Is Margot Robbie MID?! 2 GIRLS RAGEQUIT! | Dating Talk #85

Date: 2023-07-19

Duration: 5h 34m

Guests

Brian Atlas

TTiffany (DT85)>

BBethany (DT85)>

MMadison (DT94)>

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00TTS Reader(audience)

SPEAKER_01TTS Reader(audience)

SPEAKER_02Riley Lewis(guest)

SPEAKER_03Bethany(guest)

SPEAKER_05Tiffany(guest)

SPEAKER_06Lily(guest)

SPEAKER_08Ryan Rhino(guest)

SPEAKER_09Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_10Madison(guest)

SPEAKER_11Jenny Deal(guest)

SPEAKER_12Eve Marlowe(guest)

SPEAKER_14Adira Lore(guest)

Key Moments

IntroGuest introductions — Adira Lore through Madison in order at the table

“"hi my name is adira lore I am 28 years old I'm from LA and I do porn... hi my name is Eve Marlowe I am 31 years old... I'm Tiffany I'm 24... I'm Bethany I'm 18... I'm Jenny or dating coach deals... I'm Riley Lewis I'm 20... I'm Lily I'm 23 from Nashville... my name is Ryan I am 25... my name is Madison I'm 18"”

QuoteRiley Lewis introduces herself as a "virtual stripper" and explains it means OnlyFans

“"I'm Riley Lewis I'm 20 years old I'm from Hollywood and I am a virtual stripper... um I do only fans"”

RelationshipRiley reveals her one-sided open relationship and boyfriend's sudden wheelchair situation

“"I'm in a fully committed um one-sided open relationship... I'm not allowed to get with other people but um he's allowed to... he's been in a wheelchair because he's like kind of paralyzed right now"”

QuoteAdira rates herself 10/10 and argues everyone should call themselves a 10

“"I'm gonna fucking ride hard for myself and I'm gonna say I'm a 10 out of 10 and I don't care who the fuck has to say anything"”

QuoteLily reveals she slid into recurring Whatever guest Chase's DMs; he did not reply and she deleted the message

“"I did slip into his jams but I don't... I remember opening the DM I don't know... I think I deleted it... I got a little embarrassed"”

QuoteRiley reveals her boyfriend is currently in a wheelchair from acute autoimmune disorder

“"ever since my birthday which was about like a week and a half ago he's been in a wheelchair because he's like kind of paralyzed right now... it happened to him once before like three years ago"”

ControversyAdira Lore and Eve Marlowe ragequit the show mid-episode during self-rating/Belladonna debate

“"okay well that's my ride so" [Eve follows Adira out] ... "sorry guys we had two girls walk off the show"”

QuoteRiley tells story of ex-boyfriend who came out as gay after a skiing head injury; cheated with his male best friend

“"he went on this trip with his friends it was like a boys trip... he falls off the roof and he hits his head and I swear to you that that was when he turned gay... at some point in our relationship he cheated on me with a guy... it was his best friend"”

Key MomentJenny "Deal" demonstrates live Hinge coaching — role-plays messaging strategy with Brian

“"I just saw this coffee shop open up have you ever been it's called La La Land... are you free this weekend... I'm free on Sunday... all right that's perfect you want to meet at that coffee shop at three"”

ControversyMadison describes her reaction to catching a partner cheating — would grab the other woman by the hair

“"I would probably grab her hair pull that shit out drag her out of the apartment and then scream at him and then dip"”

QuoteTiffany reveals ex had a foot/shoe fetish and paid her $300/week to send heel-walking videos

“"it was a long distance relationship after I left Virginia so I would send him videos of me walking in heels and he would pay me for that... he would pay me like 300 a week"”

QuoteBrian plays Riley's TikToks showing near-identical content to his own — exposes plagiarism on air

“"would you be okay with your long-term monogamous partner going to a bar club party... [plays Brian's version] ...that sounds really familiar"”

QuoteRiley reveals her breast implants cost $15,000, paid by her parents

“"they weren't as bad as I thought they'd be actually... my parents actually paid for it... yeah 15 [thousand]"”

TopicBrian proposes "Thursdays with Riley" show as Riley's penance for plagiarizing his content

“"you are gonna host the Thursday show... every single week it's gonna be a dating talk but you're gonna host it... it will be called Thursdays with Riley"”

Topics Discussed

Introductions & Show Announcements

Brian introduces show; co-host Kiki mentioned as shy. Guests introduce in order: Adira Lore (28, LA, adult performer), Eve Marlowe (31, Las Vegas, matchmaker), Tiffany (24, LA, content creator/OnlyFans), Bethany (18, OC, model), Jenny "Deal" (22, Boston, dating coach), Riley Lewis (20, Hollywood, virtual stripper/OnlyFans), Lily (23, Nashville, lifestyle coach), Ryan "Rhino" (25, YouTuber), Madison (18, San Diego, student/bar host/co-host).

Relationship Status Round

Adira: newly in a relationship (ready to settle down), prior toxic relationships. Eve: recently single, out of 3-month relationship, single 5 years prior (married age 17-20). Tiffany: pretty single (~5 months since 3-year relationship). Bethany: single ~4 months, longest relationship 1 year. Jenny: single 1-2 months, happily dating around, texting Swiss musician "Lucas." Riley: one-sided open relationship (her boyfriend can see others, she cannot). Lily: single. Ryan: single. Madison: in relationship with Frankie.

Riley's Boyfriend in a Wheelchair / Open Relationship

Riley reveals her boyfriend (content creator) suddenly developed an autoimmune disorder a week and a half prior and is now in a wheelchair — second occurrence (first ~3 years prior, also resolved). She describes their one-sided open relationship established from the beginning of dating. Boyfriend flew her and another influencer to an island on their second date. Brian asks about intimacy logistics given the wheelchair situation.

Margot Robbie Mid Debate

Brian presents viral claim that Margot Robbie is "mid." Panel and chat debate whether she is overrated. Adira argues ratings are meaningless; Eve notes celebrities are compared against other celebrities not everyday people. Discussion of double standard: calling a female celebrity mid causes outrage; calling a male celebrity mid (Ryan Gosling, Timothy Chalamet, Beyonce, Michael B Jordan) gets no reaction. Ryan Rhino says female attractiveness standards are artificially inflated by makeup/surgery/professional photography.

Self-Rating Round

Brian asks all guests to rate their appearance on a scale of 1-10. Adira: 10 (argues everyone should say 10, makeup makes her look worse). Eve: 9. Bethany: ~7-7.5 (depends on makeup). Jenny "Deal": 5 in California, 7-8 in Boston depending on hair. Riley: 7-8 (upgraded herself after breast augmentation 2 months prior). Lily: 8-9. Ryan "Rhino": 6.8. Madison: 6.5 without makeup, 8 with full makeup. Brian: 6 without makeup, 7 with. Adira escalates into philosophical argument against the concept of self-rating, becoming increasingly agitated.

Two Guests Ragequit

Adira Lore and Eve Marlowe leave the show mid-episode (~1:16 mark) during the Belladonna/self-rating debate. Adira becomes upset when the conversation turns to Belladonna (famous porn star); she takes it as an affront. Eve says "that's my ride so" and follows. Brian and remaining guests react: the walkout was over a mild conversation, blue-haired girl (Eve) had originally reached out to request to be on the show. Show continues with 7 remaining panelists; seating arrangement is adjusted.

Ex Turned Gay / Toxic Relationship Stories

Riley tells story of her 3-year ex-boyfriend (ages 16-19) who cheated on her with his male best friend ~6 months before their breakup. Riley's theory: he fell off a roof on a ski trip and hit his head, which she believes caused the change. Signs she missed: wanted her to wear a short brown wig in bed, low sex drive in final months, spent more time with his best friend. Brian discusses phenomenon of women being attracted to dangerous/incarcerated men. Bethany tells story of fight with best friend who cheated with her ex.

Dating App Coaching / Hinge Role Play

Jenny "Deal" demonstrates her Hinge coaching methodology. Tips: X out standouts tab for more profile visibility, write specific prompts, send messages worth responding to (not "hey"). Brian and Jenny role-play a Hinge messaging scenario (Brian as girl, Jenny as guy). Discussion of getting a date quickly vs extended digital pen-pal stage. Tiffany plays gamer girl character. Role play proceeds through first message to date confirmation. Panel debates how many texts are needed before asking for a date.

Cheating Response / Would You Fight?

Brian poses scenario: you come home to find your partner cheating mid-act. Panel responses: Madison would grab the other woman by the hair and drag her out. Riley would leave in silence and block. Bethany would go "ape shit" and attack both. Tiffany would cause a scene then leave. Jenny would pack and leave silently. Lily would walk out without violence. Ryan would walk out smoothly. Discussion of whether the severity changes if the third party is a close friend (unanimous: yes, double betrayal). Brian argues rational response is to leave the partner, not fight the stranger.

Dating Dynamics: Who Initiates / Men vs Women

Brian asks what percentage of first dates are initiated by men — consensus ~99%. Discussion of whether men and women have equal dating options; classic adage "women sleep with who they want, men sleep with who they can." Madison challenges Brian's use of the saying. Discussion of boss-babe success as attractive to men (Ryan argues men do not care about a woman's income). Riley argues biggest predictor of divorce is woman earning more than man. Jenny discusses how men's attraction patterns relate to their mother figures.

Sugar Daddies / Financial Simping

Tiffany reveals she had a long-distance ex who had a shoe fetish and paid her $300/week to send videos of herself walking in heels; $1,000 at a time occasionally. Riley has online sugar daddies via OnlyFans only (no in-person meetups). Lily receives $100/week from a man just to text him (non-sexual). Madison paid $500 for a gift to a guy she was seeing for 3 months who was also seeing other women. Bethany had informal sugar daddy arrangements met at clubs (received ~$2,400 cash + ~$5,000 total from one man including a Vegas trip and beach house weekend). Discussion of AI girlfriends and pay pigs.

Nice Guys vs. Toxic Behavior / Attraction Patterns

Discussion of whether women are attracted to bad behavior or confident behavior. Brandon's saying: "if you treat her like dirt she'll stick to you like mud." Ryan describes his own trajectory from nice guy to less attentive and how his dating results improved. Jenny argues it is about selecting for the right type of woman. Madison observes younger women often prefer a bit of edginess while mature women prefer stability. Brian discusses women who write letters to incarcerated men; evolutionary attraction to men capable of violence as protection signal. Discussion of makeup-sex after arguments.

Riley Plagiarism Gag / "Thursdays with Riley"

Brian plays several TikTok clips of Riley Lewis using near-identical language to Brian's own YouTube/podcast content — same "would you be okay with your monogamous partner being pursued at a bar" premise, same "everything around you was built by men" argument, same "big dick energy" gender double standard bit. Riley admits to "plagiarizing" Brian's content, claims she started TikTok recently and didn't realize it was frowned upon. Brian proposes "Thursdays with Riley" — a weekly dating talk show hosted by Riley from the Whatever studio, with Brian as background presence.

Transcript

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Riley Lewiswhat other signs did he give you that like made you would think that he was a little bit um I mean a lot of his friends kind of like

Riley Lewisgestured at the fact that like maybe he was and I really should have listened but I was in love and you know how first love is like how old were you I was I

Riley Lewiswas I we started dating when I was 16 and then we broke up when I was 19. when did he come out after you like like very he's

Riley Lewisnot even like oh yeah but I found out that like at some point in our relationship he cheated on me with a guy yeah wow

Riley Lewisum so and it was his best friend too which was another really great thing yeah and I was wondering why he started to hang out with his best friend more than he would be hanging out with me and now it all makes sense

Riley Lewiswow and now you're with the pirate now I'm with the pirate right right yeah anyways that's the story of how my ex turned gay did he ever try to like

Riley Lewislike you know what I mean did you ever catch him sucking dick um no and if I did I would have ran away

Riley Lewismuch faster than I did so he was confirmed gay yeah so like yeah um I got a call one day from one of his friends

Riley Lewisum but obviously he wasn't really his friend if he's calling me and telling me this basically just that you know he like sucked his friend's dick

Riley Lewisum about six months prior to the breakup he's a homie wait how long were you with him I was with him for three years holy [ __ ] yeah did he give you like Fruity Vibes before you started dating or like

Riley Lewisno I promise you wasn't always gay I promise he was not always yeah so this is my theory okay so he went on

Riley Lewisuh yeah true he could be by sexuality is fluid yeah that's very true um so he went on this trip with his friends it was like a boys trip right for the boys um

Riley LewisI hope not um but yeah he went on a trip and it was like a skiing trip right to like the boys um

TTS Readerlay Grossman donated 100 I will rain down an ungodly [ __ ] Firestorm upon you you're gonna have to call the [ __ ] United Nations and get a [ __ ]

TTS Readerbinding resolution to keep me thank you destroying you I am talking scorched Turf [ __ ] I will Massacre you thank you very much thank you that's from a movie the Tropic Thunder okay go

Riley Lewisahead yeah anyways um they went on a boys trip skiing they skied on top of this like roof because they thought it would be fun he's like whatever he falls off the roof and he hits his head and I

Riley Lewisswear to you that that was when he turned gay I promise I promise because that's when all of the signs started happening like I swear one time I was playing football

Brian Atlasand I like for like a fortnight I was like kind of getting like half-mast when I like was around like other dudes you know so yeah

Lilythere's like three Vibes before because I feel like a gay people was like they gay men they like try to date women to kind of mask the fact that they're yeah is that called a beard yeah yeah

Brian Atlasyeah I just wondering would any of you be a beard for like a really hot gay dude like he's super hot because you know how there's like some super hot like pretending yeah

Brian Atlasfor like a really hot I would do it as a joke I would do it I feel like it'd be like a fun experience okay he's like a politician right yeah so he's got he's got a beard right is

Jenny Dealthe beard the chick is the chick the Chicken yeah you were an accidental beard yeah but you have to have kids with them oh

Tiffany[ __ ] no so it's like you know oh like long like two kids yeah long term well do I know that I am a beard the entire time yes secret beard all right because you have to be okay

Tiffanywith them like [ __ ] other dudes you know yeah I would not want to be wait but like if he's gay why would he want to like put two babies in me to hide it

Brian Atlasto have children he wants kids but he like he as a matter of Duty it's like a duty [ __ ] you know it's not like a pleasure

Tiffanyit's not like for pleasure it's more like for procreation for the bloodline I feel like if I had to have kids with him no no go okay are we getting anything like out of it I mean he's gonna be like the United States

Ryan Rhinoambition you know yeah would you do that for a girl meaning like for a lesbian meaning She's a Lesbian but she doesn't want

Jenny DealAin't No Way nothing really you wouldn't be a fake boyfriend for a lesbian so people like your celebrity crush yeah what if she was a politician yeah lesbian where she's a bit masculine no

Ryan Rhinoshe wouldn't get away just full-on like uh absolutely not absolutely what if she was like really hot like there's some lesbians lesbian

Ryan Rhinoyeah if she was feminine even then you know a girl with pink hair right here you know it's never been my cup of tea a girl that's in the girls I've never been

Ryan Rhinowith that I'm oh yeah you're a man I'm exclusively with straight women I feel like a lot of like just like a

Lilylittle pattern that I've noticed so like guys kind of are into like buys yes yeah like girls making it the bisexual husband Vibe I'm personally not two

Brian Atlasgirls kissing doesn't do anything yeah same it's like yeah right that's so fast you hit the [ __ ] out of my handsome wait why is that bad no it was just funny how

Lilyfast you said like he didn't even finish a sentence yeah same time it's not like well I don't think it's hot for example like seeing a chick kissing another dude either yeah that's

Brian Atlasthat's probably I'd rather see you two girls kiss I guess but like seeing two chicks kiss isn't I'm like I feel like a lot of guys are into that [ __ ] I'm like I don't it doesn't do anything for me you know same some guys think it's hot

Brian Atlasbut I'm like so what about like a threesome you wouldn't like I do I would here's the thing though when it comes to threesomes I'd rather only disappoint one woman at the time

Lilyyou know so like I would do it I'm super down but it's like I feel like you know I would do it I would do it I would do a threesome but that's like the thing it's going to be two girls and they're going to kind of yeah like like are you not

Brian Atlasgonna like what if it was another guy and a girl nope nope nope I can't do it cannot but two girls I'd be okay with two girls I'd be

Brian Atlasokay with two girls like possibly like I don't have like a burning desire to do like if it happens like if it just you'd allow it to present it I suppose I

Brian Atlaswould okay fine we I guess we can have a threesome but it's not like I've never really pushed for it super heavy with like any any I would do it it's not a fantasy

Ryan Rhinothough it doesn't I don't know I want to hear your answer to that well I think the logistics of that I would agree with you where it's not something that I'm man I gotta get a threesome one

Ryan Rhinoof these days like again I think there's a lot of pressure where damn two of y'all like again logistically speaking all right if I'm doing something with one of them and

Ryan Rhinowhat's the other one doing and and you know it's complicated there's some Logistics you know I actually prefer to one-on-one so yeah now again if it happened if it fell on my lap let's both

TiffanyI wanna both do it at the same time like we can work that out but yeah yeah I got offered a threesome recently interesting what would you say I'm more of like a one-person kind of thing it was two guys oh they were trying to I will Tower you

Tiffanyyeah they were they asked me if I've ever been to Paris no not I just I don't know I'm just kind of like a one person would you be like open

Tiffanyto it I I don't know that's hard to say like maybe I guess it feels like really plastered get me drunk enough maybe yeah but like I don't what yeah but like I

Tiffanydon't I don't think so I don't really see it in the future I've had like with my ex I've had couples ask us to like do a little like Switcheroo and Swinging okay that's even worse

Brian AtlasI could never I can wait just show of hands who has anybody here had a threesome what what anybody nobody I've been close but anybody close

Bethanyyeah it was like a two and a half some time no no like like we were like on the way to a threesome and it just didn't happen you were on the way yeah

Brian Atlasit was me and my friend and then this other guy but we just it just didn't happen you like your girlfriend yeah yeah yeah yeah oh you and your girl were one was that you're a friend seeing the dude yeah so they were talking like

Bethanypretty seriously and then they started like joking about having a threesome with me and then they're like serious about it and then but it just never happened okay

Brian Atlasthey probably weren't initially joking but they were joking as a setup to kind of uh get the temperature and they're like oh maybe she's kind of all right let's [ __ ] yeah I mean I think I'd maybe be down but like so wait what

Bethanyhappened it didn't I don't know it just no it just didn't happen like I forgot like why it didn't happen but you were on the way well I was with her and we were like she was like texting him I don't know something just didn't work

Brian Atlasout oh he fumbled the threesome he fumbled and he's cute oh so you were down I was yeah I was down I just feel like it'd be like kind of awkward rip I just don't know how that works gonna say that's the thing like I could

Lilynot be your other friend in that situation like if I ever saw I also I I don't think I could have it threesome with two guys you'd slap Frankie I would

Brian Atlaspunch him oh wait well I wouldn't I would say Madison is a domestic I'm an abuser wow okay you heard it here first exclusively on the whatever podcast would you like beat the beat the [ __ ] out of him if I saw him like would you

Lilytake off your belt and just start okay first of all I wouldn't let another woman walk into the bedroom with us let alone like if I were to like say like why walk it I walked in on something and he was like you want to join

Lilyyeah I would beat the [ __ ] out yeah yeah wait wait okay question so you let's here's the scenario you're at work Frankie's at home

Brian Atlaschilling you guys are living together whatever are you guys currently living together you're currently living together you come home early for whatever reason he wasn't expecting you for another two hours and maybe I'll open that up to the rest

Brian Atlasof the panel here too you open the door to your house and you hear something like some [ __ ] weird you're hearing some noises I'm like you hear like a horse

Brian AtlasOh no you're hearing some weird [ __ ] right people make that noise during sex right yeah yeah pretty common pretty common uh you you go the bedroom and you just

Brian AtlasI kind of I feel like I'm I was gonna say like you see him like getting okay you see him sleeping with another chick what what do you do you start whooping

Lilyon the chick do you start whipping on your boyfriend what do you I okay my honest response I would probably just I'd probably slap the chick first I would go for the chicken you know

Tiffanyand then I wouldn't I I actually wouldn't hurt him but I'd scream at him and then get the [ __ ] out would you break up absolutely wait but what breaker would you feel bad if the chick didn't know that you guys were dating

Jenny Dealafter you smacked the shadow oh [ __ ] girlfriend I'm a really good if you like told her that he's single and he lives there and she's like I still don't

Lilyreally care I don't think okay I would still go for her you'd you'd slap her because that's once or would you [ __ ] start brawling okay what I would do I'd probably grab her hair pull that [ __ ]

Lilyout drag her out of the apartment and then scream at him and then dip nice that's probably exactly what it is can you play the cap sound effect

Bethanywhat do you think I would do what do you think I would do it I've done that exactly okay so I'm sorry so it's it can it all connects so the girl that I was gonna

Bethanyhave to scoot your microphone this way just a time yeah perfect the girl I was gonna have a threesome with she's like one of my best friends and um I was dating this was after we're

Bethanygonna have the threesome but I was dating the guy that was dating for like a year and she was like one of my best friends and then he ended up cheating on me with her sorry hold on Mike Davis donated 100 you

TTS Readeryou where did you pick up this Chance the Rapper wannabe hoodlum force or I've seen him on Venice Beach trying to finesse for a few bucks do you have a response to Mike Davis

Ryan RhinoMike Davis I haven't been to Venice in like four years so I guess you got the wrong guy can we pull up the photo of Mike Davis because this guy's a real G

Brian Atlascan we pull up the photo all right let me know let me know when you get it

TTS Readerokay guys I'm new here and loving the show I just want to say I would three some with the girl in the short black top and the green she does it I don't know if she heard that but Riley did you

Bethanyhear it huh he said he'd have a threesome with you oh and you with the girl in the short black top and the green shirt I'd have a threesome with her

Brian Atlas[Music] okay uh let's blow Mike Davis really quick hello oh he's a sexy man this is Mike Davis is that really him that's actually that's actually literally him

Brian Atlashe's an uh he owns like 20 million so excuse me 223 Burger King no chains yeah he's wealthy cool Beyond imagination so if and he's on the East Coast those are

Brian Atlasactually um if any of you girls uh show of hands any of you girls would he like he's kind of a he's a bit of a player um Mike he definitely like hits on pretty much all the girls that come on

Brian Atlasthe show any of you guys down like I'm kind of his um any of you guys down to like he'll fly you out to the east coast actually get you free Burger King Burger

Brian Atlasnot like I'm good okay sorry he seems like a friendly guy I don't know why he came at me but all good yeah he rose Heroes for everybody yeah he's a good

Brian Atlasguy I just had Burger King the other day oh yeah fly me out boom done uh so we'll go around the table so you walk in you see your boyfriend sleeping with another woman let's say you've been together for

Lilya year what do you do I think honestly I would just walk out

Lilyit's respectable she got the muscles to beat a [ __ ] yeah honestly no fight because it's not her fault and he's not acting like a man so I'm not

Brian Atlasgonna beat the crap out of a girl that is the respectable adult response to that what about you Riley um I feel like depending on what hold on let me give you the context okay it's your boyfriend right you're you're at work

Brian Atlasyour boyfriend's in the house whatever and he's you walk in and he's like in the wheelchair and two [ __ ] are just like on him two and he's and no hold on Technically she's

Brian Atlascool with that actually one of the chicks is also in the wheelchair so it's like wheelchair on wheelchair action what do you do I mean I don't even know and the other

Riley Lewischick has um she's an amputee yeah okay well I mean honestly that sounds like kind of interesting I gotta

Riley Lewissay like I'd probably join well her boyfriend's open so yeah so that graduation to her is like it would be like yeah I mean oh I would be surprised that there was more people in wheelchairs because like I don't know

Lilythat's a little that's a little surprising but yeah wait a question do you and your boyfriend like do stuff together with other people or is it just him well she said she's never done the threesome yeah I've never done oh okay okay we haven't

Riley Lewiswe haven't yet um I mean I would definitely be open to it like depending on who the girl was yeah okay what would you do

Brian Atlasjust went to the bathroom the cheating thing like if your boyfriend you you walk in you see your boyfriend of a year cheating on you um when you do they like heard me open the door so saw

Brian Atlasme probably because like he's mid-thrust mid thrust you open the door in the bedroom mid thrust realistically I'd probably leave in silence pack my [ __ ] and block

Jenny Dealmaybe send a text and be like what the [ __ ] I saw you bye block and then like Journal cry do all that [ __ ] in private

Bethanyokay what about you um I'd go ape [ __ ] personally like attack both

Bethanyum about how I got cheated on Yo yes please please oh yeah so she my ex cheated on me with like one of my best friends and but I didn't like walking on it or anything but the next time I saw

Lilyher um we got in a fight that's all like a physical fight yeah yeah I hate even just like thinking about and like imagining this [ __ ] in my head it's

Bethanydifferent if you're actually in a relationship yeah yeah well you got into the fight yeah yeah yeah like physical no no I didn't walk in but um at a party for some reason she flipped me off and

Bethanyso like I went up and I like honestly like blacked out like I was so mad but I won I think you won you think yeah

Bethanywhat so how did the fight go down um I was not there believe it or not so um she flipped me off from like across the party and so I went up to her and I was like

Bethanyum like what was that for and then she starts like cuss me out and so like um I like threw her head into the like wall behind her and then like I think I had her by

Bethanylike the hair like the whole time and I was just hitting her oh [ __ ] yeah good times so fun good time so you had the hair yeah the hair was just [ __ ] the hair was the main thing I was doing like

TiffanyI think I literally like had in front of me like just yeah I really don't remember okay what about you so I think like past me would have been very violent but uh

Tiffanynow I think I would like definitely cause a scene you know like cry be like what the [ __ ] are you doing I wouldn't like beat the [ __ ] out of them but I would definitely leave right because when I found out that my ex cheated on

Tiffanyme my uh recent one from five months ago I still wanted like my friends to be friends with him you know what I mean I didn't want like any bad blood and I always like wish the best for him because at that at one point I did love

Tiffanyhim and I I still wish the best for him even though like kind of [ __ ] me over a little bit but uh yeah I'm the I'm also like kind of like a private person when it comes to

Tiffanymy relationship so like I don't really like telling everyone like hey like he cheated on me like don't talk to him blah blah blah blah respect so

LilyMadison's the only one that would beat the [ __ ] out of the chick okay I didn't say like beat the [ __ ] I said I would maybe like grab her hair like drag her out the apartment but that's like I also do and it's hard to say what I would

Brian Atlasactually do in that situation because I'm not in that situation sure what about uh Ryan what would you do you go back to your house you see your girl can you know getting Jason loved Jason

Ryan Rhinoloved exactly I would yeah I would be a very smooth oh and then walk out and it's done imagine it's Mike Davis though oh my God

Ryan RhinoMike Davis with the Burger King hat on uh no I think I would immediately walk out because what does having some sort of like reaction what's that gonna do like

Ryan Rhinoif I punch anyone or do anything so what that's not going to help the situation in any way and I'm not a very vengeful person I'm like a very pragmatic realistic person so it's like all right

Brian AtlasI guess we're done now so have a blessed one I'll let y'all what if it was a friend so not a stranger but like a friend and maybe the girl I don't know if that here we'll just man that would be crazy we

Brian Atlaswon't stick on this too long but show of hands like does it change anything if it was like one of your close female friends sleeping with then would things maybe get changes like completely yeah it

Tiffanyruins two relationships it's like a double uh what's it called whammy double homicide

Brian Atlasdouble betrayal double betrayal yeah um but I if it was like some random dude like who he didn't he didn't know

Brian AtlasI don't like bro she probably lied to him or whatever but uh I think I agree with you like it's like the biggest thing you can do is probably just [ __ ] okay we're done

Brian Atlassee ya yeah never talk to them again it's over uh but uh one thing I always did find interesting though like let's say you were to attack somebody like why would you attack like assuming

Brian Atlasthey didn't know like wouldn't you have more more beef with uh your partner than the person that they're cheating on with like because you you'll see like a dude might like whoop the [ __ ] out of the

Brian Atlas[ __ ] guy who she's cheating on with or or the reverse you know so I guess like your first like initial reaction is though like is like English yeah it's just like anger like

Lilyshe knows like I don't know maybe that's not it all the time but that's also why it changes like if they're your friend or something because they do know which is why like I would act up a little more

TTS Readeranger Jason loved donated one hundred dollars wait shut up yeah is that actually him men who don't cheat are liars or just don't have the option to cheat and why would you want to be with

Brian Atlasa man who doesn't have options shut up y'all hear me out man hey don't cheat cheat are liars or just don't have the option is this actually Jason love confirm or deny I think idea did I I was gonna DM him and invite him on the show

Brian AtlasI think we might have Adam 22 on also anyways uh why would you want to be with a man who doesn't have options I I disagree that all men are cheaters

Brian Atlasyeah yeah I disagree I disagree well Jason love oh he said that so yeah that's definitely not true what was his last sentence um why would why wouldn't you want to be

Bethanywith a guy who doesn't have options well that makes sense for me because like I kind of like when girls like hit on the guy I'm with because it kind of like makes me feel better you like it yeah yeah

Riley LewisI mean I feel like that's kind of like My Philosophy with this all it's like my boyfriend when he's not in a wheelchair has many many options and for me it's

Riley Lewislike why would you want to be with a man who doesn't have options you know it's kind of like you want like a high value man you want a man that girls are attracted to and obviously if girls are attracted to that man that man has value

Riley Lewisand they can provide that thing to you and at the end of the day it's like it's not where a man goes it's where he like comes home to in my opinion I feel like it's a little inevitable to

Lilysay like that though like I feel like everyone has options in a way everyone meaning like everyone everyone no not everyone else you're

Lilygonna [ __ ] on me for that but like usually people in relationships they have a couple options you know yeah you know what I'm saying I just feel like women tend to have more options

Lilythan men I mean like not saying like men have more options than women do but I'm just saying like my boyfriend definitely has other options like you know what I mean especially if he's an attractive

Riley Lewismale or an attractive woman you're gonna have options always well so you you currently you're how many girls does your boyfriend seen are you the main chick I'm the main yeah I would

Riley Lewisnot be okay with it if I was not the main chick okay so you're the main chick yeah does he like provide for you totally or yeah he totally provides for me I mean he gives me everything that I

Riley Lewiswould need like Comfort love attention you know like money everything like he pays the rent and right so like he he entirely provides for me which is why I'm okay obviously like you know he

Riley Lewisprovides sex as well and he provides sex to other women but like at the end of the day it's not about the other woman because he's only providing these other women sex he provides me everything and I feel like

Riley Lewisall men would cheat if they had the option I I kind of feel like that I disagree really I think I mean it it is sort of a

Brian Atlasthere's definitely like guys who believe in monogamy who are like really attractive dudes yeah who would not cheat I mean yeah maybe they wouldn't cheat

Brian Atlasbut does that mean that they don't want to you don't think like if a guy sees an attractive girl like at a club and they're a little drunk you don't think it crosses his Minds to cheat or to find

Riley Lewisher physically attractive I mean I guess I guess it is different but I feel like it all comes from like the same place of like desire because I mean the the actual thought process there

Brian Atlaswould be hmm yeah she's really hot okay uh should I go approach her like do I want to [ __ ] her tonight like then I I don't think that's a guy might be like oh yeah she's she's an

Brian Atlasattractive girl but I got a girlfriend like yeah right I'm not gonna I'm gonna gonna cheat and there are like uh I was one of the my friends who's been on the show probably a dozen times his name's

Brian AtlasChase very religious guy Christian guy um he's he's actually waiting until marriage uh well I mean he's had sex previously but he kind of became

Brian Atlasreligious and he's like you know what I'm gonna wait until marriage and um he strikes me as a guy who has convictions and he's like I'm waiting until marriage to have sex with my wife I want to have a wife right

Brian AtlasI don't get the impression that he's the type of guy once he gets married or if he's got a girlfriend and whatever yeah that he would cheat on her right and I think I think that's partly due to like his

Brian Atlasconviction his religious convictions right but uh there's definitely guys out there like and he uh not to like reveal too much but like

Brian Atlasthere are he gets probably he's only been on the show 12 times he gets he's had like thousands of DMS from chicks and it's pretty rare for

Brian Atlaslike girls to DM guys I genuinely speak thousands of DMS from chicks he's attractive guy but I think they're really attracted to just like he's like a really strong Christian self-control did you DM him because

Lilyyou're a Christian right yes did you slide into his DMS yeah I did oh I am saving myself a marriage as well you're saving yourself no I I'm not a virgin but you're not a virgin I have

Lilyconvictions and I've gone on full repentance repentance okay most things and I mean every single day is you work to be to repent but yeah my goal in life is to find a man who is willing to put

Brian Atlasin the work to have self-control with everything oh so you were hoping Chase would be on tonight um so you slid into his DMS what did you say I don't remember honestly it was a

Lilyreally long time ago pull out your phone all right boys imagine it's just either I did split into his jams but I don't I remember opening the DM I don't know she slipped into Chase's DMS but

Brian Atlasdid he reply he got he told me he's like dude I need to hire somebody to go through what's his Instagram I believe it's sovereign

Brian AtlasI'm Christian by the way yeah are you waiting until marriage no absolutely not okay wait so but you no I didn't slide into this damn you didn't I think I deleted it oh okay you're like he didn't respond I'm yeah I got a little embarrassed

Brian Atlashonestly yeah I'm sure a ton of people have deleted their DMS yeah you got like a thousands of DMS and [ __ ] but so I definitely think uh it men are capable of uh not cheating agreed but I think the

Brian AtlasTemptation is there certainly as a guy because I think who do you think is more likely to cheat though the guy who doesn't have a bunch of options and he's got a girlfriend but like another girl comes along and he's

Brian Atlaslike maybe I want to take this up or a guy who's got like tons of options and it's just like I feel like it's less tempting as a guy if you have a ton of options I think if you're an insecure man you're more

Jenny Deallikely to cheat oh yeah like it's it's arguably worse in its own way to catch your boyfriend being ghosted by a bunch of girls because he's trying to cheat

Jenny Dealand then if he is insecure then he would jump at an opportunity yeah to be with someone else whereas sure this chase guy who I have no idea who that is yeah it seems like he's securing himself so he doesn't

Brian Atlasrely on the thousands of DMs well he's also waiting until yeah so that's a pretty good buffer um but uh well yeah he could still cheat

Jenny Deallike emotionally or go out with people well if he's single then I get the impression from conversations I've had with him that he's like he strikes me as a very loyal

Brian Atlaswhen it comes to like a romantic relationship type of guy so wait so okay you are waiting until marriage but you previously there were some indiscretions or um so were you always Christian or you

Brian Atlasrecently became Christian what was that I grew up in a faith-based home I think we need to get a receipt booster by the way yeah I'm really short on one of the chairs yeah we have another one we have another

Lilyone we're gonna get you a seafood so um I grew up in a faith-based home but my faith is my own my parents never force it on me and then in when I went to college and in the last few years I

Lilycompletely abandoned my own faith and in the last you know few months maybe six months I have completely switched my life around and just devoted it to Christ

Brian AtlasI don't think Good Times Okay so wait so like when when's the last time that you got with the dude in that way

Lily[Music] two months ago yes so this is pretty new new development what if like a really hot dude comes

Lilyalong oh no chase no and I think also oh gosh he's ready to do it and Chase comes on to me and says oh I want to sleep with you I'm like okay you're not the man that I'm looking for then and also

LilySin is Sin everyone messes up and I think that we all fall short every single day and so a mistake that I made two months ago has nothing to do with who I am oh wait it's just a point of clarification so you said it was a

Brian Atlasmistake you made two months ago but prior to the two months ago had you already decided to make this commitment of I'm gonna wait until marriage yes and then uh then there was a mistake

Lilythere was a mistake with somebody that I was in a serious relationship with and uh he came back around and you know oh so you guys had broke up and yes and then you know feelings happen and you you know things happen but

Lilyyou had already made the commitment haven't you yes to myself into the Lord yes so what I mean but I also mean the track recording yeah but I mean every single every single day you say you don't want to be a liar but you lie and you cheat

Lilyand you get really mad when you get in a road rage I mean okay citizen okay we're gonna I need monthly check-ins okay I'll text you every single time every month on the first of the month

Brian AtlasI'm on the streak Brian it's been I haven't slept with anybody okay deal okay we will give updates on the show all right that uh no that Lily has uh

Brian Atlasher celibacy is uh intact so okay I hope I keep to it um okay well hey good good for you um

Brian Atlasthis will go out with you if you make it 24 months straight let's see so I don't know if you're at no fence I know your brothers I don't think you're you're really

Brian Atlasattractive girl but I don't I think he likes blondes most men do [Laughter] brunettes but um

LilyI think he wants like a tall Scandinavian and I'm a short Asian woman yeah yeah you never know though I'll ask him

Ryan RhinoI'll ask him he's got a girlfriend right now so I don't know oh he does oh she has a girlfriend you've been waiting I was gonna ask you a question so if you meet a new guy are

Ryan Rhinoyou gonna disclose to him that I did have a hiccup a few months back but now I'm reformed are you gonna disclose all that no that's nobody's business like that's not

Lilyhis business and if he's gonna judge me then what's he got to say about his track record as well okay and past relationships are past relationships they're in the past for a reason but you can wait

Lilyis that right but you did just disclose it on the phone yeah what I mean is like if he asks if he asks me I'm not going to just say it like hey by the way we're starting to date I slept with somebody two months ago

Lilyit's a weird thing to bring up yeah well wait you were snapping if you're saving if he says are you saving yourself a marriage I would say yes and he would say when was the last time that you were

Lilypromiscuous and I would probably be honest and then I would tell him but you know that's not gonna happen and wait what's not gonna happen you wouldn't in the future being brought up yeah oh you

Lilywouldn't wait what do you mean like I'm I'm I wouldn't have sex oh no no but we're talking about would you talk about it yes of course if he asked me and I mean in a relationship you have to be open with things of course okay yes I

Lilythink maybe we misunderstood but if it's like the first date I mean if it's like the first date and he asked me that then I would be like whoa that's a really big question for a first date I'll know first podcast like hello guys uh you were kind of agreeing with

Jenny Dealher a little bit I was agreeing with the like it'd be really strange to us to talk about like unless you're both very faith-based and like talk about body count no talk

Jenny Dealabout like waiting till marriage I feel like it doesn't make sense to bring it up unless you're already considering seriously dating them so I'm like yeah it's not a First Dates business if you're waiting for marriage

Jenny Dealor if you had sex a few months ago it's just a weird thing to bring up that soon unless you're like getting frisky and you're like oh by the way

Jenny Dealand then let's say they have a conversation of like oh how long has it been how long have you like when did you make the commitment like even this podcast like yeah exactly this conversation would be the exact conversation that I would probably have

Brian Atlaswith sure sure not be talking to but okay so you think it'd be weird I think the bigger thing is about like asking about the past but you think it would be weird let's say

Brian Atlaslet's say I'm saving myself for marriage I'm not but let's say I am and I was like that would probably be one of the first things I would ask if if I was I'd want

Jenny Dealto get that out of the way do you think she would ask like should ask if you're safe save yourself for marriage you would bring it up early if that's what you want in a partner I don't see a point in going on a date with someone that's like

Brian Atlastrying to that's just such a difference in value that I think it's better to just get it out I agree come up first I really do agree wouldn't Faith come up first before you get into that it could because like Devotion to God Is Bigger

Brian AtlasThan Just are you bumping uglies or not I haven't heard that term in a while what does that mean bumping uglies what is that like Grandma

Jenny Deallives saying having sex bumping ugly but so like you talk about faith first if it was like and absolutely not you wouldn't even go on a date with that person you probably wouldn't go like by the way are you

Brian Atlassaving yourself for marriage it would be like the third question after like oh are you do you practice your faith are you devout sure oh let's pull up the twitch really quick but I do have a point on that uh

Brian AtlasNick if you're able to pull it up pull up the twitch guys go to twitch.tv slash whatever drop us a follow drop us a prime sub uh yo Rex thing for the bits

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Brian Atlasfollow drop us a prime sub much appreciated uh twitch.tv slash whatever um so do you think and we'll open it up to the entire panel do you think let's

Brian Atlaslet's take religion out of it but let's say a guy is on a date with a girl and uh he he's curious he's like hey so um I'm

Brian Atlastrying to think of like the most diplomatic way to bring it up on a date let's say he doesn't do in like a skeezy way but essentially he's he's asking about like your past and your body count

Brian Atlashe wants to know what your body count is but he does so in like a respectful manner do you object do you think that's like is this the first date first date I

Jenny Dealthink it's a little bit much it's valid to want to know about relationship history so I assume if he's asking about sexual past it's valid enough to be like oh

Jenny Deallike have you been in other relationships before and that's only makes sense to me if you're dating seriously um but it's kind of skeezy to ask about body count on a first date it should

Jenny Dealwait until like I'd say a few dates yeah but if it's respectful then it would start with like I assume you'd want a more holistic view of were you sexual in relationships in the

Brian Atlaspast did you have a hoe phase sure let's go around the table on this so if a guy first date asks you hey I'm trying to think the exact

Brian Atlaswording because obviously there's like there's a uh a way that you can go about it to make it more palatable what's the most palatable way you could ask this

Jenny Dealum trying to trying to think here I would say a vague history like what's your sort of sexual history like if you don't mind me asking let's say he just politely is just like he's not kind of

Tiffanybeing scummy about it but he's just like hey so what's your body count okay let's play 21 questions what's your body count

LilyI'm baggage about one of the comments don't ask intimate questions on the first date I think it's the best time to time yeah if it's something you really value don't like the girl after you're

Bethanyjust like and her body count but like it's not better than like sooner better sooner than later yeah and it's it's I feel like that's a good conversation you could talk about a lot but I feel like it's a conversation to have when you're

Lilyactually getting sexual with that partner not on like the first date where you're just kind of getting to know each other like where you're from and [ __ ] like because it's like First Dates like I don't even know if I want to [ __ ] you yet it's like why would I tell you my body count yeah you know what I mean

Lilylike you're not going to be a part of it yet so I would say it's a little like off-putting but I wouldn't be like offended by it like I would answer it you know what what about you would I

Brian Atlasanswer it would you answer it would you kind of take uh some offense to it I think I would answer it I I wouldn't really care would you answer it um

TiffanyI guess I mean like I If he also tells me his body count but like I don't know that's not a question I would ask him wait this is really bothering my OCD can I have you two switch

Lilyyou know a little bit too I was like yeah I feel like if it also kind of came up

TTS Readerin the conversation then it'd be less weird like oh hold on Daddy donated 100 what swan race you ladies wouldn't date

BethanyAsian huh oh aren't you aren't you like half asian though yeah but like why what I just I've I've never found an Asian guy attractive and it's just preference

Lilytoo I just never have like I'm not like opposed to it but it's just like it's like it just came up in my head like oh like it's kind of weird that I've like never been attracted to an Asian guy

Tiffanylike me personally but I would date I used to not find Asian Asians attractive but like now I do I think it's more so like they can relate to me more with like culture and everything like that so

Tiffanylike me personally I really like I I like dating Asian guys stop your type now get some help I uh I don't necessarily have like a type when

Tiffanyit comes to like physical but like I'll date like you know any race but um I do like I do really like Asian guys what's oh sir you answered the question

Brian Atlasthis is a very um are you Asian I'm Asian yeah Eurasian yeah okay um

Lilydamn fool I'm I'm full Vietnamese full Vietnamese Madison full time full tie I thought you were Vietnamese we had this conversation did we not have this

Brian Atlasconversation like literally two episodes ago you're Ty yes oh cool good time sorry I didn't know that I thought you were Vietnamese okay uh

Brian Atlasso oh wait Asian guy would you do that are you um I wouldn't have dated most races you've dated most races yeah cool

Jenny Dealso what about what about you skin color doesn't really matter okay Matt Madison where we skipped her she's not Asian oh is it just oh you only want

Jenny Dealto know if the Asian girl yeah you just want to know about racism

Riley Lewispersonally like I think Asian women are very attractive but I've never really been attracted to an Asian man there are statistics that Asian men are

Jenny Dealmore discriminated against in dating it is it is true and this is kind of proof it is bring them all to me it is true if I was gay I'm just saying I'll go for Asian man

Lilyif I was a woman so that's why you can say that huh you said that yes I like white women I like Asian women yeah yeah

Ryan Rhinowhat about you what about you about like racial dating do you have any preferences when it comes to uh I've definitely messed with the whole color wheel so I don't think I have like a

Ryan Rhinospecific preference per se I feel like I go through phases like I've had I've had an Asian chapter and I had like a white chapter and stuff like that so chapter yeah

Ryan Rhinoa season and yeah I've been with like Sudanese and Ethiopian and all that type of [ __ ] so um oh no I've been having a novel

Ryan Rhinorecently oh no the book keeps getting longer but uh now I think I'm on like white right now like white brunette white brunette yeah was there white

Brian Atlasblonde at any point oh absolutely yeah I think that I like no fence Riley is that your natural hair color by the way are you um I'm actually naturally a redhead

Lilyoh yeah oh my gosh incredible yeah I don't discriminate I've just found that I like am not as attracted to Asian men

Lilywow yeah but it doesn't even matter I have a boyfriend now yeah and he's I'm offended on behalf of Asian men everywhere

Ryan Rhinoyou can just date them you said he liked them if not no well I said if I was if I was gay you know go crazy man just saying if I was gay I think the reason and you know me not

Ryan Rhinobeing Asian I don't know too much about this but I think the same reason why you know Asian women are attractive Works to the detriment of Asian men so like the very smooth complexion and like facial

Ryan Rhinostructure it's like Asian women are very soft kind of faces and not hard features like they don't have like big noses whatever and

Ryan Rhinolike those same features on a man like soft features is more feminine hence why Asians men are feminized yeah

Ryan RhinoI think you're about to get cancer no but I mean uh it's kind of well I'm not into men so I can't speak on the attractiveness of but I can only reason on why I might people gravitate people

Ryan Rhinogravitate towards certain physical features and jawline and muscular build and all that type of stuff it's interesting I don't know I've seen some pretty Chad Asian guys oh absolutely yeah so anybody

Jenny Dealcan be remarkably attractive but all right A lot of my male clients are Southeast Asian so they're struggling yeah send them my way

Brian Atlasokay a couple of them have girlfriends now after working with me here let me do soup chats Brian you're being too charitable she has no RIS this is from a while back most women have no idea how much work men put in before we could even get a

Brian Atlasdate think merci beaucoup for the Canadian 50. much appreciated do you have a response to uh most men don't know how simple it is to

Jenny Dealactually get dates erroneous from like a woman's perspective it's not that hard and from uh me getting screenshots from the men I

Riley Lewiswork with it's not that hard y'all are just weird sometimes I mean there is like a study where women like literally only like three percent of men's

Riley Lewisprofiles I've read that I've read and like like the 50 of the profiles so it's like it's a numbers game I mean it's like the top five percent of men are

Riley Lewisgetting like 90 90 like the top five percent of men are getting 95 of the women on these dating apps so it's like but barely any of them are actually

Jenny Dealtalking to each other right to get on a date which is what like the verse would be for to actually interact with them I mean I guess I just I feel like it's not as much about it's

Lilydefinitely harder for men yeah yeah wait you're like a dating coach correct okay I have a question for the panel um not to like dog on your job but I'm

Lilyjust gonna say like it's a new one if yeah if you found out like your man that you're talking to or your woman that you're talking to had like someone like

Bethanyhelping them you know like get a date with you how would you feel about that we can start with you yeah I mean I wouldn't really care as long as like they're not doing like everything

Bethanylike like as long as it's showing like a little bit of his personality and like someone's not writing the whole thing for him I don't think it matters I feel like it's kind of like funny but also like cute at the same time like I

Tiffanywouldn't like judge you if you didn't know how to talk to women like if anything that's great that you don't know how to talk to women because that means you haven't really been with a lot of women right so it's like yeah yeah that's how I feel about it

Jenny Dealwell one thing that the people I've worked with have struggled with is like if the person they're talking to finds out that they've gotten help um I think it's only happened once where it's like a guy's friend found out and she was like

Jenny Dealthat's weird but like let's say I was dating someone to find out that they had coach first of all I'd want to talk to the coach but yeah I think it's admirable if a man cares enough about his love life to

Jenny Dealinvest in help it's like getting a personal trainer like the fact that you had professional help doesn't take away in fact it it proves that you are committed to this and I think it's different from matchmaking

Jenny Deallike I'm not typing out messages for anyone I'm saying like for conversations instead of it sounding like an interview be like hey offer your own answer to this question too so it's like it's still there leading it they're

Riley Lewisjust getting help which is why I focus on dating apps because that is kind of hard to do yeah I guess like for me I feel like honestly like it would probably be like

Riley Lewisa little bit of an ick like if I found out like I don't know I don't know personally like I just like feel like the man should like always like take the lead and like situation like that so yeah

Lilywell I mean have y'all seen the movie Hitch with Will Smith oh I've heard it all the time but it's it's about how he helps men

Lilyget women but not into bed but more find love because it's hard for men to really understand how to talk to women sometimes and so I think getting help it's like a therapist like yeah you said like I'm in therapy

Lilybecause I want to change myself to be better for the partner and the people that are around me you know you have to work in life to you know be good

Ryan Rhinoyeah I know for a fact no girl none of y'all have ever looked up how to talk to a guy do like you guys going in Middle School you guys go on videos right now and say how to get a guy to like you I think in

Ryan Rhinolike Middle School yeah I would definitely do that and then you grew up and realized oh I don't have to do anything yeah I usually just go like exactly works out yeah I mean

Ryan Rhinoif a girl ever did that learn not try to talk to me whatever that'd be great but it is it is funny that concept that I think a lot of girls would be turned off by that if they found out their man

Ryan Rhinoneeded extracurricular help to learn how to talk yeah because the the best way to get women is to have women like you girls you elaborate on that thank you for example my statement I just made

Ryan Rhinothere yeah so like if it's like the proximity thing I was able to one time I went to like uh what's it called like a Pilates thing yeah with our soul cycle how about your

Ryan Rhinothing with a beautiful girl and then she brought her friend and I ended up sliding on the friend but the only reason probably that why the friend already thought I was cool was because I already had to social proof that I was

Ryan Rhinowith a beautiful woman so she knew like oh this guy must already be cool whereas if I would have just went up to the friend and didn't know she'd be like all right have a good one sir but it's like when women know you get women or know

Lilyyou can talk to women they like you because it's just like if other women mess with them well they're I will but if other women don't mess with him why would I I agree I just think like for me

Lilypersonally it would be it would be to like um say like my boyfriend for example like need someone else to kind of help him because I don't know I've just the way I'm thinking about it's like imagine

Lilyit's like his like girl best friend like trying to help him talk like I don't know girl best friends is so different though yeah yeah yeah it just happened before yeah oh no it was fine with like

Jenny Deala different relationship yeah yeah how much you can charge for your services wow I do here's the picture I'm like about to be sold out I actually already kind

Jenny Dealof am I do profile reviews because those are pretty quick and immediate results for sixty four dollars for like a 10 15-ish minute review in-depth suggestions I do

Jenny Dealmonth-long coaching for 1500 taking on clients for August right now I can only take like five ish at a time so opening up for August it's about

Jenny Dealit's a few hundred a week for message support voice notes a weekly coaching call um I always call them before first date to be like you got this remember like don't be weird

Jenny Dealbecause usually first say it's just anxiety so it's like they'll want to know most of my videos I do well it's me just being like here's what task on a first date no one actually asks it but it feels nice when you go to the date to know you can talk about something yeah

Brian Atlasso it's like it's like a girl best friend without the weirdness of that has anybody ever told you this this following objection uh you should not

Jenny Dealask a fish how to fish all the time and it's the same thing where I'm like first of all the foundation is so problematic calling woman fish it's like you're trying to catch them I'm not a

Jenny Dealpickup Artist as one of the commenters observed I'm not giving pickup lines I cannot just pick up a random person I think that's weird wait what's weird um like pickup artist being like Oh like don't ask a fish how to catch a fish ask

Jenny Deala fisherman it's like well I think it's in the net it's an analogy the I know it's an analogy but it's like the mind of a woman it's kind of like um I've always said guys who grew up with

Jenny Dealsisters are typically better to date because they already view women as like people and they know how to interact with women as opposed to like the Madonna [ __ ] like being a woman as

Brian Atlaseither a mother a sex object um well I kind of I reject this idea that men it's valid I think men need Brotherhood no but I don't think men who

Brian Atlasdon't have sisters view women I don't think that's correlation not causation though that's a fair characterization what's that I think

Jenny Dealit's a like correlation not a causation men who grew up with sisters tend to be more normal with women that doesn't mean that if you didn't grow up with sisters you're awful it's plausible but

Brian Atlasthat's a trend I've noticed but I mean that that's a it's a little Martin Bailey that's a different statement than the fish well no no it's uh

Brian Atlasyour your previous comment was men who grew out who grew up without sisters or men who grew up with sisters are more likely to you know view them as actual

Jenny Dealhuman beings or what I forgot exactly what you said I think was about to view them as like people rather than a mother or a sex object I mean it's not clear to me if you have

Lilya sister that because your sister isn't necessarily raising your experience with like understanding women periods this and sweet like you need to understand women to be able to date

Brian Atlaswomen well I think I think it's a more fair statement to say that if you grew up with a sister perhaps you have more first-hand experience

Lilyyeah having a relationship with someone who's a woman I think that's kind of just like exactly what she's saying though you you use different words to say the same thing no no

Jenny Dealbecause I mean I agree with what you're saying no but you're saying that men who didn't grow up with sisters no I just said men who didn't grow up with sisters can still be solid people it's a trend I've noticed

Brian Atlasit doesn't mean that the opposite is true no no you don't have to apologize you don't have to apologize you're just moving the goal post a little bit but

Brian Atlasum but I have gotten the comment to go back to the fish sure yeah but and to your credit I think because I think what a lot of guys might say is like well okay you're you're a dating coach you're

Brian Atlashelping men on the dating apps um but like to your credit I think you said you're bisexual correct oh yeah so you do have

Brian Atlasto some degree experience dating women however you don't have experience as a straight man dating women and I think there's a different there is a

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