2 Escorts RAGE QUIT?! Husband CRASHES Show?! Body Count OVER 9,000?! | Dating Talk #119

Date: 2023-11-20

Duration: 4h 58m

Guests

Brian Atlas

OOlivia Bentley >

LLauren (Brothel)>

AAnnie Lobert >

AAlice Little >

MMadison (DT119)>

MMason Gregoire >

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00TTS/Audience(audience)

SPEAKER_01Oz Fox(guest)

SPEAKER_02Mercedes(guest)

SPEAKER_03Annie Lobert(guest)

SPEAKER_05Olivia Bentley(guest)

SPEAKER_07Alice Little(guest)

SPEAKER_08Mason Gregoire(guest)

SPEAKER_09Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_10Madison(guest)

SPEAKER_11Lauren(guest)

Key Moments

IntroShow intro and all guest introductions. Panel: Olivia Bentley (46, courtesan), Lauren (31, Moonlight Bunny Ranch), Annie Lobert (56, Hookers for Jesus CEO), Mercedes (33, ex-stripper/life coach), Alice Little (33, legal sex worker), Madison (18, student), Mason Gregoire (27, mechanical engineer/Christian virgin).

IntroOlivia Bentley introduces herself: age 46, professional intimacy provider and porn star, independent courtesan.

“hey Brian I am Olivia Bentley I am 46 I am a professional intimacy provider and I am also a porn star”

IntroLauren introduces herself: age 31, courtesan at Moonlight Bunny Ranch, also a musician and PR for musicians.

“hi I'm Lauren roses I am 31 I am a cortison at the moonlight bunny ranch and I'm also a musician”

IntroAnnie Lobert introduces herself: CEO of Hookers for Jesus, operates 2 safe houses for women formerly abused by the adult entertainment industry.

“my name is Annie lar and I am the CEO of hookers for Jesus pink chair”

IntroMercedes introduces herself: age 33, ex-stripper and sex worker turned spirit-led pleasure-based life coach and sensual healer.

“my name's Mercedes otano I'm an ex stripper and sex worker turned spirit-led pleasure-based life coach and sensual healer”

IntroAlice Little introduces herself: age 33, legal sex worker, sex educator, and intimacy expert.

“my name is Alice little I am a legal sex worker sex educator and intimacy expert and I'm 33 years old”

IntroMason Gregoire introduces himself: age 27, mechanical engineer, content creator, competitive powerlifter, and devout Christian.

“my name is Mason greguar I am a uh I got crap for saying this last time but I'll say it again I am foremost a follower of Christ um mechanical engineer content creator competitive powerlifter”

ControversyOlivia Bentley recounts appearing on Candace Owens' show. She went expecting an Oxford-style debate on sex work legalization but faced personal attacks about her son. Describes it as a 'gotcha interview'.

Key MomentOlivia calls Mason Gregoire a 'misogynist', then walks it back to 'mansplainer', then to just disagreeing with his values. Brian repeatedly presses for a definition of misogyny; Olivia struggles to articulate a specific behavior.

“Olivia says that you're a misogynist / I would say that anybody that... men that diss and hate women for their being”

Key MomentMason cites fall of Greek, Roman, and Babylonian empires as correlated with breakdown of nuclear family/traditional marriage. Alice rebuts by citing Hammurabi Code which protected sex workers from the beginning of civilization.

QuoteMason states: 'as we see the relationship between a husband and a wife has been deteriorated and destroyed we've seen societies fail' — citing Greek, Roman, Babylonian empires as historical examples.

“the pillar of the nuclear family of traditional relationships has been taken out in those societies that is when they fail”

QuoteLauren recounts her 'magnum opus': a client came to the ranch intending to commit a mass shooting if rejected. Lauren took him in fully, he cried and said thank you. Mercedes: 'You stopped a potential mass shooting, yes, with your [vagina].'

“I was about to do something really really stupid what the H and he got and he said I'm so happy... he was going to go on a ramp”

Key MomentDiscussion of Annie waiting until marriage for sex with Oz despite a professional body count of ~30,000. Brian questions whether making a new partner wait after sleeping with others quickly is 'a bit of a fraud'.

“your body count was like 30,000 plus yeah but your husband he had to wait until marriage yes”

IntroOz Fox (Stryper lead guitarist, Annie's husband) joins the show unexpectedly from the parking lot. Introduces himself as married to Annie, original Stryper member since 1983.

“I'm Oz Fox uh married to Annie Annie's husband okay and uh we've been married for 15 years I've been in striper the Christian 80s hair metal band”

ControversyOlivia Bentley and Alice Little leave the show mid-episode without explicit explanation. Brian: 'they actually did, they left.'

“did they leave both in the bathroom they're both in the bathroom... they actually did they left”

Key MomentOz Fox discusses meeting Annie on MySpace (2007), Stryper's history, playing KISS Cruise, wearing makeup as stage makeup (not cross-dressing), and his previous 20-year marriage before Annie.

OtherBrian plays two TikTok videos of a woman claiming she would embarrass Brian if she came on the podcast. Brian explains she was invited but blocked them after two months of dodging.

QuoteTTS donation reads: 'all women are sex workers' — prompts laughter from the panel.

“all women are sex workers”

Topics Discussed

Show intro and guest introductions

Brian introduces show format; each guest states name, age, occupation. Panel focuses on sex work industry.

Olivia's Candace Owens appearance

Olivia describes Candace Owens show as a 'gotcha interview'; she expected Oxford-style debate on sex work legalization but faced personal questions about her son.

Relationship status round

All guests share current relationship status, longest relationship, and time single.

Annie's backstory and meeting Oz Fox

Annie recounts her history as a call girl, pimp relationships, overdose in 2003, and meeting Oz Fox via MySpace in 2007.

Advice to women entering sex work

Each guest answers what advice they'd give a young woman considering entering the escort industry.

Client counts / professional body counts

Guests discuss total number of professional clients. Annie: ~30,000; Alice: 3,000-5,000+; Olivia: 2,000-3,000; Lauren: ~1,000-1,100; Mercedes: under 20.

Religion, virginity, and sex work ethics

Extended debate between Mason Gregoire (Christian virgin) and the sex workers on sin, redemption, Bible, misogyny. Includes aliens/Bible tangent.

Historical context of sex work

Alice Little argues sex work has existed since dawn of civilization (Hammurabi Code, Wild West expansion). Mason argues societal harm from breakdown of nuclear family.

Sex work statistics and harm/benefit debate

Mason cites history (Greek/Roman/Babylonian empires) as evidence family unit degradation leads to societal collapse. Alice and Olivia counter with historical presence of sex work.

Magnum opus / best professional experiences

Guests describe their most memorable or impactful professional encounter. Includes Lauren's story of preventing a potential mass shooting; Olivia's erectile dysfunction cure; Alice's scripted 24-hour fantasy.

Annie's marriage and waiting until marriage

Annie describes meeting Oz Fox, first date, waiting until marriage for sex despite her past. Discussion of whether making a new partner wait is fraudulent if she slept with others quickly.

Olivia's New York Post article / BBC tweet controversy

Brian pulls up Olivia's New York Post article about saving marriages. Olivia clarifies she never claimed to be a sex therapist; media framing. Discussion of BBC OnlyFans content and Candace Owens' focus on it.

Mercedes: relationship dynamics and sex work

Mercedes explains her poly relationship history, meeting her baby's father at the strip club, and theory about sex workers attracting misaligned masculine energy.

Porn is not cheating / ethical porn debate

Alice argues porn is not cheating; women shouldn't compare themselves to porn stars. Brian says preference to not watch porn is valid if communicated.

Oz Fox arrives mid-show

Annie's husband Oz Fox (Stryper lead guitarist) joins the show from the parking lot. Discusses meeting Annie, Stryper history, tours, KISS Cruise appearance, his second marriage.

Olivia and Alice leave the show

Brian discovers Olivia and Alice have left the studio mid-show ('they actually did, they left'). No explanation given on air.

Reaction to TikTok critic video

Brian reacts to two TikTok videos from a woman who claimed she would make Brian look dumb but then blocked the show when invited. Mercedes, Lauren, and remaining guests comment.

Closing and final thoughts

Guests give final thoughts. Oz Fox sings a snippet of 'Let It Be'. Brian wraps up the show.

Transcript

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Mercedesthan being a sex worker out there I don't know why it's such a big deal like okay sure great be a sex worker cool cool I mean I think you're looking for a yes or no and it's so much more complex than just like yes or no

Brian Atlaslike there's so much more behind it you don't need to give it yes or no but I'm hoping you can give brief answers just give the short version and if you want to explain you

Annie Lobertexp from somebody who's spent the whole entire time yeah um I would definitely say no because of the experience I have myself and the wonderful it's been more

Laurenthan 15,000 people we've helped out of sex work that no no too dangerous for me if if she came to me when so I get my

LaurenTantra Tantra um practitioners certification this upcoming year and if she said mom I want to be like you and I like how you're into Tantra and I like how you you know do that at the bro I

Laurenlike how you he you know are really into healing and having this experience with people I'd say okay well you can go to these Retreats you know I'll for you to go to these Retreats and if and if you really enjoy that there are brothel available for you to work at but if she

Laurenjust says oh my gosh mom I want to make a lot of money like you and I I don't really want to do that that's not my style and I'm just I'm just trying to you know get money and I'd be like didn't you learn anything from your mother like literally like didn't you

SPEAKER_06learn anything from my life cuz obviously she would know it yeah godler donated $100 only a western block test can properly diagnose genital herpes passing

SPEAKER_06the standard herpes test means means nothing sorry you all definitely have it0 bodies equals 12 Partners who are infected filthy filthy don't have it I

Brian Atlasdon't have it I literally like every single show Jay Butler brings up he's our he's a he's a uh what's the I always forget the term J for jack off he's a uh

Brian Atlasoh okay an incel yeah no no that's not what I was going to say he's a uh what's the term for a a [ __ ] [Music]

Mercedesthought we were GNA FR from the name calling let's just hyp regardless hey well if you have herpes you're still a good person I have

Mercedesa hot take on the daughters being sex workers because after just hearing you speak because the foundation of my work is in Tantra and like I said I I still feel like I'm in sex work it just looks different okay and I do have a belief

Mercedesthat all women are actually sex workers it just the way that we identify yep the way that we identify um

Mercedeswork all wait hold on all women are sex workers all women are sex workers look at okay literally all women have Sexual Energy all women work with their sexual

Mercedesenergy to create not only life she's giving you a back massage uh did you cook today yes okay so you used your Sexual Energy you used your creative you

Mercedesused cooking sexual you because looking wa wait wait wait cuz you're looking at sexual as like oh I'm doing this and I'm like getting turned on Sexual Energy is

Mercedescreative life force energy so when you're creating anything a painting I'm creating words when you're cooking like Kini yeah it's condal so whenever you're creating

Mercedesanything you're literally using your sacral Sexual Energy so all people are sexual beings all women use their sexual energy to create are you saying chefs are sex workers yeah

Mercedeschefs are sex workers all no I'm using that as an example but I'm saying anything that you're creating you're using this life force energy your sacral energy it's literally

Alice Littlea motor in your body which I could go into that rabbit hole and I won't I mean it's a motor Center in your body though I think we also need to be careful too

Alice Littleabout science say there's one right way to do sex work sex work takes so many different forms and fashions for so many different people correct it's really

Alice Littlemultifaceted I mean we've all assumed here that we're talking about brothel work sex work not a single person who said what if it was phone sex work what

Alice Littleif they were a sex therapist what if they were someone who was a certified Tantra practition T is not Tantra is not even about sex that's the thing there's a small percentage of

MercedesT saying that Madison over there when she was cooking earlier today that means I'm was SI no that means that you were that means that you working with your sexual energy to create something to manifest something and that's literally

Mercedeswhat sex workers do we have an intention we go in we we uh manifest we create and then we have a tangible result which is money that's our tangible manifestation of the night but you mentioned

Mercedesspecifically when she was cooking earlier today how does that relate an okay so creating I'm creating words right now that's sex work let me let me get to it what's the def we need to

MercedesDefine what sex because it's defitely so I'm talking about using your sexual energy to create and we all use our Sexual Energy to create we're we're talking about Tantra it's not even about

MercedesTantra it's literally science it's our sacral energy look up the sacral look up your sacral energy sexual how do you measure sacral energy

Mason Gregoiresacral it's literally a chakra so how do you measure that I don't know I I don't know you measure that science it's life for energy sence needs obser I I don't know I bet we find it though

Mason Gregoireyeah you can say look it up but so if you have done all of this research and you say it's scientific scientific is measured by the scientific method so you have to be able to observe something it

Mercedeshas to be repeatable and has to be measured okay the Shakra system is proven how how did you measure that I don't know how they [ __ ] measure it but proven not a belief system it's it's

Mason Gregoireit's not scientific so it it might be a belief system you I I can't say you don't believe that people's beliefs everybody has different beliefs we're not here to call People's beliefs into

Mason Gregoirequestion like you called my beliefs into question and I nobody you WR we all have that's the thing so like I can challenge your beliefs I think

Mercedesbeliefs should be challeng I'm not a sex worker you're not I'm notx you are work in the show aren't you for all these trolls our sex w that's I

Mercedeswonder if we're all all working with our Sexual Energy our sacral is a motor Center in our body it's in human design there are

SPEAKER_06so niod on donated $100 these women that spout this garbage about Titanic sex massages neological

SPEAKER_06Moon signs horoscopes and Boards then sit there and scoff at the Bible facts that's facts it's facts I did I love the Bible I love the

MercedesBible but I'm not talking about all the even beli that it's even believed that Mary magdalin was a tantric Priestess and that she was the one oh my Jeremy in

SPEAKER_06Vegas donated $100 Brian Stella job as always I totally share Mitch's values but I'd also argue this is one of the most

SPEAKER_06intelligent panels you've had on Annie love your work Lauren Love Your Soul # baking is six work

Annie Lobertbaking am I Mitch that's my baking is SE speaking of baking let's eat something literally my sugar is low I'm like Germany in

Brian AtlasVegas okay I don't don't get me on the [ __ ] rails here okay speaking cuz I'll go down a rabbit hole I can't and I don't have the mental energy right now I

Brian Atlasjust flat out disagree with you that you said the I think you said sex workers everything is everything is sexual everything is

SPEAKER_06sexual SE $100 you're absolutely right sex work takes many shapes and forms and they're all fend degenerate pure degeneracy pure

Alice Littledegeneracy I love that you're explaining science to degenerate clueless sex workers I'm in school right now oh yes I think what I'm pretty sure that most of

Brian Atlasus are more intelligent than Selen Selen Selena G please get her last name we're all please get the last name I think that

Mercedeswe're conditioned to think like I want you I want you both to understand I understand yours comes from religion but I want to hear your hot take on where

Mercedesyour conditioned belief that sex is inherently wrong whoa whoa whoa who work sorry sex work is inherently wrong I want to hear your belief like where did that stem from I I think we've

Brian Atlasalready lingered on that too long as it is if we time permitting we can come back to that at the end of the show let's go to fun sug dropping oh you know what yeah I

Brian Atlascan describe a fun I like what is saying let me read this from Dr Clockwork of girls agree to come on then see content and Flake they don't want to get crapped on for body count wife and I would love

Brian Atlasto come on and debate you both in adult industry Alice ammy says hi we miss you and then we have we do have a TTS coming in here I want to see Adam 22 on this

SPEAKER_06he's been on the show like a couple months ago modim donated $100 sorry if already disgusted yes or no Q did you grow up with your

SPEAKER_06biological married parents in a single family household since I'm not a cat can I not have an opinion on cats science is truth yes well put well put jaama monest

Brian Atlashik I think how do you pronounce it hi it's hik I keep messing it up I'm sorry oh by the way this I'm pinky is an idiot since sorry that this fell off I'm not

Brian Atlasgoing to be able to trigger it but it did come up Brian or no no it says Candace's husband is is Jewish this chick is absolute degenerate Christ is King oh I don't why did he own that was

Brian Atlaslike 30 minutes ago I don't I sure I'm not sure it came in a minute ago all right yep super cool someone said hello named Alice yeah she said hello to Alice yeah

Laurenuh okay okay coming back to you you're a shaman I wish um but said you're a sex Shaman I am a tantra practitioner in training right now and but I did go to a sexual Shaman Retreat I did did you play

Laurenhoarde or Alliance no no I didn't know how to do that cuz you're you're a shaman right so do you play like hoard or Alliance are we talking like classic Warcraft I don't do you play that for

Brian Atlasthe I didn't I appreciate I don't know how to do uh cuz like if it's obviously if it's like classic you only be shot in on hord side I guess I could try did you play

Brian Atlastroll or orc or Toren um TR I don't think I've played any of that like I think the attack animations are the best for troll but I

Brian Atlasthink like PVP you probably want to go orc because of the 25% stun resistance for classic orid like orc is pretty good for Shaman like for PVP cuz the stun

Brian Atlasresist she so confused like I think troll is like has the best like attack and cast animations she does not have the stun resist this is wait what is

Brian Atlashappening wait wait wait the Shan but if like post like post burning Crusade right like past the burning Crusade you can play shaman on both

Alice Littlefactions pandas oh har that's Haram oh we don't talk about anything past wrath oh are we going to fight I

Brian Atlastalk I am so confused okay all right um do you wait [ __ ] I had a question oh this is for all the girls kind of maybe I should wait until she's

Brian Atlasback from the bathroom do you when it comes to the work that you guys do MH do you consider yourselves

Brian Atlasartists yes when you [ __ ] are you like yo I'm [ __ ] Mozart in this [ __ ] master class I want to give them 100% I'm standing up and I'm telling you I am

SPEAKER_12Warhol everything that's right when I'm with most impactful artist of Our Generation I am Shakespeare in the flesh Walt Disney Nike do you got like so you guys you

Alice Littleguys got that Kanye [Applause] energy artist you become very all famous artists in many cases

Alice Littlebased their art off of sex workers who do you think is in man and man and literally painted

Alice Littleprostitutes that is a fact have you never seen Olympia artist do you not know who Olympia is Olympia the very

Alice Littlefamous painting some artists some artists many sex workers said all all artists all arst a lot of Municipal

Brian Atlasartists are inspired by L so many so much art is inspired by WR songs about sex I no maybe I disagree I don't think

Brian Atlasmost art is inspired by sex work perhaps you can make the argument like there's a lot of love songs out there they're inspired by love or women or like Ro sex work I mean what do you

Alice Littlethink that one was inspired by certainly not his truck I don't think no darling Micky Jes what about darling I but okay I'm not saying that

Brian Atlasthere is no art out there that is an influen or inspired by perhaps a prostitute every time the Taylor Swift

Alice Littlebreaks up with a man we all get a new album it is love that is sex Crea energ is part of the motivation what D

Alice Littley'all are delusional do you really think if she was not intimately invested in these dudes that you would turn around and produce all these Dynamic songs you think that what they're doing is not sex

Mercedeswork they're going up they're literally dancing and [ __ ] gyrating who um all Beyonce every single female

Mercedesartist saw you're committed to looking at it from a specific lens which is fine like you're entitled to that but like I agree with that yeah the truth they are definitely portraying themselves asual

Mercedesthemselves as sexual and that's because oh my God I'm not but it's yes that but it's because we're all innately sexual [ __ ] oh excuse me sexual beings the Earth is a sexual being I see what

Mercedesyou're saying yes there are certainly certain um female musicians that are being sexual to further their from the dawn of time it just is no there are plenty

Mercedesof so certain people the shape of Venus what what even even when there was really conservative youth you have to think like there was women who how do

Olivia Bentleyyou want women portrayed in society what do you envision what should we look like the Bowing video I got you I got

SPEAKER_06you so far I've learned Gordon Ramsey is a sex worker he is a sex worker chakras is science the Bible talks about ET phoning home what the

Brian Atlas[ __ ] is this show the whatever whatever show has gone off the you yeah fine you want yeah actually I'll pull up

Brian Atlasthe one sec I like this question scroll up Scroll up make oh no bigger immedi immediately dislike what is no I don't a Japanese girl scroll up Scroll up Nick

Laurenscroll up I think like a solid bow in the culture the Deep misogynist in the well in the culture misogynistic misogynistic apparently yo AB Che thank you for the

Brian Atlasgifted 20 members they say the deeper the bow the bigger the respect this is respect she cooked for you and she bowed just keep watching Olivia please please please be respectful hold on be respectful wait for we're going to

Mason Gregoiresee the bow again the bow is coming up this is what I'd like I'd like I want you could create that boom wait for it boom [ __ ] huge huge okay you that I'm telling you if my wife greeted me that

Alice Littleway when I got home that would be the biggest turn on I would give her the world I War I would anything for that woman real question here hold up though aren't you not supposed to like bow

Mercedesbefore anybody other than your lord is that a part of Christianity yo modest thank you for the gifted what you just showed us was your Kink that's not

Mercedesa kink well no that's respect it's respect as a king it's it's submission respect I don't think but also you could create that look you could create that

MercedesI'm sure you'll meet a beautiful woman I can trust me I can get if I want a bow I can get a bow you could get a B you could get B I get you could create that I get ask think I can get a B now Olivia

Brian Atlashere thinks it's misogynistic going back to what's you said it was misogynistic me me wanting that is that misogynistic well it's definitely sexist are you down

Olivia Bentleysex sexist it's it's but I mean it's your preference it's your preference se mean it's if it's consensual how's it sexist something to

Olivia Bentleysay how's it sexist get ready Come On Olivia because she has like no she's stuck at home she's she's stuck at home little woman um it it's just a limited

Mason Gregoireexistence her why is her profession so disgusting to you but your profession is fine what where do you draw that line she has chosen that this is how she wants to live her life she wants to

Mason Gregoirecater to her husband she wants to provide for him she wants to respect him and this is like this is her profession like she is training herself to do this well and she does it well what is so

Olivia Bentleyterrible about is fantastic each their own and balance in that do you want

Brian Atlasus I don't know what would it do for AO microphone at a time please I I just wanted to say just the history of the bow

SPEAKER_06tell us about the history of what the history of women working and having to seek work and this isn't everyone $0000 Brian do you see what genital

SPEAKER_06herpes has done to their neurological function never let these filthy animals out of their cage has put everyone in the room at risk in the room at risk it's in

Annie Loberta can we put people off here or not we don't want we don't want to use this is that it's getting entertaining I think it's funny they're spending money to say this there's something just really

Annie Lobertimportant that I think a lot of people have missed since a dawn of time because of the equality issue the family is a beautiful picture of man woman children it's it's

Annie Lobertabsolutely beautiful and our society has broken down so bad to the fact that man can't find a wife woman can't find a good husband to provide so she has to go

Annie Lobertout and make it happen and sometimes that means using her sexuality yeah because she cannot take care of that

Annie Lobertchild that she got pregnant by with someone that left her after he convinced her to sleep with him and now she lost everything because now she has a

Brian Atlasfatherless child I will say this Annie it hurts my heart very good point I would never allow if my if my girlfriend or wife bowed to me never there's no

Mercedesworld I call my husband my Lord that she would ever get to the streets i' never stre you're a you're of masculine energy I want you to be mindful of imediate turn off I want you to be mindful of

Alice Littlewhat every what's it turn off calling your man your lord I was like immediate ick I'm sorry immediate this this is between him and I it's a personal thing uh Alice it's a it's a joke I

Brian Atlasprefer there's this story in the Bible Master's good I like Master it's about s Daddy I'm not a fan of Daddy I don't

Annie Lobertlike Daddy and daddy also oh my God Daddy's big you know this um Sarah

Annie LobertAbraham yeah so there's the story about him being the father of many nations and she called him her her Lord and it's just my husband and I laugh about it so

Annie Lobertsometimes I joke with them and this is just really just in fun being married he's like Annie and I'm like yes my Lord and he starts laugh

Annie Lobertlaughing even today he said I said honey what do you think about me I said that to him today actually I was getting r i was C my hair in the mirror Lord I said that's cute me Lord do you need anything or something he starts laughing he goes

Annie Lobertoh my gosh I go what he's laughing I go he goes it's so outdated and I'm like but now it's fun me Lord what is what is shivy though I want

Annie Lobertsomeone to tell me what shivy is because we've lost it is he like a count count count uh Nobody Knows the count he's a

Brian Atlasfriend of mine too a Viceroy is he a Viceroy your husband no I don't even know vassel are we talking a v vassel

Brian AtlasState no what is that V you know there's like Lords and then there's vassel Lords you know like no I didn't know this is going to be around Warden of the north no

Brian Atlasokay is this something to do with like the European like culture wait I do want to come back I I so I asked you guys do you consider yourselves artists and I think all you

Brian Atlassaid yes yes oh yes so another question related to that do you guys know what a magnum opus is and the ice

Brian Atlascream wow I love you Magnum so magnum opus it's your like your Masterpiece for example can you find can you go Michelangelo's

Brian Atlasthe creation of Adam or Leonardo D Vinci's Mona Lisa like the masterpiece like their their Masterwork MH yeaha Lisa Da

Brian AtlasVinci yeah is there one [ __ ] that you guys consider your magnum opus that you can think of and you're

Laurenlike yes that was my master we all like oh yeah that was my masterpiece yeah yes my daughtering my daughter I had one that happened that's a beautiful um but it was at the it was at the ranch and

Laurenthe ranch yes it was at the ranch and well like I mean like I guess um well so he he had come in and um I didn't know they allowed that well he he you know

Laurenthe ranch they they you know Patron and um okay afterwards he said wow I'm so glad that I connected with a woman he said I was

Laurenabout to do something really really stupid what the H and he got and he said I'm so happy and that time I didn't even know what he was thinking but he said I was going to do something really bad and

Laurenreally stupid but this stopped me from doing it and I was like are you talking like deleting he was going to delete him himself uh I think he was going to go on a ramp yep that's beautiful but he said he

Laurensaid thank you so much he was crying he said thank you so much he said women have been treating me bad all my life I honestly came here to to prove to myself that women are are trash just just to be

Mercedesclear just to be clear that's you stopped a potential mass shooting yes with your [ __ ] yes wow I

Mercedesthat's the power of the punini it's a portal to God men come to meet God through the feminine that's that's Tantra they come

Laurento meet the they come to meet God or Life Source through the feminine he said That's the basis of Tantra yeah he said I came here as a last resort I wanted to see if someone was going to reject me and if they did and he picked he picked

Laurenme and he said if they did reject me I would have gone and done it and I was just and I didn't I took them in and and open up full you know full service everything I have many I so that that

Brian Atlaswas your Masterpiece that was that was well it might have been the most impactful but do you do you feel like when I say Masterpiece I mean like the actual like the the [ __ ]

LaurenI guess that one actual [ __ ] was just like magical boom it was just like some movie scene [ __ ] oh oh like like like like Ro like you know like like fireworks popping out the [ __ ] I don't know I feel like I feel like if a if a

Laurenif a man is I guess you know looking back if a man's like in love like you know in love with me or he he wants me then yeah there's always fireworks you know I like I want that okay yeah but but that was I would say the master that

Mercedeswas your that was your magnumopus okay what about anybody else here me and my baby dad I met him in the club which I never ever ever gave my number to anyone I met him in the club and got pregnant

Mercedesin 2 months and I was in a relationship yep and we've been together for seven years and we created a masterpiece our daughter is that I love all right yeah

Mercedesit was it was um yeah can we pull Nick can you pull up the the Mona Lisa please yep that's my Mona Lisa my baby's get the but we we were brought together through lust and through the

Brian AtlasClub oh wow what is that redoing on the far right there what the [ __ ] I like that one go she's giving check out my only fans kind of

Laurenyeah Ln song right there sketch it doesn't even look like I love it oh well that that's AI they looks like they made her

Alice Littlein might I like her cleavage that's my favorite part of they DN she got like a r the tiniest painting I've ever seen no click click the one with the on the far

Alice Littleright there I mean obviously the one [ __ ] stacked wow that is impressive I mean she would do well on only fans I got to

Olivia Bentleysay good talk uh so magnumopus Masterpiece yeah well I'll say one that I I'm really um I put a lot into

Olivia Bentleyforeplay and men really enjoy foreplay um and I was working with a guy and he has been to brothels over the years um he belonged to a club that like they come and they'll they'll vote on girls

Olivia Bentleyand nominate girls we have this session and he starts maniacally laughing afterwards and I'm like what is going on and it was really

SPEAKER_06good the offender donated $100 I admit I don't agree with sex work however the headline women prevents mass

Olivia Bentleyshooting with sex is a story I would readit yeah no they should yeah so is laughing maniacally and I'm like what is it and he goes I want to be honest with

Olivia Bentleyyou I've been struggling with erectile dysfunction for 30 years I've been working with professionals you gave me

Olivia Bentleymy first orgasm in 30 years # healer yeah and and it was just like holy cow and and it was phenomenal but there's been moments too 30 years yes wow yes

Olivia Bentleyyeah he belongs the a sard guy and us as cortison of the Year and that stuff and but we were talking about how we you know like you when we walk out to the

Olivia Bentleybar and we sit down with somebody who's requested us and the moment it's on when like you make eye contact and it's on and you just feel the chemistry and I've

Alice Littlehad some pretty phenomenal [ __ ] phenomenal sex there was a guy I've been waiting 120 podcasts to [ __ ] use that [ __ ] sound I love

Olivia Bentleyyou have that on immediate dial beautiful he did it real quick too he was like oh he was like yes the moment there's amazing sex I remember one time I did a threesome for this with these

Olivia Bentleycouple was their anniversary yeah and she I made her squirt and that was amazing I mean making a woman squirt is you know women are harder to to clock

Olivia Bentleyyou know what I mean like takes a lot so because she was squirting he started coming and he was behind me and doggy and it was just

SPEAKER_13phenomenal phenomenal I'll never forget that it was their anniversary and they'll never forget me that's great I love it for you I just had a great visual I'm over here

Brian Atlaslaughing cuz I'm like okay we're watching that's a fantasy of mine that kind of talk oh goodness uh have you had a magnumopus

Annie Lobertyes Masterpiece um it was outside of sex work though okay so it was the night that I gave myself to my husband cuz we had waited

Brian Atlasfor marriage oh that's right yeah well get into that Alice what about you had In-N-Out Burger first you got to follow up an In-N-Out burger with with some more in and out H

Alice Littlethat was good I liked that okay what about you Alice oh goodness yes I [Music] have I have definitely had some like career highlights where I'm like that's

Alice Littleit this is the moment that I don't think it gets any better than getting paid six figures to take a man through a seven

Alice Littlelayers of Hell fantasy that was scripted over 24 hours with multiple costume changes we're talking fire effects we're

Alice Littletalking leathery Wings we're talking like soundtracks like this thing was curated and scripted and when I tell you all I had to do was put my hand can you

Alice Littleplease not do a Roman salute please on that man's body and he just immediately boom came I was like that that's all it took it was just hours upon hours of

Alice Littletorture and tease and lead up and I did not have to so much as put my hand around him and he was just KO I'm like that's it career highlight I don't know

Alice Littlelove that sounds like a lot of work yeah sex work is work it is work it is it's fun work though my body is

Brian Atlasaffected we have I got some more notes Here we have I loved it I thought that was fun we got we got something here from from Annie here so uh let's see um

Brian Atlasyou said that you told your boyfriend that you were dating that you weren't willing to have sex with him unless you were married first and that's now your current husband is that correct yes so you guys didn't have sex until you got

Brian Atlasmarried correct so how how long had you guys been uh dating our first official date was October 25th 2008 okay but we were

Annie Loberttalking to each other through uh Myspace before and on the phone quite a bit I saw him play his guitar on the for the first time February 2nd 2008 that's so C and then I know I remember all the dates yeah when did yall get married and then

Annie Loberthe asked me to marry him on February 14th Valentine's Day the next year but he was this so cute I love it he was fly uh driving back and forth from California to Las

Annie LobertVegas cuz I was living in Vegas and I was the destiny House mom I was living there taking care of the beautiful ladies and their their babies and we were dating during that time so he got to see me be a mom to these beautiful

Annie Lobertchildren of these beautiful ladies that I was helping and then when we got married it was like the tip of the iceberg we decided to do this but when I first met him the first night I had a

Annie Lobertring on replacing this one obviously it said on it true love waights around the band and I put it in his face and I said I just want you to know that I even though you've read my story am not easy

Annie Lobertfor you you're not going to get what you want from me at all I want everything and if you don't want that our relationship is off the table that's right make him pay in loyalty yeah I

Brian Atlasdidn't want to be with him unless literally so you said your I mean previously you said your body count was like 30,000 plus yeah but your husband

Mercedeshe had to wait until marriage yes I know he's a very very patient but she was also in a different state you have to understand she was in just

Mercedescompletely oh don't you dare oh my goodness she was in a different state she was in a different space no sure again just it's so women

Mercedescan understand their value I didn't understand my value until after sex work I didn't understand my standards until after sex work you know what I mean when you're in it sometimes it's easy to get lost in the sauce I don't know I

Olivia Bentleyalmost feel like sacri work has my personal experience everyone's personal right right that's why it's harder to I'm not just going to settle with anybody people are constantly hey would

Alice Littleyou consider would you consider dating you know and and I will and I will you know but it the standard is so incredbly high really high I mean I appreciate what you were saying that you're so

Alice Littlepicky about who do you want to be with longterm because it is so much better to be picky and to have 10 15 20 first dates and realize right then and there

Alice Littlethat person's not a good fit for you and find that out from the GetGo then to start pursuing all of these relationships that are only going to end in a whole bunch of hurt feelings and

Olivia Bentleynot a lot of good quality connection we learn more about ourselves as we date others mhm and interact that's just humans in general yeah it's a good learning opportunity modest

SPEAKER_06hikima donated $100 Q4 at push in Hammer rabi code which also supports slavery what happens when the goats die in 15 years do you

SPEAKER_06harvest and collect all resources children better investment since meaningful to L8 that's a lot of good meat if they

Alice Littledie as a hunter I'm like that's some good stuff old old old's not very good probably a little tougher but raising meat animals I'm raising a fiber goats

Alice Littleand dairy goats so it's like milk and hair so it's like you shear them kind of like you shear sheep so I mean you don't really eat dairy goats that you can't get milk from them well eventually

Brian Atlasthey're going to die yeah I mean all things you said most happy way possible all things die I mean like again it would really depend we don't need to linger too long

Brian Atlasthe goats or whatever more ridiculous just on just on Annie's thing um I mean I certainly think it's good that you chose to start moving differently in

Brian Atlasyour life but just like from a dating perspective if I for example and I know you're kind of an outlier in the sense that you've had like you you know your body count you said was over

Brian Atlas30,000 um but if I was interacting with a woman and she told me well the I had previously hooked up with 20 guys and I hooked up with them on the first night

Brian Atlasbut now for you I want to wait until marriage first off I would just say of course it's 100% her call like if she wants to wait that's that's her call but I'm also I feel men in general are

Brian Atlaswithin their right to to some degree feel like that's kind of you're you're getting different treatment and and if your husband was cool with it that's totally cool respect

Brian Atlasit but me personally I think a lot of men would feel in that situation like there that we were getting treated with two different standards it's not fair right it it feels a little unfair like

Brian Atlascuz I I've heard this from a lot of women it's like well the jerks the the [ __ ] boys I don't really care about them so I'll just [ __ ] them right away but the guy I actually want to pursue for a relationship that's the guy you make

Brian Atlasweight and and logically it would occur to me that wouldn't you want to almost reward the guy that you actually care about and want a long-term relationship with instead of withholding holding sex

Brian Atlasand using it as a as a uh sort of negotiating tool something pychological reason behind that yeah I did and I stopped myself I wanted him to alope

Annie Lobertwith me and not tell anyone cuz I was so horny I'm just being honest and I wanted to feel his love for me also in that

Annie Lobertrespect because when I I wanted to feel sex as a love move instead of a body move like it was really A Soulful thing to do

Annie Lobert100% of me with him and the only way I could do that was to stop myself from possibly treating him like an object wow

Annie Lobertwow because I had done it for so long that was good I had done it for so long every man was an object to me I had switched it so much to where I was in

Annie Lobertsuch the power seat that now I had it so Twisted that I was a princess queen not the other way around right sure so

Annie Lobertputting a value on myself and that respect helped me heal on a better level and to see him accept that and say I can f with her okay because that girl knows

Annie Lobertwho she is yeah and I and that that makes me he he was very turned on by that actually yeah he told me sure and I I think I do he didn't say the f word by the way I said that yeah and I do think

Brian Atlaswomen are in this sort of damned if you do damned if you don't position where on one hand let's say you acknowledge like oh yeah previously like I just hooked up with guys too quickly I want to change how I move when it comes to

Brian Atlasrelationships like it's tough because obviously it's like well it's like what do you expect Brian do you expect women to just a [ __ ] grid

SPEAKER_06One Motorsports donated $100 as an old retired dude I can only say I am so glad I never had to spend 4

SPEAKER_06hours My Chosen career and trying to feel better about myself my magnum opus is being a faithful husband thank good thank you're good one

Brian Atlasyeah I mean obviously it's like well if you're choosing to move in a different way like yeah that's probably better than continuing to just engage in casual sex or the hookup culture but I if I

Brian Atlasencountered a woman who's like yeah the I the last 20 guys I hooked up with it was all the first night but now I've come along now I want to wait till marriage I feel kind of like duped again it's her call like I'm not going to like

Annie Loberttry to so how hard would your love Pursuit be then how long would my what how hard would your love Pursuit be How Deep Is Your Love how de yeah yeah one

Laurenof my favorite songs too I love it I it's just like uh I would feel like uh it's a bit of fraud little fraud control I don't have that good

Mason Gregoireself control not with Annie like I think she yeah yeah I I think you have like you had to you processed through all of like you've been processing through all of what you've done in your life and it's it's been a struggle obviously but

Annie Loberthas brought you closer it's brought you closer to the Lord so like Jesus was my first love by the way I'm not kidding you I love with him first to realize how a man was supposed to treat me I think

Mason Gregoirethat's essential yeah so that was my model he was my model yeah that is 100% valid so yeah I think it's important that oh God what the what was the point

Brian AtlasI was going to make I can come in I can come in um so when it comes to being FR and we we've previously reacted here's where it's like perhaps an issue if a girl is making you wait

Brian Atlasbut like all the while she has a friends with benefits but she's making you wait I think that's 100% a fraud that's a fraud and I guess the whole and I've written this down just so I can be

Brian Atlasconcise so the whole point of a woman having a waiting period before she has sex is supposed to be due to her not being someone that gives away sex so

Brian Atlaseasily so having a man wait implies I'm not easy to get into bed but for a woman like who might have a friends with benefits while she's making you wait it

Brian Atlasjust means I'm going to make you wait in arbitrary amount of time because I want to give you the impression that I'm not quick to give out sex but in actuality I

Brian Atlasam just not for you gotcha when that's happening Co cical Reon yeah and so wanting to build something slowly is pointless if the woman is willing to

Brian Atlasgive out sex to another man who did not need to give her commitment so it just kind of shows that she think I think it shows that she thinks very little of the man she wants to make weight I that

Alice Littleherself well I mean really it's like putting up fake barriers in the same way that you're saying that there's like a psychological reason behind why someone is choosing to respond in that way it's that she's tricked herself into believing that oh if I withhold this

Alice Littlefrom him it's somehow going to mean that he's going to want me more or desire me more that he's somehow going to be more committed to me we should get is your husband vulner he's in the parking lot maybe we should you think he might be we

Brian Atlashe would love to well not not quite I just want to make sure we can get through everything and if time for admitting maybe we can he'll explain that could be that could be wait let me ask the chat let me ask the chat what they think Nick if you can

Brian Atlaspull up the chat chat so her husband is uh is downstairs we could have him up in the studio within a couple minutes would you guys be interested in hearing from

Brian Atlasher husband that could be pretty interesting I think yeah um but before we do that just because I have notes on all the girls here I want to just make sure we can get through all the notes on

Brian Atlason every say bring them yeah this is say bring okay we we'll get to it um we'll get to it maybe in 30 minutes you're heavy yeses yeah uh let's see here let's

Brian Atlassee he said I'm here okay maybe we'll we'll snag him in a little bit but uh woo there's a lot of things I want to try to get through let's pull up Olivia's news article really quick if you can pull up her news article this is

Brian Atlaswe pulled this up on your previous show I'm a sex therapist I sleep with clients to save marriages and I think this was a big point of contention

Brian Atlasbetween Candace and you yeah um you you save the marriages by having sex with

Olivia Bentleythe couple magnum opus yeah um you know some couples come for different reasons um yeah i' I've helped a lot of people

Olivia Bentleybut I never said hey I'm a sex therapist because that's not I never said that that that's kind of where the tabloids went to make it clickable so now I've got to put a disclaimer on it but now

Olivia Bentleypeople are coming for more and more nonsexual reasons to talk things out sure um and that's okay you know that's okay too I see but I've worked with

Olivia Bentleypeople for a variety of reasons and and the the gal that wrote that story really liked the couples aspect which is fine I mean I I love couples but I I see people

Brian Atlasfor a a gazillion reasons gazillion reasons you know some of it's entertainment some of it really is therapeutic reasons gotcha um well we don't need to linger too long on the

Brian Atlasarticle but you and Candace went back and forth there was apparently a Twitter post that you made that she really focused on a little bit uh something about

Brian AtlasBBC oh big big black yeah what was it what did you make a post on Twitter about BBC what what was that what did you say what did you say

Olivia Bentleywhen I decided to do only fans um you know I started doing porn just just recently cuz the Bunny Ranch stopped marketing all together so I started doing that for myself it kind of a show

Olivia Bentleywhat you know and it started bringing more inperson sessions in and a lot of people kept saying I want to see you with with an African-American I've not seen that and I said okay okay so I got

Olivia Bentleythat going and and so I I'm kind of going back the other way cuz I always used to kind of advertise myself as more of a GFE and then and then if you want to see me in more of a porn star light

Olivia Bentleygo to my only fans but but I would put stuff on my Twitter as other porn stars do you just give little teasers and they go on over yeah and so she was just focusing hey you know you've got a dick

Olivia Bentleyin your mouth you got you know I mean that was just her focal point to say you know you shouldn't be doing that you shouldn't be putting that on Twitter that was a shame on you but it was it's wildly popular um people want to see me

Olivia Bentleywith with African-Americans and they like seeing me outdoors in in public sex scenes I'm I'm just looking at the analytics of what people like interesting okay all right we got

Brian AtlasMercedes here ex strip returned coach sensual healer you say uh you help women reclaim their experience and live a spicy life MH and I think we already covered it you said all women are sex

Mercedesworkers yeah I disagree that's okay disagree disavow that's cuz you don't understand energetics and that's okay you're right I truly ignorant well no I'm not saying you're ignorant I don't

Madisonthink that you understand energetics energetics entics are you talking about like that Sexual Energy that you were just I don't think that you understand energetics right I mean to press that

Laurenand that's okay energet I don't know what energetics area is I got to send him the sad Guru video when he talks about it well I mean there's it it I mean we could go down Guru s Guru has

Mercedesa little video that talks about exactly the same thing but only it's within 5 minutes and he explains but he talks about like when you awaken it if you're not ready to awaken the calini I had a spontaneous Kundalini Awakening and it

Mercedeswas [ __ ] nuts I legit moved to Colorado because of it and it was it was crazy but anyways okay all right um You said here that you were in a poly

Brian Atlasrelationship you met your partner in the strip club yeah um you him and another ex or ax lived together and then you got

Mercedespregnant pregnant by my baby dad while in the poly relationship so I wasn't okay so I was in a relationship with my partner we moved to Los Angeles together

Mercedesand we were like in a pretty open relationship for my own like Kink reasons but that's neither here nor there we were in an open relationship I met my daughter's father at the strip

Mercedesclub and then we started dating within 2 months I got pregnant and then at the time rent was so freaking expensive so he moved in and they both basically just

Mercedeshandled everything but my my older partner it's like I hate saying Polly but I didn't even know it was Polly until recently when someone was like that's a poly relationship because I was like well we weren't having sex like me

Mercedesand my my ex weren't having sex for months but it was a really deep emotional connection and we still have a deep emotional connection wait so okay I

Brian Atlasyou were you were in a poly relationship and you met your now current was in a relationship right and oh that's cuz you said the 13 okay yeah yeah yeah and then

MercedesI met my partner and then and you guys all lived together and then he moved in with me and my my boyfriend or my ex-boyfriend obviously you got pregnant two months into knowing my baby dad be careful what you say what do you mean

Brian Atlasdon't just I'm saying just don't don't go saying anything about him no but I I I'm curious like um were like when you got pregnant were you still Paulie no I

Mercedesthink you're misunderstanding I was in a relationship with one person yeah then I went to work one night I met my daughter's father so then that relationship with one person turned into relationship with two people oh right MH

Mercedesand then I got pregnant by my daughter's father so he moved in and me and my ex once I met um my daughter's father we stopped all

Mercedesintimacy like we me and him have not had any sexual in intimacy even for months before I met my daughter's father oh okay but we were emotionally like very very very emotionally monogamous was it

Mercedeswas it like a dead bedroom type of thing or like a what dead bedroom like you know like a a dead bedroom where you don't have sex anymore with your oh yeah like there was so we we had I was

Mercedesstripping so I do think that sex Works sex work can impact relationships negatively and I think that's just kind of what happened in that relationship I had a question yeah for you but when

Laurenyou're done is for you cuz I was you know he he said that he was a virgin and and and you like you had that restraint to not have sex with your husband immedi immediately and then I'll I'll let you finish your story so I don't like take

Laurenover but I I just wanted to ask a question because I'm like dang that's so good of restraint cuz I'm yeah I think that sex work definitely um uh tainted our relationship because I was so open

Mercedesand then I would like you know be like oh I'll bring girls home and like I kind of gave him that pass to be um disloyal to me and it's so crazy because we had

Mercedessuch an open relationship my partner now is like so traditional like so we like literally cry about Jesus together like

Mercedeshe is so opposite but he's also like not um it's just so polar opposite but yeah I it's I've seen both ends of like having a partner in sex work but

Brian Atlasultimately the partner I have now helped me exit sex work wait just a question your current partner is that the that's the baby dad okay I see I see um you also said you wanted to talk about shout

Brian Atlasout satri is by the way um let's see you said you also wanted to talk about why women in the sex industry choose [ __ ] Partners yes you said you could go off oh I could go off on

Mercedesthat okay you from New York I am from New York yeah okay wait you should have shellacked on my East Coast comes out a lot put on the accent a little you could hear it when I say like sauces like stuff like that

Mercedesor all when I say all what part of New York I'm from Connecticut actually but I live in New York temporarily yeah um go off on that okay I'll be right back so women who are in the sex industry

Mercedeseverything's a mirror so everything in our reality oh my God and I hate saying this because of twinflame universe or whatever it is that just came out but everything in our experience truly is a

Mercedesmirror so a lot of the times we attract Partners who are just like us while we're in the sex industry MH and so when you're in the sex industry a lot of the time not all the time but a lot of the

Mercedestime you are leading from your misaligned underdeveloped masculine energy so you attract a partner who's leading from his misaligned underdeveloped masculine energy and it's

Mercedesa mirror so it creates all of this friction all of this trigger if you if you have two Cubs who are like not fully matured what's going to happen if you put them together they're going to fight so this this is literally the dynamic

Mercedesyou see in sex where workers with Partners not all the time I feel like it is possible to have like healthy relationships in sex work but a lot of the time you see women who are choosing

Mercedesmen who are um using them financially who are uh verbally abusive physically abusive and it's it's literally just a mirror of and I'm I'm being mindful with

Mercedesmy wording cuz it's not to say it's like it's all your fault but it is a mirror of what you're embodied in in that moment you know what I mean so order for you to attract I mean this is just laws

Mason Gregoireof physics you know what I mean you attract what you are you know would you say that uh me yeah I agree with that sentiment um

Mason Gregoirewould you say that uh for a man to be able to rationalize with himself to be with a sex worker he would have to be

Mason Gregoirelike he would have to in his masculine more than you like he would have like so yes so typically in those Rel relationships uh if since sex work is a

Mercedeslot more masculine it's it's very masculine and it's rooted in the doe and survival based energy so you're meeting a partner 90% of the time that's also in

Mason Gregoirehis due and survival based energy yeah so yeah I I would agree with that um so it's typically you got to find a man who is so as a feminine you don't find a man

Mason Gregoireyou magnetize so you allow the mascul to meet you it's you ATT the man the men who are have to be more masculine than you are so women who are more feminine

Mercedeswhat you're speaking to what you're speaking to is actually a is a power Dynamic so it's it's less of a power Dynamic and more of a is this someone I can feel safe because safety is really

Mercedesimportant for the feminine being witnessed is extremely important for the feminine and being held and and meeting a masculine that can actually just be an anchor correct for the feminine so yeah finding a man who is more masculine than

Mercedesyourself that can make you feel feminine sure if you want to if you yes if you want to call it like that way so for me like even with my ex the the thing why we were so attached is because I felt so safe even though like we were cheating

Mercedeson each other Etc he had a way of holding space for my feminine that just made me feel so safe so anchored in my

Mercedesexperience and then my partner it's like he he now is um accessing that part of himself like he's now and that's because

Mercedesof his own [ __ ] his own trauma that he had to navigate through his own you know wound with the femin like all of that you know so I think that it's possible I met my partner in the strip club I was

Mercedesalready I already started doing work on myself when I met my partner in the strip club you know what I mean and that's why I do what I do with helping women who are like transitioning out who are in to help them understand that they

Mercedesdon't have to be a product of their environment that they can use it as a stepping stone to attract whatever the [ __ ] they want because we literally can have anything like the possibilities are

Laurenendless I had a question for you you and you and and this was because now like we've had this conversation I I'm like now starting to like something just you know dawned upon me um I don't feel

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