2 Escorts RAGE QUIT?! Husband CRASHES Show?! Body Count OVER 9,000?! | Dating Talk #119

Date: 2023-11-20

Duration: 4h 58m

Guests

Brian Atlas

OOlivia Bentley >

LLauren (Brothel)>

AAnnie Lobert >

AAlice Little >

MMadison (DT119)>

MMason Gregoire >

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00TTS/Audience(audience)

SPEAKER_01Oz Fox(guest)

SPEAKER_02Mercedes(guest)

SPEAKER_03Annie Lobert(guest)

SPEAKER_05Olivia Bentley(guest)

SPEAKER_07Alice Little(guest)

SPEAKER_08Mason Gregoire(guest)

SPEAKER_09Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_10Madison(guest)

SPEAKER_11Lauren(guest)

Key Moments

IntroShow intro and all guest introductions. Panel: Olivia Bentley (46, courtesan), Lauren (31, Moonlight Bunny Ranch), Annie Lobert (56, Hookers for Jesus CEO), Mercedes (33, ex-stripper/life coach), Alice Little (33, legal sex worker), Madison (18, student), Mason Gregoire (27, mechanical engineer/Christian virgin).

IntroOlivia Bentley introduces herself: age 46, professional intimacy provider and porn star, independent courtesan.

“hey Brian I am Olivia Bentley I am 46 I am a professional intimacy provider and I am also a porn star”

IntroLauren introduces herself: age 31, courtesan at Moonlight Bunny Ranch, also a musician and PR for musicians.

“hi I'm Lauren roses I am 31 I am a cortison at the moonlight bunny ranch and I'm also a musician”

IntroAnnie Lobert introduces herself: CEO of Hookers for Jesus, operates 2 safe houses for women formerly abused by the adult entertainment industry.

“my name is Annie lar and I am the CEO of hookers for Jesus pink chair”

IntroMercedes introduces herself: age 33, ex-stripper and sex worker turned spirit-led pleasure-based life coach and sensual healer.

“my name's Mercedes otano I'm an ex stripper and sex worker turned spirit-led pleasure-based life coach and sensual healer”

IntroAlice Little introduces herself: age 33, legal sex worker, sex educator, and intimacy expert.

“my name is Alice little I am a legal sex worker sex educator and intimacy expert and I'm 33 years old”

IntroMason Gregoire introduces himself: age 27, mechanical engineer, content creator, competitive powerlifter, and devout Christian.

“my name is Mason greguar I am a uh I got crap for saying this last time but I'll say it again I am foremost a follower of Christ um mechanical engineer content creator competitive powerlifter”

ControversyOlivia Bentley recounts appearing on Candace Owens' show. She went expecting an Oxford-style debate on sex work legalization but faced personal attacks about her son. Describes it as a 'gotcha interview'.

Key MomentOlivia calls Mason Gregoire a 'misogynist', then walks it back to 'mansplainer', then to just disagreeing with his values. Brian repeatedly presses for a definition of misogyny; Olivia struggles to articulate a specific behavior.

“Olivia says that you're a misogynist / I would say that anybody that... men that diss and hate women for their being”

Key MomentMason cites fall of Greek, Roman, and Babylonian empires as correlated with breakdown of nuclear family/traditional marriage. Alice rebuts by citing Hammurabi Code which protected sex workers from the beginning of civilization.

QuoteMason states: 'as we see the relationship between a husband and a wife has been deteriorated and destroyed we've seen societies fail' — citing Greek, Roman, Babylonian empires as historical examples.

“the pillar of the nuclear family of traditional relationships has been taken out in those societies that is when they fail”

QuoteLauren recounts her 'magnum opus': a client came to the ranch intending to commit a mass shooting if rejected. Lauren took him in fully, he cried and said thank you. Mercedes: 'You stopped a potential mass shooting, yes, with your [vagina].'

“I was about to do something really really stupid what the H and he got and he said I'm so happy... he was going to go on a ramp”

Key MomentDiscussion of Annie waiting until marriage for sex with Oz despite a professional body count of ~30,000. Brian questions whether making a new partner wait after sleeping with others quickly is 'a bit of a fraud'.

“your body count was like 30,000 plus yeah but your husband he had to wait until marriage yes”

IntroOz Fox (Stryper lead guitarist, Annie's husband) joins the show unexpectedly from the parking lot. Introduces himself as married to Annie, original Stryper member since 1983.

“I'm Oz Fox uh married to Annie Annie's husband okay and uh we've been married for 15 years I've been in striper the Christian 80s hair metal band”

ControversyOlivia Bentley and Alice Little leave the show mid-episode without explicit explanation. Brian: 'they actually did, they left.'

“did they leave both in the bathroom they're both in the bathroom... they actually did they left”

Key MomentOz Fox discusses meeting Annie on MySpace (2007), Stryper's history, playing KISS Cruise, wearing makeup as stage makeup (not cross-dressing), and his previous 20-year marriage before Annie.

OtherBrian plays two TikTok videos of a woman claiming she would embarrass Brian if she came on the podcast. Brian explains she was invited but blocked them after two months of dodging.

QuoteTTS donation reads: 'all women are sex workers' — prompts laughter from the panel.

“all women are sex workers”

Topics Discussed

Show intro and guest introductions

Brian introduces show format; each guest states name, age, occupation. Panel focuses on sex work industry.

Olivia's Candace Owens appearance

Olivia describes Candace Owens show as a 'gotcha interview'; she expected Oxford-style debate on sex work legalization but faced personal questions about her son.

Relationship status round

All guests share current relationship status, longest relationship, and time single.

Annie's backstory and meeting Oz Fox

Annie recounts her history as a call girl, pimp relationships, overdose in 2003, and meeting Oz Fox via MySpace in 2007.

Advice to women entering sex work

Each guest answers what advice they'd give a young woman considering entering the escort industry.

Client counts / professional body counts

Guests discuss total number of professional clients. Annie: ~30,000; Alice: 3,000-5,000+; Olivia: 2,000-3,000; Lauren: ~1,000-1,100; Mercedes: under 20.

Religion, virginity, and sex work ethics

Extended debate between Mason Gregoire (Christian virgin) and the sex workers on sin, redemption, Bible, misogyny. Includes aliens/Bible tangent.

Historical context of sex work

Alice Little argues sex work has existed since dawn of civilization (Hammurabi Code, Wild West expansion). Mason argues societal harm from breakdown of nuclear family.

Sex work statistics and harm/benefit debate

Mason cites history (Greek/Roman/Babylonian empires) as evidence family unit degradation leads to societal collapse. Alice and Olivia counter with historical presence of sex work.

Magnum opus / best professional experiences

Guests describe their most memorable or impactful professional encounter. Includes Lauren's story of preventing a potential mass shooting; Olivia's erectile dysfunction cure; Alice's scripted 24-hour fantasy.

Annie's marriage and waiting until marriage

Annie describes meeting Oz Fox, first date, waiting until marriage for sex despite her past. Discussion of whether making a new partner wait is fraudulent if she slept with others quickly.

Olivia's New York Post article / BBC tweet controversy

Brian pulls up Olivia's New York Post article about saving marriages. Olivia clarifies she never claimed to be a sex therapist; media framing. Discussion of BBC OnlyFans content and Candace Owens' focus on it.

Mercedes: relationship dynamics and sex work

Mercedes explains her poly relationship history, meeting her baby's father at the strip club, and theory about sex workers attracting misaligned masculine energy.

Porn is not cheating / ethical porn debate

Alice argues porn is not cheating; women shouldn't compare themselves to porn stars. Brian says preference to not watch porn is valid if communicated.

Oz Fox arrives mid-show

Annie's husband Oz Fox (Stryper lead guitarist) joins the show from the parking lot. Discusses meeting Annie, Stryper history, tours, KISS Cruise appearance, his second marriage.

Olivia and Alice leave the show

Brian discovers Olivia and Alice have left the studio mid-show ('they actually did, they left'). No explanation given on air.

Reaction to TikTok critic video

Brian reacts to two TikTok videos from a woman who claimed she would make Brian look dumb but then blocked the show when invited. Mercedes, Lauren, and remaining guests comment.

Closing and final thoughts

Guests give final thoughts. Oz Fox sings a snippet of 'Let It Be'. Brian wraps up the show.

Transcript

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Laurenwalking like on the street so I would be walking like around the corner or anything or kind of going into in and out of like 7el or something and uh they'd walk and say hey where you going

LaurenI like I I don't know what you know what what where are you going and then you know I and then they'd say oh well you know we're going back to Buddy's place I was like okay what do you do like you know and try to vet them and then

Laurenthey're like oh well you know would you like to come up and I you know and then that would be how it would go and then sometimes I'd go into strip clubs and I would sit in the strip club and like

Mercedesdressed up like as like in in a really nice like outfit and they were like oh do you work here and I'd be like I used to and oh wow pull out I banned from a club for doing that that's cor

Laurencontroversy with strippers and esorts coming in it causes a lot of fights chaos yeah I had uh left with like a couple guys and I think the club was starting to recognize it and so they I

Laurensaw the owner just kind of lurking and I was like I better stop and and then I would go into my strip club yeah it turned out when I was dancing I would go into my strip club and I would go with

Laurenthe intent of pulling someone out within an hour that's like I would yeah I would do that too but but then I was just like oh but then that's what led to the like Behind Enemy Lines type of [ __ ] yeah and the trench coat I I would always wear

Brian Atlasthe trench coat trench coat okay so you'd be walking down the was it like a specific Street and you said downtown San Diego downtown right by the bars and so but like when the the guys would come

Brian Atlasup to you and so did they assume they knew that you were I think they were just trying to be friendly they were just hitting on what point in the conversation would you be like by the way I charge x amount um well so they'd

Laurenbe like where they they would first say where are you going and I was like oh I'm just you know I don't know it might be headed home and then where are you going and then they'd they'd be like oh well if if you want to and I was like I don't know and they'd be like I'll take

Mercedescare of you like usually they would say something the not to interrupt but it's when I moved to Los Angeles I was like shocked at the level of prostitution

Mercedesthat was happening because where I came from it was like very looked down upon to escort if you were dancing and whatnot when I came like you'd be surprised at how many people just know like it's so normalized it's wild okay I

Brian Atlasthink it just had the vi because like but at least for your situation I mean if you're in these environments like you said you'd go out in The Nightlife District or whatever like it's an expectation almost like people just know that there's going to be hookers there

Laurenoh and I think like I looked at him too like I'd look at him a certain way and then they'd be like yeah i' like show me the look ooh like I I can't do it on look for this camera right here I think

Laureneveryone's an escort though that's no this camera this camera oh that camera like I don't know i' look at him a certain way I Tri a little I I I tried to just lock him in like you know like because like but if you're out in like a nightlife

LaurenDistrict couldn't these guys just be coming up to you and not know you're pros and they're just hitting on you they could and then and so I would deny them once so so you deny them once and then after you deny them they'd try to

Laurenbe like oh why are you sure yeah I don't know what if I you know took care of you a little bit and then that's when I knew that oh they would say that yeah so you you knock them down it would never occur to me if I'm like trying to hit on a

Mercedesgirl and I don't know well then then you'll meet people who like it's not a thing and so like you'll you'll proposition them and they'll be like what the hell or then I've never I've been propositioned before and

MercedesI'm like what the hell like that's what happened to me when I first moved to LA I was like what the [ __ ] I'm like oh sorry I don't know if I fine but I'm like I don't know I'm like I'm not this like I'm not an escort you know it's

Laurenvery very very normalized like uncomfortably normalized okay I see it so you've never done like the car comes up thing no cuz I I didn't want to get trapped in a car with someone I I've had

Laurencars but where would you go then we've all watched monsters oh they would we go to a hotel I'd say can you book a hotel room and they say yeah and then they'd book it really quick and then they would do it and these were in my my Wilder

Brian Atlasdays Wilder days when rocket roll so how does that conversation look like okay some dude walks up he knows you're you're an escort

Mercedesyeah um I'd be like they how what's the are you are you the guy or are you a she just told you the it's like you

Laurengot to pay pay to play oh no he I would just say okay well I mean he would he would pretty much proposition he'd say oh well if I take care of you and I'm like you know you got X we could do for x amount if you get a hotel and he'd be like all right

Laurenand just book it right there on on his phone and then we'd walk up together I'd see and then I'd leave okay gotcha and did have you two done any I've never no what about I have the first time I ever

Annie Lobertgot paid okay my girlfriend flew me to Hawaii and it's very known there I don't know if it is right now there's street that everybody walks and it used

Annie Lobertto just be it would be regular girls like me just young girls and then there was a lot of I don't want to use the wrong word you guys well if they're not regular girls what are they I mean I

Annie Lobertcall them vanilla they they were they were sex workers but they I don't like to say that word either it's okay oh you guys this is really hard okay they were men dressed as

Annie Lobertfemales I don't want to say it offend a lot of people but we we called them [ __ ] okay and so back in the day there was a major competition

Annie Loberttoo by the way but I only did that for about two weeks because I never jumped in a car MH so that that would have freaked me out car no cars we would just

Annie Lobertmeet Japanese men and we we would say ikim and they would get you know their

Annie Loberthotel it means would you come and play with me come you know let's go and so that I learned

Annie Loberthow to speak Japanese and we would not go with white guys oh any other race but I know this sounds so bad you guys but

Annie Lobertonly Japanese men only the Japanese makes perfect sense they were the safest this is the way I was taught by the people that I knew back then my girlfriend my best friend her her girl that turned her out that was the way the

Annie Lobertclientele were because they had a lot of money it was the 80s who the 80s we as United States were doing really really well in the late '

Annie Lobert80s so the Japanese men had a lot lot of money the first date I ever turned was with my girlfriend and I

Annie Lobertliterally took my clothes off and the guy was done I was like okay that's why I got hooked into sex work because you're like oh you know 500 bucks there

Annie Lobertwas no agency fee and I was like this is is way too easy cuz I was making $347 an hour you know at my normal job and I'm

Brian Atlaslike this is not compete at all this is a noer I'm can we do an inflation check what was 500 in the 80s double dou did you adjust for back double double so

Annie Lobertyou're making 500 back then a th000 it would be okay and it was so tempting to just stay in that space so I did they pay in Yen ever was yeah a lot and we would we would know what the Yen was so

Annie Lobertfor 100 typically it was 100,000 Yen okay wow interesting so 1 million yen was like a th000 you know during the rates gotta but it was you guys it was so and I don't know about any of you

Annie Lobertladies uh your thoughts because for me I'm just going to be blunt and honest I was after the money bottom line dollar dollar make me holla that's all it was

Annie Lobertat that time like you are a man that is dumb enough to pay for sex this is what my thoughts were cuz I was really mangry at men back then I remember we talked about this last time Brian I was so like

Annie Lobertembittered towards men so I was like if I can charge them yes de is happening right now and it yes it was empowering

Annie Lobertyeah and I felt really like actually made me happy to be able to control MH men's Pockets with my looks yeah it was very addicting it's it's a for me I

Laurenwanted the sex and I wanted like the intimacy like I I was an infomaniac too I I wanted like to be I I didn't feel safe like in my Waking Life and I felt like when I was intimate with someone I felt really safe and and

LaurenI was like oh this is comforting but then there's also money which helps me out so I would kind of like linger a little while when I'd see them and then I'd be like all right well I better get going like you know call me yeah yeah

Laurenand and then my coach is going off yeah like what you're actually we seeking was safety yeah safy I would spend the night sometimes at their at their places cuz I just didn't I just I wanted to be with

Mason Gregoirethem I was like I feel safe here I'm getting fed I'm I'm you know this is nice you know so I guess I have I have a question do you so in the sex work

Mercedesindustry do you see it as like an empowering thing absolutely yes it's a form of Shadow work it's it's a way for women that you have to understand a lot

Mercedesof like sex workers Shadow work I would say legal sex work legal what is Shadow work Shadow work is so it's basically say you have a disempowering like childhood like something really

Mercedestraumatic happens to you um you start forming all these beliefs in your subconscious mind and that's what ends up leading you in your adult life so for me like I have an extremely traumatic

Mercedeschildhood I know that majority of the sex workers that I work with have really traumatic childhood so they they go to sex work as a way to actually re-empower themselves from what happened to them

Mercedeswhen they were children um just cuz like they they weren't valued by their parents like it's a lot of things so like for her case can I use as so for

Mercedesher case it's safety so she was she had this underlying desire of safety we'd obviously have to go into a session pick your brain and like understand where this sensation of like not feeling safe

Mercedescame from but for her she was using sex work as a tool to create safety in her adult life because that was something

SPEAKER_06that um is like a wound within her for me man I just finished watching the last three episodes

SPEAKER_06116 117 and 118 this is for your ability to put up with all the BS that was said God I'd cow some of those girls even still alive

Brian Atlasyeah uh yeah the last couple episodes were definitely pretty uh interesting shows uh thank you swordless appreciate it man yeah that's why I had to hire this U masseuse to uh you know help help

Brian Atlaswith the stress the shows been so stressful yeah okay um let me see oh I had a question um did you want to finish your thing or it was just basically we

Mercedeswe see sex work as a stepping stone I think where it gets muddled and the perception that people see is like all of the the negative you know what I mean and they don't see how it actually can

Mercedesbe the stepping stone like I was saying like to for me to to God and to re-empower yourself um I think that women just get stuck in it too long sure so they don't know when to like or they

Madisondon't change they don't evolve they don't evolve probably even weigh in on the empowerment yeah I kind of wanted to ask um how you got involved sorry we

SPEAKER_06have to wait for this first selling sex is not empowering men get to have you for money very delusional to think otherwise the attempt to spin such

Mason Gregoiredebauchery in a positive light is madness so this this kind of gets to the point I wanted to make yeah um um do you so as you're participating

Mason Gregoireparticipating in sex work say it's empowering it's creating this safe space uh maybe it's I I don't know I mean obviously I'm not in that I've never

Mason Gregoirebeen in that space um do you really see that all you can not all you can offer but what you offer right then and there

Mason Gregoirein this uh very intimate setting you're providing a very close connection with somebody that maybe you've known for a little while maybe it's the first time

Mason Gregoirewhatever do you really see that as like you you can put a monetary value on that and say that it's empowering why not put a monetary value on that we pay for

Alice Littletherapy we pay for doctors we've pay for all sorts of professional expertise in our industry M why not pay a sex worker who knows what they're doing absolutely

Olivia Bentleyyeah no I I understand my clients worship me when when these clients come in these men are just so enamored and so gracious

Olivia Bentleyand so happy to have our company and it is a win-win one strung my guitar the other day this is the most stereotypical panel daddy didn't love me enough

SPEAKER_06getting arrested for assault instead of sex closeted Christian man he's a real he's a real one force

Mercedesbecause he won't pay for dates um all right the short answer is I I don't think you could put a number on our value and I think that value is is

Mercedesimmeasurable like all of us are intrinsically valuable so you can't put a number on that but I think that there's a difference between value and a service you know what I mean I guess so

Mason GregoireI I I mean this is my opinion and I think this Bears out in the science uh there I would say there is no value

Mason Gregoirebeing added and let me let me reinforce that so in the ability for somebody to bond with somebody else so in a sexual

Mason Gregoireum relationship the more sexual partners you have the less likely you are able to bond with that other person actually there was a study that was done that showed that what is it after 20 Partners

Mason Gregoireyou are 16 times more likely to get divorced what study with this yeah please please do tell I can't remember the there's also

Olivia Bentleystudies that probably prove that wrong yes let's get the foundation you're 27 and you still haven't been able to tie down a

Alice Littlerelationship well he doesn't desire to but that's supposedly yeah I mean I'm extremely picky with who I am going to involve myself with and that's totally okay and there's just as many people who

Alice Littlearen't picky and want have the experience before they get into a relationship so they're a understand there is a desire so I know that people

Mason Gregoirehave the desire I am just simply putting forward the evidence that shows that having multiple sexual sexual partners before marriage hurts your ability to

Mason Gregoirebond with somebody else and I'm not saying that I mean as as a Believer I know that that Christ can he restores the soul so I'm not

Mercedessaying that it's impossible for someone to be redeemed mhm I'm saying that it takes a miracle mhm yeah and we're all possible of having that miracle and and I'm not

Mason Gregoiresaying this in a negative way but it's like I don't think that it's fair to speak to something that you haven't experienced absolutely uh that's that's slightly unfair I can I can sit here and

Mason Gregoiresay that uh certain atrocities in history were wrong and not have experienced them so like I you can take it to either side of the spectrum just because I haven't experienced something

Mason Gregoiredoesn't mean I don't know truth mhm so and I what is true for you in your journey that's that's interesting in your god-given journey but what is my god-given journey it looks a little bit

Mason Gregoiredifferent and it feels a little bit different op okay well so there is only one truth like I can I can say till I'm bleue in the face that gravity doesn't exist but gravity does exist I don't

Mason Gregoirewhat anyone says so there is an objective truth there are Universal constants there are scientific things that are just true so in uh so I believe that the Bible is the foundation for

Mason Gregoiretruth it is where I derive all of my truth from when I when someone says something or when I start pondering things okay what does the Bible say about this if the Bible teaches against

Mason Gregoireit then that is objective truth and I must mold myself to that doesn't the Bible promote prostitution it doesn't it doesn't promote it but the Bible doesn't necessarily it doesn't like I think there's some reject it it

Alice Littledoesn't reject prti I don't even make sense if anything sex workers are exceptional within the context of the Bible work is Mission work sex work is a

Mason Gregoireform of mission work oh that's oh yeah of of mission it's Mission anytime Jesus interacted with prostitutes in the Bible

Mason Gregoireit was he treated them with love but he called them to repent he did you got to rep out of get out of there's no rep got but going back to prior to Let's Talk

MercedesAbout Mary magdaline why did all the kings have we're repented okay but I'm saying we God oh I didn't there's no oh it's in there I brought it to the Candace Owens

Mason Gregoiredebate oh no I I know that there were people in the Bible that were those scriptures I of the horny me love you long time

Mason Gregoirefull metal I don't know what that mean okay so the Bible shows a whole lot of sinful people who are imperfect so it shows a need for a perfect savior so it

Mason Gregoireshows a need for Jesus so there are Testament or new testament that you follow both it is the word of like all of it's the word of God cuz the old

Mason Gregoiretestament's shadowy oh I know it's very Shadow the yeah the the Old Testament shows the need for a perfect savior it

Mason Gregoireshows okay all of these Kings all of these men they are broken they are fallen and they need to be they need to be redeemed none of these guys are perfect none of these guys are going to cut it I have a question I'm not to cut

Mercedesyou off but I just okay there's a statement and then a question the statement is I don't I don't believe that anyone is truly a a

Mercedessinner right I think that we all have this mission like your mission was to be brought up the way that you were our mission this is a part of our mission

Mercedesand and we need to experience this this Darkness okay so that we can understand the light and this is why I'm saying that I feel like a lot of sex workers stay too long and they they go through the darkness but they don't have the the

Mercedescognizance because they're so used to their human patterns they don't have the cognizance of listening to the calling of God within them what do you mean cognizance so they don't have the

Mercedesawareness a lot of the time that that's like okay their human brain tells them like this is safe so can I use you as an example so like it's safe for me to be

Mercedeshere at the end of the day every single human being craves one every being on this planet if you're to run towards a flock of birds what are they going to do fly away they're going to fly away why cuz they don't want to be killed

Mercedesbecause they don't want to be killed they're seeking safety M so every single human being on this planet every being on this planet is seeking safety so if you go into an industry and it creates

Mercedesthis bubble of safety for you why leave it your human brain is always going to choose a familiar hell over an unfamiliar heaven so yeah okay um I

Mason Gregoirewould say and we see this throughout the Bible but it show the Bible tells us multiple places that all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God we all

Mason Gregoirehave yeah yeah and that we are all dead in our trespasses and sins so that is that is what we do that is by nature we are children of Wrath we are people who

Mason Gregoirego against God and it takes God to save us to transform Our Lives to make us more like him it's not something that I can just drum up so no I know that yeah yeah so so and you see that throughout

Mason Gregoirethe Old Testament there are some horrible men wild like they're it's it's it's a wild place it's some rated R stuff hold on just Lauren's typical GTA

SPEAKER_06hook in the life is smash get paid then get batted and money jacked Ryan behind behind you she stole my audio fingers

SPEAKER_06what the [ __ ] # oh Dr Kid the last time when we were Joan amen the argument said by the kind

Brian Atlasgentleman on the panel in the Bible Jesus says to the super weird going on with the TTS uh yo LP thank you very much man yes and I do recall that from

Annie Lobertthe yes it um did you I wanted to say that you know and I want to respect everyone's opinion here I have

Annie Lobertmy experience in the sex industry was in the very beginning empowering but very beautifully the [ __ ] I'd like to hear

Brian Atlasyeah Alice I'd like to hear you too speak up um I met well I have questions do you have something brief cuz I like I just wanted to say that when you're

Annie Lobertreferencing us I mean she's speaking for what she knows I'm going to speak for what I know and what I've experienced and the empowerment part was very limited and

Annie Lobertvery short yeah that's that's kind of what the point I was trying to make and so it's very everyone's experience has been different here at this table and I think that everyone has the I think they

Mason Gregoirehave a right to say yeah no I I agree theyve experienced their context I mean this is this is a very rare situation for me where I can see across from people are that very different than me

Laurenhe real but but you know what makes real makes him a real Christian is there's hope I feel like the ones with no hope if they're like guys guys guys stop let

Laurenher speak please Sor oh go no no okay the the thing that makes him a real one is is I feel like a real Christian at least has some hope like

Laurenit's not like oh my God sorry you're stuck it's just like you know hey like you know there's going to be at least you're respectful just Candace isn't a a

Mason Gregoirereal Christian I mean you know her I'm like so there yeah yeah I mean it's it's important for Christians one

Mason Gregoireto be respectful like we are called to love but we are not called to uh promote or accept sin so like I'm not going to sit here and be like I

Mason Gregoireapprove of your guys' lifestyle I heavily disapprove but I see you are created in the image of God and I respect him so he has infinite value so

Mason Gregoireand he has bestowed that value upon yourself so thing I see it as like the thing that makes sin so sinful is that it is it is especially sexual sin it is

Mason Gregoirea sin against your own body so it's sinning against something that is infinitely valuable that's where I see the tragedy cuz I see like there is so much value and that's why it just is

Brian Atlasdistasteful to me but anyway I know Brian you want to move on yeah I just want to make sure I get this chat in just because uh it's about to fall off we have Derek the Traer question for the ladies if a young young woman approached you for advice on entering the escort industry what would you tell her so

Olivia Bentleywe'll start with Olivia we'll go around the table try to keep brief answers if you can go ahead um I would Advocate that they go and um gain their training

Olivia Bentleyat a legal brothel I would um I'm not going to state which but I I have my favorites in terms of ethical um decisionmaking and business practices and I would send them there for for

Olivia Bentleytraining and and understanding I would be happy to be there mentor and um invite them to to join join our Squad and and gain knowledge from us we've

Olivia Bentleywe've all talked about this how we could you could be of use in the spiritual sense you are fantastic at branding and business um I can assist on you know in terms of physical health we we've talked

Olivia Bentleyabout being kind of a hub together and also um the the business aspect in terms of just being able to manage your money and invest financial literacy offering

Laurenthem that as well okay I'd say uh before um I wouldn't I guess necessarily recommend escorting or or you know sex work to anyone I mean obviously I would say like okay if you're really going to

Laurendo it do a legal brothel you're going to be safer and safe um but uh I would say try dancing first see if you like it see see how it goes and if you like it then

Mercedeslegal brothel mhm I would not recommend it whatsoever I would not recommend it only because if you're questioning it then it's just not for you a lot of the women

Mercedeswho are LED into that industry are literally led into that industry and it's not something you question sure it's just something you do I think it really depends on the individual and what their motivations

Alice Littleare for getting into the industry have they considered the risks the benefits what this means for them longterm and short term how this is going to impact their life sex work is work but it is

Alice Littlealso realistically stigmatized work so I would really encourage someone to sit with it pause and think about all of those things and do their homework and research before moving forward

Brian Atlasintentionality is everything your why really matters in this industry sure so another question I have going around the table with for everybody I want to know

Laurentotal clients you've had we don't I I think I already said a thousand how much I think I already said like a thousand 10 years yeah in 10

Brian Atlasyears yeah I'm just curious like how many total clients have you I don't know if you give us a range that a range a th000 plus maybe a th000 plus 2,000 plus

Olivia BentleyI don't know I I I don't even pull out the receipts pull out the receipt I feel like a body very vanilla why why would you ask that's a different question that's a different question the body count it's a

Brian Atlasdifferent question the body count because body count that extends to your your uh sex life outside of your work I'm curious just your total clients that you've had So within the profession

Olivia Bentleyprobably a th000 plus but 2,000 plus 10,000 5,000 I'm just curious into Olivia I'm curious I'm curious I got to know I've seen a lot of people I've made

Brian Atlasa lot of connections motivated a lot of had a lot of fun yeah yeah okay 5,000 plus 5,000 give us a number you got to give us a

Olivia Bentleynumber Olivia we have a range yeah range is fine but a thousand plus what if it if that could be that could be 10,000 a million a million times when like so there's been times you know in the very

Olivia Bentleybeginning when I first got in and then it was more volume and then I decided I wanted to be a travel companion I was only going out with like five guys for a

Olivia Bentleycouple years and we traveled and and that I I made a way that was fantastic I I made a ton of money that way and we did vacations but that was only with Five Guys for several years I like that

Brian Atlasrestaurant that's a good restaurant one my um okay well so to the to the clients to the clients come on

Brian AtlasOlivia Olivia you guys are maybe I don't know 2000 plus well over you think it's do you think it's 2,000 plus likely do you think it's 3,000 plus I'm not sure

Olivia Bentleyso somewhere between two and three, yes because I have had a lot of regulars I have regulars of like 10 years oh no so I wouldn't I wouldn't count you count

SPEAKER_06them I wouldn't count repeats you can't collectively have over 9,000 clients that is an A+ reference a plus maybe

Brian Atlasactually maybe okay thank you Bender the offender so Laur is it Laura or Lauren I always get confus is it 1,000 plus 2,000 plus 3,000

Laurenplus I mean I guess 1,000 plus cuz if I said a th000 like a couple weeks ago then I but do you know if it's because a th000 plus that could be 2,000 plus right so you think it's between a th000

Laurenand 2,000 it's got to be between a th000 and like 1,000 100 no some of them didn't dear D

Annie Lobertdear die today that would be uh Annie what about you yeah I got I got beat up for this last time

Annie Lobertremember we did this I did documentary on some a couple years back about that very number and I could not really remember I said 10,000 at first but

Annie Lobertactually when I look back now about 30,000 okay because I worked every single day of the year and it was a competition me and the other girls'

Annie Lobertpimps I mean we were all trying to make the most money and yeah it's about 30 and I don't know how many repeats those are cuz I had a lot of regular clients a lot of repeat clients H did you guys

Annie Loberthave your own like like you know Cor like you know areas or is oh no it's escorting oh got some girls we call it walk in the carpet yeah oh okay walk in the carpets we call yeah walking the

Annie Lobertpark we we don't walk the street we walk the carpets gotcha okay and that's if you're in between cars the knees like to well I mean it's more comfortable for your feet like you literally sometimes would take your heels off at the end of

Annie Lobertnight and not use your heels anymore but walking the carpet was you know it's really weird okay there's a hierarchy and I know we we talked about this earlier touched on at the hierarchy street walker a stripper escort or I'm

Annie Lobertnot no no yeah where did you put ventriloquist on that list okay so that's a whole another level of a of a have any of you guys seen a vquest what's that wait that's a

Annie Lobertspecial I sexual too like what's that up uh Charlie yeah Charlie yeah I loved him I wanted to I wanted to be a v c but anyway but so there's hierarchy so

Annie Lobertthere's well I don't like to say this stre I don't want to hurt anyone Street Walkers and I'm sorry exotic dancers and if you called me a stripper I would get mad at you I'm an exotic dancer don't

Annie Lobertcall me a stripper yeah they' get mad you know and then going they yed at me esorting and then no I'm not an escort I'm a call girl what are you talking about call okay I am not a street walker I'm a call girl in fact I'm a high class

Annie Lobertcall girl because I saw nothing but at the very end I worked for the casinos the coner I work for nothing but people that no one knew about that were calling the escort services that was on the down

Annie Lobertlow so yeah yeah strip clubs would even call and yeah and I hated the STP because they were our competition and they took a lot of the money yeah there

Mercedeswas less strippers and Es bartender yeah it's like really misplaced how many clients have you SE I

Mercedesfeel so vanilla I feel like I cuz it was something that I didn't really enjoy like I was just like oh mental health

Mercedeslike could go without it um I'd say under within escorting maybe under 20 oh okay less than yeah I was like very vanilla with it okay Alice what about

Alice Littleyou it all depends on how you define body count are these the people I have been with but does that extend to the people that those people have been with when you think about risk however and this is something I think is important

Alice Littleto touch on here when you're calculating who are you being intimate with you also have to consider who are those other people being intimate with that is true we are professionals that are tested

Alice Littleevery 7even days we are the most tested individuals on the planet nobody receiv received the same level of STD and STI testing you should be a

Alice Littlepolitician we quite literally are professionals though so when you hear these large numbers also understand that we are routinely being tested we are

Alice Littlevery risk aware we're using condoms and dental dams as required by law this isn't just like random hookups at a bar where people are having active I'm just

Alice Littleasking total clients yeah I'm just asking total clients I mean easily over 3 to 5,000 easily easily without a problem it doesn't really matter because

Alice Littlewe are doing so in a professional context would you not be nervous if your surgeon's like have operated on five whole people I'd be like no thank you

Alice Littleget away from me with those tools I don't trust you in your experience yet so I think it's a good thing do you oh well I think well are you're saying

Alice Littlewithin the context of seeing a sex worker you would want somebody who's experienced a professional absolutely like do you think

Alice Littlegenerally Grand oh my God I have learned so much in my experience over time from when I first started in this industry and I give a much better experience now as compared to back then everyone

Alice Littlestilled the difference between quality versus quantity and everybody has moved away from the oh I want to see more people and instead everyone's focused on oh I want to be more selective more

Alice Littlechoosy and it's a very different experience as a result of that that only comes from experience no well I do have kids I have 26 kids but they're all

Alice Littlegoats goats are they the tiny ones Alice no I have full-sized goats they weigh like 200 adorable I love goats I don't

Brian Atlasknow if I I don't know if the comparison to you'd want a surgeon who's had a lot who's done a lot of surgeries they're more experienced therefore I I don't

Brian Atlasknow if that's an apt comparison because couldn't you make the argument that for example a woman who is prepared to sell her virginity could could command a much higher rate than than for a one-time sex

Brian Atlassession than for example just a prostitute that's been prostituting actually no that is a myth that is something that I don't think that's a myth no it is something that has been

Alice Littleactively attempted through the legal brel multiple times where we have done like virgin auctions where they've attempted to raise hundreds of thousands

Alice Littleof dollars potentially for someone's virginity and in fact that virgin didn't really have a very easy

Alice Littletime of making that a successful auction people weren't actually they wer on it for a virgin

Brian AtlasForin really believe you I would wonder if I would be I would wonder if there's some sort of fraud going on supposedly there was a doct a

Alice LittleVirgin last night well this is part of it they did like a doctor's check for this girl back in the day I mean but what is she's using tampons Alice she

Mercedeshad no definitely don't you a virgin Ian I'm just saying virginity is an energy and I think it could be renewed over over wait

Mercedeswhat yeah virginity can be renewed I think that virginity is that's a one and okay hold on I you can't renew that I was a virgin in Christ when I married

Alice Littlemy husband we didn't have sex and energy sorry Nick sorry like yeah if you've had sex in a way that isn't consensual for the first time and

Alice Littlethen you're choosing to have sex for the first time consensually I am choosing to now have sex that is the first time that you are having sex to end a sentence

Alice Littleanything before that should not be considered in violation of that if somebody that's an extreme situation ex but it happens though so it's like if

Mason Gregoireyou have consensual sex you're no longer a virgin yes once you Sho is that's I think I'm not sure if that's what she said but go ahead so I don't like to I

Mason Gregoireso yes there is a side of me that says okay there is redemption in Christ I've said that many times on the show but I

Mason Gregoirecan't I hate the rhetoric that is often pedal by people who have made choices in their life that

Mason Gregoireare in so according to bi the Bible or in their own estimation not okay like I wish I wouldn't have made those decisions but then they try to absolve them and pretend like oh but that's not

Mason Gregoirethat's not me anymore so all of it just goes away all of the baggage all of the like all the negatives like all of the things that are going to be carried into my future relationships like that's not

Mason Gregoireme anymore so that it shouldn't even like enter into the equation like that's not going to have any bearing on our relationship like all of my past sexual experience if it if it has a bearing on

Mercedesyour relationship that's a personal choice like if you're triggered by the fact that a girl that you you know marry has had ex- seexual Partners that's your choice to be triggered by that so it's

Mason Gregoireyes it's a choice but it's also an objective fact like there are physical emotional like spiritual ramifications for the choices you make regardless if

Mason Gregoireyou want to acknowledge it or not not saying you don't acknowledge it but a lot of people they have this very um what's what the phrase I'm trying to

Mercedeslook for it's instant gratification and then no um oh gosh I feel like what you're speaking to is by is bypassing so like someone who hasn't integrated their

Mercedesexperience in is bypassing like oh yeah like whatever I did that versus someone who's done the healing work and who's been able to come into a space of

Mason Gregoireunderstanding like God's um value like how God values them um and then also someone who's been able to just own their experience like so I I I

Mason Gregoireremembered the word it's so having all of these things in your life that are going to damage future relationships but refusing to take accountability for those that's bypassing yeah yeah so refusing to take accountability for

Mason Gregoirethose things that have happened like I have had relationships where I'm starting to talk to a girl and she'll like okay this is a decent looking dude um like green flag and then all of a

Mason Gregoiresudden I'll bring something up that I'm like I have a strong opinion about and I'll be like these are my like this is what I'm looking for and a wife um this like I want to be her to be a mother all

Mason Gregoirethese things and then the conversation will start to come up where it's okay I I understand this person has a past and I want to communicate to them that's not a deal

Mercedesbreaker I want to understand where you're coming from let's work through that together and a lot of of girls are turned off by that really it's because it's not the one

Mason Gregoirethat's for you I totally agree I I agree person that's for you I so I would say that a lot of girls are turned off by that because they don't want to be accountable for what they've done and

Mason Gregoirethey don't want to go through the emotional Rel and relationship work to be able to work through that and to develop a good health relationship of what they've done and you should make them feel that way and I know how some

Olivia Bentleyguys they're they're they are turned on by the fact that I've been with other men they are turned on by the fact that I'm experienced I know men that are turned on like they want other men to want me you know you have got guys like

Olivia Bentleythat like and they're not necessarily clients I've just met my guys out on The Dating beat um you know everybody ticks to a different yeah I know what you mean Everyone likes a desirable partner and

Alice Littlewhen you are with somebody who is desirable you then feel more desired butel is off the charts there are very few high value that will want these

SPEAKER_06women not to be confused with highth men who pay for sex like they pay for parking goodness one my

Annie Lobertgosh anyway couple days in man go for this this is my um my Miracle but I don't even want to say that because

Annie Lobertlove it supersedes all sin and when Christ came he dissolved that at the cross yes that blood dropping off that cross when it hit the

Annie Lobertground I love Jesus it made me a virgin in Christ and for my husband to put that ring on my finger right here and tell me

Annie Lobertthat I was beautiful MH that I was chosen by him that he wanted to spend the rest of his life with me no matter how many men I had been with and how many horrible stories might come up in our relationship and me realizing yes

Annie Lobertthose are horrible stories but you are my pillow yeah because you are the man of God that I chose in Christ that sees me as a virgin in in your eyes and see

Annie Loberthis eyes are redeemed because he really believes what Jesus did and when he looks at me I'm in that white wedding dress like Billy says nice day for a white wedding baby can I ask you guys a

Olivia Bentleyquestion what do you think that Christ thinks about the extraterrestrials I want I want to I want to ask what do you think that Christ thinks about that he loves we can

Mason Gregoireget to that later but I I want to ask you a question Rec that in the Bible like so as you started your marriage with uh what was his name again Oz Oz

Mason Gregoireyes as you started with your marriage with Oz like did you have to like how was the relationship work that needed to be done like so was there baggage from

Mason Gregoirethe experience you had as a sex worker like how was that unpacked in your relationship was it difficult um like what did that look like oh what does it look like yeah what does it look like is

Annie Lobertstill an ongoing struggle it's every sing and today I was listening to one of my uh friends Victor Marx I'm going to give a shout out to Victor Marx he had a very bad childhood and he had a lot of

Annie Loberttrauma and one of the things that was done to him as a child was there was a gun put to his head and it was click click click Russ roulette so I had one of my exes do that to me actually two

Annie Lobertbut one in particular quite frequently did that to me and he would spin the chamber so I got I got triggered and I started crying but here he comes over on the other side of the hotel room to hug

Annie Lobertme and say it's okay mhm just I mean letting me cry in that space because I forgot about that memory in specifics so it's a it's a daily thing but it's not

Annie Lobertunmanageable so this is the point I was trying to make he loves me enough to exactly to do that to be that man like Hosea was ordered to marry go yep even though she most beautiful name in the

Mason GregoireBible goer as a woman was I agree he freed her so that that's something that's it is important to recognize yes there is forgiveness

Mason Gregoireoffered by Christ but it doesn't absolve I mean so yes it absolves the responsibility of your sin but it doesn't erase the ramifications like the work that you have to do it doesn't

Annie Loberterase like the issues that it's going to bring up in your life can I I want to speak to that too don't forget cuz I want to say this because don't forget what you say it's there that is part of our relationship

Annie Lobertmagic and I just say love and beauty and awesomeness and incredibleness is the fact that we are together because he loves me because of my past too he

Annie Lobertmarried my past yeah yeah and my future and my current status so it makes him love me deeper and it bonds us closer I

Annie Lobertcan't explain it it's supernatural it is so Supernatural and I love it that he loves me enough to deal with me and I deal with him CU he's got trauma too yeah exactly I mean OB he's a sinful man

Mason Gregoirehe's going to bring stuff to the table that is not ideal but I guess as we're speaking to the audience like there's not not everyone who's watching this is going to be like I'm a sex worker and

Mason Gregoirethat's going to enrich enrich my future marriage yeah like so sitting here what's your message to people watching like

Mason Gregoiredo should I seek after a sinful lifestyle so I might have a rich marriage in the future or is it I need

Mason Gregoireto obey the word of God and like honor What He commands me and that will set me up for a healthier relationship in the future I think whoever's watching needs to First figure out why are they seeking

Annie Loberta relationship in the first place and love them themselves first yeah first and foremost But realize hey who created me oh if they're an atheist or if they believe in God figure out what and who

Annie Lobertthey are and for me as a tiny little girl somewhere deep down on my soul I knew I was created by someone bigger than me and that that's what settled me

Annie Loberton my OD date I mean MH yeah and I don't want to force anyone to believe what I believe at this table or anywhere on the internet but what I know is I have peace now I have joy I have the best life that

Annie LobertI could have if I had not lived that lifestyle I don't know if I would be where I'm at right now but I do know this I have the wisdom of a thousand years and when Christ comes to rule with us for a

Annie Lobertthousand I'm going to be like I got you so yeah not bragging about myself this has got nothing no we all feel love with inside of me and I love all of you here because all of you have been through

Annie Lobertsomething including the men and we all are hurting but we're also feeling the love and and the and the healing from it as well yeah so I I got some being a

Annie Loberthuman question ask the questions right you have a son I we'll talk later you have I have children inherited three children inherited with my husband kids I have a

Brian Atlasdaughter uh if you ever have sons or if you do have a son would you want your son to see a

Olivia Bentleyprostitute why not I would my son has your son has he did see an S he didn't see you did you so that might be that's

Olivia Bentleydude take it back do it take back the show started like what not to talk about Sweet Home Alabama bu I think incest is

Laurenactually on the table did he did he was it was after like did you did he talk to you before did he talk to you before like hey I think I'm going to do do oh

Olivia Bentleyhe did talk to you before those what did how did that conversation goally um I just discussed that there's a way to do it and I advocated that he would see somebody at at the legal brothel and and

Olivia Bentleymake an appointment if that's what he wanted to do and he um was in a relationship for a high school sweetie for years and years and years and then they broke up and he said I think I'd

Olivia Bentleylike to go you know see a companion and he did and he said well it was fun but okay over it he goes I'm I'm kind of a relationship kind of guy and and I want

Olivia Bentleyto just get on with it and work and um he wants kids because so I had an art studio um for several years and he

Olivia Bentleymanaged it and he worked and we worked with kids and we did Art parties and he loves kids and so he's like you know eventually I'd like to be a father and um I'm a kind of a oneperson kind of guy

Olivia Bentleyand that was an interesting experience but I've taught him to respect women period MH whether you know under under any circumstances and I've and I've

Olivia Bentleytaught him about the cortison and the history of the cortison and um we used to be king [ __ ] back in the day we used to be at the top of the totem pole and why that Dynamic has changed

Brian Atlasit's it's misogyny misogyny it's men wanting to be in control well that's even where they they tried labeling Mar prostitute well they have the concubines

Olivia BentleyK what what specifically is misogyny what like what what what are you talking about like like this like this guy over here man explaining to us that like we're all Sinners and stuff and he's a virgin and he's he's hasn't even had a

Olivia Bentleyrelationship wouldn't he be the perfect person to call you Sinners I guess he not hypocritical you're a virgin yeah yeah

Annie Lobertyeah I know that don't you love you know that I know I'm shocked I didn't know love it not a born again virgin either really cool beautiful I think it's beautiful I think it's all good don't

Brian Atlastell me what to do don't tell me what you think is best for me you know I I just it's it's not for me what why is he a misogynist though that's why is he a misogynist I I I don't need somebody like coming on this panel like saying

Olivia Bentleythat like we we shouldn't be doing what we're doing like I mean I thought you know like this is a very sex positive group of of ladies and um what we do is very empowering and what we provide um

Olivia Bentleyis very positive and I have provided a lot of amazing experiences for couples and Men alike and the relationships that I've cultivated been been very very

Olivia Bentleyamazing on both ends what they do for me what specifically did he say that you object to um I I just feel like just yeah I mean I yeah I'm not even

Brian Atlasdown with like the biblical stuff and it's just it's not yeah okay but so what specifically did he say that was misogynistic um I just feel like I'm not

Olivia Bentleya sinner I'm not I'm not sinning by by doing my job by do by being by being a provider um and that's something that you've you you've even stated and you are you are a Godly woman you are a very spiritual

Mercedeswoman I don't think that it's sinning I isn't premarital sex sinning yeah 100% but that's an that's so okay ahead if the Bible says sorry I don't believe

Olivia Bentleythat I don't believe in the Bible horse pucky it's crazy there are aliens on this planet at this point guys we're we're seeing UFOs where did the aliens

Olivia Bentleycome from go back where did the aliens come come on and and the scriptures that I busted out on Candace she couldn't even just sat there like what they made

Olivia Bentleyno sense at all they were so crazy and she just said well um I could give you a Bible lesson if you'd like one it's like cherry picking and what about all the other religions have you had an experience with way back did you were

Olivia Bentleyyou abducted did Abu take world religion in college because guess what there's a gazillion other religions that came well before Christianity yeah so don't sit there and act all freaking high and

Olivia Bentleymighty like you know it all and you got it all figured out you don't have it figured out I'm curious about the alien experience what you don't have you saw you as a client

Brian Atlaswas were you Pro you want to is there not guys

Brian Atlastheom like Bentley Olivia Bentley Olivia Bentley confirm or deny was there alien probing this is the the the Congress or or on me

Brian Atlasyou you talked there was there's Al you said there's aliens there are aliens has have you a client that was do you have a client that's alien you don't know we're all aliens whoa whoa whoa who wait what I don't

Olivia Bentleyknow what do you mean you don't know I don't think so are you not able to to I I was there probing I believe that there are aliens I think we know Congress is already talking about it they've already confessed like we know that that they

Olivia Bentleyexist I saw you doesn't that directly like conflict with the Bible of ancient you know years and I'm not saying like I'm very spiritual believe when we die

Brian Atlasthere's something else and that's very great that's very that's a positive speaking of this I just tell me like it is what is the uh what is the religious the Christian view on extraterrestrial

Mason Gregoirelife forms yeah it's a fair question actually so uh interesting you bring this up the person who is who brought all of this

Annie Lobertinto the public eye is the lead singer of Blink 182 oh and so I'm a blink fan anyway love them um I know the people on the field by the way I know people

Mason Gregoirepersonally oh pleas really good friends that are I I got tickets to go see them this coming year but I mean I'm talking about people that interacted with real

Mason Gregoirealiens um so oh yeah he and this is kind of like I agree with him on this he doesn't think that it is interplanetary

Mason Gregoirelike they don't come from very far away it's interdimensional so so how we see this in the Bible is there is a spiritual war that is happening that we

Mason Gregoirecan't see there are spiritual forces that we cannot see so there's a story I can't remember the prophet eel is it the

Mason GregoireLI I think eel yeah where uh so a fire chariot's a fire yeah so exactly yeah so he's he is uh there is an army

Mason Gregoiresurrounding the city and uh people are like how are we going to defeat them what's going to happen and he says don't worry God is God is going to protect us

Mason Gregoireand he can see this massive spiritual Army of angels ready to destroy the Army in surrounding the city and people can't

Alice Littlesee do you think about there are spiritual forces that we can't see no this sounds like anime now we got to stop for a second is this NE Genesis

Alice Littlehere like this is okay so you as me this sounds really Fantastical where in the Bible is it talking about invisible I

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