HEATED DEBATE w/ Destiny! OBNOXIOUS Feminist KICKED OUT! | Dating Talk #75

Date: 2023-05-17

Duration: 5h 19m

Guests

Brian Atlas

DDestiny (Streamer)>

MMolina Jorenson >

PPixie (DT130)>

BBilly Ray (DT101)>

JJonathan (MLD)>

CChase (DT118)>

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00TTS/Donations(audience)

SPEAKER_01Chase(guest)

SPEAKER_02Aaron(guest)

SPEAKER_03Pixie(guest)

SPEAKER_04John Doyle(guest)

SPEAKER_05Jonathan (MLD)(guest)

SPEAKER_06Destiny's Sister(guest)

SPEAKER_07Kiki(host)

SPEAKER_08Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_09Destiny(guest)

SPEAKER_10Nev(guest)

SPEAKER_11Billy Ray(guest)

SPEAKER_12Mary Morgan(guest)

SPEAKER_13Molina(guest)

Key Moments

ControversyAaron repeatedly refuses to answer whether she is a virgin despite panel and audience pressure, deflecting with philosophical questions about the definition of virginity.

“Have you had sex? 'What does it mean to be a virgin?' Repeated for 15+ minutes.”

QuoteDestiny states Destiny endorses whatever podcast as his most-donated-to YouTube channel.

“SPEAKER_09 (0:00:35): 'You're my favorite YouTube... that's true, that's the one I've donated the most.'”

QuoteChase discloses he became abstinent in 2020, citing biblical conviction and desire to honor God.

“SPEAKER_01: 'I made the decision to be abstinent... because I knew it was a sin against my own body... and I wanted God to reward me in turn for that and quite honestly he has.'”

ControversyBrian asks Aaron directly why she came on the show and whether she is acting in bad faith.

“SPEAKER_08: 'Why did you come on tonight?' Aaron: 'To have a discussion.' Brian: 'If you liked the show you would actually be good faith.'”

ControversyAaron is asked to leave the show after prolonged bad-faith engagement and refusal to answer the virginity question.

“Chase: 'Kindly, I'm asking you to leave.' Aaron: 'I drove all the way to this city so I'm here.' Brian kicks her off.”

QuoteDestiny's critique of Andrew Tate: materialistic message and alleged sex trafficking.

“SPEAKER_09: 'I wish that when we talked about delivering like purpose to young men it wasn't wrapped up in such a materialistic package...'”

QuoteDestiny argues men need to incorporate feminine traits (emotional intelligence) the same way women have incorporated masculine traits into their success.

“SPEAKER_09: 'Women have incorporated successfully a lot of aspects of masculinity into their character... men have basically they're kind of still masculine but we haven't worked on rounding out how men navigate the world'”

QuoteMLD introduces his 'Core Four' framework for men: make money, make muscles, learn game, hold frame.

“SPEAKER_05: 'I tell guys... the core four which is make money make muscles learn game and hold frame.'”

QuoteDestiny argues the difference between the two sides: 'It feels like on our side we're talking about relationships like they're meant to be enjoyed and you guys are talking about relationships like they're meant to be endured.'

“SPEAKER_09: 'It feels like on our side we're talking about relationships like they're meant to be enjoyed and you guys are talking about relationships like they're meant to be endured.'”

QuoteJohn Doyle argues men's suicide rates are high because they see no way out rather than just being unhappy.

“SPEAKER_04: 'Women experience depression in a much more environmental sense... men experience depression when there's no way out of that environment... that's why we just kill ourselves.'”

Topics Discussed

Guest introductions and relationship statuses

Guests introduce themselves: name, age, occupation. Brian asks relationship statuses. Destiny and Molina disclose open/poly marriage. Aaron's evasiveness about dating history begins.

Open relationships and polyamory debate

Destiny and Molina discuss their open relationship. Panelists debate monogamy vs polyamory, cuckoldry in red-pill culture, whether sexual exclusivity is essential to marriage.

Feminism debate: patriarchy, oppression, and women's roles

Feminist guests (Aaron, Pixie) vs conservative guests on whether women are oppressed, definition of patriarchy, sexual double standards, Only Fans and employment.

Self-ratings and audience super chats

Guests rate themselves on appearance (1-10 scale). Destiny: 10, Chase: 6.9, Billy: 10, John Doyle: 7, MLD: 9, Nev: 6, Mary: 6.

Aaron kicked off the show

After prolonged bad-faith engagement and refusal to answer the virginity question, Brian and panel vote to remove Aaron. Aaron leaves at approximately 2:20.

Andrew Tate discussion

Destiny explains why he dislikes Andrew Tate: materialistic message, alleged sex trafficking, selling spiritually bankrupt path to success. MLD and Chase push back and defend Tate's impact.

Men's crisis and how to support men

Panel debates what men need: Destiny advocates emotional intelligence and feminine balance; MLD pitches Core Four framework; John Doyle argues for return to enforced masculinity and gender roles.

Marriage, divorce, and premarital sex

Chase argues for abstinence until marriage; Destiny counters sexual compatibility matters. Divorce rates, feminist initiation of divorce, virgin marriage statistics discussed.

Fatherlessness, single-mother households, and societal decline

Billy Ray shares prison tutoring experience. Panel discusses fatherless homes leading to crime. Debate over whether abusive marriages should be endured.

Closing statements and sign-offs

Each guest gives closing thoughts. MLD announces upcoming YouTube tour stops. John Doyle advocates return to Jesus. Chase thanks guests.

Transcript

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Chaseit's Android versus iPhone oh isn't it oh keep hitting super chats yeah if you're on the Beto Papa hanyan thank you for the 100 bucks bro he said having Chase and Mary together and observing their energy and mindset is like walking

Destinyin heaven with Adam and Eve keep it up also Mary do you have a sister no only all right we have uh thank you DJ talk VAR here thank you man um Brian been watching for a while and

DestinyI'm hooked I used to live in SLO which is some City I don't know San Luis Obispo yeah but move to America for the is SLO not in America where is that call me fornia it's like an hour north of here okay I used to live in SLL

Destinymoved to America for the 2A rights hashtag call me for me why did he move to [ __ ] California for second amendment rights would love to see these dating Dynamics nowadays in California shout out Chase uh MLD Mary put these

Destinyclowns away I don't want to share our oxygen with them you want to fire back at that yeah fire back Destiny why is he living in California because we're second member rights that's the real question good and by the way oh he says he's

Chasesaying he used to live in San Luis Obispo but he moved to real America for the Second Amendment rights uh for this this one's for you Destiny man trying to pinpoint it exactly but there's something seriously wrong in the

Destinyhead with his Destiny guy and the beard beside him and then you have this wannabe grease ball MLD what does MLB mean oh that's true okay L panel you're a

Kikirose among Thorns bring back the alphas Waller and Sterling hey thanks Mike Davis appreciate that man Waller kind of got dragged a little bit recently a little bit oh I saw those Twitter Clips

Brian Atlaswith the lady with but with Leland he got dragged all over Twitter oh no Justin Waller is gonna be A-Okay viral clip or not it was pretty nice thank you for the Australian man yo

Brian AtlasChase from the land down under we respect you you are the Lord's Warrior boy thanks mate appreciate it bro Milky Way Moses thank you for the hundred man uh JC you want to read this one yeah he says Destiny and Chase

Chasequestion you both give great advice thank you Destiny I enjoy being my good kind-hearted self during my degenerate life I got many women but now I'm better ish and they ignore

Chaseuh Chase I'm tempted to go back to church how do you control sexual Temptation do you want to address his comment first don't control it yeah that is like alcohol video games whatever hobby you've partaken there are

Destinyhealthy ways to indulge in certain hobbies and there are unhealthy ways to indulge right if talking to people hooking up with something you enjoy just make sure you're safe make sure you're not like throwing away your life to do it make sure that you're you know keeping the rest of your life in order while you're pursuing those things same

Chasething I would say with drinking or gambling or anything else it says he was also asking me here's what I'll tell you brother the reason why I started being absent back in 2020 I saw the way that the

Chaseworld was going it's my opinion that biblical prophecies are shaping up to be fulfilled right now and I I made the decision to be abstinent to stop having sex with my girlfriend at the time because I knew it was a sin against my own body against her body and against

Chasethe Lord and I also knew that I wanted to secure God's favor over my life I wanted to honor God with my life and I wanted God to reward me in turn for that and quite honestly he has man in Spades so I would I would just encourage you

Chaseseek to honor the Lord with your life pray to him for where it is that you want to go in life what it is that you want Jesus promised us in John chapter 15 if we pray for something in his name and it's to the father's Glory he will give it to us and you see throughout the

ChaseBible there's a precedent when people seek to honor the Lord with their lives God is is much more likely to answer their prayers so that's what I would tell you Big W for God can I add something hold on let's let's keep it moving Mike Davis is a little blank on

Brian Atlasfnf talking trash and when they talk back he threatens them in exposing but never does that's some whack-ish Mike Dubai I'll fight you in place of Destiny I

Nevwill fight you and place a destiny Mike Davis you gotta fire back at que on the essay what did you want to add I just wanted to say like as someone who does practice abstinence as a virgin I do agree because it's helped me read a lot

Nevof bad people out because like yes a lot of people have the wrong intentions when you first meet them and they immediately want sex out of you and when you do that when you hook up with them like the first few times you you know get with

Destinythem it's like they already see that you're I mean there's pros and cons to everything though right because I I would argue I'll probably have huge discounts here but I would argue that like men that are hunting virgins sometimes they're looking for people that they can exploit

Destinyas well right yeah certainly yeah I think it's I do think it is good and I would argue um to some men's Chagrin I think that if you're a woman and you're looking for a serious relationship how you treat sex has to be done in a very careful way

Destinybecause you because if you're [ __ ] a guy in the first date it's really hard to figure out like who's serious and who's just like trying to play or whatever right like I'll hear some guys say like oh this chick didn't want to [ __ ] until the fifth or sixth date I'm [ __ ] out of there and I was like okay well you were never in her like dating pool anyway because that's what she's looking for so I think that having some

Jonathan (MLD)reasonable access to sex is like okay if you're looking for something more serious for sure you should probably build on that too on like how guys looking for conservative decent women these women are not gonna give it up on

Destinythe first second or third date yeah but I don't think guys here are ever looking for conservative women they're looking for hoes with low body accounts so sick guys and the red pill nanoster space you are not here's the thing I'll give you and I've come from religious communities and this is true and I don't know who

Destinywill disagree in here some there are some people that are on massive cope from like the Tate industry that that disagree with this if you're a if you are a concern if you're a guy and you've ran through 20 30 40 women the types of conservative women that you talk about are never going to want to be with you

Destinyand I know that we have some disagrams on do women care about body count blah blah blah if you're looking for a conservative one she's not going to be with a guy that wanted to be a [ __ ] boy throughout all of his 20s it's not going to happen but I think it would be so

Jonathan (MLD)I'll I'll push back slightly on that and saying that I think it would be a larger disqualifier for a man looking at a woman who has a large body count then a woman certainly a man who has a large

Brian Atlasbody count certainly I don't know I think Destiny we have your girlfriends in the chat thank you hold on is she wearing glasses with no lenses on that's the most important question right now

ChaseI want to add add something on Nev to what you were saying if if this is my advice to all marriage-minded women out there okay to your point if you're a woman and you want to get married and you want to find

Chasea guy who wants to marry you who you will have a good marriage with one of the best things that a young woman in your shoes can do is tell the guy yeah I'm gonna wait until marriage to have sex because a guy who's truly interested

Chasein you for who you are and who loves you as a person and and wants to spend the rest of their life with you they're going to be cool with waiting until marriage to have sex now there's going to be some guys out there there's going to be some guys out there that are like hey I want to test drive the vehicle

Destinybefore I purchase it right that's a really negative way to say it intentionally so yeah I know but like sex is a really important part of a relationship it would [ __ ] suck to marry somebody and then realize you guys are totally sick but you can but there's also there's also ways to go about

Chasehaving that conversation before actually getting married yeah

ChaseI mean look I'm gonna be honest like like in in the the stage of my life where I'm at where I'm looking for a wife like I can I can hell speaking to a woman having conversations with her like there's an energy exchange you

Chaseabsolutely cannot tell if you're myself yes I can there's there's a there's an energy okay maybe if your standards for good sex are really low come on no you've never met a girl oh wait hold on hold on Destiny yes it comes down to

Chasechemistry honestly it comes down to chemistry I can I've had girlfriends in the past where like I I could tell based on the energy exchange that we were going to have a good sexual relationship and I was I was 100 correct when it happened you never know that I've met

Molinathat I've had like really really like like when we were hanging out like in public really really strong chemistry and the sex was horrible the worst I've ever ever had why should sexual chemistry Define the entire relationship I didn't say it should but there are

Destinythings that can be part of there are things that can be like an unnecessary part meaning it needs to be there but it's not sufficient it's not the whole relationship so there are a lot of different things so for instance like good hygiene is not the only thing a relationship is about but bad hygiene might be uh and like an end point of a

Destinyrelationship right yeah which is why I think you should wait because then you get to appreciate the qualities in a person more no I said you can't appreciate but what I'm saying is that like there's some level of sexual experience that you can bring to the table in a relationship and there's some level of like sexual enjoyment that

Jonathan (MLD)you're not going to know about until you've already sealed the deal on getting married that might be a deal breaker further on like further relations but I agree with his point that he's saying like come on because you've sometimes you've like felt a girl like dude this girl and me like we [ __ ] want each other I've [ __ ]

Destinyenough women at this point to know that I never ever ever assume how good she's going to be in bed because I've had my mind blown with how bad some people are and with how good some people fair play but you have felt like that kind of sexual tension like in a positive

Destinynot to take away like the Mystique of it but like sex is a skill that you practice it's an attitude that you come in with it and it's a deliberate Improvement if you want to get better at it yeah right so just like having chemistry I've had like hardcore chemistry with some people and then I have some of the most awkward [ __ ]

Destinythey're trying to move while you're trying to [ __ ] their mouth is toothy as [ __ ] when they're giving head they're like there's all sorts of like weird [ __ ] happening um just chemistry alone you can communicate about that in order to yeah

Destinythe point what if you get with a girl and then you get married and then you find out after she's like I don't believe in oral sex I don't have that conversation

Destinyyou could but you don't know if that's going to be the case because you might say like oh yeah that sounds like it'd be really fun and then she tries it the first time your honeymoon night and she's like oh this isn't fun I don't like this yeah I mean I think I think with sufficient communication you can overcome that hurdle and to go back to

Chasewhat we were saying a second ago look I've slept with seven women every single one like I could feel the energy exchange and I already had an idea of what it was going to be like to be with them I was right with every single one of them so like I think if you look the autistic people like it's going to be a

Chaselittle bit more difficult because it's hard to like read the energy and stuff but like with that aside you know if you can read the person well you do have super disagree but yeah I think he's

Molinaalso slept with more women than you have too he's probably a chill

Jonathan (MLD)with someone that has to be has to be like you just know it unless you're autistic but I think there's like a general positive indicator of him being right like you can kind of meet yeah

John DoyleI agree with Destiny saying I agree with Destiny's saying like a sense because you brought it up that Stephen has more experience than he does who do

John Doyleyou think would be better at sex right now Stephen or chase I have no idea

Molinaif you had chemistry with someone in bed or a versus like when you before you slept with them because it is the case like if you had a lot of experience and you know that the case could be that you have a lot of chemistry uh at work but

Destinythen in bed it's like super super awful right I think I think also I will say too the originals but I will say that question is really revealing okay the five best sexual partners that I've had in my life were all the people that are

Destinyin the long-term relationships with some of the worst sexual experience I've had in my life were people that I started off right my first serious girlfriend in high school when we started off we were both [ __ ] virgins okay it was the most awkward horrible [ __ ] and by the

Destinyend even still those rank is like some of my best sexual experiences but it's because we got to know each other and because we managed to have sexual compatibility we develop after the relationship like on a one-night stand like it's hard to know like when I say something in that fun sexually depending

Billy Rayon what you're looking for unless you're sexually so what unless you're like sexually starved and I'm like I can agree that the longer you're with somebody the better sex gets so why is she not enough

Destinyit's kind of like if you've got like a close friend but then you've got other friends like well why is that one friend not enough because in life sometimes variety is fun sometimes I want to be with a girl that's Hispanic or Asian sometimes I want to be with somebody that is

Destinyfriendship is a friendship but marriage to me isn't just about my dick going in her vagina there's a lot of aspects to my marriage that I share with my wife that's really unique to my wife that I don't share with other people my dick is just not one of those things is it going

Destinythat's why some people say that emotional cheating is also a thing in in marriage sure that's great but I'm just saying that like they're they're I think that there are some things is only appropriate between spouses in your opinion which is fine um but there are some things that are

Destinyfun to exploit sexual to other people that not everybody might like there might be some people that are into certain things that like I'm not into that she gets another guy there might be some girls or anything so they're into that she's trying to do like so being able to exploit sex with other people is a fun thing if you're both okay with it

Chasethen yeah okay so this this value of fun it's a very interesting one that's been brought up right it's kind of like a chief value here in the discussion sure and the question it begs in my mind is

ChaseGod forbid this happens will it be fun if this open relationship ends up causing things to fall apart down the line if one of you guys finds yourself in a uh an entanglement so to speak no

Chasethat with yeah with somebody who you might find a deeper connection with than the other person like if that causes the relationship to fall apart that probably wouldn't be very fun no it would be horrible and it'd be sad but monogamous relations have the same issues right how many times do you have like a man that

Destinyfalls in love with a co-worker or a woman that falls in love with a friend that she spends too much time with like monogamous people have to put up a lot of boundaries in their relationships too because they worry about the same types of things you know so I mean this is part of the reason why like like that is

Chaseso I I I was conceived by a man who had an extra I would hope so oh extramarital affair okay he had an extra marital affair with my mother and he was extremely in love with her and he felt a deeper connection from what I understand

Chasewith my mother than he did with his wife right and this is why like were Trad Christians preaching the Christian Gospel and the Christian way of life because it's like yes people will like in marriage people will likely find somebody else at some point in time during the marriage that they feel a

Chasestronger connection with but through embodying virtue like you can you can shut down uh that impulse you can resist that Temptation and stuff and it's like I don't know I personally think that that's a better approach than entertaining it because what if someday

Destinyone of you guys runs into somebody that you have a better emotional connection with like what would you do then again I understand the question but like monogamous people have this exact same problem what you rely on with the guardian in my opinion is the history

Destinythat you've built together right there is probably the virtue that you choose to embody if that's how you want to do it yeah but there's like there's a problem there's probably some woman out there that would be like a better match

Destinyfor me than it was awesome there's probably some guy out there that would be a better match for her than me but we've got like four and a half years up to now of History built together that we know and like a lifestyle works really well much whatever we want the same things like yeah so part I think

Destinypart of what makes a relationship work is that relationships require a lot of deliberate work they don't just happen and they don't just grow naturally it's not for a little bit for the beginning but there require like a lot of deliberate like we're gonna work on things we're going to build on things

Destinywe're going to have this and that thing that you build is part of what makes you romantically attracted to each other not in the honeymoon way but in like a this is a relationship that works kind of way and that thing you can't find with other people there might be a girl that I meet and I connect with in a ton of awesome

Chaseways but it's like I don't know but yeah here's the thing about that I mean you make a great point but a lot of people of course I do a lot a lot of people build that that that foundation with one another over years and years but like one of the things one of the things that happens with a lot of women you know

Chasewomen are in many ways dominated by their emotions right now we are but like like one of the things one of the things that you hear very often happens in marriages is like you know there will be a bit of tension

Chasemaybe the guy gets fired from his job he's having a tough time finding a new one he loses some of his confidence you know she's like kind of got the ick from her husband for a bit and then like some Chad comes into the picture and he's like hey and he talks to her right and then boom she cheats happens all the

Chasetime no hold on I've heard it a million times men cheat more than women okay yes you can apply it to both sexes though so what I'm talking about you can apply it to both sexes and at that point in time

Destinyyour history your foundation doesn't matter it all goes out the window the Second That Emotion sure but that would be the case whether or not we were open or closed yeah right if I lose all my confidence and I turn into a [ __ ] loser I just smoking weed all day and play League of Legends it's not like I'm

Molinagonna rely on my monogamy to keep her crap in the house it kind of helps like having an open relationship too because you actually get to like taste the things that you're interested in that might not be like a relationship you know like you would live with them where you want to have a future with them

Chaseright but is that sustainable yeah don't we have the longest relationship at this table so far you do you do but sure but like do you guys have a high degree of confidence that your marriage will last for decades I mean I married

Chaseher without a prenup so I [ __ ] hope so okay or else this motherfucker's gonna be I'm curious I'm curious with the chat things I'm curious what the chat thinks do you guys have a high degree of confidence that their marriage will go the distance let us I mean you shouldn't have a high degree in confidence that

Chaseanybody because even monogamous marriages have like a 50 [ __ ] fail rate right yeah but like if if you if you take you know again to go back to the Christianity thing if you really take your vows before god seriously and you're regularly attending church and like that's a really important thing to

Destinyyou you know you look at the data on that the divorce rates are much lower than the average I understand what you're saying and I it's hard to fight this because like it's hard without making it it's not gonna attack on your relationship okay but you're asking me a

Destinyhard question so like this is how I view it personally okay I want my wife to be with me not because I'm the only one she's allowed to [ __ ] and not because he made a promise in front of a sky fairy a long time ago that she has to be with me I wanted to be with me because she loves me because she respects me because she thinks I'm the coolest guy for and

Destinybecause all the things that I'm doing are things that are inspiring to her in her life and the way that our relationship works I know that at every point we're with each other it's because we match and exceed those expectations from each other right she's not with she will never think that like oh um the only reason Stephen hasn't like left me

Destinyfor another woman is because you know he could go [ __ ] somebody else over it because we can we can do that but we're still with each other at the end of the day right that's like our marriage that's how we view our relationship if for some people vows and everything work like that's cool but I feel like with type of Lifestyle I lead with the ways

Destinythat I excel in my career she's like growing in Excel in her career I would hope that the reasons why we're together are more than just because of that transactional things some number of years ago yeah that's my point of view and I understand that's not for everybody and some people do things differently but then like I also see and I know personal examples I won't call

Destinythem out but um where people have taken those vows and [ __ ] they are stuck in some miserable ass [ __ ] relationships yeah and they're like well I took this vow I don't want to [ __ ] do if I'm Catholic I have to get an annulment uh it's gonna look bad in front of my whole

Destinyfamily and then you see these really set people in their 30s okay that are like the rest of my life is going to be relegated to this miserable [ __ ] relationship and I can't get out because I promise somebody that I wouldn't and it's like [ __ ] that's so sad you know that's like so much worse than like

John Doyleanything else I get really sad whenever I see that I think the problem there is that they took the vow in the first place I think they didn't recognize how serious it was where you know they jumped into this room sometimes you don't know someone until you live with them for a little bit and then you realize that this is not for me but then

Molinathey they've like hardcore committed like I'm I was a virgin before this No One's Gonna want me again I'm religious my parents are gonna hate me like and then they just they're stuck in this relationship that might be really abusive I think and then they're having

Jonathan (MLD)kids and they don't dare to divorce and this is where like it's like a hyper Niche example though that's probably one of the Norms that's probably one of the Norms I don't know absolutely any sources anything to back there look at

Mary Morganthat look at the divorce rate it's based on the fact that like virgins like people are not saving sex for marriage in general these days like that does not happen a lot yeah if you look at this if you look at the statistics hold on hold on if you

MolinaI'm sorry this point needs to be made if you look at the statistics on virgins who get married they have a less than two percent divorce rate yes but what if that's those marriages are abusive it's just like a hypothetical situation

Molinawhy they're not divorcing is because of the pressure that they have from their families and uh from the that's an assumption that they come from that's an assumption but there's some percentage I didn't bring it that's like good that

Mary Morganthat pressure's on there if it's abusive shame is a good thing has always been considered grounds for

Jonathan (MLD)divorce yeah one of the things one of the things to like beat their wives asses like I don't know because the general

Jonathan (MLD)thing in America the general thing in America is like like these feminists think like gosh like all right listen here wife you better [ __ ] make some great tuna casserole I'm gonna beat your [ __ ] ass and it's just like does it

Destinyworks that's like what abuse looks like like a straw man stereotype from abuse okay right you guys know what abuse looks like yeah okay we don't have to go as far as abusive

Brian Atlasokay that's cool listening to Fresh is great hey guys guys let's let's get through the super chats let's try to get through all of them and then if we want to continue any conversation let's do

Brian Atlasthat uh did we do Mike Davis yeah we did we read that one uh Nathan John will you please wish JJ happy Mother's Day this is his final dying wish John uh JJ

Destinysweetheart the face of the movement happy Mother's Day big guy we love you beautiful uh Destiny's this one for you or who should read this Brian I want to come down and show you how a real Alpha deals with an unruly woman never allow a

Destinynobody goof to dilute the quality of the show plus he's lucky to have a woman as many she is by his side or you'll be seen as more eccentric than he already is he seems like the kind of guy that would call himself an alpha for beating women too [Laughter]

Nev300 into this evening 300 Burgers he actually yeah by the way I'm still waiting for my crown please I'm gonna be going on a flight soon he owns like 300 wait did he slide in your DMs Mike Davis no I just need the Burger King Crown all

Chaseright we have Ryan the eating Warrior thank you feminism Kryptonite accountability how does that even make sense facts I feel like women have some of the most harshest forms of accountability in society

Destinylike with uh being able to get out of pregnancies with abortion like being able like being forced to care for a kid for 18 years after you've had the child in the deck and just leave I mean dude nobody's forcing them they chose to have a kid yeah and so did the guy that left

ChaseI know he's got more accountability she chose that man as her child and then but the guy has the ability what would you blame the woman that's why everyone was like 288 a month I mean look I don't think I don't think dude should be able to just leave him sure I

Destinyknow but I'm just saying like that's an example that's a really big accountability factor that has a lot of influence over your life and that's something where women are held ultimately accountable maybe the lesson here is that women should be more selective that can be fine and that can be the lesson however you say that women

Destinyare meant to be better sure you say that women should be helpful that's what we've been doing I've been asking the whole podcast how can we make him end great again sure you say that's I'm just saying that that's an example of like if a mistake is made with a child more often than not the woman is going to be held ultimately accountable for it

Chasefeminism is white supremacy for women they don't they don't they don't stand up for women of color first wave feminism is intrinsically linked to racism because they did not want black

Chasemen or women to get the vote when they got it the feminist is just a stupid AF girl pretending to be smart so far back at that Seneca Falls Convention I'm sorry they feel that way I don't

Pixiea person who like tries to dunk on people I just want to have like actual conversation I don't know respect okay Dr Nautilus thank you thank you for the uh Super Chat man from the general discussion it's obvious that the Destinies are oblivious to healthy

Destinyboundaries I.E you mentioned that you run into toxic people when in reality uh or I'm sorry when in actuality you attract them do you really think that one of you won't become one of these toxic people who uh I don't know maybe it might happen we'll see maybe I

Chasehaven't already said you know uh Chase do you want to read this one yes watch it the ginger Menace says Chase I'm an RN there's something called Tris trismy genes that make a mistake and that person gets three chromosomes instead of two you can have Down syndrome on Gene

Chase21 but it can happen on your sex chromosome I.E xxy it makes a male more feministic I.E Gene Lee Curtis shots fired at Jamie Lee Curtis appreciate that what how often does that happen Trisomy is pretty rare I'm pretty sure

Pixieyeah like what are we talking like in general are like one percent of the population as well or around there I think if intersexes

Destinythings and it very rarely means like mixed genitalia yeah the problem is intersex can be like anywhere from like 0.02 to like two percent depending on how broad intersection is like a very

Brian Atlaslike ill-defined thing right okay yeah okay we have Minnesota Liz here with the 200 thank you Minnesota thanks Minnesota Liz Minnesota Liz with the 100 uh you are giving her what she

Brian Atlaswants she isn't answering on purpose yeah this is

Brian Atlasforeignty in men and praise it in women feminists demonize natural femininity in women and praise it in men key word demon eyes there because a lot of people don't know that the feminist movement

Pixiehas origins in occult Satanism and luciferianism so it is quite demonic energy confirmative deny Satanist have you guys thought I've beelz above worship have you guys thought demonized men or women today

DestinyI think she's making a general statement about feminism as a whole we have waffle Sensei here thank you for the uh appreciated Destiny you want to read this one hi Destiny if Tate is bad for presenting

Destinymasculinity as owning cam girl sites is it bad for women to present femininity as doing only fans and cam girl content what do you think I think the issue is I could be wrong but I don't know if only fans girls saying that only fans is

Destinydestroying the world but the Tate seem to believe that only fans is destroy the world that like men simping for women are so when you engage in that industry it seems a little hypocritical I'm not saying that running a cam business is wrong except when you do my sex trafficking uh what I'm saying is that it's probably wrong to do that and then

Chaseto come out later like these are the worst things happening with society when you've been like one of the biggest players contributing to it yeah it's hypocritical to get back to the question is it bad for women to present femininity as doing only fans and cam girl content to reframe that a bit a lot of girls that do only fans they talk

Destinyabout how liberated they are and how they feel so empowered by it in kind of like a feminist mindset when we get into like sex work that's a really complicated question to borrow the nuanced answer um in some ways it can be empowering and in other ways I think it's kind of scary

Destinyto sell that as empowerment in a way it's almost like asking like should poor people be allowed to sell kidneys for a million dollars because in one way like it's an Escape from poverty and it's really empowering and in other ways it's like is that like the message you want to send that your path to success is

Destinythrough selling parts of your body um there's really good arguments on both sides of that I would say that like I think and every woman will agree I'm sorry that works in the industry only fans is a huge improvement over what was

Destinybefore and I will say that the way that prostitution no men making money off of it I will say that there's a very interesting phenomenon that I've observed that at every stage of a sexual transaction as long as the man is in

Destinycontrol of it nobody gives a [ __ ] but as soon as the woman is in control but people start to have really huge problems with it I don't think that's the issue I totally give you a great example of this right we can watch pornographic movies I know on Twitch there are games that have like porn scenes in them and when people see this

Destinyeverything's cool you can play The Witcher 3 and everybody's like oh yeah [ __ ] boob scene but if a woman goes on Twitch and cosplays as one of those like [ __ ] this booby girl it seems to be that there's a huge case that when women are in charge of the paychecks we start to have a really big problem I see the

Chasepoint that you're hold on I see the point that you're making my disagreement would be you know the the issue is that now that the paychecks have been put in the hands of the women and and

Chasepornography am I allowed to say that pornography pornography is has been decentralized right now it's like it's been democratized and anybody can get into it right you're saying before the paychecks were in the hands of the men and nobody had a friend no we didn't

Chasereally care like where was all the writings like 10 years ago you know yeah the problem that I have with it isn't necessarily that the paychecks are in the hands of the women it's that when the coveted pandemic happened like tons of women all across the country started doing only fans because they wanted to

Chaseuh provide for themselves and like now it's like now that the floodgates have been opened so many women who never would have been doing porn in the first place are now doing it because it's easy and accessible that's the problem I have

ChaseI feel like it's not that many dude it's a ton I'm just I hate to do this percentage of like Destiny yeah I didn't know any girls that were into pornography before the co-pandemic happened and now I've met like 12. sure but like what do you think is like the

Destinypercentage of women that do it I get to guess I don't know do what that do like only fans two percent very the percent increase is more interesting I think very small percentage yeah this is a very very small minority of people like I'm sure that Moore got into it for sure

Destinybut like more men also pursued like YouTube channels and pranks and [ __ ] like that now you can argue I guess you might think that only fans is worse than like trying to be a YouTube or whatever yeah but you know what really sucks is the fact that people are going into it

Nevbefore even ever trying to have a career women are going into it at the age of 18 the moment they turn 18 the moment the clock strikes 12. they're already on that only fan [ __ ] and the fact that that's such a thing that all these women

Destinyall these young women are just selling themselves short rather than going to school doing all that resorting to selling their sexuality is just disgusting it's terrible I agree 100 with what you're saying but you also just describe conservative relationships

Destinyand when a girl turns 18 her goal is to sell her sexual virginity to a man and then forgo all career building in order to she's not she's not selling anything

Destinythat's a little extreme that's like everything that she just said applies to a woman that says

Jonathan (MLD)wait wait hold on there's a large percentage of women that are like yeah I just don't want to be a hoe and then like you're comparing them to like a woman wanting to do only fans which is like ho Max yeah there's no there's

Chaseobviously there's definitely obviously comparison between a woman who wants to have a relationship with a man or get married to him and have kids with him to a woman that's doing the only fans totally different things they're obviously they're different that's why it's a comparison I'm not comparing two

Destinyof the same things but what I'm saying is selling themselves for a guy what I'm saying is that she was saying that it's sad that women get into only fans because they don't even try entering the educational market and then they [ __ ] up

Nevtheir life how many women that start dating conservative guys and get pregnant at 1920 are now in arguably a worse position okay well people who hold traditional conservative values would know that you're not supposed to get like that's like you're supposed to

Destinymarry someone yeah I hate this I hate to do this and I'm not I don't want to be mean to you but I'm going to pull the H card a little bit at 18 or 19. you're not even old enough to have conservative values because you don't even know that's

Chasethat's not true hold on I know a lot of women that have authentically conservative values in that 18 to 22 year old range and they have it because they were raised in families where their parents and I know a lot of those women

Destinythat try those relationships and after five years they're [ __ ] miserable and they're like I [ __ ] ruined my life getting with this conservative that sucks but it's crazy that's not what I saw all of them

Destinywhat I'm saying is you can't have conservatives in 1820. what I'm saying is like conservative values imply some Outlook of the world and seeing yourself and how you want situate to be situated in that world and at 18 or 19 you don't really know you have no idea you think

Jonathan (MLD)they don't really know but a lot of these women do they don't they don't really listen but if we were to like you know weigh it out like one versus another like a woman you know abiding by

Jonathan (MLD)conservative rules conservative values getting married having kids like the negative outcome is completely way heavier on the girl saying like yeah I'm 18 I want to post like naked photos of

Destinymyself getting [ __ ] by dudes and all this stuff I don't ask this really clearly because that's a phenomenal statement yeah if you're 18 or 9 teen you think it's a bigger mistake to start and close an only fans account than to start a relationship with a guy and have

Jonathan (MLD)a kid at 1899 if I were to be if I were to be a betting man across those two outcomes yeah I would bet on the girls

Jonathan (MLD)because I understand don't bail them out let them know that's fine it's fine it's fine it's the situation you're presenting because you're saying that like you know because the greatest indicator of poverty is unplugged Primacy and early pregnancy I get that I

Jonathan (MLD)get that but I mean just in like a common sense way like to sit there like you really have to jump through a bunch of like Hoops mentally be like okay like I guess I can rationalize this girl

Jonathan (MLD)posting full-blown nudity on her only fans for the world to see but like the majority of human history has like had women who have been like I'm just gonna you know abide by these con conservative

Jonathan (MLD)values maybe have a kid hey you know what maybe it [ __ ] up whatever but like this new phenomenon like yeah let me just be a [ __ ] on the only fans like to say that that has less of a like

Jonathan (MLD)negative yeah just just a negative impact in society in general versus a woman it's like yeah I just want to be like a decent woman and get married and have kids and like not be a naked [ __ ] online yeah but

Destinyyou're you're the problem is is that if you make a mistake by doing only fans you're only hurting your life if you make a mistake by having a child early on now you're ruining your kid's life and and you're arguing way more damage you've decided because where do all the criminals come from what are all the

Jonathan (MLD)Brokers what is all our government doesn't go to only fans girls to single mother right like you're assuming you're assuming a divorce happens but I'm saying if you took every let's like let's say we could flip a switch in society and we could either say every

Destinysingle single mother in society started at adopt and only fans or every single only fans girl tried to shut them and get pregnant at 8-19 what do you think would have made for the better Society the ones shacking up for sure okay that's fine okay so so hold on let's

Jonathan (MLD)let's take a step back once we're like I want to wait wait hold on just hold on the the point of like you know I want to get married and do my best to keep a family together and abide by Christian

Jonathan (MLD)rules and like my fault my my husband is the provider and I want to be like a province 31 Woman and I want to do my best to like maintain a healthy family and like you know I mean if you do it all perfectly it works of course no no

Jonathan (MLD)I'm we're not we're not saying Perfection but I'm saying like you're really telling me that a woman who's like yeah you know what I'm gonna take a risk get married because like that's been happening across the globe across cultures

Chasebefore you make that point yeah give it to us preach brother you're presenting thank you thank you you're presenting this dichotomy where it's like okay you can either do only fans or as a 18 19 year old woman you can have kids with

Chasesome conservative guy that's going to take advantage of you and then he's good hold on yeah make him pay attention so please he's taken away he's stealing okay start over for the tick tock clip go chase is the alpha I don't care about the tick

Chasetock clip you're you're presenting this dichotomy where it's like okay chicks can either do only fans or they can get pregnant and then then they'll get dumped and the relationship will fail the reality is that is going to be a minority of the population a lot of the

Chasewomen that are 18 19 and they want to have kids and they want to have a family like they can do so successfully it's not like it's just going to fail every time the majority of kids today they're not going into a divorce for parents who got like married young like

Chaseextremely but you're actually again virgins virgins who get married together their rates of divorce are less than two percent yeah okay so at Young ages I don't believe it but like also it's regardless of age you're presenting it

Chaseas if it's it's it's a hopeless scenario for women that want to have kids with a guy young but it's not the scenario that you're describing while it is a problem you and I agree on the fatherless home thing it's a huge issue and Society you've seen the statistics it increases

Chasethe likelihood that people are going to end up addicted to drugs commit suicide

Chaseyou've been kind of presenting a false dichotomy where it's like okay I'm not saying it's the only two I was just curious yeah well in addition I do think that you did generalize conservative women in general and conservative men okay

Jonathan (MLD)I think it's important too no I wanna I wanna because I want to hold that I want to hold that down so you really and this is not like a gotcha uh Internet movie I know I'm here to be God I'm here to

Jonathan (MLD)dominate you and you destroy your Empire no no no but honestly speaking you really in your heart hearts believe like a woman who's like hey you know what I'm gonna like apply these conservative values and give it a good go like learn

Jonathan (MLD)to bake you know you know pack my children's lunch and like do my best you think a woman who decided to like start an only fans is like it's a way better choice what I'm saying is that with the way Society is structured right now for

Destinyyou to decide becoming that you want to be a full-time stay-at-home mom wife parent at 18 or 19 is a more radical decision than trying an only fancy yeah I just wanted to say like as a conservative woman I don't believe in that at all like I'm I'm studying law I'm

Nevit's all conservative women say oh all they want to do is get married if I had a husband yes I would support him every single week conceivable I would want to be there for him I would want to help him with his career I'd want to make him happy but at the same time I think

Mary Morganmaking myself happy would also make him happy that's good Stephen you described marriage like traditional marriage of two young people as or compared it to a

Mary Morganwoman selling her sexuality exactly which is it just shows that you're so desperate to cast marriage in a negative light okay traditional marriage specifically in a negative light by

Mary Morganbasically calling it a form of prostitution or slavery or subjugation of women and it's just it's simply not true okay if you're done with a virtue signaling so the comparison was well she

Destinysaid of course you dare talk about marriage like that what she said was doing only fans at an early age and opting for that before even trying to get educated or work is a sad thing and

DestinyI said I would say the exact same thing for a woman that at 18 or 90 says I'm just going to find a man to get married why are you discrediting that those women have full agency to make a decision why are you describing that women that do only friends at 18 I have a full agency to do it they absolutely I have been saying that this whole time

Destinythat they should be held fully accountable for that decision if they make it yeah but that's we're not talking about whether or not they should be held accountable we're talking about whether it's unacceptable that they have full agency oh well then we have no disagreements I don't know why you're so obsessed with what I'm saying that they should be held accountable for it sure

Mary Morganokay but I don't know what our disagreement is then you're comparing the two as you're you're saying they can be described as the same thing

John Doyleis going to last for a very long time yeah well same with what it is that's my whole point people who get married when they're like 18 and 19 aren't doing it because they're trapped because

John Doylethey're like white trash or stupid yeah that's not the case I think that's definitely true if you look at like you know the pool of people who say got married at age 18 or 19 they're not doing it but there's also High School

John Doylesweethearts to get married early in order to make the accuracy in order to make the accurate comparison I think you would have to look at you know young kids who are doing it because they want to make that vow and because they're

John Doylelike trying to be trapped or something instead of like the whole pool of people who got married at that age which I'm sure a lot of them are regarding it because they're making a mistake but I think if you have people who are more biblically minded more traditional it's going to be more successful on average than the person who takes the route of

John Doylethe only fans and I think it's also important with the value you're contributing to society maybe you made the wrong mistake with your spouse but you still have a family have a child maybe you're miserable but at least you do have that thing this is horrible you're just by prison no not at all

Molinaabsolutely because when you talk about what's like miserable in a marriage you can't even support yourself

John Doyleforever it's not forever if you look at like maybe not couples who have been like there's people in shitty relationships if you have a single mom of course no

John Doyleone is you like when I haven't read it you are describing hey guys guys guys guys guys guys one one at a time please you're describing marriage as a death sentence where it's like oh you're stuck in this miserable marriage if you look at like

John Doylecouples who have been in abusive scenarios like alcoholism gambling debt cheating like even abuse in some cases eighty percent of those couples report being happier with each other five years later it's a matter of I think being

Destinyable to like stick to it instead of just immediately being like I'm unfilled the ones right so it's easier to walk away from doing only fans at 18 or 19 than it is to have an

Nevaccidental travel the guy that you end up not why are you so critical of conservative Arrangements but the moment somebody brings up your Arrangement you go off on a tangent for about 40 minutes well I don't recommend migration to other people no reason hold on wait number two all I'm saying is it but the

Destinyway the world exists today there are massive benefits conferred upon you with a college education right we need more education today to succeed in the world than we ever have so making huge life-altering decisions from 15 or 19 is

Mary Morganreally scary and to say that like hold on going to college at 18 or 19 or even younger sometimes is a huge decision with permanent consequences because you're settling yourself with potentially hundreds of thousands of

Destinydollars in debt yes but the aggregate is a one million dollar difference earnings potential between you and a high school graduate it's it's one of the very few paths in society that is like almost going to be a success now I do agree that it might not be for everybody in

Destinywhich case I say going to college is almost a guarantee of success yes absolutely what does aggregate mean aggregate means that if you calculate all of the earnings of people that graduate from high school you compare to all the youngest people that graduate the four year degree in college the

Destinyaggregate earning is a million dollars over the lifetime even for shitty gender studies degrees and your liberal arts degrees even those people out earn high school graduates well thank goodness so can we agreed on the value of going into yeah I agree but I'm just saying that

Destinylike with the as complicated as life is today we don't like we're not done learning history at 14 and then running our father's Pharmacy stuff at 1560 and having feelings of 18 19. we kind of need to jump into the world and figure out like what's going on and to make

Jonathan (MLD)decisions about like having families on all of that generally like 18 or 19 you're probably not going to be here like in your like early mid-20s I think you're like more equipped to make can we all at the table just like unanimously agree like probably starting only fans

Destinyat 18 to 19 not a good idea can we agree with as long as we can agree with this starting a family at 18 19 also a bad idea that's not true sure sure

Destinybut more people wait hold on more people where that's no longer needed for young people who want it more than people women have the opportunity to pick good relationships and not just be married off of some guy and have no chance to work or get educated more

Jonathan (MLD)today more people more people fail at having a successful only fans career than they do at like starting a family though that might be true that

Destinymight be true but the penalty for failing only fans is maybe if you fail first of all if you fail only fans transfer nobody's ever gonna find your [ __ ] nudes okay because there's a million girls with only fans that nobody either number one number one but also

Destinyeven if they did the penalty for failing and only fans is a lot less than the penalty for failing a marriage true but when you do fail in only fans it's a gigantic F yeah and when you do fail in marriage your kid is [ __ ] Ted Bundy

Mary Morganor something more [ __ ] Hitler okay someone's marriage fails they were trying to do something good and build something in society that matters if you fail at doing only fans you fail to doing something stupid and evil yes you're

Destinytrying to build a marriage it's disgusting if you try to build a marriage for society you suck at relationships and you shouldn't even be trying to have kids because what a horrible way to contribute children to the World by saying I'm making a better world you should do it because you love the person because you want to have a child because you have love for that

Chasechild disagree here's why oh yeah I agree I agree that you should have children because you love the person and because you want to bring children into the world with that person however from the biblical perspective which I'm not a

Chasereligious man yeah I know I know you're not but the Counterpoint that I want to make is Psalm chapter 127 verse 4 says that the children of a man's youth 18 19 20 21 22 all the way into his 30s the

Chasechildren of a man's youth are like arrows in the hands of a warrior okay from our perspective progress Psalms chapter 127 verse 4. from my perspective and I assume theirs

Chaseas well we are in a spiritual war and and it is a war yes correct Jesus is correct he is the king that leads people he's the king that leads people to either way I'm curious if the if there was like an Islamic person that was

Molinatalking to you trying to like convince you about like Islamic beliefs would you like be open to that or would you feel like I have conversations like I have conversations with Muslims all the time some of the best people I know are true

Chasealso hold on I'm sorry hold on hold on to me hold on Ryan intervene who has the rights there is there is a good motivation for

Destinyhaving children in terms of the society yeah you can send more virtuous and God I got you you made the joke look who our enemies are you realize we are destroying you in every single facet of the culture war and at world domination

Destinyright the conservatives have no place in media conservatives no place in the art conservatives no place and most major governments around the world America has the most right value what I was just talking about you okay that's fine that's the movement that I represent is absolutely [ __ ] annihilating your

Destinymovement it's not even close which is why you guys are on podcasts crying about trans people going into business

Destinythat instead of making fun of the blue hair you should Revere it and respect it and fear it okay I am the man kicking you into the well saying this is Sparta

Destinynot when I have 10. dropping grenades on Russian soldiers

Molinaokay we're gonna spread our jeans all over the world okay

Jonathan (MLD)did Brian go to get milk and cigarettes yes How We Do It come back come back we need you

Jonathan (MLD)charge

Destinywhat I would say you guys yeah you look at the state of the world and you're like bragging about you guys are leading guitars but your markers of like the world is bad is it like 22 yeah literally yeah

Pixielike talking about like oh it's bad that there's just people having children Etc et cetera but like part of me is not completely bought into that argument because I'm thinking about how sometimes it's better to have less children and

Pixiedevelop them more virtuously than have multiple children or a lot of children and then you know have them live in poverty or not be able to develop that so I don't think yeah and developing it is true yeah

ChaseOne mic at a Time One mic at the time you're saying the lower birth rate isn't necessarily bad but but you're conflating the two it's not necessarily bad to have less children if it means that you're going to care for them

Chasebetter but I would say that it's good if you can have more children and you can provide for them and raise them effectively I would say that that's a good thing yeah I would not say that it's it's not a bad thing if you're below replacement levels I would say that's a pretty bad thing yeah I think

Pixiethe reason why I wanted to bring this up is because it seemed like earlier we were talking about like developing nations like they're having like let's oh sorry develop the Nations um so I'm getting distracted um they're having less children like

Pixiethat's cultural decline like it doesn't really seem that's necessarily the case especially if it's just people focusing on putting the resources that they now have more onto those two children yeah and when I see people like you I agree

Chasethe birth rate should be lower but how could you betray us like this what what do you mean no I'm saying I'm saying people like her should be reproducing less yeah

John Doylemany children and then they won't you don't deserve the father of the children

Brian Atlasyes we will be the surrogate fathers yes okay Jesus Christ thank you Steve um we have a couple super chats let's get through

Brian Atlasthe super chats let's get let's get into these super chats okay uh I've got to listen to the people allegedly I don't know if this is actually sneako if she's down to see other men tell her heels at

Jonathan (MLD)me not sneakers what do you have to say the sneaker what oh I mean I called him a cut two weeks ago I still believe that too full-blown apology now because he's not a cuck

Jonathan (MLD)I think he's listening here a girl with autism he doesn't [ __ ] have he's not he's not a [ __ ] I'm actually friends with him oh he's not a cook at all and so are you and so are you he's not actively cooking

Chaseall right everybody Rippy donated a hundred dollars and he said the idea that only fans is a step up from before Destiny is crazy yes there were awful scenarios in the past with pimps and

Chasestuff but now it's basically to the point that anyone could do it it's the Uber of the can you pull that back up Ryan so are you having an extra stream conversation right now he's she said it's the Uber of the seg's Work World

Chasejust my opinion what do you think about that if women are gonna do porn I think it's better that they're in control the income than not there are women exist they wouldn't even have the opportunity to do it tons of [ __ ] amateur videos and [ __ ] there's a ton of

Destinyways yeah but they're not getting if they're not getting paid for it and it's not like it's it's there's no insane for it like but there's no incentive that's a good one but like even like 14 15 years ago there are times we give you like a thousand dollars if you submit like an amateur porn video to the sided

Destinyshow like but what's the point of perpetuating Hedonism like what's the point I love Hedonism I know I'm a hedonists repentance Jesus Christ say I'm glad that I don't know if there's a goblin or not but again you can be smart

Chaseall you want about it Brian you want to keep rolling through these super chats we should keep the show going yeah right now okay are you good

Chasethis unpure conversation is flustering him jeremore said what a scam spent a hundred we should pull up Chase could probably Scrolls I got it I got it um we

Chasedid rippies right uh Brock said her mouth is smoother than oil her end is bitter as wormwood and sharper than a two-edged sword remove thy way from her Destiny blue hairs girl

Chaseis the embodiment be strong my brother do not let her lead you into death okay wait me yeah

Chaseyeah I said for 100 bucks thank you farha Chase the nuclear family was basically an anomaly in American history what a [ __ ] totally false and worked briefly it's worked for a long time thousands of years although people can

Chasemake the distinction that it's more the traditional family as opposed to the nuclear family like people living in their little house in the suburbs it's a good point there but anyways worked briefly because of a totally different economic and cultural landscape besides feminism and lgbtq what other factors do

Chaseyou think are destroying the nuclear family in the west hoes like you I would also I would add yeah yeah

Chasemedication be a better man better man I am not an MLD please I am me please to continue I want to continue getting MLD please

Chasean important point to make what other factors do you think are destroying the nuclear family in the west something I would add to that is the destruction of our money supply that began in 1971. if

Chaseyou look at the statistics from 1971 until now Brett yes that as well all metrics of the health of society have gone down since we began destroying our money in an inflationary money printing

Chasethat's a big part of it people have to work harder in order to provide for their families you have to have dual parent incomes whereas before in like the 1950s and 60s you could afford to just like get a blue collar I don't know about that for your family it's true my

Jonathan (MLD)brother has been broke for the majority of his life he just started making money and he was raising three kids damn with a single household earning making forty thousand dollars

Jonathan (MLD)Mike Davis here no that wasn't a destroyer

Jonathan (MLD)Mike Davis says MLD you could bark all you want but you you know you don't want this smoke what the smoke from the [ __ ] Fry Basket at Burger King

Jonathan (MLD)I'm a whole different animal I knock out every veneer I knock out every veneer tooth by tooth you got so much grease you won't need Vaseline I'll take you in

Jonathan (MLD)Destiny together and whoop y'all like your mom's should have whoa listen you know what my response to that is roast

Jonathan (MLD)I'd like a uh junior Whopper with cheese and bacon and an orange soda make sure you bring that up here to the whatever podcast is that everything German said he spent

Brian Atlasa hundred bucks draw more did you get your uh

Destinyjust send more money because just send more money Brian loves money what are we getting [ __ ] Mike Davis on this podcast that's a good question I've been trying I do want to know

DestinyDestiny what is your body count 200 plus I'm not gonna why I don't know it's an interesting question yeah I don't think I want to share yeah

Destinycome on as far as the guys Destiny and show the red pill guys what's up Flex I promise that like if I say a number that's too low I get judged by Sandra there's too high people won't even believe me so I don't even know what the point is just go with them but you know

Chaseover complicating the questions approximately well I'm not reading it if you're it's how long sexual but like Chase Matthew 18 6. we're not reading these we're not reading these just Eric shows

Brian Atlasbased Bible scripture right there thank you Sierra Stanton I appreciate that uh as far as as far as the guy who's claims we didn't read the hundred

Brian Atlasdollar Super Chat uh we have Auto Super Chat functions set on so we have not seen your uh one that's an interesting he says jdoc

Chasesays greed is the source of all problems not poverty the framing that being a poor is the problem is asinine it is an elitist argument I just like Turned TTS on to 50 for the end of the stream nah [ __ ] these people so I've got so many

Kikipeople talking here already I saw a donation that was a hundred dollars a hundred Canadian dollars on that but it was purple so then it's not you think because the exchange rate it would have been like 80 bucks The

DestinyExchange yeah pull it up Canadian money is not real Canada we're gonna say inflated American money as a row we can't accept CID here yeah what we should find that's usually the only the case for a stream yard though it won't trigger on stream yard

Chaseif it's below like the conversion or whatever but on super chats I'm pretty sure if it's red it well because of the exchanger I think a hundred bucks Canadian is like 70 or 80 or something American

Chaseyeah yeah you want to pull it up anyways I'm curious what he had to say [ __ ] the camera sorry oh it's so over I can see if I can

Brian Atlaslike find not we're not back for jamor oh no it is over I can look but I don't know if I'm gonna you gotta do Stephen Moore said in all caps sucks to be Canadian MLD I told you that when I

Chasecalled in pull that one up from uh Dave on please you're more my heart goes out to you Canadians a big thing Jackson with a hundred bucks says what is the purpose of sexual experiences

Destinywhat happens when I don't know downstairs neighbor's gonna have a [ __ ] aneurysm all right go ahead he says what is the purpose of sexual experiences with people you can't even remember sometimes you have a really good sexual experience I do remember there's a lot of like really great meals

DestinyI mean I don't remember every single great meal I've had though some have been really good that I do remember though but what does that do to your conscience what does that do to you it makes you feel really good okay good memories as well you can think back on them feels great sometimes in those really dark times when the internet's

Destinynot need to masturbate I can revisit my memories instead of having you're both so like dead in the eyes you are the most deadly-eyed person I've ever seen you literally look like that girl from The Ring okay what are you talking about okay thank you for smiling and your wife looks like female Jared Leto

Brian Atlashell yes thank you where are we at sorry any more dinos want to make fun of me or anything oh is this thing hold up can we hide that there hide that or you can go just start showing those I had a question for you so you said MLD can we make a little bit more space for Mary so

Chaseshe can sit more at the table I feel like we lost the verse from the podcast but Mary has like yeah

Brian Atlasand then that mic if we can put it on the ground or something you got to throw an aggressor Justin Waller MLD I actually have a question for you later what's up um later yeah because you want

Brian Atlasto see something he won't do a threesome with you guys I'm actually curious I know that though watch it actual question though actually wait we

Brian Atlasjust like entered like two questions hold on hold on if if Chase was actually down would you guys answer explicit sexual questions here look at her remember we couldn't say it right yeah because what if it's not what

Molinaif it's yes we don't want to say anything John did you have something or who was it I have a question I have a question okay go ahead I'm actually not to like debater I'm actually really curious what is it like to like go from

Molinahaving sex with people and then stopping and like like disciplining yourself into not keep doing it like what does the days look like like after that like when you mix it

Chasewhat is your mental experience that you were in a relationship how did it affect your relationship I mean I I'll go there I realized like halfway through the

Chaserelationship I knew for a fact that I wasn't going to marry this girl and by continuing to have sex with her I knew that I was like damaging her long term and I knew that in all likelihood we would leave the relationship and she

Chaseprobably would remember me for the rest of her life and that might come up for her mentally and emotionally in her marriage right and like I know that for myself the last thing I would want in marriage is if like I married a girl but

Chasesome guy that she had had sex with she was still hung up on him like emotionally and mentally that would that would tear me up inside and I knew that there was a possibility that that might happen so I decided to

Chasestop having sex with her and this was in 2019 in 2020 I realized the way that the world was going I want I really wanted God's favor over my life and for me honestly like having the

Chaseconfidence that God has my back is worth it so much more to me than like fornicating with women that I'm not going to marry like I I really really want an exceptional wife and I want God's blessing in that way so it's like

Molinaokay like temporary sex with a girl I'm not going to marry God's favor in my life obviously I want God's favor in my life more so you would have sex if like if you marry someone you're gonna have sex with them I'm assuming we're just

Chasegonna help you what kind of questions you think he's gonna get married and not have sex yeah I wasn't really sure wait wait wait you know we're not no we're

Jonathan (MLD)not this is like hardcore into something here no no no no we're not we're not We're not gonna have free marital sense but but I get to marry someone and not have sex with them yeah I don't know some people do that depending on what your what your ass is talking about as

Chasestraight as like they plan on doing to be honest I wasn't sure but as straight as that is that's pretty gay yeah yeah it is pretty good to be honest I'm actually like I I'm I'm really excited at the idea of not having premarital sex

Chasebecause it's such an excellent filter for whether or not you're right for somebody like the way I look at it if I if a girl and I you know were dating or I caught her or whatever and we're not having sex

Chasewith each other and after a year or two years or whatever it is I still want to get married to her it's like you know like that's that's the one for you you know what I mean and that's like the best filtering mechanism possible for finding a good spouse I don't want to

Destinyargue against you but like I feel like I could flip that exactly in 180. if there's a girl you've been dating for two years and you haven't [ __ ] her yet and what if there's like the risk the only reason you want to get married so you can finally explore that and then after you do you're like oh [ __ ] whereas

Destinyif you've been [ __ ] a girl but you're still a really lover after two years may I address what he said first go ahead thank you you may

Chaseum yeah I mean like I I just I know how to read women really well and like I I cannot imagine a scenario where like I'm dating a girl for two years and we get married and start having sex and then it

Jonathan (MLD)just goes to [ __ ] in the bedroom I cannot imagine that happening and I have a hundred percent certainty that it would not happen yeah I want to add on to that so and this is anecdotal evidence for sure but the most successful relationship I ever had was

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