33 First Dates In 3 MONTHS?! ft. Think Before You Sleep | Dating Talk #84

Date: 2023-07-17
Duration: 5h 12m

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00TTS Reader(audience)
SPEAKER_01Byronique(guest)
SPEAKER_02Veronica(guest)
SPEAKER_03Sean (Think Before You Sleep)(guest)
SPEAKER_04Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_05Josie(guest)
SPEAKER_06Jasmine Jafar(guest)
SPEAKER_07Brittany Venti(guest)
SPEAKER_08Madison(guest)
SPEAKER_09Sophia(guest)
SPEAKER_10Anna(guest)
SPEAKER_11Lana(guest)

Key Moments

00:02:19
IntroGuest introductions — Brittany Venti through Madison in seating order

"hi I'm Brittany venti I'm a YouTuber... I'm Sean I run a YouTube channel called think before you sleep... my name's Anna... I'm Lana I'm 39... my name is Jasmine Jafar I am 28 and I am an only fans Creator as well as a licensed attorney... 33 for about two more months I am a stand-up comedian I am a social media content creator... I'm Josie I'm 27... my name is Veronica I'm 35 years old... my name is Madison I'm 18 years old"

00:10:43
QuoteLana introduces herself and reveals partner died; she is essentially widowed with a 5yo daughter

"hi I'm Lana I'm 39... I am an accountant I am also a mom and last but not least I do only fans... I'm currently single my longest relationship was seven years... not legally [married]... he passed away... last year"

00:17:05
RelationshipJosie reveals she is going through a divorce while in a new 2-year relationship

"I don't know if I'm divorced yet but uh divorce... was married longest relationship uh six seven years currently in a relationship yeah taken for two years"

01:01:01
QuoteBrian reads from Jasmine's pre-show form: she went on 33 first dates in ~2.5 months, all on Hinge

"so starting with Jasmine who uh is an attorney uh in your Instagram you describe yourself as a lawyer and hoe... you ended up going on 33 dates in around 2.5 months... just a point of clarification are these 33 dates all first dates with different guys? yes"

01:04:01
QuoteJasmine reveals she slept with only 1 of 33 dates and has a total body count of 7

"of the 33 guys how many did you hook up with... just one... I've only slept with seven people"

01:16:32
QuoteSophia arrives late (from Bakersfield) and her first words introduce her relationship reconciliation

"okay well welcome by the way my boyfriend and I we did have sex and we've been in a in a relationship for a year now"

01:44:06
QuoteJasmine reveals she makes the guy she likes wait 2-6 months for sex but slept with BG content partner same day

"two to six months... I like making them wait... I like making them control themselves... the guy I do BG content with now we hooked up the same day we met but that was an anomaly for sure"

01:44:06
Key MomentBrian challenges Jasmine on her different sexual standards for different men — waiting vs. fast hookup

"the guy who you are now currently [sleeping with] who you do porn with... you slept with him like the first time you met... however the guy who you [want a relationship from] you make them wait for sex"

03:07:33
QuoteLana self-rates approximately 9 for being almost 40 with a kid

"looks wise I'd say for being almost 40 and being a mom I'm probably like a nine"

03:42:09
QuoteByronique tells story of friend's baby daddy who quit firefighter school to avoid child support

"she got pregnant by the guy that guy didn't want the baby... when he found out she was pregnant... he stopped going to school to be a fireman because he knew they would be taking so much of that damn fireman check"

04:12:06
QuoteJasmine self-rates as 9.22735 (joke precise answer)

"I changed my answer 9.22735 beautiful okay let's move on"

04:42:57
QuoteAnna self-rates 4-5 based on self-perception (Goblin mode) but 7-8 based on male feedback

"I think I'm probably because I see myself in Goblin mode every day so I would say natural state I'm like a four or five but my personality I found is what people at least you know guys find attractive about me So based on my perception of myself four or five and based on guys like a seven"

04:50:23
QuoteSean deflects self-rating with "I'm a 10"

"uh I'm just gonna say I'm a 10"

05:08:57
QuoteBrian tells story of Japanese woman who said his anatomy was too large — "the furthest I've ever gone" — punchline

"I had a girl I dated who said that she saw me as a boyfriend but after having sex three days later she said that she changed her mind because my schlong was too big for her... this is in Japan FYI with a Japanese woman"

Topics Discussed

00:00:00
Introductions & Announcements

Brian introduces show. Co-host Kiki mentioned as shy. Guests introduce in order: Brittany Venti (YouTuber, 30, NY/Texas, in relationship with Sean), Sean/Think Before You Sleep (32, YouTuber, in relationship with Brittany), Anna (20s, AAA gaming freelancer/cosplayer, engaged), Lana (39, accountant/OnlyFans, single mom, partner died), Jasmine Jafar (28, OnlyFans/attorney), Byronique (33, comedian/content creator, Compton, single), Josie (27, cyclist/content creator/cyber security, Montreal, in relationship/divorcing), Veronica (35, OT student/model, single), Madison (18, SBCC student/Whatever co-host). Sophia expected but late — show proceeds without her.

00:15:55
Relationship Status Round

Brittany & Sean: in relationship ~1 year, met via Patreon/online. Anna: engaged (1 month engagement, 7-year relationship; July 3 anniversary). Lana: single (partner of ~7 years died last year; 5yo daughter). Jasmine: FWB situation (BG content partner). Byronique: single, just met a French/Mexican man. Josie: in 2-year relationship, going through divorce (husband initiated, mediation). Veronica: single (recently ghosted, relationships only last ~3 months due to clinginess). Madison: in relationship. Sophia allowed in via chat donation; sits in back without mic.

00:31:45
Only Fans Ethics — Ghostwriting DMs

Jasmine raises whether it's ethical to have someone else manage your OnlyFans DMs and pretend to be you. Brittany argues it's not ethical — parasocial deception. Jasmine says she does all her own DMs for ethical reasons and limits purchases. Josie reveals she works as an OF DM ghostwriter (and Tinder/dating app opener writer for men). Discussion of men who spend kids' college funds on OF, manipulation dynamics on both sides, and whether OF facilitates relationship infidelity.

00:39:45
Romance vs. Transactionalism in Modern Dating

Brittany argues men vs. women war has sucked romance out of relationships. Brian asks her to define romance. She describes it as genuine mutual interest and commitment, not just romantic gestures. Discussion of how dating has become transactional (money, resources, body counts as metrics). Panel discusses how unclear relationship labels have proliferated; Brittany argues clearer commitment structures (boyfriend/girlfriend, marriage) reduce the need for OF-type parasocial relationships.

01:01:01
Jasmine's 33 First Dates in 2.5 Months

Main episode topic: Jasmine Jafar went on 33 first dates in approximately 2.5 months, all via Hinge, during law school bar exam prep period. Kept a phone list. 4 of 33 became repeat dates (saw them more than once). Slept with only 1 of the 33 (the one she does BG content with). Once had 2 dates in a single day. Brian argues top 1% of men could do this; top 50% of women could. Discussion of whether this indicates abundance or desperation on men's part. Panel debates whether 33 dates is impressive or exhausting. Josie notes social anxiety would prevent her from doing the same.

01:09:02
First Date / Early Sex and Relationship Outcomes

Brian asks panel about relationships where sex happened early (first 1-3 dates). Sophia shares she had sex with current boyfriend ~a month after meeting (friends first). Veronica: hooked up around 2 weeks / 3rd meetup. Josie: alcohol involved. Jasmine: usual wait is 2-6 months; one exception was BG content partner (same day, anomaly). Brittany: anti-hookup culture; argues early sex is promiscuous behavior by definition. Brian: disputes that early sex equals promiscuity if low partner count. Sean: pattern behavior is key indicator. Discussion of whether "first night sex" is necessarily a bad sign for relationship quality.

01:10:55
Who Has It Harder in Dating — Men vs Women

Brian argues top 50% of women could secure 33 dates in 3 months; top 1% of men could. Jasmine's 33-date experiment cited as evidence of asymmetric dating market access. Discussion of whether quality relationships are harder for women (emotional availability, commitment-seeking) while quantity (dates, sex) is easier. Brittany argues it's hard for both in different ways. Sean notes that women complaining about dating apps often means they reject a lot of men; men complain about no matches.

01:12:00
Dating App Debate — Pros and Cons

Anna credits dating apps with boosting her confidence during college. Josie argues men should delete apps and meet people in real life through hobbies. Brittany agrees apps are less effective but useful for connection. Discussion of how apps have reduced men's in-person approach confidence. Jasmine notes social skills are worse without apps. Sean argues that heavy app users likely have other social deficits. Brian and panel discuss stigma shift: meeting online was weird 10-20 years ago, approaching in person is increasingly frowned upon now.

01:37:33
Baby Mama / Baby Daddy Terminology Debate

Discussion of whether "baby mama" and "baby daddy" are derogatory or neutral. Josie argues the terms imply the parents aren't together. Brittany argues they signal lower commitment level. Jasmine (as attorney) says the terms are never used in legal contexts when parents are married. Lana defends her own situation — was committed with child but never legally married, did not consider herself a baby mama because they were planning to marry. Byronique offers hood perspective: terms are used differently in that context and are sometimes neutral. Sean gives analytical framework: level of commitment matters more than label.

03:13:00
Dating Culture — Racial & Regional Differences

Byronique brings perspective from Compton/South Central LA on how dating, baby mama dynamics, and relationships differ in the hood. Josie discusses Quebec independence and Canadian vs. Quebec identity. Brian asks about dating meta in South Central. Byronique tells story of friend whose baby daddy dropped out of firefighter school to avoid child support payments. Discussion of how hood street-smart approaches differ from mainstream dating discourse.

03:15:00
Single Mothers and Dating

Brian explains he tried dating a single mother once — she canceled 10 minutes before they were to meet. Confirmed he would not pursue single mothers. Argues single mothers expect provision without corresponding parental authority for the new partner. Lana pushes back: she is financially independent and would not expect a new partner to provide for her daughter. Brian grants her situation is different; many single moms do expect immediate provision. Byronique says she doesn't date men from the hood anymore. Discussion of men who give up career goals to avoid child support obligations.

04:12:00
Self-Rating Round

Chat/TTS donations prompted self-rating round (looks on 1-10 scale and overall value). Jasmine: "9.22735" (precise/joke answer after initially deflecting). Lana: ~9 ("for being almost 40 and being a mom"). Anna: 4-5 (self-perception Goblin mode) / 7-8 (based on male feedback). Sean: "I'm a 10" (deflecting/troll). Byronique: "10" (everyone should love themselves). Others largely deflected or gave non-committal answers. Brian notes it's "not quantifiable" and moves on.

04:56:42
Approach / Pickup Roleplay

Panel does in-person approach roleplay exercise. Scenarios: street, elevator, Starbucks line. Madison (18, SBCC) plays the male approaching. Sophia plays the approachee. Sophia demonstrates how she would approach a man. Brittany demonstrates her approach (brief and direct). Panel discussion: men overcomplicate approaches; a simple compliment and asking for a number is sufficient. Brian notes men are afraid of rejection.

Transcript

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03:54:06
Brian Atlaseven if um yeah despite uh but okay look I I get what you're trying to do because something that we often do on the show is we kind of have conversations with women and like oftentimes we'll be like
03:54:18
Brian Atlaswell that's kind of delusional that you want that for example a woman who might want a certain tear of man when it comes to uh you know or even their own self-assessment of their own physical attractiveness or um
03:54:31
Brian Atlasa woman who wants a guy who's six feet tall and makes six figures that's a very very small proportion of men I sort of get what you're trying to do you're basically trying to set me up so that oh look the tables are turned Brian
03:54:42
Brian Atlasactually is kind of delusional in terms of what he wants no I don't think they're delusional but um I I do the thing is is that it may very well be the case that there are a majority and I
03:54:53
Brian Atlasmean I think this Echoes what I say that if you look around we're talking about hookup culture a lot of people are both well I'd say more so women but that's another conversation are promiscuous so
03:55:05
Brian Atlasuh am I is it a smaller proportion of women that are not promiscuous that I desire as partners I suppose but I'm Advocate hold on but I'm advocating for a return
03:55:18
Brittany Ventito some degree to uh moving away from the madness that is hook up culture yeah I don't I don't disagree with your standards I think people are allowed to have their job
03:55:31
Brian Atlasyou're trying to do a God show where it's like okay Brian you're actually the delusional one here I don't think that P people should just settle right because that's not fair
03:55:44
Brittany Ventienough like just simply by saying I don't want a guy that watches porn that consumes any type of porn I know that's going to make it smaller of a dating group but I accept the risk and that
03:55:54
Josieit's worth it because to me it's that important okay it's important you like you have istanders it's good to have istanders I agree with high standards I think you have something like good going for yourself it's like I don't know I
03:56:07
Brian Atlasfeel like you describe yourself as like you don't do you see yourself as a high value man or a like I mean I don't like that word you know what I mean yeah I I I don't like those characterizations because I think there's there's
03:56:19
Josiedifferent I'm just trying to portray it in a way that conveys the you know the message we all get the message but you know what I mean like that yeah so I don't I don't
03:56:30
Josielike just a across the board word like that I don't like this idea how did you consider yourself a good
03:56:40
Brian Atlascandidate or somebody that has like um I think in some Realms of of Endeavors I am and in others I'm not
03:56:48
Brian AtlasI think in some realms for example I think uh when it comes to my success uh finances I think
03:56:57
Brian AtlasI'm doing fairly well when I could be for example I I could be in a little better physical shape
03:57:07
Brian Atlasum I think I have my head on screwed on fairly well uh I don't drink I don't smoke I don't do drugs I don't go to bars I don't go to clubs I don't party
03:57:16
Brian Atlasso in certain areas yes uh I think it's hard to say um so I don't know uh well I would just
03:57:29
Josielike you have like something good going for you right now like that your show is doing really good and honestly it's better to I know that like there's some people in the chat that said it's like better and being like in the desert and
03:57:41
Josiehaving a nagging wife I just stay better being alone in a Bad Company Proverbs 21 19 by the way that one yep well better being alone and then Bad Company so it's like yeah look at this [ __ ] psycho
03:57:53
Brian Atlaswhat are you doing I hate the taste of water you you're no no it's not even about you like you poured like a what did you point oh yeah you haven't had that bro but you're bro you're stirring it with your finger yeah
03:58:07
Annabro that no it's just like let her have a straw bro he took my straw away did you wash your hands before yes I just room okay I'm just kind of a German
03:58:19
Sean (Think Before You Sleep)because I'm like on your behalf on your behalf you took my straw I asked for it and you took it yes band and I told you I wasn't gonna see this is an authoritarian we're just looking for the gotcha Twitter clip by
03:58:31
Brittany Ventitaking her strong away yeah exactly how dare you you took my straw I said I needed it but yeah my point is if you view yourself that way where you're like I'm not sure if I'm like really high value then it might be hard to get someone that's also considered high
03:58:43
Brian Atlasvalue because like all the filters right because generally people will consider that high value woman well I mean I I don't like it as a blanket term because I I think in some as I said in some Realms of endeavor I if you I don't like
03:58:55
Brian Atlasyou know like in the same way with this like Alpha Beta [ __ ] I don't like those terms high value low value it's kind of like it's like okay well there's men who are like when it comes to success money doing
03:59:08
Brian Atlasgood on that front but there's men who are like billionaires you know so you know in terms of percentiles I'm doing well um but I don't think that is that is the
03:59:20
Brian Atlasuh as an entire package that makes you high value for example I'd like to have a when it comes to my physical fitness and I mean some of this is out of my control
03:59:31
Brian Atlasfor example I have a pretty I've had a pretty catastrophic back injury um so you know I'm not I I was in better physical fitness when I was younger so I think when it comes
03:59:43
Brian Atlasto my physical fitness and I think men have a duty to be physically strong I in that Dimension I consider myself to be lacking and I think in order to be like total package is a high value man even
03:59:56
Brian Atlasthough I don't like that term you need to have a certain degree of command over your body in a certain level of physical strength which had I
04:00:06
Brian Atlasnot had for uh I uh had if I had I not had a back injury I'd be much uh more of a I'd be physically stronger than I am currently So within that
04:00:18
Brian Atlasspecific realm I'm I'm consider myself to be lacking can you still open a jar I mean I did request no I I yeah I remember me being the one yeah you were
04:00:29
Josieyou were helping me out with it with Mike but um can you change a tire d I mean honestly if you have enough money to pay somebody to do it for you no money is no no woman's gonna give a crap
04:00:40
Annalike sorry but yeah but it's like hot if a guy could like it's like a bonus Point sure he can sure I'll give it to you well okay so let's say you're in a tight situation
04:00:51
TTS Readerit's only you too hold on Taylor underscore London's core is underscore artist is donated 99 autistic girl is fixated on this because as if she's lived such a life of
04:01:03
TTS Readerprivilege that she cannot psychologically process that men can have standards by not being fattened having an acceptable face and body she speaks from a high ground of entitlement wait who's the artistic he's talking
04:01:16
Annaabout Brittany you don't know anything about Brittany if you think she's had a privileged life Brittany is an orphan that's been on her own since she was what 15 16 years old 16. yeah
04:01:27
Brian Atlasultimately I don't think it's asking that much for I think the three things were a woman who is dates one person at a time
04:01:36
Brian Atlaswho isn't promiscuous and who has minimal social media presence I don't think that's really asking a whole lot
04:01:46
Brian Atlasit's not I don't think it shouldn't be unfortunately nowadays it is right but you're trying to make it out like I'm I'm looking for like a one percent woman which I don't I don't think is the case and even if you were to be fine
04:01:59
Jasmine Jafarit is and it's unfortunate it's in the reverse too of like asking for basic things that it gets treated the same way maybe in YouTube but I don't think it's a very low percentage of women in general in our in
04:02:12
Brian Atlasthis world Maybe I mean especially in California he wants someone presumably local right I'll just say I'll just say maybe I've gone lucky but of the things that I want in a
04:02:23
Brian Atlaspartner I've been able to find them in in I've had numerous long-term relationships I've been able to find them think if somebody wants something bad enough they can get it
04:02:35
Brittany Ventispeak it into existence but I feel like that's not sad if it's the other way around though if a girl were like you know as he said earlier I want a six foot guy or like a tall guy like let's say you're like the heights
04:02:48
Josiethe height standards that women is absolute BS it's like if you've done martial art like honestly short guys shortly guys in the chat if you're short
04:02:58
Josiemartial art any like karate kickboxing Jiu Jitsu like you're you're good you're good you you do that
04:03:08
Josiebecause women that do that as well they know that short Kings can kick ass so yeah that's true word yeah but you shouldn't settle for
04:03:19
TTS Readersomeone that doesn't want to do martial art is hot like I'm sorry like oh wait we had okay Mr meatball here hold on we gotta get back to him around meatball donated 100 thank you man I want to
04:03:31
TTS Readerscale from one to ten what do the people on the panel consider themselves on overall value okay so we have let me pull this up hold up also Stifler here ask everyone to
04:03:44
Brian Atlaswrite their looks on a scale of one to two is it always Stiffler we are going to start um I think there's two different ones oh
04:03:54
Brian Atlasokay yeah because it says oh okay because overall value here we'll do looks and then overall value so you'll just do two uh let's start with Sophia
04:04:07
Sophiaum on luxwise I don't want to rate myself but overall value I mean six maybe I don't know I'm a human being so not perfect
04:04:19
Sophiadid you do whippets today I'm not on drugs I don't smoke weed so okay she's not saying that I don't need Narcan
04:04:31
Josiewe need this else's dinner to drink you had last time what about you um for looks looks and then overall um
04:04:44
Josieseven for value part portion okay what about you I'll just say one [ __ ] off [ __ ] that
04:04:55
Josiequestion honestly I have that I I have them I'm working on an AI thing that you can look at yourself in it and it tells you what you are on a scale of one to ten and I looked at myself in it when I
04:05:06
Josiewoke up at like I did I didn't think I looked good I was like oh my God I'm at one but and it said I was like a seven point five I was like oh okay I'm like AI is cool okay okay I like AI it says
04:05:16
Josieon the 7.5 out of bed so you know yeah maybe I can sell it to you so like when you ask the girls don't have to like you know they can just look at themselves and the AI is going to tell
04:05:29
Annathem what they are that'd be funny if you had like a segment where it's they rate themselves and then it shows you I have what it says that'd be so funny but you know like that actually well when the girls write themselves like I'm a 10
04:05:41
Josieout of 10 and then the right thing is like and you know what's funny the people like the girls like when they smile anyone who Smiles the uh AI actually writes them higher
04:05:53
Byroniquewhen you have a smile on your face I thought that was interesting makes sense it's like it has a soul yo byronique what's up straight up like up like that no chaser and
04:06:08
Byroniqueand not so much we not even gonna [ __ ] with that but um and then personality wise if people will really get to know me take the time to get to know me and not look at the color of my skin I think I will be a 10 all around with
04:06:20
Byroniquepersonality for sure in my heart you know what I mean but people don't look at that they see a black [ __ ] from the hood so it's just disgusting so it's hard to deal with I think you're a queen
04:06:30
Jasmine Jafaryeah I think you're awesome one overall value 0.347 is that like a genuine answer or
04:06:41
Jasmine Jafaroverall value on a numeric numerical well you said one for looks yeah you think you're a one yeah is that but is that like a troll answer is that like I don't look at people
04:06:54
Jasmine Jafarlike are they an eight or a nine like I'm not 12 like I just that's like a Whimsical and arbitrary thing it's like it's silly in my opinion I just I could say that person is overall attractive I find myself conventionally attractive
04:07:06
Jasmine Jafaryes but I don't I'm not like oh so then you're not a one then number one I'm beyond the scale these are some deep analysis I'm supposed to be doing here it's just I think it's a juvenile question so yes I gave it juvenile it's
04:07:18
Jasmine Jafarlike back in middle school why is it a juvenile question because rating people like like I said I don't look at people like are you an eight or nine especially on overall value would you date a guy who's shorter than you I'm five feet so
04:07:29
Jasmine Jafarno you did what you did about the short venue yeah if there's like no guys that are shorter than this let's say there was though what you did a guy who shorted them no but I would date a guy who's like five seven well so
04:07:39
Jasmine JafarI mean probably even like five five yeah okay yeah but you wouldn't tell a guy who's shorter than you there are men who are 411. no I wouldn't date a guy sure why is that because I think that's too
04:07:51
Jasmine Jafarshort for even I don't even like but isn't isn't height quite literally a numerical measurement but if someone's I don't have someone's six two and someone's five eleven I'm not like oh but he has a man bun so there's a man
04:08:03
Brian Atlasbun worth 0.2 percent more than like but you wouldn't date a guy who's shorter than you I wouldn't but wait I don't get how this is related well yes so because I wouldn't date a guy that's shorter
04:08:13
Brian Atlasthan you move a Nile to rate someone's face but it's not juvenile to rate someone's physical height no which is a numerical measurement I think it's also it's not numerical it's not numerical you say I wouldn't say someone's shorter
04:08:27
Jasmine Jafarbut I would date someone taller how is that numerical well it's quite literally they're the height is physical yeah well height is numerical but me rating them I'm just saying you
04:08:38
Jasmine Jafarare rating their height it's a threshold I'm saying if you're below me no if you're above me yes I'm not like but if you're extra above me then that's two points higher they're both related to physical attractiveness are they not no
04:08:50
Brian AtlasI I don't rate guys Heights on a scale of one to ten I just say is it okay or is it not okay but they're both within the Physical Realm and height is a it's a numerical measurement yes weight is also a numerical measurement
04:09:03
Jasmine Jafarsure but I wouldn't date somebody's first of all value on a on a scale and I wouldn't do someone's looks on a numerical scale I'm attracted to or I'm not attracted to you I'm not like oh he's a knight it's like a binary
04:09:13
Jasmine Jafarthing yeah for height yeah it is binary so if you're shorter than me no if you're taller than me yes or I could even have a if you're five five yeah yeah five five yes you wouldn't so you wouldn't have a preference for a guy
04:09:25
Jasmine Jafarwho's 5 10 versus a guy who's five one no preference whatsoever well preference is different because like it could be number 25 on my list of preferences you said this earlier too if there is just a preference like you may prefer a girl
04:09:38
Jasmine Jafarthat has a private Instagram versus one who doesn't but it doesn't really matter it's not like something you're really looking at unless you're like two people are exactly the same then yes
04:09:48
JosieI also like sorry um man brain is not wired the same as a female brain women we overthink this
04:09:59
Josiequestion way too much and every time every episode there is this response to the question that comes
04:10:10
Josieback okay like guys just kind of think on like a logical like straight it's not that deep now I think I'm being more logical here yeah no no I think that
04:10:19
Jasmine Jafaryou've been crying women we are wired to overthink things like it's deeper than that but for guys it's like okay it's really not that deep like people have a threshold but once you go into numerical oh you're an eight and a half he's a
04:10:31
Jasmine Jafarnine I I just don't I don't know if you guys walk around doing that no I don't know it'd be really autistic to do that yeah it'd be like you'd be like insane I think you're like juvenile it's like a gotcha moment if a girl says she's a 10
04:10:43
Annathen chat's gonna be like oh she delusional you know that's why you should do the AI test they say they're just gonna give a stupid answer it's so funny you really should do that but for them
04:10:56
Brian Atlasyou two don't want to answer the you two don't want to answer the question because you consider yourselves to be ten is that correct no me I mean would you consider yourself a 10. I mean no nobody considers themselves a 10 here
04:11:07
Byroniquebut then when they when you as a woman when you say that about yourself like people always like friends hit me up like oh why would that [ __ ] say she's only a five that's like disrespecting yourself so if you don't say you attend
04:11:19
Byroniquethen you're kind of lowballing yourself like that's how a lot of people view it like so everybody in the world should be confident enough to think that they're a 10. I love that [ __ ] that you have on here that is actually a trans um with
04:11:32
Byroniquethe little pink and she's yeah she's a certified bad [ __ ] she is the most confident [ __ ] I have ever met in my life she sits at this table and she owns this [ __ ] and she don't care how many people talk [ __ ] about her in this [ __ ] stupid chat she don't give a
04:11:44
Byronique[ __ ] how many people give her sign eyes at this [ __ ] table she holds her [ __ ] she lets her titties hang out and her big shape and she's just proud of herself and I love that because
04:11:54
TTS Readereverybody and I guarantee she would not say she's not oh donated 99 dollars speaking of filters woman
04:12:04
TTS Readerwear makeup every day and use social media filters are all liars I've said my peace that's another thing
04:12:13
JosieI can correct what she did um you know how Kiko went off at Chase and that she pretty much like turned around the chest and said yeah I think if you suck dick that's pretty gay like if she didn't
04:12:25
Byroniquecare look at her and she's just like saying yeah sorry Kiko like he's right like that's pretty gay I I love her energy though she's she's a whole [ __ ] Vibe and she's confident she's the definition of being confident and believing in
04:12:38
Jasmine Jafaryourself everybody should be sitting up in this world that confident about themselves and we will have a much better [ __ ] world in here do you find yourself conventionally attractive how important attractiveness
04:12:51
Jasmine Jafarto you do others find you attractive in your opinion but to be like one to ten what are you like I've never thought that way in my life so you don't think some people are more attractive than others yes I do and I think there's a objective component to beauty and also the subjective components so once you
04:13:04
Jasmine Jafarget to numerical I mean they've done studies where people from different countries are attracted to different bmis different what ways to hip ratios all of that so it's not objective this person's an eight because they think of their name sure there might be some
04:13:17
Jasmine Jafarvariance but I think overall that's why the variance means that the one to ten is just a bizarre way to rape it's juvenile you're like 12 to me if you're sitting there like she's an age like but everybody have confidence in themselves
04:13:29
Byroniquewhether they look like Beetlejuice or they look like Beyonce they everybody should have [ __ ] confidence in themselves whatever their shape their body type if you got a bad back you got a bad hip bad knees you can't drop it low it don't matter you should be
04:13:41
Byroniqueconfident in yourself and love yourself because the world ain't going to show you no [ __ ] ease you feel me so you gotta love on yourself and be confident everybody should be sitting here really in reality saying that they are a 10 and
04:13:52
JosieBeyond you know what I mean because you should love yourself enough to say that well I mean look feminists say that's what I don't want to say that because then it's like screaming that I'm a woke feminist and then the overall value man
04:14:04
Jasmine Jafaris very strange we're reading people's value like as human beings like what does he means we all make value judgments yes so if you're asking me if I think I'm a valuable person yes and I
04:14:16
Brian Atlasthink we all are some Maybe it's not about your value as a human being but like on The Dating Marketplace in the sexual Marketplace you you are making judgment calls and value calls
04:14:28
Lanaabout potential Partners yeah that's true overall value is your overall so if I find you a chance in the dating Marketplace so overall value in the dating Marketplace oh sure
04:14:40
Brian AtlasI agree to understand what makes you valuable in the dating Marketplace could be a variety of factors obviously it's different whether you're a woman whether you're a man because men and women are attracted to different things
04:14:52
Brian Atlasdifferent qualities physical appearance Personality yeah I don't know that just by looking at your picture though on some [ __ ] day okay he's saying okay there were two questions there was Stifler asking rate your looks
04:15:06
Brian Atlasclear your looks on a scale of one to ten and there was the TTS where it was I I forgot was a TTS or stream Labs donation asking for overall fine I changed my answer 9.22735 beautiful okay let's move on what about
04:15:20
Brian Atlasyou okay so overall value in the dating Market um or just one one to ten your looks and then your overall value okay well I
04:15:30
Brian Atlasthink that's okay let me let me put it to you like this so one to ten your looks and then if you can incorporate for example your personality like
04:15:41
Brian Atlasoverall as a catch where do you put yourself on the one to ten scale that's what he I think he's getting at by overall okay so if you could incorporate personality
04:15:52
Lanaokay well personality wise like I'm I'm in town okay yeah I'm a loyal friend I'm
04:16:04
Lanawhatever all the things that I am sure people don't need to know but whatever and then looks wise I'd say for being almost 40 and being a mom
04:16:14
JosieI'm probably like a nine I took some MILF okay I think it's kind of funny because like all my friends like when you know early 20s and I remember like almost my
04:16:26
Josiefriends or guys but they were all like dating like older women like their friends moms and stuff and it was not like just one it was like most of them so it's just like what yeah like younger
04:16:39
Josieguys that go for younger women I don't know maybe they're just like yeah yeah yeah like younger guys that go for older yeah yeah that happens it's a thing yeah I've seen it Star Wars girl what about you
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Annaso I think there's a difference between how I perceive myself and how other people I think I'm probably because I see myself in Goblin mode every day so I would say natural state I'm like a four
04:17:04
Annaor five but my personality I found is what people at least you know guys find attractive about me So based on my perception of myself four or five and based on guys like a seven
04:17:16
Brian Atlasor eighty can you stop doing cocaine back there please
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Sean (Think Before You Sleep)oh was it sorry heroin my bad um okay what about you um I don't think it's like a correct answer this one either it's like you're you're
04:17:34
Sean (Think Before You Sleep)like the the chick who thinks she's like the 12 or the guy who thinks he's the 12 or like you're self-deprecating saying you're a four uh I'm just gonna say I'm a 10. all right yeah thousand
04:17:50
Brian Atlasit's not quantifiable okay all right we're just getting troll answers at this point okay um let's move on thank you for that uh TTS Super Chat
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Brian Atlasman uh let's see Curtis Reynolds you already read this one did we you sure she's right I shouldn't have compared it to gender since
04:18:11
Brian Atlasuh uh what is it since there are clearly more flavors of feminism than the two actual genders okay what's up I got 10 minutes because it's
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04:20:10
Brian Atlasthank you everybody for all your Pinter ninja ladies how drastically do you think the modern woman's day-to-day life would be changed if social media didn't exist
04:20:20
Jasmine Jafarit would be amazing I'd be a lawyer meeting my billable hours instead of making all this money because I'm a lawyer because she's a lawyer guys in case you
04:20:31
Lanashe's a lawyer yeah an attorney yeah for that one reason yeah no but neither of us you use social media
04:20:43
Sean (Think Before You Sleep)this is like a hit because I think everybody's social skills would be better without social media benefit to it but there's also a massive negative to it I mean but we none of us would have met if it wasn't for social
04:20:55
Jasmine Jafarmedia that's true but there would be less girls getting kidnapped by creeps I think actually that was happening more before yeah people are out more yeah and like
04:21:07
Jasmine Jafarit was harder to catch them so like serial killers for instance it's really hard to be a successful serial killer now yeah I think we're thankful for all of the great things social media gave us like being able to
04:21:19
Sophiabe here tonight and like be on a stream and everything um but with that said I think overall if we got rid of social media it would change for the better yeah I agree I don't know I don't think so but then you
04:21:31
Sophiamissed out on the first speech benefits I know but we lived before without crime was out I know but I've never had it to take that away it'd be a dystopian future it's not going if we took away social
04:21:44
Brittany Ventimedia yeah we wouldn't be able to communicate with each other or the internet like when people are trying to censor us or when the Free Press we can organize better now we could focus on other things also like we see what's happening all
04:21:56
Sophiaover the world a little bit better I mean that's why people think a lot of stuff that happens now like you know like a student beating a teacher is like you know a gen Z thing when it's always happened but now we hear about it more I
04:22:08
Josielike how social media gives normal people a voice basically that not everything is on either Fox News or CNN and that we can just have those alternative platforms and you know
04:22:21
Josiesomebody can have like a camera or an iPhone basically and just broadcast something then you get a higher and higher budget but pretty much the little guy can make it and you have so many
04:22:33
Josiethings that you can listen to now so it's pretty much everything is so like on demand you know like we didn't have and you know Tim the temple with Tim Cass or Dan bongino Matt wall Sheldon
04:22:45
Brittany Ventidaily wire like that's all like there there's none of that on but we also didn't have girls eating emojis like popcorn on Tick Tock either so yeah it's like a six second video like scroll you
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Annaknow well here's something that came up during uh like the coof so all the kids had to do like the virtual school right so a lot of parents found out what they were doing to their kids in school so like my stepdaughter we saw her virtual
04:23:10
Annaschool so we were seeing the stuff that parents didn't get to see so you know all of the hey if you want if you feel like this today then let's just put you on drugs and stuff like that we have a
04:23:21
Brian Atlaschat here drug shortage now too parents all right we've got Pat here 12. the purpose of helmet girl is to set the standard for the panel she has an overall 10 values are more than looks
04:23:33
Brian Atlasand money she definitely has the looks if she moderated her on podcast the chat would make it rain if she moderated her own podcast the chat would make it rain I think she yeah
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Brian Atlastogether stick around for the after show for about 10 minutes she's high value where Madison will be running the after show okay and then uh let's see voice crack nice
04:23:57
Brian Atlasum what else do we have okay we're caught up on chats uh I think I had one other thing Sophia yes so do you believe in the patriarchy yeah
04:24:12
SophiaI like how it's talked about like it's a mythical creature like do you believe in the Unicorn do you think women are oppressed I mean I think in both ways we are both
04:24:22
Sophiaoppressed you know the patriarchy causes more disadvantage than it does for advantages for men I feel like think before you sleep has some thoughts on this topic huh
04:24:35
Brian Atlastrying to I'm trying to rope you in here a little bit oh um what well you're I mean I I don't want to put words in your mouth but I would consider you at least from the videos I've seen so would you consider yourself
04:24:47
Sean (Think Before You Sleep)an anti-feminist it depends on which what's so I would have said yes a year ago but there's a there's like oh there's there's back to the plantation there's Camille polio feminism and there's
04:24:59
Sean (Think Before You Sleep)there's all the woke [ __ ] I'm against all the woke [ __ ] but like if women are saying like um stuff like again like the anti-porn stuff I agree with on the radfan part um
04:25:12
TTS Readerthe Free Speech stuff I agree with and that's certainly not the woke [ __ ] has underscore and underscore means underscore you underscore wind donated 99
04:25:23
TTS Readerthe patriarchy is a hoax perpetrated by generations of women to control men plus all resources within a society to get them to do the vast majority of work
04:25:33
TTS Readerfrom hard labor to Innovation and then to extract those resources from those men W minute efforts yeah
04:25:45
SophiaI mean I don't believe in the Patriots that's what you're asking okay yeah now what what do you say that that's just a dividing conquer strategy Sophia I mean I understand that there's
04:25:56
Sophiaa lot of division I mean on social media and with like feminism even you know and one thing I'd want to say about like how you said you kind of changed your answer because one thing with feminism is we all kind of get grouped into one with
04:26:09
Sophialike this whole like I don't know like Tick Tock liberal feminism like we want to show our nipples like you know stuff but um I think it's funny because a lot of people said that my anti-porn thing
04:26:19
Sophiais very conservative but it's also a rad Femme it is it is so um so radical feminist just saying well I think there's two feminist positions on it there's like hey you should do whatever
04:26:32
Brian Atlasyou want you're allowed to engage in sex work and then the other side of the coin is sex work is exploitative and bad so it leads a lot of trafficking or like yes there's plenty of companies that
04:26:43
Brian Atlaspeople watch who have trapped women but could it be could it be the case that feminists all get grouped up together we do but isn't that justified
04:26:55
Brian Atlaswhy would that be just well okay for example um and you often hear talk of and we will wrap up here in about five ten minutes you often hear talk of like systematic oppression
04:27:08
Brian Atlasyeah right yeah that's communist [ __ ] yeah and so couldn't you argue that one of the biggest systems in this country and in other countries is the uh
04:27:18
Brian Atlashigher education so you look at universities for example almost every single University in this country has a women's studies program a gender studies program a feminist studies program what
04:27:30
Brian Atlasdo all of these teach across the board doesn't matter what state you're in doesn't matter if it's a private college a public College they all teach patriarchy theory in these feminist
04:27:41
Brian Atlasclasses patriarchy theory is the Bedrock of feminism it is the core tenet of feminism so is it any surprise that all feminists
04:27:54
Brian Atlasget grouped together when the main the mainstream feminist view is that there's this patriarchy no they completely hold on let Sophia answer this um I mean I understand what you mean by that but I
04:28:07
Sophiajust there's a whole bunch of different from all types of feminists you know so that's one thing is I understand what you mean like we all believe in the patriarchy but I mean well what is the
04:28:17
Sophiapatriarchy I'm well I already answered this one like three different times did you yeah oh I must be bad but
04:28:27
Sophiaum you just want to get a gotcha moment right clip this radical feminists doesn't know what the patriarchy is but um like I say I mean I don't believe that there's this like big bad
04:28:39
Sophiapatriarchy that's uplifting men so much I I believe it in a way that it's causing disadvantages for both of us I mean it's not just a one-sided thing and I think that's why a lot of people have these stances on the patriarchy because
04:28:51
Sophiathey think that woman hold no accountability and just want to blame the patriarchy which it's causing problems for both genders like I say people kind of do that in general though a lot of people who don't want to work
04:29:01
Sean (Think Before You Sleep)find some excuse to blame like people who are like five nine will say I'm not six foot therefore I can't get like okay but you're still taller than almost all women so that's what I'm sorry but in colleges right now I
04:29:14
Josienoticed because I came here first on an F1 Visa which is a student visa and when you know you had like those courses and I'm sorry they literally teach young women to hate
04:29:25
Josieman and then I heard that and I was sitting here me with a bunch of my guy friends and barely any women friends and I was like that's kind of [ __ ] yeah
04:29:36
Sean (Think Before You Sleep)yeah it is nice but they're they're kind of playing on human psychology to like if if things happen to you that are bad and you're not a person who takes responsibility you'll always fall for the psychology so they pretty much teach
04:29:47
Josieyou to cry like a little [ __ ] instead of you know I mean it goes both ways like with red pillars they do the same thing with women I'm sorry but a wooden red pillars like what I
04:29:59
Josiehear mostly on what people would call Red Pill podcastes yeah it's hard to be a man stop being a little [ __ ] and yeah life is hard no a lot of them are literally telling men to complain yeah
04:30:10
Josieit's just they tell men to complain oh yeah they say like oh I'm not tall enough oh I didn't I don't make this much money it's like what most which ones are you watching which ones are you referring to uh
04:30:22
Josieyeah seriously they say that yeah because I haven't heard that like that man they don't tell men to go whine like little [ __ ] I thought they would more stuff like little [ __ ] they might like
04:30:34
Sean (Think Before You Sleep)slide in some sort of like self-improvement thing but most of the time they're complaining about men aren't tall enough or women get too many dates or like yeah things may be the way they are I mean I know they had debates where it was like different people
04:30:46
Josiearguing that I don't know if it was like it was on fresh and Fit I don't know if it was like fresh and Fifth's opinion do you think that do you think that
04:30:55
Brian Atlasmen are not struggling in specifically unique ways to them when it comes to the dating landscape yeah but everybody can struggle in a new unique way it doesn't mean you should be a person
04:31:07
Brian AtlasI think I I think the difference is though is that I think men struggle more when it comes to dating than do women yeah and the solution is don't use dating apps yeah I
04:31:18
Sean (Think Before You Sleep)mean why are people still using this I think I think I mean so you're saying like just do cold approach in the street like just you know be be in a community be have friends I mean you either yeah back in the day as you go to church
04:31:31
Sean (Think Before You Sleep)every Sunday and you have a community of people or you go to some sort of sports event every Sunday or every whatever day or you have a friend who'd interested introduce you to a group of friends who then has a girl that you might like or a guy that you might like yeah get into
04:31:43
Josiesomething like social that you like you know like if it's like woodworking I don't know I mean there's like wood craft that has like real classes and stuff and there's actually plenty of women in that but people aren't finding
04:31:55
Lanaenough excuses to go out and socialize and that's why all these problems are happening yeah men are like completely relying on dating apps to find women they're not even trying like they'll stare at you at
04:32:06
Sean (Think Before You Sleep)the grocery store awkwardly but never actually come up and say hello or make conversations or even do basic conversational things like say oh uh like find an excuse to talk about some vegetable Chicks next to or something
04:32:18
Brian Atlaslike that right some sort of excuse to talk to her they usually compliment my shoes but my shoes are nice but this is I mean this is kind of putting the entire burden of initiation on men but
04:32:28
Lanamen were you know biologically wired to be I mean Hunters right and now they don't even do that one thing that they were wired to do do you want women to ask you out or do you want to be the one who asked the women out well I I actually think they're scared of
04:32:41
Brian Atlasrejection I like it if the chick Simpsons all the Sims for me I like if a girl watches I don't want your DMs just got flooded DM me I don't I think it's fine if a
04:32:53
Lanagirl DM's a guy but men complain and I wrote that to you men complain on the dating apps like my friend complained to me that every single guy that she talked to on the dating app was complaining how bad the dating app was yet doesn't try a
04:33:06
Sophiaperson who says oh but you're you're a beautiful woman I I don't want to approach you you have a better chance in person than you do on a dating app of course you're going to be more superficial when you're going through a date you have to I mean no no dating apps are just superficial I mean Tinder
04:33:19
Sophiayou just swipe on a photo you don't know it's so depressing to talk to them and dating apps they're not for dating if you're on a dating app it's for people who want to have sex I think
04:33:33
Sophiabut harder is just sex though I know I mean cases
04:33:41
Brittany Ventihere's the other side of the queen of what you said of like putting all the responsibility on men and how that's unfair the other side of that coin is if you take all the responsibility off the men that weakens them they're no longer masculine because they can't take response complain about how Society is
04:33:54
Sean (Think Before You Sleep)are you just gonna say here's what I can change I cannot use this dating app I could go learn how to socialize I'm gonna get what I want anyway
04:34:04
Brian Atlashonestly I think that like guys whining is such a turn off ah but earlier in the conversation we were talking about well men should be vulnerable um
04:34:34
Brian Atlasso men need to be these these emotionless people that just accept the extremely rude ways in which they can be rejected Ryan Brian Brian are you saying that I said that because I did not she
04:34:46
Brian Atlasyeah so there's just something I said they should be able to it's just like no big look I said no don't be a [ __ ] that's what I said look as a man you should you ought to strive to be a
04:34:57
Brian Atlasstrong individual and just let rejection roll off your back but like let's be honest it [ __ ] sucks to be rejected and so just dismissing men's frustrations when it comes to getting
04:35:08
Brian Atlasrejected especially like there are men who will get either brutally rejected or will just face rejection after rejection after rejection and it's a very privileged position to just say oh just
04:35:19
Brian Atlasyou know men just go back to accepting being rejected when when women almost never face that sort of rejection when it comes to romance women may get rejected Patrice O'Neill says this he
04:35:31
Brian Atlassays women don't really get rejected on the front end they get rejected on the back end would it be masculine if a guy sat there and cried about it what's that would it be masculine if a guy no I don't think you should I don't think you should cry
04:35:44
Sophiaabout it but do you think I should show that online nowadays also I want to say like what do you think men should do Brian you keep saying but um there's also a thing like emotional
04:35:56
Sophiaintelligence which is another thing I mean because men aren't told to be you know emotionless and it's like we're human beings we all have emotions yeah you know you want someone who's emotionally intelligent yeah so they
04:36:08
Brittany Ventiunderstand you knew earlier about that I think the difference is like there's a misunderstanding at the table about dignified traits and undignified traits right so someone opening up and being
04:36:20
Brittany Ventivulnerable a dignified version that would be like maybe you know the person and their mom just died and they like feel really sad very extreme case right versus undignified be like man these
04:36:30
Brittany Ventiwomen don't want me these hoes like they have two high standards to ask me to wash my ass which by the way read streets soap for that if you guys want soap I mean it's not that I think you guys are underestimating the average
04:36:42
Brian Atlasman's experience for example on a dating app I know some of you say well get off the dating apps the reality is though is that like 50 percent of people are meeting online they're meeting on data ships
04:36:55
Brittany Ventithere's nothing traditional about men anymore yeah we have to support there's something traditional about women anymore it goes both ways I thought men are supposed to lead women so when men get weaker is not essentially what's making the women
04:37:08
Brian Atlasweaker and follow suit to the precedent that they're setting like sleeping on the first time hold on just one thing it's a fair point to say that yes as men we ought to take
04:37:19
Brian Atlassome responsibility there's like the super Trad con line which is basically as men like we Bear full responsibility like as Leaders like the position we find ourselves in you can say oh it's fully men's fault however
04:37:32
Brian Atlasum I I think in order to be a leader you need to have people willing to follow and feminists feminism has taught women to not follow here's the thing though a
04:37:43
Brian Atlaslot of women desire those traits in men that are you know that you could consider leadership traits uh assertive decisive Etc leadership dominant whatever you want to say
04:37:55
Brian Atlaswomen want these traits in men but they don't want to follow they want the leader but they don't want to follow what do you mean like if you say okay if you hold on if you want a man to be a
04:38:06
Brian Atlasleader in a relationship you need as a woman you need to be prepared to follow but most women don't want to be followers okay you want to be approached in person though so how is that really
04:38:16
Jasmine Jafaryes I know like well if if men want to approach us in person because we're talking about being in person or being on a dating app I think a lot of women like when men approach this in person and if you're in that bottom 50 who can't do well on a dating app or
04:38:28
Jasmine Jafarwhatever then I think approaching a person gives you a better shot because we have to like lower our like we have to filter out a lot of men on dating apps that we wouldn't filter out in real life there used to be a lot of social stigma for a guy who had to ask a check
04:38:41
Sean (Think Before You Sleep)out online and now it's like everybody's doing it
04:38:49
Brian Atlaswell I mean there's me too there's you know you see these gym Tick Tock videos of guys who even glance in a girl's direction or don't even glance in girls
04:38:58
Brian Atlasdirections and they basically like try to destroy this guy's reputation honestly girls who do that should go to jail literally I'm sorry about as
04:39:10
Josiesomebody who's like a gym or no a gym rat I'm sorry if you are in a situation where you're struggling and you're like on the bench press or whatever and you're actually struggling if like you
04:39:22
Josiecan't just that it's like an Unwritten rule in a gym like you don't fake that kind of stuff because if you're actually in distress you know you need somebody to help you out you don't fake that
04:39:34
Josiebecause after that like if it actually happens and they all think well no she's just trying to like you know she's probably has like a hidden camera somewhere and like she just wants to ruin my life guys are not gonna go help
04:39:47
Josieyou out because they think you're trying to like ruin their life that seems like to go to that extent yeah like oh they have a secret camera on them for well and I'm pretty sure where do we draw the
04:39:59
Josieline I mean girls don't do [ __ ] like that seriously people don't do that well Sean made a great video on that the gym thing pretty much
04:40:09
Josieokay it's not that deep like just don't pretend like you're freaking dying under a heavy this one day yeah
04:40:29
Annathey want attention they want to be a victim they want that 15 minutes
04:40:39
Sean (Think Before You Sleep)ago which guy is this I mean everybody's been pretty much ridiculous when the chicks are doing this struggling
04:40:49
Sophiaokay I don't think anyone agrees with this I think everyone is here is absolutely against that and I think y'all go to the gym also I'd say this isn't a common problems
04:41:04
AnnaI think the point you were trying to make is that women want this thing but they are unwilling to compromise when they get that thing because a guy that they claim to want is going to expect something in return and women are unwilling to give up that is that what
04:41:16
Brian Atlasyou were saying sort of I mean someone here bro I think it was you Josie uh brought up uh there's this video of this like liberal woman Progressive woman that kind of went viral like two weeks
04:41:28
Brian Atlasago maybe three weeks ago yeah and she's like well I really want a guy who's going to pay for me open open the door to my car you know be like kind of that traditional man but also has these
04:41:39
TTS ReaderProgressive value in solos and female only gyms problems so there are those and the male only
04:41:50
Josiegyms become very similar to Bath House well yeah in that sense yeah yeah and I
04:41:57
Brittany Ventihave no women friends so I'd be alone I agree with Mr Brian on the thing about uh college for example like being an example of that indoctrination you're
04:42:09
Brittany Ventitalking about that women are taught to hate certain assets masculine that is true and that does happen I think that does affect um how the women are reacting but overall I think a lot of women are just following suit to what the men are
04:42:21
Brittany Ventileading them to do because women tend to be more agreeable right so I think ultimately the man has to be masculine take a lot of responsibility so you're saying they should leave
04:42:33
Brittany Ventidating apps or I think I mean like dating apps overall aren't aren't that effective I mean you don't have to delete them but they're not that effective they're not that great so you're saying you should take initiative and try to reach out in
04:42:45
Sean (Think Before You Sleep)person yeah I think yeah I think yeah if you're struggling you should do that but then he said because follow them I don't know and like there's a whole load of social issues that come with you only do this on an app like where are your
04:42:57
Sean (Think Before You Sleep)friend groups are you going out and doing stuff what kinds of people are you meeting this if you're solving this problem with an app it means you're not going out and doing other stuff that you should be doing yeah and you're gonna have lots of those social issues I
04:43:08
Annadisagree I mean I I Got Confidence from dating apps whereas before like people were always really mean to me guys were always really mean to me and then when I was having my life and doing my own thing and then I got on dating apps and
04:43:21
Annathen I was like okay the pressure is off because I already know this person is interested in me and they want to go out on dates we have things in common and it's not going to be you know some guy trying to use me or anything like that
04:43:32
Lanaand I mean I my ex I dated for almost two years I don't think they're bad I think that men should what men and women should just not solely rely on the dating apps they should take
04:43:43
Lanaopportunities that they find through friend groups through if they're not working for you it doesn't mean all is doomed that's what we're saying okay I well just to go back to your point about
04:43:52
Brian Atlasmen should start approaching women more in public uh one it's pretty hard to do cold approach uh and the other thing I would say is that I think I mentioned me
04:44:03
Brian Atlastoo men are much more cautious about you know oh my God if I say the wrong thing or I I misstep I'm going to be accused of harassment or you know whatever it
04:44:14
Brian Atlasmay be also we've stigmatized I think like it's such a faux pas now to like date within the workplace whereas I think in the past a lot of people would date in the workplace people are so like that that's yeah the workplace thing
04:44:26
Lanathat's all not a great idea but um you could say college in the past but not really anymore why can't what happened sorry and what happened to people just saying hello to each other if if you have say hello to a woman that you're passing by you think she's
04:44:38
Brittany Ventiattractive and she does like turns her head or if she says hello back to you and smiles like are you gonna do you think it's easy to pick up a girl like cold approach okay I don't know I think it's in the neighborhood by the way uh coming
04:44:51
Brittany Ventifrom Brooklyn in the in some of the most ghetto Parts where it was just straight up harassed there's a difference between like approaching a woman in a cafe nicely and you know you don't look like you're a hobo or something versus a guy
04:45:03
Sophiagoing hey yo baby girl back that ass oh like there's a huge difference okay also can I say I mean I think it's kind of a little stupid to say that men are scared to ask women out because of me too
04:45:14
Annabecause it's not like people are being falsely accused like that I mean not saying it doesn't happen but it's not like people say something to lose or right like Henry Cavill the dude that played Superman and The Witcher he got semi-canceled because he
04:45:27
Annasaid he's afraid to approach women this is the man that plays Superman because he's afraid of getting me tuned
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Annayeah but then just meet the one I know but look what happened to Johnny Depp you know you could fall in love with someone and think that this is the best person ever and they completely betrayed I mean that was kind of both mutually abusive it wasn't like he's just
04:45:51
Sophiainnocent and I didn't even follow up like that but that's one thing I could see from that situation
04:45:59
Sean (Think Before You Sleep)I'm not saying she wasn't the worst one but it's like an addict you still had a ton of other problems like but she cut off she fingered she took a [ __ ] on his
04:46:08
Brian Atlasbed and tried to blame it hold on tried to blame it on the Chihuahua and he was a giant human-sized [ __ ] she tried to blame that [ __ ] you know the stuff she
04:46:19
Brian Atlassaid in front of like the entire world on TV like ultimate I mean I think also look me too is maybe a smaller component of it but I
04:46:29
Brian Atlasthink it's also just men do now have access to to dating apps where rejection has a little bit less of a sting um also it like it takes a bit of the skill some finesse you know some games
04:46:42
Brian Atlassome Riz whatever the [ __ ] you want to call it to approach somebody yeah I don't like that term I prefer game but the nest to to yeah to like approach someone in person it's uh it's pretty hard you know and it is kind of a bit of
04:46:55
Sean (Think Before You Sleep)you want the guy who wants to approach a check on a dating app or the one who can approach them in person like which society do you yeah well do it's
04:47:05
Brian Atlasit's but it's it's not easy to approach women in public but apparently
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Brittany Ventithank you very much thank you very much oh yeah the little flare at the End by year Brittany I think you wanted to yeah so I was thinking about what you said oh like women should approach men but the problem but the problem with that is
04:49:10
Brittany Ventithat when women approach men women don't know how much the guy actually will like them and that's a problem because women aren't really the initiators if they do it could be seen as desperate so when you're a woman approaching a guy it it
04:49:22
Brittany Ventihits a lot harder in the ego for a lot of women because it's like you're already supposed to be like value to an extent right you're supposed to be pursued so but a rejection for a woman is terrible yeah imagine you get rejected you're like oh my God some like
04:49:33
Brittany VentiI don't have value as a woman and I get like men also get that ego shot but it's a different kind because you're supposed to be doing it so imagine you you go out of your comfort zone to that point of like approaching a guide where you're already supposed to be wanted as a woman and then you get rejected
04:49:49
Brian AtlasI totally agree but let's say for the sake of argument let's say I concede to your point that yes it it hits women's ego harder but wouldn't you agree that if a woman a woman has a much better
04:50:01
Brittany Ventisuccess rate if she were to go up to a guy versus a guy going up to a girl um in what regard the right relationship or sex sex yeah relationship maybe not because he feels like Oh Sherry wants me I don't have to try don't you have to
04:50:14
Josiedeal with like women that you don't like approaching you and that's uncle uncomfortable yeah imagine like obese I mean guys
04:50:22
Brian AtlasI will glad I will trade places with women you got I'll trade places uh you guys can come hit on me 50 Chicks can slide my DM today if some are you gotta
04:50:34
Brian Atlasride the bus if some women I'm not attracted to hit on me fine I don't that's a I will take that trade every single time but the average American woman is like obese you sure you want that yeah
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Sophiahome like sorry one thing I want to say though is I think it's funny because I mean just from my experience I was I do not get hit on like that I mean maybe a little after the podcast
04:51:08
Sophiabut no I actually don't every guy I've dated they live in a nice neighborhood that might be a factor she lives in a nice neighborhood oh yeah I live in Bakersfield I do live in the suburbs but
04:51:19
Sophiaum but my grandma's from Crenshaw so she knows what's up um but bro this guy oh my God this guy this guy is insane oh [ __ ]
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Sophiago one thing I was saying though is every guy I've been on a date with I asked him like and I genuinely I did not get asked out like that or anything I'm being so genuine right now I don't know because
04:52:22
Sophiayou're feminist but yeah it's not even you're okay with that it's not even that I mean I was I'm even talking about high school they don't really care about that but I don't know I struggled with guys