01:51:03Mason Gregoirefeel like we've strayed really far hold up hold up hold up okay so we started talking about I love the X Files please continue this so we started talking about how
01:51:15Mason Gregoirealiens were interdimensional and you guys were all for that the instant I the instant I said Bible that's when it became like I don't believe anything you're saying even though Bible for says
01:51:26Mason Gregoirethis it's a story in the Bible it's the prophet Ezekiel anyway so you're asking me you're asking me how like the exact word for word where it says about the
01:51:38Brian Atlasinvisible creatures of go let's bring it back we're going to you know listen aliens maybe they exist let's let's stray away from the alien conversation yeah so like you you ask for what I what
01:51:50Mason Gregoirethe Bible says about this I gave what the Bible says about this and then you give me crap for saying that but those are the words in the Bible invisible like the word alien is in the Bible
01:52:00Mason Gregoireceles celal kingom I mean we're a lot of let's move on let's move on Bible reference
01:52:08Brian Atlasto why am I misy Hold On Olivia you said that he's misogynistic yeah first off can you what how do you define how you
01:52:18Olivia Bentleymisogynistic I don't think he likes women but um I I I find him um naive naive about the world and life what and and you haven't even lived
01:52:30Mason Gregoirelived it you know he's lived do you know how much he [ __ ] benches how much dead dead I actually
01:52:38SPEAKER_06just competed I total I I'll tell you after myself I wouldn't TTS tonight but what the [ __ ] is going on dating show
01:52:48SPEAKER_06right right why full hooker panel teaches nothing about dating I dat only teaches ye dat I date it doesn't work out but I date mod jaama thinking know we're talking about the Bible we're not
01:53:01Olivia Bentleytalking about dating and we're not talking about theit that we provided to our customers I thought this was going to be like a sex worker not Bible Bible verses with with
01:53:13Mason Gregoirewell the thing is like you asked me where it says that I'm going to tell you like we're having a respect respectable conversation if you ask me a question I'm going to give you an answer so yeah
01:53:23Mason Gregoirebut uh to get go on uh how much I lift I have 775 total I just competed on Sunday
01:53:31Mason Gregoire775 kogam total so it's a seven or a 5 uh 73 squat a 419 bench and then a 7 uh
01:53:42Mason Gregoire16 deadlift that's good that's pretty good I'm a lifter she lifts you understand life experience common ground
01:53:52Brian Atlas[Music] totally we can live together okay sure yes and and just a reminder let's try to just do one microphone at a time guys um you said he was misogynistic first I just want to ask how do you define misog
01:54:05Brian AtlasI say okay can I take it back how do you define how do you def how do you define misogyny well okay I think he's a mansplainer how about that that's what do what does that mean okay you're
01:54:17Olivia Bentleyyou're just telling us like how you how you know you I I just feel like it's mansplaining I feel like I'm being mansplain too I'm 46 years old and I
01:54:27Olivia BentleyI've lived a a lifetime um and I've been around the world and back and I'm still very um happy in my decision making as a sex feel like you guys have been woman
01:54:39Mason Gregoiresplaining to me the whole night because you're telling me you don't understand how I feel you you have no idea what you're talking about like we can't have a honest conversation
01:54:52Mason Gregoireif people are going to say you have no idea what you're talking about because of this thing you can't control your age like when I can I I can do a bunch of reading I know so I know what the Bible
01:55:03Mason Gregoiresays but I don't just read the Bible I have done my research in history I am a I'm an engineer so I MA mathematics and science are important to me and I say they point me to God there they point me
01:55:16Mason Gregoireto order that there is a design so it's not like I'm an idiot I'm 27 years old yeah so I'm not the oldest person in the world you were born yesterday yeah I wasn't born yesterday and like I've I've dealt with hardship in my life I lived I
01:55:28Mason GregoireI've lived overseas I don't know if any of you have but I probably have that most over most of you so I Japan I I yeah so yeah so I lived in North Africa I liveed in a thir country so I'm South
01:55:40Mason GregoireAfrican well that's awesome so but like you we have to have an honest conversation where we're not saying that like because you are not this your voice doesn't matter so because
01:55:52Olivia Bentleyyou're not you're only 27 it doesn't matter what you say be open that is that is your truth that is your life like like like you believe in the Bible and you believe that you should be a virgin and those are your beliefs but I was
01:56:05Olivia Bentleytold that this was going to be a panel that was concentrated on sex work just predominantly sex workers talking about sex work and sharing um our experiences in the industry and I didn't know we were going to go off the rails on the
01:56:17Olivia BentleyBible because that's not really applicable to to me so I'm not going to be able to really identify sex work isn't really applicable to me but I can still talk about it yeah okay so okay in
01:56:28Brian Atlasany case you you called him a misogynist what maner or then you walked it back to mansplaining then you walked it back to
01:56:36Olivia Bentleymansplaining well I think there's yeah I I I don't think that he relates to to my perspective and I don't relate to yours
01:56:48Brian Atlasand and so so how much time are we going to spend on the Bible okay so we keep coming back to this and I think we don't need to stay on the Bible but how is he a
01:56:59Olivia Bentleymisogynist cuz CU I keep asking you I'm trying to move it away from I feel like um um you know just maybe it's a cultural shift and not necessarily like
01:57:10Olivia Bentleyit's not not saying necessarily you but um just um making sex workers out to be um Sinners and bad and negative um my my
01:57:20Olivia Bentleyenergy my my energy and my light has been very positive and I've given that out to a lot of people and I've received it back and I have a lot of fans and I
01:57:30Olivia Bentleyhave a lot of lovers and a lot of supporters and um positivity back and forth that is what I've what I've given men and women alike and that's what
01:57:41Olivia Bentleythey've given back to me encouragement um and and those are the kinds of things I I would think that you know as Christians that's what you guys also talk about that that's that's what you're supposed to be doing so I don't
01:57:53Olivia Bentleyneed somebody coming in here and bringing some dust old ancient Bible and saying that you know oh you shouldn't be doing this and this is bad and and and this is wrong and you know maybe for
01:58:02Mason Gregoireyour for your life what you get here what's the point here so like all I'm getting from this is like you like I'm
01:58:13Mason Gregoirenot going to listen to you because I disagree with like I disagree with your point of view therefore you have no merit in this conversation cuz I can't
01:58:24Mason Gregoirerelate to it whatsoever like I'm a human being like I I have had my life experience I've lived in multiple countries um yes I may believe in the
01:58:33Mason GregoireBible but like I can also bring like okay pieces of evidence and like Society viewable um interactions with people
01:58:43Brian Atlaspieces of evidence yeah bring it about what but you said you pces of evidence of you said you wanted to move off from the Bible but you keep bringing it back to the Bible I've asked
01:58:56Brian Atlasyou now I've tried to move the conversation to asking you how do you define misogyny because that's a word that you used and I'm trying to so I think there is an interesting thing that happens I think that at some point I
01:59:07Olivia Bentleythink that misogyny came into play that that made the shift from The cortison Who historically was at the at the top of the totem pole they were the ladies
01:59:17Olivia Bentleythat that paid taxes that own property while the little woman was at home and she wasn't even allowed to own property and she was toddlered in in our history
01:59:28Olivia Bentleyif you know the history o of of women in in history and then at some point there was a shift where that became a a threatening thing and and Alice has a
01:59:41Brian Atlaston of information about that and I haven't heard her speak enough well so are you saying that I want to hear some of the sex work can you stop interrupting please
01:59:49Brian Atlasare you saying that it is misogynist that women that are or were in your profession used to be according to you
01:59:59Brian Atlasrevered to some degree and now they're looked down is absolutely how's that Mis istic though because a man could also be a prostitute and I suppose that would be looked down upon
02:00:11Brian Atlasalso I think there's been a shift in culture where um men do hate on women men do on women that you know there's a
02:00:22Olivia Bentleynegative View and a nasty Viewpoint towards sex workers that is ignorant how so how is it ignorant What specifically is ignorant when when you
02:00:35Olivia Bentleydon't get it CU you don't understand don't understand what what do we not understand the the service that we are providing for other human beings that is beneficial well I think we acknowledge
02:00:45Brian Atlasthat you exchange sex for money I there's no I I do not lack understanding in that regard so what specifically do I or does
02:00:56Alice Littlehe not understand it's not just sex it's not yes I acknowledge you also you tried to just summarize it as being sex for money but that's not what it is that
02:01:07Brian Atlasliterally shows your misunderstanding of the entire conceptualization of what it is that we provide it's that is by definition what a prostitute or an
02:01:17Alice Littleescort or whatever ter you want to use hooker sex for money that is the are do you disagree that that's the definition of somebody who absolutely yes and the sense that it's not always about sex
02:01:29Alice Littlemany people don't even want to have sex at all correct many people sometimes just want to want to talk want to process held totally acknowledge that there are men then why are we
02:01:41Alice Littleconsidering it sinful or problematic or something to judge or look down upon within Society why do we have an issue that there's a profession that women make more money than men the reason I don't think that's why people have an
02:01:53Mason Gregoireissue with prostitution well then why do you think people have an issue with it well I'm sure there's a reasons a lot of people suggest well evidence shows there's damage the societal damages that
02:02:03Mason Gregoirehappen with prostitution please studies yeah societal damage as so as civil we got into this last time but I know statistics about
02:02:14Mason Gregoirethe benefits of legal sex work let's go buddy I defended legal sex work and I will do it again right here right now I know my numbers if I'm not talking about so yeah we can talk about numbers
02:02:26Olivia Bentleyyou can bring up your numbers no it should be about statistics that is what evidence let's talk numbers and let's talk sites and let's talk sources cuz you're bringing it up what is your evidence go am I going to be able to
02:02:37Mason Gregoiretalk or you just going to go with with evidence I have a comment on after he's done why are you stopping we're having you okay every time I start talking there's some there's some inter we want
02:02:48Mason Gregoireto hear your evidence ol Olivia stop talking Olivia you frequently inter just pause just pause oh my goodness okay so if you look throughout history so
02:02:59Mason Gregoirespecifically the Greek Empire the Roman Empire and the Babylonian Empire when the pillar of the nuclear family of traditional relationships has been taken
02:03:09Mason Gregoireout in those societies that is when they fail because there is there is a as children are raised in a normal
02:03:18Mason Gregoirehousehold with a mother and a father and it is a not a broken home you see the flourishing of society and as those things are deteriorated you start to see
02:03:29Mason Gregoiresocieties fail so reference the Babylonian Empire the Greek Empire and the Roman Empire so as we see American society and we can like I think we could
02:03:40Mason Gregoireprobably agree here that America is not as healthy as uh it's not in this healthiest State it's ever been in like we have serious problems there are serious relationship problems so in the
02:03:51Mason Gregoiredating Marketplace I I don't want to get very political but in the dating Marketplace it's pretty garbage right now okay so I think we can agree upon
02:03:59Mason Gregoirethat so like we see that in in history as the uh as the relationship between a
02:04:09Mason Gregoirehusband and a wife has been deteriorated and destroyed we've seen societies fail so as we see the relationship between a husband and a wife be deter iated in our
02:04:19Mason Gregoiresociety what makes that any different so like why do we think that we're the exception to the rule okay so I'd like to discuss that point yeah yeah please please let's
02:04:30Alice Littlefirst start with what makes equality society would you agree that democracy and a fairness to how we treat people is part of how a society should
02:04:41Mason Gregoirefunction uh I wouldn't say democracy I would say uh how so how America was designed to run as a republic so not a pure democracy oh no
02:04:53Alice Littlewe're not talking about a I I wanted to talk about specifically when we talk about our very first historical piece of evidence that we ever have in regards to legislation how Society should run and
02:05:05Alice Littleoperate M what kinds of things do you think were in that document so uh I think America is the most successful country toist we're talking about we're going to hamurabi code here are you
02:05:17Alice Littlefamiliar with this text I have not read hamar robi's code okay so in hamar robi's code it actually specifically speaks as to how sex workers should be treated very early on in the text in our earliest form of
02:05:28Alice Littlesociety sex workers were there at the beginning of society as a structural support within Society so what major power in the world right now bases their society on hamar robi's code again you
02:05:41Alice Littlewere talking about history here you brought up three historical examples of society so let's talk about those historical things sex work has been with us since the dawn of time it's something
02:05:52Alice Littlethat isn't going to go anywhere we have historical evidence of it all throughout history through every civilization all throughout the globe including in the modern day world you can't say that sex
02:06:03Alice Littlework is the reason why Society crumbles you don't I'm not saying it's the only reason I'm saying it's it's not a reason at all because it exists in every society at the beginning of societies
02:06:14Alice Littleincluding the beginning of this Society how do you think people were motivated to go out to the Wild Wild West it was the women who ran and operated brothels
02:06:25Brian Atlasright there literally in Nevada many of the say you're saying the American expansion into the West is because of
02:06:35Alice Littleprostitution it was encouraged by it it was a motivating factor for men to go out to the frontier it was a perk
02:06:45Alice Littlegenuinely and truly it was a perk they could get gold and what did they do with their gold there was only so many things that were available in these towns and one of those things that were available that was western expansion things was
02:06:59Alice Littledue to prostitution not only that we were consulted upon by the people in the town when it came to how the town function
02:07:10Olivia Bentleyoperated it's not a hot take Absolut true history fact and tell them about the Madam that took care of all the um guys that were mining the gold got sick
02:07:19Alice Littlewhat yes I remember she was in the broel converted into hospitals and certain points throughout history by definition are sinners trying to spin it
02:07:31SPEAKER_06is delusional at best M likely a lie you tell yourself see this is aist dy old book over anything you have to say G One Motorsports Olivia says that you're uh he's been on one Olivia says that you're
02:07:44SPEAKER_06a misogynist that prostitution contributes to breakdown of the family unit question I have a question wait wait wait hold on yeah yeah cuz I don't know what's going on with the TTS I'll fix it for
02:07:54Brian Atlasnext show you use the word misogynist again what is uh misogynist oh this is I'll re-trigger I'll re-trigger it sorry doc I'll re-trigger in a sec what is a what's a misogynist what how do you
02:08:07Olivia Bentleydefine misogyny I would say that anybody that I would say that like men that that diss and and hate women for for their their being it's men
02:08:19Laurencould a woman be a misogynist potentially potentially yes I guess like against men or yeah against women too actually there's female there's fem cells there is fem cells
02:08:31SPEAKER_06yeah there is I hold on let me let me let this one come no question that prostitution contributes to breakdown of the family unit breakdown of the family as results in decline in mental and physical health
02:08:45Laurena995 present okay I have a a very important statement make your statement St goe with here's my statement I don't know necessarily if if uh you know I
02:08:57Laurendon't have the stats or whatever but if prostitution behind closed doors that's legal I don't believe that that can contribute to the breakdown of society but you know what I do believe that can break I have never heard a person say
02:09:09Laurenthat Americans expanded West to get their Johnson West the main reason is due to economics and land ownership never heard of that so anyway so do you want to wait do you want want to respond to Bender the
02:09:21Brian Atlasoffender sure I'll have you said you said that West Westward Movement in the United
02:09:29SPEAKER_06States oh what did you have it muted Nick legit making points about what is going
02:09:38Laurenon let us speak you lik slavery what no absolutely not um the monkey here I got West does thanks to Candace no I I so okay so anyway so so
02:09:51Laurenthis is what I think is contributing the to the breakdown of society the other day online I had posted a post on Twitter because I was extremely mad you
02:10:00Laurenknow I if I was born into like a super like wealthy you know situation I might have had an easier time becoming a family Entertainer like in my lifetime I
02:10:13LaurenI definitely might have gotten a better time but um the other day I was scrolling all of a sudden I see this chick who obviously has an only fans looks young you know like probably 20
02:10:24Laurenshe is there's piñatas in a Latin grocery store kids in the background she is lifting her skirt up in the piñatas were in the background she's lifting up
02:10:35Laurenwith a thong and I was like dude I was like I posted and I said I'm sick of seeing this I said this is so disturbing I was like look if you got only fans do it in your house do it there were people
02:10:46Laurendefending her and I was like you are literally warped like seriously like it's better when it's done behind closed doors but literally that and I see I saw this this other lady and this other lady in Honey berett lingerie on a like a
02:11:00Laurenlittle like you know those airport little tra trolley things they weren't going to the airport but they went on there to get content and kids and families were there and they were all like almost ass naked and I'm like this
02:11:10Laurenis disturbing so only fans I feel like yeah it not for everybody you know it's it's negative but public only fans to get shock value content that's what's ruining society and I believe those
02:11:22Alice Littlepeople should be ticketed yeah only fans oh Nick technically that is it's actually it's against only fans term the TTS monster on everything it's
02:11:35Alice Littleactually against only fans terms of service uh you cannot share true public content on only fans you have to tag
02:11:44Alice Littleeverybody in the background Friends porn is not real when you see somebody like in the grocery store I promise you that
02:11:54Alice Littleis a set there are sets for all of these this one wasn't a set I know but that content they didn't BL the little cers in the background that's the problem is the difference between the content
02:12:05Alice Littlecreators who do not know any better versus the professionals again we're going back to professional sex where cor BN stars fall under the umbrella of sex workers I want to come back
02:12:18Brian Atlasone of these chats came in I think it was B the defender um Wester western expansion so Manifest Destiny that's a term I learned in manifest Destin
02:12:29Brian AtlasManifest Destiny manifest sex you think it's it was because of they wanted to manifest some sex let me read a coule read yo just kidding Brian I get it when you pick up chicks from the streets of
02:12:42Brian Atlascourse you're bound to end up with these kinds of guests on the right cool to see Kermit the Frog and miss piggy had a kid what what what Kermit Kermit I'm
02:12:55Brian Atlasnot there where's all right we have doc vabis Mason has a better understanding of the sanctity of relationships at 27 then you middleaged sex workers his
02:13:07Brian Atlaswords not mine don't shoot the messenger here stop dismissing him as youthful he has given you more respect than you deserve I said he was a real one sick Lauren Lauren
02:13:18Mason Gregoirereal Dr is real sorry I roughed you up a little bit no no like my good fell it's all good yeah no I mean like I don't take I don't take arguments personally a lot of people have that they can't do
02:13:30Mason Gregoirethat they cannot separate the conversation from how they think the other person feels about them so like if if I'm saying stuff that you don't personally agree with like most people I
02:13:42Mason Gregoiretalk to they're going to be like you hate me as a person because you disagree with me that's it destroys conversations I should be able to have like if I make a good point I I want you to be able to
02:13:55Mason Gregoiresay okay that's a good point I'm going to mold this over I'm going to think about it because I know this person doesn't hate me and if you make a good point I want to be able to mold that over think about it and figure out okay like maybe in a day or two I'll be like
02:14:06Mason Gregoireah I should have said this about that and it it frames me like better as a person because I'm more intellectual I'm thinking about things maybe I'll go read read on the topic like no you're good
02:14:18Alice Littleyou are more than your beliefs in the same way that we are more than just our professions we are all people at the end of the day and I think it's important that everybody has a certain level of
02:14:30Mason GregoireBaseline respect for each other period yeah that was beautiful no I I agree with that like I know you guys are not just your profession I mean like you haven't been practicing your profession
02:14:41Mason Gregoireat the table right now so I obviously there is an area where that's not part of what you're doing ABD yeah Rock get the Rocks so yeah all
02:14:52Brian Atlasright the get the Rocks Stone us it's about the woman y doc doc vanis Olivia I watched the Candace interview she graciously
02:15:03Brian Atlasgave you a platform she did not have to were you expecting a puff piece you are an ungrateful and prideful de demoon de
02:15:13Olivia BentleyDem Dem I don't um confirm a deny Are you a demam not sure what that is but I just know that the producer said we were going to have an Oxford debate on the
02:15:23Olivia Bentleydecriminalization of sex work yay or nay and I walked into a gotcha interview where they did the wrong background check on the wrong person and she started out in the interview with your son doesn't even live with you he lives
02:15:36Olivia Bentleyin another state and went at me and talked about my son and went on a personal angle and and tried to and put me on the spot and kept me in defense
02:15:45Olivia Bentleythe whole entire time when we were supposed to talk about yay or an Oxford debate do you know what that is it's when somebody studies their sence some their side they do their due
02:15:57Olivia Bentleydiligence and then the other person does their due diligence and they do their research because I was in Varsity debate in high school and then you come together and you debate the evidence
02:16:08Olivia Bentleyevidence and she had n why why did you point to him why did you why did you he has none either I mean I also I did varsity debate in high school saying that respectfully sorry for for the
02:16:19Brian Atlaspoint no no it's fine it's fine yeah no um I will I'll lift with you any day what perfect LIF wait wait lift you have very good vascularity you got good vascularity by the way thank can we see
02:16:31Brian Atlasa double can we see a double bu see the double by wait Nick put it Nick hello I I work on the shoulder I like oh tries let's do the shoulders I don't know I'm looking a little oh my God work there you have it all right let me get into
02:16:44Brian Atlassome I'm going to get into oh wait we got two more chats I'll get into my notes Here oh let's do twitch guys go to twitch.tv/ whatever drop us a follow drop us a prime sub if you have one
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02:17:30Brian AtlasJacket I I've seen that movie I oh Full Metal Jacket I'm not sure what that's in hey Soldier yeah all right we have com 19 question
02:17:41Alice Littlefor the panel do you have clients that don't want to have sex yes oh yeah all and there's lots of people who can't have sex either let's not forget about the fact that not everybody physically
02:17:54Olivia Bentleycan have sex for which I thought that when we were told we were going to come on here we were supposed to bring on like our most like wild fun date that's that was the talking points that we were told to bring on to the show oh so where
02:18:06Brian Atlaswhere's that we I got my list here but you keep accusing him of misogyny no Olivia well man's planing maybe a little but yeah yeah man
02:18:19Mason Gregoiremaning there's been some woman's splaining going on as well yeah what do you think about that Olivia there's been a little woman splaining maybe we can maybe we can just like drop the name calling and then just like talk about
02:18:31Mason Gregoirethe issues yeah if we could do that that' be just like let's get to the gist let's get to the gist let's get to the meat of the sub get to the meat yes the meat all right we have okay let's stop
02:18:42Brian Atlassaying I got grid grid pinky stop crying you got out CL which is super easy to do Candace was very soft on you and just like you did here you played the victim
02:18:52Olivia Bentleybe better get some help okay yeah right she like compared me to um uh what was that guy that got AIDS um oh Charlie Sheen what
02:19:02Olivia Bentleywas she's all about false Slants and and um false narratives and that was her direction from the get-go she didn't take the time to get to know me she
02:19:12Olivia Bentleydidn't meet with me before she didn't ask me questions she had you remind me of Charlie Sheen really did she meet him Charlie Sheen a guy that was like out of control banging everything but the
02:19:25Olivia Bentleykitchen sink and contracted Aids on crack I am a fitness competitor I am sober I've never contracted a thing I've done legalized prostitution very
02:19:36Olivia Bentleycarefully very responsively I have boughten I have this hasn't been done nothing but Empower me I have assets underneath my belt I put my son through private school this is been very good
02:19:48Olivia Bentleyfor me yeah so to imply and and if you thought that she wasn't going at it by trying to make that slant and and put and and compare me to Charlie sheing
02:19:57Olivia Bentleywhich makes zero sense to not put the idea of disease and and um addiction and negative false Slants in your head then you're wrong because she's very
02:20:09Olivia Bentleycalculated this is a woman who married a man who who owned parlor parlor is an anti-semitic think tank that brings skin heads together with with na with a bunch
02:20:19Olivia Bentleyof Nazis and then sold it to to Kanye West help Kanye West is mentally ill why would you take advantage of a mentally ill man for money I never have in the industry you a't got the answers man you
02:20:31Olivia Bentleyain't got the ANS weren't they friends you ain't got the anwers you a got I thought Candace and Kanye were friends yeah yeah no yeah no she used him to by the by paror and paror went out of business with within a year like they
02:20:44Mason Gregoiredidn't know it was tanking they get him to buy that that's oh what a Christian what a Christian that is I like Candace yeah well Candace is to be fair to be
02:20:53Olivia Bentleyfair like stand slander deal how dare you slander how dare you slander my friends what is parlor do you know what parlor is why are we talking about you
02:21:04Mason Gregoireto be fair like Candace isn't here to defend who really cares let talk about what we here to talk
02:21:12Mason Gregoireabout what yeah I wanted hear Let me give this to my question talk question and the benefits let's give Ryan back a show just for a second
02:21:23Brian Atlasletg all right here here we go let me uh I want to speak for the girls that we have all right let's go to Lauren here where you got Lauren you work at the moonlight bunny ranch you were I don't know if you were voted you said you're
02:21:35Laurencorisan of the year I am corisan of the year yeah I think there might have been a Alice was also a ctis of the year I think before me right before me yeah for a couple years yeah oh oh so Selena
02:21:53SPEAKER_06G arguing with brick wall also mwhere MTS I don't know this is insufferable go
02:22:06Brian Atlasto the video tab go to the nope you didn't sorry okay
02:22:15Laurenum I forgot but yeah so we were I'm cortisen of the Year this year and Alice was ctis how many years were you cortis of the Year many many yeah it was like
02:22:27Brian Atlaswas it like on and off or was it like like just in a row oh no I wait hold on let me she made million dollars in one year baby I need to address I'll just address the Selena thing uh first off
02:22:38Brian Atlasthey're not do some of you have o i don't know but they're not off girls but I get what you're saying Selena here's the here's the actual issue so I tried
02:22:48Brian Atlasto like switch to trying to book more quote unquote normal girls not in the sork industry the issue is Selena if you
02:22:59Brian Atlaswant to come and volunteer your time to try to book people uh it's been incredibly like all those shows I don't know if you remember like a month ago
02:23:10Brian Atlaswhere we were just getting like the whole panels would flake and it was like girls who weren't doing o or whatever um the flaking issue like cuz
02:23:21Brian Atlaswe'll we'll Source locally here if it's just insane even if we offer to pay we would offer to pay them and they would still flake and they typically they'd flake last minute and [ __ ] our
02:23:31Brian Atlasproduction the reality is is sel if anybody who who has qualms with the types of guests we bring on you're more than welcome to come and volunteer and
02:23:41Brian Atlasbook women who don't do sex work don't do only fans come involved volunteer time you guys can secure guests for us but the reality is it's it's extremely difficult two times a week to book a
02:23:54Brian Atlasfull panel of like anywhere from 6 to 10 people so we we were dealing with a lot of flakes um it was literally I was about to take another month off because the flaking issue was so such a pain in
02:24:07Brian Atlasthe ass so it is what it is like it's really hard to book for the show it's a controversial show like a [ __ ] college girl or girl who has a professional career even if we pay them they don't want to come on or they say
02:24:18Brian Atlasthey're going to come on and they just flake so it is what it is that's the reality of doing controversial show like this especially in a very liberal area if we were in Florida we could probably probably maneuver it a little
02:24:30Brian Atlasbetter but it's very hard here in California so what is the complaint uh she's complaining that I bring on like there's a complaint that I bring on a lot of women who do only fans or who are involved in um it's typically
02:24:42Brian Atlasonly fans of girls who predominantly come on the show um this is certainly a specialty panel uh cuz they're like well that's not representative of of other women and some of those look it's a valid
02:24:55Brian Atlascriticism however the complexity that we've encountered when it comes to booking people is like if we bring on normal average like girls who go the the local College here or who work like the
02:25:07Brian Atlasflake the flake rate is so incredibly high so we have to balance do we just not put on a show because everybody flaked like we've had shows Madison I'm sure you can attest to this
02:25:17Laurenlike we will have the entire panel flake [Music] what the they'll do an hour before the show
02:25:28Laurenthege to get them on it's probably just because you know I'd seen a couple episodes and and you know sometimes I think that maybe they're like oh I you know I think I should do it and they just don't you know they're scared they
02:25:40Mason Gregoiredon't have it's I think it's how it's marketed a little bit it's also kind of like it's like a normal girl like coming on to the show like so if you're participating in like only fans sex work
02:25:52SPEAKER_06like you're already liketh $100 for all you do you're doing a great sorry that it's duplicated yo Stampede thank you very much I need I'm
02:26:03Mason Gregoiregoing to fix this in a second goe go anyway yeah uh I think normal girls who like they sent out a message saying hey I want to come on um they're they're they don't participate in only fans uh
02:26:16Mason Gregoiresex work um cuz people who participate in only fans in sex work they're already under like extreme public scrutiny correct you're known as like okay like you're
02:26:27Mason Gregoireyou're used to criticism you're used to people saying like Okay like you're a terrible person you have no value blah blah blah blah blah but a normal girl but a normal girl like if they come on
02:26:37Mason Gregoirethe show it's like I don't know if I want to so it's like an hour before the show it's like oh this is real their nerves start getting I got to start I got to like what are the arguments bring
02:26:49Madisonacross like these these people know like kind of know what they're talking about people that we do getquote normal girls that we get I feel that are just kind of scared to come on because they'll just like look up the channel and be like oh
02:27:00Mercedesthey have a lot of followers whatever I say is like yeah I mean it's the same with guys as well hard to find guys point though about what you were just saying like that just
02:27:11Mercedesgoes to show like sex workers have an extremely strong nervous system mhm and it's like I feel like we know how to
02:27:21Mercedesreceive a lot of of of energy criticis criticism whatever it is it's like we know how to receive and and metabolize and that's one of the gifts of being a sex workers is that we're intrinsically
02:27:32MercedesAlchemist like we know how to practice Alchemy like we're forced to yeah we're forced we're forced to and a lot of people so just to just to your point high level I literally disassociation is
02:27:44Mercedesone of my best gifts that I got to industry because that's the best thing that being an actress but what I will say is also to what she was saying
02:27:53Mercedesearlier doctors lawyers all of these people who have high performing jobs also have to have extremely regulated and strong nervous systems in order to
02:28:03SPEAKER_06show up Selena GES completely still love the giving
02:28:15SPEAKER_06you but I'm unfortunately in the midwest uh Selena no it's it's all good I mean don't worry about it appreciate
02:28:26Brian Atlasyour support I don't sorry that the TTS is still bugged I'm not sure what the freak is going on with that I need to fix it I'm not sure um why but uh yeah
02:28:36Mason Gregoireum here sorry yeah sorry um your point was uh sorry I'm trying to my point is that we're able to leave so what I've realized transition andbe you could
02:28:47Mercedesspeak to thiso sex work was such a blessing for me because it's it's taught me how to even run the business that I do right now which I'm responsible for
02:28:57Mercedeshundreds of women you know what I mean it's taught me how to legit sustain a business how to sell it taught me how to sell like when I went into my coaching business at first I was really nervous and then I I've invested probably over
02:29:09Mercedes$200,000 in my self-development and I kid you not I will go into like a sales course and I'm like oh this is stripping oh this is sex work like I've literally learned how to be an entrepreneur
02:29:22Mason Gregoirethrough sex work MH yeah I I I don't disagree with that aspect to it um so I I have to preface this I'm not
02:29:32Mason Gregoiresaying this as like I want to hurt your feelings um this is just what I believe
02:29:38Mason Gregoirethis to be so when I hear that I hear that sex work has enabled you to destroy
02:29:47Mason Gregoireyour own conscience to where you can't feel guilt anymore so okay and
02:29:53SPEAKER_06um so there are like it is enabled me to na 100
02:30:07Mason Gregoirefult like the fact that it's happening as it's as this is happening is like we love you the comedic effect is appreciated
02:30:19MercedesI think that it's helped me build my Consciousness yeah I think that it's helped me build my Consciousness I think it's helped me build my Consciousness it's helped me expand my Consciousness and become way more empathetic as a
02:30:31Olivia Bentleyperson should be fine yes human to human I am much more empathetic as a human I am much more skillful at negotiating and talking with people relating to people and that's why the wealth management
02:30:43Olivia Bentleycompany put me as VP of Business growth it is is because my prior experience in the industry working with people and connecting with people con they trust me
02:30:55Mason Gregoireyeah yeah yeah so I'm not saying that you are unable to connect with people I think uh women do that very well just in general like it's women they move in
02:31:06Mason Gregoirecircles where it's all about feeling that connection that relationship there's um an interesting thing that happens so when you look at uh little uh like boys in the schoolyard they'll tend
02:31:18Mason Gregoireto play games that have like hierarch hierarchical structures like basketball or football someone is the captain someone is the best on the court and we we go to them for like okay how like
02:31:30Mason Gregoirewhat are we doing so there is a winner and a loser and there's like that disparity so it's more about like outcomes and like the the the differences between each person so women
02:31:42Mason Gregoirewill tend to go to games that are they're very much more more relational there's not a winner not a loser so in so little girls when they they'll play like Hopscotch or yeah but when you're when you're talking about
02:31:54Mason Gregoiresex yeah yeah anyway so I'm not saying that there there's no there's no like relational aspect cuz obviously you're talking to somebody else you you are in
02:32:04Mason Gregoirethis in the room with somebody else but the what I am discussing there's obviously something now we you can make the argument that it might be societal I
02:32:15Mason Gregoirewould make the argument that it's something ingrained in us that is damaged by participating in sex outside of marriage I have a question about that yeah yeah so you you asked the question
02:32:27Brian AtlasI need to I do need to like we're we're I need to move on no Brian you do your thing um yes okay so I think I was going
02:32:36Laurenaround the table would you want your son to see prostitutes and you said yes oh he did see one yeah he did see one responsibly I would say this is when
02:32:47Laurenlike okay let's say let's say I had a kid theoretically and he was being bullied and he you know in school and and he had like kind of like a chip on his shoulder or something and he's 18 and he's like you know what no woman
02:32:59Laurenever loved me no ever Lov me I said you know what let's just get this out of your way you go down to the brothel if he's like I don't have any money and this not like wait your can you scoot your mic to the edge of the table oh The
02:33:11LaurenEdge okay all the way to the edge like like right here yeah okay I'd be like you know what birthday I'll do it you know let's get this out of your your way here and let's let's get you some new
02:33:21Laurenenergy in you you pick one you you have a good time you be respectful and we're going to move on from that we're going to get you you know as long as you're comfortable with it but we're going to let's move past this and and and and
02:33:34Laurenlet's focus on other things that you could be be focused on and then what if he's completely different person after that he's like oh thank God that's over I remember I actually when I was younger um I was a virgin I was very ashamed of
02:33:47Laurenit and so I begged someone to take my virginity you had a beg I did you had a beg yes cuz I was bullied a lot so um I had to beg someone to take my virginity
02:33:57Laurenand when it was gone I felt so good about myself because it was better to be looked at as a [ __ ] than to be looked at as a loser in my book I felt invisible I I all of a sudden after I
02:34:10Laurenhad had sex with this person I was visible people knew who I was and and I felt so much power and I was bragging about it yeah I was bragging about it because because I was treated terribly before I was when when when I was a
02:34:23Laurenvirgin I was treated really bad because you were a virgin I just the loser nobody will ever touch you or be with you and this and that so that's [ __ ] up yeah ton of
02:34:32Laurenstigma I would I always said oh my gosh no no guy will ever be with me so then I had a friend I begged him to take my virginity and he did and I this weight
02:34:43Laurenwas lifted off my shoulders and I could move on and I and all of a sudden next couple years I was real popular so wait just to be clear so if your you said if your son was being bullied if he was 18 if he was 18 I I would take him to the
02:34:56Laurenbrothel I wouldn't like be like like if he was getting bull bullied in general or being bullied if he had chip on his shoulder about women and he said like ah if only a woman would touch me and love
02:35:05Laurenme and he was 18 I'd be like well it's legal you're 18 birthday present all right sure mothers are bringing um virgin I've had that too all all the
02:35:17Annie Loberttime I've had mothers would you want your son absolutely okay what about you would you want your son to see prostitutes this is really really a hard
02:35:26Annie Lobertquestion to be answered because my first experience I waited for my boyfriend to take my virginity but prior to him was
02:35:35Annie Lobertanother man and he was 23 I was like 14 it wasn't in a good situation you can figure out what that is without saying the word but personally I believe a
02:35:46Annie Lobertwoman and yes I used to be in the sex industry but because of my perspective and all the women that I serve at Destiny house and dream house and all the safe houses across the country
02:35:57Annie Lobertworking with people that have exited the sex industry I would not prefer this for my son because I would want him to honor
02:36:08Annie Loberta woman in a way he wouldn't have to pay for her and he would love her enough to marry her first and give him
02:36:17Mercedeseverything he has because he really does love her 100% that's my take um I think it's a hard question I you
02:36:29Mercedeshave a I have a daughter daughter okay yeah he had a son would you want him to see a prostitute I don't think if his I I would want him to communicate about it with me and understand his deeper
02:36:40Mercedesintention and his deeper desire there okay so for me it's yes and no seeing do you have a
02:36:50Alice Littleson I have goat kids oh so sorry that's go um they have lots of sex sure would you want your
02:36:58Alice Littleson absolutely yes seeing a sex worker isn't dishonoring a woman it's not dishonorable in any way shape or form of anything paying a woman and recognizing
02:37:10Alice Littlethe value that she is bringing to the table with her experience with her knowledge what she is provid ing in that exchange has value and then honoring
02:37:20Alice Littlethat with what is regarded as being valuable within our society which is money that's a beautiful thing to do he respects women enough to pay them for
02:37:31Alice Littletheir labor rather than going to a bar getting a woman drunk trying to take her home and trick her into having sex when she's only half sober I would never want
02:37:42Alice Littleany child of mine taking advantage of somebody else's child child that wasn't sober I would never want somebody to go leap though because the question is no that's how most people end up like Oh I'm a virgin I guess I'm going to just
02:37:54Brian Atlasgo to a bar and have a one night stand and lose it that's a bit of a I'm just trying to understand I'm just trying to follow the logic here so you're saying that if your son didn't go to see a
02:38:04Alice Littleprostitute that he would take advantage of a drunk like I am saying I would much rather a child of mine see a sex worker than choose to lose their virginity by
02:38:16Alice Littlegoing to a bar and getting somebody drunk and making that choice which when most men go oh I want to lose it I don't know what to do what do men say to other men often times the advice is why don't
02:38:28Alice Littleyou go to a bar and buy a girl a couple of drinks like have you not heard that dating advice from someone oh just go to a bar and go lose it like yeah I mean what shivalry yeah I I've heard I've
02:38:39Alice Littleheard like guys that's how they talk but yeah I'd rather see a man pay for a woman honor her in that way by acknowledging the value of her work and compensating her fairly for it also too
02:38:51Mason Gregoireif he's not planning to be with her then then best to go the sex work so I I think like so as a man like there there have been integral things that have happened in my life because I have held
02:39:03Mason Gregoiremyself to this standard so I'm not going to have sex home marriage so it it automatically weeds out a lot of women cuz that's what a lot of women want I mean like most you could probably agree
02:39:14Mason Gregoirewith me most women have sex for marriage so it weeds a lot of those people out I would say there are some key character development things going on in my life
02:39:26Mason Gregoireuh that is directly impacted from me not wanting to have sex before marriage so so let's just take it to nothing wrong with that that's totally yeah yeah so let's just take it to somebody maybe they're not waiting for marriage maybe
02:39:38Mason Gregoirethey're just they're looking to they're just looking exactly they want to lose it so I would say that there's probably some key character uh improvements that need to happen for that person to be
02:39:51Mason Gregoireattract for that man to be attractive to a woman so by trying to put a Band-Aid over that problem by saying hey let's just go get you uh sex worker and like
02:40:02Mason Gregoirewe'll just let you be with a woman and that will hopefully fix this issue that you have I think that is a that's a it's not a get-rich quick scheme but it's
02:40:12Mason Gregoirelike it's a Band-Aid for a problem that's much larger maybe he needs to improve himself maybe he needs to be more of a man maybe he needs there is
02:40:22Mason Gregoiresome character development things that need to happen that will be hindered the mother that's also the mother's responsibility so I I think like so as a
02:40:32Mason Gregoireman I like I think that needs to come from the father not so much the mother because like the father has been through those character development issues unless the father isn't there well so he
02:40:43Mason Gregoirehe has been the one yeah so the father's there I I think yeah that's a huge problem but the father should be the one speaking into their son's lives saying okay there you're having this issue that
02:40:56Mason Gregoirelike you might want to try to solve this issue very quickly by going to a bar or seeing a sex worker but there are things that you need to improve in your life to where you will be desirable to a woman
02:41:07Laurencorrect because I do think that like um example if if let's say let's say he's like I'm 18 I'm going to go see a six work you know I have this chip on my shoulder goes and sees him and he's like let's say he gets the whole n yard there
02:41:19Laurenand and you know I paid a pretty penny for it whatever he did and then all of a sudden he comes back home I'm still unhappy and and no one will ever love me I'd be like you know what you just got a
02:41:29Laurengift from that woman and she gave everything to you assum presumably and you're still not happy you're the one that needs to work on yourself I said you just got a gift you are ungrateful
02:41:41Brian Atlasfor what you get I agree when you say the father should be a part of that in building I got a followup question here would you want your daughter's daughter if you had a daughter if you
02:41:52Alice Littlehave a daughter to be a prostitute what a silly question an answer I have an answer such a stereotypical question now we got to like take a time out here this
02:42:02Alice Littlequestion is a tired question that people love to ask sex workers as a stereotypical Goa question it's not a gotcha question I have a answer why are you asking that question why did you not
02:42:14Alice Littleobject you didn't object to me asking the son question because most people don't ask about would you want your son to see a sex worker no legitimately the majority of people don't ask would you
02:42:25Alice Littlewant your son to see a sex worker and have an elevated conversation about it the conversation around would you want your daughter to be a sex worker that's a question that gets tossed around
02:42:37SPEAKER_06constantly that's like asking a sex worker to do her makeup in the mirror everybody knows what that looks like motps donated 100 $100 no that is not
02:42:47SPEAKER_06how men talk to theier Sons men teach Sons to be men and respect women and to not consort with
02:42:59Olivia Bentley304s I know so many men in marriages and are dating materialistic women that are paying out the nose for their relationships I know so many men in
02:43:11Brian Atlasmarriages and dating relationships where they are paying out the nose yo J Butler you I think you can't send it with like a bad word or whatever G herpes is not protected by condoms and all sex workers
02:43:23Brian Atlaswill contracted on the long enough timeline in the industry this is why they can't test for it in blank you all have it you're filthy I don't have it I have Kaiser well actually I just switch but I a lot of
02:43:38Brian Atlassponsors yeah in California but I I switch okay so the question was and you see I mean I that you said does nothing to like refute the question that I asked
02:43:49Alice LittleI'm curious why you're asking it because everybody wants to curious daughter I'm the host of a podcast asking various questions but what does this have to do with our children we are consenting adults choosing to do something with our
02:44:02Alice Littleown careers why not ask us about our careers and what we are doing because of sex ref it's a fair question to ask because like your children are part of your
02:44:17Mason Gregoirelike nobody wants to talk their kids at 18 yeah well this is a it's a dating Talk podcast dating generally I just I just feel like kids are one of those things we
02:44:29Madisongenerally dating leads to marriage and then usually marriage leads to kids not always come on let's let's you feel it's a got gotcha question because it's most likely a no from a lot of people I don't
02:44:42Olivia Bentleythink it has anything to do with again and and like and I want to go back to like when you said if if a girl came to me and and talked to me about wanting to be an esort got you know same with my
02:44:53Olivia Bentleydaughter I want to know why I want to understand why and then yeah I would educate her on the right way to do it would you advise your daughter like say
02:45:05Brian Atlasshe came to you and she wanted to get into this line of work would you guide her away from it or would you as you said try to encourage her to I would want to
02:45:17Mercedesunderstand you know why what is the motivation money let's just say she wants money oh then give money it's like it's the the thing is you have to understand how people are raised so if a
02:45:28Mercedeschild like I was I was not raised in the best household but I'm choosing to break those those chains those curses whatever with my daughter so my daughter is never going to think o I want to do sex work
02:45:39Brian Atlasbecause she's not being raised in an environment that's breeding that okay you know what I mean well so the question is is would you want your daughters to be I'm asking you I'm
02:45:50Alice Littlestarting with you and we'll go around this way go ahead again I have goats I have goat kids here I am not a parent so I do want to lead with that kid this is all very theoretical here so I can't
02:46:01Alice Littlespeak want you're allowed to have I don't I only want goats and horses thank you so very that could be your answer you kids if I wanted to have a daughter and she wanted to be a sex worker sure
02:46:13SPEAKER_06she can be a sex worker $100 this episode Sex work is a blessing of God sex work a stepping stone to God my kids wouldn't come up in dating what
02:46:23SPEAKER_06dgen crap you pedaling Brian M's Tiffany that would be fired if I came on okay um hey you know we're trying something new you know we're doing an all sex worker
02:46:35Alice Littlepanel trying to do a little something different we are always a clickbait use yeah any anyway there's nothing wrong with doing sex work what makes this career such a problem for people it's
02:46:48Alice Littlelike ooh what happens if your daughter wants to be I don't know in the military I think I'd have more problems with my child wanting to be in the military than I would with them wanting to be a sex worker I'd be more concerned about their
02:46:59Alice Littlesafety if they wanted to ride horses professionally for a living I'd be more concerned for their safety if they wanted to be an EMT in a risky area like there are far more challenging careers