual friend sure and we we've a group of four of us and so we like we're like oh do you want to like go see a movie afterwards someone was like Hey you realize you

Katiewent on a day with this guy I was like I don't think I did go on a date with him we were just hanging out and went to a movie theater am I crazy oh so

Emilymake a move or anything did you try yes no did he pay for your ticket movie dates are really awesome yes but I paid Thursday I don't know I wouldn't do that that seems like a date I would never

Emilythat's never what pay for it guys food I can't I'm traditional I believe that she didn't think it was a date though just like I didn't think every day I thought it was just like a friendship thing right so you would never pay for his

Emilyfood even like I'm not saying first date like in a relationship you'll never swipe your card okay no I will but that a first date I thought we were talking about a first date yeah absolutely yeah

Summerbecause I was like no I would definitely I would not personally people paying for me like first date yes but if they're constantly paying for me I cannot do that I would feel so bad and it's like a leech like I like want to pay and like

Summerif we switch off or have like a like a like a system where it's like every other or whatever I think that is healthy than just the guy paying for the girl for everything so I love my DP for everything

KikoI mean if they want more than 50 50 I think the man should be paying go ahead Brian more times when it comes like food and things like that but I every once in a while throwing them in yeah of course I can surprise them with a little thing

TTS Readerbut overall yeah definitely not first date 777 million 777 777 donated one hundred dollars

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Mirathink did you send one did you hear back I never heard back do you have any other male friends that you can just hit up and be like I mean I do but I don't want to ruin a relationship also a lot of you

Brian Atlashave girlfriends that are my friends so it's even better no sorry sorry I'm just trying to sabotage everyone's life here okay um let's see we have I'm trying to think

Brian Atlaswhere we left off oh we had the chat here from JBS let me pull that up oh uh body drop think was that 10 gifted uh Subs on Twitch hey thank you man JBS

Brian Atlasmore women choosing not to participate in hookup culture is not going to stop men from wanting it you all know there's men who fake relationships all the time for sex a man has to want to commit to

Brian Atlascommitted relationship on his own to commit to a relationship on his own will oh there there you go JBS good point good point but I mean look if it became hard like

Kikoif it was just there was a very small proportion of women who were willing to engage in hookup culture then out of this necessity what's that there's gonna get sneakier then yeah no there's a lot of men who like if like

Kikoyou know sometimes they for some reason if they really want to hook up with that girl super bad they'll spend months leading them on just to get that one thing so if like if there's less woman that they could just go to to get that easy hookup then they're gonna have to

Summerstart up start manipulating more women who just you know honestly but is it is now to throw themselves out there but if they're like hiding now it's going to be harder yeah now that then they're like

Summeryeah so it's like it's a well either way realistically hookup culture is getting way worse if you think about it like now they're starting at earlier ages yeah earlier everything it's just getting worse well when you

Summersay so you're talking like in high school no like I have seen like little siblings get with people in like Middle School I've had girls get pregnant at my school like yes it's like where I don't

Summerknow at least where I'm from it starts out young age is actually going up statistically people are having kids later so it's not I'm from like Southern California so people have the same kids

Kikolater but I think people are talking about sleeping with each other yeah yeah I I but like the with the having the babies and stuff like it seems that way but also you have to remember with social media you have a lot more access to see a lot more things but statistically the average age that women

Priyaare having their first children is going up it's because people don't want to have yeah that's not necessarily it like I mean obviously you know sex is a precursor to having children but there's a lot of like they're always out there

Kikofor people to have contraception I see how it's definitely getting worse but I just feel like a lot of people discredit what used to be going on like little kids were always hooking up kids were always hooking up like I know girls in

Kikohigh school who are hooking up Middle School who are hooking up like it's not anything new I just think it's becoming more normalized as in a way it's being talked when did you start Kika like when

Kikolike sexually not until College not until College Late Bloomer then kind of a little bit I was pretty it was pretty average for my school there were some girls who would but

Grace (Juice)um it wasn't yeah that common we but you said that um men will get like more manipulative men I don't know if I said it correctly sorry but uh don't you think maybe they're just gonna try

Grace (Juice)harder and make them work more for you know even though if they it doesn't work out for a relationship but at least they work harder like to get you don't you think that's like a little bit more worth it than it's like yeah but if they're working harder just to have sex

Summerwith me it's still gonna have the same outcome unless if they would have just told me that in the beginning because then you'll get like emotionally attached you know manipulate you into that and then they'll ghost you after because we're talking about men who have

Kikolike this you know promoters like to call it to constantly hook up be sleeping around all the time and if they can't have access to that and that's still what their mindset is even if they're putting more effort to

Kikoit it's technically fake effort because they're just doing it out of the hopes of being able to sleep with you still but at least there's effort you know I see that but I like it's like you're trying to just prolong game for me personally I can see how some people like maybe she would like that if they

Kikowere putting the effort in the beginning for a little bit but it's like I'd rather just know straight up what your intentions are and not yeah someone be straight up yeah because they're def I mean look there definitely are men out there that they will play

Brian Atlasthe slow game they'll okay cool I'll wait a month two months three months and then the energy the native 99 there you

TTS Readerhave it culture is a major Rel and red flag don't listen to these hoes finding yourself and exploring getting ran through is not fulfilling no matter how

TTS Readeryou spin it ask the one in the back if she's happy with eight bodies oh Madison all right I'm very very happy do you see this spring on my hand what's

Brian Atlasthis is that your phone I have a lovely relationship she's got a lovely relationship Frankie is a good guy nice guy uh wow they're really coming for you

PriyaMadison never ever I didn't put it out there you put it out there you did you did you set her up how they set you up she's good she's

Priyachilling uh are girls with the high body count ashamed of it are they ashamed of it yeah because I know some girls that are and some girls that aren't I I've met girls that love to flaunt that around

Brian Atlasum very much for the uh gifted 50 memberships thank you thank you really appreciate it cheers yeah I've known a lot of girls that think that it's empowering and makes and it makes them

Priyalook cool and they love to flaunt that number around even to men that they're dating but men don't find that attractive at all right men men think that's a turn

Emilyoff because I feel like there's an issue with people saying don't shame girls for hooking up but girls who do have a high body count sometimes hide it themselves

Emilyand I feel like they're that kind of alludes to them being ashamed of themselves and their own actions so I don't know if they're truly fulfilled by

Katiethat if they are trying to hide it I have a close friend that has I would call a high body count um but she she seems happy with her life

Katieshe like very much normalizes the fact that she constantly has sex like and she seems to be happy she's recently maybe found a relationship still in early stages but like she just she's leaving

Katieit very normal that she has how old is this girl my age 18 yeah what's her body count yeah I she said over 10 I don't have an exact number maybe over 15 I'd I can tell you

Brian Atlasthe exact numbers okay at 18. okay hey look I mean UCSB number one party school in the nation some girls will put up 30 and their first freshman semester was a

Brian Atlasquarter I don't know a quarter they'll put up 30 in a quarter 40 50 in a quarter first quarter then you got a second quarter then maybe you're here for summer and you got second year third

Brian Atlasyear fourth year that's like 100 200 bodies by yeah the time you get your degree maybe you do a fifth year because you've been too much who knows it's crazy sometimes it gets delayed

Brian AtlasFocus Party The Party of the uh you know what is going on with this camera what the frick Brian Twilight Saga gotta have the Twilight I

Brian Atlasdon't know what it is it's weird is it the lighting in here hey Nick do you and we'll deal with it after the show no we've always had that though and it's never done this whatever it's fine it's

Brian Atlasfine it's fine um Okay so so I have a chat here from puffy Vegas 50 YouTube 9 18 22. thank you for just providing a date I have no idea what the

Priyayou're talking about puffy puppy are you an American citizen I think puffy is he actually Nick well

Summerhe spelled his first comment wrong like five times or not that bright wait that's the wrong Year too right it's yeah

Brian Atlasthe wrong year so okay maybe you're in a week away yeah I got I got a question for you guys so um and it's sort of related to your situation so you're in a complicated thing with the guy and it's

Brian Atlaskind of an open relationship yeah uh you opened it on both your ends was that more so you was it him was it both of you it was Mutual it was definitely mutual

Miraso no you said you gave him an ultimatum Oh No I gave him ultimate him I was just like because he wanted to go see other people I wanted to go see other people but I was like if you really want to do

Mirathis then we're either going to be like full on long distance dating I'm gonna come down you're gonna come up like we're gonna be talking to to each other every single day but then it just it just didn't work out and so that was the

Kikodecision that we came down to so okay I'm not trying to call you out I was like no no no no no no I was just clarifying Okay so

Brian Atlasthis is opens up to the whole panel here so let's say you met a guy maybe it's early on and let's say you won a relationship and he says maybe you approach him you say hey what are we I want to be

Brian Atlasexclusive I want to be boyfriend girlfriend and he says me too however on the condition that you no longer party anymore so you can't go to the bars you can't go to clubs you can't go home

TTS Readerit's so quaint that you think hookup culture is new our society is doomed I mean look there's always been people been hooking up I've probably since I

Kikodon't I don't know I mean people used to be wild with hooking up too that's like in the 60s I guess sexual Revolution oh yeah career for a woman like this is nothing new it's just

Brian Atlasdiscussed a lot more but now with dating apps sorry yeah well what I think you're about to say with dating apps it's just open people have way more optionality than they used to

Brian Atlasyeah like in the past I mean if you before dating apps before social media you had your kind of immediate Social Circle and your immediate local area whereas now with dating apps and Instagram maybe some of you have had

Brian Atlasexperiences with this I don't know you'll get some dude in Miami some dude in Las Vegas some dude in L.A some dude overseas who's going to slide into your DMs who could match with you on a dating app let me fly you out

Kikooh my God I saw some fresh and fit clip too impression names one of them diversity women are getting flown out I don't think it's that high I don't think it's that high unless like Instagram

Kikomodels yeah something like that the average girl is not getting flown out even from a guy that she met on a dating app like that's not unless everyone's 60 day fiance or whatever it's called or Instagram have you had an offer

Brian Atlasbefore even coming on the show have you had fly out offers yes but who knows that they would have ever actually done huh who knows that they would have actually ever done it boy the offer was there

Brian Atlasright oh it was more than one was it a couple offers I've gotten like two like two yeah so three okay three it doesn't matter never happened it still never happened that's the whole

Kikopoint though well they made the offer maybe you didn't accept the offer uh yeah I mean I guess I rang them around but it's like it's not it's it's not common like everyone's trying to make it no I'm not saying are people hooking up from from Tinder and stuff of

Kikocourse yeah that's probably yeah but it's happening but it's not getting a fly-out bases people are using Tinder to still hook up with people in their area sure absolutely absolutely but even within the localized area I mean I'm

Brian Atlasjust adding on the globalized component just to it's uh I agree with you it's not like insanely commonness for let's say a more normal average girl right um although we have definitely had women

Brian Atlascome on the show they're 19 year old 19 year olds in college a thousand followers on Instagram they're not like yeah I definitely only had like a thousand followers on it yeah like they'll get an offer either through a

Brian Atlasdating app or DM hey I'm in Vegas let me fly you out I'm in Miami let me fly you out so uh you know it happens look I'm not gonna sit

Kikohere like the other guy and say oh it's 80 yeah I think that's probably uh do you sound maybe 40 of Instagram models I don't know but not yeah universities but

Brian Atlaseven localized I mean back before dating apps you were maybe potentially had one or two or three guys that were maybe courting you now with Instagram and dating apps within a day

Brian Atlasof any girl downloading a dating app you're gonna have 100 plus pending matches they're gonna message you almost instantly it's not meant to very few men mine but there's such a discrepancy on the dating apps well and part of it is

Brian Atlasbecause um and I don't want to like try to mislead there are more on Tinder there's way more men on Tinder so obviously it's going to skew things women are gonna have more options

Brian Atlasbecause there's just more men on the on those dating apps but it does it doesn't distract from the fact that just as a woman you can go on the dating app and have 100 matches within 24 hours and if

Brian Atlasyou if you were so inclined you could have three dates every single day of the week true but most women don't yeah I don't think well just as a from a practicality point of view I don't think

Brian Atlasmost people in general could date like to go on three dates per day per week or every single day per week but um yeah now you got dating apps like

Brian Atlasso many options the optionality is insane and what I would actually say is you look at the average woman's optionality it's always been pretty substantial as compared to men

Brian Atlasthe average woman's optionality basically an average woman in today in 2023 has the equivalent sexual optionality as a celebrity so athlete musician actor

Kikothey always have no but they didn't you didn't always have that access you didn't have that degree of access I mean the only thing is I guess the degree of access is because a celebrity is more well known so obviously everyone knows

Kikowho they are and now yes I guess with Tinder and dating or the social media apps a woman can do that but still I mean most I say most women don't even take up on those offers that they get on

Brian Atlassocial media so it's not really making a difference Well here here's where it does sort of make a difference maybe they're not taking up those offers although they might be taking up the best offerings

Brian Atlasyou're going to start like they feel their value increases yeah you're gonna like start having an over inflated sense of how attractive you are if like if a hundred dudes want to you you're

Kikogonna be like yo I'm hot but guys don't get that no that guys will anything like that's not I don't know any woman there is some woman I I will say that does play into their head sure but majority of women know that men will anything so I don't

Kikofind it as a compliment when a guy says well me of course you would I mean that's a guy like that's not a compliment to most women to know that you're interested in me when I was getting most when I was getting most hit up on social media I felt honestly truly

Kikothe most insecure and ugliest so I don't think there's a direct correlation between the two I think men like to think there is but I don't really think but but if you were to like reverse it so if if the optionality was reversed

Brian Atlasand it was just a bunch of women wanting the dudes like if if a hundred women today wanted to just me

KikoI would be like curving the out of all these chicks right can you guess because we have 100 people yeah I got 100 people yeah

SummerI get your point but I just think that people were trying to play it up a little bit more yeah I feel like guys will just say it just to say it but like honestly if I'm like posting on Instagram and like a guy comments it's like nothing but if girls like you know

Summerlike especially if they like say something specific like girls just sort of like well like are your hype women like they'll hype you up like you'll know like if like they'll tell you the truth basically like what do you mean like I'm saying like I feel more hyped up if a girl tells me like I look good

Summerlike if I was going out to a party and she's like oh like you look like good like oh my gosh you're so pretty like I feel like I would take it as a more compliment from that than a guy because honestly like the girls that I'm friends with at least my friend group like we're

Brian Atlasbrutally honest to each other so what you're saying is yeah just men should stop complimenting women

Summerstupid like if they like obviously I'm not saying like compliments but if like a guy like talks like DMZ like obviously like they want to they're a guy like it's just you know like or they want to pursue a long-term monogamous

Summerrelationship you never know then don't DM me on Instagram how are they supposed to I'll answer this well because like I feel like I don't know I'm not I don't think like I like I've anyone who like has dating apps like like I don't like like I don't shame them for it but I

Brian Atlasdon't think I would meet someone off a dating app or sure yeah anything like that so wait so and two-part question to this and we used to um on that guy there we used to one of the questions I used to ask is

Brian Atlashave any of you ever had a blue check mark dmu of course now you can buy a blue check mark on Instagram but maybe before or you've got a recently a blue check mark dming you but it was actually like a valid

Brian AtlasI don't know musician athlete something or other has anybody here had my ex-boyfriend was a professional athlete your your ex-boyfriend was a professional athlete yeah

Brian Atlaslet me see was this the uh the one-year relationship yeah oh but wait this is high school that was a high yeah he went pro after Junior High

Emilyafter Junior High and what sport yeah basketball soccer name drops name drop right here no no no it's not legal have to go to high school

EmilyOkay so so it's not really like a slit in my DMs it was like a committed relationship so I don't know if the ques the follow-up question would apply but we'll keep so

TTS Readeryou Kiko you you've had a like semi-famous oh hold on one sec Brandon Mills donated 99 yeah thank you speaking of Tinder they did a study that less

TTS Readerthan five percent of men are finding relationships on their app so they decided to roll out a 500 dollar per month to increase their chances by 25

Brian Atlasour apps now heavily profiting off male loneliness yes I mean it's a lot more than the dating apps you have only fans you have uh other things that's definitely uh I mean these industries

Brian Atlasyou basically have an entire industry when it comes to uh you have only fans porn uh strippers what else I mean anything that

Brian Atlassexualizes women it's an entire industry that exists primarily because of male loneliness like if men were in relationship well if men were getting laid they wouldn't be so quick to turn to porn

Brian Atlasonly fans strippers Etc look of course there's guys in relationships they do that too but

Brian Atlasmale loneliness rip RP's in the chat okay wait so uh you had some blue check marks on the DM's crew sorry sorry

Brian AtlasI want to start calling you by your actual name Kiara oh did it did I say wrong no ah okay let's not do that Kiara

Kikohe doesn't sound right anymore the blue check marks what's what about it NFL player um one was a

Kikomusic producer and then the other one NBA did you count would you assuming you were single would you be down for DJ Khaled absolutely

Kikoanother one another one I like physically fit men yeah he's working on it he plays golf and he can work on it he does play golf he's actually okay a music producer you said NBA yeah

KikoSteph Curry I love that even she's like I'm not good enough it's definitely also he's married can I just read that I don't know man it's

Kikobecause he has married with three beautiful children I would hope he's not messaging me I don't know I don't really watch NBA so I love that you're also going after some of the most famous people it was actually really funny though when

Kikoit did happen because I was a freshman in college actually when the NBA player hit me up and I remember I was like

Kikositting in my um lecture and um I got the DM and I was like um I didn't know who it was like I had no idea who he was and he was um it was

Kikohis he's a rookie it was his first season and I remember I told a couple guys on my dorm Hall and they like freaking flipped out they're like what the heck are you well this one and then they're

Brian Atlasshowing me a bunch of clips and I'm like I do not care I do not care at all any other check marks just any no I'm going to add on to this um

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