She Is "Traditional" BUT Has An ØF?! | Dating Talk #94
Date: 2023-08-28
Duration: 5h 20m
Guests
Brian AtlasIdentified Speakers
SPEAKER_00TTS Reader(audience)
SPEAKER_01TTS/Video Reader(audience)
SPEAKER_03Christy(guest)
SPEAKER_04Isaac Butterfield(guest)
SPEAKER_05Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_07Juan(guest)
SPEAKER_08Q(guest)
SPEAKER_09Monica(guest)
SPEAKER_10Madison(guest)
SPEAKER_11Alex Clark(guest)
SPEAKER_12Kelly(guest)
SPEAKER_13Christy(guest)
SPEAKER_14Isaac Butterfield(guest)
Key Moments
00:04:17
QuoteAlex Clark introduces herself as host of the Spillover Podcast and real Alex Clark on YouTube.
“I'm Alex I'm the host of the spillover podcast and also real Alex Clark on YouTube”
00:04:26
QuoteIsaac Butterfield introduces himself as Australian comedian, YouTuber, author and father. Has reacted to Whatever videos.
“my name is Isaac Butterfield I'm a comedian from Australia also a YouTuber an author and a father... you've reacted to a couple of our videos”
00:04:58
QuoteQ introduces himself as author of Amazon #1 new release "The QPO: Overdose of Reality" and certified Behavioral Sciences relationship coach.
“I'm the author of Amazon's number one newcoming book The QPO and overdose of reality the remedy for a cold world”
00:05:58
QuoteChristy reveals she went from single to DM-engaged between episodes. Was in talking stages with two men on Tuesday show, now engaged via DMs to a Republican ex she reconnected with through her Eskimo sister.
“I think I'm getting married... he proposed in the DMs... he's a Republican and he comes from a traditional family”
00:09:31
QuoteChristy says she would ghost her newly engaged fiance for Donald Trump if he proposed.
“Trump is Daddy... yeah if he proposed I would totally... I would ghost [my fiance] for that”
02:40:48
QuoteAlex Clark reveals she has dated 5 men in her 20s who were not ready for marriage; every one ended up proposing to the next woman after her, just slightly off in timing.
“the girl after me that they dated that's who they end up getting engaged to it's like they're just our timing is just slightly off where I'm ready and they're not”
03:57:06
OtherKelly leaves the show around the 3:56 mark to go home (has school). Brian says "another one bites the dust."
“another one bites the dust”
04:04:00
QuoteQ gives detailed biological argument for why body count matters: paternity uncertainty, STI risk, behavioral indicators, and the DRD4 gene associated with promiscuity affecting pair bonding.
“The first reason it matters is biologically evolutionarily paternity uncertainty... DRD4 gene... women who are promiscuous you naturally fall in a cycle”
04:06:08
QuoteAlex Clark challenges Q's argument by pointing out the double standard: Q won't have sex before marriage but contributes to women's body counts he then criticizes.
“everything you're saying is correct but you yourself are not willing to not have sex before marriage you're contributing to all these women”
04:31:24
QuoteChristy reveals her self-described body count of approximately 22, contextualizing it as "very low" given her opportunities as an OnlyFans model.
“my body count was like around 22... that is a very very low body count... compared to how many opportunities I have on a daily basis”
04:37:24
QuoteAlex Clark argues the red pill community fails people by not offering hope/redemption for those with high body counts, unlike Christian worldview.
“the red pill Community fails to offer guys is hope that there is redemption... through Christ that they're not going to get through the red pill Community”
05:00:00
OtherIsaac Butterfield left before the main show ended. Referenced at ~5:01 by Christy: "like what Isaac I know he's not here anymore."
“Isaac I know he's not here anymore but what he said about like it being your best friend”
Topics Discussed
00:00:00
Introductions & Show Announcements
Brian opens show from Santa Barbara CA, plugs StreamLabs/Twitch/merch/BLM nonprofit/clip channels. Guests introduce themselves: Christy (33yo OnlyFans model, newly DM-engaged), Monica (22yo hair/airport), Juan (36yo neurologist), Kelly (21yo Nordstrom stylist/student), Madison (18yo Whatever staff/SBCC), Alex Clark (30yo Spillover Podcast/YouTube), Isaac Butterfield (30yo Australian comedian/author), Q (30yo relationship coach/author).
00:05:58
Christy's DM Engagement Reveal
Christy was single on the previous Tuesday show but returns "engaged in the DMs" to a Republican ex. Was in talking stages with two men; reconnected with an ex through her Eskimo sister. Engagement proposed via DMs. He's a Republican from a traditional family, planning to move to Florida. Christy says she would still ghost him for Donald Trump. Chat reacts. Discussion of her engagement and timeline.
00:15:00
Relationship Status Round
Full table round on relationship statuses. Monica: 3-year relationship ("happily married"). Juan: 2-year relationship. Kelly: 1.5-year relationship. Madison: 1.5-year relationship. Alex Clark: single, 5 serious relationships in 20s all ended because men not ready for marriage. Isaac: married 1 year, together ~10 years, wife is best friend. Q: single, dates multiple women openly, has one primary woman.
00:20:00
Q's Non-Monogamous Dating Arrangement
Extended discussion of Q's dating lifestyle: transparent with all women about seeing multiple people, has one "main" woman (27yo) who is monogamous to him. His main woman stays because she sees potential. Discussion on consent, loyalty, whether his arrangement is ethical. Juan asks about time as finite resource. Alex pushes back on whether women can truly consent under emotional pressure. Q argues sexual vs resource loyalty are different. Brian asks if women prefer sharing a high-value man over a committed relationship with a less-desirable man.
01:00:00
Women Ending Relationships & Divorce Statistics
Discussion of who ends relationships more often. Brian estimates ~70/30 women end relationships. Alex: every serious relationship ended because man wasn't ready for marriage. Monica: ends things when she can't see a future. Q: before age 24 women ended things, after that he ended them. Isaac: ~50/50. Discussion of why women initiate ~80% of divorces — Alex attributes it to feminist culture telling women to look outside the home for fulfillment. Brian notes contradiction: women want commitment most, yet end relationships more often.
02:41:40
Red Flag Jobs / Career Turn-Ons and Turn-Offs
Discussion of red flag careers in partners. Christy: garbage man not a red flag, wants a real estate developer. Alex: any attention-seeking career (politician, actor, singer) is red flag due to competition. Isaac: Uber Eats delivery driver as red flag. Kelly: military (too much time abroad). Madison: sex worker. Brian discusses nurses and infidelity statistics. Alex wants partner who can provide for family on his income alone, prefers stable/guaranteed income over commission jobs.
04:00:00
Body Count Debate + Video Reaction
Extended body count discussion prompted by a video from a woman arguing body count "isn't your business." Christy argues for ratio theory (opportunities taken vs offered). Q provides biological/evolutionary reasons body count matters: paternity uncertainty, STI risk, psychological indicators, pair bonding (DRD4 gene). Alex cites scripture about redemption outside red-pill framework. Discussion of why women more commonly initiate casual sex without orgasming. Brian argues body count is proxy for promiscuity and tape adhesion analogy for pair bonding. Panel reacts to the video: Monica disagrees with leaving if asked, Juan neutral, Q strongly disagrees with video's argument.
04:55:00
Partner Preferences / Type Discussions
After-show segment on types. Q: fit, substance/intellectual curiosity. Alex: brunette bearded Eastern European/Middle Eastern type, full head of hair. Monica: beard, fit, adventurous. Juan: articulate, adventurous, traveler, fit, beard, 5'9"+. Christy: sense of humor, conservative/Republican, long hair on a man. Madison: comfort, best friend quality, someone she's excited to come home to. Brian: short women (little person preferred), dark hair, blue eyes slight preference, no plastic surgery/makeup/fake nails, plays violin or cello. Discussion of superficiality differences between men/women.
Transcript
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02:55:42
Isaac Butterfieldum but I've had those since I was about 19 or so um and you know they are they attacks like it's not constant right no no no it's just one I'm on medication for it I take an anti-seizure medication and the
02:55:56
Isaac Butterfieldneurologist I saw you basically said this could work maybe a dozen not too sure yeah yes yes Tegretol some people call it um and it was very interesting because I used to play a sport called rugby league and that's when they started happening
02:56:08
Isaac Butterfieldit's a big Collision sport so that would happen I would run into someone a big Collision would happen I'd lose control of my eyes I'd go blind it was a whole thing really really crazy and that's what they said it's a it's a movement
02:56:19
Isaac Butterfielddisorder I started a ketogenic diet because of it and it actually helped it um which was very interesting here's a rugby ball almost rugby league which about here this is a very different
02:56:29
Isaac Butterfieldsport different ball too way rugby league right okay rugby league and Rugby Union no this is this is for Rugby Union yeah this is a rugby you don't use this kind of ball in rugby league very very similar but very different as well it's
02:56:42
Isaac Butterfieldlike comparing Cricket with baseball okay got it so they're sort of ball games but they're different all right so and then you have AFL yeah that's just not that's okay that's a lot it's it's a bit different thank you but it's unless
02:56:54
Isaac Butterfieldyou want to hold on to it it's good to hold what we call a footy all right you can hold on to it it's nice it's been a long time but yeah very interesting yeah cool thanks for sharing wait you're welcome can you fix me
02:57:05
Brian AtlasI'm all up he's all up looks like you're already on the best medication for it so yeah I'm all right wait so okay so you work in a hospital
02:57:16
Brian Atlasyeah doesn't it go down in the hospital when it comes to dating like nurses doctors Pas they make scrubs all over the place
02:57:27
Juanyeah sometimes you know I would say that in training that was more common so I mean medical training is forever right so you have college and then med school and residency and like sub specialty training so it's sort of just like
02:57:40
Juancollege extended so yeah there was a lot of training a lot of interdating both between like doctors and nurses and between doctors and doctors do you do you date a doctor you said you're in a relationship for two years is it I don't
02:57:51
Brian Atlascurrently know huh I don't currently oh he's not a doctor okay question or wait another question
02:58:00
Brian Atlasdo the female doctors get upset that the male doctors with the nurses you know you know what I mean yeah this is a great
02:58:12
Juanquestion so this does come up because the male doctors will get a lot of attention from the nurses from the female nurses and generally speaking you
02:58:22
Juanknow that is a um a huge asset so a lot of the female nurses are sort of looking for the new batch of residents and the new doctors to sort of chase after and see if they can get in relationships why is that though like that why do they
02:58:34
Kellyjust go yeah how come they're so set on like going for the doctor well you know I think I mean I get like you know I get I get why I guess yeah or like the nurses really just like
02:58:46
Juanwaiting in there for the next for the next doctor to come in not all nurses and you know this is this is no detractment at nurses by any means I think uh doctors have a lot to offer
02:58:57
Juanyou know doctors are high earners they're probably relatively intelligent people maybe they're kind of empathetic so I you know I think there's valid qualities that would make someone kind
02:59:08
Alex Clarkof pursue that who do you guys think cheat more who cheats more medical professionals or NBA players wait what like athletes like professional athletes or Healthcare professionals who do you
02:59:19
Brian Atlasthink cheats probably athletes they get way more attention I heard nurse infidelity amongst nurses is insane and I actually think well you had a question though no I was just trying to get to
02:59:30
Brian Atlasthe meat of the the question you're asking oh I'll just uh I was just curious because you're in the field and not why I was kind of leading into and I was going to ask the panelists what what
02:59:41
Brian Atlasthe panel thinks are some red flag jobs in a potential partner and because I was going to say nurses why would you say no
02:59:52
Brian Atlasbecause they get down son they get I'm just saying like here's the thing right here's the thing nurses it's a high it can be a high stress job
03:00:04
Brian Atlasthere's a lot of attractive men around stress Janitor's Closet I'm sure you got stories people be in the hospital I don't got any
03:00:16
Brian Atlasof those stories you don't got any stories what about those toys it's not exactly like Scrubs I mean scrubs is a little bit exaggerated come on I'm just okay I just I think nurses it's kind of
03:00:27
Juana red flag they're good at caretaking though you know they're they're Honestly though really yeah yeah I mean nurses than doctors
03:00:39
Brian Atlaswell okay I don't want to like paint with a broad brush here of course but like there's definitely nurses who are very uh you know as you said they're what empathetic or caring nurturing
03:00:51
Brian Atlascaretakers but uh I don't know some of them and not so much not so much okay all right if uh fdg thing for the
03:01:04
Brian Atlas50 gift appreciate bad experience with nurses as it sounds like I've dated a couple nurses yeah uh there's a little something there's a little something off you know interesting a little something tell us
03:01:15
Brian Atlasmore I don't know it's just a stressful job yeah for starters I mean it depends how you know what kind of work they're doing uh
03:01:26
Brian Atlasbut there I think one of the big things is they there's a lot of room for them to meet like Heist a lot of high status men so like if you're an average guy and
03:01:39
Brian Atlasyou're dating a nurse like she's gonna be moving in rooms with like pretty high status guys uh and they actually I think they released a study recently Nick I don't know if you can look search it up
03:01:49
Brian Atlasuh that infidelity amongst among nurses is very high interesting that's news to me I didn't know that was like the highest rates of infidelity is amongst nurses and women
03:02:09
Brian Atlasthat's sufficient well I know that like alcoholism rates amongst 67 is sufficient is it it's the case right I think alcoholism among uh Physicians doctors it's pretty high it's pretty
03:02:22
Brian Atlashigh you know it's a high I mean it's a stressful job like things that are doctors you got clients female clients it's also High male clients that are oh you got male clients too okay cops and firefighters too
03:02:34
Brian Atlaswell any stressful job definitely like rates of alcoholism and infidelity I think are increased lawyers drink quite a bit so they just found a fun time to fill that Gap that's what they're doing
03:02:46
Brian Atlasperformance so red flag jobs uh in guys and girls uh maybe we can go around the table on this Christy well everyone here obviously
03:02:57
Christythinks my job thanks what where'd you get that idea but I mean I
03:03:07
Christywhat is what it would be a red flag job for me yeah um like a garbage man no that's exactly who I want to marry
03:03:24
Alex Clarkwait Alex she would you I I think it's a respect respectful career no I absolutely do I think the blue color meant so that's a green flag for me as
03:03:35
Alex Clarkguys that work those really blue-collar jobs and also clearly you haven't looked on Tick Tock there's so many viral tick tocks garbage guys are so sweet with kids in the neighborhood the little kids always live in the garbage man comes
03:03:47
Christythey're always super caring they love kids anyway that is such a green flag job to me because they're hard-working they're go-getters they pick up after the you leave behind garbage man
03:03:58
Kellywell what's like your your dream man what does he do um a real estate developer
03:04:14
Christywhich is where I'm from so you need them yeah every state but I also have my interior design and architecture degree so like you're saying of how like you and your wife work together on things like a real estate developer like we
03:04:26
Brian Atlascould like make a really wait okay let's bring it back to the conversation though so garbage man is red flag I've never like thought about it but yeah I don't like I don't really see that what about the McDonald's worker like a cashier at
03:04:39
ChristyMcDonald's I'm not saying anything bad about a plumber plumber my future plumber um I don't see that in my future either it's not it's not maybe it's not a red
03:04:50
Christyflag job it's just not who I see it doesn't align with yourself all the money is though Christy the plumbers the electricians the welders
03:04:59
Christythey're makers yeah I just don't see I actually just had a plumber at my house the other day was it a plumber or a plumber is there a lake yeah literally
03:05:11
Christyhad to replace my toilet and me and my sister like I didn't know this was gonna happen and my sister was visiting and we um we're going to the pool because I
03:05:21
Christylive in Miami and then he texted me thank you for the amazing views because he saw us leave with our bathing suits on and I said see a Jew use my balcony
03:05:32
Christybecause like I have amazing views off my balcony but um so I did just get hit on by a plumber he might even watch us maybe I'll send him the link but I he actually he seemed pretty cool but I
03:05:44
Brian Atlasjust not I turned it down I turned it down uh what about you any red flag careers or jobs like any type of performer
03:05:54
Brian Atlasperformer yeah like uh so musician musicians they well because they attract a lot of attention you don't want the guy who attracts a
03:06:05
Brian Atlaslot of attention I mean I wouldn't say I wouldn't want one you're saying I'm just saying it says other women around and okay what about you any red flag jobs I can't think of anything specific that's
03:06:17
Kellyred flag yeah okay any guy in the military [Laughter] oh you're gonna get dragged for that I know but all right y'all just have so much time to go out and you're in
03:06:28
Kellyanother country sometimes for years you're there for years like I don't know what you're doing out there oh okay I hear a lot of my idea that in the military end up cheating on their women
03:06:38
Brian Atlasback home I hear a lot of women who are military guys each other with each other I definitely will go both ways but they probably have an understanding so I
03:06:50
Alex Clarkdon't know about that but Madison any red flag jobs a sex worker okay uh I would say red red flag jobs for me and a guy it would be anything that
03:07:03
Alex Clarkrequires him being like a center of attention so politician running for office actor singer any type of yeah like because my job my job requires some of that and Oh I thought you said
03:07:16
Alex ClarkCanadian I think there will be there will be natural competition I think it would be hard I think with my job I do need a guy that prefers more to be like behind the scenes um not that I want him to be in that way I'm just
03:07:29
Brian Atlassaying like if there was a competition for attention and things like that I think that could be bad competition for attention like bad for you because because you're you do content creation like you're out there you're like how do you define
03:07:43
Alex Clarkyourself would you consider yourself like a political pundit yeah well so I work in the conservative media space and I host a podcast I do a lot of public speaking and things like that so I can just see how if a guy was doing the same
03:07:55
Brian Atlastype of thing it just might be competitive or difficult for them but couldn't that be like power cup it could if uh if I'm trying to think of like a single conservative guy who they're all
03:08:07
Alex Clarkmarried like I was thinking like Ben Shapiro if he was single would you if you single would you potentially would you go for Ben Shapiro it's just hard it would have it would be hard I
03:08:18
Alex Clarkthink that would create more difficult um I think Matt Walsh is super handsome but he is married he's married he is married I'm trying to think of them but yeah I think Michael Knowles the all these guys Michael Knowles is also super cute and
03:08:30
Alex Clarkalso he's married but one thing about Michael Knowles he smokes cigars a lot and I've always said I think that is one of the biggest turn-ons is a guy that
03:08:38
Christysmokes cigars Michael Knowles maybe that's why my you smoke cigars yeah I don't think it's the cigars not a lot do you smoke cigarettes too no
03:08:50
Brian Atlasno no but I do like a cigar every now and then okay do you smoke weed no meth never done it I'm just curious just
03:08:59
Brian Atlaskeep it together uh Isaac any red flag Uber rates if they do Uber what about like just regular Uber Uber
03:09:10
Isaac Butterfieldregular maybe what about doing this doordash urine but classmates GrubHub we don't have GrubHub in Australia but we have menu logs we
03:09:22
Isaac Butterfieldhave menu log no no no or a comedian comedians are notorious for having extreme mental health disorders yeah they're all insane although Tom Segura and Christina perziski do it very very
03:09:34
Isaac Butterfieldwell they're a couple goals so yeah anyone who is an Uber Eats delivery driver get get away from me but why why yeah I used to I used to deliver
03:09:45
Isaac Butterfieldpizzas when I was a kid and I stank when I came home I smelled like cheese and mushrooms I don't want my girl coming to bed smelling like cheese and mushrooms
03:09:56
Alex Clarkfried cheese anybody like that works in a restaurant would that just be like a turn off for you smelly yeah yeah I would say even besides smelly I would say anybody who is trying to make a career out of what is supposed to be a minimum wage job turn off and red flag
03:10:09
Alex Clarkfor for a job because those jobs are meant to be temporary they're not supposed to be careers and so if that is your full potential as a man that's a turn off to me
03:10:24
Alex Clarkthey get commission so what if like their commission is really good does that make a difference I guess it would a little bit but I I would be really weary of commission-based jobs because then it's
03:10:37
Alex Clarklike your income is never guaranteed you know what I mean so like during the pandemic for example if you're working a commission-based job how many people weren't able to be face to face and selling and now just wasn't nervous there's a lot of other people I gotta have clients tell who are like they are
03:10:50
Kellyconsistently like there's this I know this guy he they they're making a lot of money just selling designer shoes like they make they their paychecks can be close to almost 10 000 sometimes but it probably
03:11:02
Alex Clarkalso depends on the market like it depends on who it is yeah but I was just saying like with that matter like is that would that make a difference for you yeah I would be really weary of it I would be really weary of it that he would he could get be someone that could
03:11:15
Alex Clarkguarantee that he could provide for me and a family because ideally I would like to step away and not be working full-time once I have kids like be working in a very
03:11:27
Alex Clarksmall capacity so he'd have to be making a certain amount to take care of a family of course how much do you think what's your like I think it completely
03:11:38
Alex Clarkdepends on where in the country we're living if it's California he's probably gonna make are you a high earner yes okay does he have does your guy have to make
03:11:48
Alex Clarkus at least as much as you or more um no I don't care about that I care whatever the number is that's going to be able to properly afford for having a family and me being able to be a
03:11:58
Alex Clarkstay-at-home mom okay so if he's making 90 000 a year but we live in Alabama for example then I'm fine with that because you can afford that there but if he was making 90 000 a year in La no so once you start having kids then you like
03:12:11
Alex Clarkyou're fine to work now but once you have kids you want him to be the sole income earner is that correct yeah for sure I would probably work in a small capacity speaking now and then you know if I was able to just do my podcast and
03:12:24
Isaac Butterfieldthat only requires like one to two hours a week then that but I wouldn't want to be working full-time like I am now can I ask what about if they like when I was a committee when I was coming up through the ranks in comedy I was making nothing what if they're doing that what if
03:12:37
Isaac Butterfieldthey're working in a job where okay they're not making much money they're delivering whatever just to go against what I said but uh but they're working on something they're working on a craft they're they're trying to be an Entertainer or they're working on an app
03:12:49
Alex Clarkor they're working on whatever is that okay I would have said yes if I was in my early 20s and he was also in his early to mid-20s but now in my 30s I wouldn't be okay with that because I wouldn't want to wait around for him to
03:13:02
Alex Clarkget his stuff together if he's 22 and he's pursuing something like that then yes and I love the idea of a girl building something with a guy from the ground up when he has nothing and I think he's more likely to be loyal to you when you're loyal to him when he has
03:13:13
Alex Clarknothing to offer yeah it's real and I think that's what guys look for I think that's why guys are weary of getting with a girl once they have everything because it's like well why is she actually with me so if
03:13:25
Alex Clarkyou are a girl that's in a position I can build something with a guy from the ground up from the get-go when he is getting started like that then that's the best position to be in sure uh Q any
03:13:34
Brian Atlasred flag jobs in women um I'll just keep it simple yeah sex work that's it that's it that's it that's it all right
03:13:45
Brian AtlasI have a list here of some red flag jobs and women hair stylist you're not a hair stylist but I do hair you do hair but you're not at hair you
03:13:57
Brian Atlasdon't cut hair no I don't see the the ones that it's a bit like is it no no like like what is the background between cutting
03:14:08
Brian Atlashair because she's gonna cut his hair off like no just like like because you're crazy no no no no not you just like as a woman if you if you're a hair stylist you're just crazy
03:14:20
Brian Atlaswhy do you think that it's just it's like an it's a thing because hair stylists women who cut hair have to listen All Day to other women complaining to them not always no when I
03:14:33
Juanwell when I do hair I don't I'm not really like we talk like we're we're gonna talk hair that's the thing that's the difference but you're saying like complain to them all day right you're
03:14:45
Brian Atlassaying like they're listening a Doppler women complain to them all day why does that make it a red flag it's like being a therapist it's uh or a doctor I think a job where people complain to you all
03:14:57
Monicaday has to be taxing to some degree honestly I don't think people are talking like just from my experience from like braiding or whatever y'all never heard
03:15:08
Monicaof this no like you complained to your Barber no right so why would you think somebody is complaining yes mostly happy like especially especially if I don't know you and I just booked you for the day and I'm
03:15:20
Monicatrying to see how you're you do it I'm not telling you my deepest darkest side
03:15:28
Monicait goes both ways because either way I'm providing you that service whether I'm cutting your hair braiding your hair putting a wig on you're gonna talk to me because you're in my chair for so many so so okay cool whatever you do it's a
03:15:40
Monicared flag but what so it's a hairstyle like gentlemen but I'm I'm not I'm not mad at you I'm just kind of I'm just trying to read it like you're not unless you're you got a real
03:15:52
Brian Atlasbond with that person like you've been going to this person for years I'm just saying it's a red flag you can try to you can you can try to I don't think so so it's like nail stuff yeah like a nail
03:16:03
Brian Atlastech now Tech said they are eyelashes I think anybody who's kind of in like the beauty industry it's a little you know it's a little like
03:16:14
Brian Atlasmakeup like a makeup artist red flag big red flag hair like someone who cuts hair you guys have never heard this thing of women who who cut hair it's it's like be careful of hairdressers what I'm
03:16:26
Monicathinking of it is different how you explained it if I'm saying how I was thinking about it because I'm a you said women I'm like oh cause she's cutting men's hair she's getting men attention but she went like completely a different
03:16:38
Brian Atlasway yeah it's not it's no it's not even that it's not you like the whole company women how to cut women's hair that shit's a red flag trust me on this trust
03:16:49
Brian Atlasme I got some more I got some more jobs for you Works in HR that if she works in HR or HR is where Humanity goes to die
03:17:06
Monicathey'll be like we agree with you but because of company policy this is why we have to let you go they're very they're very like
03:17:15
Brian Atlaseven outside like I dated a chick who worked in HR never again she was super feminist just like very like oh very triggered and offended by
03:17:27
Brian Atlaseverything uh so HR is bad flight attendant
03:17:37
Monicaa lot every city they're in they're you know no I actually I can I can agree on that because I work at an airport and the stories between like I do hair and an
03:17:48
Monicaairport no no hair is my side job okay oh what's your main job I work at an airport what what do you do hey I'm like customers like
03:17:59
MonicaI'm the person who's scheduled customers and I'm at the ticket County
03:18:23
Monicabut I'm saying like I work at an airport so the stories that go on between like the pilots and the flight attendants is crazy and the pilots they don't care who you are they're just trying to they're just trying to smash
03:18:41
Monicabut wherever they land and then also it's like they they flirt with us they flirt with the customer service like the people who are supposed to be scanning the people on they're flirting with us I've had so many uh it goes down the
03:18:54
Monicaairport huh it goes down in the airport and they have their own and they have their own little Lounge oh in the airport like while they're waiting on their flight to come in so they could go like they have their own little Lounge um here's what's look here's what's
03:19:07
Brian Atlasgoing through my head when it comes to flight attendants how many cities have you been to because here's the thing no I'm not a flight attendant no no I'm not talking about you I'm just saying like one of the reasons why I think it's a red flag if a woman's a flight attendant
03:19:19
Monicaand as a dude I don't think you should date a flight attendant how many cities have you been to how many cities have you spent the United States not on call but it's like you have a
03:19:31
Monicawhole schedule planned out already and at any minute they can call you in and be like we need you to stand in so you can you're in say your in-flight might be LA but last minute they can't find a flight
03:19:43
Brian Atlasattendant you're going to Mexico or something it's not even so much about them being gone it's about like okay because I've been I'm not on dating apps anymore but I used to and like I would match with flight attendants and they
03:19:54
Brian Atlaswanted to meet and I'm like that you got to be doing this in every single City you're in you're the new dude every single City how many cities are you in in a year
03:20:04
Monica100 cities are seeing her Tinder too but no it's the hour cap so like it's a they have certain amount of hours so they can't like what that they can fly they just can't be in
03:20:16
Monicathe air they just can't be in the air out it's like a labor law like they get capped out at so many hours okay and most of them stay domestically so most most flight attendants they
03:20:27
Brian Atlasmight just be from international travel nurses or not nurses uh flight attendants you know look they're in a new city they're always in a new city I'm just saying
03:20:38
Brian Atlasthey'd be in the new city I'm not I'm not disputing I'm just uh travel nurse it's like a nurse but even worse
03:20:49
Brian Atlastravel travel nurse because they they're on assignment they're in a City making a ton of money for three months they want some dude and so they've been to they've they've been on assignments
03:21:01
Brian Atlasin 12 different cities they don't have a bunch of like a dude in every new city travel nurses watch out gentlemen be careful gentlemen uh
03:21:14
Brian Atlasbasically any career where she travels frequently obviously sex worker a major red flag sorry Christy that's okay I should date you ever in my life so that's cool so it's all good yeah
03:21:24
ChristyI don't think guys that don't pay for the first date I I don't
03:21:37
Alex Clarkwait you don't pay for the first day Brian there's some circumstances where I will pay for the first day but isn't that a good way to weed out the the libs and stuff because I know you don't want to date a feminist live and if she's like oh sure yes I'll pay because I
03:21:49
TTS Readerbelieve women should pay whatever like I think that that is a that is a fair point that Bend to the offender donated 99
03:21:58
Brian Atlastravel nurses are 304 s on tour yeah not only the stressful job but they're traveling to their new city I mean for a
03:22:09
Brian Atlaslong-term partner unless you're gonna lock her down in the two months six weeks three months that she's on assignment unless she's like you know okay I'll stick around here and get a job I don't
03:22:20
Brian Atlasthink six weeks eight weeks three months is a long enough time to be dating a chick and for her to like make the decision okay I really like this guy I'm gonna stick in the city uh she's off to
03:22:31
Brian Atlasthe next city so long term not great and well even short-term high body count so um what were you talking about a liberal a
03:22:41
Alex Clarkliberal woman is going to be okay with you not paying a conservative girl or a Libertarian girl is not going to be okay with that so if you're foregoing not offering to pay then you're only going to attract those girls here's the thing
03:22:53
Brian Atlasthough is that if you do pay liberal women are fine with that too are they liberal yeah like on the first date free dinner is anyone on the panel
03:23:06
Brian Atlasa feminists anybody Madison back there back there what are you a devil's advocate what are you a feminist man definitely is not enough damn it we need some I was gonna
03:23:18
Monicawe had one girl who was gonna be on who would I can play a feminist if that'll juice everything up no we don't want to like stay um
03:23:28
Brian Atlasthat is a good point but I would say like I think even liberal women like we've had liberal women on the show and they're like yeah I'd prefer for the guy paid so
03:23:38
Brian Atlaslike I don't think the paying thing isn't gonna be I mean if you meet somebody on the dating app I think most people like will put their politics and
03:23:47
Alex Clarkso uh do they on dating yeah yeah it's the whole section I do too wow oh really yep I mean it's been a long time and now and
03:23:59
Brian Atlasnow they want to know if you want kids no but look okay we talked about the not paying thing on the first date Christy last show you admitted despite your claims to being a traditional woman you
03:24:11
Christyadmitted you were like you you had multiple talking stages right yeah last show you had multiple talking stages one of the guys because you asked what happened to
03:24:23
Christyum some of them one of them after this podcast offered me a job what
03:24:32
Christy[Music] yes um no he has like a luxury car rental company so he wants me to meet it's kind of like be
03:24:44
Christypaying me die because I feel like a broker to like get him a luxury car clients well but you had multiple talking stage yeah I mean you were talking to multiple guys yeah I was
03:24:56
Christymainly talking to two people like I've been on like dance before I left um with two people in Miami okay
03:25:08
Brian Atlasso that is precisely one of the reasons they paid for everything that's great that is precisely one of the reasons why I as a guy don't want to
03:25:19
Christypay on the first date because women are talking to multiple men but like also like do you know how much
03:25:31
Christyhow much for you on the first date that's probably not sure because a lot of women do it themselves so that's I mean it does cost money to like get your nails done get your hair done get your eyelashes on makeup but it's like but
03:25:43
Kellyyou can't just expect that on a first date and expect a man to be taking you out to like some nice ass restaurant just because you got all pretty which is what you do every day how much money should a man spend on a first date
03:25:54
Kellyaround I feel like a good like if you're going to a sit-down dinner US Dollars yeah like no I think 80. if it's like a dinner if it's like a nice if you're taking me to if you're going to dinner like I said decent dinner and each get
03:26:07
Kellyat least one cocktail 80 to 90 dollars yeah wait so are we arguing that it's not that much no no I'm just saying if you guys like nowadays with it being so if everything's so expensive now and
03:26:19
Kellyit's like if a guy is taking you to a restaurant like that with drinks and everything Drinks two entrees appetizer like that's a that's gonna be that's gonna be up there what do you think Christy how much I go on a lot of oyster
03:26:31
Christydates because I have Oysters [Music] is that a business throttle um for you I don't pay for it okay I don't pay for my dates ever but
03:26:45
Christyum yeah I got on a lot of first dates for oysters so I know the bill is pretty expensive because I know oysters are expensive are you chewing or swallowing
03:26:56
MadisonI actually chew them and then I saw them because I like to really like get them I know soon oyster girls are red flags because it's just the most expensive thing
03:27:06
Christythey're so good and it's such a fun experience to try like every single type on the menu and like compare it because they're from different places they all taste different yeah they all taste very different and it's a fun activity to
03:27:18
Brian Atlaslike talk about it and compare them true I don't know this whole like women do more or spend more money to get ready I might I've already made this argument before but uh
03:27:30
Brian Atlasa lot of women say they don't wear makeup for men they don't do XYZ for men so if you do okay well someone I'm gonna tell you that right now like most women
03:27:42
Monicadepends on the situation like where I'm going like if I'm going on a date yes for the man but if I'm going out or like hanging with the girls it's not for you know it's not for the man
03:27:54
Isaac ButterfieldI think some people just to do it to not look like or yeah I wake up in the morning I just go that's what I'm dealing with is it okay fair enough oh no that's right did we just tabulate all the ways men and women prepare
03:28:05
Christythemselves not just on the day of but throughout their entire life like yeah I mean it's like guys pay for dates girls pay to look good for the guys that want to take them on days yeah the guys do things to make themselves look good on
03:28:18
Brian Atlasthe first day too spend nearly as much time or effort or money into it you're right you know what I actually agree with you I think women shouldn't wear as much makeup as they do I I don't think they should be so fixated on their physical appearance I
03:28:31
Brian Atlasdon't think that they should get plastic surgery and fake tits and lipo and lip fillers and all this sort of I agree with you on that yeah you might get a second date huh might get a second date reduce the makeup and everything else
03:28:43
Brian Atlasthat feel like we can't fit being catfish how many women would be offended though if as the guy you said hey don't wear listen I I don't want you to wear any makeup on her date don't
03:28:54
Madisonwear any makeup you can maybe get you know take a shower or whatever but don't wear any makeup honestly I wouldn't get offended like Frankie says that all the time I honestly take it as a compliment yeah yeah but you're dating him like I'm
03:29:05
MonicaI'm saying like first date oh yeah on my first date I didn't wear makeup okay I went to my boyfriend we went we did like a sushi date this is like when we were first getting together like I
03:29:18
Brian Atlasdidn't wear makeup what if but here's the thing though what if the guy conceivably spent more getting ready for his first date so then like under those circumstances should well it's not saying like the
03:29:30
Brian Atlasgirl we're not gonna look good we're just not beating I'm asking Christy you said well okay the guy should pay because we spend more money getting ready but like let's say in some scenario the guy actually spent more money getting ready I think the guys
03:29:43
Christyshould always pay but I think in general like people don't take into account that a girl is spending a lot of time money and effort just to get ready for this guy for the date
03:29:55
Christyokay so that's one argument but I will but I also will say like um I get hit on the most when I'm like out in my glasses like not wearing makeup like the days I just don't care
03:30:07
Christyand I'm just like oh I'm just gonna go run my errands that's when I like get hit on the most okay I all right well you know what Drake said what oh that's what parents are attached chilling with
03:30:18
Alex Clarkthe best I ever had sweatpants hair tied children with no makeup on that's when you're I wonder if the people I wonder if girls would agree to come on the panel sometime if it was
03:30:28
Christya all makeup free panel if girls would agree to come on the show Maybe maybe I don't know but okay like the thing is
03:30:39
Christyoh we do that but my I have eyelash extensions so like does that count because I can't I'm not gonna here let's let's move away from the the makeup component of like paying a guy should
03:30:50
Brian Atlaspay for the first date because women spend more getting ready uh I mean the original point I made is is you said you were in the talking stage with two dudes and now all of a sudden you're getting
03:31:01
Brian Atlasback with your ex who was out of the picture like this is precisely the way women move which makes me not want to up front fall into the provider frame like I'm not gonna pay on the first date for
03:31:12
Brian Atlasa girl who's dating three other dudes or who's three other dudes like you expect me to pay for a first date and you're okay so the solution to this is to just go out for a drink you don't have to come into dinner on the
03:31:25
Brian Atlasfirst night no I don't even yeah you could go to coffee you could get one cocktail I agree with that but even even in that circumstance you still you excuse me tripping over my words you still
03:31:35
Brian Atlasshouldn't pay even if it's a ten dollar drink again it's just this mentality until I know you're not another dude I'm not paying for you on the first date
03:31:48
Brian Atlasisn't it worth just throwing that ten dollars in for a drink just to work out whether or not you like this person yeah that's what I'm saying so for me this is more of a principle thing if you as a guy if you want a min max your success
03:31:59
Brian Atlaswhen it comes to women you should pay for the first date because it's conceivable that you go on a date with a girl who's otherwise meets your standards and she's bent out of shape because you don't want to pay for the
03:32:11
Brian Atlasfirst date uh so Min if you want the min max as a dude yes you should pay however for me it's just a matter of principle you don't get the traditional treatment I'm not going to fall into my
03:32:23
Brian Atlastraditional gender roles with a woman who may very well be and this is a way a lot of women are moving and the way a lot of men are moving to okay you're sleeping with other men if you're dating other men while you're talking to me I
03:32:35
Brian Atlasdon't want to pay for you we can split and then when we're in a committed relationship then we can have a conversation about traditional gender roles but if you're another dude you're talking to another dude I'm not
03:32:46
Christygonna be a sucker I'm not going to pay for you I'm also not trying to talk to multiple people but you are but like that what happens when you're dating like the
03:32:57
Christyfirst guy that I was talking to it's not no it's not what happened with him I want like I wanted I I wasn't like going on the apps or anything but when things
03:33:08
Christystart to progress not as quickly like we went on a lot of dates and then things started to slow down and then I met someone out when I was wearing my glasses so then I went on another date with him but if the first guy progressed
03:33:20
Brian Atlasthings along faster I would have never accepted like a date with someone else how many dates did you go on with the guy when you started seeing this other guy three four five days um
03:33:32
Brian AtlasI think around like five probably like five I think how much did and did you guys go out to nice dinners well we went to um
03:33:41
Christyhow much did you spend on you uh we went to 11 and we had a table so I mean a couple Grand this is exactly why you shouldn't pay
03:33:52
Brian Atlasfor a girl on the first date you admit you were but and it wasn't my idea it was his right but you admit to talking to multiple men and this is precisely the reason that advise men to not be a
03:34:04
Alex Clarksucker and not pay for women on personal this is why this is why you guys counted on me for saying on the first day I say I'm dating for marriage this is so then like look our intentions are on the table you can even put that as a setting on hinge I'm dating for marriage well
03:34:16
Brian Atlasthat wouldn't preclude you necessarily from date be uh dating like multiple men
03:34:28
Alex Clarkevery day my primary audience is Young conservative women that's great who are 25 to 35 who either are married or looking to get married that have these Traditional Values I'm saying I talk to
03:34:40
Alex Clarkthese women all day every day there are tons of women like this out there and you won't even take the risk to pay for one drink to get to know these women that are everything that you're saying you don't want I will be a traditional
03:34:52
Brian Atlasman when women return to tradition how can we return to tradition there's no traditional meaning to show up for it okay well first off I mean
03:35:03
Alex Clarksorry repeat repeat your statement we are trying I me and so many women I know are trying to be traditional women but there are no traditional men to to
03:35:14
Brian Atlasshow up for it let me ask you a question so and please don't take this I mean far between you on your Instagram you have bikini photos yes if a guy you started dating came along and said I want you to
03:35:26
Alex Clarktake that down would you yes but you have those up on your Instagram okay I mean I think to me a bikini picture isn't like isn't a big it's not I mean it's
03:35:38
Alex ClarkI think modesty a bikini picture at the pool or the beach I don't know modest modesty coincides with tradition I would say okay that's fair then yes I would be willing to hear it but I'm just saying like
03:35:49
Alex Clarklike for me and so many other women with somebody to marry and then there's people like you were like well I'm just taking myself out of the dating game completely then what are we supposed to
03:35:59
Brian Atlasdo well marriage-minded women should not I I don't think they ought to date me again I'm I'm open to long term it's fair that's fair no I'm I'm open to
03:36:08
Alex Clarkagain monogamous long-term partner it's it could happen you never know I also say I very I think I literally have like one bikini picture on Instagram I have
03:36:18
Brian Atlashardly any I don't know I didn't do a deep dive I I saw a couple yeah I think one I saw a couple maybe a slight look it's not it's not the crime of
03:36:28
Brian Atlasthe century but like guys it's like I think these girls be posting Bible verses in their Instagram and they got bikini like really revealing like
03:36:41
Brian Atlasgraffiti photos and it's like look some guys don't mind but it's like it's not really traditional now when it comes to paying for the first date like again we had Christy here she admits I
03:36:53
Brian Atlasmean she you know she's dating multiple men I've been on dates with women where I I I'll ask them I'm like hey because I'm pretty upfront about that I'm like hey are you seeing other guys and a lot
03:37:03
Brian Atlasof women some some aren't always up front but some are and like even average unremarkable women I was on a date this was a couple years
03:37:13
Brian Atlasago met her on hinge she had just downloaded the app uh three days prior well she had just done sorry guys there's some sound outside uh she had
03:37:24
Brian Atlasjust downloaded the app uh three days in I think I went on a date with her on her fourth date after having had the app she had already been on two dates and then she said she had two dates planned for
03:37:35
Brian Atlasthe weekend and I'm like at that point I've just lost all in yeah well that was super dumb on her part no it's not well yeah she's dating as a job oh it's dumb that she revealed it to me or done that
03:37:48
Brian Atlasshe's doing that I mean both but like very stupid to stay on a date like I've got some other guys lined up after you right like yeah but that's that's being honest because as a guy I don't want to deal with a girl that's dating other
03:37:59
Brian Atlasdudes it's very easy to be dating one person at a time and if you're serious as a guy or well it's just it's weird for me to want that standard from a girl but you're not willing to date for marriage yourself
03:38:14
Brian Atlashold on but but you you're confusing commitment with marriage you can be committed to one person and not get married you can be monogamous and not get married you can have kids and not get married yeah you can have a lifelong
03:38:27
Alex Clarkpartner and not get married no that's true I'm just saying on the dating I'm just saying when it comes to being on a first date I mean will you just marry someone already
03:38:36
Juanbuy me a drink I'm not gonna if it's a first day so sorry like in your ideal situation are you saying that they should not even set up another date until they've either gone on enough
03:38:48
Juandates with you to either say this is a yes or no sorry could you repeat that sorry yeah because dating apps they're you know talking to
03:38:58
Juanmultiple people and then some become dates some don't so you're saying that you don't want to be on a first date with a girl you don't want the date you don't want the girl who you're in a
03:39:10
Alex Clarkfirst date with to also be dating other guys so then there's degrees to it like I think there's a difference between going on dates with multiple guys like if you're single and it's your first day obviously you've gone on dates with other people than sleeping with multiple
03:39:20
Brian Atlasguys yeah there's degrees to it right so like do I find it as a like if a girl went on a date the week prior and she's got a I mean I probably would object if
03:39:32
Brian Atlasshe's going on a date with me and she's got a date planned for the day after but um there's degrees to it so if she's sleeping with another guy and she's
03:39:44
Juangoing on a date with me I no that's a no-go for me so would you say for you is there a difference between sleeping with other guys versus dating other guys like going on multiple
03:39:56
Brian AtlasFirst Dates to see who they want to commit to there's degrees to it like if there's obviously I recognize like if she's single and we just met there there's
03:40:08
Juanpotentiality for crossover yeah however so I think what she's kind of saying is that say she has three dates lined up she hasn't slept with anyone whatever you three dates lined up yeah I'm out
03:40:20
Brian Atlasyou're sort of out of the competition you know but this she's giving now hope to the potential for a relationship she's like oh I'm just like she's got three other yeah exactly she's got three other dates signed up dude I don't like
03:40:32
Juannah so then they're saying that you want her to go on a first date go on a second date maybe third date she's unsure stop dating you then start dating someone else what do you mean
03:40:44
Brian Atlasso I think it's I think it's pretty easy to date one person at the time I think that is the best way to them for women to maneuver is it just I suppose is it
03:40:56
Monicajust like the dating thing that throws you off like the dates or is it like in the back of your head you're like oh I know you're about to go smash him well you never know like even you she might not even be honest like a lot
03:41:09
Brian Atlasof people aren't going to be honest about you know if they're seeing other people up front on the first date so the way the way that I know people move especially here in Southern California
03:41:20
Christythey're they're they're one two three other people that's what I have to assume going in so like that's my hesitation for paying for the first date but it just sounds kind of cheap like is it really that big it's
03:41:33
Brian Atlasnot a deal to pay for someone's coffee like but couldn't you say couldn't you direct that question to women I mean if it's if it's more women or women but are women cheap
03:41:49
MonicaI'm gonna cook dinner for him on the first date I would have I actually think that's a good idea because then you're inviting a guy over here
03:42:00
Kellyit doesn't have to be at your place it could be at his no I wouldn't want to go to some guy's house on the first date yeah I mean I mean not not that's the date but like I didn't say that I said I don't want to I don't want to go to it
03:42:11
Christyguys if she's down do it in like your maybe like your apartment building if there's like a common area some of the kitchens
03:42:22
Christybut would you accept that as a first date like a home cooked meal I would I would accept that as a person to your house that you don't know yeah like I would cook for someone I would
03:42:34
Christytake the time to like do that for someone I would do that too but it'd have to be like a third or fourth date that's yeah that's what I'm I don't just because it's dangerous to like have someone you don't know like over your
03:42:43
Brian Atlashouse but look I don't know I think are women ever really truly single hmm are they ever there's always some dude there's always some dude in the picture there's always some dude in the picture
03:42:56
Christythey've got a buddy they got somebody they're sleeping and then they meet someone and then they're like oh I like this person a lot more and then they start giving them their attention but here's here's my position
03:43:09
Brian Atlashere's my position I don't even want to pursue a girl if she's sleeping with another guy if I know you're sleeping with another guy that's a wrap for me I don't I don't want to go on a date with
03:43:20
Alex Clarkyou I don't want to pay for a first date I want I don't want to hold your hands in the church but you don't know
03:43:30
TTS ReaderIsaac didn't know you were going to be a guest on the show I'm a huge fan tell these women what a good woman is and what a good man wants in a good woman love your content Isaac and YouTube
03:43:42
Isaac ButterfieldBrian I'll tell you about women thank you Max Zach um yeah I I don't know I go back to the best friend thing I think you can really figure out a lot about a person and I think for a first date go for a walk if you don't want to spend any money and you don't want to control yourself
03:43:54
Isaac Butterfieldfinancially go and do something like that and then over time these things will sort of sell um sort themselves out but yeah the whole thing about having three or four dates lined up I think for a man that feels very I don't feel
03:44:06
Christyyou don't want to feel going I love the walk idea like I've actually had a couple first states where like we take my dog for a walk and like you can just conversate with someone is that you is
03:44:17
Christythat a YouTuber like a great idea
03:44:35
Christythen it's like the guy should pay but if the guy doesn't want to then come up with a creative date like going for a walk cute what you got for us the fact that she said take my dog for a walk like how is like
03:44:47
Qhow's that a date I've if
03:44:56
TTS Readerthat it takes as long for your dog to or like no like go for a nice park I live in Miami there's so many I don't want to like I make songs onto 69 donated 99
03:45:07
TTS Readerthis is for Singh Dynasty what are your thoughts on math couples also wanna take you to Mama Lou's in Monterey Park for xiaolong Bao you can check if I have CTE
03:45:18
TTS Readeryeah I train with UFC fighters no big deal I always get ktfo but it's worth it man shrugging why is he talking about dim sum I think
03:45:31
Brian Atlasthis is directed at you okay okay can you uh yeah let's bring it back up he's just saying what is wmaf couples
03:45:43
Brian Atlaswomen men I have no idea I don't know uh she's in a relationship he asks if you can check if he has CTE since you're a neurologist oh that's that's chronic traumatic
03:45:57
Juanencephalopathy that's basically like concussions like brain injury after multiple concussions you can't diagnosis
03:46:05
Brian Atlassorry if you have a concussion wait after yeah sure after the podcast I do love um so Isaac does have to take off here in a couple minutes we're going to react to a
03:46:18
Brian Atlasquick video before quickly before we react to the video Alex we were having a little back and forth uh you were saying that I need to find a woman in the church is that I'm saying that the standards that you're looking for like
03:46:30
Alex Clarkthis so just not pay on the first date like I don't want a girl that's like sleeping with a bunch of different dudes and all this different I'm saying like the standards that you're wanting like
03:46:39
Alex Clarkthis loyal woman you know all of that you would find just the the lit the list of of things it's really not a huge yeah I'm just saying because otherwise
03:46:51
Alex Clarknot being a lib and all that kind of stuff or just like a woman she could be a political she could be moderate okay fine but I'm saying that that type of woman likely is going to be found in a church and I'm saying so the ideal woman
03:47:04
Alex Clarkthat you're looking for with all these kids are sick she's probably wanting marriage it's like you're looking for a unicorn this woman that's like but doesn't I disagree I just agree I
03:47:16
Alex Clarkthink there's plenty maybe in the tech space but like I feel like the type of woman you're describing could maybe be found but do you do you think I'm like how many I think First Dates do you go
03:47:26
Christyon one yeah how many days like how many First Dates do you go on what's the ratio like what's the ratio like how many in a month ever how much out of
03:47:37
Brian Atlaspretty much ever okay so ever since I started the podcast because I've been super busy with work so I started the podcast like you're in a when that
03:47:46
Brian Atlasabout a year ago uh I really haven't been dating I went on a couple dates here and there uh previously when I'm single I'd maybe do
03:47:58
Christytwo or three dates a month do any of them like have a problem when you say you're not gonna pay when I'm not gonna pay yeah like dude do you ever get backlashed for that or
03:48:09
Brian Atlasthey're all just really cool with it most of them are fine with it yeah have you ever thought about looking for a girl in church no I'm not waiting till marriage so like
03:48:21
Alex Clarkif she's super strict when it comes to the church stuff then no not for me see this is what I'm saying besides them
03:48:33
Alex ClarkI just don't want a chick that's a hoe yes the red pill guys want a traditional woman but they do not want to step up and be a traditional man themselves
03:48:44
Isaac Butterfielduntil marriage to have sex that's the most important part of it it's very important to get you got to get your rocks off no it's like trying buying a car you can't just buy it side unseen you've got to take it for a test when you learn to ride a bike did you have to
03:48:57
Alex Clarklearn on a whole bunch of different bikes or did you learn on one bike I started with training wheels okay but the same bike I took the training wheels off and when you if you're waiting till you're married to have sex it's probably going to be not as great it's going to be
03:49:10
Isaac Butterfieldterrible it's gonna be over you're waiting on it's gonna suck dicks Harmons will be broken and hearts will also be broken I need to go yeah yeah time for the video or not it's cool hey dude thank you for coming in I
03:49:22
Brian Atlasappreciate it absolute pleasure thank you very much guys guys go sub to his channel he he's got a kid he's got to go take off Isaac apologize all good man hey thank you for coming thank you for coming
03:49:33
Brian Atlasum okay so actually can we uh we can take this let's nah put can someone put the mic just on the ground Maybe by his it's number three Nick yeah we have a little more space here
03:49:47
Brian Atlasyeah it's fine um I see here's the thing when it comes to tradition and maybe this is I don't know the only fans thing that's that's okay
03:49:57
Brian AtlasI don't think you like when it comes to being traditional or wanting a bit more traditional I don't think it has to be all or nothing and it quite clearly
03:50:09
Brian Atlasisn't all or nothing because we can make the argument and then why is everything zip it zip it zip it good Christy zip it
03:50:17
Brian Atlasgood okay so how many women who like you can make the argument that in order for a woman to be traditional she needs
03:50:28
Brian Atlasto be a virgin right you can make that argument but like are you a virgin no are we gonna sit here like but you're still a traditional woman right yes but
03:50:39
Brian Atlasyou're not a virgin so and in the same way like I and I don't know if I even really consider myself all that traditional uh but
03:50:49
Brian Atlasis a guy not paying for the first date is that like the epitome of being non-traditional but I just I think it sets the standard to to pay for a girl that's another guy
03:51:02
JuanI'm not I'm not prepared to do that I'm not prepared but she could be she could be but like I mean you said you had two to three dates a month whenever you were dating so then before you said you don't
03:51:15
Brian Atlaswant to date a girl who has other dates lined up so did you line up each of those dates after the you stopped dating one girl uh I mean typically I would typically like the way I was it depends but I
03:51:28
Brian Atlaswould typically pursue one girl at a time uh but like again there's degrees to it you know there's degrees Yeah there's degrees but that's why I'm saying
03:51:39
Juansleeping with multiple other people are different than having multiple dates lined up like that is sort of just like a practical thing that happens when you're using dating apps let's get over this way a little bit if you want
03:51:51
Christyum yeah it it's uh wait okay just because she's going on first seats doesn't mean she's like having sex with anyone at all right but again there's degrees to it so
03:52:02
Christyif you're going on like probably by the time you went on like six seven dates you're probably not going on first seats with other people or at least I wouldn't be unless it's the Rhythm slowed down
03:52:14
Christyand you're like you know this guy's clearly not serious he's gonna it's not gonna get anywhere so then you start going on first date again dates again Q do you play for do you pay for First Dates
03:52:25
Qyeah see and I I don't think that's wrong like I think I was just wondering I think but it's not I don't think about it in a sense that he's thinking about it and then most of the time like women have even paid for my first days so
03:52:37
Qum to me it's more so it doesn't really matter to me because I'm really good at Discerning what type of woman I'm dealing with so I'm confident in that so if I know I'm dealing with a woman who's
03:52:49
QI thought I don't even take her on a date like I won't take a thought on a date can I ask you a question though have you ever dated a woman who on the surface she was
03:53:00
Brian Atlasseemed innocent seemed unassuming she seemed a certain way but in actuality she moved very differently have you ever encountered a woman like that
03:53:10
Qum probably early on in like 21 but not since like just learning psychology and just dealing with women I'm just really good at Discerning which women are which women sure so so it's easier for me to
03:53:22
Brian Atlastell yeah and look again to the men watching if you want to min max your success when it comes to dating you should pay for for the first date however for me it's just like
03:53:33
Madisonplus I kind of like it when a girl Sims you know what I'm saying I think you're prohibiting like a lot of good girls that could have come into your life because you're going in with that mentality that's what I'm saying I'm
03:53:45
Alex Clarksaying you're like exactly the red flag that you're telling men to avoid in women yeah exactly like you are the girl version of what you're allegedly trying to avoid I don't want to get a girl and change her you know but I I don't see
03:53:56
Alex Clarkwhat what is wrong with wanting a woman to equally contribute to the start of a relationship nothing but I think it is it's it it is tradition for a guy to want to pursue the woman and I think that first date why not the second oh