03:52:21Brian Atlasdon't understand it's not our job as men to be the pretty ones that's y'all job
03:52:29Priyaguys it's so nice and they could not still be ready oh yeah it's not even it's not yeah it's just it's just looking clean cut and knowing how to
03:52:40Jakepresent yourself you know I look I was going to have a hair that's not even aerodynamic so me and Brian pre-planned this I said I'd dress nice and I was like Brian are you gonna wear the planner just so someone's ready you know
03:52:52Priyarepurpose it a little bit yeah it's not even like a crazy amount of effort that needs to be put into it honestly it's just kind of knowing how to style yourself and having a few really good kind of Timeless pieces you know what guys you've changed
03:53:06Dariacan I take you shopping okay
03:53:15Brian Atlaslet's take you shopping but not pay for it excuse me I'll help you I'll fix your wardrobe for us and I'm high maintenance you got the wine and dime you're not gonna if you're gonna take me shopping you're paying for that you know your
03:53:25Brian Atlasworth yeah that's right yes Queen
03:53:32Brian Atlasokay okay can you take that last part back the yes Queen can we not go can we not use them it's it's done accept it okay uh let's see did we it doesn't do social we did this one actively dresses
03:53:44TTSdown to not be flashy the social media thing is a turn on not having social media no I like when a man has social media donated 100 get a gold chain and you'll be golden no
03:53:56Brian Atlaslisten yeah listen dude you got Pearl Jam do you guys know Eddie veterans yes yes that's what I'm going for okay
03:54:10Brian Atlasit was a great look in the early 90s it's a great look today so are you going for like the grunge like Kurt Cobain I'm looking for I'm yeah but but like the Eddie Vedder look which is okay yeah the
03:54:22Brian Atlasband like they all most of the grunge band singers they all died but Eddie Vedder is still kicking so I'm going for the Eddie Vedder look I mean I'm sure he's gotten plus
03:54:33Brian Atlassweatpants no you'll you'll get you'll get some some babes with that anybody try to sing a Pearl Jam song really quick
03:54:46AubryI grew up on rock band I it's always when like I'm spacing the Pearl Jam ones but I know for a fact I have some of my playlist
03:54:58AubryI mean 1970. wait is it live is alive by Pearl Jam I think you're talking about Smashing Pumpkins better man is a good song is it live by Pearl Jam that's the one I'm just saying yeah oh a
03:55:11Aubrylot Oh I thought we were gonna get copyrighted yeah I know but you kind of just like you didn't sing it you're just like I mean Eddie Vedder kind of sings like marbles in his mouth okay let's move on here we have uh the
03:55:24Gracereal Mr meatball could you date someone substantially smarter than you oh I hope to dig somebody smarter than me because I have learned some things if they have high EQ too like they have
03:55:36Graceto be smart but also very understand how to talk to people pretentions about it yeah I dated a couple of men who are in the genius IQ range and I found that it
03:55:49Nicoleactually turned out to be quite difficult for me so I like I like when a man is intelligent and smarter than me in areas that I'm not so capable but I think I've learned from me there is actually like a threshold where it's
03:56:03Aubrylike it doesn't work for me I guess it's just about like complimenting like you like the areas where you each aren't I say like I'd obviously rather date a man that's smarter than not I've like dated
03:56:14Aubryguys but like even just talking about like like different IQ levels or like I don't know like study habits things like that like it's it's one of those things again where
03:56:26Aubryum what does the word high whatever it's like hypergamy yeah like I feel like it's the same thing with intelligence like I want somebody that like I can actually learn from and grow but I also want them to be able to like grow for me and grow and learn from me in the same
03:56:39Aubryways as well instead of me feeling like I'm dragging them along because they're like you know they don't want to try or they just it doesn't click like that's their Peak
03:56:49Aubryyeah yeah because I've dated guys where it's like I I'm like looking to get a little bit more out of them and I'm like oh like that's it like that's kind of where it stops
03:57:02JakeJake from rattlesnake TV would you would you date a woman who's stupider than you well of course I would of course yeah they're they're all I'd be much more hesitant to date a woman that's smarter
03:57:14Jakethan me yeah I'd rather date a woman who's more shiver than me no way absolutely
03:57:31JakeWhat specifically do you want to know I just like I think that like you know well you can tell I mean you have you have exchanges with them and you can see who gets the upper hand and then you have to sort of go easy on them
03:57:42Dariabut like is it like wanting to like be like the I don't know how to what's the word for it like are you asking if I wanted a powered fruit type of vibe like all right I'm gonna always know well you
03:57:55Jakedon't want you don't want somebody who's always going to be constantly like challenging you on absolutely everything because it's Adventures is that the right word I don't know so so like we
03:58:06Jakelike somebody like me like I've got a business that I run and I'm constantly challenged by everything around me all the time so when I get home I want tenderness and love and if someone if
03:58:18Jakesomeone who wants to help me with whatever Endeavors I'm doing and that's fine but I don't want to get home and have somebody who just wants to argue with me challenge me and all these sorts of things I don't want somebody yeah so like I think it's important to be able to have intellectual conversations but
03:58:31Jakealso definitely um I said before I I liked it yeah yeah no one needs a brain anymore honestly I think one day you're going to be old and like you're gonna be gray and old and you're going to want to talk about
03:58:43Jakesomething with someone and like some of the common misconceptions that like a lot of guys say they want a girl who's just going to sit there and shut up and be quiet and I I personally don't think think that I think that like you want somebody who can have a conversation with you and dumber than you doesn't
03:58:55Dariamean dumb or stupid yeah I feel like you maybe worded it differently but I get I get what you're saying more and I'll let you explain it a little bit so someone who's less less a little bit of an
03:59:06Brian Atlasintelligence Gap yes a small intelligence Gap I don't even know if it's like an intelligence Gap stupid women are really hot like like a girl who's just dumb bimbo feminism
03:59:22Aubrythey're gonna offer guys like you what do you mean [Music]
03:59:37AubryI think I think great I think they're funny I think you know what I mean I think you're afraid if they're too smart they're gonna start critiquing your outfit too much if they're too smart
03:59:49Brian Atlasthey're too small they're gonna critique my yeah no I feel like uh high IQ people probably don't give a [ __ ] about how you dress it's you could actually make the opposite argument that like super high high IQ women are like not super
04:00:01Brian Atlasconcerned with materials like really like low IQ women are like really obsessed with vanity so awesome but uh because there's not much more
04:00:12Brian Atlasdepth to them but when I when I say like a dumb like a a stupid by the way I'm kind of being facetious but not like a dumb woman that's gonna like
04:00:23Brian Atlas[ __ ] up your life but like a simple woman you know sure it's just like very much like an airhead because like sometimes being hyper intelligent comes
04:00:33Brian Atlaswith neuroticism so it's like you know they're just because like if you're kind of ignorance is bliss type of [ __ ] like if you're super smart and you're just
04:00:43Dariathinking about like man poverty it was like bro okay oh my God basically want to balance I really want to want
04:00:56AubryI really was going to the airport looking at people thinking if there was an apocalypse right now who would die first so I I mean what wait what I was I'm thinking about how you're like you want someone who doesn't you know they're just sitting there thinking like
04:01:07Aubryoh poverty like I was sitting there in the airport thinking like I wonder like I'm like oh that lady would definitely die first like zombies took over right now is that what you mean like just thinking about like well like there's
04:01:18Brian Atlaslike stupid where they make mistakes and they [ __ ] up you know and you don't want that what kind of mistake what's the other and like you're you mean The Sweet Spot of stupidity is that what we were looking for yeah there's like a sweet
04:01:31Jakespot Sweet Spot sweet for sure it depends on the personality as well like I'm somebody who's a big Communicator like I'm traveling with my brother we work together he's a terrible Communicator internalizes everything so I find that very frustrating
04:01:43Jakeso if I ever had a wife then I would need her to be a good communicator and I find that's a form of intelligence that I would personally need whereas other people like my brother for example he wouldn't care at all about that like you know he's a very creative smart but like
04:01:56Brian Atlaswouldn't not not necessarily like somebody who needs to communicate so we have we have here Don a I think for the uh donation man I appreciate it I run a hundred mile foot races and sandals LOL
04:02:07Brian Atlas39 single Marine vet oh yeah there we go I think you can do it in sandals what did I miss was I away from this party
04:02:18Brian Atlasand be ready to save people and he's saying he's a vet and he wears I run 100 look there's people who do Barefoot I run Barefoot and you had blisters I'm just I'm just saying the most
04:02:30Brian Atlascomfortable way listen if you're trudging through the glass there's glass strewn streets of the Paris riots and then there's like
04:02:39Brian Atlasum what's uh well what's like a uh disease you can get on your uh Titus you know you want shoes when you're walking through the streets son
04:02:50Brian AtlasI'm not walking around New York City or San Francisco
04:02:57Tasialook I go you go to the beach yeah you go in the sand fun you can you can go barefoot but uh I'm just saying you know you can't do that Brian do you think your level of risk aversion is normal because even
04:03:09Tasiawith like first dates and marriage and not wanting to wear sandals huh are you genuinely asking what wait so what's the question what's your
04:03:19Tasiaquestion do you think your level of risk adversity is normal is my level of risk averseness normal yeah you're like you're always worried
04:03:31Brian Atlasabout these weird situations I'm deeply worried about this you're right he's trolling you okay maybe maybe not the sandals but like the the marriage
04:03:42Brian Atlasand like not paying on a phrase I do feel like really insecure when I'm wearing sandals though not gonna lie like I do in the back of my head I'm like bro if [ __ ] goes down I'm [ __ ]
04:03:53Brian Atlasyou feel vulnerable right yeah like I'm going to Chipotle bro who knows who's coming some [ __ ] gun man comes in Chipotle I got my [ __ ] sandals on I'm [ __ ]
04:04:03Brian AtlasI can't run and I can't run in sandals son there's also the feet fetishers you don't want to be showing your toes you know what's crazy you know what's
04:04:12Aubry[ __ ] crazy if you there's a website called wikiFeet I'm on that shape not like someone someone uploaded my feed picks to that do you feel betrayed no no why why do you have feet
04:04:28Brian AtlasI'll send it just like some weird dudes like a couple some weird dudes be screenshotting my feet drop the link why are you putting your feet online no I didn't put it online I'm just saying there's like a photo
04:04:40Brian Atlasand my feet happen to be in the photo these [ __ ] like zoom in on the feet I literally have a Wiki feet article about me come here
04:04:52Brian Atlasand I'm high rated I'm super high rated on Wiki feet watch out girls I'm coming for your bread I'm coming for your only fans money hey collab
04:05:03Brian Atlaslet's go let's [ __ ] go wait so what was your question seriously though I'll try to be serious what was your question does anyone remember making something
04:05:12Graceabout your level of risk adversity is realistic or is it normal you seem very highly adverse account is that what you're saying or like high anxiety I don't know you're like very you're very
04:05:24Jakenervous about certain situations I don't think he's nervous yeah in terms of marriage in terms of marriage and his Beyond marriage you have to be careful these days it's there's no it's not the risk-averse it's
04:05:37Tasiabeing smart and calculated not thinking with your dick yeah but even like not paying on the first date I feel like sometimes you just gotta risk the L
04:05:48DariaI feel like I've paid on first dates like a lot of times and why do you do that fine just because I am I'm able to and I want to and it
04:06:00Aubrydoesn't matter I know it's gonna come back like it's just it's just one [ __ ] are these are these dates where you're just going out to dinner or that is there an activity involved in the day as well [Music]
04:06:11Brian Atlaswait Tasia has a question for me please restate your question I will I will answer it do you think your level of risk aversion is normal what's what specifically
04:06:23Tasiaare we talking about here do you do you feel like it's normal for you to be so concerned about like what could possibly go wrong in terms of marriage
04:06:33Brian Atlasyeah I think it might be more General but especially in dating and marriage so you're you're saying that like when it comes to dating I am risk averse yeah
04:06:43Brian Atlasmore than the norm well I think I think I'm I am merely moving and operating the same way that like an average woman would move in terms of my
04:06:53Brian Atlasscreening process because I think men are honestly terrible screeners and they'll honestly take anything that comes whereas like I think I'm approaching like when it comes to the screening that I do
04:07:05Brian Atlaslike it's commensurate with like the average woman so am I risk averse when it comes to dating
04:07:15Tasiaprobably but that's smart to a degree it's smart I think you can miss out on a lot of great Girls by refusing to pay for a first date no that's some gangster [ __ ]
04:07:27Brian Atlasthey love that like your name is Grace right you can't tell me wait what's Gangster not paying for it not paying for it no it's cowardly how's it cow whoa I
04:07:39Brian Atlastake offense I take offense someone give me a glove I'm gonna challenge you to a duel how dare you call me a coward you can't tell me that if a woman like Grace wanted to go on a date with you that you'd be like oh yeah she's sleeping
04:07:51Nicolewith a bunch of men so I can't buy this nice lady oh no she's got the Miley Cyrus hair I don't know I don't know this about you you don't ever pay on first dates
04:08:03Dariathere are some rare occasions in which I will pay for first like you don't even go half and half like it's just a full you you don't like it no no I'll pay I'll pay for my food I'm a gentleman all right I'll pay for my food
04:08:28Brian Atlaslike I'm not paying for her portion what do you mean hold on at some point in the day that I've just that's predetermined no he is there's not this there's not a decision in the middle of the date where like I'm not paying for this [ __ ] it's
04:08:40Nicolelike going in I don't care how cool she is so because you said sometimes you'll pay sometimes you don't so I thought like what how do you oh okay that's fair that's fair that's why I was like wow how are you deciding yeah you've caught
04:08:51Nicoleme in the uh yeah one question at the time how do you form a line please I will answer all your questions when to pay for a date and how do you decide when you're not going to and what does
04:09:03Brian Atlasthat look like on the date for you so there's a uh one thing I'll look at is income okay income if she's making good money
04:09:15TTSif she's a professional she has a career under those circumstances [Music] um thank you Victor I feel like Brian is a bit too careful when it comes to dating
04:09:28TTSbut it seems that's not enough looking at how the dating scene looks like in the states in other places you don't of all these factors that make it harder for you she is Bree
04:09:47Brian Atlasokay one thing he's talking about like for example guys have to be cognizant when it comes to the not paying thing uh a lot of maybe not a lot of women but enough women do what's called a foodie call
04:09:58Brian Atlaswhere they're going on dates with the in without a genuine intention of pursuing anything whether it be sexually or romantically so they'll they'll go on a date with a guy because they had nothing better to do and they just want a free
04:10:10Brian Atlasmeal I'm not saying all women do this but if you've dated long enough like you've ran into a girl who's a user just like I'm sure women have you guys have maybe ran into dudes who are [ __ ]
04:10:21Nicolemisrepresented the date like I can tell she's that kind of woman so I'm not gonna pay and then why are you taking well that's that's like a that's like a if that's the determining Factor you wouldn't go if you knew why are you
04:10:35Brian Atlastaking her out I wouldn't go right like so how are so when do you not pay for a date predetermined well like I was as I was about to say if she's a career woman if she's making her own money
04:10:45Brian Atlasand also like living in California a lot of women you encounter tend to lean more liberal Progressive so you kind of like bro you're you can't be feminist until
04:10:56Brian Atlasthe check comes you can pay like this is what you ask for maybe that's been bit vindictive but I'd say the main thing is for example if she's younger and she's in college or something like she's just
04:11:06Brian Atlas21 she's still in college under those circumstances I'd be more not climbed more inclined to pay but honestly I feel like you can do some even extra gangster
04:11:16Nicole[ __ ] and just do something for free do some free [ __ ] go for a little so the best move and it's only a couple that have ever done it it's when the the
04:11:27Nicolething that I love the most is when the man excuses himself to go to the restroom and he pays the bills so that when it when so it's not even an issue at the table so he takes care of the
04:11:39Nicolebill and it's done and then they come and they say thank you that happened to me and I swear it was like wow yeah that was a class act because he was like I'm not even going to put her in a position he knows he knows who I am
04:11:51Nicolehe's like I'm not even gonna go there it didn't matter like what I made what I did whatever whatever he's like I don't of course I want to get it and so he just got it yeah listen this isn't like what I'm what I am putting out there is
04:12:05Brian Atlasnot like the most effective thing you can do the most effective thing you can do regardless of what the situation is whether it's a foodie call whether it's not whether she's liberal whether she's
04:12:15Brian Atlasconservative is to pay for the date however as a matter of principle even though it comes at my detriment or my potential detriment by losing women
04:12:27Brian Atlasfor me it's kind of like a principal thing because because if you're like dating liberal women which I mean in my I'm trying to avoid that in recent recency but like living
04:12:40Brian Atlasin California living in Santa Barbara a super liberal place a lot of the women you're going to counter are probably like lean liberal you they'd probably say I believe in gender equality gender roles should be removed blah blah
04:12:53Nicolelike I'm not gonna I'm not genders can be equal and have different roles men and women are equal in their days yeah but you can't but they can have different roles and they can have and
04:13:05Nicolethey can be complementary you don't have to say that a woman is lesser than a man to justify paying for a woman's meal that's not what I'm saying but there are
04:13:18Brian Atlascertain gender roles that benefit men and there are certain gender roles that benefit women okay so you don't get to like gen equality is not a buffet where you pick and choose the benefits with
04:13:28Brian Atlaswhich you like you you take the the equality that benefits you and disregard the equality that doesn't come to your benefit
04:13:40Nicolesaying that if a woman I just for clarification so if the woman wants the right to vote and the right to an education then she shouldn't anticipate a man paying for her meal to to give her
04:13:53Brian Atlasa small social cue that he is of a provider mindset well being a provide being in the provider mindset that's a that's a uh traditional gender role I I I'm not sure
04:14:06Brian Atlasthe the two examples you gave are perfect examples but I'm trying to think of like maybe you could think of one I'm trying to think of a better example um for example okay you want a man who's
04:14:17Brian Atlasa leader and who's a protector and who's going to take initiative right in what sense okay so while paying for the date that would be like a man being
04:14:28Brian Atlasin the leadership position so if you want a man to be in that leadership position he ought to have like the man in a long-term relationship in her marriage should be the head of the household in
04:14:40Brian Atlasother words the final decision on any issue is mine for example if I don't if I want my kids to not go to public school and I want them to go uh be homeschooled
04:14:51Nicoleand you disagree with me it's my call right so I would only marry a man whose judgment I trusted in the first place okay so I'm only
04:15:02Nicolegoing to marry a man where I feel like he would make proper decisions for my life and my children's life and for the betterment of the family sure and so
04:15:13Nicolethat's a that's a non issue to me that's so awesome I want him to be a leader I if I don't respect him and I don't think he's a good decision maker well you shouldn't be dating him
04:15:23Nicolethen I wouldn't be dating him that's like of course I want that I'm trying to think of another example well here's go ahead Priya I definitely agree with that but to an extent I think
04:15:34Priyathat just because I do believe that the man of the home is essentially the the main decision maker there are probably going to be decisions that he's going to make that I don't fully agree with at the at that point in time but I'm going
04:15:47Priyato trust him and believe because I trust his decision-making capability and I trust that he has my um our well-being and the well-being of our you know future kids at the Forefront of his mind and I have to
04:15:59Nicoletrust that he's making these decisions for for that betterment I agree 100 and I actually think this I actually think that uh oftentimes men
04:16:09Nicolemake better decisions 100 uh than I would make and I think I've learned in dating that sometimes men have a foresight that I don't have
04:16:21Nicoleum and if I just defer to their decision and and what they've chosen I often find that if I sit back and allow it to play out it actually is a great decision um whereas when I was younger I think I might have been like well I don't I
04:16:34Priyadon't see that and I'm not sure and I think we should do it this way or whatever but now I I don't know I feel differently now so I'm saying I agree with you no totally and oh go ahead sorry just one more quick Point
04:16:45Priyaum just women tend to be more emotional decision makers and men tend to be more rational so I think therefore that's why they it like historically make better and more uh trusted decisions so let me
04:16:57Nicoleask you a question is it a man's job to pay on the first date I think for me if a man doesn't pay he's not the
04:17:09Brian Atlasman for me okay most likely now if I were to say it's a woman's job to cook and clean do you object to that statement or is that okay for you um I think that if someone's in a
04:17:21Nicoletraditional gender World marriage and they've decided like the woman's going to stay home and cook and clean and and raise the kids and the husband's going to be a provider like that's fine now now I'm not just to clarify I'm not
04:17:34Brian Atlasnecessarily saying that that's what I believe yeah but as a woman even if you're a liberal leaning woman you're not going to get a ton of pushback if you say I want a guy
04:17:44Brian Atlaswho or I think men should pay for the first date however if a guy were to say I think a woman should cook and clean you're gonna get a lot well people will be losing their [ __ ] he wants a woman
04:17:57Nicolewho wants to stay home and be a homemaker then he should find that kind of woman there's lots of women who want to do that I think that's great I have nothing wrong with that I do know women who don't like when men pay on dates and
04:18:09Nicolethat's fine too but you're asking my opinion do I think a man should pay on the first date that's I people have free will I they can do
04:18:19Nicolewhatever they want all I'm saying is if I go on a date and I go to dinner if I'm asked out on a date from a man and we go to this dinner and the bill came and he wanted to split it with me I would split
04:18:30Nicolethe bill I wouldn't say anything about it I would quietly pay my piece be I would quietly like pay my piece of the bill but I wouldn't go on a second date with him that's fine and look everyone can have I
04:18:43Nicolemean it's not like a big it's just my preference okay but couldn't it be my preference to not want to pay on the first date it can be your preference yes okay but you
04:18:54Nicoleobject to it I don't object to it for you if that's your choice and that's attracting the kind of woman that you want but for me if you and I went on a first date and you said hey Nicole let's go out to dinner we go to some seafood
04:19:06Nicoleplace I don't know you're wearing flannel and I'm looking great and then the bill came in and you wanted just to uh you said okay let's split the bill I'd be like okay great like I
04:19:18Brian Atlaswouldn't I wouldn't be negative in the moment I'd be polite and I'd split the bill with you but I wouldn't go out again yeah that's fine I mean well you're bringing up the physical appearance thing like in terms
04:19:29Brian Atlasof a man's dress I mean I would simply just reiterate once again that's while it does add bonus points for men to be physically attractive or well
04:19:40Brian Atlasdressed that is not our primary method at least I believe of being attractive to a partner I agree um that's I think that's more within the
04:19:50Dariarealm of of women I agree in that situation though at the same time like it also does kind of depend on
04:20:00Nicolelike who sure who invited who out well yeah but generally speaking men are initiating First Dates if I split the bill with a man it's because I'm not interested in him so
04:20:12Brian AtlasI'll sometimes I will offer to split it sure or to pay it and yeah it's because there's definitely there's definitely guys and there's definitely guys that will be if you even offered a split they might be like turned off by that there
04:20:26Brian Atlasare some guys who are going to be like right that's why I would like to do that it might be turned off I wasn't interested in him but then there there are definitely guys who will look at that and be like oh okay she wants to equally contribute to the start of this
04:20:37Brian Atlasrelationship like and I don't think that makes a guy like a super liberal soy boycock or anything I just I like when they reach for it the thing where they pretend that they're going to like find their purse
04:20:48Brian AtlasI don't reach Honestly though the hottest I I think the hottest thing a girl could do is she just pays for the whole [ __ ] thing like she's a straight up synth that's so [ __ ] hot if a girl's just that's actually that's actually a good girl
04:21:03NicoleI did that a couple days ago I went inside to the restroom and I paid the whole bill now because it shows that she's really trying but I wasn't interested that's just your nature I just dropped it like yeah I can acts of service let's
04:21:17Nicolego um but yeah wait should we talk about how um lots of people are saying because I'm 39 I'm too picky and I shouldn't and I shouldn't have uh so many I shouldn't be
04:21:30Nicoleasking for so much I'm asking for too much because I'm 39. yeah just out of curiosity so yeah do you want kids I'm open either way you're open yeah I'm open to having a
04:21:41Nicolechild um and if I don't have a child then I'm okay with that do you date people who do have kids I don't date people with children now okay have you before
04:21:52NicoleI tried once because a friend of mine was like why don't you try dating men with kids and I tried it and it wasn't for me the question comes back to that like if
04:22:02Jakeyou do want to have kids then obviously 39 you're getting on so it's going to be much much harder for you to have kids from now on so then I think that that's what people would be alluding to in terms of lowering the bar a little bit
04:22:14Nicolewith your standards yeah so for me so yeah I only have probably a few years if I want to have a child if I meet someone and we get on quickly and it's the right person and I
04:22:25Nicoleget pregnant we have a child that's beautiful if I don't meet the man who is for me until my 50s and that time has passed for me
04:22:35Nicoleum I can show my maternity and my femininity and that love in other ways um and it will probably be something that I do mourn to some extent but that's okay
04:22:47Jakeum I just would want to find the right person for me and how how much are you willing to wiggle in terms of this Arrangement because if you did want to have kids like look we just said that the clock's ticking quite a bit are you
04:22:59JakeI do have wiggle room there or is it are you pretty set in either way let's just let's let's just take the first date for example okay I think that you're you expect too much in terms of
04:23:11Jakethe first date okay I can understand that you're asking or having him I'll explain it so like I can understand why you'd want someone to be financially sort of stable and then obviously that first date thing that's a generosity thing
04:23:24Jakeum and you know that's an attractive thing but in terms of paying for the First Dates maybe the guy is just seeing if you're willing to go halves like maybe he's willing to maybe he's just maybe maybe he's just doing that to
04:23:37Nicolejust see if you have if you if you understand reciprocity maybe and I've gone halves and I've reached for my wallet and I've reached for my wallet with the intention to offer I've also yeah but I've I'll if I'm going like
04:23:49JakeI'll actually you know I will so I've done all the different I I just think I I I'm not sure if I really necessarily believe you when you say that you that's an automatic no-go
04:24:02Jakebecause it has to be something else that happened in the day because if it was a really good date and if he was a good Prospect and if you do want to have kids in the future surely you wouldn't just not go on a second date because he it's
04:24:16Nicolean interesting question because I think the men that I'm going on dates with they they don't want me to pay for half so it's it's I I'm trying to imagine a scenario with the a man I'm going on a
04:24:27Jakedate with who wants to go halves but I I'm not like what about like I just said reciprocity he wants to just he wants you to to be showing that you're willing to reciprocate from the jump
04:24:39Nicoleokay so if I'm on a date and he wants me to go halves I'll go halves I've said that but then you won't go on a second date probably not probably not but what if it was a what if it was a good date otherwise and what
04:24:52Nicoleif you were actually very surprised because he was generous in other regards and he strucks he was a generous yeah then I would I would it's not an end-all be-all it's just it's a it's a difficult question because the men that I go on
04:25:04Nicoledates with are not asking me to go have it's just like not in their nature really maybe to ask me to go have these so I'm not in that scenario yeah I see what you mean I don't so so
04:25:17Nicolethey're I mean getting back to the whole wiggle room thing there is wiggle room you do have wiggle room in in in terms of the dates because it is it depends on what we're wiggling on like I just said
04:25:28Jakewhat like he does like like yes like he goes halves he's on a first date yeah just little things like that because like if if you do want to have children then that should be something that
04:25:39Jakeyou're pursuing with some Vigor rather than just saying oh well not him not him not him not him you know so yeah if you're pursuing it then you'd want to maybe get to know somebody on a deeper level before you reject them for not
04:25:50Brian Atlaswanting to stay for the date every time sure I understand that yeah Jake from rattlesnake TV are you saying that she has two high standards yes I am actually
04:26:03Jakewell you know I actually appreciate the standards though I like I like the fact that you like it just know what you want but in terms of your own if I were you like and you know you were sort of heading towards your 40s
04:26:14Jakejust kidding I'm kidding it's it's not I don't my personal opinion is that it's not a very nice existence to be north of 50 and not have a family so that's fair yeah yeah I was also
04:26:27Nicolethinking about never being married ever so we might have like slightly different you know I think that's awesome so um yeah they're around meatball donated
04:26:37TTS100 thank you man why not consider just doing it yourself or at least freeze your eggs to keep your options open freeze the eggs option are they
04:26:48Nicolesuggesting you yourself isn't having a child yeah they're saying I have a child on your own like freezer egg we know what happens to children I don't what I don't prison I wouldn't
04:26:59Jakedo IBM prison poverty prison wait children who are raised by only their father children who are raised in single mother homes are 20 times more likely to end up in prison
04:27:10Jakefar more likely to end up in poverty dropouts single fathers is much less much less single dads well I mean because obviously single dads have more of the
04:27:24Priyatough love and then single mothers are more nurturing so especially if you're a young boy you're gonna walk all over your mother looking at the like the majority of people that are going to prison are also men so boys that grow up without a
04:27:36Priyastrong and good male figure in their lives that's that's the result of it yeah and also I was raised in a single mother of like home
04:27:46GraceI was raised in a single parent home and I feel like it's not the greatest environment to grow up in because you have so much of a burden put on you because I was the oldest so I kind of
04:27:58Gracewas the second parent and I just I don't think it's fair like I don't think everyone has the right to be a parent and like yeah I don't think freezing eggs is a
04:28:08Tasiaethical way to do things would you guys date a single father I would that's right I love that for you Brad
04:28:18TasiaPitt would you pay for the first date would you pay for the first date
04:28:25Priyaso I did date a single father and it was not in the plans I never saw myself doing so it was just we were good friends and it it progressed into more
04:28:36Priyaum he was a great guy but we didn't align on a lot of values and the kids thing was a problem for me did you meet the kids I did yeah I bet you're a great scolder I'm at the kids before we started dating because
04:28:49Priyalike I said we were friends so I had met them prior to us starting to date um but yeah I did realize that in terms of especially how he was a great parent but we had differences in how I would personally handle things if they were my
04:29:02Brian Atlaskids or if we had kids together there would be a lot of issues there word uh would you date a single mom no I don't I don't think I would date a
04:29:12Brian Atlassingle mom nope I wouldn't wait so okay just to finish off our little point there so you said I was too sorry gotta spit these out
04:29:24Brian Atlasdon't look at me while I do yeah that was really uncomfortable you think I'm risk averse when it comes to dating yeah well and I wonder too do you want a
04:29:36Tasiatraditional woman do I want a tradition how many women are traditional though is the thing okay you know what you gotta try Brian
04:29:47Tasiaget on Bumble get on Bumble and set your location to different cities and go find you these women who aren't in La um well like the thing is right just one
04:29:59Brian Atlasother point with like not wanting to pay um a lot of a lot of people are dating multiple people and I've said this before countless times um one of my
04:30:12Brian Atlasone of the reasons I don't want to pay for a first date is I don't want to feel I don't want to be a sucker so like a lot of girls when they're single and a lot of guys move this way too they're like dating and sleeping with multiple people they're single they're hooking up
04:30:25Brian Atlaswith a person here hooking up with somebody there have three three four five people that they're [ __ ] or dating in rotation and it's like
04:30:36Brian AtlasI reserve I'm going to reserve that treatment to somebody who's loyal to me so you don't get girlfriend treatment until you're my girlfriend so if you're and like most I think going into a first
04:30:47Brian Atlasdate you kind of have to go in in 2023 like assuming this person's like could be [ __ ] multiple other people right now I would feel like a total sucker
04:30:57Brian Atlaspaying for a girl that just [ __ ] a guy the night before so
04:31:09Dariasure [ __ ] like two girls how do you get past them I don't even know like that's the whole point of you just starting to date somebody like it's not like privileged for me I I would like to meet a girl that's not
04:31:21Aubrymoving like that doesn't say or just don't date people who are you know dating and sleeping with multiple but how do you know because people be lying people you can still feel somebody out and like even how quickly they try to
04:31:34Brian Atlasadvance things with you you can tell sometimes plenty to know there's here's the thing though there are girls that the the their previous 20 sexual partners they [ __ ]
04:31:46Brian Atlason the first date and then they meet you and then they're like you know what I want a boyfriend I'm gonna try this out let's wait and then they make you wait
04:31:55Brian Atlasso it's not it's not necessarily an indicator that that they don't yeah to be fair with you Brian one sec she had something go ahead they see special you know you're
04:32:09Mandywait no it was something before I think you have the point oh like how do you get past that yeah how do you get past that past the whole my girlfriend so now I'm gonna be paying for all this I'm going to be taking her
04:32:22Mandyin there and you're going to be my parents but how do you get past that how do you how do you get there what does the transition look like from from like how do you how to start exclusive being decided you're having some trouble no uh
04:32:34Mandyyou well you said I'm not gonna treat you like my girlfriend until you're my girlfriend so do you just like treat them like a side until you're ready to be like hey yo I need to I need to know that you're not talking to other guys and you're just talking to me and that
04:32:47Mandywe're exclusive but how to how does she prove that to you like well it takes time right yeah but like what are the steps to like proving that to you like do I have to like give you my phone like my indicators
04:33:02Brian AtlasI think the girl has to be the one that broaches the exclusivity conversation okay so the girl has to be like a conversation yeah the girl has to be like will you be my boyfriend
04:33:20Brian Atlasa conversation the girl should should initiate do you think the girl should initiate I like not the guy no no no not asking out the guy but like you've been
04:33:29Priyadating and what what he wants you guys most of the time it is the woman I think a lot of I think a lot of men might perceive that to be a turn off and I think a lot of women well those men
04:33:40Jakedon't don't want to like give them the commitment yeah but if you really like the girl and like you've been like holding your like frame for a while totally and then she comes to you and she says like oh what are we and you've
04:33:52Nicoleheld out I think it's obvious at what at some point yeah you know yeah but if you're just if you're just like [ __ ] a girl and then she's like when are we it's like yeah yeah Ryan I don't know maybe I'm changing my mind here maybe I
04:34:03Nicolethink maybe okay this is I might experiment in just splitting the bill all the time because you know what if I split the bill then I feel like he will
04:34:13Nicolefeel that he has less he won't come on and try to turn things sexual so quickly like I feel like if I just split split split all the time
04:34:24TTSdonated 99 Brian number 80 brought a refreshing group of gals would love to talk to these ladies about life in general seem
04:34:35TTSchill Elizabeth bro on she's absolutely stunning if I had institied to her oh well love the show made this account you for you bro dude Chris Disney thank you very much
04:34:46Brian Atlasfor the uh TTS much appreciated man yeah 80 was a it was a good episode Elizabeth she was cool um thank you very much man much appreciated go ahead with your point I was just gonna say it might maybe it'll keep in the guy's mind like
04:34:58Nicolewe're friends only we're friends only and we'll keep them from trying things so quickly okay if I hold my if I don't allow him to be paying for me well there's okay there's two points there so
04:35:09Brian Atlasthere's definitely like scumbag dudes who feel entitled to sex if if they pay for you which I disagree with I think if you a lot of them there's guys like oh I bought you dinner like yeah that's
04:35:21Brian Atlasthat's really scummy if a guy has an expectation of sex um but the other thing is like they'll view it as a French I don't think like uh I mean like as long as it started off
04:35:31Nicolethe scummy guys like oh okay okay between a man and a woman no no I'm not saying platonic I'm not saying platonic no I don't have clothes
04:35:42Brian Atlasif you're on a date with a guy isn't it necessarily like if you're if you've gone if you've just gone on a date with a guy I don't think whether you split or not like removes the Romantic undertones
04:35:55Nicoleof no but if the guy's scummy because this is what I'm thinking it's like guys that go out and then they pay and then they think like oh I can try and come on to her or whatever you know and I I that makes me very uncomfortable
04:36:07Nicoleso I'm just saying I'm just saying maybe I'll experiment with splitting I don't know why you're fighting me on this I'm telling you maybe it's just
04:36:16Brian Atlasyour motives your motives I mean it would it would potentially counter the that cohort of men who feel entitled to
04:36:28Brian Atlassex because they've uh just paid for your for your dinner I think though that's really scummy Behavior it is like entitled because you've paid for a girl
04:36:37Brian Atlason a date but um so it could potentially fend those types of dudes off but um romantic um but uh yeah
04:36:49Tasiaso okay so wow I've changed your mind congrats Maybe but I mean I yeah I don't know wait yeah I'm still confused do you want
04:37:00Tasiaa traditional woman what do you mean okay so so do I want a woman with like a low body count who's like feminine and yeah yeah okay because I I feel like when you tell girls oh you're on only
04:37:13Tasiafans but you want a traditional guy doesn't make sense that's how I feel about you like you want a traditional woman but you won't take that role in the beginning yeah that's that's a fair point um because I think you're gonna push
04:37:25Brian Atlasaway a lot of really great traditional women who you would totally be into and vice versa sure however can we agree that the discrepancy between not wanting to pay on the first date
04:37:36Brian Atlaslike like the S let's say the social faux pas or the egregiousness of no offense to the girls here who do only
04:37:45Brian Atlasfans uh doing sex work is like way more non-traditional than the guy who just wants to split the bill like can we agree that that's skewing further away from tradition
04:37:57TasiaI don't think the tradition matters I think how much it can be a red flag in the same way a guy will shut down the body count a girl could very well shut down you based off that decision and I also think
04:38:10Brian Atlaslike there's just risks you have to take in dating and I think if you you know but I've already laid out the scenarios where like if she's in college and she is for
04:38:21Brian Atlasexample traditional uh and you know she's younger she's not making a ton of money then then I'm more obliged to pay for the first date however if your
04:38:31Priyaprofessional career woman I mean that in and of itself is kind of non-traditional okay I think I think it sounds like you've kind of just accepted like anybody that that's gonna weed out
04:38:43Priyaand turn off from from seeing you as a romantic partner you've kind of accepted that yeah you will and take it as a well I don't want to be with that person they're not right for me and I mean the other point the other thing that I would um point out when it comes to this is
04:38:56Brian Atlasthat um women who require Romance they're just not really that into you like because a girl will
04:39:07Brian Atlasso are you like a guy who's attractive enough you're not gonna be you even if he doesn't pay maybe if you're it's your preference that he pays if he's attractive enough to you if you
04:39:19Priyawant him bad enough that's not going to deter you but then like what do you expect a courtship to look like what do you mean like in terms of
04:39:31Priyagetting to know somebody when you first start dating what do you expect that to look like if there's not going to be any romance involved well I think you're like exaggerating the term romance a little too much like
04:39:43Brian Atlasno one's looking to like have rose petals laid out on the floor constantly when I say romance basically just I mean as the guy obviously paying for you know
04:39:53Priyaromantic overtures sure flowers gifts well those are things that you like especially the flowers and the gifts of course a lot of women appreciate that for myself I love flowers gifts I don't really care too much about but I'm a sucker for flowers you go on the first
04:40:06Aubrydate with a guy he shows up at the flowers that's too much depends you said that I think if I'm gonna oh well hold on it's too much see with a guy and he's pulling up with
04:40:17Brian Atlasflowers I think he's trying too hard if I exactly but that's why all this like romantic [ __ ] the like it's no longer appreciated on mass because as a guy
04:40:29Aubryyou're it's like 50 50 either the girl appreciates it or honestly more likely than not yeah something if a guy can show up and be himself it shows like if he shows up with flowers I'm wondering like okay is he trying to make up for
04:40:42Priyasomething that he feels like he lacks but why do you think that
04:40:52Jakethat's the norm in terms of like romance but in other countries like like I travel a lot and live in live in Europe quite a bit and in those countries women love that stuff yeah I mean it should be
04:41:03Aubrynice I guess it's just more so I mean it depends on the context of if you've met them previously if I met them in person I guess I'm thinking first date of like let's say it's off of a dating app let's say it's off of like a dating app if it's off a dating app and
04:41:16AubryI'm meeting them for the first person which I'm not even on dating are you on Farmers Only hypothetic Christian Mingle what do you want I'm not on anything I actually don't like dating apps there is
04:41:25Aubryexcuse me there is a dating app it's called Mutual Mutual literally yep it is just depends what is soaking is that what you know what I'm talking about is that are we really getting there oh I'm
04:41:37Aubrysorry is this Haram I'm sorry I heard it's a thing that's done okay I don't know it is a thing that's it's basically I don't know it sounds like a tiger it's just like a loophole
04:41:49Aubryit's not even I don't know it's just weird there's a lot of like guidelines I guess or okay you match with a dude he brings you flowers turn off I guess it's more so like I guess okay you're right it really just
04:42:02Jakejust comes down to how attractive he is at the end and also how confident he is as well because if he's a confident man and he does that and he's like dressed up nicely and he gives you flowers it's going to be like yeah it depends on so many factors they could
04:42:15Jakesweep me off their feet otherwise like or I could just be like oh yeah baby's giving you flowers like please please love me yeah maybe just had some experiences like that but flowers is like I don't think the flowers are the make you make or break
04:42:28Brian Atlasfast yeah that's that's what I was about to say like flowers is never going to be like it's never going to be a maker no and so what's the course but it is just an app okay so when
04:42:40Priyayou're when you're when you're when you're especially in the first terms of dating you of course like have this slow build up and it either obviously like like takes off or drastically declines and
04:42:53Priyayou stop dating that person but there are little things that somebody can do that slowly speed that process along if it was a guy that I had known previously as well if I'd met him even I
04:43:05Aubrymet him in public and he like yeah my phone number that way and we've been chatting like a little bit then I feel like that's a different situation from somebody that it's your very first time meeting them like a blind date type situational situation almost or like a
04:43:17Priyadating app yeah I still don't agree I think that like okay obviously in in the sense that we were just talking about if someone shows up super nervous and really unsure of themselves flowers aren't going to make or break that situation that's them but if somebody
04:43:29Priyashows up and is very confident and shows up with flowers whether it's the first time I'm meeting them or not I would absolutely appreciate that I agree with you on that but these days these days guys have to have to absolutely wait to
04:43:42Brian Atlasdo that sort of stuff I just want to ask why is it that you guys so fervently support a patriarchal traditional belief
04:43:52Brian Atlasthat men should pay for the first day I never said I never the patriarchy hello absolutely patriarchy kind of awesome
04:44:03TasiaI appreciate that you know what can I can I say to the flowers thing I think there's a real problem in our society with apathy in general but especially when it comes to dating it feels like a
04:44:15Jakecontest of who cares less about this relationship sure yeah absolutely that's true yeah it's an exclusively thing that's happening in the west though yeah
04:44:26Jakeguarantee like we have a very strange and sick dating culture absolutely over here and like like I said before we have to really wait before you give those gestures over here especially and even if you're somebody who appreciates romance you just can't take that chance
04:44:39Aubryanymore but if you do that in other countries then women will really really appreciate it from the jump so I think think because there's a lot of you have fear about like the love bombing thing I don't like it's trying to talk about that about just I discovered super
04:44:51Brian Atlasstrong and like you said it's just the culture out here like coming on super strong and like we're tracking like out of nowhere yeah romances we have to we have to get a couple of chats out of the
04:45:03Priyaway we also um Nick was so kind as to put pull up my Wick of feet um great looking forward to it oh God
04:45:12Priyaokay but let's go yeah go for it for free oh my gosh control mouse wheel up please I've never heard of this one
04:45:22Brian Atlasyeah okay so somebody made this [ __ ] look at my rating 4.4 out of five uh scroll down so I don't even know how they found some
04:45:34Aubryof these photos wait what is that who got that picture oh that's on my Instagram okay okay you're just asking did it to yourself
04:45:45Aubryso does anyone here have a foot fetish nope good thank God I'm okay with people touching my feet right how would you feel like you got into a relationship and the girlfriend
04:45:57Aubryasks you to take that picture down because your feet are out yeah
04:46:04Brian Atlasdo you think that would be controlling because your feet are all what like they look too good no because a foot fetish like the the term fetish it's like uh I think it's in something like abnormal that someone's attracted to yeah so like
04:46:17Brian Atlasthere's nothing inherently sexual about feet so like for a girl to ask me to remove I can't believe I'm analyzing this one ridiculous question yes that is a joke too yeah I'm glad you're going no
04:46:27Brian Atlasbut it but it would be like no that that's well first off I I think men and women operate differently so like I don't think even if I had thirst traps on my
04:46:38Brian AtlasInstagram I think men and women's experiences on social media is very very Madison what are you doing come over come over you know what uh what are you eating
04:46:51Brian Atlaspopcorn hella mint you're eating tasting you know how many calories that has that has there's no caloric you want some popcorn girl what's up
04:47:02Brian Atlastake mine here you go on camera so they can see all right someone's got a popcorn that's gonna be somebody's fetish now
04:47:14Brian Atlasthe attention men and women receive online is so vastly different so like I think it's it's probably pretty reasonable for a guy to to ask his girl to not post certain types of pictures but it doesn't really make sense for a
04:47:26Brian Atlasgirl to ask the same because like guys really not posting like sexualized photos on themselves the majority of them are not the majority of them aren't and uh and just the sheer amount of
04:47:38Brian Atlasattention that that women get versus men is like astoundingly different yeah so like you can take an average girl with like a thousand followers on Instagram and she's like she's getting DMS she's
04:47:49Brian Atlasgetting offers to be flown out like so um so whereas most men even attractive men are not really getting DMS by chicks maybe occasionally but men really don't
04:48:02Aubryget that degree of attention so absolutely there's a differential there so and a lot of that just has to do with the fact that like men I mean men are typically the ones who do initiate women and if it's the
04:48:14Brian Atlasother way around I think women should be simps though so I'm like I have a very honestly not a lot of people know how to to handle that oh it's great like the [ __ ] chicks all over you like simping it's wonderful yeah it's crazy
04:48:31AubryI'm curious how everybody feels about that because I don't know how how it differs Now versus like throughout time a little bit but the idea of like women um like women asking for a man's phone number like kind of initiating more of
04:48:44Brian Atlasthat or kind of being like considered forward sometimes like how do you guys I guess we don't want a girl to be aggressive about it but you can still you can still show interest you can still take initiative but do so in like a kind of a feminine what's aggressive
04:48:57AubryI've heard I just heard like it's more so like women like or they they set the guy up to be in the position to move it forward versus like the woman yes yeah for two seconds and then
04:49:25Jakeno no that's fine if she slides into your DMs that's fine but if she does it once every three days then that's different you know I think it's annoying but but if you've made the initial contact and if you've gone on a date and
04:49:37Aubrythen she simps on you after that it's glorious okay so how about it if it's them sliding into your DMs like a friendlier approach as in like it's like oh just like catch them to be friends yeah this is like hey like I think
04:49:49Jakeyou're attractive let's go out like how does that differ is that too much then for a woman to say like hey no because if she does if she does that then I think that she's doing that to a lot of other guys too I think it's like it's a little too much it's a process you know if she's that forward with me then I'm
04:50:03Brian Atlaslike okay well then she's obviously afforded everyone else but if she but if it feels exclusive and if it feels like a little bit more rare then that'll be different also anything like overtly sexual like if she's like yo let me suck
04:50:15Brian Atlasthat dick relax relax
04:50:32Jakelike which you had a good day yeah you know that and also like when when you're just around just the two of you at home and she always got her hands on you like I know I keep bringing it back but European girls are great like that they're very affectionate even like if