03:54:09Alex ClarkI'm pursues to pay I think second although it's nice I just think first just like with taking a guy's last name and all that kind of stuff I think it is a good thing it's a it's a good Act of Faith for the guy to pay first day and then yes second date she can offer to
03:54:22Alex Clarkpay let's go for ice cream or whatever like she offers third date maybe she cooks for him or whatever but then there's no guarantee of a second date
03:54:32Monicayou'll know before the date is over if you wanna how many of the women how many of them actually wanted a second date
03:54:44Brian Atlashow many of the first dates I um yeah oh it's funny you laugh really good question uh I would say like First Dates
03:54:56Brian AtlasI think it was like 50 percent I think okay 50 and how did how did you guys proceed after what do you mean like
03:55:07Brian Atlasdid you did she pay for the second date did you pay for the second date well see I I wasn't really paying for the first date ever really I've paid occasionally on first date no no once you went on the second day so you didn't pay on the
03:55:19Brian Atlasfirst date the women who wanted a second date were fine with that I'm assuming they were okay with that yeah so you went on a second date so what happened the second date well okay
03:55:31Christysecond date I mean she's coming to my place you know what I mean oh God no what's your body what's your body count oh I'm a man of God I don't
03:55:43Christyreveal that well she's coming to your place the second date what do you mean I'm not waiting until marriage I know but did you did you ever answer what your body count was yes no I'm a man of God I don't share that yeah yeah but
03:55:56Christyshe's coming to your place the second date yeah why not a little bit like well you've never you're dirty Never Say Never I think your ratio is
03:56:05Christyway higher than mine my ratio yeah yeah what do you mean I mean I I don't go to guys houses on second day it's to do you think do you think that you have the highest body count at this table
03:56:18Brian Atlasyeah just be just like you don't see the numbers Q what's your body count uh six six what
03:56:28Christythree Triple J no but we but we agree that the ratio is the same I think you do get like yo the ratio is the
03:56:37Brian Atlasratio is it is no Kelly you're breaking my heart breaking my smart classes
03:56:49Brian Atlasyou could stay for another hour no big deal it's no big deal this is 9 A.M 9 p.m sorry I know and then that
03:57:01Brian Atlasmeans I have school in like it's all good if you know if you gotta take off it's this one's fine um
03:57:11Brian Atlasanother one bites the dust Another One Bites the Dust um Okay so what what was the question
03:57:21Christyum your body counts I think you asked him like a question Nick I put the mic on the ground and you and you said something about the race oh you're right yeah the ratio okay
03:57:34Brian Atlasso you're saying like the written but but you're saying okay your whole thing with body count as well it's the ratio it's how many people want to sleep with you and you say no to kind of right yeah it's about the opportunity
03:57:47Christypeople took 12 opportunities that's a lot than if 100 people wanted to sleep with you and you took 12 opportunities okay
03:57:58Christyperhaps perhaps if you're comparing but when it comes to body count it's it's a little different but because the number like a not one number if we both
03:58:11Christysay three three but you've only had three opportunities and I've had ten three Smite sound like it's completely different you know or if I say I reject
03:58:21Brian AtlasI reject your ratio I think here's why hold on let me explain it let me let me explain your mind is at least thinking again let me know it's magical but I'm thinking about desirability because if
03:58:33Christyyou're a woman you're going to get more opportunities but you're also more selective as a woman yeah so whereas a man if you get more opportunities you probably take more because you're the best which is so but it's so
03:58:45Christyit's not about the number well okay here's when it comes to the ratio though let's say also does it matter what age you add sex okay hold on let me finish
03:58:55Brian Atlasmy point oh God when it comes to the ratio let's say somebody a woman has slept with one guy but Horatio sucks like let's say it's she only had one
03:59:07Brian Atlasopportunity let's say she had ten I don't know she slept with one guy versus a woman who slept with a hundred guys but she's had a million opportunities
03:59:16Brian Atlasare you going to come out on it are you about to are you prepared to argue that the woman who slept with one man is than the woman who slept with a hundred
03:59:29Christyokay so how many opportunities did she get okay she got ten wait we're in those examples a hundred a hundred to a million
03:59:43Brian Atlasyeah I mean it's not my fault that she's so no but the girl the girl who slept hold on no no no no hold on the girl who slept with a hundred people if she's had
03:59:53Brian Atlasa million opportunities technically her ratio is better than the girl who slept with one guy who's had 10 opportunities
04:00:02Christyso your whole ratio thing is I mean bogus no it's not but the thing is like okay so you're saying so so if it's not so if it's the other day okay but so you're saying that hold on let me
04:00:16Brian Atlasask you a question the girl that slept with a hundred men who had a million opportunities is less than the girl who's only slept with one guy
04:00:25Christyaccording to your ratio they'd be pretty equal to be honest equal yeah a girl who slept with a hundred men is equal to a
04:00:33Christygirl who slept through one yeah I can't bro it is send send she might have only slept with one but like she
04:00:43Christydidn't get that many offices did that many opportunities
04:00:52Brian Atlasto this podcast Studio you're saying the woman who's okay you're saying the woman you have to just do the math on it
04:01:03Brian Atlasokay how about a woman with a who slept with a thousand a woman slept with a thousand people out of a million out of a billion she's had a billion a lot when
04:01:14Christyyou knew the math on it though I mean the guys next to me before we're at 1600 he said regardless that's a lot of bodies regardless I know you everyone
04:01:26Christyhates the regia the ratio doesn't I mean if I wasn't ratio Christy and not and I was rasping you're raspy crispy but I know because that's more of a disc but I
04:01:36ChristyI think it should be appreciate Christy I can't eat I'm gonna my next job is gonna be a mathematician actually since everyone wants me to shop my own hands down so badly I'm Gonna Change careers
04:01:48Brian Atlasit's mathematics okay we have Bender the offender here did I already read this blue collar workers are not as valued anymore and it truly breaks my heart because those men
04:01:59Brian AtlasKeep the Country running very true instead people in today's society value women who do sex work and value their career over a husband's based very true
04:02:09ChristyBender the offender very true I'm not against Blue Collar jobs at all I just um well I'm engaged
04:02:20ChristyI don't go really out on dates with people and not um yeah
04:02:31Brian Atlasyour your ratio thing only works if you're comparing a woman like women who have equivalent body counts in those circumstances your ratio thing you can
04:02:42Brian Atlasmake the argument that it makes somewhat sense in that context however you cannot make the argument that a woman with a higher body count it like compared to a
04:02:53Christywoman with a lower body count because of the ratio there's also things that I have to do with it like your age and how old you are like obviously if there's a
04:03:03Christygirl that's 33 or got 33 and someone that's 23 and 33 and they've been single for the same amount of time like they're gonna have like more opportunities or if
04:03:15Christysomeone's been a very very long-term relationship and someone has it and like they're gonna have different opportunities so you there's just more that goes into it than just being able to say one body count number because is
04:03:28Christygonna sound like one might sound high and one might sound low but you have to look more and obvious erroneous he says erroneous I think it's around you guys are running the show all right Bender
04:03:40Brian Atlasthe offender side note I work in a steel mill when Christy said that men who work Blue Collar jobs is a red flag I was thinking don't you support Trump and he supports the blue collar I'm not it just doesn't matter I just
04:03:55ChristyI just I don't know what you look like if you have a really long blonde hair with a man bun um I would consider it I just don't see I don't see it in my future
04:04:06Brian AtlasI love one your type is a guy with a long blonde hair and a man bun yeah oh okay yeah that's my favorite thing ever ever
04:04:18Brian Atlaslike like the long blonde hair gets me but not in a liberal all right we're gonna react to the videos and then we're gonna wrap up the show um Nick can you pull up the first video please
04:04:35Brian AtlasI think it's just the video foreign it's the woman yeah
04:04:47TTS/Video Readerhere's what to say to a man who cares about your body count I saw a video the other day where a guy was asked whether he thinks body count matters than a woman he's about to date to which he responded if a girl is ran through then she's for everybody else I kind of feel like guys want girls for themselves we
04:04:59TTS/Video Readercare about women's body count because we want them to be all for ourselves we don't want them to be any other guy we want to provide for them we want to be the man in their world and then he went to go on and say that zero was his ideal body count for a woman because she got to be a virgin I gotta take that ish and
04:05:13TTS/Video Readershow her what it's about because she's going to be mine at the end of the day my dearest Man Child what you're describing here is the fact that you see women as objects that you can have all for your little self because the reality is your concern with your body count shows how little faith you have in yourself that you'll measure up to any
04:05:26TTS/Video Readerof the men she's been with before you a woman who's never been with another man can't find you disappointing in or out of bed because she has no one to compare you to and while I think it's admirable that you think you want to provide for a woman and be the man in her world I think what you mean is that you want her to think that you're the only one who
04:05:39TTS/Video Readercan provide for her because that's how you control her because you are not secure enough in yourself to be with a woman who is free to leave you but chooses not to and so in conclusion ladies your body count is your past and any man preoccupied with your past has no faith in himself to make your future
04:05:51TTS/Video Readerbetter so the next time a man asks you what your body count is tell him it's not his freaking business and leave the date as quickly as possible because why spend any time with a man who doesn't realize that even though your past and where you came from does matter what matters more is what you learn from your
04:06:02Christypast and where you're going next I love that that's amazing I can't believe you guys just explained that to be honest what what do you mean that was
04:06:13Christyawesome she's she's correct you you agree yeah your body you have a body gown doesn't even matter and it's like it does though the ratio
04:06:25Christymatters but like she just said the body count doesn't matter and to leave it so an ass like that's cool so you don't think you think I agree with what she's saying you think a woman who slept with
04:06:36Christya hundred men I don't comparable to a woman who's only slept with one I I said my I actually did say my body count was like around 22 I
04:06:45Christydidn't bring my diary with me but that's a very very low body count and so I'm not saying is 23 a low body count for being 33 years old the average is six
04:06:57Christyfor women compared to like how many opportunities I have on a daily basis I know like modern times that is a little body yeah so I'm not like like I'm I'm
04:07:10Christynot like add like I don't think people should just everyone and even though everyone thinks I think that but um but I agree with her like it's kind of none of your business if you meet someone and
04:07:22Christyhate it off like why does it even why was the past matter cue do you have a response to her and then also a reaction to uh the video I love that video Iran
04:07:34Qbody count matter women oh body count matters women who say body count doesn't matter and specifically we're not talking about whether it does to men or not because this is the argument that women typically make why should my body count
04:07:46Qmatter the first reason it matters is biologically evolutionarily paternity uncertainty it's a natural psychological adaptation for men to feel repulsed by body count because it's indicative that
04:07:58Qtheir paternity will not be in short that's the biological evolutionary explanation secondly women are not very Discerning about the men that they lay down with if you pay attention to women
04:08:09Qwho actually sleep with men a lot of men try to get in without condoms you notice that it's a STI rates go up that's the second thing third the psychological
04:08:19Qeffects that it has on women women typically are promiscuous when they have something else going on substance abuse uh former abuse in their early teen stages these kind of things manifest
04:08:31Qthat's why a woman's past matters because it's indicative that she has poor she'll exhibit poor behavioral Tendencies she falls into ways that are not conducive to a healthy relationship they'll be you know manifested in one
04:08:45Qway or another within the relationship that's why it's important so there are a whole bunch of markers that high body counts indicate and it's also indicative it can be a gene there's actually been a gene that's been found for promiscuity
04:08:56Qin women and in men it's called the d The Dr R4 Gene I believe that's the correct Gene it's actually associated with promiscuity so the whole pair bonding thing is not even
04:09:08Qthe more men you sleep with you it affects your ability to parabond is you suck at pair bonding from the jump which is why you become promiscuous you naturally fall in a cycle of dating men
04:09:18Alex Clarksleeping with men and that's essentially what it boils down to everything you're saying is correct but you yourself are not willing to not have sex before marriage you're contributing to all these women
04:09:30Qand you're allowed to be for Miss Chris but she's not well yeah but I don't think I don't think yeah because y'all because y'all still speaking about the double y'all still speaking about the double standard in
04:09:43Qthis because it's a disadvantage to y'all it's a disadvant it's a disadvantage to y'all it's a disadvantage that's why you don't like it to both men and women to have a higher body count and everything that
04:09:55Qwoman said it was like she was she was half there but why is that but why is it a disadvantage why why do you consider it a disadvantage to men as opposed to women when women don't go out of their way a man will stop dating you if he
04:10:07Alex Clarkfinds out you have too many bodies for his liking whatever that may be you're like a man the higher your body count is for men and women men and women who get married who have higher body counts both of them yes I'm well aware
04:10:19QI'm well aware it's more pronounced in women though yeah and I'm well aware of what you're saying you're not wrong but what I'm saying is attitude towards body count like I did my own study on this as well and I asked men if you found out
04:10:31Qyour woman had a promiscuous past how would you feel and I gave him the options discussed in different repulsed Etc the responses were overwhelmingly repulsed disgusted and then I asked
04:10:43Qanother question surveyed some more men and asked them would you ultimately end the relationship the majority of men said they would now compared to women it's not the same results
04:10:56TTS Readerstochastic Decay has a question for old recipe you sit there and talk about ratio this ratio that and how the rest of the panel doesn't understand math
04:11:06TTS Readerwhat's the ratio of duck size to Gluck looks that resulted in your vocal core damage well the biggest was 12 12 inches yeah
04:11:18Christyotherwise I measured it you can see for yourself in my only dance I put the measuring tape next to it so yeah wow send the asteroid okay I mean
04:11:30ChristyI never knew it but I feel like it's pretty big for a way
04:11:39Madisonsorry but like I think that I just said something she had to clarify what's that song by The Offspring Pretty I mean it's pretty rare to find I'm not gonna
04:11:52Christylie okay but my voice was Rassy way way before this like I've always had a raspy voice it's way
04:12:03Christybefore I even had sex yeah I didn't have sex till I was 18. okay and people started talking about my raspy voice when I was around 16 so good time wait so your voice has been raspy your whole
04:12:13Christylife yeah oh okay so it runs in the family is that my mom's is her husband too that could be genetic that's interesting okay twins also run my
04:12:24Brian Atlasfamily yeah well I like bringing it back to the video do any of you do you let's go around the table on this your reaction to the video agree disagree um
04:12:34MonicaI would disagree with her only be well to a certain extent like if I'm planning on dating you and you ask me like what's your body count I'ma tell you but if I
04:12:45Monicadon't have any like form or if I don't want to pursue anything more with you I'm not like it doesn't matter okay
04:12:57JuanI think the question of does does body count matter depends on what you mean by matter like there's two ways you could there's two things you can mean when you ask this question and one would be
04:13:07Juandoesn't matter for the partner and how he perceives a partner and the the other way to answer the question would be doesn't matter for the individual as in their mental and emotional health when
04:13:18Juanthey increase their body count number so you know I think for the the question of it doesn't matter for the perception of the partner it really just depends I mean some people care some people don't so it's like do people care the length
04:13:31Juanof their hair of their partner I think for some people have strong preferences some people don't so I think you you can look at the data and the generalizations but that's really going to be an individual question yeah as with most
04:13:42Juanthings yeah with most things as far as the the individual part of it I think that depends on the the person as well because for some people you know I think we can all agree if we're using sleeping
04:13:53Juanwith a lot of people to to fill a void whether that be loneliness addiction and you know need for validation need for attention need to feel love that's probably a negative thing
04:14:03Juanum but you know is there any good reason to sleep with a lot of people no no I would say that for some people they can separate sort of the intimacy part of it from the
04:14:15Juanum sort of the Casual part of it sounds like a bad thing I can't do that oops yeah I think it's really hard to do but I you know I've seen people do it I think it's pretty yes wait like the intimate from the physical
04:14:27Juanor yeah from the physical yeah yeah so so like an example for example I was involved in the the partner dance Community for a long time so um one thing that happens in the partner dance community that can be a very intimate thing you're you know hugging
04:14:41Juaneach other you're breathing together there's a lead and a follow and so it can be a very intimate experience but you're also sort of Dancing with the person and then saying like thank you so much like
04:14:51Juanum goodbye and then you ask the next person to dance so it can be a very intimate experience but you can also kind of frame it in a way where this is a dance where we're sort of sharing this connection so I think it's hard to do
04:15:03Juanbut some people do are able to frame that in a way with sex as well where it doesn't really affect their intimacy because when they are having sex with an intimate um not intimate but with like a partner that they really love or in a committed
04:15:16Juanrelationship with it means something different then we're doing it more casually can be different until they catch herpes but um I honestly agree with everything that
04:15:27Qshe said okay also can I add one more thing yeah of course um of course another reason it matters is because of the orgasm Gap yeah women are if if men's motivation
04:15:38Qfor sex is because we know we're going to orgasm then we're much more inclined to want to have sex whereas women when they engage in casual sex you're less likely to orgasm yeah yeah you usually
04:15:49Qdon't orgasm if you have sex let them finish yeah you usually don't orgasm if you have sex especially with a casual and things that help women orgasm or things like liking the guy and the guy being familiar with your body and you
04:16:01Qbeing attracted to the guy so essentially if you want to compare it women waste their time more and sex involves more of a risk than a reward for a woman than it does for a man yeah I absolutely agree with that familiarity
04:16:13Juanis sort of has like a double-edged sword because on one hand familiarity like you said can breed Comfort can be trust and that can lead to better and higher quality sex more orgasms exactly on the
04:16:24Juanother hand familiarity can sort of lead to boredom for some people and so you know it sort of has a double-edged sword in like which way which way it swings
04:16:40Christywhat you're saying what you're saying too like why would I have sex with someone if I'm not emotionally connected and can't have an orgasm that doesn't make any sense I'll quickly address the video uh
04:16:52Brian Atlasit's very interesting like basically she's saying she's basically shaming men for their preferences standards and boundaries men are not allowed to have preferences
04:17:02Brian Atlasstandards and uh boundaries what did she say oh it's insecure I'm trying to think what else she said it's
04:17:10Brian Atlasinsecure for a variety of reasons and uh I fail to see how it's about insecurity when well for some of the reasons outlined why can be an indicator for
04:17:21Christyvarious things she also said it's not your business it's not and she said like if you're that great like your past doesn't matter because she won't be like thinking of course
04:17:34Brian Atlaspeople's past matters I'm I'm sure she would object like she may very well want to disqualify a potential partner because of a criminal history oh no no no what she said she said was if you're
04:17:46Monicabecause the bodies are from my past and if you're focused on my past we can't build a future that's what she said I mean that's a
04:17:55Brian Atlasthat's a what's it called a uh I think platitude but I I it's I I reject it but go ahead men and women are
04:18:08Juanabsolutely allowed to have um body body count preferences you know anyone can have their their preferences I don't think there's so that part I would agree with you that I disagree with what she was saying that I don't
04:18:19Christythink men nor women should be shamed for having a preference about that or really anything people have preferences about every single thing like I Prefer Blondes and you prefer girls that want to pay up
04:18:31Christyfor the first date like we're all loud okay we're all attracting we're down to split okay awesome I'm not but like we all have our preferences and we're all gonna attract completely different
04:18:41Brian Atlaspeople because we're all so different I'll pay if she has a large labia how about that
04:19:02Brian Atlasand be like what's up Brian I'm 410 and I got a large labia what's up oh okay so let's see how many dates you get from you know what I actually have had a couple women DM me telling me sure
04:19:13Brian AtlasI'm no they'll they've told me like your life we are soul mates wait do you have a no that's what the girls are probably DMV what's up I I'm saying that's what
04:19:25Christythe girls are probably huh is that not what they say my my lady is larger than life and the DMS use I I have received a few of those DMS yeah
04:19:35Brian AtlasI've received a few yeah yeah have you got on with any of them here and there Arby's favorite fast food yes or no
04:19:44Brian AtlasI I cannot I disavow that statement we should not be shaming women for the natural way in which they the is I'm just saying it you
04:19:57Christyshouldn't shame women if they got it it's more about cleanliness and hygiene would you talk you can have a clean and have an animal I know that's fine but I'm saying like what are you saying I'm saying
04:20:09Christywhatever matters more about the what do you say is how you keep it hygienic and cleansing oh well that's
04:20:16Brian Atlassomething that's Dumbo what Dumbo wait what tie your ears in a knot the bigger the better the larger the labia the
04:20:26Brian Atlasbetter you should just go on any women listen ladies don't let these men and women shame you if you have a large labia there are plenty of men who will
04:20:36Christybe appreciative that is a whole category on PornHub like meaty I I think maybe vagina is this category it can be found probably yeah it can be found
04:20:59Brian Atlasokay uh all right so look body count is a proxy for promiscuity so if you have a high body count you were promiscuous you are promiscuous
04:21:11Brian Atlasmost people don't want to be involved in I don't think anyone even has it still has a high body Kristen Saint Regis Christy Christopher I need you to stop
04:21:21Christyinterrupting me it's very rude very rude Kristen it's not my name okay Stevo that's actually better than coming Christian I hate when Kristen steal the
04:21:34Brian Atlasname Christy as their nickname it's not my fault you're upstairs I'm gonna start calling you not my father parenting them because you know how about that I've heard this used uh the adhesive
04:21:46Brian Atlastape analogy in regards to pair bonding so it's like tape when you place tape on something for the first time the adhesion is strong it sticks but the more times you start putting the tape on
04:21:58Alex Clarkto a new Surface well that's correct it's scientifically proven that is what happens the more sexual partners you have it is what happened but what I think the red pill Community fails to
04:22:08Alex Clarkoffer guys is hope that there is redemption a guy a guy or a girl with a high body count a guy or a girl with a higher body count they there is redemption offered to them
04:22:21Alex Clarkthrough Christ that they're not going to get through the red pill Community I just want to say that so this idea like once you use my body count your life is over like that's not true I think that's a really damaging thing to tell people
04:22:31Christywell I mean age depends on that too like if you were lucky enough to meet your soulmate at 23 then you're only gonna
04:22:40Christyyou're never gonna be around sleeping but if you're 30 33 35 and single you're just naturally which has two hours
04:22:52ChristyI can't keep talking we can't keep talking about the ratio I'm not I'm actually just going off what she's saying okay my bad I'm not talking I'm not talking about I'm just saying I'd like to take this chance to apologize
04:23:04Christyto absolutely nobody [Applause] I mean it's just like if we're in our 30s and single and trying to meet like a husband
04:23:16Christyyour body count is gonna probably have to be a little bit higher than if you met your person in your 20s just because
04:23:27Alex Clarkbut then it would go into the ratio of thing which I'm not talking I don't think that's nice I'm not sure I don't think your age necessarily guarantees that you're gonna have a high body count yeah but okay so you're saying like through Christ you can get Redemption
04:23:38Christyeven if you were you slept with 100 people Jesus loves there's there's Born Again virgins it's true no I don't believe it I am not allowed I hate the whole point
04:23:50Brian Atlasagainst the whole community so you would let me ask you a question you're Christian you're Christian right yes so let's say a woman she previously
04:24:03Brian Atlaswas a prostitute and she slept she slept with 300 people but she found Christ yes she goes to the church she's no longer she's no longer a
04:24:12Brian Atlasprostitute she's now saving herself till marriage would you advocate a male friend of yours do you have a brother uh yes would you advocate for your brother despite she's redeemed herself
04:24:25Alex Clarkright she's found Christ would you Advocate your brother marrying her uh it depends on how long ago she was born again if she got saved last
04:24:34Alex Clarkweek no I've been born again let's say she's been a year no it's probably still too new in her walk if she's somebody who has totally
04:24:45Alex Clarkchanged her life and she has been Faithfully living that new life for five plus years yes but I don't think you can call yourself a version again
04:24:57Brian Atlasright but like that past behavior in my view if you're if you're an intelligent man that should preclude you from a relationship with a man
04:25:14Brian Atlasit would be very advisable to recommend to men despite her finding God and being celibate and waiting till marriage if
04:25:25Brian Atlasshe was previously a prostitute and slept with 300 men that that does not a good wife make I mean well I feel like the number act
04:25:37Monicalike would play a part in it you're saying 300 what if she had like 20 and she was like you know what I'm gonna hang up the towel I'm a I mean a lot of women got 20. like I think a lot of women but I'm saying
04:25:50MonicaI'm saying like it's a number thing like that's what I'm asking is it a number or is it just the fact that she did it or like the fact that she was a prostituter was is it the number well I think
04:26:00Brian Atlasthere's again like degrees to it like if she was a Prost if she's a prostitute no
04:26:08Alex Clarkif she only had 10 clients if she'd prostituted herself done you're done I I just I think that's an incredible testimony for somebody to have and I
04:26:19Alex Clarkpersonally in my life know men who have body counts in the hundreds before they before they became Christians from the day they became a Christian they walked that walk and they lived
04:26:31Alex Clarkthat life the fruit of their life shows that they truly are saved and made a change then yes I think that person can still be marriage material well can't you also say for like men who's had sex
04:26:42Monicafor like 300 plus people like it's also a emotional bond there too because out of the 300 people you've slept with you probably fell for like 50 of them you
04:26:54Monicaprobably have like close relationships for like 50 of them
04:27:01Brian Atlasyeah yeah there's a couple things so in terms of society functioning the best in an Ideal World the you would just everyone would just be a virgin and they would marry the they
04:27:13Brian Atlaswould get married they would wait till marriage and then they would raise yes I do in an ideal world that's yes that's perfect it sucks that Society is built up this
04:27:24Alex Clarkway I think it's a super sad depressing world to live in where you think no past Behavior can ever be redeemed that everybody's so doomed to whatever their mistakes are that you can never forget
04:27:36Christythe girl was really messed up in the head from your mistakes so you have there's growth there's something called growth and like you can't learn no you can grow but like grow without making compliments I mean I don't think that a
04:27:48Alex Clarkvirgin I don't think a guy who gets married let's say a guy that gets married at 29 years old and he's never had sex once is probably gonna be the best matchup to marry a prostitute or a former prostitute but if you're talking
04:27:59Alex Clarkabout a guy who also has his own path he's changed she has you know what I mean then yes there's not going to be that huge like imbalance of and everyone has their own past and they're gonna can right like what if she
04:28:10Monicahad like people not saying she had a legitimate excuse but what if she was like going through stuff and that's not that doesn't and now in the no she found the proper hope she got the hope she needed
04:28:22Brian Atlasshe's gone through her little therapy it's over become a nun you can become a nun how about that look okay then it was like online I'm just
04:28:33Brian Atlastalking for me yeah what I would recommend to other men I don't care if she's now a Godly woman if you previously were a prostitute drug addicted
04:28:43Christy300 body count I would recommend there are better women there are better women out there seven eight years they like they don't deserve to get I wouldn't for
04:28:55Brian Atlasme I would not for me I would not date a woman who was previously a drug addict if she was sober for you I don't care how long she's been sober I'm just that's a metric with which I'm not gonna
04:29:06Christydate a woman how's that crazy that's smart I'm not saying I'm trying how's that that's just discernment he probably went through some shitty stuff
04:29:17Christyin their childhood that that's another reason that is another reason to not want to date a woman though I mean I'm not saying I'm trying to date someone
04:29:29Qlike that but I'm just saying if people change their lives around you like they deserve us never looked back either I would say if that's all you can get then that's
04:29:40Qdifferent but if you if you have options that's the worst option to select right regardless if you're of how holy it may be or you know how much of a good person you may be trying to be it doesn't
04:29:53Brian Atlasmatter you don't want a woman that has that history you don't want a woman that has that on her legend in the same way that that women will make the optimum decision when it comes to who they're gonna sleep with who they're going to
04:30:05Brian Atlaspartner with who they're gonna marry who they're have they're going to have kids with men are also free to make the optimum decision everyone and find every everyone is trying to make the optimum decision and as a guy if you have other
04:30:18Brian Atlasoptions a woman who was previously a pro I can't believe I have to explain this a woman who was previously a prostitute and drug addicted does not make for a good
04:30:29Juanpotential partner not like and I think that's totally fine I mean everyone has happened again
04:30:39Brian Atlaslike we're just saying like if if she was to like clean her sofa I don't care no I here's another thing I don't care if she's been sober for hold on let me finish I don't care if she's been sober
04:30:51Brian Atlasfor five years you have damn if you you were previously a drug addict there are probably some irreversible there's some irreversible damage you've done to your body yes of course perhaps even when it comes
04:31:02Christyto fertility so that could be I mean there's plenty of reasons
04:31:08Brian AtlasYouTube's Gonna Cancel me let's not go there no we can't because we're not going to go there but but look but that that might be that and a lot of women who maybe a lot of conservative women
04:31:20Brian Atlasthat actually might be a well men or women zip it zip it good okay that might be a metric by which somebody
04:31:34Christydoesn't want to date somebody if they got the jab hey everyone can have their preferences a thousand percent I would that flag that any
04:31:46Juanbut if everyone can have their you can't really say well like these preferences are okay but these preferences are not okay right like it's either what are the other for themselves
04:31:56Christyyou literally just said when I said when I just said yeah zip it zip it okay
04:32:06Brian AtlasChris Kirsten you like to interrupt you like to interrupt okay I'm not going to tolerate it anymore okay oh this says
04:32:17Brian Atlaswhich zip it okay you literally just said Brian it's crazy that you wouldn't date a woman who's been seven years sober that's not crazy that's smart I'm not saying for you but I'm saying for
04:32:30Brian Atlassomeone else like everyone deserves to find their person nobody nobody deserves to find a person everyone's going to eventually well not everyone I'm not here no no here I think maybe here's
04:32:41Brian Atlaswhere you're getting caught up I'm not saying that it's going to be impossible for a woman who used to be a prostitute or who used to be drug addicted to find
04:32:51Brian Atlassomebody it I agree with you on that of course but what I'm saying what I'm arguing is that for myself and honestly as a recommendation for other men
04:33:03Brian Atlasdon't date a previous drug addict there are better options out there in the same way that women are looking for the best options you too as a man can go for the best option you can optimize and try to
04:33:15Brian Atlasget the best option I just think it happens to be the case that a lot of women are unaccustomed to men articulating preferences standards and boundaries because most men are never most men are
04:33:26Qnever in a position to so when women hear it they're like this is unusual was he talking about every woman deserves love every woman should have a man every woman gets a second chance that's essentially how
04:33:39Alex Clarky'all treat it and it's inherent it's like y'all it's like y'all intrinsically believe that I don't think that at all but there's a lot of women who do have chilled or well I don't think everybody is guaranteed to have children or should
04:33:51Alex Clarkhave that yeah it should I can't talk I don't think everybody is guarantee of children I don't think everybody's guaranteed to get married I think that it's totally depends on God's will for your life
04:34:03Brian Atlasword last video we're going to react to a video from Q over here if you can pull it up Nick actually before you do that twitch let's let's pull up twitch then
04:34:13Brian Atlaswe'll pull up cues video I wonder what video this
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04:34:51Brian Atlasit's the first one or sorry sorry it's the second one that's pinned yeah oh that one yeah yeah yeah [Music]
04:35:05Qnow I want y'all to understand it in this new age of modern women this is one of the ways in which they will consciously sabotage their romantic opportunities the last thing a man wants from a woman is for that woman to play mind games and downplay her attraction
04:35:18Qto him or her desire to see him and this is one of the ways in which pop culture media has led women astray and actually reduce their ability to form healthy romantic connections by getting them to behave in ways that are
04:35:29Qcounterproductive to developing those healthy romantic interactions when a man is interested in a woman and he's going out on a limb he's initiating he offers something for them to do that is a woman's opportunity to reciprocate that
04:35:42Qromantic interest without any Pride ego nonchalanteness apathy manipulation or reverse psychological tactics a man with options is not going to conform and entertain such and women's friends will even encourage this low IQ
04:35:54QBehavior amongst themselves don't appear too desperate don't move too fast you don't want him to think you're a I've dealt with plenty of women who when I asked supporting modified the schedules to see
04:36:06Qme at their earliest convenience when they're genuinely interested in a guy they want that man to know that they're interested as well women will engage in and utilize the most counterproductive dating methods and then get upset and vilify the man when
04:36:18Qthose strategies fail to produce the desired affect their outcome
04:36:24Brian AtlasI agree and I've seen like that's not the only girl that I've seen like kind of do this like use that noise it's like it's one of those Tick-Tock things right uh and
04:36:35Brian Atlasshe's like oh my what is it she's like stoked that the guy is texting her but then she's like responding don't play
04:36:44Juanhard to get oh uh I'm busy or like even though she you know whatever so um human nature like we're attracted to what's rare and and kind of um full circle going back to the
04:36:56Juanconversation topic where you started where uh you said something along the lines where if the guy was too available that was unattractive to the to the woman and because maybe you had multiple other partners that it actually made
04:37:09Juanwomen more attracted to you I don't think that's weird like I think it's human nature to want the thing that you can't have or want the thing that is rare So essentially what the the woman in that video was doing was sort of
04:37:21Juantrying to recreate that so you know I think it's it's not great for either gender to do I think everyone should you know if there is attraction and you're also reciprocally attracted to that
04:37:32Monicaperson to be like full in and present and not try to play I want to piggyback on what you're saying I feel like a lot of it is how we're females how we're raised growing up especially by older
04:37:43Monicafemales in our family like for me it was like my grand my grandma she would be like oh you gotta act like a lady you gotta do this you can't let him like if you want a good man you can't perceive yourself as this this and
04:37:56Monicathat even though we're like super into you we're super attractive we want to spend like every single day with you we don't want you to think that we're like hoes or we're just like out there like we're doing this with everybody else so
04:38:07Monicait's not like a we're playing games in a sense it's like okay let me chill let me see how I can get him without him thinking too much of me
04:38:19Madisonanybody else yeah that could be the case like with a lot of women I do hear that a lot but like in the video that she's just representing she's just I don't know she was yeah
04:38:30Alex Clarkexactly like you can tell she was wrong like all she wants is like the Chase and like that's all she's seeking is so the attention and everything yeah I don't think men I don't think men or women should be playing games like that
04:38:42Monicaum I think it's super detrimental but I also think like when women are forward I don't know it's like my scares a lot of men away when we're for it like because you can be like oh you're hot and I'm gonna be like oh you're hot too
04:38:54Alex Clarklet's let's go let's go to my place and you're like oh no you're too you're too much like I don't like you guys want us no games but then when we are four we're like okay yes I'm interested like you know what I mean it's like you're maybe
04:39:05Christydoing this natural Hunters but I like agree with your video except for I just because there was like the sound over it it's
04:39:14Christylike if two people like each other then yes they both like each other they should both be dropping things and prioritizing someone it shouldn't just be the girl that has to prioritize the man they should both equally be
04:39:26Qprioritizing each other right and I understand what all of you are saying the caveat is the guy having options and the way the woman responds so I'm saying if the woman plays games and that guy has options then he's not going to
04:39:39Qnecessarily stick around for her to wait to see if she's going to be interested or reciprocate but what I'm saying is he may is he may move on but if she really likes him then she just sabotaged that opportunity because she wanted to
04:39:52Qdownplay it because she wanted to play cat and mouse that's what I'm saying to not play games yeah yeah oh no I kind of like it if a woman Sims
04:40:04Alex Clarkyou know I do too I love it it's actually it it takes a lot of pressure off me I love it but not enough for you to to get rid of your roster and not have other women that you're seeing on
04:40:15Qthe side because you still forgetting that oh you you got it's impossible no no because you're no you're missing the point to where I said we were monogamous
04:40:25Alex Clarkyes and and then and then she was saying so now she got her stuff together okay okay you stop playing games okay you get married who said we wasn't gonna do that though
04:40:36Qyou no we'll still do it it'll just be on my yeah it'll still be it'll still be on my time though but it didn't go unnoticed it didn't go unnoticed I'm saying you guys have both established throughout this entire podcast that
04:40:49Alex Clarkthere you guys are you know in this mortality good women out there and you are saying that you have a great woman don't let her go once you leave this podcast I didn't do you think you being less
04:41:01Juanavailable than she would like makes you more attractive to her uh absolutely subconsciously it does is that a is that a game would you say of being unavailable kind of no because I'm not trying to play I'm not I'm not trying to
04:41:13Qplay on a very much I'm operating genuinely like this is this is me I have no ulterior motives I'm not trying to make her feel a certain type of way I'm
04:41:23Qjust literally focused on me and where I want to be and with that comes me if other women are interested then yeah I'll talk to other women I'll do other things but it never gets too serious it
04:41:34Qnever goes too far and at the end of the day when I want to call somebody when I want to talk to somebody when I want to take somebody on a vacation vacation whatever I call her for what if she's just genuinely busy and has her own life too
04:41:47Juanthat's fine I never said anything against that yeah I know I'm like I agree with you except for like she shouldn't be the only one I don't I don't stop her from doing anything she wants to do well everything she does she does incentive for you to settle down with her if she actually finds you more
04:42:00Juanattractive when you're less available because I'm still doing things like this so the only thing that would change is me just cutting off other women but what would be what would be their incentive for you as in like why would you ever
04:42:12Juanwant to give up this lifestyle if the more unavailable you are for her the more she finds you attractive not this not this lifestyle just other women the lifestyle stays the same The Other Woman
04:42:23Juanis what I mean yeah yeah getting rid of other women that's easy but why would you ever do that I mean it sounds like when you are fully available for her she wanted you less right because because because because she took
04:42:35Madisonit as a challenge and I guess it's a motivation to improve herself how old is she you asked I told her she's 27. Have You Seen Her Like Improvement ever since she I guess sabotaged your guys's
04:42:47Qrelationship like Have You Seen Her actually trying to progress and improve herself yep and that's and that's what I respect so yeah at this point in my life like I said I told you guys in the beginning it's not all about me dating
04:42:59Qother women it's about me trying to get somewhere where I want to be in my life like financially yeah I respect it and and I'm trying to accomplish certain things so I'm here waiting for that
04:43:09Qperfect moment it's never going to come yeah yeah I don't I I know that I'm well aware of that that's why also it's a matter of my discernment so what I'm
04:43:20Qsaying is um I don't want to rush it but at the same time I'm still open to when it comes and I'm not saying that's going going to take years down the road that could be next year that could be in a couple months but what I'm saying is I'm
04:43:33Qjust going to operate on my time regardless it's just gonna it's just if she's still there she's free to do what she wants she's free to go wherever she wants she's free to be with whoever she wants so when I'm ready if she's still available and she's willing then we'll
04:43:45Qmake it work but not sleeping with other people for you what she wants to do because that grosses you out yeah no no I'm saying if she slept with if she no if she slept with other people that doesn't actually gross me out because we
04:43:56Qmet when she was in a relationship so I know she slept with somebody else while we talked yeah but you said you didn't want her to be because I know I'd lose her I know I'd lose her I'm saying what I'm saying is if she's still there the
04:44:09Qnumber one indicator that would be that she's no longer available is if she sleeps with somebody else I'm saying I know she'd like somebody else and at that point I've lost her yeah that's true so that's that's that's what I use that as a proxy for if I still have her
04:44:21Qdoes she still love me is she still committed to be once she sleeps with another man for that moment she may not like it you know he it meant it might not work out but for that moment if she told me like listen I'm interested in somebody else
04:44:34QI'm seeing somebody else and they sleep together I'm operating under the presumption that she's moved on okay so our next thing here
04:44:47Brian Atlasuh Nick can you pull up the chat so I can see it yo guys one in the chat should I just start paying for First Dates should I you chat do you think I should start one in the chat yes Brian start be
04:44:59Brian Atlasa gentleman start paying for first AIDS two in the chat nah Brian you're you're right you're a righteous stop don't continue uh we got the couple twos don't pay for the first date Brian
04:45:11Brian Atlasunless she has a large labia one in the chat one in the chat it's like 50 50. yeah it seems like 50 50. okay I guess I'm gonna
04:45:20Brian Atlasreconcile not paper no um 50 50. keep me stuck in my ways every podcast stuck in my ways there's a three yeah I don't know what three is uh I guess
04:45:33Brian Atlasthat's have her pay for the first date that'd be nice um last thing here uh does anybody here like maybe you've seen the show before does anybody hear aside from anything
04:45:44Brian Atlaswe've already talked about tonight disagree with anything I've said in a previous show any disagreements the only show I ever
04:45:57Christy[Music] okay I mean like I just I just agreed a lot already on that show but nothing okay uh any final thoughts from anybody
04:46:07Brian Atlasbefore Maddie you want to do it let's do a 15-minute after show uh final thoughts from anybody speak now forever hold your peace I just want to say that for the guys
04:46:20Alex Clarkthat think like there's no good women anymore there are plenty there are tons of girls that have not gotten the juice if you know what I mean erroneous that are Christians that are conservative that
04:46:33Alex Clarkwant to leave a legacy through their family there are women like that who are waiting for the right guy exactly
04:46:49Brian Atlasanybody else final thought
04:46:55Christyokay I just think you should start paying for you I think not no sign we're never gonna like I don't think we're ever gonna say eye to eye so stochastic Decay
04:47:07TTS Readerdonated 99 stochastic Decay has a data science question for uspi how would you adjust the ratio calculation for women who hang out at clubs versus women who hang out
04:47:19TTS Readerat libraries I'm open to non-traditional methodologies
04:47:33Monicayou can't you can't knock out the girls who hang out the light at the library because they they get down to but it's still the same out because they've got less opportunities than the girls at the club so it's all about the opportunities you took
04:47:48Brian Atlasword okay guys last call we're gonna do a uh we're gonna do a brief 10-15 minute after show with Madison here as your host last call hit the like button please on your way out thank you for
04:48:01Brian Atlastuning in tonight you could have been anywhere in the world but you were here with me I appreciate that thank you to everyone who super chats donates supports the show thank you to the panel for coming appreciate it guys thank you to all our chat mods thank you
04:48:14Brian Atlasto Britt who's helping with timestamps any women who want to be on the show DML whatever uh we will be live again Tuesday at 7 P
04:48:23Brian Atlasor excuse me Tuesday at 5 p.m Pacific we're we're changing the time uh it's gonna be a different show the Tuesday show I'm I'll just reveal it we're gonna have I
04:48:35Brian Atlasdon't know if any of you saw that Netflix documentary about the American Gladiators we're going to have an American Gladiator panel it's going to be a little different it's going to be a smaller panel uh but I wanted to you
04:48:47Brian Atlasknow do something a little different something new uh if you guys aren't interested in that it's probably going to be a little more tame but uh if you aren't interested in that we will
04:48:58Brian Atlasbe back with the nor our normal dating talk on Sunday but Tuesday 5 p.m we have the American Gladiator special edition whatever dating Talk podcast so uh be
04:49:10Brian Atlassure to tune in for that anyways guys we'll see you next time good night guys we are doing an after show so if you want to stick around for 10-15 minutes uh yeah go for it
04:49:21Brian Atlasoh and uh you guys if you guys want you don't have to stick around for the after show I know it's we're getting late here so if you want to dip I don't even know what you do in the after show I know it's is this where storage
04:49:36Brian Atlasuh like the other after that no no no no no no what happened what what happens like like do we have to assignment
04:49:47Brian Atlasconversation uh Nick if you can hit the lights all right guys after show begins now honestly basically oh wait last thing
04:49:57Brian Atlaslast thing uh I'm I've set the the TTS for the after show is 69 and we'll do we'll read uh like 1999 and up to like
04:50:08Brian Atlas20 1999 and uh Madison you want to sit here sure
04:50:29Madison[Music] welcome to the after show everyone so basically we haven't done an after show in a very very long time uh when was the last time we did an after show Nick like
04:50:40Madisonliterally yeah a month and a half ago but basically after um basically on the after show it's just like a little more intimate conversation you know we try to gear less away from
04:50:52Madisonwhat we actually talk about on the actual panel and all this like controversial just try to get to a little bit know a little bit more about you guys are we still streaming right
04:51:02Madisonnow yes we are still streaming right now on the same screen and yeah we're we're a little more intimate with the chat and the viewers as well they can ask us more
04:51:12Madisonquestions did you do it Nicholas did you do it is it lowered okay
04:51:26Madisonone moment let me just try to there's finally more room though should I did we did we ever go did we ever read