Is Margot Robbie MID?! 2 GIRLS RAGEQUIT! | Dating Talk #85

Date: 2023-07-19

Duration: 5h 34m

Guests

Brian Atlas

TTiffany (DT85)>

BBethany (DT85)>

MMadison (DT94)>

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00TTS Reader(audience)

SPEAKER_01TTS Reader(audience)

SPEAKER_02Riley Lewis(guest)

SPEAKER_03Bethany(guest)

SPEAKER_05Tiffany(guest)

SPEAKER_06Lily(guest)

SPEAKER_08Ryan Rhino(guest)

SPEAKER_09Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_10Madison(guest)

SPEAKER_11Jenny Deal(guest)

SPEAKER_12Eve Marlowe(guest)

SPEAKER_14Adira Lore(guest)

Key Moments

IntroGuest introductions — Adira Lore through Madison in order at the table

“"hi my name is adira lore I am 28 years old I'm from LA and I do porn... hi my name is Eve Marlowe I am 31 years old... I'm Tiffany I'm 24... I'm Bethany I'm 18... I'm Jenny or dating coach deals... I'm Riley Lewis I'm 20... I'm Lily I'm 23 from Nashville... my name is Ryan I am 25... my name is Madison I'm 18"”

QuoteRiley Lewis introduces herself as a "virtual stripper" and explains it means OnlyFans

“"I'm Riley Lewis I'm 20 years old I'm from Hollywood and I am a virtual stripper... um I do only fans"”

RelationshipRiley reveals her one-sided open relationship and boyfriend's sudden wheelchair situation

“"I'm in a fully committed um one-sided open relationship... I'm not allowed to get with other people but um he's allowed to... he's been in a wheelchair because he's like kind of paralyzed right now"”

QuoteAdira rates herself 10/10 and argues everyone should call themselves a 10

“"I'm gonna fucking ride hard for myself and I'm gonna say I'm a 10 out of 10 and I don't care who the fuck has to say anything"”

QuoteLily reveals she slid into recurring Whatever guest Chase's DMs; he did not reply and she deleted the message

“"I did slip into his jams but I don't... I remember opening the DM I don't know... I think I deleted it... I got a little embarrassed"”

QuoteRiley reveals her boyfriend is currently in a wheelchair from acute autoimmune disorder

“"ever since my birthday which was about like a week and a half ago he's been in a wheelchair because he's like kind of paralyzed right now... it happened to him once before like three years ago"”

ControversyAdira Lore and Eve Marlowe ragequit the show mid-episode during self-rating/Belladonna debate

“"okay well that's my ride so" [Eve follows Adira out] ... "sorry guys we had two girls walk off the show"”

QuoteRiley tells story of ex-boyfriend who came out as gay after a skiing head injury; cheated with his male best friend

“"he went on this trip with his friends it was like a boys trip... he falls off the roof and he hits his head and I swear to you that that was when he turned gay... at some point in our relationship he cheated on me with a guy... it was his best friend"”

Key MomentJenny "Deal" demonstrates live Hinge coaching — role-plays messaging strategy with Brian

“"I just saw this coffee shop open up have you ever been it's called La La Land... are you free this weekend... I'm free on Sunday... all right that's perfect you want to meet at that coffee shop at three"”

ControversyMadison describes her reaction to catching a partner cheating — would grab the other woman by the hair

“"I would probably grab her hair pull that shit out drag her out of the apartment and then scream at him and then dip"”

QuoteTiffany reveals ex had a foot/shoe fetish and paid her $300/week to send heel-walking videos

“"it was a long distance relationship after I left Virginia so I would send him videos of me walking in heels and he would pay me for that... he would pay me like 300 a week"”

QuoteBrian plays Riley's TikToks showing near-identical content to his own — exposes plagiarism on air

“"would you be okay with your long-term monogamous partner going to a bar club party... [plays Brian's version] ...that sounds really familiar"”

QuoteRiley reveals her breast implants cost $15,000, paid by her parents

“"they weren't as bad as I thought they'd be actually... my parents actually paid for it... yeah 15 [thousand]"”

TopicBrian proposes "Thursdays with Riley" show as Riley's penance for plagiarizing his content

“"you are gonna host the Thursday show... every single week it's gonna be a dating talk but you're gonna host it... it will be called Thursdays with Riley"”

Topics Discussed

Introductions & Show Announcements

Brian introduces show; co-host Kiki mentioned as shy. Guests introduce in order: Adira Lore (28, LA, adult performer), Eve Marlowe (31, Las Vegas, matchmaker), Tiffany (24, LA, content creator/OnlyFans), Bethany (18, OC, model), Jenny "Deal" (22, Boston, dating coach), Riley Lewis (20, Hollywood, virtual stripper/OnlyFans), Lily (23, Nashville, lifestyle coach), Ryan "Rhino" (25, YouTuber), Madison (18, San Diego, student/bar host/co-host).

Relationship Status Round

Adira: newly in a relationship (ready to settle down), prior toxic relationships. Eve: recently single, out of 3-month relationship, single 5 years prior (married age 17-20). Tiffany: pretty single (~5 months since 3-year relationship). Bethany: single ~4 months, longest relationship 1 year. Jenny: single 1-2 months, happily dating around, texting Swiss musician "Lucas." Riley: one-sided open relationship (her boyfriend can see others, she cannot). Lily: single. Ryan: single. Madison: in relationship with Frankie.

Riley's Boyfriend in a Wheelchair / Open Relationship

Riley reveals her boyfriend (content creator) suddenly developed an autoimmune disorder a week and a half prior and is now in a wheelchair — second occurrence (first ~3 years prior, also resolved). She describes their one-sided open relationship established from the beginning of dating. Boyfriend flew her and another influencer to an island on their second date. Brian asks about intimacy logistics given the wheelchair situation.

Margot Robbie Mid Debate

Brian presents viral claim that Margot Robbie is "mid." Panel and chat debate whether she is overrated. Adira argues ratings are meaningless; Eve notes celebrities are compared against other celebrities not everyday people. Discussion of double standard: calling a female celebrity mid causes outrage; calling a male celebrity mid (Ryan Gosling, Timothy Chalamet, Beyonce, Michael B Jordan) gets no reaction. Ryan Rhino says female attractiveness standards are artificially inflated by makeup/surgery/professional photography.

Self-Rating Round

Brian asks all guests to rate their appearance on a scale of 1-10. Adira: 10 (argues everyone should say 10, makeup makes her look worse). Eve: 9. Bethany: ~7-7.5 (depends on makeup). Jenny "Deal": 5 in California, 7-8 in Boston depending on hair. Riley: 7-8 (upgraded herself after breast augmentation 2 months prior). Lily: 8-9. Ryan "Rhino": 6.8. Madison: 6.5 without makeup, 8 with full makeup. Brian: 6 without makeup, 7 with. Adira escalates into philosophical argument against the concept of self-rating, becoming increasingly agitated.

Two Guests Ragequit

Adira Lore and Eve Marlowe leave the show mid-episode (~1:16 mark) during the Belladonna/self-rating debate. Adira becomes upset when the conversation turns to Belladonna (famous porn star); she takes it as an affront. Eve says "that's my ride so" and follows. Brian and remaining guests react: the walkout was over a mild conversation, blue-haired girl (Eve) had originally reached out to request to be on the show. Show continues with 7 remaining panelists; seating arrangement is adjusted.

Ex Turned Gay / Toxic Relationship Stories

Riley tells story of her 3-year ex-boyfriend (ages 16-19) who cheated on her with his male best friend ~6 months before their breakup. Riley's theory: he fell off a roof on a ski trip and hit his head, which she believes caused the change. Signs she missed: wanted her to wear a short brown wig in bed, low sex drive in final months, spent more time with his best friend. Brian discusses phenomenon of women being attracted to dangerous/incarcerated men. Bethany tells story of fight with best friend who cheated with her ex.

Dating App Coaching / Hinge Role Play

Jenny "Deal" demonstrates her Hinge coaching methodology. Tips: X out standouts tab for more profile visibility, write specific prompts, send messages worth responding to (not "hey"). Brian and Jenny role-play a Hinge messaging scenario (Brian as girl, Jenny as guy). Discussion of getting a date quickly vs extended digital pen-pal stage. Tiffany plays gamer girl character. Role play proceeds through first message to date confirmation. Panel debates how many texts are needed before asking for a date.

Cheating Response / Would You Fight?

Brian poses scenario: you come home to find your partner cheating mid-act. Panel responses: Madison would grab the other woman by the hair and drag her out. Riley would leave in silence and block. Bethany would go "ape shit" and attack both. Tiffany would cause a scene then leave. Jenny would pack and leave silently. Lily would walk out without violence. Ryan would walk out smoothly. Discussion of whether the severity changes if the third party is a close friend (unanimous: yes, double betrayal). Brian argues rational response is to leave the partner, not fight the stranger.

Dating Dynamics: Who Initiates / Men vs Women

Brian asks what percentage of first dates are initiated by men — consensus ~99%. Discussion of whether men and women have equal dating options; classic adage "women sleep with who they want, men sleep with who they can." Madison challenges Brian's use of the saying. Discussion of boss-babe success as attractive to men (Ryan argues men do not care about a woman's income). Riley argues biggest predictor of divorce is woman earning more than man. Jenny discusses how men's attraction patterns relate to their mother figures.

Sugar Daddies / Financial Simping

Tiffany reveals she had a long-distance ex who had a shoe fetish and paid her $300/week to send videos of herself walking in heels; $1,000 at a time occasionally. Riley has online sugar daddies via OnlyFans only (no in-person meetups). Lily receives $100/week from a man just to text him (non-sexual). Madison paid $500 for a gift to a guy she was seeing for 3 months who was also seeing other women. Bethany had informal sugar daddy arrangements met at clubs (received ~$2,400 cash + ~$5,000 total from one man including a Vegas trip and beach house weekend). Discussion of AI girlfriends and pay pigs.

Nice Guys vs. Toxic Behavior / Attraction Patterns

Discussion of whether women are attracted to bad behavior or confident behavior. Brandon's saying: "if you treat her like dirt she'll stick to you like mud." Ryan describes his own trajectory from nice guy to less attentive and how his dating results improved. Jenny argues it is about selecting for the right type of woman. Madison observes younger women often prefer a bit of edginess while mature women prefer stability. Brian discusses women who write letters to incarcerated men; evolutionary attraction to men capable of violence as protection signal. Discussion of makeup-sex after arguments.

Riley Plagiarism Gag / "Thursdays with Riley"

Brian plays several TikTok clips of Riley Lewis using near-identical language to Brian's own YouTube/podcast content — same "would you be okay with your monogamous partner being pursued at a bar" premise, same "everything around you was built by men" argument, same "big dick energy" gender double standard bit. Riley admits to "plagiarizing" Brian's content, claims she started TikTok recently and didn't realize it was frowned upon. Brian proposes "Thursdays with Riley" — a weekly dating talk show hosted by Riley from the Whatever studio, with Brian as background presence.

Transcript

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Lilyfix it so hold tight guys really quick um Madison take it away that's always happens yeah Madison take it back to um that question about

Lilyum the 10 disabilities not the 10 things but how many of you would go for a guy in a wheelchair no no none of y'all

Lilyum I think it depends it depends if I go to the guy first and he were to be in a room yeah I'd be completely fine with that but I don't know I honestly I think it just depends because like if

Lilyif I like you for who you are and like the soul that you have inside of you then it doesn't really matter I also forgot who said that it'd probably be harder for men to um get women

Lilywait someone said it'd be harder for a woman or it'd be easier for easier for men I forgot who it was so I said yeah yes it was rightly oh I just want to know like why you think it would be easier for men again yeah well I guess

Riley Lewisjust because I feel like women like are nurturers and like you know they tend to like oh right talking to the mic thank you they tend to be nurturers they tend to

Riley Lewisyou know take care of the house like house makers stuff like that so I don't know at the end of the day like I feel like it's in our nature to kind of take care of people and I don't know for that reason I think that maybe men would have

Lilyan easier time yeah yeah I agree with that the fact that like women are caretakers but say in that situation I also feel like some women would opt out of that because it's like you kind of

Bethanyhave to give up all your time just to take care of this guy yeah also like Rhino was saying like I feel like a Girl Wants like like a big masculine man to like be able to take care of them you

Lilyknow like for me at least I I wouldn't really want to have to take care of them you know yeah like you're gonna have to dedicate so much time and energy just to care for your significant other which is completely fine like you should if

Lilyyou're like if you're really in love with them yeah I just think a lot of women would phrase because of like the protect yeah I would definitely want to jump on it and be

Lilylike definitely he's in a wheelchair let me have him no I would have to probably is it still lagging everyone I don't know okay yeah I don't think I think you're Captain because I don't think you

Ryan Rhinowould even give a guy the chance to get to know him if he was in a wheelchair really right off the bat I wouldn't I don't think I would either like like it sounds nice to say like no I care about someone's heart whatever but like I care

Lilyabout girls personality of course but if you literally don't look good it's like it's like the first thing that you see in someone say you're like walking on the street you look for attractiveness

Eve Marlowethat way he doesn't cheat on me yeah

Bethanybelow mid is where I am negative there's just I feel like there's way too many cons to have to be like dating someone in a wheelchair yeah right yeah so

Ryan Rhinothere's so many yeah in a wheelchair yeah but I had another thing I wanted to bring back I thought we were done with the Margot Robbie but I thought about something is there a male popular

Ryan Rhinoattractive male celebrity that y'all think is over hyped Ryan Gosling um like everyone thinks he's Ryan Reynolds but you don't think he's having that too

LilyEnvironmental yes not even the young Leo I don't even think he's that cute Timothy chalamet I don't think he's actually he's like he's

Ryan Rhinopretty I was gonna make the point of like it's pretty in this in 2023 like critiquing a woman and just saying she's mad even if she's beautiful

Ryan Rhinowhatever it's like front stage news headlines everywhere but like if you say an attractive man is mid no one cares yeah it's just like yeah I agree yeah I don't like Timothy Charlemagne either

Ryan Rhinobut if you dare to critique Margot Robbie then then how how could you even speak on her name but if I say Michael B Jordan ain't all that it's like yeah

Eve Marlowewhatever who cares important like in the female role like you know more women get plastic surgery more women wear makeup especially women do beauty products get facials and Men

Eve Marlowebecause they don't care if you call them mid they're like well yeah I just woke up like this so it's like not even an insult but if you call us mid we're like we spent a hundred dollars on this facial cream for nothing yeah and get

Lilysad you know yeah what about you are they are there any like um high value or not high value just like high class women like celebrities that

Ryan Rhinoyou think are a little overrated oh man if I say mine I'm gonna get attacked I gotta know I'm ready let me let me think of a good one now because I there's a lot of beautiful

Ryan Rhinowomen yeah uh uh let's say Beyonce I agree I personally you know strong voice but personally I think there's

Lilygirl again how crazy I take I think there's probably girls that what's colleges UCSB or something yeah but I will say I just think it's harder

Lilyor for celebrities because they get compared to kind of like their status as a celebrity so it's easier to judge them you know they're they're saying Margot Robbie's mid but they're comparing her

Eve Marloweto other people like on the same level as her like they're not definitely not comparing her to the people at the grocery store like right now or then she would be like a ton you know they're definitely comparing her to other

Adira Lorecelebrities which yeah would be a harder Bill to fit and other celebrities are constantly always in professionally done makeup yeah photoshopped absolutely their images are changed is it okay

Lilyplastic surgery like people think Beyonce is like a [ __ ] 10 out of 10 but it's because she like also does music she's a celebrity she's famous she's rich like all this stuff so I think it's harder for her she can afford

Lilyevery Beauty yeah surgery anything yeah exactly I heard is it good now Ryan oh major

Lilythey're saying we're all too old for Leonardo DiCaprio we are not I'm not even too old for him what's his girl hold it how 25 when the prefrontal cortex develops

Eve Marlowe25. well he doesn't date above that so the people you know how many months does she have left have we talked to her birthday is that like a has done studies

Jenny Dealthen it shows the age of his girlfriends and then it goes up for a few years and then she turns 25 goes back down to another 19 year old

Tiffanysix more years would you guys date Leonardo DiCaprio no yeah yeah I would no why just like

Lilyyou know like always have been like fart jokes oh you always thought he was attractive were you here for when we were like oh Leonardo DiCaprio's not that attractive

Unknownoh no are we in the bathroom oh okay oh see yeah I was gonna maybe the Titanic and yeah

LilyLeo is gone yeah if he's still loves hanging fruit that's all Leo's gone we let it come in Dua Lipa I think she's

Eve Marloweamazing I think she looks gorgeous I love Dua LIPA she's very gorgeous damn that looks like we're fixed we're back I

Eve Marlowethought it was a shut up time shut up

Lilywhenever that like GTS trigger like chime comes in we ask everyone to just like be a little quiet so it can like read out loud because it's hard to like listen to it when people are talking at the same time so

Lilydid you see that um thing about Tom Holland though how he's kind of like taking a year break from acting no he was getting his cheeks clap right I was like

Lilyno he's not gay but he uh he acted in like in this uh was it a movie it was like a movie where he was psychological and he's getting like hate and stuff

Tiffanyyeah he's getting his feet flat back no I could not open Twitter he's just like no Cheeks getting clapped oh I didn't even see it do we have like a sexy was it a big black man that was doing it too I I didn't get a good look at this point

Lilyright I mean like but yeah he's taking like a year break from acting because he's getting so much [ __ ] oh that's sad yeah it is kind of sad yeah that's fair sad

Lilydamn it's just acting you know yeah it is just acting but you know how the media is like they're gonna judge you for every single thing you do and especially if it's something like that

Riley Lewisunfortunately that's why you just don't look you just close your eyes I feel like you just have to like expect stuff like that when you're in that industry yeah you know which is sad but I feel like you do just

Lilyhave to expect it at the end of the day yeah and you also have to just like think before you do things sometimes like I don't know I don't want to judge him because he's a great actor but I wouldn't take a role that it was like Hey and you're going to be getting raw dog

Ryan Rhino[ __ ] for it yeah that's what I was gonna say like he you need you could he needed to like yeah he should have saw that coming yeah you should know that hey if I'm gonna do a scene where I'm up against the wall you know I'm gonna get

Eve Marlowehate for it yeah I mean but I think it's Brave of him

TTS ReaderI will rain down an ungodly [ __ ] Firestorm upon you you're gonna have to call the [ __ ] United Nations and get a [ __ ] binding resolution to keep up

TTS Readerfrom [ __ ] destroying you I am talking scorched Earth [ __ ] I will Master you that's that's from a movie uh Thank You Les Grossman for the very

Brian Atlasgenerous uh TTS uh one in the chat guys if it's okay uh it I think we have it figured out very sorry about that guys uh you know we're doing it live so you know you're relying on the internet

Brian Atlassometimes the internet's shitty I think that's our first time we've ever had that issue um did I say one in the chat if everything's okay yeah okay yeah and it was also delayed too that was one of our concerns that it

Brian Atlaseven though we got it fixed now there's like a 20 second delay on the stream but anyways we've got that figured out so okay we were talking about the 10 the 10 thing yes okay let's come

Brian Atlasback to that um so I think my question was before the should the [ __ ] hit the fan uh should everybody be a 10. um into the mic please

Adira Loreum I personally think that everyone should have the confidence in themselves as a 10 yes because if we were confident in our own image we would have more brain room to

Adira Lorefocus on other things like developing skills developing Hobbies maybe finding a healthy relationship you know having a healthier mental state of life so I

Adira Lorethink focusing on your rating and judging yourself on that is irrelevant and yeah you should be a 10 you should just be confident in yourself sure okay so there's a couple things there you

Adira Lorethink that we should be less preoccupied with our physical appearance yeah I yeah so okay why not give yourself a 10. like what what Justice does it do to

Adira Lorerate yourself as a two to live your life being like I'm an ugly too no one likes me what what good does that bring to yourself well I mean if if it happens to be the case that for example let's say

Brian Atlasyou actually are too or this hypothetical person is a two uh and you have a accurate self-assessment of your own physical attractiveness and you own it

Brian Atlascouldn't you argue that it's actually more confident to be like yeah I'm a seven that's that's how I am versus like actually being like let's say you're five let's say you're totally average you're not particularly

Adira Loreremarkable in any regard and you think you're a 10. um don't you think be more confident to just be like yeah I'm a five no I think it's the most confident to show that you

Adira Lorethink you're the best you are and I've met many people that buy beauty standards if we're using like Marco Robbie's standards are ones or even less

Adira Lorebut just their confidence and their personality made me think that they were [ __ ] the hottest guy I've ever met so I think if you have the confidence in yourself that you are a 10 that you will

Adira Loreattract people to your confidence and if you sit there self-assessing being like Oh I'm a seven I'm a six no I think that's just a waste of your time and bringing yourself down and stopping you

Riley Lewisfrom succeeding and getting further you know well is this Scale based off of like solely attractiveness or is it also like about physical what's inside just physical it's like just looks because like if it's physical then like I think

Riley Lewisthat the point that you're saying is like kind of false just because like confidence comes from within it has nothing to do with your appearance well that's what I'm saying and if you

Adira Lorebelieve within you are a 10 than confident shines and I mean like confidence confidence is shown in appearance you what every one of you could look the

Adira Loresame way and if you're walking insecure you're gonna look uglier if you are walking loud and proud you're gonna look like a [ __ ] Superstar guaranteed fact like I don't think that everyone that

Lilylike rates himself let's say a five though is insecure like yeah what did I rate my I rated myself an A but I confidently rated myself in it I think like on the other side of what you're saying like I completely get what you're

Lilysaying but on the other side of it's like I'm confident that I'm an eight but like I also know that I can improve on like some things here and there which is why I'm not like a confident what was the what standards though like what standards do you want to improve on

Eve Marlowebecause like you look like a ton to me I think you're beautiful thank you like what standards are you putting yourself to is it like westernized Beauty like what where are your where do you think

Lilyyour flaws are that you're giving yourself a golden ratio like the the staple I'm like who maybe actually is and that's my point is like you're over here being like I could be better but if

Adira Loreyou just thought you were the best you wouldn't even worry about that you could be worrying about how you could be better in your other life set skills not just your beauty you know like it's just you shouldn't you are a tat thank you

Adira Lorelike you really are like there's nothing you can improve about yourself except for your confidence like everyone has like a little bit of insecurities you know but oh I do too but I'm still gonna stand here and like fight for myself you

Bethanyknow and be like I'm a 10 out of 10 because that's what I believe everyone should do also I feel like there's like an off you can obviously tell if there's like an unattractive person and an attractive

Bethanyperson and I think everyone should definitely be confident but if you're telling that like unattractive person that they're a 10 like like you're like so bad like and they're walking around thinking that then like I feel like they

Bethanycould like people could like totally like take it they can just film and like overly conscious yeah and they could learn some like they get humbled and like you know that's a that's a good point it was

Ryan Rhinomaking me think of this quote it's like you can ignore reality but you can't ignore the consequences that come with ignoring reality so if let's say a girl

Ryan Rhinonext to me she's I don't know truthfully isn't very attractive but everyone tells her yep girl you're a 10 out of 10 don't ever settle for anything less whatever

Ryan Rhinoshe she might start going after certain guys whatever who aren't within her League or her whatever and she's going to constantly get heartbroken why is this guy doesn't want to talk to me why does this guy keep cheating on me why is this guy keep doing this and same with

Ryan Rhinoguys if it's like if I'm a guy and I think that I'm the second coming of Jesus Christ and every girl I deserve a supermodel I deserve it a list whatever and I keep going after supermodels and

Ryan Rhinokeep going after girls that aren't in my playing realm I'm gonna constantly get heartbroken I'm doing myself a disservice because I'm not actually playing with the my roles because you

Ryan Rhinocan be confident and be an average looking person that's what I think like I'm I'm not a 10 at all but I'm pretty confident with myself and that doesn't mean that it's a bad thing

Ryan Rhinoso I I think that by telling someone something that's not accurate you're doing them more of a disservice like you're you're putting a Band-Aid on like their feelings for the moment and be like yeah if you're 10 everyone's

Adira Loreeverything's all good but then and when they go out in the world they're not going to get treated like a 10 necessarily like you see what I'm saying I disagree because you're also like saying that as if everyone with the

Adira Loreconfidence has expectations that they deserve something and I mean I even Belladonna used to be married to one of my good friends who by Society standards

Adira Lorewould probably think is that guy who is Belladonna Belladonna was one of the most famous porn stars in the world um she's probably more famous than you no offense but and she's like yeah

Adira Loredefinitely for sure like she she out her Google search I'm just saying she's way more she's really famous and his confidence and she she is I mean can you

Bethanyanswer that for us yeah Ryan do you know the answer to that is she famous

Adira Loreno honestly I don't I don't watch porn I don't watch like I don't care but

Adira Lorewhat I kind of want to just want to just um seriously yeah because we're just uh you're that triggered over this conversation it's a

Adira Lorebecause we're talking about because I don't know who Belladonna is no it's not that it's um everything it's just because we're talking about rating talk

Eve Marloweabout people's attractiveness okay well that's my ride so oh wow no no no self Castle no if you need a

Jenny Dealride back I don't mind driving you too I'm going back to LA too we're all gonna just drive together um hang tight guys

BethanyI'm gonna tell a joke I can do like a little sound effects

Ryan Rhinoum yeah I do have space there is gonna happen I do have space for one more oh she said what happened she said

Lilypersonally personally for like the whole like we didn't even get started I don't think it's that deep it's just like no yes remember when we were in like middle school and be like right right let's

Lilyrate each other you know like we didn't think it was that deep until now

Tiffanyappreciate you I think it's not fair to say everyone is a 10 out of ten yeah I don't yeah but like when I rate people I also rate people when it comes to their personality too no actually because you

Tiffanycan be like you could actually physically be a 10 out of ten but then if your person yeah I will not want to sleep with you or did you even get started that was like a pretty tame

TTS Readerconversation like she would not have liked what I was about to say absolutely hold on hold on those looks even matter for a guy if

TTS Readerhe's successful confident smart dude on the panel would you date a ugly chick for any reason I don't think looks matters

Brian Atlasshould I like move the chair too shares there and then we'll get rid of some of the chairs guys give us a sec we two girls just walked off the show it

TTS Readerwas like the most tame conversation ever I have seen way worse yeah

TTS Readerone sec one second not realizing that by the token the more she talks and the lower she goes I had her at a one earlier seriously you are the definition

TTS Readerof just be quiet and PP will find you more attractive

Brian Atlasyeah we'll do three okay three yeah sorry sorry guys we had two girls walk off the show we're just gonna readjust the seating arrangements here um

Brian Atlaswe have you kind of get in the diagram the corner a little bit if you can straddle the leg Okay Madison scoots over a little bit yeah and then let me just look here

Brian Atlasum are you able to scoot just keep scooting little oinks were make fun yeah

Ryan Rhinono but like it's just cranking and she was I don't know how old she was exactly what'd she say 30. um she's like 30. she said

Brian Atlasthis one yeah yeah there's two extra mics

Brian Atlasthank you guys sorry guys getting a little re reset here with uh everything why were we Whispering we were Whispering because she was still here at least there's no more

Lilyyeah okay that was uh at least we don't go hold on guys I'm I'm taking them out of the description here

Brian Atlaslike even if you disagree with someone it's all good like I know yeah that's a weak Constitution she was talking about being confident I mean she crumbled real quick

Bethanygo ahead and say it just she said she said she was like gonna tear you up she's like so I can't ready to like voice my opinion oh she did downstairs she's like I just can't she's like they're like excited like talking like

Lilyvoice their opinion and like defend themselves and then they just dipped I interesting well when I got here she said that she'd never even like really heard of the podcast well so that they they came together there's the blue hair

Madisongirl who reached out to us yeah I like Jared too yeah she was cool I didn't mind them they would show yeah they were they were nice like I don't

Jenny Dealknow what happened yeah but it was like not really worth her evening which to be fair if she doesn't want to talk about like raiding people it's probably not

Brian Atlasthe show to be honest or just like sit back yeah I mean they record uh the so the blue hair girl um like requested to they were friends whatever they requested to be on the show

Brian Atlasum so yeah kind of weird like kind of weird but that's quick okay out of the description okay ah that's why don't come on The Dating cop podcast if you don't want to talk

Brian Atlasabout things that are about about dating yeah like yeah it's like you start dating you immediately start rating the person that you're sitting across from I mean like whether you want to admit it or not like we all make sort of value

Brian Atlascalls and judgments about people who were potentially gonna date whether that comes down to their physical appearance whether that comes down to their personality like and we can all agree like some people are more attractive

Brian Atlasyeah than others you know so like you might not it might feel like uh kind of shitty too put like a number to it but like you know someone this person's more attractive than this person this

Brian Atlasperson's more attractive than this person this person's more attractive than this person you're not you might not be putting a number to it but you are like you are ranking people to some degree I'm sure we can all agree here we've seen a person that's more

Brian Atlasattractive than another person and we kind of so anyways um have you had people walk out like that before

Brian Atlasum yes I think we've not yeah I don't think we've had anyone fold off of like a fairly milk toast

Brian Atlasconversation about like talking about which one can I say her name sure Bernadine I feel like that was a bit different though because there's a little like

LilyTiff you know there's like a little thing but not really it was pretty or you just gave her nasty or no she gave you a nasty look and then she got I don't know if that's comparable like

Brian Atlasthis I thought it was kind of pointless whatever anyways let's move on let's move on okay so uh okay that's it's too bad but

Lilyum okay so let me see here I was gonna was I gonna send you something oh well yeah

Riley Lewisyeah she was like and she kind of put in like a little dig like oh well Belladonna and she's probably like he's probably more has anybody at this table even I'm like

Riley Lewisan iPhone wait sorry what was that I was saying like has anybody at the table even heard of her like let's be real like I have not personally I don't know oh she's a

Brian Atlaswhat is it the porn porn star oh she's a porn star oh I don't like make it a habit of like comparing my popularity with other you should like

Brian AtlasI don't know I was like wait what did you say she was like uh well something about we were talking about the 10 thing and she was like well Belladonna who who's probably more popular than you I

Brian Atlaswas like right I was like I don't really care but like I'm just curious let's look at Google Trends and then I think that got hurt then she started getting all I whatever yeah

Riley Lewishow like we shouldn't compare people and all that right she just goes wow good point she was literally just talking about like

Brian Atlasit's crazy ah okay good times well now we have a more cozy yeah

Brian Atlasit works out so okay um let me just check here I'm wondering if we ah no this someone said they Google searched her and there's no results

Brian Atlashere let me I'm just here I think it's Bella Dawn I don't know who's Belladonna we have no idea that's the porn star though oh she's a person there's a flower no one knows

Bethanythere's a singer dude what if she's just not real

Brian Atlasum unrelated to what just happened apparently Ariana Grande is getting divorced or divorcing her husband I hate to say

Lilythis who is she married yeah a real estate agent like New York he's like not like a celebrity or anything she like she just knew him through like I think he was her what it was it real

Jenny Dealestate agent he would he's a like very high level real estate agent in New York and when they got married I'm pretty sure she said stuff about how it's nice to finally date someone not famous damn so this is what her third field or

Jenny Dealsecond field marriage no no it was an engagement

Lilywait she's gonna write another song about this one probably the rumor we're gonna get a banger album oh yeah she's been getting all this like controversy just thrown at her because

Lilyof like about her life yeah really how she like got skinnier or something I have I feel like Ariana Grande never seen her I feel like I've never yeah she's always been Tiny But like she did get a lot of I will say if you do look

Lilyat her now she's much she looks very yeah she really is like I don't know how concerning Tyler than what she was that's so sad yeah I don't really keep up with her so I don't know what she looks like right now she's darker now there's a meme I was like she used to

Tiffanylook like The Little Mermaid now she looks like The Little Mermaid because the new one's black and has red hair and I saw her I saw people accusing her of like purposely being lighter so like is

Brian Atlasshe darker now I mean she is a little bit but I don't even Ariana Grande she's doing our thing yo Nick apparently the [ __ ] chick

Brian Atlaswith blue hair left her Char or her phone in the [ __ ] Studio can you she says she left it on the charger can you check can we like can we come get it can we

Brian Atlasthrow it off the balcony no no no no um let's get a tour um I'll know don't forget to bring the

Madisonkeys Nick yeah oh my God bro um and stuff yeah Nick if you could just run it down really quick

Brian AtlasI'm telling her to go to the blue door if it's not Nick if she's not there just just [ __ ] leave it on the side like we don't have time for her to uh yeah

Brian Atlasum Okay so sorry guys a little distracted there uh princess I think we might have Michael Knowles back on here

Brian Atlasum in a sec okay so I have some pre-show notes that some of you provided so maybe we can touch on some of those topics so let me just pull up here we have

Brian Atlasactually before we do that so who here has like seen the podcast before ish uh is there anything anyone disagrees with that I've said that you want to argue

Brian Atlaswith me about oh [ __ ] I haven't seen enough okay all right if you want to give hot takes right now any hot takes anybody disagrees with I'm I'm ready to debate

Lilygoing once [Music] no you can disagree Madison well I don't really have any disagreements you disagree with something that's like some

Lilyof like the stats that you give like don't really I feel like the stats that you give for a few of your arguments you always say like um sorry I'm like [ __ ] on you oh I get fired be careful you're on the payroll yeah you're gonna get fired but

Brian Atlasuh we were talking about like men and women something and you always say the saying but like men [ __ ] who they can woman or [ __ ] who they want right men sleep with men sleep with no it goes

Lilywomen sleep with who they want men sleep with who they can yeah but and yeah like I agree with that

Lilythat's girls to one men he'll sleep with a hundred if you give a hundred men to one girl she'll sleep with like one or two of them come on let me do the math yeah what I'm saying

Brian AtlasI'm saying you're saying okay your point was that women are more promiscuous I agree with that well no okay so the saying women sleep with who they want

Brian Atlasmen sleep with who they can isn't necessarily it doesn't have to do with promiscuity but you use it it has to do with like options and selectivity

Lilyyeah but in that scenario you used it to kind of back up your argument but the math I was saying was like you give a hundred women to one man he will

TTS Readersleep with all of them because men [ __ ] who they can right donated 101 number one hey Chance the

TTS ReaderRapper from wish what is that logo on ucap number two all hail Madison Wilhelm never take that hat off number three

Ryan RhinoBrian is still a bum and always will be forever uh thank you man hey what is the logo on your cat it's the Washington Nationals logo it's a

Ryan Rhinobaseball team in DC do you rap but at all freestyle incredible Segway right there

Ryan Rhinoit's good I don't be doing the freestyle off the Dome oh okay on the thing hold on should I pull up an instrumental for you you don't be doing the free stuff

Brian Atlasum and then what was the other thing what else did he say he said number two all hail Madison Wilhelm never take off the helmet number three Brian is still a bumming okay cool yeah thank you man appreciate it thank you for the kind

Lilywords um wait okay so what what is the so I was saying you always say that saying men [ __ ] who they can woman [ __ ] who they want correct I usually say sleep with okay it's like okay but it's

Lilylike the same thing you know what I mean but if you give a hundred women to one man he will sleep with all of them because men sleep with who they can right

Lilyokay what's the second part of this if you give a hundred men to one woman she will only sleep with one or two of them because women I'm not really does anything yeah

LilyI think she's saying what his statistics she doesn't even understand you well I'm just a little I think so literally the child understands me I have a point

Lilyso then would that make a man more valuable if he can sleep with oh I wasn't I wasn't trying to talk about value I was just saying like the saying

Lilythat you always say kind of refutes your argument because you try to say that I think it kind of means that aren't more promiscuous women have basically

Brian Atlasthey're they're it's up to them well okay this the statement the statement women sleep with who they want men sleep with who they can I usually don't tie that into my arguments about promiscuity

Brian Atlaswhat did you tie it in I usually I usually tie that into like conversations about the ways in which uh women have an easier Time dating or getting laid

Brian Atlasokay so like if I'm debating a girl and she's like well I think it's really easy for men to get laid and like men can get laid just as easily as women like that is one of the arguments I might bring up I think it was just like a thought I had last time because the last time you

Brian Atlasbrought that up we were talking about promiscuity and then you brought that up that was just like something that came into my head I think I brought that up in the context of we were talking about is it easier for for women to date than these than

Lilyfor excuse me is it easier for women to date than it is for men today we might have been not talking about the same thing anybody else

Brian Atlasanybody going once going twice okay let me do the soup chat yo Sask finest thing for the Canadian 50. merci beaucoup how are you a dating coach when you're like in 70

Brian Atlassituationships Lucas run you have you have 70 situation chips um you must have missed the beginning uh Nick uh in the in the sources I click the eyeball for stream yard

Brian Atlasshould all know how long it's been off I don't [ __ ] sorry guys um yeah this is the one um so you're like in 70 situationships honestly I I almost wish because they can be fun but

Jenny Dealat the beginning I said I'm talking to like one person and go on dates with a few but but to entertain our lovely commenter it's kind of like saying how are you a chef when you cook every day like how

Jenny Dealcan I coach people on dating not relationships I'm not a relationship coach I help my mostly male clientele get more dates whether they want casual dates or more

Lilyserious dates and how could I do that if I don't know how to myself okay do a lot of the men that you give advice to like do you see it becoming

Jenny Dealsuccessful for them oh yeah no one of them he just started seeing a girl a couple weeks ago like very sweetheart Vibes like going on a date holding off on sleeping together and she

Jenny Dealasked him yesterday if she could plan something for his birthday and they're going shopping for her parents soon like super sweet um most of the men I work with are like mid to late 20s like they've been

Jenny Dealfocusing on their careers for a while and just like realize they want to maybe start dating and don't know how especially with dating apps these days it feels awkward to send messages but I'm good at that hence why I have not

Lilyquite 70 situationships what kind of like advice would you give them though just like an example of like one situation that you've had to deal with um the typical situation is men

Jenny Dealstruggling to get likes or get responses with their matches and I always say to just not expect that many likes because men will sleep with who they can woman

Jenny Dealwho they want so it is do you kind of like it's unrealistic for a man to expect a lot of likes so I do expectation management but to match with the likes that they send if you have a

Jenny Dealmore charismatic profile good photos not like the Margot Robbie selfie but one where you look good um have character in your prompts so

TTS Readerinstead of saying oh I like music say I rap hold on to donated 99 I have a theory on why that lady left maybe she was Belladonna at one point

TTS Readerand was triggered because you didn't know who she was funny

Brian Atlasthat could be a that's a compelling Theory um good to see you back in the chat Bender um it's so funny yeah I don't know um

Jenny Dealman she uh Rage Quit and uh too bad too bad question yeah um because I haven't really seen the

Brian Atlasshow what does 304 mean yeah uh that's an area code okay it's like an area code yeah definitely area code related I think it means ho

Lilyif you flip it it's like the four upside down is an H the O's anyone do that I need to show the

Brian Atlasfunction of it you know yeah okay so uh I have some notes here that you guys provided before the show so uh let's just go through it kind of related starting with you how do you pronounce

Jenny Dealyour name by the way is it DL how do you deal it's my last name deal is your last name what's your first Jenny Jenny no okay it's with the G for Genevieve oh

Brian AtlasGenevieve yeah if you want to call me by my full name can I call you genevere it's your show okay yeah I'm actually gonna have you legally change your name after the show the Jennifer no I don't want to sign more papers it's

Brian Atlascomplicated um so you're the hinge Queen I think that's my bio that's what you do it's my specialty okay so you offer do you your clients is it mostly men or you got women too

Jenny Dealum the majority of my following is men and I've noticed men are more likely to spend money on help okay like three-fourths men they're more

Jenny Deallikely to have the money in this society and more likely to need the help more likely to want it bad enough to invest in it and I think they just like the way I

Jenny Dealtalk about dating compared to some other male dating coaches okay so like what's your top three tips oh my gosh okay so one that will immediately get results like random people from my high school who find me

Jenny Dealthey're like wait this worked is X out your standouts for like a day or two to get more attractive profiles so a lot of people complain about just not liking anyone that they match with just go to the standouts tab which is the like most

Jenny Dealattractive profiles and just X all of them out like reject them um that's the quickest one the other one which I view as doing it for the girls because every girl I've told it where it's like I tell men to be more specific

Jenny Dealwith their profiles so basically have an actual interesting profile like don't say this year I really want to travel worst idea I've ever had this app don't say that say your typical Sunday is

Jenny Deallistening to the whatever podcast maybe don't say that um so actually your standouts get your prom your prompts a lot more specific so that people actually know

Jenny Dealwhat to talk about and then send messages that are worth responding to No One's Gonna respond to hey or what's up but if you ask about their profile or if you just say something silly like

Jenny Dealdo you know how to can you open a pickle jar then it's like oh someone will want to say something back so those three things get more interaction and being active on the app gets you more interaction because all the dating apps

Brian Atlasthese days are heavily prioritizing active users sure let's do uh let's actually do an experiment we'll keep you both sitting you're going to pretend to be the guy Madison role play actually

Brian AtlasI'll maybe I'll be the girl I'll be the girl you'll be the guy and let's pretend like we're texting um and let's

Brian Atlaswhat's your profile look like why did I why did we match so I'm the chick yeah you got to create a character okay

Brian Atlasum I'm 19. I have I don't date teenagers how old are you 22. I think if you're if

Brian Atlasyou're graduated you should that's your name right Gary as a manager Jenny Jerry's my male name can be Jerry Jerry

Jenny Dealwhy would you not date as a 22. I when I was like 18 19 I had a situationship with like a 22 year old and I feel like it's just weird

Brian AtlasI think three years is fine but like high school senior or college freshmen with like an adult who's graduated is weird I feel like when you're an adult when you're a freshman then I think

Lilyyou're just kind of Legally print on like the lifestyle yeah exactly when you're 21. if someone can't legally drink I feel like it's weird for like

Jenny Dealsomeone with a degree to be trying to date them but 21 you might still be a junior or senior in college but you're a little more well you said you're 19 I said no if you if you said

Jenny Dealyou were like 20 and I'm 22. okay sorry 21. fine okay I'm 21. you're okay I'm 21 year old girl yeah Brianna should I put

Brian Atlason the wig where's the [ __ ] way yeah I'm butcher wait what no I'm the dude wait no oh this is getting confusing you're a

Brian Atlasreally beautiful 21 year old woman I'm gonna die I'm gonna do my what are your what are your hobbies or interests here's my hinge profile um okay

Brian Atlasum all three all three of the prompts are like I don't know what the each individual prompt is but it's like I want someone with a yacht I want someone with a yacht I want to go on a yacht

Brian Atlasin this case I do actually in this case I do no you don't you're no 22 year old has a [ __ ] yacht oh yeah then we'll forget the yacht [ __ ] just whatever I've got some basic chicken okay okay I can

Jenny Dealgive you a character if you want like a pretty basic 22 year old 20 year one year old girl sure let's say you are personal trainer Vibes you like to work out maybe have a little gun show picture

Jenny Dealand you like are outdoorsy I feel like that's a pretty typical type that a lot of men are into I'm the man in this case men are into

Lilyoutdoorsy on hinge people always I was on hinge for a bit and that's mainly the only thing that men were interested in the gym and going hiking

Brian Atlasstop the cap I don't think guys like outdoorsy chicks to be and come up with a different character like as a dude I'll know about you but like as a guy who's [ __ ] busy I don't

Brian Atlashave time to go [ __ ] camping I got [ __ ] to do I'm not I'm not going up first off hiking I just went hiking the other day it's great I feel like I don't know the

Ryan Rhinogranola type girls I don't know if it's really based on how they look like she could say I love hiking but if you look good then all right we're going on a hike but I don't know I guess I I don't really care so much about what they're into but

Brian Atlasyou know there's like the super outdoorsy chicks that like go on tracks yeah like they'll go somewhere for three days and have you what's that [ __ ] type two

Brian Atlasfun type three fun have you guys heard about that weird [ __ ] no hold on just a sec oh hold on let me I'll get it triggered in one sec brother uh one sec

Brian Atlasso there's two there's like three different types of fun let me uh it'll re-trigger in a sec hold on brother

Brian AtlasHulk Hogan over here okay those glamping three fun glamping hello okay type three fun is fun at the time not fun in retrospect wait

TTS Readerhold on there's basically these psychos that like get [ __ ] oh here it is not 50 donated 100 thank you man appreciate it six eight inches dear Slayer back in

TTS Readerthe house love your content keep it up my brother thank you man sir my best friend's dad recently got a small lung cell cancer diagnosis chat please say a

Brian Atlasprayer for him [Music] hey uh sorry to hear about uh your uh best friend's dad uh godspeed to uh his for his uh recovery uh thank you very

Brian Atlasmuch for uh checking in good to see you back again oh hold on sorry donated 100 yep six eight inch our alerts have been a little scuffed recently thank you man appreciate it uh yeah like the different types of fun

Brian Atlaslike these girls are like get stuck in the navalanche and that's like type two fun do you guys know what I'm talking about in the chat have you guys never heard of that I don't know wait hold on this is your

Brian Atlasokay so there's type one fun which is fun type two fun miserable when it's happening fun in retrospect and type 3 fun not fun at all even when you're

Brian Atlaslooking back on it so like and these are like typically these types of outdoorsy people that are all about type 2 type 3 fun where it's like yo we got [ __ ]

Brian Atlasstranded on the Appalachian Trail and we almost died man but it was like excited like Adventure yeah I don't like I don't like those kind of outdoorsy chicks yeah

Ryan RhinoI don't go outside like this so you're a [ __ ] Legend I've never even interacted with an outdoorsy chick before I need to I mean La the scene there's not many of them my roommate if I go to Nashville or something my

Tiffanyroommate begs me to go hiking with her and I'm like girl I am a gamer like do you think I go outside I only go outside to go to the gym and then I come home and then I hermit I haven't met one hiker in my life that was a girl you live in L.A

Brian Atlasin or something nah I haven't wow I've come across many girls okay so you're gonna try yeah um you can be a gamer girl instead yeah

Jenny DealI think we're we're getting too much into the weeds here but okay okay so go ahead figuratively awesome first message let's say you have a photo of you you say you love a valorant player

Brian AtlasI'm gonna ask what what ranking you are or I don't play Valerian yeah I don't I don't know anything about Valerie I used to be friends Gamers say um podcasts World of Warcraft I'm the I'm legendary

Jenny DealI don't know if that's a [ __ ] Valerian drinking so you're radiant I'm radiant well if like let's say I'm trying to seduce Miss gamer girl over here I'd

Jenny Dealprobably ask about what she likes to play or if you're a granola girl I'd be like oh my gosh have you been on any cool hikes I'd love to be stranded in an avalanche with you we're just like oh have you ever been to

Brian Atlaslike this specific height yeah and then boom ask her on a date yeah it's really simple most of what I've done for men over my little no but let's let's role play it so okay

Brian Atlasokay so Pretend We're messaging okay here okay super hot girl getting my phone out okay we're messaging uh okay I'm messaging okay go message me

Jenny DealI'm so ready okay I just saw this coffee shop open up have you ever been it's called La La Land no are you free this weekend

Jenny Dealuh uh maybe Maybe well that then we don't have any conversational chemistry and I'd say ghost and move on but like that's how a lot of girls that's why I do still work

Lilywith some woman but if if you said maybe and I was like she's so my type I feel like or you could just be like oh like if you're not a coffee drinker we're like we can grab a drink almost like we

Jenny Dealcan go go for a walk wait so you're literally your second message is just hey what's up let's go if there's nothing better to say yeah because a lot of people are sick of I call it digital pen pals yeah where you just message

Jenny Dealthat's what me and Mr Lucas are right now um and so if you are someone who's just sick of messaging get get them on a date a low stakes day

Jenny Deallike coffee or drinks where you can chug your drink if it sucks if it's drinks then alcohol is like social lubricant so it'll probably be a bit nicer

Brian Atlasokay let's continue okay I'll give you I'll I'll give you uh um oh uh I'm not free I'm free on Sunday

Jenny Dealthat's my message to you I'm free on Sunday oh see so I was like oh there's a coffee shop and you're like I don't know it and then I'm like well like are you free this weekend you're like I'm free on Sunday I'm like

Jenny Dealall right that's perfect you want to meet at that coffee shop at three okay awesome can I get your insta your number let's let's chat on there I don't use this app too

Jenny Dealexactly oh I'm you I would reply like a few hours later because have a life and go oh my gosh by the way that doesn't sound very manly by the way I'm so bad

Jenny Dealat checking hinge can I have your insta or numbers okay and then text you and then when we actually go on the date on Sunday there's more to talk about what what day of the week is it when you're messaging

Brian Atlasme this Thursday or Friday okay so I send you like about three days before okay I've sent you my insta follow it assume that you follow me back then what do you talk for like a Friday a girl's not sending the first message

Jenny Dealoh yeah no then I'm then I'm sliding well if it's in so you just kind of already see each other and then let's say it's Saturday night and I'm like hey are you still good for tomorrow fifty percent of girls would flake in

Jenny Dealthe situation but okay I'll give you uh I'll be fair enough I'll be uh charitable uh yeah okay I'll see you there at three or actually you know what hold on see it's not simple boom you have a date I

Brian Atlasfeel like as a girl I would never go out with a guy after like two text messages yeah it is it's very minimal it is very minimal but I am trying to be a bit charitable here because I I want to get

Brian Atlasus on the actual date and see see the game on the day let's see actually you know what I will give you an objection oh I'm so sorry um my [ __ ] Pet iguana is not feeling

Jenny Dealgreat so can we do another day yeah of course that's so cool you have a pet iguana what's its name Steve Urkel boy wait what I don't remember what Steve

Jenny DealUrkel's relevant it's the guy yeses yeah be like haha that's so funny do you are you into like was it 90s shows no he's my dad

Jenny Dealthat's freaking deceased I named my pedaguan after my deceased do you believe in spirit animals like Guardian Angel vibes

Jenny Dealno you're weird just kidding okay go ahead that wouldn't happen in L.A okay um you're oh you already answered it's your

Brian Atlasdead dad fatherless okay so now wouldn't

Brian Atlasoh oh are you not used to being the guy because now you have to you have to no I just didn't know if you wanted to like elaborate on your message this week or yeah like so we talk a bit about your iguana yeah yeah probably ask for a

Jenny Dealpicture of the Guana because people love talking about their pets and be like I have Instagram and then I would give like one I'd follow that if you seem cool then give it one try to reschedule

Brian Atlasif you flake again or if you're vague move on to the next no no okay but okay let's say I don't play on the second date okay so so we're getting drinks on Thursday now I don't know if we're gonna role play this whole [ __ ] day

Riley LewisI think it doesn't even have to do with like interest like I feel like girls only date up and like I don't I feel like it has nothing to do with the man's interest I would say it's a matter of are both people wanting to actually go

Jenny Dealon dates or are they on hinge for attention both of which I think are valid enough but if you were someone who were like who was like I really I want to be in a relationship I want to meet people I want to go on dates then it would be as simple as maybe a bit more

Jenny Dealback and forth maybe we talk about your Love of Animals more where it's like oh my gosh you have an iguana that's so cool I grew up with cats this is their name or you're like sorry I'm so busy like I was just on this trip I asked

Brian Atlasabout the trip and then you go on the date if it's not that easy then chances are you don't actually want to be dating we should actually have maybe towards the end of the show we're going to have

Brian Atlasall of you guys try to pick up Madison pretending pretending to be a guy hitting on Madison will set up the scenario um we'll come back to that in a bit um I have a question for you it's Riley

Brian Atlasright yes okay okay so you had a couple in your pre-show comments to us you said your your ex turned gay yeah yeah yeah

Riley Lewisum he did I was with him for like three years and like unfortunately I feel like there were a lot of signs that I probably um should have been aware of but I wasn't

Riley Lewisum like for example one time in the bedroom he um pulled out a wig and it wasn't like a fun girly wig it was like you know a short wig if you know what I'm talking about and obviously I did not put it on like I

Riley Lewisdid not put this wig on like let's be clear but um yeah so we broke up and he joined like the theater program and then like I don't know

Lilyas a theater kid from the past that'll do it to you yeah yeah you have the craziest situations situation was that like we're in your

Riley Lewishead where you're like oh that's his like he likes to put on wigs did he want to do like he wanted to do role play and I still to this day do not know if he bought it like

Riley Lewisfor that night if he had it honestly I don't want to know like I would honestly rather just not know at this point and you said like after that you broke up did you break up because of that well because you thought that was weird Okay

Riley Lewisso also to put it in perspective for you for the last like three months that we were dating he just did not want to like sleep with me um and I was like that's just not normal

Riley Lewislike you're a guy like guys have like higher sex drives than girls like why are you not wanting to like have sex with me you know I was like what um so that was towards the end it was like the one time that he did want to

Riley Lewishave sex with me he wanted me to wear that wig so you know I was like is it colored it was like a normal it was like brown like it was not colored like short rounds like it was like short like it

Riley Lewiswas like like remember like that girl that like walked out like it was short like it was like that

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