Is Margot Robbie MID?! 2 GIRLS RAGEQUIT! | Dating Talk #85

Date: 2023-07-19

Duration: 5h 34m

Guests

Brian Atlas

TTiffany (DT85)>

BBethany (DT85)>

MMadison (DT94)>

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00TTS Reader(audience)

SPEAKER_01TTS Reader(audience)

SPEAKER_02Riley Lewis(guest)

SPEAKER_03Bethany(guest)

SPEAKER_05Tiffany(guest)

SPEAKER_06Lily(guest)

SPEAKER_08Ryan Rhino(guest)

SPEAKER_09Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_10Madison(guest)

SPEAKER_11Jenny Deal(guest)

SPEAKER_12Eve Marlowe(guest)

SPEAKER_14Adira Lore(guest)

Key Moments

IntroGuest introductions — Adira Lore through Madison in order at the table

“"hi my name is adira lore I am 28 years old I'm from LA and I do porn... hi my name is Eve Marlowe I am 31 years old... I'm Tiffany I'm 24... I'm Bethany I'm 18... I'm Jenny or dating coach deals... I'm Riley Lewis I'm 20... I'm Lily I'm 23 from Nashville... my name is Ryan I am 25... my name is Madison I'm 18"”

QuoteRiley Lewis introduces herself as a "virtual stripper" and explains it means OnlyFans

“"I'm Riley Lewis I'm 20 years old I'm from Hollywood and I am a virtual stripper... um I do only fans"”

RelationshipRiley reveals her one-sided open relationship and boyfriend's sudden wheelchair situation

“"I'm in a fully committed um one-sided open relationship... I'm not allowed to get with other people but um he's allowed to... he's been in a wheelchair because he's like kind of paralyzed right now"”

QuoteAdira rates herself 10/10 and argues everyone should call themselves a 10

“"I'm gonna fucking ride hard for myself and I'm gonna say I'm a 10 out of 10 and I don't care who the fuck has to say anything"”

QuoteLily reveals she slid into recurring Whatever guest Chase's DMs; he did not reply and she deleted the message

“"I did slip into his jams but I don't... I remember opening the DM I don't know... I think I deleted it... I got a little embarrassed"”

QuoteRiley reveals her boyfriend is currently in a wheelchair from acute autoimmune disorder

“"ever since my birthday which was about like a week and a half ago he's been in a wheelchair because he's like kind of paralyzed right now... it happened to him once before like three years ago"”

ControversyAdira Lore and Eve Marlowe ragequit the show mid-episode during self-rating/Belladonna debate

“"okay well that's my ride so" [Eve follows Adira out] ... "sorry guys we had two girls walk off the show"”

QuoteRiley tells story of ex-boyfriend who came out as gay after a skiing head injury; cheated with his male best friend

“"he went on this trip with his friends it was like a boys trip... he falls off the roof and he hits his head and I swear to you that that was when he turned gay... at some point in our relationship he cheated on me with a guy... it was his best friend"”

Key MomentJenny "Deal" demonstrates live Hinge coaching — role-plays messaging strategy with Brian

“"I just saw this coffee shop open up have you ever been it's called La La Land... are you free this weekend... I'm free on Sunday... all right that's perfect you want to meet at that coffee shop at three"”

ControversyMadison describes her reaction to catching a partner cheating — would grab the other woman by the hair

“"I would probably grab her hair pull that shit out drag her out of the apartment and then scream at him and then dip"”

QuoteTiffany reveals ex had a foot/shoe fetish and paid her $300/week to send heel-walking videos

“"it was a long distance relationship after I left Virginia so I would send him videos of me walking in heels and he would pay me for that... he would pay me like 300 a week"”

QuoteBrian plays Riley's TikToks showing near-identical content to his own — exposes plagiarism on air

“"would you be okay with your long-term monogamous partner going to a bar club party... [plays Brian's version] ...that sounds really familiar"”

QuoteRiley reveals her breast implants cost $15,000, paid by her parents

“"they weren't as bad as I thought they'd be actually... my parents actually paid for it... yeah 15 [thousand]"”

TopicBrian proposes "Thursdays with Riley" show as Riley's penance for plagiarizing his content

“"you are gonna host the Thursday show... every single week it's gonna be a dating talk but you're gonna host it... it will be called Thursdays with Riley"”

Topics Discussed

Introductions & Show Announcements

Brian introduces show; co-host Kiki mentioned as shy. Guests introduce in order: Adira Lore (28, LA, adult performer), Eve Marlowe (31, Las Vegas, matchmaker), Tiffany (24, LA, content creator/OnlyFans), Bethany (18, OC, model), Jenny "Deal" (22, Boston, dating coach), Riley Lewis (20, Hollywood, virtual stripper/OnlyFans), Lily (23, Nashville, lifestyle coach), Ryan "Rhino" (25, YouTuber), Madison (18, San Diego, student/bar host/co-host).

Relationship Status Round

Adira: newly in a relationship (ready to settle down), prior toxic relationships. Eve: recently single, out of 3-month relationship, single 5 years prior (married age 17-20). Tiffany: pretty single (~5 months since 3-year relationship). Bethany: single ~4 months, longest relationship 1 year. Jenny: single 1-2 months, happily dating around, texting Swiss musician "Lucas." Riley: one-sided open relationship (her boyfriend can see others, she cannot). Lily: single. Ryan: single. Madison: in relationship with Frankie.

Riley's Boyfriend in a Wheelchair / Open Relationship

Riley reveals her boyfriend (content creator) suddenly developed an autoimmune disorder a week and a half prior and is now in a wheelchair — second occurrence (first ~3 years prior, also resolved). She describes their one-sided open relationship established from the beginning of dating. Boyfriend flew her and another influencer to an island on their second date. Brian asks about intimacy logistics given the wheelchair situation.

Margot Robbie Mid Debate

Brian presents viral claim that Margot Robbie is "mid." Panel and chat debate whether she is overrated. Adira argues ratings are meaningless; Eve notes celebrities are compared against other celebrities not everyday people. Discussion of double standard: calling a female celebrity mid causes outrage; calling a male celebrity mid (Ryan Gosling, Timothy Chalamet, Beyonce, Michael B Jordan) gets no reaction. Ryan Rhino says female attractiveness standards are artificially inflated by makeup/surgery/professional photography.

Self-Rating Round

Brian asks all guests to rate their appearance on a scale of 1-10. Adira: 10 (argues everyone should say 10, makeup makes her look worse). Eve: 9. Bethany: ~7-7.5 (depends on makeup). Jenny "Deal": 5 in California, 7-8 in Boston depending on hair. Riley: 7-8 (upgraded herself after breast augmentation 2 months prior). Lily: 8-9. Ryan "Rhino": 6.8. Madison: 6.5 without makeup, 8 with full makeup. Brian: 6 without makeup, 7 with. Adira escalates into philosophical argument against the concept of self-rating, becoming increasingly agitated.

Two Guests Ragequit

Adira Lore and Eve Marlowe leave the show mid-episode (~1:16 mark) during the Belladonna/self-rating debate. Adira becomes upset when the conversation turns to Belladonna (famous porn star); she takes it as an affront. Eve says "that's my ride so" and follows. Brian and remaining guests react: the walkout was over a mild conversation, blue-haired girl (Eve) had originally reached out to request to be on the show. Show continues with 7 remaining panelists; seating arrangement is adjusted.

Ex Turned Gay / Toxic Relationship Stories

Riley tells story of her 3-year ex-boyfriend (ages 16-19) who cheated on her with his male best friend ~6 months before their breakup. Riley's theory: he fell off a roof on a ski trip and hit his head, which she believes caused the change. Signs she missed: wanted her to wear a short brown wig in bed, low sex drive in final months, spent more time with his best friend. Brian discusses phenomenon of women being attracted to dangerous/incarcerated men. Bethany tells story of fight with best friend who cheated with her ex.

Dating App Coaching / Hinge Role Play

Jenny "Deal" demonstrates her Hinge coaching methodology. Tips: X out standouts tab for more profile visibility, write specific prompts, send messages worth responding to (not "hey"). Brian and Jenny role-play a Hinge messaging scenario (Brian as girl, Jenny as guy). Discussion of getting a date quickly vs extended digital pen-pal stage. Tiffany plays gamer girl character. Role play proceeds through first message to date confirmation. Panel debates how many texts are needed before asking for a date.

Cheating Response / Would You Fight?

Brian poses scenario: you come home to find your partner cheating mid-act. Panel responses: Madison would grab the other woman by the hair and drag her out. Riley would leave in silence and block. Bethany would go "ape shit" and attack both. Tiffany would cause a scene then leave. Jenny would pack and leave silently. Lily would walk out without violence. Ryan would walk out smoothly. Discussion of whether the severity changes if the third party is a close friend (unanimous: yes, double betrayal). Brian argues rational response is to leave the partner, not fight the stranger.

Dating Dynamics: Who Initiates / Men vs Women

Brian asks what percentage of first dates are initiated by men — consensus ~99%. Discussion of whether men and women have equal dating options; classic adage "women sleep with who they want, men sleep with who they can." Madison challenges Brian's use of the saying. Discussion of boss-babe success as attractive to men (Ryan argues men do not care about a woman's income). Riley argues biggest predictor of divorce is woman earning more than man. Jenny discusses how men's attraction patterns relate to their mother figures.

Sugar Daddies / Financial Simping

Tiffany reveals she had a long-distance ex who had a shoe fetish and paid her $300/week to send videos of herself walking in heels; $1,000 at a time occasionally. Riley has online sugar daddies via OnlyFans only (no in-person meetups). Lily receives $100/week from a man just to text him (non-sexual). Madison paid $500 for a gift to a guy she was seeing for 3 months who was also seeing other women. Bethany had informal sugar daddy arrangements met at clubs (received ~$2,400 cash + ~$5,000 total from one man including a Vegas trip and beach house weekend). Discussion of AI girlfriends and pay pigs.

Nice Guys vs. Toxic Behavior / Attraction Patterns

Discussion of whether women are attracted to bad behavior or confident behavior. Brandon's saying: "if you treat her like dirt she'll stick to you like mud." Ryan describes his own trajectory from nice guy to less attentive and how his dating results improved. Jenny argues it is about selecting for the right type of woman. Madison observes younger women often prefer a bit of edginess while mature women prefer stability. Brian discusses women who write letters to incarcerated men; evolutionary attraction to men capable of violence as protection signal. Discussion of makeup-sex after arguments.

Riley Plagiarism Gag / "Thursdays with Riley"

Brian plays several TikTok clips of Riley Lewis using near-identical language to Brian's own YouTube/podcast content — same "would you be okay with your monogamous partner being pursued at a bar" premise, same "everything around you was built by men" argument, same "big dick energy" gender double standard bit. Riley admits to "plagiarizing" Brian's content, claims she started TikTok recently and didn't realize it was frowned upon. Brian proposes "Thursdays with Riley" — a weekly dating talk show hosted by Riley from the Whatever studio, with Brian as background presence.

Transcript

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Brian Atlasdifference there because uh the the dating Dynamics between women who are bisexual or who are lesbian it differs quite substantially between the

Brian Atlasdating Dynamics between straight men and straight women or I suppose you could say with straight men and bi women but that's kind of whatever being a man trying to pursue woman is different than being a woman

Brian Atlasbecause I think I think women let's say a woman who's bi going to give let's not even we can say women who a woman who's by a

Brian Atlaswoman whose bi is going to give another girl a lot more leeway than a straight guy there's going to be much I think there's what Behavior would she accept there's gonna be I think there's going to be

Brian Atlasmuch more expectations on a straight man ver like from a bisexual woman she's gonna expect more from the straight man than than from another woman in fact she

Brian Atlasmight even like for example she may kind of lean more into having the guy be the initiator whereas she's like she might be more of a pursuer when it comes to women I feel like that makes a little bit of sense

Lilythough because she's already she's already a woman she knows how woman yeah operate like she's already figured out kind of so that's why she'd be able to pursue the woman well then also what about like paying for the first date I think

Jenny Dealthere's typically more of an expectation that like guys pay for the first date we'll see that's why I say coffee dates because everyone has five bucks to be nice but no one's gonna be offended if he didn't pay for coffee we'll say if it's like two women going on a date

Lilytogether whoever like I feel like situations where it's like two women are in a relationship there's always one that's a little more feminine and one that's a little more masculine so

Bethanythe one that's a little more masculine would obviously pay in that situation I feel like no matter like which gender I think whoever like initiated the asking out like whoever invited you to

Bethanygo out you know sorry there's a motorcycle passing can we just have you uh repeat that one more time yeah so I feel like it doesn't matter which gender like whoever asks the other person out

Bethanywhoever initiated it should be the one paying have you ever asked a guy out but if I did if I did I would pay

Brian Atlasawesome well yeah yeah I think so you prefer that you'd like would that be there I just think I just think that's the most I think that's the most Fair way to do it is it the most Fair what do

Brian Atlasyou think uh of all the first dates that have occurred in the past five years if you had to like break down who's the initiator in let's say heterosexual relationships would you say it's men or

Brian Atlaswomen like what would the percentage break down what do you mean who's who's initiating like what percentage do you think like if you ninety percent men 95 men 99 men are asking for the first date

Bethanyuh yeah I maybe like 80 percent okay I also feel like girls kind of expect the guys to ask them out you know or that's just like what's been known I

Brian AtlasI think it's a bit higher than 80 I want to probably put it at like 99 it's probably 99 I think it's probably 99 are there like actual stats

Brian Atlason that or no yeah I don't suspect there are but like maybe there are but I mean it seems a little self-evident to me that overwhelmingly men are initiating

Ryan Rhinouh First Dates have you ever had a girl initiate um one time my whole life yeah and uh and you're 25 right I'm 25 yeah and I have like and

Brian Atlasshe was a fan of the videos that I make because you have like you're very popular you've got how many followers on Instagram like over a million right what did you have on Instagram like 1.1 1.1 million followers on Instagram your

Brian Atlaschannel has like what ten eight million on eight million eight million on uh love live serve that's it that's it okay sorry and sometimes I get it backwards

Brian Atlasbut uh so like you got in once in my life one time yeah just to clarify like she asked but you you get some DMS from girls or like

Brian Atlasnot not that many no really I feel like so many girls would I get that all the time like I would think people would talk to him like enough that's crazy like it's I need your help you know

Brian Atlaswhat's crazy though like put put a girl in your boots in your shoes like and with the exact same like a million followers on Instagram eight

Brian Atlasmillion followers on YouTube oh yeah that's thousands of DMS and offers and this from a-listers and all that you know what even but even like a girl who's got

Brian Atlaslike a thousand followers on Instagram is getting like you know we should go around the table let's go around the table on this I know we got some content creators here but maybe we could uh see

Brian Atlaswhat what the situation is so um Maddie you've been on the show a little bit so I'm I mean guys are probably like sliding into your DMs from the show despite the fact that you're in a

Lilyrelationship I would say like like before I was on the show before you were on the show yeah yeah I would still get a lot of DMS from men but I would say ever since I've been

Brian Atlason the show it like fell off Skyrocket oh skyrocketed okay yeah um before the show like how many per week or how many per month per month I would say like

Brian Atlasfour or five oh okay that's not it's not that great but I mean some dudes don't even get that their entire life compared to other ideas uh what about

Lilyyou how were the DMS looking um that seed booster did not help no it didn't no I get Maybe probably eight to ten a month to 10 a month okay

Riley Lewiswhat about you um I get like a decent amount every day what's a decent amount how many DMS per day but to be fair you are a content creator right I right and you know I

Riley Lewisalso do only fans so there's always say like before you did like before I did content creating I would say like I would probably get I don't know like

Jenny Dealtwo or three a day wow okay two three day um my account's always been private and my only public one is dating coaching

Jenny Dealum with the dating coaching I'll have people at like hitting on me just like a couple times a month it's kind of weird to hit on a dating coach um before that just like once a month or something with my little private

Jenny DealHometown account okay what you said once or twice a month yeah with my like me were you getting chicks or dudes hitting you up or about oh the woman the ladies

Jenny Dealum no I would I only get would get on like my personal account like maybe maybe once a month and it's like a random dude okay what about you

Tiffanyokay get like a good amount every day they're all like really funny to read like they'll tell me they're calling me like Mommy and they'll be like can you please like punch me in the face and

Tiffanykill me and I'll be like oh my God like actually I've had people requests

Tiffanyyeah I'm like okay like they want to pay you like they this guy offered to like pay me to like kick him in the nuts for like 30 minutes

Tiffanyforcefully I would totally do that and this one guy actually paid me one time to come to my house in a maid outfit and where he wore heels and he cleaned my entire house

Tiffanyhe sucked on my toes dude but then he paid me it was a good amount of money you got paid for him to clean your house wait so you cleaned you cleaned his house no he cleaned him he came to your

Tiffanyhouse was it her ex when that turned gay outfit he wore heels and he cleaned my

Tiffanyentire house and then paid me how much and sucked her toes we sucked my toes did he massage them well he he was like a sub and he found me through like

TiffanyInstagram I'm surprised you even accepted the offer well because I went yeah I put these naked wolf boots on my store and I was like oh I really like these boots and this guy was like I will

Tiffanybuy them for you if and yeah that's how it all started and like I had a relationship with him for like two years it wasn't like I never had sex with him like a real like a sub relationship I

Tiffanynever [ __ ] him or anything we never even kissed you would only like suck on my toes one time he made me stand on his whole face with both of my feet and I thought I was gonna break him wait I thought there was just like a random

Brian Atlasdude though okay he was a random dude but like turns out he lived like five minutes away from me at my parents house can you skip the mic just that way a little bit where was this story on earlier on yeah I didn't get the chance

Brian Atlasto bring it up okay does anybody I will go into that a little bit but does anybody else have some crazy [ __ ] like that I've gotten looking at you I feel

Lilylike you've got some skeletons in in what regard I don't know something yeah no but I do have somebody that has been harassing me since I was 14 years old

Tiffanylet's not talk about that okay so different type of skeletons um okay so hold on how much did he pay you um he paid me like a band to clean my

Tiffanyhouse and like suck on my toes shoes everything like he like he's bought me like my whole shoe collection was just from him damn how much money he had a

Tiffanyreally big like Shoe Fetish not even foot like his shoe fetish but he loved shoes women's shoes yes did he wear them yeah but he also like it was a long distance relationship after I left

TiffanyVirginia so I would send him videos of me walking in heels and he would pay me for that just curious okay so he paid you 1 000 one time how much total I don't know he would pay me like 300 a week just

Tiffanybecause but also I would be like hey can you pay for my electricity bill he'd pay for it or like hey like I want this can you buy it boom boom boom boom and yeah was it

Tiffanywas it a white guy he was well I think he was like Persian he's Persian

Brian Atlasa soft-spoken Persian man wow damn uh so you if you had to take a guess a stab at how much total are we talking ten thousand twenty thousand

Tiffanythirty thousand forty thousand so like in a month maybe that might be easy total total like total total I have no idea like maybe like 30 000 or

Tiffanysomething like that dude that's pretty holy [ __ ] it's pretty good that's so crazy thirty thousand like yeah men paying her bills for her to clean her house before but like that that's and that's

Tiffanyone dude have you had other dudes maybe not on the scale was this is like the most yeah I've had I've had a guy uh pay me for live streams but I was never naked like he's

Tiffanyjust like I guess like really liked talking to me and um yeah I would like I would wear like something skimpy or like he'd be like oh like I like this kind of fashion style can we maybe do like a little like

Tiffanydress-up you do the makeup like that and then you like pick out an outfit blah blah blah and like this man would pay me I think at most he paid me four thousand dollars for like a one to two hour like

Tiffanylive stream of just hand wait four thousand dollars four thousand dollars per live stream well not per live streams it ranges from like a thousand to like four thousand because he'll be like can we keep going like I'll give

Tiffanyyou 500 more dollars and then like after like the 10 minutes is up he'd be like okay wait can I give you like another like 800 keep going wow for like you said two to three hours

TTS Readerit was like at most two hours hold on atheist donated 100 hey Brian are you aware of the Adam 22 lean of the plug situation with Jason love keep up the great work man yo

Brian Atlaswhat's up man by the way I did see your membership chat unfortunately the way stream yards work it won't show those like renewed membership chats thank you for the uh TTS man uh yes I'm aware of the situation I've actually been talking

Brian Atlasto adam22 we've been messaging for months now we're we're I might go I'm gonna go on no jumper and then we're gonna try to get we've been we're gonna try to get them on on Friday uh

Brian Atlashim and his wife to come on the show uh we might do that potentially later on in the month with it's hard to it's hard scheduling for the both of us we're both super busy so but uh I'm aware of the

TTS Readersituation oh hey Mike Davis donated 100 we'll get Jason left teams you a cool cat it's all love if I would have tuned in earlier I would have reserved the

TTS ReaderFlames for that pink feminist Misfit weirdo mentally deranged Brian sometimes you gotta throw out the trash before it

Brian Atlastakes itself out he left a stench brutal uh damn hey you know this is what it is um you know luckily they didn't cause a

Brian Atlashuge scene you know I yeah wasn't too phased with it you know just they left didn't you know so whatever she could have done something more

Brian Atlasuh she could have done some crazy anyways uh Mike Davis thank you very much much appreciated um okay so hold on one thousand to fourth out and you these would be

Tiffanylike two three hours like two-ish hours but it's not like I did it like all the time it was like a once in a month maybe if he was like feeling really horny late at night kind of thing do you have did it ever like cross your mind what if he

Tiffanywas like re-streaming your stream to like another stream and like you know what I mean it's probably unlikely but this is not like he had this like whole trauma about another girl that he did it with and he was like

Tiffanytelling me about it how like they found out like um his name IRL and his friends found out and everything because like I know like I know him like I know his name type [ __ ] so he was like I would never do that to you because like I know that

Brian Atlasyou can blackmail me back so wait it's okay so how many times did you do this live stream I don't know like a like a good like okay ten times and you said between well

Tiffanylike I'm really busy now you know so it's like when he hits me up like I kind of kind of just like ah about it okay oh so he you're still kind of in touch with him yeah I'm not in touch with the the foot guy anymore I think he goes to

Tiffanyme after he had a girlfriend which makes sense but the other guy like I mean I have love for both of them you know it's like thank you for this experience okay and we will go around the table

Brian Atlaskind of okay I'm just trying to force this I didn't finish no yeah and we didn't finish the initial one but okay so that guy probably paid you twenty

Brian Atlasthousand the streaming dude total um I don't know the first guy he he had like interesting requests that he wanted you to do

Tiffanyyeah like I want you to step on me and [ __ ] yeah he would like make I would spit on the floor and he'd lick it up wow that's creative

TiffanyI think that's like what turned me into like the dominant woman I am today that that kind of like were you enjoying it no I mean like it's okay awkward Loki I felt awkward because like I didn't find

Tiffanyhim like attractive or anything I did for the money yeah yeah um but like now it's like fun to like be like a switch in bed you know and like show like the dominant side that I

Brian Atlaslearned how to do from can we do a um can you and Ryan do a little you said you're you can be Dom can you Dom can you Dom Ryan really quick are you Ryan do you consent

Brian Atlasyou know do you consent to this can I get thrust into this Pig I don't why don't you do it

Tiffanyit's abilities that it's the most I have to I don't think I can I don't think I can have that would you let me choke you and spit in your mouth holy [ __ ] that's not that intense good time see I'm but you

Ryan Rhinoguys picked the wrong person for the for that one I'm sorry I'm not gonna be able to consent to that well I mean like yeah I wouldn't do it live well she wants a piece after the show okay all right wait

Brian Atlasare you trying to get them to do something on the show yeah no not like anything obscene it's just like like how would you like what like are you talking like degradation type [ __ ] yeah I would like degrade him yeah I'd be like you

Brian Atlas[ __ ] pathetic piece of [ __ ] blah blah blah you know how do these dudes like also somehow have like a [ __ ] ton of money it's so like yeah it's very interesting

Tiffanyum okay so that's cool so that's two dudes yeah uh any other I mean like situation you got a lot of these fun only fans clients I love them so there's that too

Brian Atlasare you making six figures a month total does it matter how much I mean no I'm just curious I'm just I'm not like I just make a good amount of money to take

Brian Atlascare I want to do the reverse finesse so how do we do this okay um I want from you

Brian Atlasthree thousand dollars a month to promote um I will uh

Brian AtlasI'm not sure how we're gonna explore this

TiffanyI'll send you feed picks I will send you fee picks for three thousand dollars a month deal we like I like you no you pay me you pay me this is the reverse men feed I wouldn't know

Tiffanyyou haven't seen my feet son yeah I would never want to keep it that way you have not seen my future I get so scared when I see like okay I'll show you ankles what about ankles I don't want to

Brian Atlaspay you for anything this is the reverse finesse this is the circle of life this is the circle like I'm not willing to do that

Brian Atlasmaybe I'm sure you could find someone out forward pay it forward it's the it's the the circle of life of only fans dudes are paying for your feet picks or

Jenny Dealwhatever the [ __ ] and I'm just saying you're paying for mine with the reverse not be more like she pays to send you pics like pays you to accept them

Tiffanybecause otherwise you're just reversing customer client so are they like painted French tip huh are they like French tip Toes or

Brian Atlasjust like are they white there's some normal painted white there's some normal normal feet are they hairy they're good you show them right now I'm not I'm not

Brian Atlasgonna show anything right now they were hairy okay that's crazy okay let's move on WE that's that's one that's one that's crazy though that like I mean we've heard it before from the girls on on the panel that there's like a bunch

Brian Atlasof dudes who are like spending tons of money on chicks for these things but it hey man whatever uh what was the original question

Bethanyoh how many yeah how many DMS honestly not a lot maybe like per week stop the cap I swear like two to three at most at

Brian Atlasmost like really not that much okay all right um and then have you had any situations like her where dudes just be simping and send a new [ __ ] money and um I I did have like a couple I guess

Bethanylike sugar daddies or whatever that would kind of just send me money when I needed you've had sugar daddies yeah but I I don't do that you've cut that out yeah

Brian Atlaswait but you're hold on you're 18 correct yeah you had sugar dad

Bethanydid you have sugar daddies before no no oh okay this I mean this is this wasn't that long ago but like I just kind of got weird out because I think they kind of wanted like sex and stuff so I was like and they're like six

Bethanyguys yeah so I was like no but they would kind of just send me money when I asked or if I would like hang out with them and stuff like that were you on were you on seeking how did you um I actually met a lot of them at like

Brian Atlasclubs and stuff you're 18. yeah I got connections okay uh were you going to clubs before you turned 18 . um

BethanyI think yes I think at the end yeah yeah like right when I was about to turn 18. stay safe gentlemen uh okay uh so

Brian Atlasyou had some sugar daddies yeah and you just say hey I need help with rent or yeah I want to go shopping how much so what what's the most a guy's ever spent on you

BethanyI went on a trip with one of them to Vegas and he gave me I think it was like 2400 2400 did you negotiate it or um I I said it was I said I like needed

Bethanyhelp I think it was like for my car I need something fixed and um on the trip at the end of it he gave me like a white envelope and it was like all in cash and stuff okay so I think that's the most that's the most 20

Bethanybut did you see him multiple times yeah I think I've only seen him in total I think it was only like three times but we we don't talk anymore did he pay you other times too yeah like

Bethanyover text and stuff like he was one of the guys when I just like asked like said I like needed something or whatever he would pay me maybe like 200 to 300.

Brian Atlasokay so you he paid you maybe in total like over 3 000. probably more than that maybe like 5 000 in total oh okay any other guys you said you had a couple sugar daddies

Brian Atlasum the other ones weren't really sugar daddies I guess what were they just pay pigs what pay pigs what's that that's a term oh no okay just like so I guess they just pay you I guess technically

Brian Atlasjust one because the other guys weren't really paying me well they were just like taking you out to dinner yeah yeah company yeah they weren't like straight up just like here's cash no okay got it

Bethanybut they would like did any of them take you on any trips or anything or the only one was with the one guy who took me to Vegas and then he also got me and my friends

Lilyum like a beach house for a weekend was it an event or like Coachella yeah just for fun just for fun okay yo where's all the [ __ ] chicks that are some guys will literally like pay

Brian Atlasyou just to text them yeah yeah which is crazy have you guys heard of the AI girlfriend what no but I believe that yeah send the hold on this is more than the asteroid

Lilyhold on we're sending the [ __ ] nuke [ __ ] you know that one guy on like uh send the [ __ ] strange addiction who like is like obsessed with like his doll

Bethanyoh I saw it and he like got married to her and everything dresses her up he made it no did he see he made them like a family like he gave birth to the doll

Lilyyes but it's it's like a doll family yeah he's the only human one can I public service announcement from [ __ ] me

Brian Atlascan you guys stop doing this [ __ ] guys like stop it my God what are you guys [ __ ] doing

Brian Atlaswait what spend your money on me son huh no but seriously guys stop [ __ ] ah doing this [ __ ] you're [ __ ] it up for everybody I don't know dude it's just

Brian Atlaskind of pathetic dude guys I'm not shaming the girls if I was an 18 year old yes but I honestly felt

Brian Atlasbad for him like that's like so sad a lot I feel like a lot of these guys are it is kind of it's sad it is kind of sad I don't I'm not really shaming really so much that I think the guys

Brian Atlascan't you got to stop yeah stop that for yourself guys now there are definite look there are some women that are like predatory with it but like a lot of these dudes are like

Brian Atlasthey're they're not getting like they're seeking this out so there are look some dudes are getting played and there's some predatory women but like a lot of dudes perfectly happy engaging in the [ __ ] and

Brian Atlasit's just guys please I don't care how down bad you are don't do this [ __ ] sorry guys sorry for those of you who are enjoying the benefits but um okay we have Alex B here yo Brian your mood is

Brian Atlasup 300 please tell us is it a health Improvement new woman in your life both also I'm crafting you a custom pen uh go respond to my message did I oh this I feel like I saw someone messaging me

Brian Atlasabout wanting to hook me up with a pen I'll say hook up with you yeah did you email me Alex or did you I'm trying to remember maybe it was a DM

Brian AtlasI'm like backlogged on checking my DMs I get so many DMS it's insane so I apologize if I missed it but uh mood wise uh just you know I think the shows have been Madison really a little

Brian Atlassmoother yeah we didn't have those girls leave but uh yeah the guests we've had on it's been pretty smooth and I've been trying to like RE shift a little bit my uh I don't know

Brian Atlasand there's just like a lot of [ __ ] going on like prior to the break just like just a lot it seemed like one thing after another with like the show so um

Brian Atlasit was it was like a tough stretch there but uh yeah um yeah so yeah thank you man appreciate it oh I do have one statement here um I'm gonna put this banana on the table

Brian Atlasto send to TTS you get to pick someone at this table it could be me it could be Ryan it could be any anybody here

Brian Atlasto eat the banana in a semi-erotic way the next person to send to TTS just say

Brian Atlasjust pick a name and they have to you are legally bound to eat that banana in a romantic fashion I like bananas I don't care if you're allergic you are

Brian Atlasgonna have we're gonna get an EpiPen and [ __ ] you up well you don't like bananas but yeah what she didn't hear it are you

Brian Atlasexplaining it to her yeah the next person who sends a TTS uh somebody has to eat eat the bananas please don't say me they choose if you guys want me to come back uh so let's go with you we'll

Brian Atlasgo this way wait what oh just like uh have you had a sugar daddy situation dude simpon over you spending money anything like that no

Brian Atlasby the way just I don't know if you were upset about the the the feet I was a joke just oh no no I was joking yeah I thought maybe you might have been offended that I was soliciting your like

TiffanyI was trying to make you a Sim oh no no no I was just like kind of [ __ ] around I thought it was funny oh okay cool I was letting you know that I don't want your feet okay cool I just I I didn't want to offend you unless they're

Tiffanyfrench tips so that can be arranged have you ever had your toes sucked on before why are you trying asking

Brian AtlasI think one girl requested it really and I was like I will oblige you in your in your fantasy whatever it doesn't do anything for me you

Brian Atlasstepped on her toes no no she sucked on yours she requested it I was like if that's what gets you off we can I'm not gonna knock your I'm not gonna

Brian Atlasknock your yeah see your toes have been sucked before One Time by a woman she requested it I was like [ __ ] it let's try it happened it happened

Brian Atlasso you're are you because you you kind of like uh upped the ante here I just wanted to send feed picks now you're trying to suck my toes no I was just like asking a question hmm would you

Tiffanywhat let's talk finances son what are we talking here no I'm saying like willing you got cash on you what's up well I wouldn't pay for it but I'm saying like let's say hypothetically we were in a

Tiffanyrelationship let me take my shoes off oh hypothetically we were dating like would you let me suck on your dogs my dogs oh my toes

Brian Atlassure why not yeah cool I'm Not Gonna Knock somebody's blood it wouldn't it wouldn't do anything for me but like My Philosophy is if it turns my partner on then as long as it's something I'm comfortable with

Brian Atlasit I would be like oh that's a little uh that's fair might be a little ticklish you know what I'm saying but okay so like whatever that's pretty it's pretty harmless

Tiffanystill like if we were dating would you suck on my toes no why if she asked no just that's just a boundary for mine but what if it turned me on

Brian AtlasI can't Brian's a germaphobe I'm a germaphobe thanks for the save yeah of course I am a germaphobe and yeah I wouldn't do that fresh out of the

Lilyshower painted yeah they're like painted nicely I don't think that would help your cause your favorite color well you still got like dirt grown under your toenails I'm

Brian AtlasI'm of the philosophy if you know look in that specific situation no I wouldn't do that okay I wouldn't do that if you want to suck on mine not it's not my thing but if it turns

Brian Atlasyou on if you're gonna be [ __ ] soaking wet after it I'm let's [ __ ] do it hell yeah rock and roll rock and roll it's pretty that's pretty harmless

TTS Readerso you know whatever oh sh oh doc vener Billy is donated one hundred dollars okay hold on We're not gonna do the feet

Brian Atlasthing dark the Nablus but um okay oh wow okay she's uh she's a team player going for it okay it's a what brand banana it's a doll okay that's a very high quality banana yeah okay is this wait

Ryan Rhinohow do you guys pull your banana this way this way you're supposed to feel the other way so you can hold the tip yeah whoa wouldn't you guys Crazy Monkeys you guys out of your [ __ ] minds it's because the stem is for you to hold so

Brian Atlasyou don't have to like oh man that sounds like a lot of work okay oh I don't really [ __ ] with bananas

Brian Atlasthis is what I want you to do I want you to do like a death stare look right into this camera here come on come on

Brian Atlascome on whoa yeah just pound it no no no just kidding I'm in up to you that's talent that's talent

Brian Atlasdid that's talent what did it did it hit the gag reflex

Brian Atlasoh okay does that count that was it's done that was beautiful that was great good that was um okay um what the [ __ ] were you talking what

Brian Atlaswere we talking about we were going oh no no we were we were in the middle conversation we were in the middle of negotiations negotiations negotiations so let's talk money right okay I'm not

Brian Atlasgonna pay you to suck on your toes whoa that's hold on okay hold on still on the toes uh listen there's got to be a financial component here you think I'm cheap you think I'm cheap

Brian Atlasvery pricey I'm expensive okay oh okay yeah that's right okay what's your question no number come on for what to suck on your toes yeah yeah

Tiffanyson I would not pay you to suck on your toes bro this is your fantasy this is not my fantasy I'm just saying hypothetically speaking oh hypothetically speaking what like I thought we already went through this

Tiffanylike hypothetically speaking if we were dating would you suck on my toes will I suck on your toes sorry bro would you let me suck on your toes I don't even know why we're still on this one yeah he said yeah we already answered no I said

Lilyno I would not suck I would not no she said would you or yeah what what so is there a negotiation here in like our

TTS Readerwhat huh no [Music] Bender the offender donated 99 socking toes equals disavow what does

Brian Atlasthat mean disavow it's like I'm against that

Lilyokay let's move on uh we were asking the panel about the sugar daddy oh yeah we were on

Brian AtlasGertrude Gertrude are you coming back Gertrude oh sorry uh Jennifer Genevieve Genevieve

Lilyum Barbie the 12 Dancing Princesses yeah that's what Genevieve reminds me of and she's the main princess yeah uh sorry we were asking the has there been

Riley Lewisa sugar daddy type situation no no uh Riley what about you um I have like some sugar daddies on only fans but nothing outside of that I

Riley Lewisdo like all of my like messaging like through only fans do you have any pay pigs pay pigs like people who pay more than like others just like a dude who you can hit up be

Riley Lewislike yo I need to buy a new bag or I don't know what the [ __ ] people are doing I mean yeah I have like a lot of guys who I guess are you know pay pigs um but I

Riley Lewisalso like you know I talk to them so it's like I don't know it's kind of like a relationship I guess in that sense but not like you know um word yeah so you have sugar daddies but

Lilyit's strictly online you're not like meeting up with anything yeah yeah okay what about you and your sugar daddies situations never had any but I get DMS asking like people ask me to crush their

Brian Atlashead between my thighs like five thousand dollars can we see a quad check we do a quad check because we we got the box hold on let me see if we can yeah you can I guess you can stand on the chair

Brian Atlasoh there we go oh wait can you excuse me wait you're kind of out of front are you able to scoot over like a time would you mind sharing like your squat PR's damn wow okay oh wow

Brian Atlas[Music] holy [ __ ] oh my God oh my God yeah whoa what the wow that's crazy oh my God

Brian Atlasthat's awesome okay wow that's uh that's thank you for that it's good um okay so you get dudes hitting you up to

Lily[ __ ] just like and and also like men will ask me to step on their face what's so weird that's so weird like what she said like men will ask me to put my feet on their face

Brian Atlaswhat is the going price for a you said that a thigh Crush summer one thousand summer five thousand I never do it but would they fly to you

Ryan RhinoRyan are you down to get your head crushed right now would you do it would you do like a calf Crush I don't know those quads could really damage myself she's strong could

Lilyyou crush a watermelon fruit in the [ __ ] Studio I've never tried but everyone wants me like how much does your abductor or add doctor I I don't I don't okay just a little

Lilycloser on machines I don't train on equipment I train like almost just lifting yeah just lifting and like barbells and stuff is there anything crushable the

Brian Atlasbaby I'm not sure okay um Madison no I'll just go home and I'll do it and I'll send it to you I'll do it with the water every month you have to send me a a new fruit a new fruit Crush

Lilyvideo and then also an update on yourself or what yeah man five thousand dollars um I'll give you a comment

Lilyflip it on Craigslist um Madison what about you have I ever had a sugar daddies yeah or like offer for Sugar Daddy I I have had

Lilylike I still do to this day but have like a lot of men offered me to be there like sugar babies and stuff I haven't like accepted or actually I just like this like one guy in my past

Lilyhe would just pay me to talk to him just like text him on Instagram and like he would send me like a hundred dollars like every week it wasn't like anything that's pretty good but it wasn't

Lilyanything crazy yes okay just to just like text him nothing nothing like sexual or anything just like how was your day something

Lilylike that but I've had like very weird requests as well Ryan have you uh had any sugar mamas never at all

Brian Atlaswhere are the sugar mamas there's so many quality this is an inequality and I

Lilyit's unfair one of my friend when my guy friends has a sugar mama and she she sends him it's pretty a lot of stuff she bought him an 80 000 guitar

Lilya lot of Sugar Mama's hitting me up too like not even daddies we need to fight for that wage guy yeah men need to get more

Brian Atlaswe'll try do you like it if a girl Sims for you that'd be great like she offered to pay for dinner oh my God that would be have you had that never you've never had that never I know a girl can I get you linked or

Brian Atlaslet's do that okay paint she's paying for dinners and stuff yeah let's run that okay I'll see what I can do I'll put in a good word but uh oh yeah would any of you girls hear SIM for a

Brian Atlasdude yes yes you do your boyfriend aren't you more Trad though like you don't pay for dinners do you Maddie I do

Lilylike occasionally well you guys are probably no yeah well like it's like I don't know we're still in the kind of age where we like share and like pay for each other's things but like I like paying for dinners

Brian Atlashmm like the expensive dinners though what's the most to anyone here at the table has spent on the guy like you were simping for you were sipping on the dude or something that's

Lilya great question because I know it ain't that much that's like 20 bucks um here let's let's start with you then we'll go around the table here I spent a thousand dollars to bring him along on a

Brian Atlastrip that I won for a work trip but were you guys already in a relationship yes does that because I feel like this the simping stuff is more earlier on he refused to come with me and pay for it

Lilyeven though he could and I said I'll pay for you this is a long time ago he's not a good guy but he would not come unless I paid for him and I always paid for dinner every single time

Lilyrelationship Legends three and a half years I'm a [ __ ] Legend sweet Madison did have you what's the most you ever paid for dude

Brian AtlasI just bought Frankie or for Christmas I bought him like a 700 like Gucci chain that's probably the most does this does this count like gifting somebody who you've been in a long-term

Lilyrelationship with does this really I don't know if this how about like a situationship with something expensive should we say like within the first month I want to know how much they spent on someone they

Ryan Rhinowere dating and how much they spent on a guy they weren't dating to like make them like them like you know we've spent money on women to for trips or dinners or whatever I Wonder What A girl has spent not me oh

Jenny Dealnot you I'm not dating like actually wait do you not feel like emasculated to some extent if a woman's like regularly saying that she's covering it

Brian Atlasno I think it's gangster yeah it's like kind of like she's so wind to me that she's simple and it's it's refreshing because guys don't really

Jenny Dealget get that so is it like guys wanting to be a little spoon but Financial

Ryan Rhinothat's like a fun thing on like the city boys Instagram where you like move the bill for the girls like man you paying for that [ __ ] not me like yeah I would

Ryan Rhinonever feel emasculated by a girl paying for my stuff if anything keep paying for it I don't care but that's never gonna happen so yeah I've yet to manifest like that I'm gonna manifest it with my

Brian Atlascrystals uh so your question was like how much have you spent on a guy that you've been dating for a while and then also how much have you spent like should we say within the first early like or a guy that you a guy that you weren't

Ryan Rhinodating have you ever spent money on a guy that you like tried to get to like you or did you ever said they weren't in a relationship with yet okay let's do that not dating I like

LilyI didn't pay for him to get him to like me but I got him a nice gift it was probably like 500 when you're not dating yes how long had you been seeing him or like talking

Lilysecond date third date fourth day Lindsay we had been seeing each other for like three months surprise I don't think but it wasn't like we weren't like like you know like together together like he was still like

Lilywith other dudes I mean with other girls with other girls sorry

Lilyhe was seeing other chicks [Music] [Laughter] and you spent 600 500 Sim

LilyI'm sorry Madison I'm sorry I'm sorry what about you I don't know the price point but I'm cook I mean like make dinner consistently go to his place make dinner you can clean his car yes you

Lilycould you cleaned his car cleaned his car that's good um

Lilyno like privately lucky when he was on a trip okay I cleaned his car for him and we got back it was cool that's nice all right how much did that to cost you

Lily45 dollars to take it through the wash oh it wasn't a hand wash no I took her through the wash and then I detailed the entire car because I used to detail cars when I was in high school uh-huh I need a detail man car thank you for sharing

Riley Lewisthat Madison that was totally related okay what about you um so for the uh guy that I'm currently with it was his birthday last week so I just bought him um a nice watch

Riley Lewisum it was like pretty expensive but I don't think I've ever spent money on a guy that I haven't been with but I have offered like I have offered to pay for dinners but none of the guys that like I've ever gone out with have ever you

Jenny Dealknow um let me pay for the dinner got it what about you um my longer relationship I paid for most stuff but that was high school so it was like 20 30 at a time because I had a part-time job

Jenny Dealotherwise like in the 100 range for like a gift or dinner the simp aspect has been like I crocheted one of my ex's a pair of mittens and then we broke up like a

Jenny Dealcouple weeks later um making dinner cleaning a lot of cooking but financially no more than like like I got my extra seven just like a 70 little vintage watch

Tiffanyand then we broke up before you could get it what about you um one of my exes he didn't really have a job so we went on a trip together with our friends and I paid for everything

Tiffanyum and like we also got like you know like a we all got tickets there for trespassing and he couldn't even afford to pay it so I paid for his ticket on top of paying for my ticket as well like

Tiffanythroughout the relationship I feel like I paid for a lot of things and yeah my parents even sold him my old car for cheap too uh yeah and he left me with trauma but

Tiffanyum the one guy that I simped for um he also didn't have a job so I think there's a pattern going on here um so he couldn't use uh his car that he shared with his brother for one night to

Tiffanycome stay with me so I ended up paying an Uber that was like 150 each way for him to come stay with me for a couple days on top of that pay for his food okay all right

Bethanywhat about you um so it's how much we've spent on someone we weren't dating and so when we were yeah okay weren't dating I was talking to this guy for maybe like two months and for Valentine's Day we

Bethanygot each other a gift I probably spent like 200 or something and then my ex I got us like a hotel for a couple days at like the w we were staying at

Brian Atlasthat was probably like a little bit under a thousand a little bit hundred thousand okay has anybody here I think some of you may have already touched on this and has anybody here been flown out and we can

Brian Atlasjust do show hands been flown out somewhere or here let's do been flown out somewhere by guy he paid for it show of hands Chopin uh offered to be flown out

Jenny Dealwithout come on a little higher there we go nothing nothing no bzees I don't I keep my life very private so I don't think like

Brian Atlasmen even think to offer those things to me I'm also quick to just not talk to you got it we have a pre-show submission here from our girl Riley oh no did I say

Riley Lewisyour name right yes who said that men are better than women yeah I think that in a lot of ways are better than women and I feel like

Riley Lewiswow you're such a misogynist Riley I mean wow I just like I I was really thinking about it because like you know obviously my boyfriend is in a wheelchair right now because like I don't know I feel like a very typical job for women is to like be a nurse but

Riley LewisI realize like I feel like I'd rather have a man as a nurse because I sure as hell like can't lift his big ass up like out of his like wheelchair like it's really a struggle okay um and like also I was like thinking

Riley Lewislike oh like women are better mothers you know but then I was looking at some statistics and single fathers actually have a better turnout rate with their

Riley Lewischildren than single mothers do um 80 of the children that are raised by single mothers actually end up in jail or with some type of addiction or something like that

Riley Lewisum and I mean I just feel like it's you know like evolutionary like I feel like it's just like men are stronger and they should just like you know take on that role in general

Bethanyokay hot take anybody disagree with her um I kind of agree as well I feel like well the part where you're talking about how single dads kind of have a better turnout I do feel

Lilylike they're kind of more protective I think which could help that but I yeah I agree I don't think I agree or disagree I think men and women have their own strengths in our amazing in their own ways and men are

Lilycapable of doing so many different things than women are capable of doing which is why they're different but so I agree with you I think men are amazing when they do what they're supposed to do and I think women are amazing when they

Brian Atlasdo what they're supposed to do because women are not men and men are not women I agree with that all right we have Bender the offender here ladies do you think that more women

Brian Atlasare corrupted by money and power today than 20 years ago yes

Lilysure yeah I think the math checks out there yes I think that women are trying to compete in a very masculine world I mean that's the whole thing is I break the

Lilypatriarchy women want to have equality and we do have equality but now women are taking steps away from being what really make women women which is

Lilynurturing women are better at nurturing than men are and there's some things like what I was saying women are supposed to do things that men are not supposed to Sure here let's we'll start with you we'll go around the table get

Brian Atlaseveryone's answer on this so do you think that more women are corrupted by money and power today than 20 years ago um can you explain the question I don't really get it

Brian Atlasit's really vague I'd say like what do you mean corrupted like are they talking about can I give an example they're like are corrupted by money and power I

Brian Atlashonestly don't know versus women 20 20 years ago could this be related to like social media or only fans corrupted by money yeah I don't know I

Brian Atlasdon't know if Human Nature has changed now that's why I said 2003 it's not that long woman well there's a lot there's a lot of difference between 2003 and 2023 in terms I mean we have everything

Brian Atlassocial media um I think I think across all fronts I think both men and women I'm not a lady so I'm sorry Bender that I'm answering this I think we're much

Brian Atlasmore superficial than we were 20 years ago we're less socially connected even though we have like social media and all this stuff

Brian Atlaswe're much more socially isolated I do think there's certainly more vanity and much people are definitely much more superficial go ahead Maddie I was just

Lilygonna say I kind of get the question I think that women are more corrupted by money and power than 20 years ago because now I think it's like women don't appreciate money as much because it's so

Brian Atlaseasy for them to get nowadays if that was like the question I was that was my maybe if it's a little hard for you to does anyone want to weigh in on this or

Riley Lewisyou have having some difficulty parsing exactly what the question is um I mean I feel like men might see women as more corrupted by money and power nowadays than 20 years ago because you know 20

Riley Lewisyears ago there wasn't an option to like do only fans and I'm not like [ __ ] on the I do only fans um but it's like you can just put your money I mean your body out there for money and power technically because I

Riley Lewisfeel like you do gain a following when you do have only fans because you are putting your body out there and you do gain people who want to follow you and just you know obviously that wasn't an option before so I think you know maybe

Riley Lewismen would see women as more corrupted by you know money and power now because of social media only fans and the ability to just easily put your body online like that

LilyI also feel like I can't answer this question because um I wasn't even born 20 years ago we weren't even born was it 28 2005. yeah yeah you're born 2005. yeah wow holy

TTS Reader[ __ ] two thousand two two thousand okay yeah it's 2004. okay oh hey Bender thank you bend to the offender donated 99 when

Brian AtlasI say corrupted I mean women who openly disregard men in general mean women corrupted I mean women who openly disregard men in general

Brian Atlasoh so do you mean like their women are less focused on relationships and more focused on building a career is that kind of what you mean Bender the

Brian Atlasoffender that is Bender the offender is at hello Bender yes my bad yeah we're eyeballing oh he says

Brian Atlasyes okay well I can't maybe I can sort of transform this question a little bit do you think that men care about a woman's money

Brian Atlaslike do you think it makes a woman more attractive if she's like a boss babe and like is doing really well financially do you think generally speaking like men find that do you think it makes a

Brian Atlasman think oh sorry I got Tongue Tied there do you think it's more attractive to men uh

Lilyare men more why am I a woman that sorry guys it's late makes a lot of money is a boss [ __ ] or one

Bethanythat doesn't and wants to do that like do they prefer someone who has money over so many do you think a woman's success makes her more attractive to a man I mean I would assume yeah like I think it

Lilydepends on the man yeah and what they're looking for in a woman but I think for sure when a woman can obviously take care of herself and the people around

Riley Lewisher it's attractive to a high value man I like disagree because um there is a statistic that you know the biggest the biggest predictor of divorce is if

Riley Lewisthe woman makes more money than the man so I feel like it can almost intimidate the man um and I don't know when a woman is making a lot of money and has that power they don't need to rely on a man not

Lilythat a woman should rely on a man but I don't know I I feel like I agree with you I agree with you when I when you say success I think it I I 100 agree with

Lilyyou but I think when I view success I mean like it's not about money yeah it's not about money it means like she's driven and she's going after the dreams and the goals that she has whether it be taking care of a family whether it be

Lilybeing a journalist or anything whatever they want to be and it depends on what the man is wanting in success for a woman

Bethanyagreed yeah I feel like people are just drawn to like motivated people and if you're successful obviously you're like motivated and you care about stuff

Jenny Dealnot to be Freudian but what I've noticed is people men and women tend to be very strongly influenced by what their parental Figures were like and they

Jenny Dealeither go for something similar or they go for the opposite and I would guess I haven't looked at this Statistics I've taken like psycho gender and whatnot but

Jenny Dealif there are more men who have successful woman successful mothers these days due to like woman being able to have more jobs than they would be raised wanting a woman who

Jenny Dealis successful and driven so like in my experience I'm very driven and whatnot the men I've dated also have very successful mothers but if the generation prior didn't grow up with that then they

Brian Atlasmaybe wouldn't be looking for it I mean I suppose there's something to be said for parental role models but I'm kind of more looking at it from perhaps

Brian Atlasa more innate evolutionary biological level um Ryan do you have any thoughts on this I mean from like you're a successful guy right

Ryan RhinoI would say so does do you care about what a woman makes not at all um I think that's a big misconception

Ryan Rhinothat most girls don't understand about guys preferences which is a guy doesn't care at all how much money you make or even if you're driven necessarily as

Ryan Rhinolong as you upkeep and you're a normal healthy functioning adult uh you know a guy will marry the Wendy's worker like there was this girl at this bagel shop I

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