02:55:57Brian Atlasdate someone who doesn't have kids yeah I and I'd say the same for women I'm sure most women who don't have kids would prefer to date a man who doesn't have kids I think it goes it's the same for both
02:56:10Lanagenders yeah I think there's some who will and some who want but it's not because there's a lot of people who are like oh nobody's gonna want you if you're a single mother
02:56:23Sophiaand things you don't think it makes it harder I mean for me it doesn't I have a question though um are you talking about sex-wise or dating wise like relationships yeah like so both really yeah and that's interesting because a
02:56:36Sophialot of time you hear that you know it's hard for a single woman to get boyfriends or I think it's just hard to find time to go on dates yeah well there you go there you have it I think logically it makes it harder it's not
02:56:47Brittany Ventihard to it's not like it's not impossible men don't want you yeah I agree that it's not that men don't want you but it is a with any filter that you add it's going to make the dating pool smaller so the people that don't want that are automatically opted out because
02:57:00Brittany Ventithere are guys that don't want to date someone who has kids and vice versa so I think it does make it harder but it's not impossible because like yeah not to say that they're Sims for dating you but like there are sims out there they'll
02:57:10Lanatolerate like anything for a crumb of coochie right yeah so yeah but there is men who are have like who are literally like who is Gonna Want You as a single mother you just attract
02:57:22Lanadifferent guys you either get the really virtuous ones or maybe you get ones that have like a certain way about them so it just attracts different yes some guys are like okay I don't want to date someone who already has kids and some guys are
02:57:35Brittany Ventilike they're really attracted to that you being a mom yes for whatever reason but I think any filter like anything like even if you say like I won't date obese people right that's going to automatically make your
02:57:48Lanadating pull smaller obviously like like I know girls who are don't have kids but they're just attracted to dads they just like dads like they yeah dads are hot do you like that yeah which I do too
02:57:58Josiebecause it you know reflects what women tend to be into and they're looking for a protector and a provider and a good father is you know that's what it represents versus if someone already has
02:58:10Josiea kid with somebody else that means that okay the dad is going to be in a picture regardless because whether you like it or not
02:58:19Brittany Ventithe kid is somebody else's kid would you guys get married to or be in a long-term relationship with a guy who has children I think he was like perfect in every
02:58:30Sophiaother way I am yeah so I'm I'm fine with it what about you guys possibly I mean I don't know if I'm infertile or not but I've had medical struggles so I mean if he's the perfect guy and we got married
02:58:42Lanaand everything you know worked out well I would probably yeah when I was younger before I had kids I was in a relationship with someone who already had a child so can I get a raise of hands like who
02:58:54Brittany Ventiwould date a guy given he's like perfect guy otherwise if he had a kid not a preference but not a deal breaker not a deal breaker not a deal breaker I mean my fiance has a daughter I mean I used to think that I was a deal breaker until I was like okay
02:59:08Brian Atlaswhatever for me personally it's a deal breaker unless I had kids then it wouldn't be well let's ask the two men here unless any of you identify as a man
02:59:18Sean (Think Before You Sleep)uh by the way you identify as a man yeah man whip it out whenever you want those are the rules I guess whenever at one of
02:59:28Brian Atlasthe men's restrooms so would you would you uh given the option between a woman who has a kid and a woman who doesn't want a kid
02:59:38Brian Atlaswhich would you prefer to date has a kid a woman who doesn't want one no no sorry sorry excuse me a woman who has a child and a woman who doesn't have a child generally the one who doesn't but it depends on how old you are like
02:59:51Sean (Think Before You Sleep)obviously the older you get and if you're trying to get someone relatively the same age range it's gonna get harder and harder for that to happen so generally no but if I'm like 45 like it's not going to be feasible probably I mean
03:00:04Sean (Think Before You Sleep)well if you don't have any kids you know you can I guess but like you're gonna you're gonna probably get like I mean are you at the point where it's like if you're that old like how old is your kid it's not like they're one so they're probably
03:00:15Sean (Think Before You Sleep)gonna they're probably gonna be 17 or 18 at that point maybe 13 12 something like that sure well are you dating guys who have kids themselves I mean like I
03:00:27Lanaprefer that because I think I feel like they just have more of an understanding you know and the just the maturity level that comes with being a parent is
03:00:38Brian Atlasattractive to me got it yeah okay I mean at least for me it it's certainly not ideal to no offense to date a woman who has a kid
03:00:51Sophiaand I think I think most men who don't have kids themselves it's like yeah I mean not an ideal move it depends on your age range like when you're older I mean in your 50s 60s and you get
03:01:02Sophiaremarried I mean I mean in the dating League there most people have kids so it doesn't really matter but well I suppose you get yeah you're a little younger but you know you
03:01:13Annastill have time so my mom never had a problem so my parents got divorced right before I started high school or they broke up right before I started High School my mom had three kids living at home she never had a problem finding a guy same with my grandma she had a kid and she married
03:01:26Sophiaum a guy and he had like a couple kids but that was way like you know like 15 years later but when she first divorced her husband um she didn't have a problem dating at
03:01:38Josieall I think it really depends on how crazy the baby mama or baby dad are I'm sorry yeah like that but okay that's what they are once they're separated okay I I don't know I mean
03:01:49Brian Atlasthey're like mansplaining young kind of women's slaining right now like sorry but I just I just think it's a sub-optimal move as a guy who doesn't
03:01:58Brittany Ventihave kids to date a woman who has kids I think that applies both ways table that it's I view it as a Jailbreaker because I don't have kids so I'm just a little closer to the mic
03:02:10Brittany Ventium because I don't have kids I would view it as a deal breaker but um I think we also have to consider that people are the whole package right we don't get to like pick one thing and you take it for what it is for the most part
03:02:22Brittany Ventipeople can improve but that's one of those things like do you like the person enough to have that as one of your cons is it worth it to date them but for me it's always a deal breaker as of now unless I had children later in life or
03:02:35Brittany Ventisomething like that so you can't pick and choose you get what you get you can pick and choose your partner but if you see someone you like you can't just be like oh I don't like this one thing about them exactly because I used
03:02:47Josieto be a used deal breaker for me because I'm like so not ready for that but it's just I'm like okay that is what it is like I you know yeah okay okay hold on hold on she's worth it just to bring it back to
03:02:59Brian Atlasyour thing so you said you wanted to debunk the myth that men don't want to date moms but when it comes to just optimizing you know your potential match hold on
03:03:10TTS Readerjust a sec like young boys who are hi Brian I've been loving your show so much thank you man thanks for the great content in
03:03:21TTS Readerwaiting to hear back from whatever Onyx I'm excited to hear from the ladies and gentlemen on tonight I'm so happy to see byronique Barbie back on what's up girl
03:03:34Brian AtlasEmily Emily thank you very much can we get some W's in the chat for our homegirl uh byronique she's the [ __ ] Legend seriously [Applause] sorry
03:03:47Byroniquespeak up girl yo we go I talk about the same [ __ ] in circles and circles gam can we get something else popping over here what you what you want to talk about we'll we'll cover yourself
03:03:58Brian Atlas[ __ ] me up tonight uh I don't even know I got a perfect question for you I will I will Loop it in in like three minutes so um okay debunking the myth that men
03:04:09Brian Atlasdon't want to date moms right yeah you're about to say well little boys they don't want to date yeah I'm talking about like I'm not talking about like okay like
03:04:19Lanathere's a certain point where men become more mature and they want to settle down and that pool of men I think want to settle down with a single mom I
03:04:30Lanawould say that pool of men aren't just as discriminate they might be okay with it
03:04:40Brian AtlasI don't doubt that you're able to find men who want to date you or hook up with you or even marry you become The Stepfather of your children however but I think looking at it from just a
03:04:53Brian Atlasmaximum like optimizing uh if there was you and then an identical version of you that didn't have a kid do you like do you think most
03:05:03Brian Atlasmen would pick for your it may not be most it may not be the majority of men but there's still a decent amount of them but but okay let's say there's an
03:05:13Lanaidentical version of you but without a child no I I think some men like some men hey I and I'm also basing this on like like I I you know what I do and a
03:05:25Josielot of men are attracted to me for that reason they like the MILF status seriously I had like two friends in college that were like super into like MILFs like so into it like they have they wanted nothing to do with
03:05:37Lanagirls they're into older women or they're into MILFs you know the fact that you like you know a lot of like attraction comes from uh
03:05:47Lanasubconscious like um idea of like like reproducing right so a woman who like a lot of women or a lot of men are attracted to women who
03:05:57Brian Atlasare curvy right because they represent being able to Bear children right so you're saying because you've given birth to a child before that means that you
03:06:08Brittany Ventiare you've demonstrated I'm assuming that like maybe that's why guys like MILFs because they it's not clear to me I just want to point out one thing I would be just not that there aren't good
03:06:20Brittany Ventiguys out there that would love kids because they just like kids and they just haven't had their own but I would be a suspect if I were a single mom and a guy was like went out of his way to be like yes
03:06:32Brittany Ventithat's what I want in this like proactively going for I'd be like I don't want my kids to get touched against their Wills I I would I would be careful also another thing I'd like to say I mean you're 35 oh I don't no don't
03:06:44Lanaget me wrong like there's no men coming in my house but um yeah you have to be careful no like I like I where I'm at now I would be I would be fine if I was even single for the rest of my life
03:06:56Annaand I just was a mom what can I ask because your Situation's a little bit different because you're a widow do you think that that plays into it because a lot of people like I'm engaged to a guy with a kid so and it most of it is
03:07:07Annadealing with the other parent so because you're in that situation they don't have to deal with another parent like something very tragic happened to you right that's a good point because I definitely think like one of the reasons why
03:07:19Brian Atlaseither a man or a woman wouldn't want to deal with someone who you know uh like the the uh what's the term the the the other parent the other parent is one
03:07:30Brian Atlasthere's always that risk of reconciliation and then two like okay what if the [ __ ] X is psycho so I think you are in a very unique situation a fairly unique situation because you're
03:07:43Brian Atlasa widow I think that does make it different but I don't think that that excludes for example the you know concerns when it comes to well you know you've got the kid and then there's some
03:07:55Lanafinancial concern like Financial component to that uh I think like some men just like like like it because they want to be like the hero and come and save the day for me or
03:08:07Lanasomething like you know like oh yeah there's no fun the hero complex yeah maybe that's it Captain Save A Mister yeah literally
03:08:19Lanabut um like to answer General your question yeah that that might be a component in that because I mean for me like I've had like the love of my life and we had a
03:08:29Josiechild together and like if I don't ever do that again I'm okay with it the loss of someone like having to date somebody that lost somebody is like you need to
03:08:39Josiebe comfortable with the fact that you can love somebody while you still love someone else who has passed but I've had
03:08:50JosieI have a friend that actually did that but he found a girl that was in the same situation and they can both accept that okay we still love somebody right and
03:09:01Josiewe're still sad at we lost somebody but we're happy together and we can just find the best in each other and sorry it's a difficult thing to talk about but
03:09:12Brittany Ventihow does this tie into Miss Barbie over here you said you had a question well I was finishing up with the the mom thing but um trying to Loop it back in here so and Brittany no you're not the only one
03:09:24Byroniquebecause I don't [ __ ] with [ __ ] they got kids either
03:09:31Brian Atlasokay um okay so the question the question is um what I guess what is the benefit of like let's say there's an identical version
03:09:40Lanaof you that didn't have a kid like why would a guy pick the woman with a kid it just looks why is identical because I'm a different
03:09:51Brian Atlasperson as a mom than I was before I had children I just I I don't see the like there's no real benefits if someone likes me for my
03:10:02Brian Atlaspersonality and no but but I'm saying like to you have a let's say there's an identical version of you one of them The Identical version does not have a kid what would like why would
03:10:14Lanasomeone pick a guy who has no kids specifically right because or even a guy who does have kids well usually you do want to date other parents because like they understand and know you know it's just okay fine how about the guy who doesn't have okay the
03:10:27Lanaguy who doesn't have kids I mean unless he's like has like a MILF thing he probably would go to the kit the non
03:10:40Brian Atlasthose are some things that might you have more of because you're a mom but you said you you were wanting to debunk the myth that men don't want to date moms and I would say generally speaking
03:10:50Brian Atlasfor example I I think a lot of men who don't have kids would prefer to not date yeah a lot but not all
03:11:00Brian Atlasright but then it it's not really it's not really debunking the myth it is this is a myth I don't think it's a myth I think it's true that most
03:11:09Brian Atlaspeople men or women who don't have kids would prefer to date someone who also doesn't have kids I'm not is that a myth I'm not or is that true yeah I'm just not seeing that
03:11:21Brian Atlasin my life well wait and in other people because I just know so many people way before I had kids I noticed like have you been doing much dating though I trying to recall your answer I don't think you've been dating much have you
03:11:32Brian AtlasI'm not but like even though I may not want to date people they have wanted to date me well wait so have you gone actually gone on dates with these people or they just want I have dates with you no yeah or do
03:11:44Lanathey just want sex from you which is probably the more realistic no like like for example like people who know me through friends and found out that like I moved back to like my hometown and stuff and they know
03:11:56Lanaabout they know I have a kid this and that or they know we have mutual friends and then they're they're interested in meeting me or getting set up with me like I'm not looking but it's coming to me
03:12:12Brian Atlasso guys are dming you like I don't I you should not confuse you should not confuse like sexual attraction for relationship attractions so these they were not trying to just hook up not these guys yeah but let's let's not
03:12:25Brian Atlasignore the fact that you're like trying to be let's not ignore the fact that men will lie about their intentions to sleep with women but these were like the grown men I'm talking let's not
03:12:36Sophiaignore them I wanted to lie about their intentions in order okay but there is a big maturity difference between like 18 year olds and 40 year olds
03:12:45Sophiaokay I mean when you're 40. not always but I'm just gonna say it's different or if you were at a different stage of your life when you're 40 and you want to get married you haven't you know had kids
03:12:56Sophiahaven't been in a relationship and you'd probably want to get married unless you don't want that at all Vermillion wants to know did they commit who who he's uh
03:13:06Brittany Ventihe's a chatter he's in the chat these guys I didn't want to date them because I wasn't ready what use is attracting a person if you don't want to date them though I
03:13:19Brittany Ventiwouldn't want that well they're people that are propositioning you right now that's a factor but I mean like I was assuming it was because you weren't physically attracted to them that you didn't want to date though no I
03:13:31Annajust emotionally wasn't ready okay and there's also that but you know sometimes you get to know someone and they're not the person that you I don't know yeah and also some guys can't have kids and they want to be a father that's true
03:13:43Jasmine Jafarthat's another thing I like that you're mature you're hard working you make sacrifices for your child that maybe if you weren't a mom you wouldn't make it can indicate it could be an indicator of some of those traits some guys might
03:13:55Lanathink yeah and I've just known so many people who it's like I found out that they got with a woman who had kids and they didn't have kids I just know so many stories
03:14:06Jasmine Jafarabout being a mother is feminine and if someone's a mom she probably has some of those feminine traits you know she does because she's she's showing you by the way she's a mother a lot of guys are turned on by a good mother I would say
03:14:18Brian Atlasthat and vice versa like a lot of women are turned on very good yeah I can tell you I had one experience with a single mother and she we had gone on one date which took
03:14:30Brian Atlasforever to schedule and then on our second date uh she ten minutes before we were supposed to
03:14:38Brian Atlasmeet said my teenage daughter is having a issue sorry can't meet you how old was this woman but some guys like when you play hard to get um she was on accident because you're in
03:14:50Brian Atlasyour 30s you're dating a woman with a teenager I like I think it was uh she was in our 40s teen pregnancy I think she was like um 39. okay A bit older than me a bit older than me
03:15:03Brian Atlasum but like canceled on me like 10 minutes before we were supposed to meet so I mean and that's the furthest I've ever gone like with a single mother I've heard
03:15:15Brian Atlassome pretty bad stories from men where it's like okay there's an expectation well I think one of the other big things that you often hear is eventually down the line there's going to be an expectation if you're in a
03:15:28Brian Atlasrelationship with a single mother that's the single mother is going to expect the guy to provide not just for you but for the kid and so that adds like sort of a double duty to provide for a child
03:15:38Brian Atlasthat's not yours uh the issue with that though is there's all the responsibility but none of the corresponding Authority so a woman who's a single mother she
03:15:50Brian Atlasmight expect you to provide but she might not expect like she might not allow you as the guy to have any authority over your over the child is that something you would want
03:16:01Brian Atlaswell if I'm I wouldn't okay I wouldn't date a single mother but it's to me if you're going to be responsible wait providing for a child you and you're going to step in as
03:16:13Brittany Ventia stepfather you know yeah you you don't you aren't given authority over the kid was the date that you had with the single mom before you decided that you wouldn't date single moms
03:16:25Brian AtlasI mean I'd always been kind of hesitant but I was like I guess I could give it a shot and uh I mean it basically just confirmed some of the things I had already kind of thought
03:16:37Brian Atlasabout um you know I I'm in a position where I'm not I'm not uh I suppose you could say I have other options where there's plenty of women to date that don't have
03:16:48Brian Atlaschildren so I'm not liking the situation at least in my age cohort where it's like man it's kind of tough out there in terms of options but um to bring it back to what I'm trying to remember what I was saying oh yeah
03:17:00Brian Atlasyou don't have authority over the kid like most single moms are not gonna like allow you to discipline their kid but they will expect you to provide for their kid so it's all the responsibility
03:17:12Lanawith none of the authority but wouldn't it be responsibility to have the parent a whole child um he's saying a lot of responsibility but not not authority to go with it yeah
03:17:23Lanathat may be the the case in a lot of situations not all like you know do you expect the guy to provide for your daughter
03:17:33Lanaum I have a hard time even imagining like letting someone live with us let alone provide for us because I just well it's plausible you could at some point if you do get into a relationship
03:17:45Brian Atlaswith a guy you'd some point there'd be an introduction and then maybe after a year two years three years you know maybe you guys I mean if I'm already financed father status right but if I'm
03:17:57Brian Atlasalready financially independent on my own and then they come in what am I going to do to stop working stop making money and just be like okay now it's on you that might be the case for you but there's definitely single mothers out there that are going to expect a new man
03:18:09Brian Atlascoming into their life to have some Maybe not immediately but down the road and actually there are some single mothers who have an expectation that the guy start providing instantly for example you hear these stories of women
03:18:19Brian Atlaswanting men to pay for the babysitter uh like on the first date yeah I mean that's for dinner but I don't yeah a guy might not care about that though if he has a lot of money and he didn't care
03:18:31Brittany Ventiabout it yeah better options probably and yeah but maybe he likes her over enough over the other women that does happen it depends on if he offers versus if she doesn't
03:18:42Lanaright if he's like a traditional man or has some some Traditional Values and likes likes to be most men like the kind of men that I'm attracted to they enjoy being the provider
03:18:54Lanaso I and they would probably like want me to not do anything are you a traditional woman deep down I kind of am but I don't not
03:19:04Brian Atlasfully you do porn but I'm not fully I mean like right now like I'm single no but I mean simply by virtue of you doing only fans I mean aren't you in
03:19:15Lanaessence not a traditional woman no yeah I'm not fully I have some Traditional Values okay sure that may very well be the case but you're the guy like my
03:19:24Lanalifetime before I did only fans which was you know a while like a long time um I never did anything like that and I was always loyal and you know I wanted we lived like in the country and wanted
03:19:37Lanato have a bunch of babies you know what I mean yeah and like stuff like that but sure things have changed a little bit as you can see okay fair enough um
03:19:49Byroniqueby Renique what's you said you're from did you say South Central well I was born in Compton in South Central L.A what's good baby yo
03:20:00Brian Atlaswhat is the dating meta what is the dating meta in South Central in Compton how how does it move I would love to bring you out there baby show you around
03:20:12Byroniquewould I would say for me holiday but uh I mean it's better than it used to be man we could go into daytime early morning before the
03:20:23Byroniquegangsters work that's true yeah they all get up until about 2 p.m so you feel we'll be good
03:20:34Byroniqueum all this all this they talking about only relevant in the hood is it some white people [ __ ] yeah it really is are we talking about something it's so irrelevant like all this baby mama baby
03:20:46Byroniquedaddy like debating on if that's a bad thing to say a good thing to say who gives a [ __ ] thing I have a question for you then so in the hood somebody that hey what's up man wait by Renee can
03:20:59Josieyou just scoot into the table a little bit go ahead like is it like if like a guy a guy that doesn't pay his child support well first off in the hood
03:21:10Byroniquea guy probably ain't can't cannot be put on child support because I'm gonna give you an example my homegirl from back in the day you feel me she got pregnant by the guy that guy didn't want the baby she said he was going to school at the
03:21:23Byroniquetime she got pregnant he was going to school to be a fireman when he found out she was pregnant and she threatened him she said okay you want to play me and say this ain't your baby imma prove this yo baby we gonna do a DNA and I'm gonna put that child support on your ass do you know he
03:21:37Byroniquestopped going to school to be a fireman because he knew they would be taking so much of that damn fireman check because you know they get paid well right he's he gay that's dream up and start
03:21:47Byroniqueslinging in the hood because that way he was saying I don't know if he's late yeah I heard he was playing was he slinging he was like come on Brian what was he saying
03:22:00Byroniquey'all don't know what's slanging girl you lived in the hood what's that sling a dick oh look okay he was slanging but I ain't fitting to
03:22:10Byroniqueget all in the man but just know he gave up the fireman dream he started slanging on the corners that thing you understand what I'm saying okay because now the court when she tried to go to court and get child support on paper that man
03:22:22Byroniquedon't work he don't got no job so guess what now he's beating the system now she cannot get no child support from his ass so you understand what I'm saying things work differently in the hood people find ways to get around things you understand
03:22:34Byroniquewhat I'm saying we hood street smart you understand sometimes free smart is better than being book smart I just want to let y'all know that I would just not ask so I wouldn't get in trouble but what if he goes to prison is that like a good
03:22:47Byroniquewhat's he gonna do then what'd you mean if he go to he can't pay child support if he in prison either okay that's that's what it is and who we understand that's stupid we understand
03:22:58Byroniquethat's not the right choice we understand that's not smart but these are the risks that [ __ ] in the hood is willing to take him yeah
03:23:10Byroniquebut that's why you have to be careful see I don't date [ __ ] In The Hood no more you understand what I'm saying I don't do that because I I did I lived their life in high school wait byronique didn't you say you said you don't date
03:23:23Brian Atlasnot in the hood I can't I can't say that I can't say that I know I don't please don't certain you don't because I've already got clout for her letting her pass well let me tell you
03:23:32Byroniqueuh please you said that dudes like me kind of your type yes yes what's up how you doing
03:23:44Byroniqueready while I was here but you still ain't slitting my DMs I'm still waiting so you know you got the Ting right now and she has no kids
03:23:54ByroniqueI got a fur baby you like dogs oh dogs but you got a guy right now I can't oh
03:24:07Brittany Ventiserious like you're fine I can't step on any toes you know like I can't you know don't you want to be an alpha you can't just let him win like that that's very beta yeah
03:24:22Brian Atlaswait how's it beta beta beta whatever I don't like the alphabet of [ __ ]
03:24:29Brian Atlasum to to not want to like get in between like she hasn't gone out
03:24:39Brian Atlaswith this is the one option so you gotta win her over I you get points for not like stepping on on other dudes toes because you never know
03:24:55Annastranger e stranger I I make my best no he's not your homie yeah she hasn't even been out with this guy she doesn't matter I don't like to step on toes
03:25:06Brittany Ventioptional though don't you want to like be like be a [ __ ] Outlet yeah like you would be you know masculine be like what's up this my girl yeah
03:25:19Brian AtlasI don't think uh I don't think it's masculine to [ __ ] like MOG other dudes and like you're not watching him she hasn't even gone out with this dude yeah I think the most masculine thing is be like hey there's plenty of options out there let me get a properly single
03:25:31Brian Atlasgirl I'm not gonna steal bro that's how dudes get [ __ ] clipped is by stealing chicks I'm not trying to get clipped they're not committed
03:25:52Brian AtlasI come from the Mean Streets of Santa Barbara there's some [ __ ] you don't even know dude listen have you been to the west side
03:26:03Byroniqueyeah some cholos outside today
03:26:11AnnaI'm from the Mean Streets of Santa Barbara of Santa Barbara High Cost of Living there wait you're gonna get jumped by the
03:26:22Brian Atlascollege students or the retirees that's what you're afraid of listen look I'm listen don't don't sleep on Santa Barbara there's some there's some criminal there's some criminal Enterprises in
03:26:35Sean (Think Before You Sleep)Santa Barbara okay there's a real estate fraud or like listen
03:26:45Brian AtlasI roamed there's the Mesa
03:26:51Brian Atlasthat's like five hours Montecito Montecito Oprah's out there oh that's
03:27:02Byroniquehair I'm sure Oprah is not happening in her area
03:27:12ByroniqueI'm just saying like Oprah be out there in the wine Fields reading her magazines she ain't having it so okay um
03:27:25Byroniquedo you think I would do good if I moved to Compton do you think I'd do good with the women in Compton okay see and this is where I I get a lot of flack because people are like it's
03:27:35Byroniquehard for me knowing that my preference is white chocolate it's hard for me a black woman especially a black woman from the hood to get white chocolate because they all think that they assume
03:27:46Byroniquethat black women don't want them and and this is true I'm gonna be honest with you because most black women be like [ __ ] you want a white man for what like you know what I mean that's their attitude about it they just want to stick with their own kind but to me
03:27:59Byroniquethat's kind of closed-minded and it's like there's so much more out there not even just with white chocolate but with other cultures and dating you know other cultures but can you scoot into the table just you're getting clipped a little bit on the uh oh it just we we've
03:28:11Byroniquegot it we got to see you it ain't happening all this thickness there we go we got to see you in the frame [ __ ] you hear this Brian let everybody
03:28:20Byroniquelisten what the one I'm stuck on the side here so like but no I you know so I I understand why
03:28:32Byroniquea lot of other race men do not approach black women because they feel like black women is not going to get in the time of day they would not be completely wrong thinking that way because most black women would not get in the time of the
03:28:43Byroniqueday but there are some of us you understand what I'm saying look at uh uh Serena you know she got her white man Tina Turner R.I.P got her white man you
03:28:52Byroniquefeel me so there are some of us you feel me that are willing to go that way so it just really really depends now going in the hood in Compton
03:29:03Brian Atlasanyway yeah I wouldn't I wouldn't pull uh no I don't know that's too bad your podcast might Skyrocket that could be fun I should I should get a tour bus and go to
03:29:16Byroniquedifferent cities I should go to Alabama you need to because you need to get different perspectives because all this same time you you should come to Bakersfield would be good because even white people
03:29:28Byroniquein La is very different than white people in Kansas or in Texas or in Florida you know anywhere they're very very different you feel me saying white folks is down with the get down um but out here in La it's the bougie to
03:29:42ByroniqueHollywood the Beverly Hills you know it's the 90210 it's that so it really you really need to go on tour Brian you need to take this [ __ ] on the road and you I would love to see all the different perspectives and you give black folks a chance to come on here and
03:29:54Byroniqueget a appears because it's very different you go get some very different appeals so you got to be ready and you got to be open-minded baby because you're gonna hear many different things and many different takes on things but that's what it's about that would be funny but like what's the point how is
03:30:07Brittany Ventihe gonna get him a baby mama when literally when literally if another man looks in the direction of the girl he wants he's gonna be like nah bro bro code oh you said he going he gonna be a child that's
03:30:20Byroniquewhat you think [Music] [Laughter]
03:30:31Byroniqueif he really wants somebody see he don't really want me like that because if he did he would be and that's what it is like us women have to realize if a man really really wants you he will go to the hell's end you feel me and back to
03:30:44Byroniquereally get you yeah and he'll try to take you from whoever you're with it don't matter if you marry with kids 10 kids 20 I don't get him that's how you get clipped if he really wants that's how you get if he really wants you and
03:30:56Brian Atlasis really interested won't nothing stop that man yeah he's clipped killed him clipped oh oh yeah I've never been to New Jersey no okay we don't men want a
03:31:06Lanawoman who's like highly in demand huh don't men want a woman who's in high demand
03:31:14Brittany Ventino it's different it's like you don't want if a girl is like has a bunch of suitors you don't want that why not but when attractive women have that I mean it
03:31:28Brian Atlasdepends it wouldn't make her more attractive it depends how yeah it wouldn't make her more attractive because men don't need a co-sign to find a girl attractive but does that come with like pre-selection well
03:31:44Brian Atlaspart of it is how out there you are on social media in what way well like if you're if you have a social media preference presence excuse me
03:31:56Brian Atlasthen you're going to have much more sutures much more options and that bothers you because what do you mean why does it bother you if she has a lot of options
03:32:07Brian Atlasor suitors it's not so much it depends maybe I should clarify if she's like dating around she's going on a bunch of dates for example if I go on a first date with a girl and I find out that
03:32:19Brian Atlasshe's like dating other dudes while she's even if it's a first day with me I'm done I don't wanna I'm not going to see her again
03:32:29TTS Readerso you wouldn't meet her on a dating app you're on a dating app values respect are openly shamed total respect for anyone who wouldn't intentionally get in the middle wait what
03:32:42Brian Atlasum talking about you getting in the middle of her and her date I think respect our Oklahoma total respect for anyone who wouldn't intentionally we're saying to
03:32:53Jasmine Jafargo for it he's saying you're right and not going for it
03:33:03Lanashe wouldn't formal line please one at a time okay so she wouldn't so ideally she wouldn't be on Instagram or have a public Instagram at least right and she wouldn't be on a
03:33:16Brian Atlasdating site so you would have to meet her in person or something or I could just be like first first there what is it about you the new like the new one like just just downloading the dating
03:33:26Josieapps like I can save her okay so like you saw like my Instagram like the way that it is that would bother you
03:33:37Josieno I I didn't do a thorough review of your Instagram I saw some bike photos or something yeah it's like I mean I could let my dad manage that again that I wouldn't care like that gives you a pretty good idea of how my DM wait what
03:33:48Jasmine Jafarwas the original point I'm trying to return to well you say like you don't want a girl that has like Instagram and stuff like like a social media why it's a turn off and she has a lot of suitors and then you said I don't like girls that date around I want her to only be
03:34:01Brian Atlason a date with me but if you meet her on a dating app what is it about you that would make her just be not not well okay not all women on dating apps are just like going on tons of dates although a
03:34:12Jasmine Jafarfair amount of them are but women when we're on a dating app we have to like lower our we have to make it manageable and then between a bunch of people we don't have a preference because we don't know much about you yet right so if she goes out with you you
03:34:25Brian Atlasexpect something about you for her to be like I'm not gonna talk to anyone else until this one date happens pretty much yeah you basically just you even before you've even I've come onto your radar you need to have been single
03:34:38Annafor like three years no I'm kidding but uh well if you tell this to the girls up front like hey like I don't want you to be seeing other people do you have a screenshot or combos no no I'm not like
03:34:49Brittany VentiI'm not the type of guy that's like gonna go through a girl's phone but uh I'm gonna like ask some questions I'm gonna be like who are you seeing anybody else right now well to find a girl without an Instagram
03:35:01Brittany Ventibecause like everyone uses it not even just to post photos but just communicate or like consume content right so wouldn't that be a small percentage of girls that you're limiting yourself to no well I didn't say I if if a girl has
03:35:13Brian Atlasan Instagram that's not like an immediate no go for me I think you should just get off I'm trying to remember what the original string was where I mentioned Instagram you said girls with following so she
03:35:25Josieasks you if a girl has a lot of suitors is she still desirable and you said no that's the original high value man the DMS and stuff and stuff and daddy could just come and take your women and that Instagram is pretty much like a dating
03:35:37Brian Atlasapp that's how you get like Bloom check marks Lighting in your DMs and stuff okay well the original thing uh the original thing was let me see uh total respect for anyone who wouldn't intentionally get in the middle so this
03:35:50Brian Atlaswas about me saying I don't want to step on any toes I think that's what initially brought on this conversation um so I'm trying to and then she said isn't it hot if you know there's a lot of people in competition for the girls no
03:36:03Brittany Ventino that's what I said I said the hot women naturally are going to have a lot of guys that are because they're hot yeah yeah guys
03:36:15Brittany Ventidoes it make her less attractive but is that realistic though it could make her more uh less attractive what's that I agree like that's annoying like I like if you could have like a guy that's hot with like a bunch of like girls hanging
03:36:28Brittany Ventiaround versus not obviously like I would also choose like not but naturally in the territory we have an attractive woman or attractive guy there's gonna be people who want them so like don't you think that's really difficult to achieve
03:36:40Brittany Ventiwhat you're saying is a hot woman who also magically has no guys into her but she's still really hot and diamond in the rough like a chick like a diamond would you say that's realistic no one
03:36:51Jasmine Jafarnoticed her well would you do you want her to have watched this podcast and been like I saw Brian on the stating app now I'm not going to talk to it because other why would she do that she sounds like a lunatic or she just saw you oh my God
03:37:04Brian AtlasI'm not talking to her before she even meets you okay let me I guess I could also frame this like is it unrealistic of me to want a woman who's not promiscuous
03:37:16Brian Atlasbut would you say that a majority of people are well a majority of women are promiscuous so then therefore is it unrealistic for me to desire a partner that is not promiscuous despite the
03:37:29Lanamajority of people engaging in promiscuity but when talking to multiple people on an app issue promiscuous I think no you mean selective you want someone who's selective so she's not going to choose to go on dates with all
03:37:41Lanathe guys in her anyone except or whatever apparently no so she'll have guys that she matches with but she's not going to actually go on dates with every single one I guess I'm delusional yeah I guess I'm delusional
03:37:53ByroniqueI'm dating somebody you are allowed the man is allowed to exactly like multiple people at the same time and the one wrong too because unless you say hey we're in a relationship you have to lock
03:38:04Brian Atlasthat down and say hey we're in a committed relationship in order for all that other side you know what I disagree with this I I think it's it's entirely reasonable for both men and women to be
03:38:15Jasmine Jafarproperly single and dating one person at a time I don't think it's that hard I agree before she goes on the date with you like she has to already not like if she's on a dating app why do you expect you to be the only person she's
03:38:28Brian Atlasconsidering even if you're on a dating app you can date just one person at a time it doesn't mean that that given date is going to go the distance it doesn't mean it's going to turn into a
03:38:39Brian Atlaslong-term relationship but I think and I think for both men and women if you actually want the likelihood of any one given interaction of actually you know going further I do actually think dating
03:38:50Brian Atlasone person at a time and maybe it only lasts for one day maybe it's only two dates maybe it's only three I actually think that's gonna be the thing that's going to be most likely to you so what if she's going on one date a week and
03:39:03Jasmine Jafarthen she's not talking to anyone she goes on the day she's like I don't like him next week she goes out I think that's okay okay I think that's okay no I know what you're saying but it's like we go on the first date she has we go on the first date on Wednesday she has a
03:39:15Brian Atlasdate with a guy scheduled for Friday she has another date scheduled for Saturday she's dating multiple dudes but I dated you and she didn't have the date scheduled yet she came home she's like Brian ain't it and then she scheduled another well I ain't it so I don't care
03:39:28Jasmine Jafarand that's why people do that so what if you were date number 32 on my list and I had gone on 33 but I waited until every date was over before I pursued them because I kind of did do that
03:39:39Brian Atlaswould you date me no you don't think just on that Soul Factor well you said you don't is that is that funny it's really well okay look I'll just reiterate it's really not that hard and
03:39:52Brian Atlasthis is what I think people in the past did now I think we're inundated with options it's really not that hard to date one person at a time but dating one person at a time just means that while when you have a date scheduled you're not
03:40:04Brittany Ventischeduling other dates until that date is finished I kind of laser focus in on a girl like if I'm not you know that into her okay I get what you mean because I also suffer from
03:40:15Brittany Ventioneitis and like I'm not one item it's like it's hard to date multiple people it's like it's a lot and you just like want to focus on one person but given the criteria that you've given wouldn't that be like the top top percentage of
03:40:28Brittany Ventiwomen what do you mean that that that are meeting all those requirements that you said what which ones the ones what are the requirements that I said the requirements that you said were she has
03:40:40Brittany Ventito date one person at a time um basically uh close to zero social media presence and also be very attractive and not have suitors so if you want that top percentage of women then is that realistic like do you think
03:40:53Brittany Ventithat you qualify to get that well when it comes to the the social media presence I don't think I I made that claim you said that you wanted someone with low social media presence preferably
03:41:05Brian Atlaswithout an Instagram so like pretty low pretty like uncommon that would that would be preferable in the same way that it would be preferable for a woman to to date a billionaire so like do you think
03:41:17Brian Atlasrealistically realistic okay realistically I don't have an issue dating a girl who has an Instagram now there's scales to her online presence for example if she like for example if
03:41:28Brian Atlasthe Instagram's private okay then she's like or is it public and then is it public and is she posting like kind of revealing photos that you
03:41:39Brittany Ventiknow there's degrees to it yeah so let's say there are degrees to it I agree um but let's say you want someone with like close to none it's what it came across is to me like you don't want her
03:41:50Brittany Ventiposting herself at all preferably right I don't really care so would it be would it be my preference yes it'd be pretty hard to find someone like that and I know because for me that's also a green flag when I was
03:42:02Brittany Ventidating it's a guy you know low social media presence and things like that so that's why I'm asking do you think it's realistic because that's a small number of people and I know because I've experienced that I I here's the thing though you're you're saying well is it and I think
03:42:15Brian Atlasyou're trying to get that oh Brian you're kind of delusional for wanting this but uh or you're saying you're I think you're trying to say well Brian are you of a certain status or character where you could command a woman who
03:42:28Brian Atlasmoves like that um but I I don't I don't think like for example uh that's not really a factor in in terms of a woman's physical attractiveness
03:42:40Brian Atlaswhich thing so okay like a girl who doesn't have for example like let's say a girl who's
03:42:50Brian Atlasbelow like below average in her physical appearance she might not have the social media presence like that's not going to be the thing that's a deal maker for me
03:43:03Brittany Ventiright you have to be attracted to her in the first place like already okay so okay already that's a filter right because every time you had a filter like naturally it Narrows down whether it be being a mom or whatever so if you're getting a girl low social media presence
03:43:14Brittany Ventiobviously it's the Spectrum but low social media presence and also they aren't taking um any photos themselves or like even if it's just like they're showing their outfit if that's a problem like every time you do that you're adding a filter
03:43:26Brittany Ventiright so then you have this very small dating pool so I'm asking do you think that that you could get that let me let me clarify let me clarify so I would date a girl who has Instagram
03:43:37Brittany Ventibut she posts like photos of photos of her like uh just pictures of her it's not particularly provocative but I don't know what you're definitely like she's posting her outfits she's
03:43:48Brian Atlasposting herself I would and I do and I have dated women who have Instagram for long term yes okay I'm supposed to be attracted to me that's not I some guys have different
03:43:59Brittany Ventistandards when it comes to that but would it would it be my preference if someone had like low or no social media presence yeah I I share that sense man but then also you have to get a woman that meets those requirements and that
03:44:11Josiealso is okay not having to security a marriage from you that might bear your children that might be really difficult to get don't you think what okay like I don't follow like sorry
03:44:23Brittany Ventimaybe like it's my brain cells explain the interrogation to me where are you going with this so yeah I think so if you're asking for a woman that you know has low body count because you expressed that earlier uh has low social media
03:44:36Brittany Ventipresence um also is attractive but has no guys around that also want her which is kind of out of her control to an extent and also this for us to commit to you only you one at a time and then also not has
03:44:48Brittany Ventito not want the security of marriage and have your children don't you think that's going to be really difficult to find no not really why I think you can I have plenty of people like I've found it but you're
03:45:01Brian Atlaslike are you in a relationship huh are you in a relationship well I don't I'm not going to talk about my uh no no yes
03:45:18Brian Atlasyou better keep certain things
03:45:26Brittany Ventiso whether you found someone or not I understand if you want to keep it private I get it but those are a lot of things like it's very small amount of women so like what do you personally view yourself as to get like there's
03:45:39Brittany Ventithis tiny group of women that are top quality right because I agree like I also share the sentiment of like it would be top quality for guy unless it's his job uh social media et cetera et cetera so like what do you rate yourself how do you
03:45:50Brittany Ventiview yourself to get that small what do you bring to the table Brian what do we essentially to the table because it's really hard to get that hot woman no beta orbiters at all even though it's not due to her own fall no social media
03:46:02Brian Atlaswell I I've stated hold on I've stated on my podcast for when it comes to physical appearance I consider myself look just looks wise I'd say like six um and I would date a woman who's in
03:46:15Brittany Ventiwithin that range anywhere from five I think five to seven so if a woman is a seven and then all those prior requirements that we discussed earlier like don't you think that would be difficult so are you
03:46:27Brittany Venticalling him a low value men basically like indirectly kind of he's saying that he's a sex right so like if I okay looks well so if a woman were like Top Notch they would probably want a guy of
03:46:38Brittany Ventisimilar caliber and what he described as Top Notch so he just said or seven I mean it might be even with a sub it might be difficult even just like if she were ugly so you're calling him a
03:46:48Brian Atlaslow value man no yeah you are I'm basing off of his answers so even if you remove looks I don't I don't think perhaps Society has changed uh I don't think
03:46:59Brian Atlaswanting a woman who dates one person at a time who isn't posting like permission or excuse me who isn't posting revealing photos online uh and isn't promiscuous I
03:47:11Brittany Ventidon't think that's asking for much but also she'll commit to you without marriage and have your children without any sort of like like thing to fall back strong label and then not work like how would that work
03:47:23Brittany Ventiwell where where are you getting that other stuff from well you're saying that you would be um for having a long-term relationship and if she's working a lot of guys are probably going to want her consider
03:47:35Brittany Ventishe's like assuming that she's out in public around guys if she's attractive so I would imagine you would find that ideal for the woman relied on you to provide I imagine that would be conducive to
03:47:47Brian Atlasyour standards well where did you get the idea that I I want to hold on so you're saying I'm I want to be a provider I'm just well you said long-term relationship and you also want someone who doesn't interact with
03:48:00Brittany Ventimen so how is she going to get money oh I didn't say that well if she's attractive naturally if guys interact with her she's going to attract some you know like beta orbiters right if she's attractive you don't want to
03:48:12Brittany Ventidate ugly woman that wouldn't be fair beta or I'm just trying to okay so you're gonna have like other guys hit on her and like is it gonna bother you that because wouldn't that be really hard if a woman had a job where she's
03:48:24Brittany Ventiinteracting with a lot of guys whatever the job may be and then like also magically be attractive and not have Sims or beta orbiters okay like I think you know the answer to that question
03:48:34Brian Atlashonestly like you're just asking to ask if men hit on her at her job like there's nothing I can do about that I'm not sure exactly what yeah but you
03:48:45Brian Atlassaid it's not ideal you you don't like that well certainly it's not ideal is this the [ __ ] interrogation here but um it's uh
03:48:56Brian Atlasit I I think for both men and women it wouldn't it's not an ideal scenario for your significant other to be uh hit on by yeah I agree with you but it's
03:49:07Brittany Ventia lot of list of requirements so if you only consider yourself average wouldn't that be hard to get a woman that's of that battle but aren't you sitting in his studio right now like his YouTube channel and you're here calling him like a low value man like he's got nothing
03:49:20Brittany Ventigoing on I didn't call him I didn't call him average I'm based off of what he said as the answer right and the list of requirements that make it harder even if you didn't factor in well you said what his preferences were he has preferences
03:49:33Brittany Ventiand you're saying that he's being it's a lot it's an uncommon preference so yeah oh to find a woman that's really attractive that also doesn't have I literally just said that high standards
03:49:45Brian AtlasI just said I would date a woman between like a five and a seven that's within the I consider myself to be a six that's right of women it's not a lot it's just having standards for yourself which I think it's totally understand this for
03:49:57TTS Readeryourself but I'm just pointing out that it'll be really difficult to get that so it's donated 99 oh okay I apologize to the lawyer I thought she was bad who is
03:50:08Brian Atlasthis slow person across from Brian what are you what are you digging at like I feel like you're trying to clip for me but I'm like not entirely sure how but no you're totally fine
03:50:19Brian Atlasyou're doing a good job though but I'm I'm clarifying it so if I have okay so here okay um I'm not I'm not in favor of marriage right okay
03:50:31TTS Readerthat disqualifies you from a lot of attractive high quality women donated not necessarily dollars on a scale from one to ten what do the people on the panel consider themselves on overall
03:50:42Brian Atlasvalue here well well uh here we go again let me let we'll finish off this thread with uh Brittany here and then uh Mr meatball we'll come back to that um
03:50:53Brian Atlasso I'm I are you are you saying that I'm too selective I'm too picky or I'm just I'm trying I'm not making any definitive statements I'm based off of your answer you're just saying it's going to be hard
03:51:05Brian Atlasfor well okay fine I agree with you in 2023 it will be hard to find a woman who's not promiscuous I agree yeah I agree with you yeah I need to not find a guy that doesn't I agree with you that
03:51:16Brian Atlasin 2023 living in California it's going to be hard for me to not find a woman actually I actually don't think it's that hard to find women that don't post like super revealing photos on Instagram I don't think it's that I really don't
03:51:29Brian Atlasthink it's that hard alone most normal women now I don't really date content creators I'm not dating only fans girls so
03:51:39TTS ReaderI don't think it would be that hard and most the women I've dated do not post hold on oh my God young Simba 33 donated 99
03:51:50Brian Atlaswhat is the purpose of helmet girl yeah what uh Madison one uh she's uh she's um I don't know
03:52:00Brian Atlasshe's just aimlessly hanging out here helmet I didn't know she taught until today um perhaps I can answer it like this most of my previous long-term relationships
03:52:11Brian Atlaswere with women who were not promiscuous who had minimal or no social media let me think I'm trying to
03:52:21Brian Atlaslike minimal social media presence and uh what was the other one you were asking about um attractive no social media preference is okay with not getting commitment
03:52:32Brian Atlasmarriage but has to Bear children right that's a risk no there was another one I'm trying to I'm trying to recall there was not being promiscuous low social media presence I'm trying to
03:52:44Brian Atlasremember the other one I forgot but uh I would say of the women I've had long-term relationships with or even short-term relationships with actually most of them fall within my
03:52:55Brian Atlasstandards Okay so it seems like the conversations well I can tell you that I've gotten the types of women that fall within that
03:53:08Josieframework especially in California you're kind of like that girl from Tick Tock who's like I want a a conservative who's a liberal but like on reverse you know like I wonder I want I want a
03:53:20Josieconservative woman who's kind of a liberal it's like I consider myself somewhat politically moderate but uh you're Democratic you voted them did you
03:53:30Josievote for Joe Biden Brian he voted for news did you no yeah he did he did why are you guys speaking for me say like you voted blue like it's like you're out for like 95 of conservative women so I'm
03:53:44Byroniquelike sorry the man likes what he likes let him take out our preferences Let It Be oh yeah you're allowed to have preferences absolutely but yeah like sometimes you know it's not gonna match all of your
03:53:56Josiepreferences and you're like you know what in like how does how do you say that then despite of or yeah I think that's the word sorry yeah that