2 Escorts RAGE QUIT?! Husband CRASHES Show?! Body Count OVER 9,000?! | Dating Talk #119

Date: 2023-11-20

Duration: 4h 58m

Guests

Brian Atlas

OOlivia Bentley >

LLauren (Brothel)>

AAnnie Lobert >

AAlice Little >

MMadison (DT119)>

MMason Gregoire >

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00TTS/Audience(audience)

SPEAKER_01Oz Fox(guest)

SPEAKER_02Mercedes(guest)

SPEAKER_03Annie Lobert(guest)

SPEAKER_05Olivia Bentley(guest)

SPEAKER_07Alice Little(guest)

SPEAKER_08Mason Gregoire(guest)

SPEAKER_09Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_10Madison(guest)

SPEAKER_11Lauren(guest)

Key Moments

IntroShow intro and all guest introductions. Panel: Olivia Bentley (46, courtesan), Lauren (31, Moonlight Bunny Ranch), Annie Lobert (56, Hookers for Jesus CEO), Mercedes (33, ex-stripper/life coach), Alice Little (33, legal sex worker), Madison (18, student), Mason Gregoire (27, mechanical engineer/Christian virgin).

IntroOlivia Bentley introduces herself: age 46, professional intimacy provider and porn star, independent courtesan.

“hey Brian I am Olivia Bentley I am 46 I am a professional intimacy provider and I am also a porn star”

IntroLauren introduces herself: age 31, courtesan at Moonlight Bunny Ranch, also a musician and PR for musicians.

“hi I'm Lauren roses I am 31 I am a cortison at the moonlight bunny ranch and I'm also a musician”

IntroAnnie Lobert introduces herself: CEO of Hookers for Jesus, operates 2 safe houses for women formerly abused by the adult entertainment industry.

“my name is Annie lar and I am the CEO of hookers for Jesus pink chair”

IntroMercedes introduces herself: age 33, ex-stripper and sex worker turned spirit-led pleasure-based life coach and sensual healer.

“my name's Mercedes otano I'm an ex stripper and sex worker turned spirit-led pleasure-based life coach and sensual healer”

IntroAlice Little introduces herself: age 33, legal sex worker, sex educator, and intimacy expert.

“my name is Alice little I am a legal sex worker sex educator and intimacy expert and I'm 33 years old”

IntroMason Gregoire introduces himself: age 27, mechanical engineer, content creator, competitive powerlifter, and devout Christian.

“my name is Mason greguar I am a uh I got crap for saying this last time but I'll say it again I am foremost a follower of Christ um mechanical engineer content creator competitive powerlifter”

ControversyOlivia Bentley recounts appearing on Candace Owens' show. She went expecting an Oxford-style debate on sex work legalization but faced personal attacks about her son. Describes it as a 'gotcha interview'.

Key MomentOlivia calls Mason Gregoire a 'misogynist', then walks it back to 'mansplainer', then to just disagreeing with his values. Brian repeatedly presses for a definition of misogyny; Olivia struggles to articulate a specific behavior.

“Olivia says that you're a misogynist / I would say that anybody that... men that diss and hate women for their being”

Key MomentMason cites fall of Greek, Roman, and Babylonian empires as correlated with breakdown of nuclear family/traditional marriage. Alice rebuts by citing Hammurabi Code which protected sex workers from the beginning of civilization.

QuoteMason states: 'as we see the relationship between a husband and a wife has been deteriorated and destroyed we've seen societies fail' — citing Greek, Roman, Babylonian empires as historical examples.

“the pillar of the nuclear family of traditional relationships has been taken out in those societies that is when they fail”

QuoteLauren recounts her 'magnum opus': a client came to the ranch intending to commit a mass shooting if rejected. Lauren took him in fully, he cried and said thank you. Mercedes: 'You stopped a potential mass shooting, yes, with your [vagina].'

“I was about to do something really really stupid what the H and he got and he said I'm so happy... he was going to go on a ramp”

Key MomentDiscussion of Annie waiting until marriage for sex with Oz despite a professional body count of ~30,000. Brian questions whether making a new partner wait after sleeping with others quickly is 'a bit of a fraud'.

“your body count was like 30,000 plus yeah but your husband he had to wait until marriage yes”

IntroOz Fox (Stryper lead guitarist, Annie's husband) joins the show unexpectedly from the parking lot. Introduces himself as married to Annie, original Stryper member since 1983.

“I'm Oz Fox uh married to Annie Annie's husband okay and uh we've been married for 15 years I've been in striper the Christian 80s hair metal band”

ControversyOlivia Bentley and Alice Little leave the show mid-episode without explicit explanation. Brian: 'they actually did, they left.'

“did they leave both in the bathroom they're both in the bathroom... they actually did they left”

Key MomentOz Fox discusses meeting Annie on MySpace (2007), Stryper's history, playing KISS Cruise, wearing makeup as stage makeup (not cross-dressing), and his previous 20-year marriage before Annie.

OtherBrian plays two TikTok videos of a woman claiming she would embarrass Brian if she came on the podcast. Brian explains she was invited but blocked them after two months of dodging.

QuoteTTS donation reads: 'all women are sex workers' — prompts laughter from the panel.

“all women are sex workers”

Topics Discussed

Show intro and guest introductions

Brian introduces show format; each guest states name, age, occupation. Panel focuses on sex work industry.

Olivia's Candace Owens appearance

Olivia describes Candace Owens show as a 'gotcha interview'; she expected Oxford-style debate on sex work legalization but faced personal questions about her son.

Relationship status round

All guests share current relationship status, longest relationship, and time single.

Annie's backstory and meeting Oz Fox

Annie recounts her history as a call girl, pimp relationships, overdose in 2003, and meeting Oz Fox via MySpace in 2007.

Advice to women entering sex work

Each guest answers what advice they'd give a young woman considering entering the escort industry.

Client counts / professional body counts

Guests discuss total number of professional clients. Annie: ~30,000; Alice: 3,000-5,000+; Olivia: 2,000-3,000; Lauren: ~1,000-1,100; Mercedes: under 20.

Religion, virginity, and sex work ethics

Extended debate between Mason Gregoire (Christian virgin) and the sex workers on sin, redemption, Bible, misogyny. Includes aliens/Bible tangent.

Historical context of sex work

Alice Little argues sex work has existed since dawn of civilization (Hammurabi Code, Wild West expansion). Mason argues societal harm from breakdown of nuclear family.

Sex work statistics and harm/benefit debate

Mason cites history (Greek/Roman/Babylonian empires) as evidence family unit degradation leads to societal collapse. Alice and Olivia counter with historical presence of sex work.

Magnum opus / best professional experiences

Guests describe their most memorable or impactful professional encounter. Includes Lauren's story of preventing a potential mass shooting; Olivia's erectile dysfunction cure; Alice's scripted 24-hour fantasy.

Annie's marriage and waiting until marriage

Annie describes meeting Oz Fox, first date, waiting until marriage for sex despite her past. Discussion of whether making a new partner wait is fraudulent if she slept with others quickly.

Olivia's New York Post article / BBC tweet controversy

Brian pulls up Olivia's New York Post article about saving marriages. Olivia clarifies she never claimed to be a sex therapist; media framing. Discussion of BBC OnlyFans content and Candace Owens' focus on it.

Mercedes: relationship dynamics and sex work

Mercedes explains her poly relationship history, meeting her baby's father at the strip club, and theory about sex workers attracting misaligned masculine energy.

Porn is not cheating / ethical porn debate

Alice argues porn is not cheating; women shouldn't compare themselves to porn stars. Brian says preference to not watch porn is valid if communicated.

Oz Fox arrives mid-show

Annie's husband Oz Fox (Stryper lead guitarist) joins the show from the parking lot. Discusses meeting Annie, Stryper history, tours, KISS Cruise appearance, his second marriage.

Olivia and Alice leave the show

Brian discovers Olivia and Alice have left the studio mid-show ('they actually did, they left'). No explanation given on air.

Reaction to TikTok critic video

Brian reacts to two TikTok videos from a woman who claimed she would make Brian look dumb but then blocked the show when invited. Mercedes, Lauren, and remaining guests comment.

Closing and final thoughts

Guests give final thoughts. Oz Fox sings a snippet of 'Let It Be'. Brian wraps up the show.

Transcript

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Olivia Bentleyahead hey Brian I am Olivia Bentley I am 46 I am a professional intimacy provider and I am also a porn star what when you

Olivia Bentleysay professional intimacy provider what what does that mean um so I provide intimacy whether that is the emotional

Brian Atlasthe physical the spiritual okay so and you're a cortis corisan cortison yes is

Brian Atlasit corisan or cortison corisan C cortison cortisone shot no no cortison okay got it a an I see okay got it all

Brian Atlasright uh and you were on before you were on then you went on Candace Owen's show um and uh there was a New York Post article which we referenced in our previous show but we'll pull that up a

Laurenlittle later because that's certainly an interesting article what about you uh hi I'm Lauren roses I am 31 I am a cortison at the moonlight bunny ranch

Laurenand I'm also a musician and I do pr for musicians as well do you guys all work at the same spot or different different different different so you're at the

Olivia Bentleymoonlight moonlight Olivia where do you I'm independent oh you you don't work an independent yeah I've I've been bordell is that the term Bordello yeah I've been

Brian Atlasat the bunny and and I love her we bunny together close we close yeah okay so at one point previously you had been working at one of the branches I've

Annie Lobertworked at all of them you've worked at all of them yes oh okay all right okay what about you my name is Annie lar and I am the CEO of hookers for Jesus pink

Annie Lobertchair and I have two safe houses for women that have been forly abused by the industry the adult entertainment

Mason Gregoireindustry okay got it oh age for you thank you oh I'm do I really have to say my age Brian come on what guess what just blow us away just just

Brian Atlasknow that I love the 80s so much and I miss them my husband's in a famous 8s rock band called striper striper striper Christian like glamrock is it glamrock

Annie Lobertheavy metal heavy metal all right nice and they wor makeup and tight whatever and I'm 56 oh okay all right wow y I thought I thought you were in your 40s

Mercedesokay there you go oh thank you that means a lot great well about you my name's Mercedes otano I'm an ex stripper and sex worker turned spirit-led

Alice Littlepleasure-based life coach and sensual healer age oh 33 33 I'm 33 what about you my name is Alice little I am a legal

Madisonsex worker sex educator and intimacy expert and I'm 33 years old okay got it all right Madison what about you my name is Madison I'm 18 years old I'm a

Madisonfulltime student her mic's not not working you guys didn't do a we did do an audio T Nick you know what to do just

Mason Gregoireuh it okay go go ahead all right my name is Mason greguar I am a uh I got crap for saying this last time but I'll say it again I am foremost a follower of

Mason GregoireChrist um mechanical engineer content creator competitive powerlifter whatever else yeah rock and

Brian Atlasroll welcome back um hello speak more hi my name is Madison can you guys hear her guys one in the chat if you guys can hear her more hello

Brian Atlasmy name is one in the chat if you guys can hear her now stent we might just have to switch nine

Brian Atlasfor her no we're not doing that um hold on uh age did you say age oh no 27 27 okay all right um Madison's mic is

Brian Atlasscuffed just typical [ __ ] um here can you try unplugging and plugging it back in hello

Brian Atlasokay okay okay uh what here tap tap on the mic is it one in the chat guys if it's hello hello no oh you're not getting it

Brian Atlasum okay here here's what we're going to do um we're going to go around the table um let me think how I want to tackle this cuz I need

Brian Atlascuz we're going to get relationship status from everybody so um what's everybody's current relationship status uh are you single talking stage situationship Friends with Benefits

Brian Atlasrelationship married polyle sex cold if you're single how long have you been single and what's your longest uh relationship or actually you know what before we do that keep keep that in mind um can you tell us a little bit about

Olivia Bentleyyour experience with the Candace Owens Show sure so it was basically a a gotcha interview I um called up the producer

Olivia Bentleyand uh spoke with him and said can we have an Oxford style debate regarding um the legalization and decriminalization of sex work and they said sure we can

Olivia Bentleywe'll fly you out um they flew me out very promptly um they were very nice to me but Candice would not come out and talk to me uh prior to the interview and

Olivia Bentleyonce I sat down they started right in um talk she started right in asking me about my son and

Olivia Bentleyum that wasn't a part of the plan so do you want me to keep talking yes

Olivia Bentleyokay I wasn't sure so so at any rate she started in and asked me hey you have a son and I said yeah I do and then she said well he doesn't live with you right he lives in another state so and she was looking down at notes so I think what

Olivia Bentleyhad happened is she had had her team do a background check on the wrong person and rather than doing the Oxford style debate which I had a lot of notes on and

Olivia Bentleythat's what I was prepared to do she made it a personal attack in my opinion because if she would have said hey we want to bring you on and I'm going to try to annihilate you as a mother and I'm going to talk about your son and

Olivia Bentleywe're going to get into some personal dynamics of your of your family and your personal life I wouldn't have agreed to go on so that was very fascinating so I held my own I did my best um there was

Olivia Bentleyall the things that I wanted to debate about you know we really we we didn't really touch on all of those things so I kind of was more like fending myself off from from personal attacks in my opinion but I did get you know we got some

Olivia Bentleypretty interesting intense debate going on there I thought it was a good conversation I thought you guys had a good conversation okay thank you yeah I it wasn't it was thank you I mean I went with it and I had to go with the flow

Olivia Bentleyand and and you know try to be gracious to the hostess but at the same time it wasn't it wasn't what we agreed to do at all you know so you're saying she blindsided you yes yes okay all right yeah so I I did some kind of reaction

Brian Atlasvideos afterwards and some people thought that they were kind of honory but it's it's it's tried and true how I feel okay got it well uh I think we got the mics working right um Madison can

Brian Atlasyou maybe say something one's in the chat if you can hear Madison Icarus thank you for the gifted 50 memberships so uh we'll go to the relationship status so what's everybody's current relationship status again s you single

Brian Atlastalking stage situ situationship Friends with Benefits relationship married poly sex cult Harum uh how long have you been single if you're single and what's the longest relationship you've ever been in

Olivia Bentleygo ahead so I'm single um I I was married for S years and um I dated for

Brian Atlasabout six months this last year with a gentleman okay so single and you said you were dating somebody for six months pretty recently yes but that is that over yeah I we were

Olivia Bentleygoing to try to make it work where I would move in and um we just decided it probably isn't isn't for for the best just with the way opportunities are going and and my life is

Brian Atlasgoing okay great person and what was your longest relationship seven years my marriage s years my former marriage yes okay when did you guys split up oh that

Olivia Bentleywas that was a long time ago um when my son um was two he's 21 now okay got it so yeah okay I I've tried to maintain I

Brian AtlasI've preferred to be single in the industry okay okay um and so you just have the one son or you have any other kids I have one son gotcha okay what

Laurenabout you uh so me I've been single 3 years and uh I'm single now and yeah I being in the industry it's kind of tough

Laurenwith the dating situation so I think single for the best yeah okay and I if I recall from previous

Laurenshows you have you ever had like a long-term partner or no uh a couple like probably maybe like a year and a half like I I had one like situationship that

Brian Atlaslasted five years and that was when I was like 19 so gotcha yeah so your longest relationship though would you consider it the 5year situationship or more like the two like the two one two

Annie Lobertyear okay how long have you been single sorry if I missed that part um uh three years three three years okay gotcha what about you I am married 14 years as of June 5th this year oh

Annie Lobertcongrats and thank you and prior to that I had some lengthy relationships okay two fivey year and a one I think it was almost seven years two were former pimps

Annie Lobertbelieve it or not the third one was my trick that I wanted to marry and then I married the guy that is my husband o o Fox so for the viewers watching who don't know what a trick is what is a

Annie Loberttrick and maybe the other I apologize a trick is it's a customer client a mark a John someone that pays for sex you find disrespectful I call they they're they're people they're

Annie Loberthumans they're my friends that's why call that okay yeah I heard Marx is sometime is that also a term when the term from

Annie Lobertthe mar that's just what we would use he's a mark yeah he's an easy customer just a customer yeah that too we used to use that term customer okay got it okay

Brian Atlasand you were so you were at one point was it either dating or wanting to get married to one of the tricks it it's it was really weird I was coming to him

Annie Lobertbecause I was getting really mad D at because I was single okay and I had left my second pimp and he helped me actually do that and my brother my Brave brother Chuck okay brought a shotgun it was an

Annie Lobertamazing should have been a movie honestly to the house and said she's coming home with me tonight and I got to leave him thank God but the man that I was friends with that knew about my

Annie Lobertlifestyle that totally accepted it he was a sweetheart of a guy still is he's like let me take you out of this business so on May 18th 1998 is the day

Brian AtlasI quit the escort services in '98 okay 1998 for the first time so proud of yeah thank you for the first time yeah oh did you like have a relap I kind of had a

Annie Lobertrelapse in like 200 the beginning of 2003 2003 and then I overdosed on August 2nd 2003 oh ohed okay on so then August

Brian Atlason cocaine okay yeah sorry to hear that um and then so did you end in 2003 or you how long did you continue working that was the last time I worked cuz I I worked that full year yeah on the Strip

Brian Atlasgotcha and were you independent independent okay got it and so but you've been married for 14 years yes husband's a is he what uh is he a singer is he thear heing background but he is

Annie Lobertthe lead guitarist lead guitarist that's gotcha since he was six he's from woodier California okay uh really amazing person met me this is part of my

Annie Lobertstory as you read my MySpace read your Myspace and said okay I like this girl and my MySpace said X can I say the word

Annie Lobertwith the p or not prostitute yeah oh yeah ex prostitute Annie lar okay and he clicked on it and he was like who would do that and he was totally into it and

Annie Lobertloved my story and was like you know uh I just want to let you know that uh I think you're a real cool person and I'd like to see if I could talk to you so he

Brian Atlashe sent you a private message a DM I guess before you it was even called DMS um on MySpace he did and Myspace I had a a Blog that I did that hit number one

Annie Lobertseveral times in the entire world oh wow I one said Jesus loves prostitutes and a lot of people disagree with me and I'm like that's not true he does so yeah Oz

Annie Lobertsaw the actual Myspace because he went to dinner with Kevin Max mhm and that's from a band called DC Talk and striper was recording their album in Las Vegas

Annie Lobertso they went to dinner and my best friend Heather Beach she went to dinner with them and then he went to her Myspace to become her friend he saw me and her top friends clicked on my picture and everything was done after

Annie Lobertthat actually she called me that night and said I just met your husband I said what she's like I just met your future husband Annie this is the guy and I'm

Annie Lobertlike get real girl you don't know but she was right she was like this is the guy for you so he got vetted like that night it's like kind of amazing when your best friend can vet somebody that

Brian Atlasthey know is good for you it's something you can trust you said that so he saw your profile on MySpace that you had written that former was it escort what

Brian Atlasdid you have written on your prostitute ex prostitute Annie you know what actually it said ex hooker ex hooker I misquoted myself hooker okay how long had you been out of the

Annie Lobertindustry when I first met Oz it was in 2007 so yeah 4 years 5 years almost did you have a Friendster too that's Friendster Friendster is like the even

Annie Lobertbefore MySpace social media no Myspace was my first exp experiment I will never forget right in the in that space the first time but so so your husband he told you that like he saw that on your Myspace and is that he you I think you

Brian Atlasalready said it but what did he say he said that's when I knew that she was the one is that or like he he was just intrigued was very intrigued by me he loved the way I look first of all like d you're going to trct somebody not did you have the same hairstyle back then or

Annie Lobertwas it a little no it was it was black and and blonde so it was black on the bottom and it was a little shorter and blonde on top 2 wait was this in 2004 2005 200 when he saw my space it was

Annie Lobert2007 oh 2007 when he saw my picture yes okay that was like Peak emole sense did you have an em thing going you know what I I'm going to tell

Annie Lobertyou guys that time was such a magical time in my life because social media had just become this cool thing right Facebook was like we don't do Facebook nothing was invented yet it was Myspace

Annie Lobertwas like the thing and I had such a blast riding blogs I was just it was like my little space to kind of vent and yeah it was just really powerful and it

Annie Lobertwas really neat because when Oz read my story which I was really honestly UPS said at the time at my twox pimps M but

Annie LobertI only told on one of them and I just I admitted what I had done and you know the drugs towards the end I was sober the first 10 years of my lifestyle when I was at working in the adult

Annie Lobertentertainment industry and actually in the beginning enjoyed it and I was a stripper as well so I enjoyed entertaining

Brian Atlasmen gotcha okay so one question about the band striper striper yeah has has it always been a Christian uh Rock glam

Annie Lobertrock band they didn't start as striper they were called rocks regime in the very beginning and my husband kind of subbed and came in they asked him to come and play and then they were playing

Annie Lobertand these kids would line up at the brother sweet's house while they played in their garage sure they would line across the blocks and just these kids would just come see and play and one of their friends said hey why don't you

Annie Lobertguys do something something different gosh I don't want to mess this story up um it's okay I try to I try to remember how it went they they they said hey guys

Annie Lobertwouldn't it be cool if you dedicated your lives to Jesus and your music yeah and they were like I love that okay let's do it and they did it they were

Annie Lobertalready filling the clubs on Hollywood Boulevard but this took them to a new level M they got so much attention all of a sudden they got a record deal all of a sudden they're on MTV most

Brian Atlasrequested video of the day I mean it was crazy it was like a whirlwind for them and and your your organization is called it's hookers for Jesus yes okay actually

Brian Atlaswe should maybe a little later Nick if you can pull up that that Instagram account because there's some interesting posts on there uh so hookers for Jesus Does anybody challenge you on that like how does it all the time how how's that

Annie Lobertpossible you know cuz I was thinking like atheist for Jesus you know I I that's actually a thing by the way there are atheists for Jesus and I totally respect that any anything anyone wants

Annie Lobertto call themselves whatever the name really was a joke actually at first but not in not in a mean way I was actually really mad at the vice cops because every time I got arrested 25 times in

Annie LobertLas Vegas 25 times for escorting how about the other girls here solicitation I've you not for that though was it murder no it was uh

Annie Lobertfighting oh fighting fighting come on girl I have a crazy pass yeah okay all right I got hands oh okay I was picked up watch out Madison but oh yeah oh oh

Annie Lobertyeah so the name I was driving away from church cuz I obviously when I overdosed I have this church background I used to be a Lutheran as a little girl and I remember my gloin dark cross and so I

Annie Lobertkind of like gave my life towards like I have to get my life straightened out because right now it is not going very well and I was really mad like I said at the vice cops because they' always

Annie Lobertwhenever they arrested me or my friends they would be like look at you hoes look at you hookers you know you guys are just [ __ ] I mean who would marry someone like you you better get your life I mean just this lecture that right

Annie Lobertnow they're actually changing in Las Vegas I'm really proud of that by the way cuz I'm on the Las Vegas task force for human trafficking and I was driving away from that church and I heard this little voice in my

Annie Loberthead and I I was like what am I going to call myself cuz I was passing out my card that said call me if you need help my name's Annie Annie lar and I was

Annie Lobertthinking about the story of Jesus this is so crazy this is actually what what was I just Matthew 4:19 says I will teach out of fish for

Annie Lobertpeople and he said I heard this voice in my head you're my little hooker for Jesus because you love Jesus and I'm going to teach you how to help the women

Annie Lobertthat are being abused so that's how the name came around there is a verse that it means sco it scoot it scoot it scoot it it literally means fishing for people that are drowning in the dark Waters of

Laurensex trafficking wow so there was a verse I came across today and it said Satan is the accuser of the Brethren and I was like let's continue on with the

Mercedesrelationship status go ahead sorry um um s years longest relation actually I've current current Rel current relationship

Mercedesso 7 years but I've technically been in a relationship for 13 years okay so currently you've been wait I know it's it's confusing so seven years current so

Brian Atlasyou're in a relationship yes I'm in a relationship currently seven years current but your longest relationship is 13 no I've just been in a relationship for 13 years wait I know it's very

Mercedesconfusing were you seeing multiple guys um when I met my daughter's father I was in a in an open relationship but we it's a very very close we're still friends he's like The Godfather with my daughter and everything you dating multiple

Alice Littlepeople currently or just no just the one we're seven years and that's seven years gotcha okay I see okay got it what about you I am single I have been single for

Alice Littlethe entirety of my career within the Nevada brothels but prior to that I was in a two-year long relationship coming out of high school okay two-year relationship G it

Brian Atlasum and you how long have you been in the industry oh gosh since 2015 now and you've been single that entire time yes but when you say single like you haven't had a long-term relationship but have there been men

Brian Atlasyou've maybe dated on the short term like for a couple months or something that you wouldn't consider a boyfriend but you did date them uh for a short

Madisonperiod of time nothing zilch zilch okay got it uh Madison what about you I'm currently taken I'm in a beautiful relationship with my boyfriend Frankie

Mason Gregoireand this relationship is my longest relationship it's been about a little over a year got it what about you yeah um single been single for a

Mason Gregoirewhile but uh I'm picky and I'm not really like desperate for anything to happen and it'll happen in the Lord's timing and uh I trust him with that

Brian Atlaslongest relationship yeah longest relationship was a year one year gotcha wait just to I don't know if we talked about this last time are you waiting cuz you're a Christian man are you waiting until marriage or yeah I am waiting for

Brian Atlasmarriage waiting for marriage okay are have you been intimate with the woman no no I never okay wow gotcha even with

Brian Atlasyour one-year relationship you guys didn't no yeah okay gotcha okay so interesting yeah so he's waiting until marriage I love that for you I love it too thank you thank you beautiful are

Laurenyou I had a question Oh I go ahead go ahead go are you um picky about um for instance is it more their personality or is it their past in personality or if

Mason Gregoireit's just like hey this person's a great person I really like them oh that's a that's a loaded question I mean that's a good question yeah I mean of course there are like there are things I look for in a

Mason Gregoirewoman um first and foremost she has to be a believer if she's not a Believer off the table no question yeah um after that I have to be attracted to them so

Mason Gregoiregenerally that means like I want someone who takes care of themselves so like wants to look good so usually going to the gym uh actually one of my favorite Bible verses of all time is it's in Proverbs 31 uh talking about The Godly

Mason Gregoirewoman and it says that she strengthens her arms so girls out there get in the

Mason Gregoiregym but yeah um so got to be attracted to her um let's see so personality wise uh I want a girl who has I was actually just talking about this with one my

Mason Gregoirebuddies she has goals in mind she doesn't just have these goals like I want her to desire to be a mother um to be a good wife uh to be like learning

Mason Gregoirenew things new skills that will help her multiply our house once it's established uh I want her to have those goals but I also want her to be chasing those goals currently in her

Mason Gregoiresingleness um I think it's crazy for women to think that I can chase all of these other things that are counterproductive to

Mason Gregoirebeing a wife mother whatever the things I want eventually I'm going to do all these things that are counterproductive to it and then all of a sudden switch and be like when I when I get married I'm just going to like turn it'll just

Mason Gregoirebe a FL it'll flip a switch and it'll turn on and yeah it's fine after that Ah that's kind of like a that's a that's a major red flag for me um I want her to be currently working towards being wife

Brian Atlasmother godly woman I have a question for you would you date a woman who is or was involved in sex work good question

Mercedesquestion who reformed can I add to that sure who's reformed anded uhuh and has given her well I don't want to say reformed I I know I know who has who has

SPEAKER_06surrendered herself to Christ yes that's a good question um I oh hold on yeah brickson from experi

SPEAKER_06in the face is painful the so the most interesting part of this is Guy Mass ways does she B what what so she um she

Brian Atlasactually doesn't speak English I've hired her to be my massage therapist because as you guys know I've been very stressed doing these shows so I figured and take I'll take a little load off if

Brian AtlasI have a massage therapist you know doing a little massage during so she's paid she doesn't speak any English though so um yeah but uh maybe the bow

Mason Gregoirewe'll do I'll I'll ask about the bow um I'll see if I can get a bow later thank thank you grid One Motorsports yeah um so yeah grid I'm sorry that this show has been painfully boring for you I

Mason Gregoireapologize sincerely um we'll get we'll get minutes we'll get there don't worry literally 5 minutes in yeah five minutes in this is not enough anyway answering that

Mason Gregoirequestion um yeah so short version of that answer is yes I would now I got to give a long version because that's kind

Mason Gregoireof wild but I think I mean so the caveat has to be she has repented so that that's the pattern of Salvation I mean

Mason GregoireChrist puts it forward and says You must repent and believe it's not just believe it's repent and believe so you must turn away from your sin and believe in me and that repentance is extremely important

Mason Gregoirebecause if you don't realize that you're sinful and that there are sins that you've committed then the belief is shallow cuz even the Bible says even the

Mason Gregoireeven the demons believe and they fear me so it's the repentance That's essential so in this instance it's okay if has she repented of her sin does she feel like

Mason Gregoiredo I see in her life there's a pattern of repentance of I know I sinned before and that is no longer who I am um I can

MercedesI can I yeah expl on that go for it so I see I've sin before what if she's what if she doesn't look at her past as a sin

Mason Gregoirebut more of a stepping stone to God so okay this this is a uh yeah a good point because because I believe that that sex work was a pathway to God for me so I wouldn't disagree with that

Mason Gregoireum I don't I obviously I don't know your story I don't know the the sins you've repented of whatever but I think God uses terrible things to bring people to

Mason Gregoirehimself I mean there's a proverb that says that uh the that the that man has his plan but God directs his steps so

Mason Gregoirethe intention of the man's uh the person's heart might be sin and evil but sometimes God uses our evil to bring

Mason Gregoireabout good so yeah I I don't say I I would agree with you that God can use the sin that we intend to bring about good because he's smarter than us and he

Mason Gregoireplans that stuff out so ideally I would say uh it would probably be better not to sin than to sin because we We There

Mason Gregoireis a righteous God yeah but uh but if it caused you to come to him I'm going to praise him for that but uh ultimately I

Mason Gregoirewant people to come to him so you would date a woman who was an ex sex worker there would have to like so the short answer is yeah but there would have to

Mason Gregoirebe like I would have to see proof after proof like she has totally changed like her attitude like how she behaves around guys like she's not she doesn't flirt around other dudes she's not participating in single Behavior so

Mason Gregoireshe's not going to clubs and like partying with her single friends like she is like I am practicing to be a wife a mother like I'm learn how to cook do all this stuff to serve my house I'm

Mason Gregoirelearning how to invest how to make money while my while my husband is out working like she's got to be is she's got to prove to me that this is no longer an effect on her life sex workers aren't

Olivia Bentleynecessarily going to the clubs cuz I don't and you got to pay me five grand an hour just to get me to to talk to you and spend time with you so five at the

Olivia Bentleyat the night club over at the bunny it's 5gs 5gs for an hour so and and I don't and I don't go to clubs go to clubs I don't even drink and I don't drug and I

Olivia Bentleydo Fitness competitions and it's it's actually like a career so um let's not St you like 20 minutes how much is it for 20 minutes we negotiate we can negotiate

Laurenshow every lady's different though too so they have different rates yeah to say speaking of it's not a lifestyle of of sex workers to be in clubs okay necessarily I'm not saying that like I'm

Laurennot saying that the sex worker is always going to be in the club I mean it's for some of you might find that your clientele there but whatever but he sounds like a real you sound like a real Christian though like a real one like a

Laurenreal one he's a real Christian he's not a fake Christian yeah the fake ones you can tell right away yeah you could but you're a real one I appreciate a real you're a real one he's a real speaking of Olivia speaking of the rates here and

Brian AtlasI have a bunch of questions for all of you guys you said that you your rate is 5,000 for an hour is that correct depending perhaps on the details could be more could be less and and then and

Olivia Bentleythen girls it's like we're independent contractors so we can negotiate so you know somebody comes in and they're like man you know I've been planning this trip for a long time and I don't have quite that but this is what I've got and

Olivia Bentleythen it's up to me okay what are you wanting what what what what you know what are we going to be doing together and let's say he smells great he looks great he passes the the DC the the penis

Olivia Bentleycheck right we're going to be looking at that Mak sure the dick check dick check and um and then maybe I say okay I'm going to come down for you because I like you and we're going to have a good time and that's my decision so

Olivia Bentleyultimately it's consent and it's to each their own mhm okay all right interesting interesting but it you know it there's always this assumption that we're easy

Olivia Bentleyyou coupons coupons military discount coupons Alice oh it dep it depends on who you are yeah I have my anytime special for

Olivia Bentleypolice officers service military discount you offer military discount but then after that the firefighters and the EMT guys wanted to get in on it because and so really

Olivia Bentleyit's like if you're in um if you are in a job of duress and you experience a lot of trauma I will give you a discount yeah doctors nurses what about podcast host it's a very

Brian Atlasstressful incredibly stressful J proposition um wait so the military discount police fire EMT what what is it a 10% discount 25% 25% discount yes

Brian Atlasanytime what does it depend what what branch of the military like can I ask you to exclude the Coast Guard I don't know if the Coast Guard

Laurenshould be maybe you give them like a 10% you know yeah yeah right yeah I just remember the guardian with Ashton Kutcher the co the Coast Guard movie I like war and movies for some reason I

Brian Atlasdon't know do any of you offer a discount like this like a military firefighter dis firefighter discount you got one yeah I

LaurenI have set rates so um all my rates are set um so um uh since I can't divulge on

Laurenon here but what the rates are yeah yeah they're all set though um it's less than 5,000 definitely like what my beginning

Laurenexperience is but um I do offer specials and then if it's someone's first time I do add an extra like 10 minutes sometimes because there could be nerves

Brian Atlasand you know it could be kind of time to warm up and enjoy themselves oh yeah okay 10 15 when you guys were when you were working when you were working any military discounts never did discounts

Alice Littleno discounts okay I never did discounts what about you Alice except for people that were handicapped but yeah oh okay all right yeah I tend to prefer guests that are looking to have

Alice Littleprolonged experiences with me and I also prefer guests that want to see me more than just one time I like the relationship aspect of this job and so I

Alice Littletend to favor guests that want to spend a longer period of time rather than show off I want to just get in there get off get out of there that's not so much my

Alice Littlething I see okay military discount of course yes and I just recently offered a

Alice Littlefree sex to the winner of the Formula 1 race oh wow guy oh at the Formula 1 in Las Vegas oh yes it was a tremendous event it

Alice Littlebrought $1.7 billion into our local economy which we are incredibly grateful for so I decided to throw it out there right on do you think Las Vegas he'll take you up on that the winner of the race you think

Brian Atlaswhy do you think that there was a hard deadline and we're like oh no we've got flights to got to go there's places to sure sure um okay so I think we oh I

Brian AtlasI had wanted to know how long have you guys all been doing sex work 15 years I would say about 15 years okay and the scope of the sex work has it always like did you start out like

Olivia Bentleydancing or stripping and then did it transition into you know escorting any I went right into the Bunny Ranch and I started a a real es Corp straight in and

Olivia Bentleythen I've I got my Master's Degree so I I'll come in and out at the beginning Dennis Hoff wanted me to do jump on the HBO special and do publicity and I said no my son is Young I spent no more than

Olivia Bentleya week and a half a month working and then I'd be home being um a stay-at-home mom and put my son through private school and then that inspired me to want to be a teacher and so I went and I've

Olivia Bentleybeen a teacher and I've been V VP of Business growth at an active management wealth company I did Real Estate during Co so coming in and out of of White Collar work has been important for me because I know that you know I've got

Laurenother things that I can do if I don't want to do this tomorrow okay uh so I well I've been doing sex work since I was

Lauren21 um I in high school I was always kind of conservative I came up from a really religious home and uh pretty much when I

Laurengot out of high school a lot of people thought I was gay um or they would call me Dyke um a lot yeah I would get called that a lot cuz I would I would wear pants suits I'd wear black I'd smoke

Laurencigarettes and just kind of be by myself and uh I remember I remember it was Valentine's Day one time and they're like I was like I don't have Valentine I don't have a guy and they're like guy I thought you were gay and I was like what

Laurenand so I my friend my friend was a a dancer at the time and I was like you know what maybe I should explore the side of my sexuality and try to come out of my shell because I'm kind of tired of being called like gay when I'm when I'm

Laurennot you know and um not that there's anything wrong with it it's just didn't want it uh that to be called that and so I did dancing and uh did Dancing for

Laurenlike 5 years then I did Playboy and after play boy um I worked independently and then that's when I got into the oh sweet too thank for the gifted 20

Laurenmemberships and that's when you got into well uh I had I was a victim of crime and obviously here I won't go yeah I go to super but um my friend was a porn star

Laurenat the time her name is Misty Matrix and she referred me to the ranch and then now I'm here everything's been safe and good since okay got it that's good uh

Annie Lobertwhat about you 16 years off and on so full-time 11 I started when I was 18 mhm got it what about you um I started when I was 17 I always say I feel like I'm

Mercedesstill in sex work stop the C sorry Sor sorry I I did not mean to press that go ahead go ahead I started when I was 17 that's actually a crazy story but I

Mercedesstarted when I was 17 and I danced for 10 years and I feel like I'm still in sex work it just looks different now sure okay and you've totally ceased

Alice Littlecorrect um or yeah like I don't go I don't strip or escort anymore I see gotcha what about you well I started working at the front desk of a BDSM

Alice Littledungeon in New York City City when I was 18 years old is it still around it still is what's it called well it's a privately owned Club so it's very very much

Brian Atlasso okay that's how I got my start was it like a swingers thing no it was a private BDSM Club where people go to

Alice Littlereceive a variety of Sensations often times on the more severe end of things from professionals who know what they're doing and are able to do so in a way

Alice Littlethat is safe risk aware if there are any risks and of course Very consensual I see okay and you worked the front desk I did how long were you on the front desk

Alice LittleI was on the front desk for about 2 years and I was also in charge of organizing the educational track so I was able to attend all these different classes and learn all these different

Brian Atlascool kinky things and eventually became an educator myself gotcha and so you you said how long have you been in the industry actually escorting or I've been

Alice Littleworking within the ranches since 2015 so almost 10 years now okay got it I'm curious so how

Olivia Bentleymany in a day how many clients do you see I'm only seeing now you know these days and I get to vet them very carefully I only see like clean

Olivia Bentleyprofessionals I see regulars so you know people I've built relationships with mhm maybe two guys a week oh two guys if yeah not much a long time ago yeah when

Olivia Bentleyyou were at the ranch or whatever that was W wild you know when the HBO special was really really popular um Dennis Hoff was just driving tons of people in from all over the world and sometimes maybe

Olivia Bentleyit would be as many as like five or seven guys a day that or in couples too we did a lot of couples so women included got and that's and that's a lot but um it's um a physical energy and I'm

Olivia Bentleyan athlete and it's one of those things it's like you get going you get your juices going and you you want to keep going sex athlete yes or like a different kind of athlete well never heard of that I I can't explain it you

Olivia Bentleyjust you want to go back for more sometimes when when you're making good money and you have this this um amazing physical experience and the serotonin's going um you know and I was a lot

Olivia Bentleyyounger and I just wanted to head on out there for more but now I'm training in the gym like half the day no no maybe maybe one guy a week maybe two guys a week um you know maybe they'll fly me

Olivia Bentleyover and we'll spend a weekend together I like to be a travel companion I like to spend you know long durations with these guys that I build a relationship how often are you traveling like being a

SPEAKER_06travel companion I'm traveling monthly okay so yeah has the panel talked about abortion SLC contraception how does everyone feel about and month abortions

SPEAKER_06I ask Beck as a team M I had an early abortion and it broke my soul came up $20 Super Chat so I don't

Brian Atlasknow it came up as a $20 Super Chat that's weird I already I already showed it oh um that must be something buggy with that thing uh go go and continue

Olivia Bentleyyeah so um I really appreciate just quality you know quality relationships ongoing friendships um um

Olivia Bentleyand I appreciate you know spending a great deal of time with people but um I'm trying how does the panel feel about L I'm um I'm training as a fitness

Brian Atlascompetitor these days so half my day is in the gym so um you know I'm not going to be getting it on all day I see okay

Brian Atlasgot it got it okay cool um let me hold on I need to fix that one sec guys that's bugged out um how often are you

Laurenseeing clients so you know typically I try to do you know just one person like if I mean I don't generally book every single day but if I could get one person

Laurenin the day that would be great if by chance there happen to be like someone they said no this is the only day I can do it and I really want you know run to see you and I'm not going to turn him down um but typically I try to keep it

Brian Atlasone in the 24 hours but if if there just happened to be another one I'd be like okay I'm not going to shut you off yeah well when you were at the working at one of the ranches how

Olivia Bentleymany people were you seeing then um in a day so in a week I guess well you know and again that that depends so maybe

Olivia Bentleymaybe you know maybe that day I saw three guys and then the next day I I got busy I went to the gym and then and then I didn't happen to book that day and then maybe the next day I saw you know

Olivia Bentleytwo guys so you know I would say on average Maybe maybe five Five Guys weekly um you know in in recent times in recent times okay yeah

Olivia Bentleyand but I've I've also learned I I want to Pace myself and I don't want to spend my whole day there I spend half the day out and about I go hiking I go to the gym I go with the girls out and I've

Olivia BentleyI've kind of learned to EB and flow my energy and how much I give of myself okay got it got it uh what about you when you were in the industry maybe if you had to average it

Annie Lobertout like how many guys in a day would you see I would say probably about 10 10 per day gotcha and on on slow Seasons five and if someone paid more money I spent more time with them obviously and

Annie Lobertif I traveled that was one person a day so but during busy Seasons like if Formula 1 came which it never did before so first time uh big sporting events

Annie Lobertprobably like 15 in the escort service in Las Vegas the more calls you get the more money you make and the escort services that I used to work for pushed

Annie Lobertus to get as many calls in as we could so it's like you got 20 minutes go I got five lined up after this one and so unfortunately that's part of their game um they try to make as much money as

Brian Atlaspossible off each person gotcha what what's the most you've ever seen in one day oh gosh I've never counted

Brian Atlasthat maybe because of a basor party 20 20 25 25 okay what about you guys 10 maybe 10 in the day I think 10

Mercedeswhen I first started gotcha what about you so when I was when I was escorting I was I just want to say like it's important to note that escorts prostitutes like whatever you want to

Mercedescall them we still have the ability to like choose who we want to be with so it's not like this thing where it's just like a guy is coming in and we're like yes yes yes yes yes to everybody we still have the option to choose

Mercedesso for me in particular I was very choosy um and I like you were saying I I really enjoyed having just like longer term customers so for me it'd be like

Mercedesone a month if that and I was very very like would only be with like celebrities celebrities or athletes that that was just my standard though so like that was

Mercedesthe criteria you use to measure yeah I I held like I guess a standard so I would be like okay if this is like a i would never go with like a regular a regular person MH mhm so is that kind of like

Alice Littlearound the table the same thing like what are the standards like what's the standard like this person is a yes this person is a no who somebody is matters a

Alice Littlewhole lot more at least for me personally than anything else and by that I mean the quality of the person are they going to be treating me well are they coming in with good intentions

Alice LittleI want to have a good experience just as much as the other person does I don't care what somebody necessarily looks like on a physical level their height their weight I certainly care if they're of legal age I certainly care that they

Alice Littlewant to be there consensually of their own free will but like I I'm not looking for celebrities I oftentimes find that my guests with disabilities are those

Alice Littlethe ones that treat me the best did you say how many clients that you see no I typically am only available by

Alice Littleappointment only I see maybe two to three people a week if that and even at the absolute most I'm like y'all are out here doing the most I'm over here like I

Alice Littlesaw three people once and that was really stressful what's the most you've seen in one day three and I'm over here like

Alice Littley'all are doing 25 damn it's a lot on the bodies oh my gosh yeah I find that the quality of the services that I'm able to provide is really important to

Alice Littleme and if I'm focused on like a quantity sort of thing I don't really know if that's going to result in good experiences for everyone a little earlier on in the conversation um you

Brian Atlasguys had mentioned getting arrested for what oh I've never been never Olivia my cents let let's he what was it

Laurenmurder manslaughter what are we talking here so okay so I uh in during Playboy days um we would go out to the club and I didn't want to be at the club anymore I just

Laurenwanted to walk back to my brother's hotel room cuz he got a hotel room and uh it it technically wasn't an arrest but I was picked up in the cop car and taken to the police department because I

Laurendidn't have an ID on me I guess I lost it and they thought that I was walking around and you know propositioning and uh I get taken to the police department

Laurenin Las Vegas and I'm sitting in the cell room and I I see this one lady by the toilet just me staring a hole through me like I was just like oh my God I'm so scared and then uh this other lady was

Laurenjust kind of lurking as well and finally I was just like oh God I hope they come in and like figure out I'm a real person and I'm you know they don't because they were checking my criminal record to see if you know anything came up and sure enough the guy's like all right you can

Alice Littleleave he's like let me let me get you out of here and I was like he's like just don't do that again and I was like all right and I walked right back to my brother's place don't do what don't walk

SPEAKER_06outside don't be a woman in public like be cute sounds hold on just to say stop the cap the only standard is the cash hits the table or the credit card clears

SPEAKER_06remember men do not pay hookers to stay they pay them to leave that's what the guys at the poker games would say opinion though yeah opinion that is an opinion I wonder how

Mason Gregoiremany sex workers that man has paid grid One Motorsports how many how many has it been is he um so be fair to grid one he he's trying to spice to show up because apparently it's

Annie Lobertextremely boring according to according a grid one yeah let's let's spice it up so yeah let's do it you said you were arrested a couple times is it related to

Annie Lobertes 25 times 25 24 times as an escort the first one was actually you know that cop show remember that yeah what you going to do I beg the vice

Annie Lobertnot to put me on that show I said my parents no but the person that started that show is the first person that ever arrested me Bill Young and with my friend roxan and it

Annie Lobertwas really embarrassing but they solicited me and the money was on the table and then when I got out from the bathroom because of course we have to make sure the room's safe he had

Annie Loberthis badge right where his parts were a he had no clothes on I was like what are you doing so inappropriate so anyway all that to say up going going to jail was like I was

Annie Lobertballing my eyes out I I'll never forget what I had on I had on a BB sweater with a little like patent white leather heart with patent leather white pants patent leather beautiful heels with studs on

Annie Lobertthem you guys I look like a Dynamo that night and I was so like mad because it was my first call and it was at the Stardust Hotel you guys I'm going to cry cuz I love the stardos hotel it got

Annie Lobertblown up all all the times that you got arrested how it was all for solicitation solitation and lering for solicitation which most of it was all like the vice would see me

Annie Lobertand if they saw me at another hotel they would just pick me up and take me downtown what about you guys have you guys been I've been in prison for for Fighting For Fighting M mine a lot of

Mercedesmine is um have has just been for fighting yeah okay um never in the club or from the industry though this was all like teen [ __ ] but then I I did have to go to prison for like 6 months and that

Mercedeswas horrific it was it was really bad um didn't it do much didn't it didn't reform me because I literally started stripping after that so Alice what about

Brian Atlasyou wow no I got detention once oh okay so wow hardened criminal hardcore hardcore so a lot of you it sounds like

Brian Atlasyou do the you do the escorting or did the escorting there's the ranch work have any of you done uh I I don't know what the appropriate term is like Street

Mercedeswalking yes I I coach a lot of Street walkers on how to Street walk no on uh women women who have done that and now are transitioning out and wanting to

Laurenknow like what's going on with them so no yeah I did um was that when you be you at the start or um it was in the quarantine I walked the streets of Reno

Laurenand I the streets Arena yeah and I I I remember at the time like I felt like I don't know I was kind of like you know rock and roll like I was kind of like wild and I was I just I had this trench coat this black trench coat and I'd walk

Laurenthe streets with my trench coat I'd go down to San dieg Tren coat trench coat black trench coat I is that the typical that was my typical yeah I had a I had a fish nuts no no fish nets I black leather uh like pants and then I had

Brian Atlasthis black trench coat and I had this dark eye makeup on were there specific streets that you can go to where it's kind of known downtown San Diego I I did this was in San Diego so you're just a

Laurencharacter in The Matrix yeah I know yeah I was it's so funny cuz the there's a there's actually a hooker in Grand Theft Auto and at the time cuz I dark hair she looked like me exactly I was going to say best GTA life you'd just be walking

Laurenand someone would like pull up in the car be like what what how's the process go walk me through it so they would um they would typically I never got in cars um but typically it would be people

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