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00:02:19Brittany Ventiage occupation and where you're from go ahead hi I'm Brittany venti I'm a YouTuber and
00:02:27Brittany Ventium I make content that sometimes makes people mad at me but that's okay and yeah and I have the only fans where you
00:02:37Brian Atlascan see pictures of my cats like literally I made in the top 10 doing that nice nice okay I the whatever actually has and only fans two only fans.com whatever and it features Kiki
00:02:51Brian Atlasso maybe we could get a collaboration going with with Kiki and your cats do a little only chance collaboration yeah yeah way so just be oh rip okay Rip's in
00:03:01Brian Atlasthe chat for uh Britney's cat yeah all right he's in the chat um and age please um I'm in my 20s
00:03:11Brittany Ventiso 30. I'm 37. you're not 37 come on okay 38.
00:03:18Brian Atlasbut what's your actual age I'm in my 20s well 20 20 21 29. 20 enough isn't it hold on is it can I Google this
00:03:30Brian Atlaslet me see Brittany Bentley Brittany fancy age 26 years old oh you're born on Valentine's Day apparently according to the internet it could be wrong the internet's always 26
00:03:43Brian Atlasand board amount okay I like that new ID okay so uh Brittany venti is 30 years old uh
00:03:54Sean (Think Before You Sleep)36 37 what about you uh I'm Sean I run a YouTube channel called think before you sleep uh I am in my 30s 32.
00:04:06Brittany VentiI think everything um oh and just where did you guys say where you're from location oh I'm from New York but um I'm in Texas now okay so Britney is
00:04:16Brian Atlasin her 20s dating a 32 year old so uh oh no but actually no you said you were 38. so she's actually older than me yeah
00:04:26Brian Atlasit's like uh cougar kind of yeah it's 30 Mi is late 30s cougar territory are you a cougar confirm or deny um hold on a bug here nice that was like
00:04:38Brian Atlassome karate kid let me give you some Chopsticks that was some karate kid [ __ ] it was annoying did you actually get it yeah that was [ __ ] good [ __ ] reflexes okay good [ __ ] um okay I won't grow you guys too much on that
00:04:50Annago ahead is it my time yes okay can you hear me is that working bro hello okay hello hello okay my name's Anna uh I do YouTube I am a freelance artist for AAA
00:05:01Annagaming and I own my own business uh and I do uh cosplay and sell calendars on Indiegogo age I am in my 20s I do not give out information why don't you guys share your age
00:05:14Brian Atlasbecause I don't give out information that'll get me doxed why why would your age get you birth certificates birth certificate what there's all kinds of ways yeah please so yeah how about
00:05:25Annabut on my channel I say I'm nine that's it ongoing joke weird okay it's okay um I've never heard I don't think giving your age would it does because then they would know
00:05:38Annawhat year you're born and then they can verify information on you everyone's birth certificate is public so if anyone just pays the fee they can look it up so this is now an Internet safety guy I know so yeah just stuff like that don't
00:05:51Brian Atlasgive out but I mean couldn't couldn't you argue for example like uh like A-list celebrities are very much uh could potentially be subject to doxing
00:06:03Brittany Ventiyet it's public information they have security though I swear to God JLo turned 35 like three years in a row so it seems like some of them are like 36
00:06:15Brian Atlasnow yeah 37. but isn't some of the stuff public information it is right well no I mean your birthdays is
00:06:26Brittany Ventin't it like out there it might be a lot of things are out there are you talk to us live on air how is it doxing if it's screen share okay all right we're on
00:06:39Brian AtlasI mean it's already publicly available isn't it I don't think so no one's gotten it right yet you said Your name's Anne no Anna
00:06:49Brian AtlasI mean the 14. 28 no the reason I pushed back on the reason I push back on the age refusal is is you
00:06:59Brian Atlasneed to know how many eggs we have left oh that thing no no I'm in my 20s but it's just like okay if you're not prepared to share your age what well I mean I'll share other things but I just
00:07:10Brian Atlasdon't want something get me doxed but I mean wouldn't wouldn't I've never heard of someone getting doxed because you know
00:07:22Josietheir age it's a thing just stay off okay wait didn't Destiny's wife not say her age though when she was on here I don't recall I'm pretty sure maybe someone could like
00:07:34Josiebut she's in isn't she under immigration process or something because I know that it can if it gets out there if what gets out there that if that
00:07:46Josieinformation gets out there you're undergoing immigration let's say somebody decides to like still that identity somehow is just because you're going through the immigration like you're getting dogs
00:07:57Josieour our identity stolen for immigration purposes yeah I mean getting your information out there always has that risk in general too I know because I immigrated here so that's that was my main concern was that oh like if
00:08:09Annasomebody would steal that um that's an expensive green card you know so I don't mean to sound stupid but what is docs what is this like somebody gives out all your personal information so it's like
00:08:20Annayou're social where you live your phone number everything about you oh yeah so if you know what like swatting is so like somebody will call the cops and they'll be like oh this person at this
00:08:30Annaaddress is going to do this thing and the cops show up and yeah no like so it's people's dogs have gotten killed because the cops think that something's going so they'll just break into your
00:08:41Annahouse and try to stop whatever is bad happening people do bad things so I just try to have a second amendment I'm sorry did I irritate you depending on the status a little bit but if I'm sorry I
00:08:53Brian Atlasam just letting you guys know if like there's any like it is a little one I'm not sure if I buy the I don't want to be doxxed thing
00:09:03Brian Atlasbecause I I I don't think I don't think simply by virtue of stating an age not not you know I I don't think because
00:09:13Brian Atlasyou know you just go 91 92 93 94 95 96 it's such a small metric that someone could just like yeah but like using that logic we shouldn't put locks on our doors because they could just be broken right
00:09:25Brittany Ventiwhat it's like a deterrent it makes it harder it doesn't mean it'll stop people but yeah it's more about making things harder I I suppose but
00:09:36AnnaI I question if if that's the genuine reason no no it is so I already had to move because of problems so I just don't want to go through all that again
00:09:46Brian Atlasokay fair enough I I'll let it slide but it my my hesitation with this is because when when people are so unwilling to share such a basic biographical well you saw information
00:09:59TTS Reader[Music] very Chan donated 99 these no age beaches are annoying as hell P.S Maddie is bae always have her
00:10:10Brian Atlason Brian my my yo uh Benny Chan thank you man my concern is just if you're so unprepared to just provide like a basic biographical information a piece of
00:10:21Brian Atlasinformation about you are you going to be like having a good faith conversation with us and like being willing to share other you know engage in I will just don't ask me like my address you sell our IDs before the show though well you
00:10:34Annaguys showed me your Costco cards or whatever okay here I'll do something ask me a very personal question I'll answer it no we're going to move on go ahead what
00:10:43Lanaabout you hi I'm Lana I'm 39. and thank you very much for disclosing your age much appreciated you're welcome
00:10:52LanaI am an accountant I am also a mom and last but not least I do only fans okay so an accountant as an accountant both types of
00:11:03Jasmine Jafaraccountants go ahead what about you my name is Jasmine Jafar I am 28 and I am an only fans Creator as well as a licensed attorney
00:11:14Brian Atlaslicensed attorney okay rock and roll thank you for uh sharing Ridge what about you guess who's back in the [ __ ] house
00:11:25Byronique[Applause] I'm uh blessed to be in my dirty 30s I am 33 for about two more months okay uh
00:11:35ByroniqueI am a stand-up comedian I am a social media content creator and I am possibly in training to be a school bus driver with the little badass kid so what's up
00:11:46Brian Atlas[Laughter] let's [ __ ] go okay all right uh and you said you're two weeks away from 34. oh the two months oh two months I got two more months yeah it's all downhill
00:11:58Josieat 34. okay what about you I'm Josie I'm 27. I'm unprofessional cyclist I'm content creator digital Creator I do um computer stuff on the side cyber
00:12:10Brian Atlassecurity yeah stuff like that yeah in your pre-show messages to us you told us that you do some work for your social media only fans assistant and the it girl and
00:12:21Josiethat you answer DMS on behalf of only fans girls is that correct yeah and I also for guys who have a Tinder that kind of have a hard time to hit checks I've done that for like a few
00:12:32Josieguys and uh you get paid for that yeah and I answer like uh DMS on only fans for girls because they don't have time to do it so like I keep it interesting
00:12:44Brian Atlasyou know but I don't really feel like being in the in the front on my little to uh I'm a woman of God as you see so yeah okay uh and you two have only fans do you have only fans do you have only
00:12:55Brian Atlasfans oh no no no no okay uh so question for you guys do you guys have someone who messages on your behalf no I actually don't so I actually do all you do it all I'm not kidding because but
00:13:07Jasmine Jafarwould you admit it if you did have somebody that messages on your behalf would you admit to that probably not but I for me it's really important to run my patient away I feel good about and that I feel is ethical so I forego probably a
00:13:20Brian Atlaslot of income by going through it myself sure enough what about you no I definitely don't I do it myself okay yeah I've definitely heard that there's a lot of girls who have only fans who they have their own management and
00:13:32Brian Atlasthey'll have somebody typing messages it'll be a dude even a guy will be messaging with a dude did that exactly so um yeah I'm a musician as well I've done a lot of
00:13:44Josiecomputer work because I was immigrating here so from where Montreal real can can we hear the Canadian national
00:13:54Veronicaanthem no this is America Brian okay okay thank you yeah cool um what about you my name is Veronica
00:14:03VeronicaI'm 35 years old I'm a student and um my major is occupational therapist and I do modeling like photo shoots
00:14:14Madisonokay and I helped take care of my mom all right got it and what about you Madison my name is Madison I'm 18 years old I'm from San Diego California I'm a student at Santa
00:14:25Brian AtlasBarbara City College studying econ and accounting and I do the whatever podcast and I'm a host at a bar and roll okay cool um by the way we were gonna have Sophia
00:14:38Brian Atlaswho was on the show about two weeks ago uh she at 6 50 we aim to go live at seven she said she was going to be here soon she's
00:14:48Brian Atlasmessage it chat so I'm leaving this up to chat uh she messaged me just now at 7 15 saying she was here keep in mind we asked people to be here at 6 pm the show we tried to start the show at
00:15:01Brian Atlasseven uh do we do we go get her chat or is it I mean because the table's full we sat Madison down
00:15:11Brian Atlasso chat oh Nick is there can you pull up the uh by the way we are going to do a burping contest later on be sure to stay tuned for that um yeah I'm absolutely I'm not
00:15:24Brian Atlasdoing that okay this is going to be them too she wins by default I guess um okay Eric or excuse me Nick can you pull up the papa chat do you know how to do
00:15:35Brian Atlasthat you can get back on uh while we wait for that uh to see what the chat is saying some people are saying yes it looks like uh let me see
00:15:45Brian Atlaslet's go around the table once more so if you can please tell us what your current relationship status is are you single are you in a relationship uh
00:15:56Brian Atlasfriends with benefits talking stage situationship relationship married uh if you are single how long have you been single also what's your longest relationship go ahead it's so complicated yeah I know there's a lot
00:16:07Brittany Ventireally shouldn't be um we're in a relationship okay
00:16:14Sean (Think Before You Sleep)um how did you guys meet by the way on the internet with everybody else what's that on the internet like everybody else was it like did you slide into the DMS or so one of
00:16:24Sean (Think Before You Sleep)her viewers was a was a fan of mine oh sorry about that you're fine you're fine yeah send her a message and then she sent me a message on patreon and then we ignored each other for months
00:16:39Sean (Think Before You Sleep)okay
00:16:43Brittany Ventishe invited me onto a show and then two years later we went out yeah I didn't know what he looked like for like I think like a year and a half so I just
00:16:52Brian Atlasliked his content and messaged him and he came on my Show Gotcha okay how long have you guys been together almost a year yeah okay congrats oh almost anniversary
00:17:05Brian Atlascoming up good times good times and by the way guys uh think before you sleep it's a uh very good very good Channel recommend you go check it out the link for that is in the description hopefully he doesn't do a hit piece on this after his
00:17:18Sean (Think Before You Sleep)appearance here but um yeah what huh I've already people think I haven't faced off so I've done like a bunch of times now as long as you just don't do it on your main Channel everything well yeah no we've you've done some live streams I think on on
00:17:28Brian Atlasyour channel yeah like a lot yeah yeah but uh very cool okay so uh you guys met online was it uh well you already went into it so let's move on uh what about you I'm engaged
00:17:44Annayeah it's been like a month now of the engagement but we were uh and we just had our seven year anniversary on July 3rd oh congrats okay thank you okay
00:17:56Lanaum I'm currently single my longest relationship was seven years were you married um not legally not legally so basically
00:18:08Brian Atlaslike he's a common law marriage or we had a child together hmm okay so you have just one kid mm-hmm yeah so when did you guys split up or
00:18:23Lanayesterday uh no no no so um I'm basically like widowed like he passed away oh [ __ ] sorry to hear that yeah last year yeah okay
00:18:33Brian Atlasum and you how old's your kid uh she's five five years old okay cool cool uh and then have you been dating at all since he
00:18:44Lanapassed or not still kind of getting over things or not really like I I recently tried and um I don't know like
00:18:56Lanayou know make a little content with an old you know friend of mine but other than that um okay what about you I am single in my
00:19:07Brian Atlaslongest relationship is about four years okay four years how long have you been single two and a half years two and a half years you when did you start your only fans
00:19:21Jasmine Jafar20 21 I want to say like June or July probably June so it's been about two years were you still dating the guy when you had started your no we broke up like November of 2020
00:19:32Brian Atlasso and then when and you started your only fans in December no June of 2021. uh okay yeah so sure before I took the bar exam before you talk and you passed
00:19:44Brian Atlasthe bar yeah okay here in California no I don't want to say what state just for privacy reasons but sure um okay and so do you think has having
00:19:55Brian Atlasstarted only fans is that that has that had any negative impacts when it comes to finding a potential partner not at all not nothing nothing no negative because yeah just the kind of guys I like wouldn't have a problem
00:20:09Jasmine Jafarwith it the kind of guys you like wouldn't have a problem no any guy that I would have dated before so two years ago I didn't even have an Instagram nothing and I wouldn't have dated any guy at that point that would have had a
00:20:20Byroniqueproblem with me having an only fan so okay got it what about you well y'all I'm still single as a [ __ ] Pringle but
00:20:30Byroniqueyou know what I just met a real sexy sexy French last Mexican [ __ ] this past week you tell me so I'm hoping now to go
00:20:40Madisonsomewhere baby y'all pray for me you guys are talking yeah wait how long how long well we just met on Tuesday oh
00:20:50Byroniquenice well I hope it goes well supposed to have our first little date on Friday but he gonna come to my comedy show this Wednesday and then we're gonna go on a date Friday so I'm looking forward to
00:21:01Byroniquethis week y'all best of luck thank you what kind of date yeah where are you going well of course we gotta eat cause y'all see a [ __ ] I love to eat so uh we definitely going to eat and then after
00:21:14Byroniquethat um you know I don't know it's a surprise I told him I like spontaneous [ __ ] spontaneous so surprise me but we gonna eat that's first on the
00:21:25Josielist you better believe it please surprise me but don't f up you know yeah
00:21:31Josieall right yeah you um oh my God I I don't know if I'm divorced yet but uh divorce was married longest relationship
00:21:42Josieuh six seven years currently in a relationship yeah taken for two years was your marriage your longest relationship
00:21:57Josieum yeah divorce is um not fun for both parties Brian what yeah you say you say all the time that women have everything to gain out of a
00:22:10Josiedivorce but if you want to talk about it after a weekend I can share my experience she thinks she's getting divorced okay well I kind of missed sorry I was just dealing with him no I just I said
00:22:23Josiethat um I'm divorced I've just gone through a divorce I don't even know if it's final or finalized or not but but okay you brought up that
00:22:33Brian AtlasI've kind of not been in favor of marriage and one of the reasons one of the reasons I think that is because uh generally speaking uh the
00:22:44Brian Atlasnegative consequences of divorce tend to disproportionately impact men but uh so in your case it negatively impacted you and so far as I just want to say I I
00:22:54Josieagree I agree I agree with you with the marriage that it's the worst that can happen to
00:23:04Josieyou between a divorce or having a child by accident I would say you should be a lot more afraid of having a chick pregnant by accident and there are chicks out there that will
00:23:16Josietell you I'm on birth control just to have a baby because the biological clock is it's true it happened to two of my friends so and trust me uh between all the people that I know that I've gone
00:23:28Josiethrough the divorce versus the people that have to pay child support out of nowhere without being ready for it the ones who have had children are a lot in
00:23:40Josiethe hot water compared to the ones that are just divorced without children my God sorry I stutter so you're current but you said you're currently going through divorce correct I don't even know if I'm divorced yet I just didn't really look into it like I'm
00:23:53Brian Atlasin a new relationship right now it's doing really good who initiated divorce you were the guy him so you were served divorce papers yes okay who's the bread Breadwinner in
00:24:04Josiethat relationship him okay did he pay for your attorney's fees we just had one attorneys we just did a mediation with on a journey I I'm not my environment
00:24:15Brian Atlasmy parents didn't raise me to be a [ __ ] your parents so you mean like to go after how long were you married again seven okay I don't do stuff like that I
00:24:26Josiedon't I don't I don't like um how a woman kind of try to destroy guys going through a divorce like where I'm from it's more um in Canada it's brutal in
00:24:37Brian AtlasCanada now Montreal is the Quebec Quebec is not Canada Brian it literally is Canada but I'm not aware of this I'm waiting for
00:24:49Brian Atlasthe chat right now I'm not aware of like the beef that Montreal or whatever is there like a what is it secession what is it are they trying to secede are
00:25:01Josieyou sure you want to go down yes [ __ ] it let's talk about secession [Applause] the independence of Quebec versus the ones that want to be like Canada there's
00:25:12Brian Atlasteam Quebec and there's Team Canada okay then I'm not impressed by your performance okay um this is America like why are we talking about no but you you mentioned that well okay
00:25:24Brian Atlasin any case so you're in a two-year relationship correct yeah okay two years all right got it uh cool what about you
00:25:34Veronicaum I'm single I was dating someone but they recently stopped talking to me um and yeah my relationships never really last they only last like three months
00:25:44Byroniqueand that's it home I'm sorry sorry oh yeah I don't know you too 90 day that 90 day probation period
00:25:54Brian Atlasbabies like a job they came back that's why they have 90 Day Fiance probably right right all right got it sorry guys I'm trying to [ __ ] we got a person who's late
00:26:07Brian Atlaswho wants to still come be on the show so I'm texting on my phone trying to coordinate with that I mean I don't know what is that what the chat saying I think we're talking about her
00:26:19Brian Atlasat least earlier um I might I might send uh I might send Nick if you want let me let me just see if she's still [ __ ] here actually yeah Maddie if you can go do you have the access thing I'll
00:26:31Brittany Ventiget it see if you wanted to maximize your craft you would have had chat donate for her to right yeah they would I don't know if they want her that bad they would oh yeah they would have I feel
00:26:44Brian Atlasuh yeah if you want to she she's gonna have to sit in the back though no Mike I mean you want you could so she can just stop her with the doll huh no she'll be in this she'll be [ __ ] just sitting behind us like I don't know if it's even
00:26:56Byroniqueworth it didn't she drive from Bakersfield oh yeah oh and see that depends where she came from out here
00:27:06Brittany Ventioutside just let her sit it's a long time she came yeah so we came for what's the equivalent Bakersfield because I keep hearing Californian [ __ ] on it so like is that like the Bronx in New York
00:27:17Madisonor basically okay it's just like a nowhere there's nothing in Bakersfield yeah there's just like a size like middle of nowhere jack [ __ ] to do
00:27:40Brian Atlaskeep in mind she she's been on the show before she's late for that show what was she six was she good yeah people like her well we don't we don't have a microphone to give her really and
00:27:54Brian Atlasum trying to think you have a dunce hat to sit on the floor well yeah I think we she faces into the corner or something but look we told her hey be here at 6 p.m she texts me at 7 15 saying she's here
00:28:06Jasmine Jafarlike that's that's on you she didn't warn you she told me at 6 50. I'm almost there oh okay all of you showed up at like six pretty much except for you
00:28:18Annaknow but uh um let me I'll I'll see uh wait for Chad to donate then yeah let a super attempt decide yeah I mean that wouldn't be the deciding
00:28:29Brian Atlasfactor but what is the deciding factor the whatever verse they bring Sophia yo James would you date uh where's my hug son also think before you sleep I binged
00:28:40Brian Atlasyour content a while back it's fantastic thanks uh hey James thanks for the uh donation there uh yeah glad you enjoy his content um sorry guys I'm trying to get this figured out um Madison why don't you ask the panel question because
00:28:53Sean (Think Before You Sleep)I know you're dying too uh um I wanted to know what kind of content you made or like what do you I started out with manosphere content that I changed to anti-will content
00:29:04Sean (Think Before You Sleep)did you used to consider yourself mgtow yeah okay not like anymore or I mean looking at facts data and stuff like that seems like a lot of it as pretty was saying it but
00:29:16Sean (Think Before You Sleep)divorce seems to suck for both sides it seems like vet your partners properly um things like covid like kind of say like well if
00:29:28Sean (Think Before You Sleep)that's all I'm saying the podcast let me just say like there were a lot of laws that were ignored after a certain time period And so it's like if laws can be ignored there then laws don't really matter it's really just culture that
00:29:40Sean (Think Before You Sleep)matters so that changed my perspective on that quite a bit and so I started moving away from that and just focusing on culture and so that basically was that
00:29:50Sean (Think Before You Sleep)okay gotcha but yes yeah I mean it was a technically the shorter part of my time as a content creator that was like three years ago and did you previously consider yourself as a mgtow yeah okay
00:30:01Brian Atlasand but I I know that that can range in terms of how that sort of manifests itself that could be anywhere from someone who's like completely just will not even like be friends with women
00:30:12Brian Atlasall the way to not that bad a guy a guy who will like hook up with women but you know they won't cohabitate and they won't have like long-term relationships or get married to women so like where would you say when you were mgtow where
00:30:25Brian Atlasdid you fall I kind of just focused on my career and just focus on myself okay so you weren't really like dating or anything not really now gotcha okay um cool anything else Madison for the table
00:30:35Madisonwhile I deal with this Sofia situation yeah um how many of you are single well I feel like you don't really count you're like you're like you're like
00:30:46Josietalking to someone oh okay yeah I mean she said single single me single yeah I guess Madison can you go grab her yeah
00:30:59Brian AtlasI'll be back and then if you could set her set up a chair for um yeah she's gonna be in the back I guess you can kick it silently that's what it's gonna be that's what if she
00:31:11Brian Atlaswants to leave she can but we can't it's hard for us to accommodate somebody that's in almost an hour and a half late yeah you know why do you let
00:31:20TTS Readerher in because they want abandonmental donated 100 Lord Brandon decides that she should join in on the podcast also hi Madison and Brian yo Brandon good to
00:31:32Brian Atlassee you in the chat man much appreciated thank you um hey Nick can you boost the Audio I think it's a bit low can you make sure it's at 80. do you know how to do that yeah yeah perfect thank you man sorry guys a little [ __ ] here because [ __ ]
00:31:45Brittany Ventithis question has been looming over my head can I ask it sure so our topic of only fans came up and I think you said that um you wanted it to be ethical is
00:31:57Jasmine Jafarthat what you meant that somebody else managing it in your opinion wouldn't be ethical if somebody is speaking to people as you I don't think that's ethical I think why because somebody's pretending to be you and someone's paying to talk to you and they're
00:32:09Jasmine Jafartalking to someone else and as somebody who like does that I would also agree that it's not ethical but I don't care I like money so you're lying you're having someone else pretend to be you and this person thinks they're talking to you you
00:32:21Brittany Ventithink that's ethical they donate with the Assumption of like um that they will be able to talk to you get with you things like that because that's how a lot of guys are like even
00:32:33Jasmine Jafarif you give a hundred disclaimers right I I make sure not to facilitate parasocial relationships so I don't offer a girlfriend experience I don't do any of that I have a limit on how much content you can buy if somebody messages
00:32:44Josieme multiple times I'm like hey this is unhealthy this is erratic and I they do it anyway to be honest I don't have a lot of that and I have a lot of fans the DMS can get pretty toxic but that's what I'm here for so I think I weed them out what is it like what do you what what
00:32:57Josieare you seeing as someone who manages that uh my God okay let's say um sorry I'm not thinking thinking TOS right now so like I don't even know if
00:33:09Josieuh okay like the amount of guys that cheat on their wife like that it's sad
00:33:17Josiethey have kids or like I'm spending like my kids Christmas gifts on on you right now what the are you not answering stuff
00:33:28Josielike that it's like I can see that somebody who hasn't been used to see comments like that on social media or like just started on only fans it's it's hard right like reading that
00:33:40Josieand seeing like husbands cheating and everything I would say most of them don't really have like a father figure around so I would say that it's pretty traumatizing to think that there are men like that in the world to me like I have
00:33:53Josietwo amazing parents that are still together good father figure like my mom she was in California like she stayed at my house like last month so it's for me
00:34:03JosieI know they're just jerks like sorry like I know and I'm just like what the heck but you know for for
00:34:12Josiepeople who don't have a father figure it hits harder um psychologically are you talking about the women on only fans yeah that to have like men say certain
00:34:24Josiethings and they just don't necessarily some of them just don't um how could I explain that seriously it just hits them different I don't know I don't really know how to explain it it's just
00:34:37Jasmine Jafarit's sad so you're saying that's where you come in to talk to those men on their behalf because they don't feel comfortable not because they want to save time let's be honest yeah yeah no I understand that but that's I didn't know the relevance so because I'm I'm I guess
00:34:49JosieI'm good at handling it like back and forth I just run into the same Circle they're happy she's happy I'm happy so like yeah do they ever just reject their purchases if
00:35:01Josiethey're like I'm spending my kids uh College fun on this or 401ks wives savings mom's savings college kids
00:35:10Josiesavings yeah I've seen it meet me or my kids life is in jail party that's super unethical overall they do a lot of mental manipulation to try to get
00:35:22Lanastuff and I'm just like yeah do you see that I don't I would say it's the other way around I would say the the people who are chatting to these men they're manipulating the men yeah
00:35:34Josiepretending oh yeah it's totally Mutual I mean I wouldn't say that there is no like manipulation coming from the women's side I mean if anything it's a lot coming from the women's line that's the whole business model you know
00:35:46JosieI'm just saying it's not it's not very and there are a lot of guys that aren't doing that oh yeah the great people on there yeah it's hard to have like a healthy
00:35:57Brittany Ventirelationship and then also um like pursue that sort of girlfriend simulator relationship with someone for the men that do do that some of the girlfriends find out for their
00:36:08Jasmine Jafarboyfriends like some girls are like into it so I have a lot of couples that watch me together or like a guy whose girlfriend oh yeah there's definitely some cut Queens out there and such all right were you asking I don't know what
00:36:19Brittany Ventia hot Queen is compromising my relationship because okay I'm just asking I was uh saying rather the the people that are purchasing it
00:36:29Brittany Ventiit must be hard for them to maintain a happy relationship
00:36:40Lanaare gonna find a way to do it without only fans ever existing I mean the boundaries of a relationship should be easier but yeah determined by the two people in the relationship anything
00:36:50Lanaonline makes it easier yeah I think it makes it easier if a man provides enough he can get away with a lot maybe not for you but that's true that's right I've seen that happen I've seen
00:37:03Lanarelationships where the man is married and the wife knows that he has like another mistress that he fully takes care of something if she knows in relationships it's 2023 relationships are coming all different if she knows
00:37:15JosieI'm sorry it's wrong if she knows it's wrong that's just at least don't ask don't tell you know you think if the girl knows it's not a toxic no I
00:37:25Josiemean personally like if my boyfriend was to just go and like okay you know get with some random chick he doesn't even remember her name I'm like you know what that's on you I don't want to know don't
00:37:37Josietell me it's gonna hurt me and at the end of the day I know I I grew up around guys I kind of understand how them a man's man's brain is wired um it's not like women cheating women
00:37:50Brittany Venticheating versus men cheating it's two completely different two completely different things I think that's used too much as a past though because what if women were like yeah sorry babe I cheated on you
00:38:01Brittany Ventium why did you say sorry I cheated on you hold on but babe I cheated on you he had more money and you know as a woman I biologically have to go for resources so well go ahead bye bye [ __ ] but it doesn't get something it doesn't get a
00:38:13Brittany Ventipass in the same way I don't think either or acceptable I'm a little bit of a romantic I wish that we could bring back more romance honestly honestly if you would just not tell you and you
00:38:25Josiewould not find out somehow I guess I don't want to know and I don't want to find out like that I don't want to find out part that's what's important make sure I don't find out means make sure you don't get her
00:38:38Sean (Think Before You Sleep)pregnant make sure you don't come back with an STI stuff like that you know but sure a little manifest in some other way if you're an addict to one thing you're probably gonna add to multiple things and things like so it's like it's you may be thinking it's like this there's
00:38:51Sean (Think Before You Sleep)this direction over here where this person's going that you don't want to know about but it's probably manifesting other ways that are affecting you the person I would certainly want to know I I honestly I I don't know I'm not a guy
00:39:00Brian AtlasI haven't been one in a while so I I couldn't say but you used to be a man that's a joke Brian oh okay sorry
00:39:12Brian Atlascareful these days it's not a given anymore um well let's uh let's move on uh Brittany just one thing you said you mentioned that you think uh people should try to reintroduce some romance
00:39:23Brittany Ventiinto yeah I think it's been brought out of the life of everyone this whole thing of the uh terminal men versus women War has just sucked the romance at everything and everyone's just very low
00:39:35Brittany Ventitrust and it's very sad to see and I really wish that romance is brought back because as we've taken it out we have all these very undefined relationships and people are unhappy about it and having to and everyone's just having to
00:39:47Brian Atlassettle for so little because the bar is just so low and it's really sad for both genders can you clarify or maybe expand on what you mean though by by romance what what does that look like like two
00:39:59Brian Atlaspeople who genuinely like each other and want to commit to each other and are only into each other okay okay cause when I think of romance I tend to think of perhaps like romantic overtures
00:40:10Brittany Ventisuch as for example buying girl flowers and trees I suppose but it's the foundation that really matters too okay those are symptoms that comes after you have a good foundation right okay so
00:40:22Brian Atlasmore like actual genuine liking of the person versus perhaps the transaction the you know how I think things tend to be looked at almost in a transactional way where it's like what can this person
00:40:34Brittany Ventiprovides whether it's finances whether it's you know whatever it may be and that's not to say that men should therefore date ugly unattractive women that they're not attracted to and women should date men that they're not
00:40:46Brittany Ventiattracted to obviously for example if you want children there needs to be money there in order for you to raise the children so like looks and uh being able to provide for a family certainly
00:40:58Brittany Ventido matter but it has become a lot more transactional and I think that's what's given to the rise to things like only fans and why so many uh guys and girls are buying into it and sort of like this
00:41:10Brittany Ventiparasocial thing do you think people have only fans because there's not enough Romance I think that I think that um with the rise of relationships becoming more and more vague like at the beginning of the show
00:41:23Brittany Ventifor example he was like whether in your situation this or that it's like 10 different labels instead of just like dating or a committal boyfriend girlfriend Etc so if you think that was more clear people wouldn't get on only fans and
00:41:34Brittany Ventimake money I think that only fans is happening due to the fact that for example because most of the customers are guys even though there are some girls and so I think that they're using
00:41:44Brittany Ventithat as a replacement for sex in the same vein as porn and I don't think it's good for either party overall like Japan and it affects children too yeah Japan too what do you mean like porn effect
00:41:56Brian Atlaschildren are only fans well you you could also make the argument if men were getting Rum uh getting romance or getting sex from women that there would not be such a market for pornography I
00:42:08Jasmine Jafarmean like upwards of 90 of men watch porn upwards of 90 of men are single I mean a lot of normal people with relationships or jobs like normal people are on but that might become people watch porn but that might be contributing to why they're single
00:42:23Jasmine Jafarwhy would you work out why would you work on your career why would you draw that stuff as you can just well the majority of people that watch porn like that workout also they're not not working out because they're on only fantastic I don't think that's just because that one person like there's people that do it doesn't mean that
00:42:36Sean (Think Before You Sleep)they're also aren't like a lot of people who don't because pornography exists because it's there and so easily available so are you just saying that or is there some like statistical evidence for this is this just what you feel like I said you can look at societies
00:42:48Sean (Think Before You Sleep)like Japan where they have this this massive price there's a huge Point industry in Japan like every single part of the relationship is compartmentalized where people are going to like uh men can go script strip clubs women can go to like host clubs just like the male
00:43:00Jasmine Jafarversion of that um it just doesn't seem to be I think that's the reason that Japan is like that because I mean like Europe is super open with sex we're kind of uptight here in the US and like there's also seeing that countries that watch more porn
00:43:13Sean (Think Before You Sleep)you're seeing more of this is that mixed in with a lack of connection especially things like um without violating TOS people being less connected because of covet people getting on Discord conversations and having friends do that versus having actual real friends and okay people kind
00:43:26Sean (Think Before You Sleep)of compartmentalize so social media in general yeah okay so if you mix that in with lack of social skills which is kind of a pretty prevalent problem in Japan like you're getting a lot of that here so but do you think that like are you saying that you think the majority of
00:43:37Jasmine Jafarmen on only fans don't have social skills like are you saying that porn in particular only fans in particular is different than all these other forms of social media that's making people less connected you think only fans in porn in
00:43:50Sean (Think Before You Sleep)particular is I'm thinking it's all kind of mixed together as like maybe people should move a little bit more away from it you know Vlog maybe like if you if all of your friends are on Discord maybe check your life a little bit yeah okay I agree with you all your presence if
00:44:03Brittany Ventiyou're on the computer all of them if you're not a content creator and you're on the computer all day maybe maybe check yourself a little bit Yeah I have something to add on to that so I think that it's um all of it as well but it's
00:44:15Brittany Ventispecifically with only fans um as as the nature of any other pornography it's a replacement for sex so I think in that specific area is what it's replacing so instead of like maybe
00:44:26Brittany Ventigoing and trying to get a girlfriend or committal relationship uh they might turn to only fans and I think that's why it's become so popular too and versus other social media let's say Discord
00:44:37Jasmine Jafarthat would be more like a way of um replacing friendship I don't I don't know why people think it's like a replacement for sex I don't think if you if people watch and they're like oh I don't ever want to see a real woman
00:44:48Jasmine Jafarnaked I don't think well men get I don't know from it though yeah that can happen but like porn addiction in general is so misunderstood it's such a it's not even recognized by the ps15 the APA like it's
00:45:00Jasmine Jafarnot recognized for a reason and a lot of it also has to do they've done studies with moral and congruence so they've looked at men who've watched porn and they've compared men who think they have because a lot of it is just what you think you have a problem like do you
00:45:12Jasmine Jafarfeel like this is interfering with your daily activities Etc even unless you stopped for a long period of time no but they find that the men that think it does they also have negative attitudes towards porn they have some like moral opposition to it they're extra religious
00:45:24Jasmine Jafarthey find that those men don't actually even watch more porn than normal men who are living normal healthy lives but they have a like they are like sex is normal right and they're like oh my God I have an addiction because I'm not supposed to be doing this God is mad at me whatever
00:45:37Josieand then they because they're normal they turn to it again and again and again and they think that's an addiction when it's not some people are uncomfortable comfortable with social
00:45:48Josieinteractions in general where as corn and only fans kind of gives you that opportunity to have that fantasy without having to overcome that social anxiety
00:45:59Brittany Ventito go and talk to a woman go on a date and everything it's definitely easier I mean think about what's easier to hang out with a friend or messaging on Discord right so in that same sentiment um I think you have voice that you don't
00:46:11Brittany Ventithink that it's a replacement but if that's not the case then why when someone's horny they turn to porn otherwise what would they have to turn there's a lot of bad relationships that turn to porn like if your girlfriend
00:46:22Brittany Ventiisn't there with you in the moment a lot of like that night upwards of 90 of men watch porn and not 90 of men are single and also but that could also reflect on their relationship it could mean that they're not satisfied to some degree or
00:46:35Brittany Ventinot even that but you're making that up like you don't know not even that the woman's not good enough but like that maybe they're so used to porn that they need those options because that's one of the most common things you hear from guys when you ask them why do they even when I'm in relationships and I'm having
00:46:47Jasmine Jafara ton of sex I masturbate like I don't like sometimes you want your little alone time and it's in moderation I'm not saying it can't be a problem but I mean anything drinking in moderation moderation porn in moderation what do
00:46:59Lanayou guys think about do you think that if a guy is horny and he goes out and tries to find a woman in public that that's better than going online to go meet a woman for the first time and go out to just talk whatever yeah you're
00:47:11Lanajust going out to I think culture is just as terrible right so it's like what what is worse go online and beat it both are back a random person both are
00:47:22Jasmine Jafarbad but I mean some people benefit from it it's an industry so this is a free country you know why is it bad psychologically it's not bad for you why is it bad for like if people like what's wrong with hookup culture I don't
00:47:35Jasmine Jafarengage in it personally because I'm boring but I'm sexual diseases inability to hold a long-term relationship why would we it's a robin for everybody else like we don't want to do it why don't we don't we can just not
00:47:48Lanawe didn't say where to stop and just say we don't like it um it doesn't mean you can't do it is everybody or you don't like it for yourself if you stay home you're not going to get someone pregnant you're not going to get an STI there we go you're
00:47:59Brian Atlaseating you're just masturbating at home I mean as um he was saying kind of skirting TOS here I mean couldn't you say that we as a society in order to stop the spread of a certain disease we
00:48:11Brian Atlasactually enacted laws to prevent certain activities certain and mandates uh and you could I mean I'm not trying to [ __ ] compare hookups but but you could argue like for example
00:48:22Brian Atlaslike there there's an there's a rise in STDs okay what kind of STDs syphilis gonorrhea um I think something actually recently
00:48:33Brian Atlasin Texas uh women in Texas I forgot which city but uh in the past three or four years there's been like a hundred fifty percent fold increase in
00:48:45Jasmine Jafarsyphilis in women in some like Texas city or some [ __ ] so like STDs educate people on safe sex but at the end of the day it's their decision I have no interest in telling people yeah
00:48:57Jasmine Jafarthat's not kid like people be [ __ ] without condoms and [ __ ] yeah and that's their decision I'm not gonna sit here and be like stop the education on safe sex is not going to get someone to change that behavior so what is using like oh this is so wrong well also even
00:49:10Jasmine Jafarif you wear a condom you can still get herpes yeah you can but I'm saying these are we should tell people about the risk but if they want to engage in it I don't care enough to tell them just like what is on our business what about drug like
00:49:22Brian Atlaswhat about drug use what do you mean what about drug use well I mean you know we can in our personal lives we can say okay well drug use is bad but you can also say hmm maybe society-wide this isn't like the best thing maybe we
00:49:34Brian Atlasshould I'm not saying we should [ __ ] like pass laws to like bam hookup culture but like we could say we could say like okay this is not this is not good so you and you're doing this because you
00:49:46Jasmine Jafardon't want people to get more STDs and you feel like this is like a pertinent issue in society right now the rise of STDs and like we should just be really pushing well there's other factors why I think hookup culture is not great okay
00:49:57Brian Atlaswhy do you want the other factors well I mean because if it's just the rise I don't think men or women are happy with hookup culture who are you to say that they're not happy with other culture
00:50:08Brian Atlasthough how often do you hear it's either men who are incapable of finding a relationship or women who you'll hear from women I'm tired of these [ __ ] boys these guys they just want to [ __ ] like I think both men and women are desirous of
00:50:21Brian Atlaslong-term relationships and hook up culture is Contra uh it doesn't coincide with building long-term relationships for some people it does like I mean there are people who complain like that but there are a lot of people who don't
00:50:33Brian Atlaslike we're in a bubble there's a lot of online communities they're like this is terrible but I feel like average girls who go to college average guys who go to college will are just as likely to say oh hookup culture sucks
00:50:45Jasmine Jafarif everyone thinks that why why are we why do some people still choose to engage because everybody's so horny we need sex
00:50:57Josiey'all don't know that that's a part of being a healthy human you have to [ __ ] yeah but hello are you willing to die in order to achieve well obviously everybody
00:51:11Josieand they know the risk you're dying who's dying you're in a very vulnerable position when you open up your body like that to a stranger somebody like you
00:51:21Byroniquejust met I don't know I don't understand strangers though in the beginning
00:51:28Lanaare you saying you've never had a one-night stand no oh [ __ ] you missing out girl do you drink I haven't stopped the cat so well no they always come back sorry what
00:51:39Lanado you think the one I think like one of the main ingredients in a hookup is alcohol so what are they gonna do should we ban alcohol I don't know Brian what do you think I mean you could actually
00:51:50Josiemake an argument but go back the orange don't you
00:52:01Josiethat he could do things that you're not comfortable with or hurt you it's You're such in a vulnerable position with somebody you don't really know I don't know it freak it would freak me
00:52:11Josieout okay I can be comfortable like that like exactly or keep rolling girl I guess when I'm in the bathroom before that instant kicks and so yeah take a look
00:52:26Brittany Ventiwell you're funny single single men are one of the main money makers for only fans so there's that aspect too right yeah they're one of them but they're also but it's it's like obviously there
00:52:37Jasmine Jafarare some couples but it's a lot of a much a mass probably 80 I think you'd be surprised about the amount of women who don't care if their man watches porn or not only fans yeah and like I said
00:52:50Jasmine Jafarthere's definitely cut Queens there's people of every I don't think they're cut Queens I just think that they don't care like I wouldn't care if my boyfriend watched porn some people are neutral some people I'm not a cut question are against it well don't search for
00:53:03Jasmine Jafarstuff but you won't find anything if you don't know you don't know how clean you're saying they enjoy it or yeah the women that enjoy their men looking I don't think some women just women don't care like if you're allowed to look at women
00:53:15Brittany Ventionline I don't have to be the only woman you ever see ever I mean that's how you facilitate your relationships but the thing is I think that affects how committal a relationship is depending to what degree especially
00:53:27Brittany Ventiso how so because wouldn't it be more romantic if a guy only has eyes for you and only sees you and vice versa the girl only well you can be romantic yourself why do I have to I don't want to be romantic why do you have to be
00:53:39Brittany Ventiromantic because we all have to live in this culture so we should not be romantic and commit to each other so you feel better no romance facilitates really healthy relationships and happy families and not having you know for
00:53:52Brittany Ventiexample single mothers having to struggle and raise their kid it's hard my single mother raised me it's not easy can I ask you do you go through his phone no well there you go oh [ __ ] what because
00:54:04Brittany Ventiwhy do you not go through this film because you don't want to know because I want to go through her phone there you go based on trust exactly well I wouldn't date somebody that um consumes porn because I also don't so
00:54:16Brittany VentiI hold someone else to the same standards his phone and found a whole bunch of porno girls this happened like any other relationship
00:54:26Josieum you don't want to know no like anything yeah
00:54:34Brittany Ventioh no I'm pretty I'm pretty confident and that's one of the first things I find out when I date someone so I'm actually pretty confident I wouldn't find anything yeah when you first date someone yeah I know you ask them and you trust you just
00:54:46Brittany Ventiask for their laptop right away so if you guys were dating someone on the first date and you had some sort of requirement and deal breaker and you voiced that and they lie to you I'm pretty sure if you found out they lied that you would probably break up with
00:54:57Sean (Think Before You Sleep)them too how are you finding out or not finding out are you checking what are you doing are you with them 24 7. there's no Chris Rock show people don't like if you're trying to hide your porn from your girls they don't find it in
00:55:09Sean (Think Before You Sleep)Fort Knox they find it in the BCR so if anybody's lying in a relationship
00:55:24LanaI don't think porn is responsible for single mothers I don't got so at all just um what I'm trying to say it's the lack of commitment and therefore the lack of romance that's really prevalent nowadays
00:55:37Josiewhich is why we have all these vague relationships honestly I wouldn't like to find out if my boyfriend was watching corn I I wouldn't like it so I don't go through his phone because I don't want to know but you know it probably is okay with it like what's stopping you from like just saying hey I'm not comfortable
00:55:51Byroniquewith this this is my relationship boundary that's fine but you can't make it all of our relationships no I do get where you come from because if all of us women would just keep our [ __ ] last clothes you know what I'm
00:56:04Byroniquesaying and wait till marriage we wouldn't be in this whole [ __ ] [ __ ] show of a you didn't feel me every the romance would have stayed and everything but we horny I keep telling y'all we need sex so we can't just wait for somebody to marry us to give it up [ __ ]
00:56:17Brittany Ventitake forever you beating [ __ ] around and died you know some women really are tanking the Fuji stock though like and it's making harder for all of us
00:56:28Josiehappy relationship congrats very romantic I mean I'd be terribly hurt if I would find out that my boyfriend like had a one night stand with one chick but for me I'm just but then why accept it I
00:56:40Josiedon't want to know honestly I'd rather not know because it's gonna hurt me it's gonna hurt my feelings yeah you're okay with not knowing even though like it could possibly be true
00:56:49Josiewouldn't you want to break up I mean I don't think he does so if I have any reason to believe then that means I would find out that means you left up
00:57:01Josieyou know it's like don't make sure I don't find out that's it you know I don't know I know it's weird but that's that's just me you just rather not know I know it's weird in all this
00:57:12Brittany Ventiwork in this relationship and you know just don't find out because guys hookup guys hook up women are emotional most of the time but then would you get a pass if you cheated up because the guy
00:57:25Brittany Ventihad more money and you're a woman therefore you need resources would that get a path no because it's totally different men and women are different but women according to biology using the same logic women go for the resources for their children everything so if a
00:57:38Josiewoman cheated for the same reason of resources it wouldn't get that passed so of course not because you go further resources therefore you go for their relationship not for the one night stand