HEATED DEBATE w/ Destiny! OBNOXIOUS Feminist KICKED OUT! | Dating Talk #75

Date: 2023-05-17

Duration: 5h 19m

Guests

Brian Atlas

DDestiny (Streamer)>

MMolina Jorenson >

PPixie (DT130)>

BBilly Ray (DT101)>

JJonathan (MLD)>

CChase (DT118)>

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00TTS/Donations(audience)

SPEAKER_01Chase(guest)

SPEAKER_02Aaron(guest)

SPEAKER_03Pixie(guest)

SPEAKER_04John Doyle(guest)

SPEAKER_05Jonathan (MLD)(guest)

SPEAKER_06Destiny's Sister(guest)

SPEAKER_07Kiki(host)

SPEAKER_08Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_09Destiny(guest)

SPEAKER_10Nev(guest)

SPEAKER_11Billy Ray(guest)

SPEAKER_12Mary Morgan(guest)

SPEAKER_13Molina(guest)

Key Moments

ControversyAaron repeatedly refuses to answer whether she is a virgin despite panel and audience pressure, deflecting with philosophical questions about the definition of virginity.

“Have you had sex? 'What does it mean to be a virgin?' Repeated for 15+ minutes.”

QuoteDestiny states Destiny endorses whatever podcast as his most-donated-to YouTube channel.

“SPEAKER_09 (0:00:35): 'You're my favorite YouTube... that's true, that's the one I've donated the most.'”

QuoteChase discloses he became abstinent in 2020, citing biblical conviction and desire to honor God.

“SPEAKER_01: 'I made the decision to be abstinent... because I knew it was a sin against my own body... and I wanted God to reward me in turn for that and quite honestly he has.'”

ControversyBrian asks Aaron directly why she came on the show and whether she is acting in bad faith.

“SPEAKER_08: 'Why did you come on tonight?' Aaron: 'To have a discussion.' Brian: 'If you liked the show you would actually be good faith.'”

ControversyAaron is asked to leave the show after prolonged bad-faith engagement and refusal to answer the virginity question.

“Chase: 'Kindly, I'm asking you to leave.' Aaron: 'I drove all the way to this city so I'm here.' Brian kicks her off.”

QuoteDestiny's critique of Andrew Tate: materialistic message and alleged sex trafficking.

“SPEAKER_09: 'I wish that when we talked about delivering like purpose to young men it wasn't wrapped up in such a materialistic package...'”

QuoteDestiny argues men need to incorporate feminine traits (emotional intelligence) the same way women have incorporated masculine traits into their success.

“SPEAKER_09: 'Women have incorporated successfully a lot of aspects of masculinity into their character... men have basically they're kind of still masculine but we haven't worked on rounding out how men navigate the world'”

QuoteMLD introduces his 'Core Four' framework for men: make money, make muscles, learn game, hold frame.

“SPEAKER_05: 'I tell guys... the core four which is make money make muscles learn game and hold frame.'”

QuoteDestiny argues the difference between the two sides: 'It feels like on our side we're talking about relationships like they're meant to be enjoyed and you guys are talking about relationships like they're meant to be endured.'

“SPEAKER_09: 'It feels like on our side we're talking about relationships like they're meant to be enjoyed and you guys are talking about relationships like they're meant to be endured.'”

QuoteJohn Doyle argues men's suicide rates are high because they see no way out rather than just being unhappy.

“SPEAKER_04: 'Women experience depression in a much more environmental sense... men experience depression when there's no way out of that environment... that's why we just kill ourselves.'”

Topics Discussed

Guest introductions and relationship statuses

Guests introduce themselves: name, age, occupation. Brian asks relationship statuses. Destiny and Molina disclose open/poly marriage. Aaron's evasiveness about dating history begins.

Open relationships and polyamory debate

Destiny and Molina discuss their open relationship. Panelists debate monogamy vs polyamory, cuckoldry in red-pill culture, whether sexual exclusivity is essential to marriage.

Feminism debate: patriarchy, oppression, and women's roles

Feminist guests (Aaron, Pixie) vs conservative guests on whether women are oppressed, definition of patriarchy, sexual double standards, Only Fans and employment.

Self-ratings and audience super chats

Guests rate themselves on appearance (1-10 scale). Destiny: 10, Chase: 6.9, Billy: 10, John Doyle: 7, MLD: 9, Nev: 6, Mary: 6.

Aaron kicked off the show

After prolonged bad-faith engagement and refusal to answer the virginity question, Brian and panel vote to remove Aaron. Aaron leaves at approximately 2:20.

Andrew Tate discussion

Destiny explains why he dislikes Andrew Tate: materialistic message, alleged sex trafficking, selling spiritually bankrupt path to success. MLD and Chase push back and defend Tate's impact.

Men's crisis and how to support men

Panel debates what men need: Destiny advocates emotional intelligence and feminine balance; MLD pitches Core Four framework; John Doyle argues for return to enforced masculinity and gender roles.

Marriage, divorce, and premarital sex

Chase argues for abstinence until marriage; Destiny counters sexual compatibility matters. Divorce rates, feminist initiation of divorce, virgin marriage statistics discussed.

Fatherlessness, single-mother households, and societal decline

Billy Ray shares prison tutoring experience. Panel discusses fatherless homes leading to crime. Debate over whether abusive marriages should be endured.

Closing statements and sign-offs

Each guest gives closing thoughts. MLD announces upcoming YouTube tour stops. John Doyle advocates return to Jesus. Chase thanks guests.

Transcript

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Chase10 000 likes right now fam uh seven Brian is bringing you guys free content every freaking week multiple times every week smash that like button support support our boy Brian come on this guy

Chaseup here he was upstairs fighting for his life a couple years ago and now he's back here okay come on I just sacrificing life and limb to bring you guys entertainment support this man yes it is uh

Brian Atlasit is uh there's there's a lot of physical okay all of us yeah you'll be fine appreciate it appreciate it uh Archduke Franz

Destiny's SisterFerdinand what you got for us um this was a really great podcast out of all the ones I've been here for this is a really good good one oh you guys did a great job wait Who Who Are You

Destinyis she like a is she related to someone here or is it she's my sister oh yeah wait I can't stop your [ __ ] with me or not no like we're related yeah it's like

Brian Atlasyou're right hello full blood both parents

Nevwe're also related apparently so yeah we absolutely are we're all original should I just like bro your parents are related [Laughter]

Brian Atlasoh my God Chase would never settle for a I don't know where I'm going no no leave me alone leave me alone stop that's a big L for your boyfriend for you to be whispering

Brian Atlasbro you're with it doesn't [ __ ] matter she has a boyfriend she's got a [ __ ] boyfriend can we get Epson chat this is motivation for the boyfriend no

Brian Atlasbreak up with her right break up everybody said he was handsome all he said was he was yeah that's a that's a big L it's over that's a big L for the [ __ ] boyfriend you can't be whispering on the podcast 20 000 people the Next Generation

John Doylethat it was a joke it's a joke this is what this is what I'll say this is what I'll say my girlfriend who had a background in dancing dance with another guy there might be a Stern conversation but if she were on a podcast whispering

Brian Atlas[Music] [Laughter]

Brian Atlasand like fixing your freaking neck bro there's not much I can do man I'm in physical therapy but we tried acupuncture yet I have and I should try it I've heard amazing things um

Chaseyo I thought religious chronic lyme disease acupuncture I dude I I thought I look I will give you that on the acupuncture thing I thought it was BS I've heard from like a half dozen people they tried it and they were like due to

Brian Atlaschange my life so be free chat be free the chat is now off of members only mode be free if you guys want um anything else

Brian Atlascan you please apologize to your boyfriend oh you legit [ __ ] said that you should bring it or bring him home Bro you've been I [ __ ] the [ __ ] out of

NevChase the entire shows he's too old for me I [ __ ] oh my God

John DoyleBilly please I said it was a joke bro I I watched that video I don't know if there's like a miscommunication we didn't say paused oh stopped we said over it's over it's done

Brian Atlaswe're not coming there's always the man of God we deserve Destiny yeah yeah thank you man TTS is at 69 if any of you mad Mad Men want to get a last

Brian Atlasminute thing in here uh guys we're almost at 10K well we're 2000 away from 10K likes if you can drop a like please on the video um do we do the Patrice clip no I don't think so that's overplayed um

Brian Atlasfeminism is cancer hello based clearly based clearly true I'm just trying to get like a little last minute back feminism is the cancer that killed my grandpa what the feminism is the beautiful thing that allowed all the

Destinylovely young ladies to be on this podcast today so thank you I'm glad we got there I appreciate everything Mary Nev um Billy pixie Billy and pixie how to

John Doylesay emelina my lovely wife if you want like a last minute like influx of donors we have to give out like our most controversial take that is still TOS friendly

ChaseI was a Catholic we did a lot of kneeling okay oh here here okay how about this I think taking dicks in the ass from other guys is kind of gay but true but only one of us here tonight

Jonathan (MLD)yo you just got you just got roasted also I'm not a part of whatever he just described but he's still but Brian still hasn't sucked dick and you have so um

Jonathan (MLD)it was a big thing there's a big no there's no dick sucking on one side and dick sucking on the other so anyway I'm just defending Brian because he can't stop I'm just trying to get the [ __ ] out of here okay Frank

John DoyleCastle I'm going for what's your most controversial taste I got two so I got two the idea I don't wanna I don't wanna carry that cross right now here I got it

Brian Atlasokay I got two I got two not in this uh I recommend men don't go down on women all right eating them out yeah no no no

Brian Atlasthat's gay pretty much no that's [ __ ] based as [ __ ] eating [ __ ] is gay what how many years wait what was the second hot take the second outtake is uh men should not pay

Destinyon first dates wow wow oh my God 50 50. pay all up front the guy that's not even gonna go down on her that's bass that's pretty Giga I

Brian Atlaswould pay for my split the check what is what I mean split the check oh that's not even a hot tape bro come on out that's the norm oh guys super hot feminist take women should be able to

TTS/Donationsvote that's the norm though in uh dude come on Brian Brian that's that's the norm in Tokyo in Japan it's split I've got one first date Dutch feminists

John Doyledonated seventy dollars great raw dog podcast and shout out to all wrong I don't think that this is the solution but I think it makes far more sense than what we're doing now in terms of

John Doyleincarceration how our criminal justice system works I'm sure all of you familiar with certain loyalty programs at coffee shops wherever you get a punch card right you know your eighth punch card you get like a free coffee or something like that I think it makes

John Doylemore sense than what we're doing now to like upon your eighth felony arrest you just get executed by the officer on site

John Doylebricks and eating Smiley catfish oh Devon I disagree with you on this one Washington the average person who is like arrested for a violent offense has been arrested not for violent defenses but just in

John Doylegeneral 11 times prior all of the people we have right now that are locked up in prison for the rest of their lives I'm not talking about people where it's ambiguous they still get convicted it's obvious we have DNA fashion video it's still a burden it's like translating the

John Doyleburden from being on the public and safety and things like that so now it's a burden on our tax dollars sucking out of the system these people do not deserve to be alive so so how do you so yeah so hot take how do you what is the

Jonathan (MLD)legislation on the execution is it like 45 caliber straight in the brain or two in the chest how does that work yeah shooter people they can get like you know so how are we killing them this is an

Destinyimportant questions you guys are really trying to yeah

Chase23 70 bucks he said Mr Doyle when are you doing the ice cream video also you should do a video about whether Zeppelins are inherently left-wing wait hold on let me answer this question with a question in homage to our friend who

Destinydeparted what is your favorite flavor of ice cream destiny not precisely but she's really boring because the answer is going to be the best the best chocolate chip cookie

John Doyleit is chocolate chip cookie though okay that's interesting the idea with that is I made some comments I think in a video actually about the geography that's uh vanilla ice cream is inherently right wing because it exists you know as vanilla it's in its natural state it doesn't have these additives to enhance

John Doyleit for you to generates who have eroded your dopamine receptors so you can't perceive vanilla as good as you know these other flavors did you take any pills today and no I didn't I didn't take any Zen anything like that oh my

John DoyleGod but it's also I think it's interesting medicine typically vanilla is used as a buzzword like oh that's so vanilla that's so Bland they use this to describe anything that maybe people on this side of the table with regard to be sacred or good and I think that's just

John Doyledestructive to tell people that they always need to like chase this Dragon of novelty and Variety in order to get enjoyment out of life which is why I

TTS/Donationslike it change my answer to Rocky Roads entire personality no heck off can't we accept when it comes to sharing someone

TTS/Donationselse's entire on screen Persona next time feel a sense of humor too can you restart that I said you stole Nick Fuentes you stole Nick Fuentes his personality where is Nick Fuentes

John Doylepersonality give it back that's like obviously not true I mean and the thing is it's like his audience are like these Zoomers

John Doylething you know it's like the Donald Trump you know the way he talks and a lot of places yeah no it's the way we talk the way we gesticulate all of these young Zoomer content creators are all trying to mimic Donald Trump to be funny like that's like what that is

John Doyleum in terms of like being a young right-wing Catholic male I didn't know that there was like a monopoly in them like this fight yeah but the difference is not you talk fight girl the death

Brian AtlasI got in trouble for that recently actually but yeah oh my God no I can't I can't it's like The Dark Knight yeah we've been trying to get you on the show I mean that's on you but who's who bro

Brian Atlaswe gotta bring in Schaefer Meister we've been trying though Ryan that's my boys okay you gotta bring them in all right I'm trying to I feel like I'm forgetting something but uh it's available

John Doylesaid John Doyle for president okay for vice president president why would you burden us with checks and balances that's such a that's worse than marriage I mean come on but yeah cool all right um anyways guys last call hit that like

Brian Atlasbutton please on your way out get us to 10 000 likes please really would really appreciate it big thank you for tuning in tonight you could have been anywhere in the world but you're here with me I appreciate that thank you to everyone who super chats and supports the show the uh support tonight was really

Brian Atlasoverwhelming thank you guys uh so much for your patronage big thank you to the uh wonderful panel uh tonight you guys were awesome it was a very Lively conversation Destiny thank you so much for uh coming all the way from uh

Brian AtlasFlorida much and well everyone else for coming from all your respective uh geographic regions yeah you're Brian can I say something

Chasereal quick yeah guys if you guys liked this stream throw a w in the chat and also smash the like button to support Brian please thank you guys thank you and uh I just want to see oh uh wait

Brian Atlaswhat was your hot take you should do a hot take oh yeah Mexican food is not good bro dude

Destinyokay have you ever been to a [ __ ] Ikea she's literally Swedish okay I barely have eatable edible food over there okay okay I'll say Swedish food sucks okay it's really bad Ikea food's good though no it's not nice

John Doylecan you please go back to your trailer no it's not that's a real hot take right there liking Mexican food is just like a cultural psyop to placate people on demographic change that's right absolutely absolutely the queso at

ChaseChipotle okay we're good all right we have two soups we got two soup shots oh my gosh oh my God totally believe me you said red pills say wives control 80 of the household income but then say that women get

Chasedivorced for financial reasons maybe for the ultra Ultra Rich no shot for the average marriage facts facts it's Molina's Melina's problem for buying toilet paper got it next you want to read it yeah the fact that happiness

Destinymetric is segregated using socioeconomic slash cultural numbers is BS for example the happiness levels in in India are far higher

Destinyfar higher than happiness levels in the USA the fact of the matter is that all of these are intertwined which has to do with Traditional Values that exist in the culture based true based all right

Brian Atlasand then Savvy thank you for the uh what currencies that's rupees that's Indian rupees and uh Schaefer Meister 100 looking forward to it boys let's go let's get you on with the invite's been

Brian Atlasthere come on Jordan I'll text you let's let's uh get it scheduled okay sweet and uh oh I just wanted to say one other thing oh

Brian Atlasmy God MLD number one MLD number one MLB number one

Brian Atlasum just really quick on everyone just to thank thank you to everyone who uh supported the show your patronage really does not go to the waste I try to reinvest the money I make back into the podcast we just bought a five thousand

Brian Atlasdollar computer uh a thousand dollars for a new audio mixer we got five new microphones 400 a pop these sm7vs um and I'm not like trying to ball out I

Brian Atlasgot one car I bought it 10 years ago Toyota in 2013. I wear Costco sweatpants five dollar t-shirts 20 flannels so I'm not trying to ball out like I really do try to like reinvest your patronage back

Brian Atlasinto the show and uh okay we have uh let's see oh uh any women who want to be on the show you have to DM at BD underscore Atlas because our whatever Instagram thing is scuffed it's bugged

Brian AtlasI'm trying to contact Instagram it's nearly impossible um anyways guys we will be live again Sunday at 7 p.m Pacific we have Pearl from just pearly things she's gonna be

Brian AtlasDestiny's favorite Creator not just his favorite uh we have we have a couple cool uh other guests coming so be sure to tune into that and then Tuesday we have another good show too so uh some really good solid guests on the way so

Brian Atlasyes Sunday 7 P.M Pacific is our next show that's it for tonight guys thank you guys once again so much for tuning in have a good night oh Madison final thought let's should we say it I already said

Brian Atlasmy final oh you did yeah okay all right I just want to say thank you for all the support in the chat you guys I really appreciate it costs more than his clothes hello okay um yeah we'll see you next time oops Jesus Christ we'll see you next time

Brian Atlasgood night guys good night

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