Is Margot Robbie MID?! 2 GIRLS RAGEQUIT! | Dating Talk #85

Date: 2023-07-19

Duration: 5h 34m

Guests

Brian Atlas

TTiffany (DT85)>

BBethany (DT85)>

MMadison (DT94)>

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00TTS Reader(audience)

SPEAKER_01TTS Reader(audience)

SPEAKER_02Riley Lewis(guest)

SPEAKER_03Bethany(guest)

SPEAKER_05Tiffany(guest)

SPEAKER_06Lily(guest)

SPEAKER_08Ryan Rhino(guest)

SPEAKER_09Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_10Madison(guest)

SPEAKER_11Jenny Deal(guest)

SPEAKER_12Eve Marlowe(guest)

SPEAKER_14Adira Lore(guest)

Key Moments

IntroGuest introductions — Adira Lore through Madison in order at the table

“"hi my name is adira lore I am 28 years old I'm from LA and I do porn... hi my name is Eve Marlowe I am 31 years old... I'm Tiffany I'm 24... I'm Bethany I'm 18... I'm Jenny or dating coach deals... I'm Riley Lewis I'm 20... I'm Lily I'm 23 from Nashville... my name is Ryan I am 25... my name is Madison I'm 18"”

QuoteRiley Lewis introduces herself as a "virtual stripper" and explains it means OnlyFans

“"I'm Riley Lewis I'm 20 years old I'm from Hollywood and I am a virtual stripper... um I do only fans"”

RelationshipRiley reveals her one-sided open relationship and boyfriend's sudden wheelchair situation

“"I'm in a fully committed um one-sided open relationship... I'm not allowed to get with other people but um he's allowed to... he's been in a wheelchair because he's like kind of paralyzed right now"”

QuoteAdira rates herself 10/10 and argues everyone should call themselves a 10

“"I'm gonna fucking ride hard for myself and I'm gonna say I'm a 10 out of 10 and I don't care who the fuck has to say anything"”

QuoteLily reveals she slid into recurring Whatever guest Chase's DMs; he did not reply and she deleted the message

“"I did slip into his jams but I don't... I remember opening the DM I don't know... I think I deleted it... I got a little embarrassed"”

QuoteRiley reveals her boyfriend is currently in a wheelchair from acute autoimmune disorder

“"ever since my birthday which was about like a week and a half ago he's been in a wheelchair because he's like kind of paralyzed right now... it happened to him once before like three years ago"”

ControversyAdira Lore and Eve Marlowe ragequit the show mid-episode during self-rating/Belladonna debate

“"okay well that's my ride so" [Eve follows Adira out] ... "sorry guys we had two girls walk off the show"”

QuoteRiley tells story of ex-boyfriend who came out as gay after a skiing head injury; cheated with his male best friend

“"he went on this trip with his friends it was like a boys trip... he falls off the roof and he hits his head and I swear to you that that was when he turned gay... at some point in our relationship he cheated on me with a guy... it was his best friend"”

Key MomentJenny "Deal" demonstrates live Hinge coaching — role-plays messaging strategy with Brian

“"I just saw this coffee shop open up have you ever been it's called La La Land... are you free this weekend... I'm free on Sunday... all right that's perfect you want to meet at that coffee shop at three"”

ControversyMadison describes her reaction to catching a partner cheating — would grab the other woman by the hair

“"I would probably grab her hair pull that shit out drag her out of the apartment and then scream at him and then dip"”

QuoteTiffany reveals ex had a foot/shoe fetish and paid her $300/week to send heel-walking videos

“"it was a long distance relationship after I left Virginia so I would send him videos of me walking in heels and he would pay me for that... he would pay me like 300 a week"”

QuoteBrian plays Riley's TikToks showing near-identical content to his own — exposes plagiarism on air

“"would you be okay with your long-term monogamous partner going to a bar club party... [plays Brian's version] ...that sounds really familiar"”

QuoteRiley reveals her breast implants cost $15,000, paid by her parents

“"they weren't as bad as I thought they'd be actually... my parents actually paid for it... yeah 15 [thousand]"”

TopicBrian proposes "Thursdays with Riley" show as Riley's penance for plagiarizing his content

“"you are gonna host the Thursday show... every single week it's gonna be a dating talk but you're gonna host it... it will be called Thursdays with Riley"”

Topics Discussed

Introductions & Show Announcements

Brian introduces show; co-host Kiki mentioned as shy. Guests introduce in order: Adira Lore (28, LA, adult performer), Eve Marlowe (31, Las Vegas, matchmaker), Tiffany (24, LA, content creator/OnlyFans), Bethany (18, OC, model), Jenny "Deal" (22, Boston, dating coach), Riley Lewis (20, Hollywood, virtual stripper/OnlyFans), Lily (23, Nashville, lifestyle coach), Ryan "Rhino" (25, YouTuber), Madison (18, San Diego, student/bar host/co-host).

Relationship Status Round

Adira: newly in a relationship (ready to settle down), prior toxic relationships. Eve: recently single, out of 3-month relationship, single 5 years prior (married age 17-20). Tiffany: pretty single (~5 months since 3-year relationship). Bethany: single ~4 months, longest relationship 1 year. Jenny: single 1-2 months, happily dating around, texting Swiss musician "Lucas." Riley: one-sided open relationship (her boyfriend can see others, she cannot). Lily: single. Ryan: single. Madison: in relationship with Frankie.

Riley's Boyfriend in a Wheelchair / Open Relationship

Riley reveals her boyfriend (content creator) suddenly developed an autoimmune disorder a week and a half prior and is now in a wheelchair — second occurrence (first ~3 years prior, also resolved). She describes their one-sided open relationship established from the beginning of dating. Boyfriend flew her and another influencer to an island on their second date. Brian asks about intimacy logistics given the wheelchair situation.

Margot Robbie Mid Debate

Brian presents viral claim that Margot Robbie is "mid." Panel and chat debate whether she is overrated. Adira argues ratings are meaningless; Eve notes celebrities are compared against other celebrities not everyday people. Discussion of double standard: calling a female celebrity mid causes outrage; calling a male celebrity mid (Ryan Gosling, Timothy Chalamet, Beyonce, Michael B Jordan) gets no reaction. Ryan Rhino says female attractiveness standards are artificially inflated by makeup/surgery/professional photography.

Self-Rating Round

Brian asks all guests to rate their appearance on a scale of 1-10. Adira: 10 (argues everyone should say 10, makeup makes her look worse). Eve: 9. Bethany: ~7-7.5 (depends on makeup). Jenny "Deal": 5 in California, 7-8 in Boston depending on hair. Riley: 7-8 (upgraded herself after breast augmentation 2 months prior). Lily: 8-9. Ryan "Rhino": 6.8. Madison: 6.5 without makeup, 8 with full makeup. Brian: 6 without makeup, 7 with. Adira escalates into philosophical argument against the concept of self-rating, becoming increasingly agitated.

Two Guests Ragequit

Adira Lore and Eve Marlowe leave the show mid-episode (~1:16 mark) during the Belladonna/self-rating debate. Adira becomes upset when the conversation turns to Belladonna (famous porn star); she takes it as an affront. Eve says "that's my ride so" and follows. Brian and remaining guests react: the walkout was over a mild conversation, blue-haired girl (Eve) had originally reached out to request to be on the show. Show continues with 7 remaining panelists; seating arrangement is adjusted.

Ex Turned Gay / Toxic Relationship Stories

Riley tells story of her 3-year ex-boyfriend (ages 16-19) who cheated on her with his male best friend ~6 months before their breakup. Riley's theory: he fell off a roof on a ski trip and hit his head, which she believes caused the change. Signs she missed: wanted her to wear a short brown wig in bed, low sex drive in final months, spent more time with his best friend. Brian discusses phenomenon of women being attracted to dangerous/incarcerated men. Bethany tells story of fight with best friend who cheated with her ex.

Dating App Coaching / Hinge Role Play

Jenny "Deal" demonstrates her Hinge coaching methodology. Tips: X out standouts tab for more profile visibility, write specific prompts, send messages worth responding to (not "hey"). Brian and Jenny role-play a Hinge messaging scenario (Brian as girl, Jenny as guy). Discussion of getting a date quickly vs extended digital pen-pal stage. Tiffany plays gamer girl character. Role play proceeds through first message to date confirmation. Panel debates how many texts are needed before asking for a date.

Cheating Response / Would You Fight?

Brian poses scenario: you come home to find your partner cheating mid-act. Panel responses: Madison would grab the other woman by the hair and drag her out. Riley would leave in silence and block. Bethany would go "ape shit" and attack both. Tiffany would cause a scene then leave. Jenny would pack and leave silently. Lily would walk out without violence. Ryan would walk out smoothly. Discussion of whether the severity changes if the third party is a close friend (unanimous: yes, double betrayal). Brian argues rational response is to leave the partner, not fight the stranger.

Dating Dynamics: Who Initiates / Men vs Women

Brian asks what percentage of first dates are initiated by men — consensus ~99%. Discussion of whether men and women have equal dating options; classic adage "women sleep with who they want, men sleep with who they can." Madison challenges Brian's use of the saying. Discussion of boss-babe success as attractive to men (Ryan argues men do not care about a woman's income). Riley argues biggest predictor of divorce is woman earning more than man. Jenny discusses how men's attraction patterns relate to their mother figures.

Sugar Daddies / Financial Simping

Tiffany reveals she had a long-distance ex who had a shoe fetish and paid her $300/week to send videos of herself walking in heels; $1,000 at a time occasionally. Riley has online sugar daddies via OnlyFans only (no in-person meetups). Lily receives $100/week from a man just to text him (non-sexual). Madison paid $500 for a gift to a guy she was seeing for 3 months who was also seeing other women. Bethany had informal sugar daddy arrangements met at clubs (received ~$2,400 cash + ~$5,000 total from one man including a Vegas trip and beach house weekend). Discussion of AI girlfriends and pay pigs.

Nice Guys vs. Toxic Behavior / Attraction Patterns

Discussion of whether women are attracted to bad behavior or confident behavior. Brandon's saying: "if you treat her like dirt she'll stick to you like mud." Ryan describes his own trajectory from nice guy to less attentive and how his dating results improved. Jenny argues it is about selecting for the right type of woman. Madison observes younger women often prefer a bit of edginess while mature women prefer stability. Brian discusses women who write letters to incarcerated men; evolutionary attraction to men capable of violence as protection signal. Discussion of makeup-sex after arguments.

Riley Plagiarism Gag / "Thursdays with Riley"

Brian plays several TikTok clips of Riley Lewis using near-identical language to Brian's own YouTube/podcast content — same "would you be okay with your monogamous partner being pursued at a bar" premise, same "everything around you was built by men" argument, same "big dick energy" gender double standard bit. Riley admits to "plagiarizing" Brian's content, claims she started TikTok recently and didn't realize it was frowned upon. Brian proposes "Thursdays with Riley" — a weekly dating talk show hosted by Riley from the Whatever studio, with Brian as background presence.

Transcript

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Ryan Rhinowould go to and she was like you know obviously work makes no little to no money and I was like I would save her I didn't

Ryan RhinoI didn't save her but uh nah it's uh it's one of those things that yeah even even intelligence too like I would say I want a smart girl like I

Ryan Rhinowould want a girl who knows what she's doing but I'll find myself even speaking to girls who are not smart but I don't even care like I care that they're they

Ryan Rhinohave EQ but not necessarily IQ I almost like knowing more than the girl so I can be telling her how the way of the world and she's like I didn't even I never even knew that until you told me I

Ryan Rhinoalmost enjoy that as opposed to a girl that's super Brainiac that knows everything and makes money I would almost prefer if she worked at Wendy's and didn't know much

TTS Readerthat way I could I don't know I would like that um nine dollars great show as always Brian

TTS Readergonna have to catch the VOD Lily is hand down the cutest guest huford since pilot girl if you're ever in Texas I'd happily take you on a gym date

Brian Atlasoh [ __ ] I'm from Texas oh you're from Texas but I live in Nashville but I'm from Houston um so you're saying your DMs are open yes

Brian Atlaswhat if he's not a Christian man though is that deal breaker yes Jay are you a Christian man you're gonna have to be and you have to wait until marriage brother

Brian Atlasso there is that there is that okay uh so ah my thoughts on this I don't think yeah it does it for me

Brian Atlasif a girl her money it's kind of like irrelevant it perhaps might be relevant if she's actually prepared to like simp

Brian Atlasbut like most chicks who make money like are not really men women do not share their resources with men the same

Brian Atlasway that men share their resources with women so like there's no men don't reap any benefit in the like by dating a successful woman

Brian Atlasthe same way that the woman might reap a benefit by being with a successful man because women really don't like I'm not saying some women do but generally

Brian Atlasspeaking I'd say most women are not super like down to really SIM for dudes or share their resources with men even successful women you'll hear from them they still want the guy to pay for the first date they'll be

Brian Atlasoffended if the guy won't pay for the first date so there's just even on that Financial level men don't benefit benefit from a woman's success or her finances or her

Brian Atlasmoney so it's like why would it be something that we find attractive and then just on a biological evolutionary level like men you know we traditionally historically were providers protectors

Brian Atlasso it's kind of like we don't look to women to provide or protect for us so it's just it's not an attraction trigger

Jenny Dealone framework that I think would contribute to this is the idea that men are valued or a man's social standing is much more determined by money whereas Woman by Beauty yeah so if you try to

Jenny Dealswap it then it just becomes a little bit oh I guess if she'll pay first off just like if you have a really attractive man but he's broke it's like well I guess he's cute it's a lot more

Jenny Dealexciting to look at like a normal guy will benefit more from having a beautiful woman by his side than just a rich woman and

Jenny Dealan average woman would probably enjoy having a wealthy media like average wealthy man than a really sexy broke man let's go around the table on that I want to hear everyone's thoughts on it broke

Brian AtlasI think you know what though I think it changes by age too because for example if you're in college like you're not I don't think you're particularly you know 18 to 22. I don't

Brian Atlasthink you're super preoccupied with the money a guy makes uh like because if you're in college everybody has money most people don't have money so

Brian Atlasum but uh broke hot dude or a rich ugly dude yeah Rich Man

Bethanylike average I'm gonna go hot broke guy interesting right yeah okay yeah like my ex was broke but it was hot y'all were teenagers oh no it wasn't hot okay wow

Tiffanyyou got no he was he was okay okay he was okay what about you well about like neither it's not like an ugly broke dude it's just like I'm I'm trying to be really

Tiffanypicky with my next relationship because like the next guy I think is like the guy that I want to like actually marry so it's like I don't think I want to settle for like um

Tiffanysettle for like a mid to ugly rich guy or like a broke really you want the total package yeah if I had to wait like three three I have a question you do only fans right yeah yeah do you what kind of

Brian Atlascontent you make have you done any BG content boy girl content um like porn like you know you can subscribe and find out well I don't want to visual I don't want

Tiffanyto visual I'm just like have you made that kind of content come on you can answer I mean like yes okay okay so what's the follow-up to that

Brian Atlasquestion have you done a lot of BG no content but you have it's out like you have done BG content yeah I mean do you have any concerns that because you've done well I mean BG content but like really any sort of adult content you have any concerns

Tiffanythat you know that's going to impact your romantic prospects well I mean actually I feel like um I my dating life has been like better

Tiffanyever since I made and only fans actually and like like I don't know I usually only talk to guys if they're like okay with me having an only fans and I'm sure

Tiffanyguys that talk to me know that I have an only fan so they're willingly putting themselves through dating me right I think like nowadays a lot more guys are like or at least the guys that I

Brian Atlastalk to are okay at the fact that I do have and only fans part of me I've heard from a lot of girls on this I think on one hand and maybe Ryan you

Brian Atlascan weigh in on this I think some guys cope they're like oh if she does only fans like it's she's done for she's never gonna get married I think part of that

Brian AtlasI think it is a bit of cope from Men who are like but I I do think there are a decent proportion of men also that would not

Brian Atlastake seriously for a long-term relationship or marriage or to have children with someone who's done sex work um Ryan what what's your stance on this would you you date a girl who does only

Ryan Rhinofans or who with it maybe have some hesitations what's your yeah I think yeah the point of if you have only fans you're never going to find anyone that's not true men are so desperate to get

Brian Atlastheir slimy fingers on anything it doesn't matter there's a lot of Sims that's what like it's cope I think it's a bit of cope to be like they're never gonna throw there's a lot of Sims out there probably dudes that like sub to

Brian Atlasyour only fans that would probably jump at the [ __ ] chance to be in a relationship but I'm not it's not clear to me if these girls would want to date a customer that's another thing but but I think

Ryan Rhinoyou're immediately like omitting let's say a whole population of guys that you could have dated previously by having an

Ryan Rhinoof so if your dating pool is all the guys when you have an of that takes out I don't know what percentage let's call it 25 I don't know 50 percent of high but you won't you'll you'll never know

Ryan Rhinowhat you're missing out on because they'll simply be gone and you'll simply be with your dating pool that will date you so it's kind of like a up to your own personal preference if you're willing to make that risk like am I

Brian Atlaswilling to cut out half my potential Partners am I willing to cut that out it's completely up to the girl yeah I think that is a good point that there's certainly going to be I think like with

Brian Atlasanything well maybe not like with anything because I think there's there let's I'm not trying to be offensive to anybody but there is to some degree a stigma associated with sex work I not trying to make any judgments about

Brian Atlasany of the girls on the panel here I'm sure you all agree though that there is a stigma whether it's deserved or not whatever your stance on it may be there is some degree stigma associated with sex work so there is a subset of men a

Brian Atlasgroup of men a cohort of men that are just flat out not going to want to date a girl who does only fans or who's done porn yeah but if and I think that was a good way

Brian Atlasyou put it it could be ten percent twenty percent who knows maybe 50 um there's still a I mean that's still a large pool of of men you know but

Ryan Rhinoyeah it's it's and then and then girls also have to understand that men will put girls in categories like this girl is a recreational use only type of girl and then this one is a I'm really trying

TTS Readerto show this girl to my parents type deal yeah 173 donated 99

TTS Readeryes I'm a Christian in Houston as well my DMs are also open okay I'm leaving now good night everyone oh [ __ ] wow okay

Brian Atlasbye Jay oh all right she's blushing a little bit amen she's blushing a little bit Jay hey Jay thank you for your TTS man appreciate it uh did you have more you wanted to yeah that was kind of it just

Ryan Rhinouh uh some girls will disqualify themselves and not even know it by doing certain things but yeah uh I don't know it's kind of just

Ryan Rhinome personally I wouldn't do it because you know if I'm gonna actually marry a girl and take her seriously yeah I wouldn't bring that type of girl to my parents and my mother and father

TTS Readerbecause I wouldn't be able to sleep with myself then the offender donated 99 for the of girls if you meet the man you want to marry but he told you no only

Tiffanyfans would you delete it if he can like provide for me then yes I would delete it I don't want to do anything

Tiffanyno shoes oh what the [ __ ] you should have asmr'd that [ __ ] on stream like if man's had the money to like provide for me and like I'll be like your housewife then

Tiffanylike yes I will like 100 delete it like I don't want to do only fans forever that's like not like my end goal you know what I mean yeah so if if I met the man of my dreams and he was like delete your only fans

Tiffanyand he could afford to supplement to you know supplement me and him then yeah how much how much money would a guy need to make for that to be the case I mean I never really put deep thought

Brian Atlasinto it but I don't know just throw a number a good amount a good a million dollars a year what kind like what kind of Lifestyle do you want to live you know

Tiffanyum I don't really care that much about having a very luxurious lifestyle I'm just like you know like if I'd be pretty happy if I was just like a housewife like you know like have kids

Brian Atlaslike stay at home like clean cook blah blah just get taken care of with like 100k do it for you like 100 for like me set aside for me no like he makes 100K a

Lilyyear that's puts him in the top 10 to 10 maybe top 15. because you said you wanted a man to make at least like the same as you or a little more right yeah

Tiffanyso like how much but like that's like the like same as me but like that's like if we were still both making income together it's like I feel like so that's like double like you know dual income but like

TiffanyI feel like you would definitely have to make like a lot more if he just wanted me to quit my job you know because like I want to live comfortably too I'm thinking about that concept like I don't

Ryan Rhinoknow how much you make but let's assume there's a guy that makes more than that do you think he would choose you or a girl who didn't have a of if you had the option

Ryan Rhinoyou see what I'm saying like it's gonna to kind of I guess buy you in a way like he's a guy at a date she was gonna have to have money right you see what I'm

Tiffanysaying I would hope so yeah so it's like if a guy has that much money do don't you think he would find a girl who didn't do what you do or is that a crazy guy I mean like maybe but like his

Tiffanyquestion is if is like if I would delete my only fans if the guy wanted me to um yeah I'm just thinking like if I'm a multi multi-millionaire I would probably just pick the girl that

Ryan Rhinodoesn't have one so I don't have to worry about asking but that's just me personally you're not the one for her yeah it just takes one for a lifelong partner it's valid I mean I'm friends with plenty of prawn people and stuff

Bethanythey don't but yeah just have to put that out there I don't do only fans but I would 100 if I did 100 stop it

Bethanyif you're gonna marry right if I was gonna sure yeah I would but I mean I don't do this would you say do you make half a million dollars a year

Tiffanydo you make below or above that well I just started making like a lot of income so um I don't really know how to answer that yet yeah for annual

Brian Atlasbecause yeah so if if the current income you're making now continued for another year would you be making over half a million dollars I don't feel comfortable answering that

Brian Atlaswell the IRS ain't coming for you you're good I'm homies with that I know but like I don't feel comfortable answering that it's even a range hey that's fun no I'm just curious like just to get a

Brian Atlassense of how much the guy would have to earn to match your level because if you're making like 50k a year on only fans

Brian Atlasthere's like a decent amount of I think the average income for men is like 45 000 a year or something so there's like a decent amount of men that are close to your income range but like the thing

Brian Atlaswith content creation I've got some content creators here like you can like the scale that you can make money uh it's insane so like you can make 100K in

Brian Atlasa month doing content doing only fans uh so I'm just like trying to get a sense because there's some chicks on only fans who make six figures a month like that's a top one in terms of income

Brian Atlaslike only one person I think less than one percent of men are making that much money so at that point you're after like a top

Jenny Dealone percent man when it comes to income I think if men can set the boundary openly that they wouldn't date someone with an of then the of creators can set

Jenny Dealthe boundary of saying that they don't want to share how much they make just because just because she said no multiple times yeah

Brian Atlasno that's that's fine just we were yeah it wasn't like really I don't know oh yeah if you don't want to share that's that's totally fine um so okay I'm trying to remember where the where we were uh how do we get onto

Riley Lewisthe we're talking about I think the legit question like for the oh it was a TTS that came up what's that uh like just the question for like if you would stop oh yeah and do you want to answer this since you do OS

Riley Lewisum yeah so I mean personally I really like what I do I have a lot of fun doing it and I only post what I want to post and I feel like if I was going to be marrying a guy that you know

Riley Lewishe would we would have probably already crossed that bridge and he would probably be okay with it because I don't think I would be with somebody who wouldn't be okay with something that I like to do and something that I have fun doing

Riley Lewiswait do you said you have fun doing it yeah I I love making content where you have fun doing of yeah do you have fun doing of yeah it's fun

Tiffanybut like I mean do you enjoy it because of the money you make um I mean maybe like a little bit of both because it's like I get to like take pictures and look pretty you know and I

Brian Atlasget like paid to do that so it's like fun it's like a fun job okay we have Mr Cappadocia here hey man thank you for the soup chat ladies why why do you think you'd make a good co-host for the whatever podcast I mean I didn't know that was on the

Brian Atlastable but I don't I think I would actually you know what we

Brian Atlasshould we bring on another you oh it's up to you it's your it's your show okay you're gonna have to move to Santa Barbara and then we're gonna put you like half the time you're not you're

Brian Atlasgonna be in the corner like we're just happy it's the background character you're just gonna be like this but you're gonna be on the other side so the Matt uh Madison's on this side and then you're on that side and it's I really

Brian Atlaslike this it's all good we don't even get a mic we don't even get a mic we need to sit back you just sit there and make weird faces and like she's been doing so it's a good gig it's a solid

Brian Atlasgig you know it's uh you know it's it's making a change in the world you're really impacting the next generation of people so yeah it's uh it's good um let's see I think we're all caught up on

Brian Atlasthese soup chats um before we wrap up here

Brian Atlasuh I'd like to give everyone like one last opportunity if there's anything uh if there's anything dating related any of you would like to get off your chest

Brian Atlasuh maybe you have a hot take maybe you have a something that's frustrating you about dating uh I'd like to go around the table on

Brian Atlasthis so let's start with you go ahead hot take more like something dating related you want to get off your chest men are

Bethanypissing you off in some way maybe there's something frustrating about dating just anything well we we were actually talking about this in the car how do you guys do you guys think that

Bethanyguys and girls can just be friends like because like you don't think so nope okay because um like I have like a guy best friend and I don't think it would ever do anything and then like I know

Bethanylike like when I when you're dating a guy and he has like girl best friend that's like a huge thing so do you who thinks like who thinks they could just like it could be I think it could be true like you're

Lilytruly just friends but it's definitely not gonna be good for your relationship to have a best friend I think it depends on the boundaries that you set with

Lilythe friend that's the opposite sex like I have a best friend who is my he's one of my best friends in the entire world and he is my brother and I am his sister

Lilywe have completely different political religious and moral views and it would never work and we do not view each other in any way other than platonic and so I don't think I would get in the way of his partner and he would never get in

Ryan Rhinothe way of my partner because I'm not getting any emotional stability from him he's just one of my really close friends you think your appearance has any play

Ryan Rhinointo it like if you were let's say 550 pounds and had Burns all over your face is he still going to be your best friend sorry for the burn victims I mean I

TTS Readerdon't know donated 100 I like what I do I post what I want to post three you are not a teen you are an adult you need to have adult

TTS Readerlimits and think about the repercussions of your actions imagine having a little kid affecting your man's image coming across any circumstances

Riley Lewiswhat is this for me um I think it's I think it's for me um I mean I have thought of the repercussions of my actions um again I only post what I want to post

Riley Lewisand I am comfortable with what I've posted up until this point and um I don't think that it would affect my life um in the future with you know a family and kids

Brian Atlasyou don't think it happens I don't think so not with not with what I post I mean do you have any concerns about bullying for like perhaps the kid might get bullied I mean if you have if you want to have kids I don't even know if like

Riley Lewisonly fans is going to be a thing like when I'm having kids you know like it might be something bigger if anything internet you know yeah maybe AI

Riley Lewisforever well internet for everything yeah I mean it's true I mean everything is on the internet forever like little

Brian AtlasTimmy and his friends right yeah teenagers are brutal ruthless hey [ __ ]

Riley LewisMaximilian I just saw your mom getting three ways I feel like Everyone likes having a hot mom no like I don't I don't see any problems but it comes to an

Lilyexcuse where it's like you your friends actually like see your hot mom and then you see your hot mom naked like naked yeah oh yeah I feel like if I saw my mom naked on a site I'd be like really

Tiffanytraumatized well it happened to Kim Kardashian she survived I mean she said that I mean isn't her family a mess yes like that's the fun I would not looked at them I

Brian Atlasdon't know if Kim Kardashian's the best uh look she's extremely wealthy and successful financially but her she's been divorcedence

TTS Readerthe worst anyways like the divorce rate is so high apostolandis called Victor donated 100. thank you Victor internet is a cruel place I don't judge you but it's a fact if your man will be into

Brian Atlaspolitics or business there will be a Witch Hunt if you do of if your kid is vulnerable everyone will jump on it much love Bree Bree huh how dare you call me

Brian Atlasuh yo Victor thank you very much for your TTS man appreciate it uh yeah I do think that is a like if your boyfriend or husband or whatever he

Brian Atlasthere are certain careers maybe where it doesn't matter but if like I don't know if he goes to like an important business function or he's a politician like I don't think you would ever see like um

Brian Atlasa major politician it it would probably impact his electability for example if his spouse was

Brian Atlaslike did porn you know we can dip whether that's right or wrong you know we can have a conversation but like practically speaking I do think it might

Lilyhave a negative impact on like if you're trying to run for office or you know have some business function in like a few episodes ago we did bring up

Brian Atlaslike an article about like a kid whose mom did like deleted him or he was yeah he like desires of deleting himself good yeah wow

Brian Atlasyou pulled it up well you're bringing it up okay oh I was just saying because we were talking about that but sure um okay we were going around the table I believe I'm trying to recall we were we

TTS Readerwere at her oh we were talking I think holy [ __ ] these guys around the fire donated 99 we need to get these girls for the child is that your content may circulate throughout the school past the

Bethanyfriend group then it becomes a serious issue I was thinking about it it's kind of crazy like like in 20 years how many kids parents like nudes are just gonna

Bethanybe out there like if you think about how many people do only fans and porn like there's gonna be a lot of that maybe that could be something the friends can

Brian AtlasBond about yeah oh here oh yeah this is my mom's milkers

Brian Atlasoh my mom has bigger tits than you what's up comparing about but um good times good times wow the TTS

Brian Atlaspeople are really going in on the uh you guys I hope you guys have thick skin oh yeah yeah well you don't do of no I don't is it in the it's in the pipeline

Brian Atlasthat's in the works no okay okay all right um you were saying like friends can men and women be friends yeah yeah

LilyI I don't know our our friendship and our like our relationship is based off of things that of our trauma and we've helped each other through it so I don't

Lilythink that this what I looked like would ever have to do with what he went through and what I helped him get through and what he's helped me get through I think looks can definitely add to it though say like if you have like a

Lilyvery attractive boy best friend yes it would be and then for your significant other because it's like oh you're best friends with like a really hot dude like there has to be something and I'd go I

Lilydo also agree that men and women cannot just be friends eventually one or the other is going to have an attraction whether it's physical mental emotional eventually there's just no way to stop

Brian Atlasthat especially if they're both straight I think women can be friends with men but I I don't know if men yes can be friends yeah that yeah yeah yeah yeah because like actually you know what

Brian Atlasmaybe we can do it well first off let's just say who thinks men and women can genuinely be friends show of hands and you're saying you have like a really close male friends correct Dawson best

Brian Atlasfriend you're are you single currently yes yes he's single currently yes can you pull up your phone pull out your phone right now text and be like is he watching can you I don't think we can't we can't do a call just because California wiretapping laws should I

Brian Atlasjust say well I want you I want you to make it believable so I want you to text him and it has to be does he know you're on the show because you guys are best he

Brian Atlasdoes should I is he watching right now I have another guy best friend here how many male friends do you have I have a lot okay I want you to text every single one every single one every single one of

Brian Atlasthem all these friendships are going to be burned to the ground I want you to um what's like something like that doesn't make it seem like it's an obvious like I know I can't just say you

Bethanydon't [ __ ] you could say hey I don't know we're like asking like you can ask something awesome you like come

Lilyover with suggestions no I think yeah winky face well do you text like that like no no wait wait how about how about instead of likely you know to answer already instead of going for a hookup what about it's something more like

Brian AtlasHey listen um like a confession of Love yeah like I have something on my heart but like I've been wanting a confession of like Hey listen but that's so awkward for him and

Brian Atlasfor their friends yeah you might ruin your friendship that's just like a bridge no I'm telling you he's not yeah just listen there's plenty of men out there you can be friends sabotage all your friends okay uh send okay so send

Brian Atlaschat maybe chat can help us yeah I understand I need help what is the what should the verbata message be that she's going to send to seven of your male friends okay listen

Brian Atlasthat that's it three let's do three three is a good number lucky number threes wait there's a saying about three right yeah um okay

Brian Atlasum just broke up with my boyfriend she's single I'm single um super direct just be like hey what's up

BethanyI'm horny I was on I was thinking that hey I'm gonna be home alone I'm gonna be home alone later tonight what about this is like not super direct but like

Tiffanywhat about hey are you down to cuddle is that oh that's weird I think the Home Alone one is good I think what you just said

Lilyyeah I just want to kick it yeah oh yeah that could be good I think cuddle is good do you want to cuddle because no one asks friends you won't

Lilyyou won't like say like I'm home what's up

BethanyI do that with my friends all the time I think it's still friendly it could still be friendly can we hey are you doing what if I'm like hey I'm home alone tonight you want to come over and

Brian Atlascuddle boom it's good maybe with a winky face

Brian Atlasa little semicolon yeah [Music] this is weird texting this blast it out just blast it out and then we're gonna see what's wrong if you want to say you

Bethanywere joking it's on camera yeah then you can just yeah you just say hey Amazon okay that's one what did you send I said I'm home alone later tonight I want to come over and cut I think that's coming

Bethanyover did you do a winky face I did do it but not the Emoji like it was like the actual there we go yeah [ __ ] emojis this guy's on a trip so I'm gonna say you literally use it

Brian Atlasover this is a cuddle I'm like oh [ __ ] he's in the chat he's in the chat oh what oh my God another guy another guy another guy okay um it's too late you said you have seven dudes wait okay yeah

Lilyhe's in the chat it's not gonna work um even perfect that means immediate response yeah he'll respond faster I gotta pick this no but like wait you got to take it no I gotta pick a good one

BethanyI hope you're not watching Dawson yo Dawson get out no Dawson send her a message like he's single right yeah yeah are you DTF Dawson like what are you Spanish and and

Brian AtlasNishi and wonder I could do I don't think he's watching are you into Dawson though no am I am I playing love me or Matchmaker Matchmaker no you're just friends no best friends

Brian AtlasL's in the chat for Dawson I'm sorry bro I tried I tried my best oh he answered she said I'm in Hawaii what the [ __ ] all

Bethanycaps yo he wants he wants to get lazy what about when you get back huh so when you get back is he he said I'm in Hawaii he didn't

Brian Atlassay no dude he's so someone says if he's not your friend did you do the third guy [ __ ] [ __ ] do the hit the third guy okay

Bethanyokay well Loki I feel like these other guys might be just send it to seven [ __ ] it send it copy paste the message um but yeah I don't

Brian Atlaswhat what was that what did he say someone said something okay oh wait you don't yeah respectfully nah he's watching though that's not fair no he's not oh this is a difference that's

Bethanythe Hawaii guy no this is a different guy damn Dawson's Creek live respectfully ain't no way it's a TV show from this is this is nishian and he said respectfully no that's one guy nishian Wonder

Madisonit's a fun name okay is that like what what else you got for us wait can you make that facial expression again

Brian AtlasI think we missed it but yeah she made that facial expression what what you got for us what what do you say what do you say here I'll show can I just show you you would say here I'll read it how about that

Brian Atlasbecause yeah yeah don't don't say anything I can't read it once you're done with your home don't read it don't read it to yourself

Lilyokay that was respiteful oh that was respectful uh not really are you serious no

Bethanyyou don't no no wait so you're messing with his homie yeah Oh I thought you were single

Bethanyum we're like single we're like talking you're talking single enough okay the other guy said the 23rd because I said when do you get back a Hawaii man okay say Do you wanna

Brian Atlaswin any other girls here at the table want to give this one a crack do you have any male friends do you have any male friends do you have any male friends you're in a relationship Frankie knows my mind yeah well you're in a

Brian Atlasrelationship are you down the text one of your male friends and see if they're will you text a male friend see if he's down too will you text the male friends let me make sure he's not watching

Lilyfriends and they say no no I want to see because I feel like one late one of at least one lady friend would say yeah I don't have any female friends what I'm not friends

Ryan Rhinowith men I'm friendly but I don't have any female friends protect your piece like yeah I don't think I would it's a great great yeah they're just they're friendly or business relations did you just fart

Lilyshould I send the same message yeah wait Nick have you pulled up these supers that are pending hi Gary I miss you it's one of my friends

Lilydid you did you pull those up okay just yeah you saw that really is that a Pokemon tattoo yeah

Tiffanyit's a luxray based it's cute thanks paste have you heard back wait I don't even know if he's gonna look for you guys

Brian Atlasdo you think it's tough what are you doing microphone Madison no I'm just what do you really do they look at do they look at yourself

Jenny DealI don't know I've always I've always wondered that I feel like that'd be one thing I'd be scared of if I if I were to do it I'd be like dudes yeah oh wait read it read it um just said oh my goodness uh tell Riley I say hi

Brian Atlason your end bro didn't tune in in the beginning okay we'll check back in on that a little bit um here we'll move let's keep it moving so we can try to wrap up here pretty soon

Tiffanyum I've got a long drive do you have anything dating related that you'd like to get off your chest I have like a funny kind of like a funny like not necessarily story but something to say my ex used well one of my exes he

Tiffanyused to get turned on whenever I cried oh no yeah like I would actually be like yeah no like sad crying like he would get hard yeah I feel like it's because guys

Lilyare like oh like you're like a little baby it turns me on like I would be but you like me that much hmm yeah I don't know I'd be like bawling my

Tiffanyeyes out and then he would take my hand put it on his dick and it was hard that's so sad was this like a Pavlov's dog thing where

Tiffanylike did you start that you started crying and then you started getting like horny too kind of no no no no no no no no what did you do I was just like I mean I kind of laughed at it because he like told me beforehand like

Tiffanyum I think like a month or two until I was dating he was like yeah like I I don't know like it just happens like it happened with my ex it's like oh okay and like I don't know I just I told him

TiffanyI was like you know is that why you um don't you're not really like empathetic with me when I cry because you get turned on because like he wasn't really that good with comforting me either yeah there's

Brian Atlassomething so I don't know good times yeah I get turned off if a girl's crying really that's a that's kind of a turn why certainly not a turn on like oh yeah

Tiffanyshe's [ __ ] sad let's go you know that's so weird because I don't know he was like oh you just look so cute are you pretty crier

Brian AtlasI don't know I guess he got turned on when you cried like because some people will cry about small things or anything like would you actually be crying over

Tiffanysome heavy [ __ ] and he'd like oh my God my [ __ ] pet fish just died and you're starting to cry and he's like bro I'm sorry about your fish but let's [ __ ] the one time that I do remember crying and

Tiffanyhe told me that he was hard tough crap was when I I was like going away for like a little while and I was gonna see him okay so I was like crying about that

TiffanyI was like he got hard it was going away it's an emotional way sex situation over something stupid like I'm getting like really frustrated over something and I cry about it like you would still

Tiffanyget hard what do you get frustrated over like I I don't know I can't really think of an example because I like to blank out my trauma but like uh yeah okay

Brian Atlasawkward just kidding I'm kidding that's uh that's an interesting Kink yeah but like okay so hold on you didn't tell us though

Brian Atlasyou cry he gets a stiffy do you go along with it or you're like no babe stop I think one time one time I let him [ __ ] me while I was crying while you were

Tiffanycrying yeah did it ever take you out of a cry like you're crying and you're like bro he's at full Mass let's [ __ ] go I think it was like get that one time that one time because like I feel like

Madisonit's kind of hard to like cry and have sex at the same time I don't know have you guys ever tried that no no no no okay because like I mean like it was like a one-time thing one time yeah

Brian Atlasyou know what's the chair I'm not gonna say it never mind okay like this oh my God this is kind of Haram but okay

Brian Atlashave you know it's kind of like Ryan you know okay here we go have you ever been

Brian Atlashave you ever been inside of a woman and she like coughed and it like squeezed we can control that yeah I'm wondering

Lilyif a girl crying could have an impact on the [ __ ] you know what I'm saying like what if it was I feel like that's also laughing like if a girl laughs oh yeah yes you know like

Lilythe hold on let me make it like you know it squeezes you you can't you [ __ ] squeezers yeah

Brian Atlasno but like if bro having sex with a girl when she's sick bro if she's coughing it's on it's game over here

Ryan Rhinobecause I'm sick and she's coughing bro you would really catching like she just

Ryan Rhinoalways have a whooping cough we gotta get it in right now you have that coughing fit we gotta get it in whooping cough [ __ ] is the best [ __ ]

Brian Atlaschicks with [ __ ] diseases I'm not like people like one time I did

Brian Atlaslike Google like like women with uh with like lung cancer I did kind of I'm kidding I'm kidding I'm kidding I'm joking um I was just I'm just saying Bro you've never like your chick was sick

Tiffanyand [ __ ] she'd be coughing and [ __ ] and you're like oh kind of feels good so like whenever you do like it you're like hell yeah huh so whenever like your girl gets sick you're like hell yeah

Brian AtlasI'ma [ __ ] the [ __ ] out of her well here's the thing right in in years past I would now I'm like stay away from me 10 days isolation

Brian Atlasgoodbye but like you know back in the day if she was sick I was sick whatever

Brian AtlasI feel like people were less uh you know unless aware like people would just hang out with sick people now it's a bit more like oh somebody's sick I don't want to hang out with you you

Brian Atlasknow I think now we're much more aware of like oh that's how what what

Brian Atlaswhat are they saying oh covid was my [ __ ] [ __ ] like Brian made covet just

Brian Atlascome over I invented [ __ ] Cove it wasn't bro I'm just saying whooping cough [ __ ] is I'm just saying it's good um what were what were you talking about

Tiffanysorry I'm making this [ __ ] all about me I'm sorry um it was a funny funny getting to know you kind of thing yeah okay yeah okay but like every time you like

TTS Readeryou slapped away the dick bigger definitely donated 99 this is by far the nicest panel you've had a long time they're all nice no

TTS Readerstress all engaged in the conversation and all interesting and intriguing and I suddenly have an urge to have a watermelon crushed on my skull on your skull

Brian Atlashe wants you to stand above him while he's laying on the ground with the skull within the watermelon what what was that I think of foam oh it was a mic that always on the ground

Brian Atlasno it's okay okay do I just leave it there yeah don't worry don't worry about it it's all good um okay thank you for your uh let's see where it was uh bigger lonely thank you man appreciate it uh I mean we did have

Brian Atlasthe two girls Rage Quit it's more like one girl one rage quit and then the friend tagged along but um that wasn't too bad they just dipped it

Brian Atlaswasn't a big space more space although there are um yeah it was pretty it's been pretty good uh okay so that you had your crying thing that's cool uh

Tiffanyoh you didn't answer like but every single time like you're crying he's like trying to you know well like put it down he didn't tell me every single time that I was crying that he was turned on like

Tiffanyit happened like a handful of times yeah but there were some physical indicators like the Bulge in his pants right that might indicate I mean like you know what I'm crying it's not like I'm looking down at the Bulge of his pants like I'm

Brian Atlaskind of more concerned about the reason why I'm crying right that would be the first place I'd look I'm crying hold on let me assess the situation is there does he have a hard on you know like in the back of my head

TiffanyI'm like I'm I'm bawling my eyes out like are you turned on you know because like now it's not really the time that was that's really selfish of him because

Brian Atlashere you are that's for a reason here you are like in a vulnerable state and you're you're upset about something maybe you need some consoling

Brian Atlasand in the back of your head you're like bro his Python's erect yeah and it just must have really [ __ ] with you because in the back of your head he's like

Bethanyyou're probably thinking he's not in the right state of mind to to really be there for me she said he was bad he was like pretty bad like when you were crying like what do you like like what would he do

Tiffanyyou stand there yeah like you would just say like I'm sorry but like in general he wasn't really like a very emotional person like he was kind of a really good [ __ ] you or like would you just stand

Bethanythere like yes like you would hug me and yeah what what's the reverse of a boner um that's what goes soft um like an inverted penis if a girl's crying I whatever that is I

Lilyget [Music]

Brian Atlasplease don't be insensitive to her situation please don't be incentive not for it I'm not for it someone's going to happen to you someone said it's very rude to her right now I'm kidding okay okay good you brought up the coffee what you got for

Jenny Dealus well it's it's literally my life um as a dating coach talk about every day but I would say as a little final

Jenny Dealnote Vibe I think men and women alike over complicate dating and over consume info about dating and that in order to date you need to go on dates in order to

Jenny Dealget into a relationship you need to carry yourself as if you want to actually commit to someone and I think it's a problem on both ends and also I have a friend who is waiting for me so I

Jenny Dealhave to leave because she has nowhere else to go without me driving her back home

Riley Lewishey girl I'll I'll catch you in and see if we don't wrap within five minutes feel free to excuse yourself but what about you um I guess I just think that women shouldn't they should be able to have an

Riley Lewisoption to have a form of birth control but not oral birth control because it's um like anything that has to do with like hormonal birth control I don't think they should be able to have it because it actually really affects you

Riley Lewisknow their choice in mate um there was a experiment called the sweaty t-shirt study and basically a bunch of men were not allowed to wear a cologne or deodorant they were forced to run on a treadmill for a certain amount

Riley Lewisof time their you know shorts were taken put in bags and there was a control group of women and a woman a group of women that were on birth control and they had to rate the smell of these

Riley Lewist-shirts based off of levels of attractiveness and um basically what they found is that the woman who were in the control group the ones who weren't on birth control they chose men with opposite immune system

Riley Lewisprofiles um which basically gave their children a better chance at you know just being more Adept and having a better immune system and ability to like fight off diseases and stuff like that but the

Riley Lewiswomen who were on birth control it was completely randomized or um it was just the opposite of what would be beneficial for their own immune system profile and you know genetic

Brian AtlasOffspring yeah I mean I definitely heard that apparently women who are on birth control are they find feminine characteristics like more attractive and then whereas if they're not on birth control they're

Brian Atlasmore attracted to like more more masculine traits yeah definitely apparently that's a thing and something I heard related to that is a woman who is on birth control met a guy if they

Brian Atlasget off birth control they can lose attraction for their partner that even happens in marriages yeah if they're on birth control like say you're on birth control or you're dating a guy you get off birth control and then you actually

Lilylike you could lose attraction for the guy that happened to me yeah really I've seen it with friends too what was this it happened to you it happened to me I was what was this I was on birth control for a bit and then I was in a

Lilyrelationship with someone for three and a half years and two years into the relationship I got off of the birth control and that whole year of being off of it I woke up realizing oh my God this

Lilyis not the person I thought I was dating and I wasn't really attracted to him physically at all lost physical attraction was he one of the guys who was smaller

Lilythan you yes okay and just emotional attraction as well I realized he wasn't fulfilling the needs that I needed as a woman because he wasn't being a man

Brian Atlashas anybody else had that experience who hears on birth control I hopped off what is this either you're either on

Bethanybirth control or not well you're taking Plan B's every week what's up no no no um yeah I am I'm just like some days like I'm not the best you know yeah but I also careful boys

Bethanyum but I also do like um pregnancy tests every month you know just to be safe okay all right uh okay what about you anything dating

LilyI guess you want to get off your chest um I guess as a christ-fearing woman it's really hard to find christ-fearing men in this world because everything is so immediate and instant and so it's

Lilyhard to find men and women honestly as friends who have self-control that's it soft okay yes self-discipline okay Chance

Ryan Rhinochance um yeah my final thoughts um I have a bit of a pessimistic view of dating in general like and even you

Ryan Rhinobeing like a match or what like a dating coach like those apps I just saw a video recently those apps aren't meant to even help people get on dates like they're meant to keep you on there because if

Ryan Rhinotwo people meet and have a successful relationship the app loses business so they're incentivized to keep your lonely ass on there swiping for more people and they strategically will put ugly ones in

Jenny Dealthere and then put a cute one in there knowing that oh intermittent reinforcement there you go you I mean you get it you know how the apps work hinges a bit better about it but you need to be very intentional to like actually take advantage of their whole

Ryan Rhinodesign to be deleted thing and I I just think about how yeah back in the olden days like just dating was simpler when your parents met it was simpler there

Ryan Rhinowas no like all the girls here have got gotten a hundred times more like attention than I get and I have millions of followers so it's like how does a

Ryan Rhinonormal guy even compete in this dating Market you can't like if a regular girl is getting 50 to 100 DMS approaches whatever how how do you even stand a

Ryan Rhinochance so I feel really bad for the majority of men who don't have a lot of success in a dating pool and I don't know what the solution is I feel like you just have to level up the best you

Lilycan appearance wise Financial wise everything because the competition is like it's crazy I mean can I yeah comment on that I agree and disagree

Lilybecause none of the messages that I ever receive I ever respond to I would only as a for myself I would only pursue a man who

Lilyis pursuing me in person and making an effort like appearance wise shows me that he has ambition Etc and but there's a lack of that because can we get a posture check from

Lilyyou and just I feel like you're slouching I'm looking out my my thing keeps I'm looking out for you it's all good my booster it keeps slipping okay I don't know what I was saying

Ryan Rhinono I see what you're saying like you specifically won't answer DMS I'm not sure if most girls behave like that I think girls will most girls will answer

Ryan Rhinocertain DMS from certain guys but it's just like how do you compete with I know like y'all are getting blue checks and athletes and like some really top tier

Ryan Rhinoguys how does a regular dude even get close to that like you can't they don't you don't and then and then they end up hey can I pay a two grand to kick me in

Jenny Dealthe nuts like I have seen statistics like I've done thorough just like checks make sure it's from actual studies and then asking men I know asking my like X when we were still together men are not

Jenny Dealhaving sex these days whereas every girl I know if she isn't celibate she has had sex whenever she wants to and it is a serious topic that I considered sending beforehand but then I was like

Ryan Rhinoyeah so you're right so it's it's kind of a weird dire situation send the asteroid yeah yeah it's uh I don't know I don't know what the solution is and we're in this era of like hating on men

Ryan Rhinoand I'm like damn I think men need the most help now more than ever but they also need each other I don't have too much more to go on that

Ryan Rhinobut yeah you there's this gender war going on it's like whoa like but there's so many I mean you hear the stories of kick kick me and spit on me and I'll pay you 100 bucks just to speak to me like

Ryan Rhinohow incredibly sad is that I don't know if y'all could even fathom having to pay someone a hundred dollars just to speak to you and here we are misogynist toxic this and that yeah and like

Ryan Rhinothat's that's why I like to try to I don't know root for guys like nobody's here to help men at all and it's cool to I'm literally helping men well I

Jenny Dealappreciate it I agree and there there's a lot of very nice good guys who just get overwhelmed from what I've observed from the whole alpha male podcast thing like fresh and fit which I never heard

Jenny Dealof until yesterday um and that's why I think it's important for you know panels like this people showing that it's okay to have your view um if you're only getting one match a week that's okay because like I mentioned earlier it just takes one

Ryan Rhinoperson if you want to be in a relationship unless you're into poly and I know you have to go but I did have one question for you sorry to like string this on a little longer Brian um have you ever told your male clients

Jenny Dealto be an [ __ ] to girls I never to be a dick what typically happens though is they are scared of being seen as predatory or

Jenny Dealdouchey so they end up never even asking a girl out so what I have done for most of them actually is say like you don't need to ask her five questions in a row to try to seem like you're

Jenny Dealinterested it's okay to like like she's dating you too so you do need to talk about yourself but I've never attracted yeah I attract very nice clients who feel awkward never tell them to be douchey the most

Jenny DealI've done is say try to be a little bit more cool and maybe don't text her back one minute later at seven A.M yeah I was like don't be desperate but don't be a douche because yeah it

Lilyhappens a lot where women aren't attracted to nice men they would rather be treated like crap to desperate men I would yes yeah

Bethanyum oh yeah um you like you like dicks is that what you said that's what I heard I heard I like dick like no like um kind of like when guys kind of don't give you as much attention

Jenny Dealand like stuff like that it kind of makes me want to like chase them yeah it's about the change yeah but that's like maturity versus immaturity like you probably aren't going to find a husband

Bethanyif you're dating like that but yeah you don't need a husband like if um guys don't do that that's not like a break point for me I'm just saying like if he's simping after you probably won't

Brian Atlastake him seriously no I I would I would for sure I've done that with a lot of guys but um I mean isn't that pretty common like girls like yeah guys who are [ __ ] I think it's kind of I feel like a lot of people do that like it's the chase you know I mean I mean I like

Ryan Rhinowhen my man is like when my man is respectful and not an [ __ ] yeah like I just know growing up I was the I was the nice guy and never got

Ryan Rhinoanything and then even me and my guy friends would be like I said this to this girl and she loved it and I'm like why do they like being mistreated or whatever and I don't want to be like

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