She Is "Traditional" BUT Has An ØF?! | Dating Talk #94
Date: 2023-08-28
Duration: 5h 20m
Guests
Brian AtlasIdentified Speakers
SPEAKER_00TTS Reader(audience)
SPEAKER_01TTS/Video Reader(audience)
SPEAKER_03Christy(guest)
SPEAKER_04Isaac Butterfield(guest)
SPEAKER_05Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_07Juan(guest)
SPEAKER_08Q(guest)
SPEAKER_09Monica(guest)
SPEAKER_10Madison(guest)
SPEAKER_11Alex Clark(guest)
SPEAKER_12Kelly(guest)
SPEAKER_13Christy(guest)
SPEAKER_14Isaac Butterfield(guest)
Key Moments
00:04:17
QuoteAlex Clark introduces herself as host of the Spillover Podcast and real Alex Clark on YouTube.
“I'm Alex I'm the host of the spillover podcast and also real Alex Clark on YouTube”
00:04:26
QuoteIsaac Butterfield introduces himself as Australian comedian, YouTuber, author and father. Has reacted to Whatever videos.
“my name is Isaac Butterfield I'm a comedian from Australia also a YouTuber an author and a father... you've reacted to a couple of our videos”
00:04:58
QuoteQ introduces himself as author of Amazon #1 new release "The QPO: Overdose of Reality" and certified Behavioral Sciences relationship coach.
“I'm the author of Amazon's number one newcoming book The QPO and overdose of reality the remedy for a cold world”
00:05:58
QuoteChristy reveals she went from single to DM-engaged between episodes. Was in talking stages with two men on Tuesday show, now engaged via DMs to a Republican ex she reconnected with through her Eskimo sister.
“I think I'm getting married... he proposed in the DMs... he's a Republican and he comes from a traditional family”
00:09:31
QuoteChristy says she would ghost her newly engaged fiance for Donald Trump if he proposed.
“Trump is Daddy... yeah if he proposed I would totally... I would ghost [my fiance] for that”
02:40:48
QuoteAlex Clark reveals she has dated 5 men in her 20s who were not ready for marriage; every one ended up proposing to the next woman after her, just slightly off in timing.
“the girl after me that they dated that's who they end up getting engaged to it's like they're just our timing is just slightly off where I'm ready and they're not”
03:57:06
OtherKelly leaves the show around the 3:56 mark to go home (has school). Brian says "another one bites the dust."
“another one bites the dust”
04:04:00
QuoteQ gives detailed biological argument for why body count matters: paternity uncertainty, STI risk, behavioral indicators, and the DRD4 gene associated with promiscuity affecting pair bonding.
“The first reason it matters is biologically evolutionarily paternity uncertainty... DRD4 gene... women who are promiscuous you naturally fall in a cycle”
04:06:08
QuoteAlex Clark challenges Q's argument by pointing out the double standard: Q won't have sex before marriage but contributes to women's body counts he then criticizes.
“everything you're saying is correct but you yourself are not willing to not have sex before marriage you're contributing to all these women”
04:31:24
QuoteChristy reveals her self-described body count of approximately 22, contextualizing it as "very low" given her opportunities as an OnlyFans model.
“my body count was like around 22... that is a very very low body count... compared to how many opportunities I have on a daily basis”
04:37:24
QuoteAlex Clark argues the red pill community fails people by not offering hope/redemption for those with high body counts, unlike Christian worldview.
“the red pill Community fails to offer guys is hope that there is redemption... through Christ that they're not going to get through the red pill Community”
05:00:00
OtherIsaac Butterfield left before the main show ended. Referenced at ~5:01 by Christy: "like what Isaac I know he's not here anymore."
“Isaac I know he's not here anymore but what he said about like it being your best friend”
Topics Discussed
00:00:00
Introductions & Show Announcements
Brian opens show from Santa Barbara CA, plugs StreamLabs/Twitch/merch/BLM nonprofit/clip channels. Guests introduce themselves: Christy (33yo OnlyFans model, newly DM-engaged), Monica (22yo hair/airport), Juan (36yo neurologist), Kelly (21yo Nordstrom stylist/student), Madison (18yo Whatever staff/SBCC), Alex Clark (30yo Spillover Podcast/YouTube), Isaac Butterfield (30yo Australian comedian/author), Q (30yo relationship coach/author).
00:05:58
Christy's DM Engagement Reveal
Christy was single on the previous Tuesday show but returns "engaged in the DMs" to a Republican ex. Was in talking stages with two men; reconnected with an ex through her Eskimo sister. Engagement proposed via DMs. He's a Republican from a traditional family, planning to move to Florida. Christy says she would still ghost him for Donald Trump. Chat reacts. Discussion of her engagement and timeline.
00:15:00
Relationship Status Round
Full table round on relationship statuses. Monica: 3-year relationship ("happily married"). Juan: 2-year relationship. Kelly: 1.5-year relationship. Madison: 1.5-year relationship. Alex Clark: single, 5 serious relationships in 20s all ended because men not ready for marriage. Isaac: married 1 year, together ~10 years, wife is best friend. Q: single, dates multiple women openly, has one primary woman.
00:20:00
Q's Non-Monogamous Dating Arrangement
Extended discussion of Q's dating lifestyle: transparent with all women about seeing multiple people, has one "main" woman (27yo) who is monogamous to him. His main woman stays because she sees potential. Discussion on consent, loyalty, whether his arrangement is ethical. Juan asks about time as finite resource. Alex pushes back on whether women can truly consent under emotional pressure. Q argues sexual vs resource loyalty are different. Brian asks if women prefer sharing a high-value man over a committed relationship with a less-desirable man.
01:00:00
Women Ending Relationships & Divorce Statistics
Discussion of who ends relationships more often. Brian estimates ~70/30 women end relationships. Alex: every serious relationship ended because man wasn't ready for marriage. Monica: ends things when she can't see a future. Q: before age 24 women ended things, after that he ended them. Isaac: ~50/50. Discussion of why women initiate ~80% of divorces — Alex attributes it to feminist culture telling women to look outside the home for fulfillment. Brian notes contradiction: women want commitment most, yet end relationships more often.
02:41:40
Red Flag Jobs / Career Turn-Ons and Turn-Offs
Discussion of red flag careers in partners. Christy: garbage man not a red flag, wants a real estate developer. Alex: any attention-seeking career (politician, actor, singer) is red flag due to competition. Isaac: Uber Eats delivery driver as red flag. Kelly: military (too much time abroad). Madison: sex worker. Brian discusses nurses and infidelity statistics. Alex wants partner who can provide for family on his income alone, prefers stable/guaranteed income over commission jobs.
04:00:00
Body Count Debate + Video Reaction
Extended body count discussion prompted by a video from a woman arguing body count "isn't your business." Christy argues for ratio theory (opportunities taken vs offered). Q provides biological/evolutionary reasons body count matters: paternity uncertainty, STI risk, psychological indicators, pair bonding (DRD4 gene). Alex cites scripture about redemption outside red-pill framework. Discussion of why women more commonly initiate casual sex without orgasming. Brian argues body count is proxy for promiscuity and tape adhesion analogy for pair bonding. Panel reacts to the video: Monica disagrees with leaving if asked, Juan neutral, Q strongly disagrees with video's argument.
04:55:00
Partner Preferences / Type Discussions
After-show segment on types. Q: fit, substance/intellectual curiosity. Alex: brunette bearded Eastern European/Middle Eastern type, full head of hair. Monica: beard, fit, adventurous. Juan: articulate, adventurous, traveler, fit, beard, 5'9"+. Christy: sense of humor, conservative/Republican, long hair on a man. Madison: comfort, best friend quality, someone she's excited to come home to. Brian: short women (little person preferred), dark hair, blue eyes slight preference, no plastic surgery/makeup/fake nails, plays violin or cello. Discussion of superficiality differences between men/women.
Transcript
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01:56:33
Brian Atlasfor Trump can't be used as a litmus test for being conservative getting down with the Maga hat is not conservative donating 100. thank you
01:56:43
TTS Readerthank you it's not ideal but someone's gonna do it the extra thing she gets is living the easy life since it's possible at all nobody wants to see Christy be
01:56:54
TTS Readerthe grasshopper don't gang up on the girl toe she's a guest and also don't be jealous of the easy life thank you uh wait what I agree they're
01:57:05
Brian Atlastelling us to stop messing with her and not to be jealous that my life is easier than other people's thank you all right there you have it we have puffy Vegas once again leave the blonde girl alone if this is her life
01:57:16
Brian Atlaslet it be in life I'm sick of you acting like I'm just sick of it okay poppy Vegas I just I can't believe like little old me is so controversial
01:57:27
Isaac ButterfieldI don't think you're controversial at all it's just that one thing like you you say that you're you're a traditional person that's like saying you don't like gay people but then you suck one dick a day like it's not you're not quite there
01:57:38
Isaac Butterfieldyou got to commit to the bed you know what though there are people who say that they can suck dick and not be gay it's a thing apparently you're not gay for sucking mind what's that from um
01:57:49
Christyfrom Harold and Kumar you're gay for suckers Trump Republican only fans girls there's a whole thing on Reddit is it
01:58:01
Christylike a fetish oh you know what it is actually a fetish that I bought a lot of I get a lot of liberal men wanting to pay me to to grade them they don't
01:58:14
Christyactually even want like pictures or videos of me they just want to pay the Republican girl to degrade them for being like a Little People based so that is actually
01:58:25
Christyoh hey I I can do that also without naked pictures I'm like I would do that for free but they're not paying for the naked pictures they're paying for the yeah they have a degradation King yeah yeah yeah yeah okay like I would do that
01:58:38
Brian Atlasfor free if they like commented on my Instagram oh okay well there you go okay now you're gonna get a whole bunch of people right now for it no more all right we have virgin Slayer raspy traditional sex worker please steal men
01:58:50
Brian Atlasthe argument against doing only fans who wait who do you want to steal man you want Kristen to steal man Chrissy yeah oh sorry Chrissy because Chris oh
01:59:00
Brian AtlasChristy excuse me um you want us to steal man kind of confused yeah he's directing it towards argument against
01:59:11
Brian Atlashe wants you to argue for the other side which is why do you think people shouldn't do only fans what's wrong with only fans I don't think
01:59:23
Brian Atlasthere's anything wrong with it there's nothing to be doing it but you so you don't you don't acknowledge that there's you don't think there's any detriment when it comes to having these kinds of photos out there when it
01:59:36
Christycomes to your future husband to your kids zero detriment I really no no Julie did like
01:59:49
Christylectures um when I decided to like take it further I actually thought it was going to negatively impact my dating life where I thought like that could have
01:59:59
Christybeen an option but I decided to go through with it anyway and it has not hurt my dating life and yeah but you've you've only experienced doing only fans in the present like you have no idea
02:00:12
Alex Clarkonce you do have kids and stuff how that could affect them I mean I look at Britney Spears's kids they want nothing to do with her because they're so embarrassed by her nudes and stuff she keeps posting on Instagram yeah I mean no one can predict the future of this table I don't think but I do think it
02:00:25
Christywill be I know you don't want it to be normalized and I'm not saying it should be it's just what is going to happen because there are so many content
02:00:36
Christycreators that like we're gonna we're gonna have kids and it's going to be a normal job it just is so this is why men
02:00:45
Madisonneed to refuse to date and marry women who do only fans so if your kid say if your daughter like came up to you and asked to do only fancy when it weren't any you don't you wouldn't warn her about anything
02:00:58
ChristyI'm not saying I wouldn't warn her of anything I would tell her well I guess that's what wrestling
02:01:06
Brian Atlasyou would do I mean I believe wait questions would you be cool with your mom starting in the only fans I mean she wouldn't but that's mine with
02:01:18
Christymy sister starting in only Vans your sister did no but I was fine if she wanted to if she doesn't want her you'd be cool with your mom like doing fine with anyone your mind you'd be fine with
02:01:28
Christyyour mom doing business or have a joke about them what the okay I've never participated in one and I never will participate in one okay you never can
02:01:39
Christypredict the future I don't know Never Say Never Never Say Never say she has not all right okay we have like if you want to do it here we'll move on it would explain the raspy voice
02:01:53
Christy[Music] kind of professional swallow I've I've never heard they just pop it on the face
02:02:05
ChristyI really thought you just kind of got drenched in it I didn't think you actually like wallowed because there's so much at one time and you're in the middle you're very far away to actually what do you do in a buffet do you just
02:02:17
Christychew it no you swallow it like a real woman traditionally I don't think anyone on this table is on a you don't know me at all I don't understand you saying that you want to homeschool your
02:02:29
Alex Clarkkids and stuff because you're worried about them getting indoctrinated at school you're obviously worried about the well-being of children yet the content that you're putting out on the Internet is so harmful and there could be underage kids that are subbing to your content I don't know if she is
02:02:42
Brian Atlasworried about the well-being of children she's wearing them on her face we're not going to talk about that we do have Lionel Melendez here don't listen to the people that say you aren't
02:02:53
Brian AtlasRepublican because you do of well that's not what we're saying those are the extreme in cells of the right or the super closed minded as to adult content with your partner I'd say it's okay as
02:03:04
Brian Atlaslong as it's not a partner every other month that'll make you a 304 I agree
02:03:11
ChristyI disagree with Mr Lionel Lionel that's like I completely agree
02:03:23
Christywith you want to be a housewife like you just want to you don't want to work you wouldn't want to stay at home well I want to be a housewife but I'll have my only fans who technically so you're gonna have your only fans for the rest of your life
02:03:33
Kellythese wrinkles yeah it's bringing in so much like why would I stop something from bringing in Revenue exactly so that's what I'm doing so like so that's what I'm saying so your daughter is gonna be at home
02:03:44
Kellyhomeschooled on Zoom with her little her teacher but you're gonna be getting in the Next Room in the Next Room by your husband but do you not understand how that is detrimental to your daughter a daughter is not supposed
02:03:57
Kellyto see a woman and their mom and dad a woman a girl is not supposed to have no children that could also lead to like resentment but she can she can see it she can go on the internet she
02:04:08
Monicacan go on the internet but she can go on the internet and see her mom and dad or even if it's not her people like kids kids are mean like they're gonna send it to they're gonna send it
02:04:20
Christyto her they're going to see yeah look at your mom like I'm gonna teach my kids um close their eyes when the photos come on I'm literally gonna teach my kids to be entrepreneurial and to do whatever
02:04:37
Monicawe're not telling you to stop we're trying to get you to be like okay you're trying to get me to say stop it my daughter my daughter is gonna have a horrible life but I don't know
02:04:48
Monicalike why like think about we're telling you think about the kids aspect like the perspective of a kid you may be like oh they're gonna have a good life they're gonna live up going happy they're gonna get to buy whatever they want they're going to get be able to do whatever they
02:05:01
Monicawant we're going to be on Abu Dhabi every other Christmas but what I'm saying is That's So specific what I'm saying is like kids kids are
02:05:13
Monicalike emotional wrecks they're not going to see it how you're seeing it they're going to be like oh my mom is out here doing this and then she's gonna do that at a young she's gonna think it's okay she's gonna think it's okay she's gonna grow up it's gonna be somebody who tells
02:05:25
Monicawho's because she might not have thick skin like you like you have very thick skin your daughter might not have thick skin what people may say might get to her she might get depressed she might you know end up having problems in a way
02:05:37
Monicabut you don't know that you don't know I feel like my mom raised me real good but what my mom expected we're looking to grow up as is not how I do it hey Rachel thank you what would you do as a housewife if you don't want to cook
02:05:49
TTS Readeror clean I do want to talk about what a housewife is a person that takes care of the house and home living I literally said I wanted to cook and clean like I literally yeah I don't know if you
02:06:02
Brian Atlasanswered this totally but let's say your husband was very wealthy he can provide for you don't have to work I don't know he makes a million dollars a year right that's not a lot of money get
02:06:14
Brian Atlaswhat that's that's ridiculous thing anyone's ever said you do okay I don't think that's like how much well just curious how much do you make from oh no I'm not gonna say how much I make but you just said a million dollar is not a lot so if you make more than a million
02:06:28
Christydollars you should be out here saying yeah I make more than a million dollars that's right Kelly is because my stepdad makes way more money than that so you're step but you're 33. why are you relying on your stepdad
02:06:40
ChristyI'm not relying on myself I'm just like wait are we talking about your money because I don't I can't like reveal certain things about my only fans well don't tell us
02:06:52
Isaac Butterfieldtwo million dollars a year was normal for people yeah it's not no it is normal no it wasn't and if you're not making two million dollars a year you're an absolutely losing I'm talking about all
02:07:02
Madisonof you uh salary a man makes a year at 80 80k 40 something yeah yeah and US high value
02:07:12
Brian Atlaspeople we make two million right hold on you think most people you think most people Jersey
02:07:33
Christywhat's happening in New Jersey I just don't I don't think it's not weird can you give us a ring dollars a range like do you make five figures a month okay
02:07:57
Brian Atlaslet me just okay so hold on you think someone making a million dollars a year is not enough well I mean this is the thing I'm not
02:08:09
Christysaying it's not enough for me but when you're like if someone if you meet someone that's so so wealthy would you stop it and then you said a million I was like oh I don't think that's the wealthy person that's me but not saying
02:08:22
Brian Atlasyou're not well millionaire is not a wealthy I mean I don't know I live in Miami maybe things are like different I'm saying a million dollars a year that's enough in any city in the U.S for you to like for you to be a stay-at-home
02:08:33
Christywife and not have to work oh how about we take the million dollars thing away and just say if it was an extremely wealthy man and I did answer
02:08:43
Christythis but they didn't like the word I said considered okay 10 million a year I said I would consider if he wanted me to do it and then people got mad that I said
02:08:52
Christybitter and not just a hard yes because you can't just give anything a hard yes without consideration first but yeah but I mean so if you wanted me to do it I
02:09:05
Christyprobably would get rid of it if if that was a big deal to him that was like a make or break and I was in love with him but like I I you are addicted to the attention from
02:09:17
Christyonly fans I have literally not had any guy tell me that I would need to delete my own because no guy has wanted to marry you yet
02:09:27
Christywhere's the ring my ex-boyfriend wanted to marry me and he loved that I was but how did that turn out well I broke up with him fair enough so but he wanted to make it work really really bad like he
02:09:40
Christythought so then why didn't you want to marry him because I could just tell he wasn't my person like I'm not gonna just marry just anyone just like how we were saying it's very important to date someone and get to know them and like
02:09:53
Christythere's a thing called intuition and you either feel like someone is meant to be with you forever or that you don't and I'm not gonna date someone just because I I didn't feel like it was my my forever and I don't want to get divorced
02:10:05
Isaac Butterfieldwe've done a lot of talking about what's gonna like why wouldn't you think about stopping it for your kids but it's too late so you've got to think about now how you're going to allow them to cope particularly if you have a young boy like I know we're talking about young girls and stuff but I think it's really
02:10:18
Madisondamaging for a young boy to be shown in school to add to that you also keep saying you're going to teach them to be entrepreneurs you can teach your kids anything but they're going to do something else you can tell your kids to not do drugs but they're still going to do drugs what would you say to your son
02:10:30
Isaac Butterfieldif he's 15 years old and they say he comes up and says listen they keep showing me these photos of you and your ex-boyfriend from 2022.
02:10:39
Alex ClarkI mean this is the thing I the way I'm gonna raise them oh my God this is the recipe for like creating a serial killer like that's like what I'm
02:10:51
Christyimagining like my mom that's what you're imagining but he just asks you what would you do stars with kids but how about the kids right I don't know should we bring them all on this podcast should we interview but
02:11:04
Brian Atlaswhat would you say to your son if your son said I've seen this I've seen he's gonna have already known that before but he's saying it there's a difference I feel like we've been sticking on this for a little too long let's move on uh
02:11:16
Brian AtlasEmily go to bro we have puffy Vegas have the blonde girl rape me puffy Vegas have all the girls raped me one out of tens in the picture I think Poppy's office
02:11:28
Brian Atlasyeah puffy you gotta do puffy I've told you man if you want an Instagram rating you have to do it through streamlabs send one TTS through streamlabs and we'll
02:11:40
Brian Atlasrate you buddy infinite Singularity hey thank you for the 50 at this table foresight eludes us all except of course for our resident Oracle Alex
02:11:52
Brian Atlasall right we have blackface Trudeau with 60 Euro I believe was that Euro or no wait that's Euro right yeah yeah
02:12:03
Brian AtlasGangsta Trump would say trfk Jr belongs to the streets what up Brian big fan also carb strong can suck vegan balls Isaac knows what I mean
02:12:14
Isaac Butterfieldand congrats on 2 million plus Subs Isaac congrats man not an only fans I wish they would Jeff responds to Trudeau uh Mr Beef ice Trudeau thank you uh yeah Joey carbstrong is a vegan activist who
02:12:26
Isaac Butterfielduh spent a bit of time in jail for some violent crimes and now he doesn't like me uh so yeah oh there's like a beef I have a lot of beef here great pun uh I have a lot of beef with the vegans I have uh anti-vegan merch I sell
02:12:39
Isaac Butterfieldvegan jerky um I've made a lot of money out of them you wouldn't converts veganism
02:12:50
Isaac Butterfieldveganism is a cult much like religion's occult it's all occult we're supposed to be eating meat now true stop talking about work laughs
02:13:02
Brian AtlasI'm a huge carnivore I'm just not into the vegan I think did that just yeah no no I got it oh okay okay because I got it okay penis but I actually was just
02:13:13
Isaac Butterfieldlike I like that you're so against veganism yeah I built my I built the start of my channel on anti-vegans and antipsychics yeah yeah Peter doesn't like me either they block me it's um I've been trying to get them to hate me
02:13:25
Isaac Butterfieldit's easy I've been trying to get them to hate me just keep going just don't stop just keep attacking they're crazy it's fantastic they're very easy people to annoy wait did I and I've seen quite a few of your videos did you ever do a
02:13:37
Isaac Butterfieldvideo where you went to like a vegan establishment and you were eating like meat in front of them no I I I did um I can't remember this is because like
02:13:49
Isaac Butterfieldover the last five years I've uploaded like 600 videos on YouTube so sure I forget about every video I do as soon as I post it but there's been a lot there's been I I've done a lot of different things on my channel and with stand up
02:14:01
Isaac Butterfieldand I get the most death threats from vegans it's hilarious oh yeah it's great I've been canceled for jokes about Muslim people uh about oh just like I I did a horrible joke back in the day it
02:14:12
Isaac Butterfieldwas hilarious but horrible as well I had I had about 10 000 DMS in the first like two or three hours that it went through and it ended up about 60 000 in two days all death threats but I still get more
02:14:23
Brian Atlasfrom vegan people and that is because wow they are weak pieces of oh wow okay now I'm gonna get I'm gonna go there you go right to that one I'm gonna go cancel that um okay just the last thing on the whole of thing I just want
02:14:36
Brian Atlasto say one thing if there's any young women who are watching please do not model your lifestyle after women who do only fans thank you
02:14:45
Christyvery much uh yeah I honestly didn't think my only fans is such a big deal I thought we were just gonna make
02:14:57
Christywhen I first came onto the show I'm like oh I just thought we were looking until funny dating stuff we'll get to that we'll get to that I think it was gonna be like the topic of a deal and I think if I said I was a liberal it wouldn't
02:15:08
Alex Clarkhave been a deal like big deal I think it's that I know myself so it's interesting it's Unique to have someone say I'm conservative but I do only fans yeah like if you're some
02:15:21
Christyliberal feminist chick it'd just be like okay yeah you're like like that was the Shocker that I'm like a republican no that's not okay is the fact that you say
02:15:32
Kellythat you are a traditional woman that you want Traditional Values but you have an only fan yeah the shock is actually that more
02:15:47
Christy[Music]
02:16:06
Brian AtlasI don't know if look if you if there's again if there's any young women watching if you ever want to get married if pictures of yourselves excuse me if pictures of yourself doing sexual things are all over the Internet your husband
02:16:18
Brian Atlasand your kids will not appreciate that just saying okay I don't think the husband don't worry about it don't worry about it don't worry about it all right we have Danny De la Torre here girls have asked me if I talk to other girls
02:16:29
Brian Atlaswhile doing so with them I don't care if they're talking to other guys though but if you have side hoes and your main talks to another guy that is Fair Game dating cannot have double standards
02:16:40
Brian Atlasis this I think this is related to Q oh fdg oh okay thank you very much merci beaucoup it means the world we have okay so he's
02:16:53
Brian Atlassaying if I talk to other girls while doing so with them I don't care if they're talking another see I think this is where Q disagrees I I kind of disagree uh if if this is what
02:17:04
Brian Atlasyou've negotiated if you've negotiated a unilateral closed on their end or closed on their end to open on yours and they're cool with that I think that's totally legit I think it's going to be hard to get and actually Q I have a
02:17:17
Brian Atlasquestion for you on this and if you want to respond to him um what is your pitch to a girl like so you say you you disclose to them hey you know like what is your pitch what is the
02:17:28
Brian Atlasselling angle how do you sell it to a girl well I guess there's a couple different things one there's the non-monogamy component but then also like with a with your main chick how do you sell
02:17:40
Qclosed on your end open online just like that oh you just say that oh a flame life just like that and then no thank you and then
02:17:51
Qum responding to him uh he said double standards cannot but they can because of biology they can because of biology and they can because of the way the male brain works versus the way the female
02:18:00
Qbrain works and as I said if you know that a woman gets attached you know this woman is selective she only wants to date one guy and she chooses to be committed to you you're the guy that she's attached to and she chooses to
02:18:12
Qremain committed to you despite the fact that you date other girls that's a hundred percent her choice the onus is on her however if I communicate that I'm aware that you're this way I know that
02:18:25
Qif you date another guy that you would like that guy because of the way you move with me and because the way you move prior to me then I'm not accepting that because I know I already lost you to begin with there would be even no no
02:18:36
Qpoint of being contestant it's like oh I started dealing with this guy I know that for you to have been dealing with that guy it's been premeditated y'all have been talking you've allowed him to sexually arouse you you're going out with him you spent time with him you've
02:18:49
Qgot close to him you've been intimate with him and so that guy's gonna naturally give you what you feel like you aren't getting from me which is the commitment especially if he's only dealing with you so you're going to have more incentive to leave regardless so
02:19:01
Brian Atlastherefore it doesn't matter aren't there there's a whole bunch of double standards some that benefit men some that benefit women and I I guess Danny De la Torre Torre whatever sorry
02:19:13
Brian Atlasif I got your name wrong there do you pay for the first date that's a double standard that men are expected to pay for the first date just saying like do you are you 50 50 on
02:19:25
Brian Atlaseverything Danny delay delay Torres there's a lot of girls running around with free dinners
02:19:34
Brian AtlasNick can you pull up twitch really quick let's shout out twitch guys go to twitch.tv oh go to twitch.tv slash whatever drop
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Brian Atlasthank you for the prime man appreciate it okay so I had a couple notes Here uh let's see hold on actually really quick on the whole like
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Brian Atlascue situation and it being closed on one end would any of you consider dating a guy where it's closed on your end open on his absolutely not I would not Trump what about for Donald Trump
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Christythat's why I said I don't want him to have to get divorced that's why I wouldn't put myself in the picture what about you do that ever keep in mind this could be like your
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Monicaideal guy you could be very high status very attractive personal like
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Juanlike we break up but you stay there I go out I don't know like I can't sure I don't know I I wouldn't monogamy would be a core value for me and just on that double
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Juanstandard you know I would also offer up that there are women out there who have multiple male partners and the male partners are monogamous to them so you know I don't think there's anything
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Madisonwrong as long as everyone agrees okay um no I wouldn't I wouldn't want to do that personally I could not would not be my ideal man if he would not be
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Alex Clarkmonogamous to me Alex absolutely Donald Trump absolutely not huh she's scarred no I just like it's that's disgusting and also I just wouldn't I would lose
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Alex Clarkattraction for a guy if I wasn't like the only woman in his life like if I really liked him and he was my ideal 10 out of 10 guy or whatever but if he was talking to other girls besides me and I
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QI knew I was an option I would lose attraction for him you know one of the interesting things that I love about this is you asking them what they think they would do and I always say women don't honestly know what they would do
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Quntil they're actually in the situation and their emotions the emotionally charged variables that factor into that equation are actually present I think I know what I would do in this situation yeah I mean you can say what you would
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Alex Clarkdo on the outside looking in until you're actually in a situation I don't think any of you have ever been in the situation is Sophie's Choice like I would never know girls no I'm saying that because I'm
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Qsaying that because I'm saying that because I'm also I'm also a relationship coach and I see women do I see women all the time who say one thing and actually do another in reality and that's most of
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Qthe women that I deal with women love saying what they would or wouldn't do as I said you're on the outside looking in you're not in love you don't know how you feel you're not overwhelmed with the feelings that you have for that guy you don't know that none of you do you can't
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Qsay that you can say what you think you wouldn't do until you're actually in a situation and you and there are circumstances to where you start to rationalize you start to tell yourself well maybe I can change his mind or maybe it's me maybe it's something that
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QI can do there are all kind of things that women go through that they tell themselves emotionally when they're caught up and that's how so many women end up caught up that's how women end up talking about boys that's how they end up talking about oh this guy did me wrong because a lot of the times those
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Qwomen are caught in situations because they're slaves to their emotions and women are often slaves to their emotions when you're not emotionally present in what I'm saying then yeah you can say no I wouldn't do that I absolutely wouldn't do that but if we're talking about sorry
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Madisondo you want to go ahead if we're talking about non-monogamous relationships 90 per 92 of non-monogamous relationships fail and it's because one of the reasons is because it's not a mutual decision
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Qwell you say in relationships I'm not talking about relationships yeah you're talking about like being in a committed relationship dating a guy I'm talking about if a guy is dating you and he's dating multiple women but y'all aren't connected to one of them yeah
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Madisonexactly that's what I'm about to say because it's it's never a mutual decision and a lot of the women that are going into non-monogamous relationships that are initiated by the man just feel like they have to say yes because they don't they're too scared you know what
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Juanelse women say they wouldn't do they say they wouldn't stay if they got cheated on women are driven by their emotions a lot so in that case wouldn't you as a relationship coach try to coach women on
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Qunderstanding what their boundaries are and sticking with them who said I did I didn't I'm just asking you just you asked that question and that question is already on a presupposition that I don't okay so then I absolutely do I
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Qabsolutely do because I want women to make decisions I want them to draw boundaries and at the end of the day the goal is to give the woman a choice so women don't feel like they don't have a choice that's why you're open honest and
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Qtransparent that's why you say hey this is what the situation is this is what's going on this is what I want you can do what you want or you can tell me that you want to conform to what I'm doing and you leave the decision up to her
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Qwomen feel the the feelings of malice come from feeling betrayed feeling lied to feeling like they didn't have a choice so what do you do you eliminate those feelings you eliminate the feeling of betrayal you eliminate the feeling of
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Qthey don't have a choice you allow them to make their own decision and that's when their emotions come in that's why I said If a woman really likes you a woman will stay through things that she thinks she wouldn't stay through I can attest
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Qto that and men who get women can attest to that regardless of what women say because women say the same things I've dealt with women I've oh you know I can keep this casual oh no I really like it
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Juana little bit is where you're saying that a woman will sort of prove you're her proof how much she cares about you if you can sort of um if she proves to you that she's
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Juanwilling to do things that she wouldn't otherwise do what that sounds like to me is sort of already having a little bit of soft boundaries so the other way to approach that would be asking the woman what are your boundaries and coaching her on how to stick with that and that
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Kellywould be the approach that that I would take overall I think it's just different when you like he said like you we're not in if you're in love it's completely different like when you're with like when you are really really like in love
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Kellywith this person it does not matter what they say what they do you're still just gonna love that person and like the fact that we're all talk we were talking about this like show I like where some of us are clearly Nyla I've like you know I've been with that's why I respect
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Qyour answer you you said no and you said I honestly don't know you know why she doesn't know because she know how she feel about him right now and she make that decision based on how she feels about him right now and I think it's perfectly fine to not know you know we don't all have the answers right here
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Juanright now and things change over time you know maybe one day one person says they want to be monogamous the the next six months after six months things change or they are in their head space changes they want to open up the relationship at your past if they want
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Juanto be monogamous again so it's a fluctuating thing we don't always have to know in the moment but I think there is a difference between saying a woman doesn't know because she's a slave to her emotion and how she feels might
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Juanchange that's true but you can also take the approach of saying well so think about what your priorities are what you want and how can we figure out how to navigate within those boundaries without
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Qviolating yourself and see once again this is why I'm speaking from now I'm speaking from a place of authority because do you know how often I've tried that I've preached that to women do you
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Qknow how much women don't listen when they're in love do you know how many women come to me when they schedule a coaching session and they tell me what the issue is and the type of guy that they're dealing with and I tell them
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Qabout boundaries I tell them leave I tell them these things they don't do it they won't do it it's simple see it's different see as I said behaviorally
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Qwhen you see it their behaviors contradict what they say they would do I would never or I could do this then when they're in a situation okay this is your opportunity to do it no he told me this he told me that and you're also
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Qforgetting the factor that men say things to the women on the other end so she's not going to listen to the outside world if you could tell a woman you need to leave him her friend seller you need to leave him everybody tells you you
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Juanneed to leave him what matters more to her is what he's telling her so what would you advise a female to do in that situation and then she's stuck in a situation where she wants to leave but is having a hard time leaving there's nothing you can do outside of
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Qtelling her what she needs to do you can't force her to she has to come to that realization on her own all these things are bad dudes though what do you mean like everything that you've said about giving people like I feel like one of the one of the issues
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Isaac Butterfieldwith people taking on board what you're saying is you're allowing people to do things when you say that you allow it sort of means that you're demeaning someone I think I know what you're saying but I reckon that wording is probably not the best way to get your point across I think with
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Isaac Butterfielddo because dudes could be emotional wrecks too dudes can be cheated on and stay with the woman dudes can do all of those types in there coach them too so yeah you're saying you can say those but I think it's important to say that because otherwise it looks like you're
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Qattacking women what you're not doing well yeah no but it's important to say that otherwise yeah but it's about it's about the it's about where does it occur more sure there's a disparity between how often men experience that and how often women experience that and
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Qtypically it's the woman experiencing it a lot more than the man is okay because men are more like men will leave if men get cheated on they leave because women women stay what's that important odd thing do you think like does it just hit
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Isaac Butterfieldthe pride or does it is it more of a built into your DNA that this person isn't the one to carry your child there's both I say the pride stems from
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Isaac Butterfieldwhat's built into your DNA okay yeah yeah I also okay it's a very concise way to finish off what you're saying
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Isaac Butterfieldthat it is all built into our DNA I think there's a book is it is it someone younger younger Carl Young yeah yeah the book about um sexual behavior
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Isaac Butterfielda very interesting read talking about why we do what we do and everyone should read that how it sort of fits into current uh societal norms and cultural norms and how we sort of trust certain people to carry our Offspring and don't
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Qtrust others I think that's it's really it really speaks quite loudly if you allow if you will listen to it yeah and if you if you realize a lot of um a lot of domestic abuse
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Qum comes from women who have committed an act of infidelity or they perceive that the woman has committed an act of infidelity that's that pride and jealousy that comes into play so when a woman cheats a man is much more likely
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Qto put his hands on her if he finds out because of that sexual jealousy like sexual jealousy is um in a sense more intense for men because men values uh sexuality more
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Qthan women do like emotional cheating is deeper for women and sexual cheating is deeper for men so it's harder for a man to overcome sexual infidelity than it is for a woman to overcome sexual
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Qinfidelity and it's also more difficult for a woman to overcome emotional infidelity than it is for her to overcome sexual infidelity because they place two different values on those things two different weighted values so
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Qemotional infidelity means more to women because as I said women are emotions is how men demonstrate you know allocating resources investing in resources so if a woman if a man is cheating emotionally then to that woman that means he's
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Qgiving that woman other things that he normally gives her which means he really likes her whereas a woman if she's cheating then that means she has the possibility of conceiving that man's child and him
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Qum fathering a child that's not his so we take that much more seriously because that possibility because of that paternity uncertainty yeah from an evolutionary biology
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Juanbiology standpoint the the worst thing a male can do is give his resources to an offspring that's not his and the worst thing that a female can do is kind of lose the the caregiver who can give the resources so from a from a purely
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Alex Clarkevolutionary biology standpoint obviously Society has evolved to be not just about that but you know that still drives our actions right I don't understand the concept of being a dating coach without being married like what is your credentials to be telling people
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Qhow they should date I'm on a psych degree and then the actual fact that you had to take a course you have to take like a two-month course on becoming a certified relationship coach and there's a science to it so it makes no sense for
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QI hate when people say that you don't have to be something or in something in order to talk about what the science reveals about no I agree with that exactly so that's that you just answered your own question okay how many women have you dated that have taken your
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Alex Clarkcourse and I've taken my course have you ever dated a woman that has paid to take your course no coaching you should brought it into the syllabus yeah
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JuanI have had clients who are attracted to me but I've never dated any of my clients yeah so yeah sorry just just going back to just clarifying how you would cancel a woman just kind of trying to understand that so you were saying that
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Juanwomen are driven by their emotions but in the sense where you see and she sees that she's in an unhealthy relationship she wants to leave you want her to leave as her relationship coach
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Qum but she's not leaving so I guess in that case it's like how do you handle that it's only so much I can tell you it's only so much guidance I can give you because at the end of the day you're going to make the decisions that you're
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Qgoing to make so if you choose that then at that point then yeah I can I can only guide you and advise you on what it would be the most
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Juaneffective course of action for for your sanity but I think we're kind of saying the similar things I guess my end goal is just that what so it's high good advice her is to sort of put herself first and listen to her
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Juanum sort of feeling on what is good for her right and try to enact those things so in a sense not listening to her emotions as strongly but actually acknowledging kind of where her boundaries and priorities are in going after that so I think it sounds like
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Qwe're kind of saying that yeah yeah we're saying yeah we're saying the same thing I'm just saying it's much more difficult in actual reality you know it's easier to tell a woman what she should do versus what she's actually going to do because as I said I'm not the guy I'm not the guy on the other end
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Qwho you know every time she feels that she has the strength to leave he pulls her back in or he tells her something she wants to hear or he tells her he's going to change or he tells her he's going to stop doing this and because she loves him she wants to believe him and
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Qthe fact that she wants to believe him keeps her invested in the relation because she believes that at some point he'll change see it because that's what I was talking about earlier with the potential yeah like she sees the
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Qpotential so he can change so hope is a strong emotion see hope is a really strong emotion if that woman has hope for that man then it's going to be really really tough to get her out of that I want to bring it back really quick to
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Brian Atlasyou Christy then I I'm gonna go around the table on something you said on another show that you do only fans because men aren't doing what they're supposed to is that correct
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Brian Atlaswait sorry can you review that yeah you said on on another show that you do only fans or you were driven to do only fans because men aren't doing what they're
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Christysupposed to be doing is that a correct is that the correct statement um maybe and I'm not exactly sure if I'm like like
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Christythere could be two ways that that goes but um I think that girl like if we were being taught to raise like
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Christywe were being taught Traditional Values opposed to being top feminism then women would get like married and people would just be getting married younger and not
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Christydo what not having only fans not have a job like okay well you've kind of just walked yourself into no it's like if we were because they like are forcing like
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Christythis feminists and like liberal stuff and it's like normalized now but if this were like the olden days it's like you get married young and the man goes to
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Alex Clarkwork and the female stays home with the kids and that's what I believe in but that's just not how our society is anymore which is a shame that it is but a guy could be doing everything that he's supposed to do like if that's your standard but not make a million dollars
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Christya year you said that's still not enough then for you to quit well I'm just saying that um I I don't see myself quitting in the future what do you want someone to do everything for you
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Isaac Butterfieldwhy do I why do you want someone to do everything for you how do I want someone to do everything for me well you want to be the traditional I want to start I don't want to have to work I don't have to do any of that why do you want I believe that men and women are not
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Christywe are equally as important but we are not equally the same man's strength and a woman's strengths are completely different a woman's strengths are the equivalent to a man's weaknesses and a man's strengths are the equivalent to a
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Isaac Butterfieldwoman's weaknesses and that's why together we make a whole that's why they we mate in the first place should you should you be seen and not spoken to or not not speak rather like saying and
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Isaac Butterfieldnot heard that type of thing like because that's the traditional mindset in a marriage like the woman stands there and looks pretty is that what you mean by a traditional marriage because I
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Christywould think if I was a woman that that's no I'm I think I just explained it I mean that the woman is supposed to be the caretaker and the man is supposed to be the provider and I think that's how
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Isaac Butterfieldyou it sounds like you and your wife work we work we work 50 50 on everything yeah we look after our son 50 50 on everything okay and I feel like that is absolutely without a doubt the best way
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Isaac Butterfieldto live it and I think there's a there's a recent Stat or study or whatever came out about Millennial fathers of spending something like 81 more time with their kids than ever before and that creates a whole generation of better young people
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Isaac Butterfieldbe it boys or girls who makes them a whole lot better and I think mixing it up in the Family household is such an important thing to do there's nothing wrong with staying at home and cooking and cleaning and all those type of
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Isaac Butterfieldthings but as long as your husband pulls his weight that is so important because otherwise you start to resent each other oh I have to go to work all day I have to clean all day I'm not arguing against
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Christyfathers being in the home I think fathers should be in the home I think no that's not what I said that's not what I mean that's not what I mean I know but I think you're just like what what am I doing I don't know what you're trying to
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Isaac Butterfieldget at that like it's so no I just I just don't think that you actually want to be completely taken care of I don't think anyone wants that I think you lose a place in life when you do that you
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Isaac Butterfielddon't actually you lay on your deathbed and go well I'm glad I you know got Cartier Jewelry bought for me where's the fun in that where's the happiness and that you've got to make something
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Brian Atlasfor yourself wait so do you object to households where the husband is the sore bred winner no not at all because sometimes it's because I'm the sole breadwinner it's sometimes it's a it's a financial decision but you're still going to have something that you're
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Isaac Butterfieldworking on but you you were saying everything's like 50 50. yeah but you are you talking are you talking about finances or no not so much finances I am the sole Breadwinner but my wife is involved in creating the videos
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Isaac Butterfieldoh which is involved in your business yeah it's like editing and she has her own business that she works on she helps with basically coming up with video ideas she's written jokes for me in the past sometimes the most the joke so
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Isaac Butterfieldshe's like involved in Europe she's involved she's involved and she sells the merch after shows she does all of those type of things and I I love that we do that together and I'm completely fine with that I I want my husband to be
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Christythis sore Breadwinner but that doesn't mean I wouldn't do things with him like I would completely make businesses with him and stuff I like the entrepreneurial mindset it's just like I would go into
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Christyreal estate or create a business or something but I'm not gonna be like the leader of taking charge of that business I'll play a role in that but my main goal will be to be a mom wait there's
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Brian Atlasnothing wrong with that I I got I got a question for the whole panel here uh first off just show up hands who here wants to be married have a husband one day
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Brian Atlasor or a wife I guess a wife or not you know because we do things back we do we do have to fight you so all the girls want to get married correct and you're
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Brian Atlaswho wait you're engaged but nobody here is married except for you correct um question for the ladies do you take your husband's last name in
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Christymarriage go ahead okay um I don't want to take my husband's last name unless it's Chomper Kennedy because mine is such a good one and it's it's really like this is another Factor
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Christythis is not traditional I know that is not traditional I just really my last name's like I just really like my last name I know I know that's not traditional but traditional woman by the
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Christyway she won't take her husband's life I'm not saying I definitely won't but like I don't I worry that my husband's last name is gonna be something that I don't want
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Juanokay here let's go around the table let's go around the table would you take your husband's last name I would I don't feel strongly about it one way or the other way um if he felt really strongly about it and it was important for him I would
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Brian Atlastotally do it but otherwise it just feels like a lot of like paperwork and hassle to go through changing everything well okay like I guess the other component of this is like he wants his the kids to have his last name too
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Brian Atlasso you know mine so I'm totally fighting well I mean that that sort of thing is negotiated and yeah I mean it doesn't strike me as something that's
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Kellytraditional but it is something that is negotiated uh Kelly what about you I want to hyphenate no Kelly because because I like she's I love my last name stop everyone calls me by my personal
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Kellylast name like that's like my nickname so like what's your last name Lou so my name is Kelly Lou so it's like fun to say you know so like and my boyfriend's last name is Murray so it's going to be
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KellyKelly Lou Murray oh hyphenated yeah do you want him to hyphenate too no what about for the kids they can just have his I don't care but it's just like the fact that and then I also have attached my last name tattooed on my back so it's
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Kellylike oh you know but like kind of committed she's stronger I love like everyone calls it my manager calls up me that like everyone calls me like yeah
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Kellyyou know like my name is just Kelly it's kind of boring but like oh hey Kelly Lou like that sounds very
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Brian AtlasI absolutely want Frankie's last name you want Frankie's last name I didn't know are there any negatives to having well I mean just it takes a bit of time to you know you got to go to the courthouse get your name changed it costs a little bit of money then there's
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Brian Atlassome time you gotta get your credit cards changed various everything all that oh I do all of that to happen but it's like it takes like it's like a day of work a day or two of work I think
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JuanI'll wait what's that you can do the work and the paperwork you can do the work he'll do the following uh Alex what about you when I get married I absolutely want to take a guy's last name and I think that is the
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Alex Clarkultimate traditional thing to do because it's tradition it is women it's tradition and it's important because women have babies right we we physically can say like this is my child and there's proof physically but the only
02:43:39
Alex Clarkthing that a guy can do is to give that child his last name and so women have babies guys have sorry yeah women have babies guys have maybes unless they're giving that child their last name they
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Alex Clarkare pledging to protect to provide and be there and so I definitely want his last name and I want my kids to have his life I want the same name as my kids yeah yeah you guys hyphen it or did she take your last name no she took mine if
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Isaac Butterfieldshe wants to get paid every week then yeah she has to it is 2023 men can have children too as well so I just like to add that in there um I think it's important because it's I don't know if you look into the Crux of
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Isaac Butterfieldit like it's actually not that important and you start to really nail down and go okay why do we want that why do we want but it is tradition just for the sake of argument so say you're in a household where the female
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Juanearned more money and was the head of household in that case couldn't arguably be made for the family to take the females last name so is this truly like who is head of the household or is it
02:44:36
Isaac Butterfieldmore like I think it's stronger like in a bench press yeah like my wife can bench press more than me so it's just like a new gym like more masculine women yeah she's got a bigger clip than my dick is than she
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Madisoncan take what where people take the woman's last name or is that just like yeah I've had a couple who did that at least enough
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Brian Atlasuh what do you think would you uh let's say you were gonna marry a girl and she's like I'd like to hyphenate no go no we ain't hyphenate no hot there you go no hyphenated no
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Kellyhyphenating zero hyphenating see here's the sense here's the problem is that offensive like if a girl wanted a hyphenate yeah I think it is my name is so short already and even
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Kellywith Kelly Murray that doesn't sound as good but I think that's like saying you're traditional is that not I mean I I don't care if my I want my kids to have his last name but it's like it's
02:45:35
Alex Clarklike my middle name I just think when a woman refuses to to get rid of her last name entirely even with a hyphen you're saying like you're not fully willing to let him lead commit and and you're wanting to keep a part of yourself when
02:45:49
Alex Clarkyou get married you're supposed to become one and then the man the man is supposed to be the leader and the head of the house I think when we keep our last name what it is you have to you have to love him so bad you get that
02:46:00
Christylast night kids if it's really really bad you don't want to give it to your kids and his last name is I I really like my name it depends on
02:46:11
Christywhat my Trump future husband's last name is Trump or Kelly I would I always thought like I'd end up giving my kids all the same middle name which would be my last name and then like hopefully
02:46:23
Brian Atlasthey could go by kind of more their first and middle name if it was like a bad last name for that but it could be like on their birthday I don't really have a dog in this fight because I mean it it's possible I could get married
02:46:35
Isaac Butterfieldmaybe it's possible maybe I think it's unlikely how old are you 34. you'll get married someone's gonna turn up one day and you
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Isaac Butterfieldjust go just gonna rock your world yeah I'll walk you will yeah that's that's that's that's my body but if okay if I were to get married I would want
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Brian Atlasto use my last name certainly for the kids uh I think the problem with with uh hyphenation especially with the kids long term just on a practical level you
02:47:10
Brian Atlascan like let's assume everybody started hyphenating you can't do it because then what you like two people with hyphenated last names they get married then
02:47:21
Brian Atlasthey got four last names all of a sudden then it this is exponential son it's gonna be like last name then it's eight then it's what 16.
02:47:32
Monicasome coaches do that like it's kid it's people who are smart and they name their kids like these long-ass names and they'll be like seven or eight names
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KellyHispanics yeah Hispanics uh Africans but just because I hyphenate the last name does that mean my kids yeah like you don't necessarily have to give it to your kids no but yeah I think I think
02:47:54
Kellythat's not as bad but like when it comes to the kids you know because I wouldn't want my kids to be last name to be mine and his I would just want it to be his but she wants to keep her and I've never heard that before I like that like I
02:48:06
Monicadon't think that matter like I wouldn't I don't care but you just add it on and then yeah I think that's something so like a lot of people don't make their kids names but for the most part like on
02:48:18
Monicaon her marriage license is her name hyphenated my stepdad's name but wherever she goes she goes by his name
02:48:26
Brian Atlaslike she says her name she goes by her his last name I'm just for me I'm very very I'm pretty pretty against
02:48:36
Brian Atlasgetting married I'm on the fence with it so if you're trying to convince me as my future wife to get married you got to take the last name you want me to do this traditional marriage thing you
02:48:48
Juangotta take the last name it is what it is changing the last name is so cultural too because there's other cultures that are much more paternalistic where name changing isn't a thing so right this feeling of like if if you aren't truly
02:49:01
Juaninvested in the relationship you don't want to be my woman this is America change my name that's true we're in America that's true but I'm just saying that this products changed their names
02:49:10
JuanBrian okay go ahead let's calm down I'm just saying it's not it's not true in the families they don't change their name like they just add it
02:49:22
Monicaand some coaches I'm not saying that's right like you might get a girl super like I'm down for my family we have this name in our family for like years but for you I'll change it word right yeah it's I'm not like we're
02:49:34
Kellynot saying it's impossible okay right I think you're gonna get married at like 39.
02:49:47
Brian Atlasyou're gonna be like he'll wear plaid tucks a plaid tucks I think in order for me to actually consider marriage she would have to out
02:49:59
Brian Atlasearn me I think like she would have to outrun me that's you don't want you don't want a broke girl huh you don't want a broke girl I mean I'd for a partner I would
02:50:10
Brian Atlasdate a broke girl I guess but if for marriage you want marriage it's very kind of you Brian very generous
02:50:21
Alex Clarklike the chance she has to make over more than you yeah so beta to me to be like a guy to be that scared of women and like marriage bro it's not beta it's the most gangster
02:50:34
Alex Clarkwait you can do it wait wait to be like smart about your money just like always thinking every woman is out to get you and manipulate you like that is beta because it's not beta it's not no it's smart no no no no smart it's
02:50:46
Monicaprobably smart but I'm confused because you guys are always arguing that women who make more won't want a guy who makes less but you're saying you want the woman who makes more
02:50:58
Juanwhat play your math I don't I don't think you're singing that's why you want a woman who makes more you'd only marry a woman who makes money she for me to get married
02:51:09
Brian AtlasKelly's children gonna have the last name Lou Marie and King Smith Hodgson well I think Kelly said that she's cool with her kids having the father's last
02:51:20
Brian Atlasname I want them to have I don't want them to I don't want them to have my life yo Avenger the offender thank you for the TTS uh yeah I would say when it comes to uh to marriage
02:51:33
Brian AtlasShe's Gotta make more than me she's got out on me oh of course Alex runs away when I'm about to respond to her it's okay apology accepted well do we
02:51:46
Brian Atlashave any chats we don't have any chats uh well I I'll wait to respond until she's uh we're in Madison go Madison is Madison yeah what are you doing back there Madison
02:51:57
Brian Atlasyou're eating what is that is that a taco okay uh cat wait hold on what did I have you had
02:52:08
Brian Atlassomething uh that you want you mentioned in the pre-show notes you do not like feminism is that true
02:52:22
Juan[Laughter] I think it's more complicated than that I think um feminism depending on kind of What wave and sort of the approach can kind
02:52:33
Juanof give a lot of um faulty ideas that are sort of deviating so far from who we are biologically and kind of how we are wired
02:52:43
Monicaum that it's sort of this unrealistic goal that we should be trying to strive for that I don't think really makes anyone happy sure yeah I want to agree like feminism I feel for like a lot of
02:52:55
Monicawomen it gives them excuses like I'm doing this because I'm living in my feminine feminism I'm pro-feminist because I want to do X Y and Z I did
02:53:06
Monicathis because I'm a feminist like you can't tell me I'm doing it wrong because I'm a feminist equal pay because I'm a feminist like all that it's it's I feel like it's more excuses I feel like it's
02:53:17
Juanmore trying to form women to I don't want to say like make bad choices but like try and defend their choices by using it well if it also has a lot over the times because initially
02:53:30
Juanit was like females name rights obviously we want the right to vote we want to be treated the same and then somehow it evolved into everything a man can do and can do just as well and it's like all right like you can you can
02:53:43
Juanthink I know you're not going downstairs and someone tries to rob your house I'm gonna be like babe go so yeah I think the initial intent was obviously good but it's evolved into something that was yeah you you said
02:53:54
Brian Atlasthat males and females are biologically different I agree with you obviously um you said modern day feminists seem to not like the idea uh that men and women are biologically different
02:54:07
Brian Atlasand you said there's a lot of data to back that up and you're you said you're a neurologist correct yeah and so is that kind of like within the purview of your field of study or I think so I think I read a book or two saying that
02:54:18
Brian Atlasxx and XY have a few differences and kind of what they can do so it checks out yeah yeah uh and wait just so your your medical doctor do you work in a hospital yeah
02:54:30
Brian Atlasokay and you're you you do neurology correct and kind of give us a little scope about what you know what that what that entails yeah in a hospital setting
02:54:42
Juansure yeah I do mostly outpatient somewhere in the clinic but some inpatient work as well so um my sub-specialty is movement disorders so that's mostly focused on people with tremors and Parkinson's but
02:54:55
Juanyou know it also entails um some somatization disorders where they're sort of functional and visible movements that aren't from a neurologic basis but more from a psychologic basis
02:55:06
Juanthings like anxiety and depression so we look at neurotransmitters a lot that's sort of part of Parkinson's as well where we're looking at the the dopamine reward systems which drive both human behavior in terms of healthy human
02:55:18
Isaac Butterfieldbehavior and you know negative human behavior like like addiction so yeah a little bit of everything sure just quickly on the topic of movement disorders I have paratismal dyskinesia oh yes do you know what that is
02:55:30
Isaac Butterfieldbasically what happens is I have I lose control of my eyes my eyes turn to here my neck turns and I go blind in one eye it's sort of like in the same family of as epilepsy which is a really easy way to describe it