HEATED DEBATE w/ Destiny! OBNOXIOUS Feminist KICKED OUT! | Dating Talk #75

Date: 2023-05-17

Duration: 5h 19m

Guests

Brian Atlas

DDestiny (Streamer)>

MMolina Jorenson >

PPixie (DT130)>

BBilly Ray (DT101)>

JJonathan (MLD)>

CChase (DT118)>

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00TTS/Donations(audience)

SPEAKER_01Chase(guest)

SPEAKER_02Aaron(guest)

SPEAKER_03Pixie(guest)

SPEAKER_04John Doyle(guest)

SPEAKER_05Jonathan (MLD)(guest)

SPEAKER_06Destiny's Sister(guest)

SPEAKER_07Kiki(host)

SPEAKER_08Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_09Destiny(guest)

SPEAKER_10Nev(guest)

SPEAKER_11Billy Ray(guest)

SPEAKER_12Mary Morgan(guest)

SPEAKER_13Molina(guest)

Key Moments

ControversyAaron repeatedly refuses to answer whether she is a virgin despite panel and audience pressure, deflecting with philosophical questions about the definition of virginity.

“Have you had sex? 'What does it mean to be a virgin?' Repeated for 15+ minutes.”

QuoteDestiny states Destiny endorses whatever podcast as his most-donated-to YouTube channel.

“SPEAKER_09 (0:00:35): 'You're my favorite YouTube... that's true, that's the one I've donated the most.'”

QuoteChase discloses he became abstinent in 2020, citing biblical conviction and desire to honor God.

“SPEAKER_01: 'I made the decision to be abstinent... because I knew it was a sin against my own body... and I wanted God to reward me in turn for that and quite honestly he has.'”

ControversyBrian asks Aaron directly why she came on the show and whether she is acting in bad faith.

“SPEAKER_08: 'Why did you come on tonight?' Aaron: 'To have a discussion.' Brian: 'If you liked the show you would actually be good faith.'”

ControversyAaron is asked to leave the show after prolonged bad-faith engagement and refusal to answer the virginity question.

“Chase: 'Kindly, I'm asking you to leave.' Aaron: 'I drove all the way to this city so I'm here.' Brian kicks her off.”

QuoteDestiny's critique of Andrew Tate: materialistic message and alleged sex trafficking.

“SPEAKER_09: 'I wish that when we talked about delivering like purpose to young men it wasn't wrapped up in such a materialistic package...'”

QuoteDestiny argues men need to incorporate feminine traits (emotional intelligence) the same way women have incorporated masculine traits into their success.

“SPEAKER_09: 'Women have incorporated successfully a lot of aspects of masculinity into their character... men have basically they're kind of still masculine but we haven't worked on rounding out how men navigate the world'”

QuoteMLD introduces his 'Core Four' framework for men: make money, make muscles, learn game, hold frame.

“SPEAKER_05: 'I tell guys... the core four which is make money make muscles learn game and hold frame.'”

QuoteDestiny argues the difference between the two sides: 'It feels like on our side we're talking about relationships like they're meant to be enjoyed and you guys are talking about relationships like they're meant to be endured.'

“SPEAKER_09: 'It feels like on our side we're talking about relationships like they're meant to be enjoyed and you guys are talking about relationships like they're meant to be endured.'”

QuoteJohn Doyle argues men's suicide rates are high because they see no way out rather than just being unhappy.

“SPEAKER_04: 'Women experience depression in a much more environmental sense... men experience depression when there's no way out of that environment... that's why we just kill ourselves.'”

Topics Discussed

Guest introductions and relationship statuses

Guests introduce themselves: name, age, occupation. Brian asks relationship statuses. Destiny and Molina disclose open/poly marriage. Aaron's evasiveness about dating history begins.

Open relationships and polyamory debate

Destiny and Molina discuss their open relationship. Panelists debate monogamy vs polyamory, cuckoldry in red-pill culture, whether sexual exclusivity is essential to marriage.

Feminism debate: patriarchy, oppression, and women's roles

Feminist guests (Aaron, Pixie) vs conservative guests on whether women are oppressed, definition of patriarchy, sexual double standards, Only Fans and employment.

Self-ratings and audience super chats

Guests rate themselves on appearance (1-10 scale). Destiny: 10, Chase: 6.9, Billy: 10, John Doyle: 7, MLD: 9, Nev: 6, Mary: 6.

Aaron kicked off the show

After prolonged bad-faith engagement and refusal to answer the virginity question, Brian and panel vote to remove Aaron. Aaron leaves at approximately 2:20.

Andrew Tate discussion

Destiny explains why he dislikes Andrew Tate: materialistic message, alleged sex trafficking, selling spiritually bankrupt path to success. MLD and Chase push back and defend Tate's impact.

Men's crisis and how to support men

Panel debates what men need: Destiny advocates emotional intelligence and feminine balance; MLD pitches Core Four framework; John Doyle argues for return to enforced masculinity and gender roles.

Marriage, divorce, and premarital sex

Chase argues for abstinence until marriage; Destiny counters sexual compatibility matters. Divorce rates, feminist initiation of divorce, virgin marriage statistics discussed.

Fatherlessness, single-mother households, and societal decline

Billy Ray shares prison tutoring experience. Panel discusses fatherless homes leading to crime. Debate over whether abusive marriages should be endured.

Closing statements and sign-offs

Each guest gives closing thoughts. MLD announces upcoming YouTube tour stops. John Doyle advocates return to Jesus. Chase thanks guests.

Transcript

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Brian Atlaswelcome to the whatever dating Talk podcast thanks for tuning in tonight you could have been anywhere in the world but you're here with me I appreciate that we're coming to you live from Santa Barbara California every Sunday and

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Brian Atlasho h0e just thought that was interesting we've had Dix a few times too so what does that stand for

Brian Atlasthe the last one oh just like dicks my sophomoric sense of humor in like 10 years yeah it's been a minute all right so without further Ado after that rather long-winded introduction we're gonna

Destinyhave the guests introduce themselves so please tell us your name age and occupation go ahead hey my name is Steven Bunnell 34 years old uh people know me online and on Instagram as destiny

Molinaokay welcome I'm Melina known as Molina on social medias as well Milan jorenson I do twitch I'm 24 and I'm married to this my wife Destiny here yeah your wife

AaronDestiny you're such a beautiful woman thank you and I'm Erin AKA straighta raid on all platforms I'm 24 and I'm looking to do live streaming

Pixieall right what about you hi I'm pixie p-x-i-e I currently stream and yeah you can find me on okay

Billy RayI'm Billy Ray I'm 25 and I am a content creator mostly on the topic of men's dating welcome um I'm Nev I'm 20. I got fired from

Jonathan (MLD)PetSmart so now I'm working at Los Pollos Hermanos and yeah [Music] I'm Jonathan also known as MLD I'm 37

Mary MorganI'm based in Tokyo Japan and I'm here on my YouTube Tour on whatever podcast I do men's self-improvement I'm Mary Morgan I'm I'm 22. I'm a commentator at timcast media you can

Mary Morganfind me on a show called pop culture crisis

John Doylereflection your voice suggested there was another bullet point my name is John Doyle I am 23 years old and I talk about politics on the internet you said 23 that is correct my name is Chase 28 years old

Brian Atlasprofessional photographer and brand consultant all right rock and roll uh and before we have everyone give their relationship status here how old are you I never

Brian Atlasintroduced myself why not he needs no introduction I'm the mystery the mystery wow but if I could I want to know yeah

Brian AtlasI'm curious hi I guess my age yeah go for it 29. no what 34. oh cool just turn just turn yeah it's the red hair makes you look so much younger it brings out

Brian Atlasthe uh the yeah but uh thank you I guess that's a compliment yeah I just turned 34 recently so um and I had a couple questions for you Destiny so we're Destiny you prefer Stephen call me Steven okay got it unless you really want to call me Dustin

Brian Atlasyeah by the way we were talking about this before the show um so and and I feel deeply honored that you did this you left a Super Chat on yeah two one was accidental yeah and

Brian Atlasthat's your first time super chatting ever on a channel so that's that's a pretty big endorsement can we say that Destiny endorses the whatever podcast so triggered by your episodes slamming my keyboard trying to figure out how to throw money at you yeah that's an

Kikiendorsement you've got it I heard it from the bedroom yeah what was the Super Chat it was something you guys were saying some crazy dating [ __ ] but I'm sure we'll fight about it here so all right let's go okay that was the one

Brian Atlaswith Rolo right yeah and you guys had quite a uh noteworthy debate yesterday when uh you Rolo Mike Sartain and sneako so that was a good show

Brian Atlasum and uh also I just want to pay you a compliment or two um I've seen a ton of your videos and you're very intelligent guy exceptional debater so very sharp so I just wanted

Brian Atlasto give you flowers on that thanks um so I think with that said I reckon we might have our work cut out for us but uh one question have you ever taken the Nike test never never you think it's up there it's probably probably like 165 or

Brian Atlas170 you know maybe in a ballpark there yeah gotcha um okay so let's go around the table once more what's your current relationship status are you single are you in the talking phase uh relationship

Destinyengaged married and whatever situationship go ahead um I'd say situationship slash married I guess depending on the day um no yeah we're married we've been together for like probably about four and a half

Brian Atlasyears okay yeah I guess the same same yeah same okay how long was it you said three and a half about four and a half years before four and a half been married for one and a half years now yeah that's great I'm married for one and a half

Brian Atlasokay what about you I'm single single longest relationship I never had a relationship never had a relationship uh what's the longest period of time that

Aaronyou've dated somebody I've never been on a date either never been on one yeah have you have you been asked out on dates but you rejected the guys or oh what no well I I revealed this on like

Aaronrevealed on fresh and fit and then after that I got more date offers that I'd ever gotten in my life but yeah I just haven't taken up random strangers on the internet for a day it's crazy are you aromantic uh no have you been asked out in real life uh yeah

Brian Atlasjust weren't interested in any of the guys no I I was asked out twice and I got set up for both rip Rip's in the chat that sucks uh but so you've never

Aaronhad anything with a guy or a woman no sure or a woman what about a thing with them no or are they them no okay um why do you think that is

Aaronum that has to do with the fact that like in high school I was in a dual enrollment program and then I just kept my nose in a book for four years because I graduated with my associates and then I got to college and

Aaronthen the pandemic started and then I was busy just doing too much gig work and I didn't have time to like pursue a relationship because I was just focused on like finishing my bachelor's which I did and then the pandemic happened and I just haven't gone around to it yet what

Brian Atlasdid you get your Bachelor's in uh biology biology okay are you are you pursuing like a master's degree or you're done with school I might do it but not sure yeah

Aaronso it's hard for me like are you on dating apps yeah dating apps anything have you ever been no kiss has there been a kiss yes I have in fact there's been a kiss yeah on record I think yeah

Brian Atlason on record yeah it was like recorded on a stream or something or not in a stream did you kiss someone that's fresh and fit no we'll see what I guess that fresh and fed fresh no not your type all

Chaseright uh uh not exactly no I don't think I'm his either to be fair so I don't know what this time is but it's not me fair enough um are you open to having a relationship yeah of course

Brian Atlasbut fresh with fresh with fresh if you Myron refresh which one cheese married or fresh oh my God those are the last your only two options

Aaronhow about you answer first who would you go for Mariner fresh who's just Myron would be more capable of protecting me I think yeah I'd be a little frightened I think

Brian Atlasum if you wanted to beat the protector though who would you want to protect that's the question Jesus Christ this is really I I'm I'm befuddled you've stumped me I don't know yeah that's a

Brian Atlastough question it's hard it's tough um I would go for uh Big Mo behind the scenes good answer good answer Big Mo do you know I don't know if he was there

Brian Atlaswhen you were on not familiar who's this big he's like he's the sweetheart of the fresh and fit podcast irresistible I bet he's big yeah Big Mo he's called Big Mo he's called Big Moe

Brian Atlasso I guess it's not offensive for me to call him big sweetheart great guy and then I'd probably then maybe Chris after Big Mo you're very interested okay um

DestinyI feel like it was like a beautiful mind strategy like you don't want to go for the main guys you want to go for the pretty girls in the background so you're opting for all the background people yeah and then interesting strategy and then the two main guys see that I'm kind of not paying attention to them and then

Brian Atlasthey come around because I guess that works okay um and so first kiss but virgin

Brian Atlashave you had sex what you said you've never introductions first before we get one well I mean it's I mean you're you're uh you don't often hear someone who's for example 24 who's

Aaronnever had a anything so is it uncommon or does it just feel uncommon I feel like we talk about a lot how like the

Nevsure I mean have you had sex or not have you had it it's a good question she needs to decide if she's gonna take you out later or not oh okay okay well we'll get to that part of the podcast a little later all right

Nevyou don't want to are you just gonna let her manhandle you like that yeah like we'll get to it later but has there been any has there been any you know

Brian Atlasokay that means the answer is yes right does it but she said she's never dated a guy but you have kissed a guy I have kissed a guy do you want to just answer the question

Aaronso I can go back to it's asking Destiny questions what now why don't we get to that first no no just answer answer the question answer the question uh what's the question again if you're

Brian Atlasuncomfortable answering it that's fine later on in the show cut it in the ass no no are you just a virgin just in general just in general yeah like

Molinaregular versions lesbian sex count yeah does what lesbian sex count yeah no lesbian virgins have you ever been with a woman have you ever been with a man have you ever been with a biblically

John Doylebiblically speaking or are they them bro just answer the question Jesus Christ this is literally like that scene in The Breakfast Club when they're all pressuring Claire to like say whether or not she's like no I never did it yeah

Aaronum you ask me if I'm a virgin yes dude yeah it's bro how many times you have to repeat it hello I just have to really make sure what does it mean to be a virgin let's get the definitions out of

Mary Morganthe way for us I'm very curious about that too actually amazing right what just do it just say that you're not comfortable answering and we can move on that's the only reason why somebody wouldn't want

TTS/Donationsto answer that question is because of the discomfort just do it make your dreams come true just do it I think we should uh move on from this

Brian Atlasoffice good idea Chase true good idea all right um well I want to come back to Destiny really quick here actually we'll we'll let everybody go if that's what you're asking that's not what I was gonna ask but we'll let everybody go then I had a couple specific questions

Pixiefor Destiny go ahead um I am currently single my longest relationship was okay

NevBilly Ray I have a wonderful boyfriend rock and roll longest relationship about four years okay I'm seeing someone my longest

Jonathan (MLD)relationship was two years I am seeing someone and my longest relationship was two years okay John recently single longest relationship

John Doylefour years five years sure Mary currently in my first relationship which is at 10 months I am single my longest relationship was about two years 18 months right around

Brian Atlasthere uh yeah currently single longest relationship about a year and a half and can you give us a little more information about your current situation

Chaseuh my current situation being that I'm single and uh what you want me to go into the looking for a wife waiting for marriage waiting for marriage yeah ABS practicing abstinence and uh excited to

Kikimeet the woman that God made for me whenever that happens are you like newly absent like Born Again abstinent or are you everybody says the Born Again thing no I uh I became absent in 2020. like you were born in 2020 or how does

Chasethat supply that you've never had you became a Christian in 2020. oh no I'm so glad for you I became a Christian about nine years ago but I've been uh I repented of

Chasefornication in 2020. gotcha yeah okay so he became Christian 2014 or 13. what kind of what sector about March or April of 2015.

Destinyokay yeah or what denomination again Catholic non-denominational Protestant oh my God yeah what yeah yeah pick a team okay make a decision I mean I'm looking at because

Chaseyou don't go to a church either right it's more no I do so now we're looking for denomination church it's it's a non-denominational Protestant Calvary Chapel oh they make non-denominational churches I didn't even know that yeah it's wild yeah you can find them usually

Chasein strip malls right between like a Popeyes and like a Planet Fitness oh my God they're just pretty normal churches you know they're not in like strip malls no mine's just downtown oh based yeah so that's how

Kikireally aggressive in here tonight sorry what's up on from her you think or yeah I guess yeah for everybody we're just a lot of energy in here tonight is there yeah a little tension eh it's not good is it do you think it's because of the wig

Aaronit might be I think that's I think the wig is like staving off more attention that could enter the room oh maybe yeah should we introduce more attention into the room should you take it off I need

Brian Atlasto fix my hair holy [ __ ] that's scuffed I'll I'll get up in a sec uh Destiny you have a son correct yeah um are you involved or is um yeah I lived there until he was around nine but

DestinyI moved to California and then Florida and then anytime I travel I try to visit him afterwards so gosh I get to Nebraska tomorrow to hang out with you said he's nine yeah no no until he was nine he's 12. okay gotcha and you're who hears bye

Kikithis whole side of the panel yeah interesting interesting a whole bunch of degenerates over here um totally haven't found God yet on this side of the table you will in time Destiny hold on wait I I should put this back on while I ask

Pixiethis question hold on are we decreasing the tension for this question you look like Chucky Chucky I feel more intimidated honestly with it on it's a little scary yeah you feel like he's gonna like try something yeah

Pixielike he's gonna like I'm in Destiny he won't I'll hold him back don't worry oh true yeah uh Destiny am I your type I say no probably not what the [ __ ] dude

Kikiwhat's what's your Titan in terms of men like if they're if they're liberal Progressive you know the very the they themselves appearance wise appearance wise

Billy Rayum like if I was just like bleeding heart liberal what about Chase what about Chase is is Chase your type would you change that'll be in the after

Kikishow we'll talk about visually is that is that a yes I like date women wait but you're attracted to man you smash dudes but don't date them we can we'll go with that okay

Destinyoff limits well I don't know how much you want to [ __ ] do erotic fan fiction here like if you want like details of my hookup experience with guys we can do that if you want but we're on YouTube so you know I don't know I mean we don't need like

Brian Atlasvery obviously you put on the wigs yeah I respect that but I mean he already rejected me so I kind of like I had to reject you oh I'm more like a Personnel I'm like a sapiosexual you

Brian Atlasknow if you impress me intellectually well that's not gonna happen I I spill over my words you tested your IQ Brian I don't know um

TTS/DonationsEnglish is my second language so my articulation is pretty poor oh [ __ ] thank you donated 239 and one cent Brian I started

TTS/Donationswatching a month ago your social experiment has convinced me to stop sleeping around which was a big part of my life and focus on the one woman I

TTS/Donationsknow I want to marry I'm thankful for your platform keep growing Texas forever yo base burner thanks for the uh big uh TTS man really appreciate it glad you

Brian Atlasenjoy the social experiments um math props for your abstinence as well-based burner what was the uh what was the social experiment I think he's referring just the show to the show yeah oh I mean I don't I don't know if it's a

Brian Atlassocial experiment but I suppose you could frame it you'd probably call it that yeah um because I also did like social experience like back in the day but I don't I don't think he's referring to that so um that sounded

ChaseI'd be curious to hear from base burner if he wants to send in another TTS what inspired you exactly to stop sleeping around if you want to answer us fishing

Brian Atlasokay um so just a question about your guys's relationship so is it a uh my understanding it's a polyamorous relationship is that right yeah basically kind of yeah kind of yeah

Brian Atlaswe don't have like a third flippant we don't have sorry wait what is the wig a little flippant when I'm asking serious questions like a little don't worry about it you know don't worry about it I've gotten used to it now I've seen you more with red hair than not red hair so

Jonathan (MLD)it's actually kind of normal now okay cool I'll take it off in a bit but you guys were kind of wishy-washy on that answer well we're like probably but we don't like live with like a third person or anything like that what are like the rules of your guys's relationship that you have with each other like what are

Destinythe rules and boundaries I think generally we just try to communicate with each other when we see other people um honestly yeah and that's pretty much it and that's generally yeah does anybody have veto power over the other I mean like in any relationship anybody does right like if somebody wanted to

Jonathan (MLD)see somebody and the other person like hated one of your partners it's probably not good so have you guys so Melina Melina has like an indefinite veto over you and you have an indefinite veto over her yeah if we have like mortal enemies then the other person's trying to like super them

Jonathan (MLD)it's probably not gonna work out very well yeah no no no I'm not like leading you into any kind of like gotcha moment I just genuinely want to know so if if she wants to sleep with someone you're like uh no she has to respect it and

Molinathen vice versa for him before yeah sometimes yeah there's a lot of like streamer stuff that gets really dramatic sometimes so yeah be like explaining the circumstances like let's say that someone sleeps with

Molinaa monogamous person and then they get really obsessed with you and then it's kind of like this is really toxic like I want to keep seeing this person but they're like really shitty towards my partner so of course I would want to like like that's not fun it's not fun for me

Molinato listen to someone that I'm sleeping with that hates my partner or the other way around too like knowing that he's living with someone that hates me would you even understand would you even entertain that as a woman like you know this guy like definitely hates you I usually just sleep with girls oh okay

Molinaokay but it could be the same thing with girls too they want to date me they just like hate him but that's okay or like they're monogamous so they're gonna get really jealous they don't understand the open mindset like they don't like it's just gonna be that basically like sometimes people will sometimes people

Destinysee our Arrangement and it seems like a fun thing to do it's kind of similar to friends with benefits where people think it's a fun thing to do yeah but then when they try they get really emotionally attached and then because we're already in a relationship it gets really weird yeah has it been difficult

Molinamaintaining this Dynamic um I mean we run into a lot of crazy people yeah so how are you probably not attracting the most sane people in the first place I try to go for people that

Molinaare open or like that are poly now because it makes things a lot easier so we can just avoid like the jealousy because I don't even think it's really fair to like I almost feel like when someone agrees to sleeping with any of us

Molinaand they're thinking it's a fun thing usually we're like a lot cooler you know and they don't really realize until later on and then they get really obsessed or they feel really really bad so I usually feel really bad for them later on as well so I don't think it's really fair either to do that how long

Chaseinto your guys's relationship did you start this Dynamic right at the very beginning right at the very beginning yeah so you guys were like right off the bat like yo let's do it this way this is the only relationship I've ever done whose idea was the whole open relationship yours doesn't think about

Destinyit basically yeah like after my last relationship I didn't actually ever think I would date again because sleeping around is fun and [ __ ] yeah so the idea of like being locked down to one person is not fun and I started talking to her and she was cool and she's like oh well I do open relationships I'm like oh [ __ ] this is

Destinylike perfect so so I really decided to get married then and what is that because she lives in Sweden and I live in the United States and the only way she can spend any considerable amount of time with me is to be married so it was just a green card just that kind of yeah but I mean like we love each other too

Destinyduring the pandemic this just yeah it was crazy for everybody Visa wise so but then we'll probably do like I imagine we'll do like an official ceremony at some point we just have to like get the logistics set up and everything I think we've been together for long enough to like over like married we love each

Mary Morganother so I'm not familiar with all of the regulations or whatever but isn't there a timeline that if you reach like five years of marriage uh from a green card marriage you can get divorced and

Mary Morganthe person who is from another country can keep their green card and at that point do you think that you will divorce and then stay together I don't think we'd ever divorce but the um technically don't take legal advice to me but I

Destinythink if you're in the United States on a Visa and you're in the process of getting the green card you can break up already and still follow through in your green card process I've had a few friends that's done that yeah you don't even have to go through with the marriage technically so yeah and you come from a family where this is

Molinapractice right Molina um I think my parents did do you like swinger stuff and like open things like non-monogamous things together I don't know um not at the time like when I was a kid or anything but like later on when I was

Molinatalking to my mom when I was older and I was like but open relationship makes a lot more sense to me she's like oh yeah I did that too so it's like okay are your parents still together no no okay okay Destiny you didn't you come from like a

DestinyBible Belt background or no like yeah very good right conservative yeah yeah do you feel like that's catalyzed your political evolution I mean I'm not related to that at all anymore but it would be stupid to say that my upbringing didn't influence my

Destinypolitical stuff and I'm sure it has it's hard to know how it manifests exactly but yeah I was writing articles for my school newspaper supporting like Bush and the Iraq War when I was in high school so wow so you're on the other Spectrum from where you are right now my

Kikimom is Cuban so Cuban people in general are very very conservative socially conservative at the time yeah of course yeah very much like hated not hated gay people but very much against like LGBT stuff and all that

Destinyum when did that change as I through high school I became an atheist and then as I started to get more once I started streaming when I found like 21 22 once I started to make more money my political views started to

Jonathan (MLD)shift quite a bit interesting very interesting do you feel like you're getting interrogated right now I've answered all these questions this guy's like a super [ __ ] streamer this is not his first rodeo what's the largest what's the

Molinalargest stream you've been on how many live viewers I think it was when I was covering the Mischief [ __ ] yeah yeah I think I like it it was like 70 70k yeah it's on your stream yeah on YouTube yeah that's

Brian Atlaspretty lit it's pretty lit I might have missed this while I was adjusting my hair but uh I had oh you calmed it first yeah you know got to be presentable so you guys are in a polyamorous

Nevrelationship so and I apologize if I missed this do you guys both sleep with other people that's yeah so in what way are you not a cuck I heard that you got mad at me for calling you a cook well I got mad at you for calling me a [ __ ] because you didn't know anything about me and you were radiating more pick me

Nevenergy than I've ever seen in a girl in my entire life so yeah I thought it was really funny but how are you not a cup is what I asked you know what is that yeah what is a [ __ ] to you I guess you know someone likes Nico somebody watch is there a woman get [ __ ] by

Destinyanother man yeah I don't sit and watching a woman to [ __ ] by another man someone who allows that well someone who allows it is just something to open a relationship and how do you expect that to last for the next five years I mean it's lasted for four years which I think is longer than any relationship you've been in

Nevright yeah so I think I'm probably doing okay I'm 20. okay and I'm 34. and I don't have someone looking for a green card that's fine she's already got her Green Card she's free to leave if she wants do you

Mary Morganguys feel like you're going to be together into old age like do you want to stay together I had the same question yeah I hope so yeah do you have kids yeah yeah I think let's just let's just clear something up too hold on one more thing snico's not a cuck he did a one

Destinytime and he said it was not for him so you got to drop that okay good to know do you think he didn't even truly also to be fair he didn't do the cuck thing he went to a swingers party he wasn't into the swinger stuff yeah it's weird because like you know why the whole like

Destinysexual fetish you can explore related to Coco which by the way if people are into cooking that's knock yourself out that's cool do you know why he did it if I had to guess it's because he heavily models himself after men that he respects and Patrice O'Neill talked

Destinyabout it yeah it was the picture no like watch Patricia yeah but he did he didn't go to the party thinking like I want to watch my girlfriend get [ __ ] and jerk off in the corner he went to swing and then he wasn't into it and he left yeah no the reality was he like I think he

Jonathan (MLD)stepped out he felt guilty so he like gave her a free pass and then he did it one time he's like this is terrible I never want to experience this again and that's it so that's that was years ago it's not a cook in that case because the cook likes it yeah yeah yeah and it

Mary Morgancontinues down the path of [ __ ] holdre which he does not Nico's question um there was a clip of YouTube that kind of viral on Twitter a few days ago

Mary Morganwhere you started like ballroom dancing with some guy in the background of a stream what was the situation there and who was that guy yeah there's a guy on a YouTube called

DestinyAbba from Adam preach and I think it's gonna steal my girl for me is he no he so he dances she's got like a background wait I did not look devastated so you guys are watching it though no I don't

Destinywhen you guys are watching face though when you guys are watching clubs there's three responses I can have I can either like laugh about it in which case you're like oh my God he's coping or I can just sit there and just watch because I'm just watching my channel he's gonna be like oh my God he's secretly terrorized

Destinyor I can be like oh no guys like don't and like joke I'm gonna be like oh my God he's like secretly coming like there's literally no response they're gonna have because you're projecting like all of your insecurities on the situation are you seeing that guy no he's I'm gonna preach from the YouTube wait do you think that wait hold on do

Mary Morganyou think the dancing is [ __ ] because in that because there's a lot of there's a lot of there's a lot of children out there dancing and maybe you should do something about it you know oh yeah careful uh no I was just saying the

Jonathan (MLD)the reaction to the clip was obvious yeah I know but I don't understand why people are having a big reaction to I think they were also Destiny looks in here in it listen in his defense they were playing hello darkness my old friend and like zooming in on his face

Jonathan (MLD)to like you know show like maybe despair or something yeah

Molinaso I'm like I was competing in that sport so if I meet someone that does some sort of dancing that is with a partner I can like dance with them really well and that's like what's the fun out of it right I think she's saying like in a traditional sense of things it

Jonathan (MLD)looks bad on him but you guys don't have a traditional [ __ ] other people though I know I'm just saying no no that's what I'm saying you guys you guys don't have a trip like from a traditional standpoint from traditional span point it looks bad but you guys are not

Destinytraditional I think that's what she's saying it looks bad but wait wait wait wait hold on even in a traditional aspect like you can go to weddings like sometimes other people dance with other people yeah you know

Jonathan (MLD)if I marry my wife I'm not okay with her dancing with it and that's great your insecurities are yours to deal with but it's not insecurity it's not it's not an insecurity it's just a boundary I have it's not in

Destinythat's right but it's not but it's not it's not just not about security it's you saying that like in a traditional relationship this wouldn't be okay plenty of people dance with other people it's not a huge deal now if they were like [ __ ] grinding on each other some [ __ ] that'd be different but when they're going through like moves on like

Destinya ballroom dance thing I don't think I think that if you got a huge problem with that I think that's just more about it so wait why why is my boundary all of a sudden limited the problem wasn't your boundary the problem is you said well in a traditional relationship you made it sound like it was a boundary that

Jonathan (MLD)everybody should have no you wouldn't say just me personally okay I did say just me personally I say the way she's put her traditionally the way she the way they're perceiving you but from and then I built on it saying me personally I'm not okay with that sure okay for you personally hold on Billy you wanted to

Billy Raygo um I can change the subject a little bit if you want to no

Destinychildren what she's going to ask how can you raise you an open relationship and have children at the same time and then we're going to answer I would probably close the relationship that was my question what do you plan on doing when you have children yeah we would probably not be [ __ ] around as much because you

Chasewouldn't even have the time do you make eye contact when you speak or no I'm over here well kind of yeah but I can't really see it I don't want to block the camera because you know well it's actually better if he just kind of maintains more of the street my bad straight on

Brian Atlasum I do have a question for both of you guys out of curiosity how many how many men plan life thing for the uh 50 gifted we'll we'll get the we'll have to do the check later on in the show guys thank

Chaseyou man go ahead uh but besides Destiny in your guys relationship if you feel comfortable at answering how many men have you been with like total I actually don't really know usually it's just women

ChaseI'm not sure I mean it's like years ago right the last time you were with a guy besides Destiny in your relationship a long time ago usually just women okay how many how many women have you been with besides her in your relationship I don't think he keeps counting it's a lot

Chaseof them okay but like come on give me like a ballpark yes Destiny's [ __ ] in these YouTubers no it's not well where I'm going with this it's probably 10 times as many as mine it's a decent amount but it's a cringe to

Chasetalk about because it's not gonna like [ __ ] jerk off over like [ __ ] I I understand where I was going with that is like like when was the last time you were with a guy besides Destiny I don't remember a year ago two years ago three

Destinyyears something like that about a year ago I think within yeah when when that happened like did you feel comfortable with it based on the amount yeah generally this is the way that I approach it if I'm gonna hook up

Destinywith somebody it's kind of weird if your partner is out like [ __ ] somebody or hang out with somebody in like a semi-romantic way and then you're probably just like at home doing anything like nothing so usually if I'm going out doing something hopefully she's got like similar plans and then vice versa if she's got plans then I've

Destinygot plans so no I don't we don't usually feel bad about it because we're doing something together generally so it doesn't create insecurity for you guys at all I mean it's totally security basically like normal relationship like there might be times the only time I think that insecurity comes creeping in

Destinyis if there are other problems in the relationship so for instance like if we're fighting a lot and then somebody tries to like hook up with somebody then like that might cause people to feel a little bit weird but like otherwise no it's just neither of us care that much about if we did we wouldn't have an open relationship I mean I get turned on by

Aaronit so you get turned on by him okay yeah there's other chicks yeah so you're a [ __ ] Queen yeah I like that Queen yeah I guess that's a term exactly um wait can I ask the panel what the

Aaroninterest or like the angle is for interrogating their relationship to this extent for me I just genuinely don't know so I'm going straight to the source yeah I I don't I'm not interrogating them I

Aaronpersonally am just curious about it a little bit like it you guys are no I'm just I'm just close to like so we already I think yeah Aaron you're projecting interrogation onto me where it doesn't exist I'm I'm

Chaseasking because I'm I just know for myself is that the angle it's curiosity and and I'm I'm kind of probing into it because it's like I I can't imagine being in a situation where you know my girl was hooking up with another guy and

Chaseit wouldn't drive me insane and so you know if if it doesn't drive them insane why were you curious about the number of men

Molinathere's 15 000 people watching and I'm sure a lot of them would be curious so it's for the content so juices of course that's what it is it's a juicy question exactly curious It's like you're not trying to break there's there's an element of curiosity and there's also an

Aaronelement where I'm trying to make an interesting show for all the people that are watching I feel like just because they're in an open relationship maybe that doesn't mean they should be subjected to like particularly voluntarily

Aaronno I'm curious myself like I didn't expect that half the panel already would be just about their relationships

Chasebut you keep dodging all the questions so we're going to ask that question we can go to you then no let's go to you again you just did it again you're saying I don't want to steal the attention but you came to a dating show

Chaseand you've avoided all the questions about your dating life yeah besides the fact that you've never been on a date for my dating life it's kind of all under the same umbrella is it though of course it is yeah yeah of course it is you're on a dating podcast and you don't

Mary Morganthink that your dating life is up for discussion no I didn't say that it's all it's all connected questions for the monogamous people okay yeah so um wait you uh virgin

Aaronconfirm or deny just give us something give usually this is like the most pressing topic for the data it's literally a yes or no it'll take you one second to answer the question uh is it about the duration of how long it takes

Jonathan (MLD)to answer a question like that what's up with the soft history why don't you just answer it I mean you were evasive about why you were like Excavating I said I said because I was curious and because it's good content after after a lot of a lot of the deliberation immensely I feel

Jonathan (MLD)like fresh is the best one for her from the Friendship podcast I feel like she fits the the archetype that fresh goes after when what archetype is that chubby white girl got it

Aaronshots fired just joking fresh love you although I had a question for you go ahead go ahead I'm ready thanks plan life you said earlier with respect to like the dancing thing yes you said it would be a

Aaronboundary of yours to not let your partner or wife dance with another man correct is that really a boundary or isn't that more of an agreement I feel like a boundary is something that you

Aaronsay that I'm going to do or abstain but I don't know that a boundary can really like include um I totally think of them that way I think a boundaries

AaronI would independently decide I don't want to do or I do want to engage no I I I focus

DestinyStephen yeah I would I would I know you [ __ ] me you liked me I'm sorry I missed it there's a boundary they're talking about they're doing a boundary in an agreement and a contract continue I just know when you do your streams like you're playing factorio and [ __ ]

Brian Atlashello okay okay okay

Pixiejust wait wait wait wait I just want to say something um earlier you guys were talking about traditional relationships I was I was raised in a Hispanic traditional Catholic Family household

Pixieum the idea that dancing Ballroom or dancing in general is non-traditional to me is insane because like all of South America Central America Spain you know they dance salsa they dance merengue that is part like part of the culture

Brian Atlasand a lot of people there are very traditional very Hispanic Catholic well hold on hold on the issue is not with the actual dancing the issue is with Dancing with someone who's not your partner

Mary Morganwhy is that what they do yeah just part of the culture yeah I was literally born part of my culture when it comes to the reaction to that

Mary Morganvideo that I brought up it was because of the context around it

Destinythe issue is that right now everybody in like the red pill like culture that's like taken over like online [ __ ] is like obsessed with like cuck and everything related to it so much that I think it's actually hidden fantasy for a lot of the people to talk about it where like if a

Destinyguy is talking to somebody else or a girl's trying to sell like like people talk about it incessantly it's like [ __ ] insane more so than it would have been like even five or ten years you think it's like projection it's some kind of weird obsession with like being cocked or cut like to the point where in

Destinysome of these shows I don't think I've heard it here but people will say things like if your girlfriend has like a high body count you start dating her you got cucked well like if your girlfriend is like talking to another guy in a way that's getting it reminds me of like the old Fortune copy pasta where it's like the ultimate cuck is a father that

Destinyraises a daughter because he's preparing his daughter's [ __ ] to get pot

DestinyI don't think it has anything to do with me or the dancing because like she said in a lot of traditional cultures a lot of people dance and if you do like ballroom dance or competition you're not only competing with a boyfriend right you're like dancing with like partners and other people practice with you and everything so I just think the obsession

Mary Morganhas to do like the current culture around like the whole [ __ ] like this is an obsession I think that cuckoldry and other weird fetishes are being pushed in both pornography and pop culture and people are just responding

Destinyto that absolutely is an actual fetish is really rare I think that people recognize degeneracy and they naturally say something so it's the it's like this weird like degenerate angle and then like the red pill stuff and kind of the

Mary Morgantrack kind of stuff and the funny stuff there's a there's a right way to express sexuality and a wrong way and I guess you're saying there's not a right or wrong I've never said that at all there's plenty like well you put

Destinydegeneracy and weird and Eric well because anything that you would consider sexually degenerate yeah but he said we weren't allowed to talk about some of that so those those subjects would you say those are the only things

Destinyyou're allowed to partake in it in Broad speaking terms as long as people are exercising or practicing some sexual thing that's between them and it's not hurting anybody else in general I think it's probably okay for people to do that if you want to have like a pure monogamous relationship if you want to be abstinent so you get married or

Destinywhatever and that's how you want to explain I think that's totally fine but it seems like people from some backgrounds find that they can be incredibly judgmental of other people's like sexual exploration which is really weird to me because they'll get really fixated on it like I've never had a conversation before where I'm like

Destinywhat's it like to like only have your husband or boyfriend's dick like going in and out of your [ __ ] like these like really explicit conversations but then people come to me and it's like what do you think about like your wife like [ __ ] other guys and [ __ ] and it's like it's really weird that I'll get

Destinylike really or like even earlier he's like so you're bisexual I think you asked me right do you [ __ ] guys in the ass if you take dick in your ass I'm like that's a real thing you asked if I was a top or bottom right that's essentially what you're asking right which is fine I don't care like the expansion questions are fun and I'm used

Destinyto dealing with it but it's interesting to me that based on my lifestyle I'll get like these really explicit questions and I feel like if you're in a more traditional relationship if somebody asks you that you're like well that's like way over the line which I think is an interesting that's probably questions

Mary Morganwhat by me asking there's nothing you can say the world I think people in ask questions about your relationship because I would say the vast majority they don't think that it's normal or

Mary Morganconducive to a flourishing long-term relationship and that's fine especially a marriage because they think it's fundamentally humiliating to a man to not have sexual exclusivity with his wife and that's totally fine but the way

Destinythat the questions are rephrased was earlier was I'm just curious but it's not a curiosity I didn't say that but sure that I said that it's not an actual curiosity that's right yeah there's a normative loading of like you're doing something that I don't approve of and

Destinynow I'm going to question you on it which is fine but like if we want to get into that then we can get into that well I mean rather than like they're like oh well I'm just curious like does it bother you that somebody else might like come on your what and I'm like Jesus Christ I don't know let's let's back up

Chasea second yeah you're kind of projecting that the disapproval does exist but the question because these two at least have explicitly said it right yeah so it does existed it's not necessarily that the questions

Chaseare rooted in disapproval it's more just that like like your guys's relationship Dynamic is it's a taboo in society so people are curious and they have questions right well you are I think you're curious I'm treating you as good faith you're curious like these two are the very least and by the way there's nothing wrong with being disapproving

Destinybut these two questions are coming from like a don't you realize that this is really bad is I like that that's like the angle of the question basically which is like understanding or curious yeah it's like I'm just gonna bully you okay for what you're doing and you're just fine do you guys feel bullied by

Brian Atlasthem I don't feel bullied I love it Molina does a little bit no it's just like negativity not understanding yeah yeah can you work on trying to find the

Brian Atlaswhat would be a good keyword for us to uh I mean I don't want to do that hold on I don't want to do the video where there's like the music over it I want you with the music and resume if you want whatever you want copyright

Destinyum try to Eric try to find just Abba Destiny dancing video while we do that I just have pretty sure you go to Twitter or Andrew Tate's Twitter everybody's everybody's recently to the video so you can find it on there probably wait I'm

Pixiekind of curious how do you guys Define degeneracy like what do you guys do you guys have like a general definition for it or do you just say like oh I don't like that it's the general I mean I I personally I don't know about you guys I would personally say off the cuff things

Chasethat like degenerate the stability of society right ones that are contributing to the fall of the West yes okay but so like this is the examples Chase yeah like this is still a very good exactly

Chaseexamples of degeneracy examples of degeneracy I would say like uh women getting ran through in their 20s I think I think polyamory is degenerate no offense um I think it has damp if if it was to

Chasebe widespread throughout Society I think it would really tear and rip at the fabric of society and things would fall apart very quickly don't homosexuality transsexuality and then like you know stuff like alcoholism addiction all these kind of things like

PixieI think all that's degenerate you know okay your definition of degeneracy is basically um if everybody did it then society would fall apart and that's why it's generate if just one person does it it's

Chaseit's degenerate for both Society at large and also for individuals right like homosexuality for example there's a lot of homosexuals that have early mortality because of the diseases that are associated with homosexuality you

Chasecould also say the same for people that have you know do rampant fornication get STDs through that it's degenerate for the individual as well and it starts to wear a part of their body their mind their soul all these things right it's

Aaronvery unhealthy on an individual level and on a societal level as well and you're worried about this specifically degenerating the West like homosexuality you know all of this cuckold tree uh I

Chasewould say I would say the the evidence is abundant that it is currently degenerating it is already generating a massive rate yeah gender bending sodomy homosexuality these things have never

John Doylehappened in Europe that's so true they however symptoms of like the declining societies I mean we're not the first people to think that you can like have sex with a guy or change your gender I mean there have been sexual Revolutions in different capacities throughout history and no Society has ever survived

Aaronthose types of revolutions typically like a sign of the decline happening Sodom and Gomorrah do you think our society is on the brink of collapse I don't know if I would say the brink I think that's alarmist but we're definitely uh heading in the wrong direction every marker of a healthy

Pixienation in America is heading in the opposite direction just because of what people are doing I don't think that it's not just because of that yeah do you think it's too sophisticated yeah I think these things are what were the cause of collapse or do you think that

Pixiethere are other factors like economic factors or factors relating to like let's say um illness disease widespread that might be the cause or the causes of the societies falling the only disease killing America is like the woke mind

Destinyvirus where everybody just like trying to [ __ ] woke up there was a literal disease killing America

Destinyas Progressive as you are like you've seen sometimes these people are too [ __ ] I fight with them all the time no no I don't recognize it like conservatives are really telling people not to get vaccinated but we think that like gay people are like ruining Society more than that but no there's there's

Jonathan (MLD)good there's good reason for that though yes there is tell us the reason why is gay people I saw one woman I saw one woman take the vaccine speaking to listen I saw one woman take the vaccine and become [ __ ] that was enough for me to be like no I'm just not gonna

Nev[ __ ] do it you know what's what's the toss one person did not take the vaccine and die that was enough for me let's let's avoid the vaccine talk let's let's avoid the vaccine no no I I do agree though because like especially with like

NevHollywood and tick tock tick tock is like predominantly used by teens and the algorithm is sort of catered towards left lenient ideals like oh there's this there's that and it's sort of teaching kids that this is what you have to be

Jonathan (MLD)this is the right way to think and it sort of shames them into forming their own opinions I mean it's controlled by I mean it's controlled by China and bite dance like if the actual Chinese Tick Tock doing is

Jonathan (MLD)actually feeding their population way different stuff like Engineers scientists like these kids over in China like the number one career they want to be is like an astronaut in America it's

Chasea YouTuber yeah I think I think The Tick-Tock algorithm is probably fifth generation Warfare that China is using thousand percent China continually divide America and push us towards a collapse Civil War if you touched like

Jonathan (MLD)Main Street like regular people behind the firewall in China they don't [ __ ] like America at all at all and they're like totally down for Chinese domination

Destinywe're their biggest trading partnering Focus though because it's so well I think I think just a dating podcast I noticed this with a lot of this kind of like red pill stuff is that like everything I

Destinydidn't cut you off for record I wanted to hear your perspective yeah no no I didn't see you coming up did you no no no just continue with your thoughts yeah there's like it's never just about like dating or just about Tick Tock it's always got to be part of this grander plan to like like I like how we get into

Destinythis conversation like what about your relationship well I think this is causing the fall of the West and it's like holy [ __ ] like geez

Chasewhy is gay sex causing damage to society okay so that's a great question what I would say is the family is at the Bedrock of civilization as a whole if you have a nation full of Healthy Families then you're going to have a

Chasehealthy Nation right but there's an attack on the nuclear family feminism is a prime example right feminism is something that divides men and women it causes a lot of tension in households and as a result of that that you know that's one thing that contributes to

MolinaBroken families if you have a nation that's full of broken families you have a nation that's slowly going to fall apart and we see that happening right now all right a lot of likes there aren't a lot of heterosexual like marriages ending in divorce anyway so it

Molinahas nothing to do with gay sex or anything okay yeah your question is a lot of family that's already breaking apart from for other reasons so so why are you not focusing on those sort of things so let's I'll answer it in the frame of homosexuality have you seen

Chaselike any of the data on population collapse that's projected in the next like 50 years there's a lot of countries around the world that are not uh having children at the replacement rate necessary in order to continue maintaining their their society have you

Chaseseen any of that data I'm very familiar with I am okay so like you know the Elon Musk talks about this all the time if and if you look at the data on homosexuality like a few Generations ago it was like less than two percent of people were homosexual and it's five

Destinypercent ten percent gen Z they're around like 23 identifying as lgbtq to clarify if we're going to do geopolitics the 20 identifying is lgbtq are most are predominantly bisexual it's

Destinynot people that are actually becoming gay number one number two population collab is not happening because of degeneracy or LGBT stuff I would say it's a contributing factor that's fine but you'd be wrong the reason why it's happening is because when countries develop and people are given the opportunity to explore lives they're not

Destinyjust saying like oh I'm 22 I'm gonna have a ton of kids that's been the big issue now I feel really strongly about this because there arguably is an issue relating to population collapse like we can talk about replacing people or whatever but like those conversations

Destinyneed to be intelligent and they have to revolve around what's actually happening which is women getting access to reproductive control like birth control and women entering school and the job market those are the two massive driving factors the reality is is if you put a bright future in front of somebody and

Destinyyou say you want to pursue that or do you want to have four kids by the time you're 24 most women are reasonably choosing like oh I think I'd rather actually like live my life and do this so I'm pretty sure every single woman at this table is probably made the same choices all the conservative women that talk about it generally make the same

Destinychoices but they'll tell you like oh like look at just pearly things right we'll Echo all of the we need to have kids and blah blah and she doesn't either right I think that the issue is that we've given women access to all of these things and they really enjoy it and now we need to have a conversation what are we going to do for a future population because blaming gay people

Chaseisn't going to put that back in the box I think that's the big issue those are those are some Fair points please please Erin hold on a second let me respond to everything that he just said sure okay go for it

Chaseyou raised a number of fair points the idea that like the most attractive thing to women is going out there making their career like living their life so on and so forth and that's what like basically all these women want

Chaseconservative women included I would rebut that by saying I I've heard from thousands of women that are in the early 20s conservative especially and all they want is to have kids but they're finding it difficult to find a man who actually

Chasewants marriage and who also can provide for them like I hear from girls every single day they're like I wish so badly I could find a guy who would want to get married and would want to have kids with me okay that like the idea that all

Chasethese women would just want to go out there and like live their lives and have their careers and stuff that's not true that's great but I can't argue against your thousands of women all I can do is look at stuff right right showing that women are increasingly less happy yes

Destinystats on happiness have been notoriously difficult to track but if we look at actual behaviors women are over like for instance what we what we would have said 40 or 50 years ago is women don't really like school and they're not going to sit in math class because women just don't learn like that they don't enjoy doing that and what we've seen is when we open

Destinyschools to women not only are they doing really well they potentially out-compete men in schools they might even be more geared towards like learning in a classroom environment than men who would rather like go outside and play and like be more physical right so I think we have to be careful with this assumption that women are built to want to have

Destinychildren and do that a ton because women are overwhelmingly choosing to go to college and go get jobs and like enter the career field I think that if we just work on the assumption that well they don't really want to do that we're going to be having the same conversation 20 30 40 years and people like you're going to be like well I don't know what's

Destinyhappening is it the woke people pushing women to to go to college or I don't know like well I've talked to hundreds of women that seem unhappy well if you're really a woman I mean this is true if you're 21 20 to 23 and you're looking to have a family to settle down you can do it you're going to find a man

Destinythat'll want to do it but you just you can't live they can't you can't but they promise they want that but then they want to live in LA Miami New York Austin a lot of them don't know I promise if you're a woman and you want to find a husband that will take care of

Destinyyou just have kids you know go to the [ __ ] Midwest go to [ __ ] Montana go to [ __ ] there's tons of plays we can find men that will do this but you don't want to do that you want to live in one of the 10 most expensive cities in the United States

Chasethat's a fair point but to go back to the original subject I would say like hookup culture our current dating culture that is especially incentivizes like the red pill stuff that especially

Chaseincentivizes men to like increase their value and go and hook up with as many women as they possibly can like that's something that's degenerate that's decreasing the birth rates to just pass off the whole like lgbtq rates increasing as a non-factor when it comes

Chaseto population replacement I don't think that's fair obviously if you have a quarter of your population that's not interested in heterosexual monogamous relationships not a quarter those are mainly bisexuals but even even bisexual

Chaselike the people the people that are being conditioned by our culture to be interested in that like that's obviously going to have a negative effect on birth rates so it does play into it it doesn't I promise you what could you say because if you Google everything an

Destinyindustrialized country on Earth as they become industrialized women have less children every single industrial country he's a thousand percent right the more a country Trends towards being more industrialized the birth rate does drop

Chaseyes yes and and that database the original question was how does homosexuality contribute

Aaronalso being homosexual doesn't actually preclude you from fathering any children

Brian Atlason the top of the to-do list for gay guys gay guys aren't like trying to [ __ ] start a family hold on hold on let's move away from this topic because it's probably a little POS it's probably

Brian Atlasa little [ __ ] to us uh wait is it probably I mean population stuff I mean talking about I doubt it I doubt it personally if you want to change the subject yeah I I do need to I do need to announce a couple things here so I feel like you should give it because she

Nevwanted to talk for a long time and we cut her off a lot you should give it I was just gonna say I think partially the reason why women are so unhappy in these and not finding people is because of the the very recent Embrace of promiscuity

Nevhow they're putting themselves out there as like I don't want to say [ __ ] because that's a bit Draconian but you know the hookup culture has really destroyed everyone both sides men and

Nevwomen yeah 100 yep um so hold on hold on hold on okay so we I mean you feel great because you're married to like a millionaire just a heads up but I'm making a lot of money myself as well a good amount

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Brian Atlaschapters 30 L feminism um okay I guess show of hands who here grew up with their mother and father in tactical mother and

Brian Atlasfather biological mother father okay all right we have a non would be interesting to hear Virgin Mary debate farha that's your friend yeah

Brian Atlasuh Mia Khalifa from a couple shows ago both very smart and logical but completely opposite perspectives it seems we're I think we're gonna have her back so that could be cool to get a ranch quick question on pharah I

Brian Atlasasked her if she was interested in you that's so creepy what the [ __ ] why is Zachary I'm just saying I'm trying I'm trying to be your wingman destiny I'll answer that question if you tell me if you two who would be the

Molinatopper bottom yo what the [ __ ] I'm actually gonna imagine it or if I'm okay with doing that yeah it sounds great I don't consent yeah but you've been imagining you how is him asking that creepy when you've literally been

Aarongraphically explaining like gay sex like Oh Come This is that because you guys are the ones asking the questions like Juvenile and childish to be like oh it's you and pharah like you know what's juveniles

Brian AtlasJuvenile and childish your refusal to just answer a basic question and can continually try to is it to answer that question or is like asking the question in the first one why is it why is it every time you get asked a question you

Aaronrespond with another question and you're probably gonna do it right now but I'd like just a straight response yeah yeah why can't why can't you just give a straight response you do really like straight things right like straight people heterosexuality yeah

Aaronokay yeah why are you being bad faith why I mean you came to a dating podcast why were you yeah we have a womp womp womp I think bad faith would be you guys saying that you just had a curiosity in their open relationship and then yeah

Nevyou wonder yeah that's what I was gonna say you know wonder why you haven't had a boyfriend [ __ ] I don't know you're breaking my heart oh sorry all right someone are you gonna keep this up

Aaronfor the rest of the podcast like will you answer the answer you know the answer for a long time that's pretty good stamina like you make me wonderful so did you did you just come to troll oh

Kikiof course not it's a very serious dating fresh get your girl bro fresh get your girl DM her it's a waste of time all right yeah yeah we have to get back to the serious questions like uh Destiny

ChaseChopper bottom why are you so curious kind of a bad faith question towards Destiny he already said he doesn't want to answer it true what are we gonna talk about next you guys where were we

Aaronwere reading super chats what's the next one yeah just go through the series and I'm still waiting on the video of him

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