03:44:47Brian Atlasand some people end up with people closer to their age some people end up with people there's a bit more of an age Gap so um yeah I don't know um if but okay thank you man appreciate it I'll what was the pose he wanted I'll I'll
03:45:00Carlyhave her do it when she when she comes back Captain Morgan pose oh I I think I know what it is I think oh like the like
03:45:08Carlyon the liquor with yeah with chair like that yeah she's got that yeah so um but I mean you could actually make the
03:45:20Brian Atlasargument that there's a lot more women who are I mean these Financial relationships
03:45:29Brian Atlasthere's definitely a uh the men are will I don't know it's hard to say cuz I believe in accountability the men they're they're spending all this money
03:45:41Brian Atlason women oftentimes getting very little in return mhm um they're consensually doing it mhm uh there may be some degree
03:45:51Brian Atlasof manipulation involved scamming and whatnot like I mean we've we've like yeah there's definit I do think there is some manipulation in yeah but I mean I think there's a quite a a fair amount of
03:46:03Carly (nursing)women who are doing that sort of [ __ ] yeah I mean I would say like who are hustling dudes hustling yeah and I would agree but not as many as you would think I
03:46:13Brian Atlasmean not nearly as many I mean like what percentage of women do you think are doing that oh I don't know but I think it's not that I would say
03:46:24Carly (nursing)though I would say that there's probably I mean there's obviously scales to it you have what city you're into in Las Vegas yeah I mean [ __ ] Santa
03:46:35Brian Atlasrosao Sharon Stone but I would say actually though that there's scales to it for example like how many women are like fleecing
03:46:47Brian Atlasmen out of their like serious [ __ ] money that's probably pretty small however like on a on a more lower scale you have women who are engaging in like
03:46:58Brian Atlasfoodie calls where they go on a date with a guy just to get a free meal or a free experience yeah they did a study on that I think they did a study on that and they found it was like onethird of
03:47:09Carly (nursing)women have done the foodie call yeah and actually yeah because that's that's accessible to just like any any girl on Tinder no I agree with that I'm not for
03:47:20Brian Atlasthat at all we we've had girls on the show like normal 19-year-old girls college girls openly admit one 1,000 followers on Instagram just regular
03:47:31Brian Atlasrun-ofthe-mill college girls yeah I have a dude in my phone as Uber I have a dude in my phone as dinner like there's
03:47:41Emilythat's shitty that's crazy we've it's pretty common I Mean Girls then abusing I think their femininity and and using guys for the wrong reasons no and and and I'm not
03:47:53Carly (nursing)okay with that I I'm what I was talking about was like bigger than that I mean I don't I'm not for that I mean I I I don't like to use guys you know that but you you admit to have done having done
03:48:04Carly (nursing)it older men with millions of dollars you can't compare that I mean plus they accountability you're still doing
03:48:12Carly (nursing)it no how you ad to to like using men uh no I admitted to having a pay Pig who knows that he's my pay pig that it's pretty degrading he he wants to be
03:48:24Carly (nursing)degraded he pays for it that's what he pays for but you could argue that you're taking advantage a distinction between sex work in dating than in real life dating like what I'm doing is essentially sex work I mean this guy
03:48:37Lauren Rosesknows what he is I always wanted to know the psychology of of a pay just just out of curiosity like I tried to look up you know out of curiosity the dominatrix thing I tried to look it up but I don't have the I'm very I don't think I have
03:48:49Carly (nursing)the type but I was curious about it he came to me yeah they like ask him like that I have I never like felt like I used him for anything like he has come
03:49:01Carly (nursing)to me the entire time what you're talking about is women who were on Tinder with men their own age and their own socioeconomic well I'm talking about both I'm talking about both yeah but there's a huge distinction between the
03:49:14Lauren Rosestwo I mean there's sex work and then there's dating like one time when I was at the you know what or is it is it sex work if it it is with the with the Domin
03:49:25Brian AtlasI mean I mean it's an umbrella term these days I'm just but I I don't get why on one hand you don't seem to object to like these men are just sending you money cuz I you're saying you're not
03:49:37Carly (nursing)using him for anything but you are using him for his money say if he didn't have money you wouldn't be with him let's use that argument then I'm not with him but okay been with him I'm not with I've never been with him I I never met wait who who are we talking about hold on but you
03:49:50Brian Atlassaid that the men consent to just sending you money and getting and getting nothing or little in return couldn't you make that same exact AR hold on let me finish couldn't you make that same exact argument about a woman
03:50:01Carly (nursing)who's 21 she's engaging in a consensual relationship with say a guy who's 35 well one thing is a why is it that because one's a profession and one is is
03:50:12Brian Atlasa service and one's not a service like what I provided is a service it's crazy to me like a lot of these girls would rather see an 18-year-old do only fans and do porn than being a loving caring relationship with a guy who's 10 years
03:50:24Brian Atlasor senior like that's to me it's [ __ ] blows my mind that so many women object to like age Gap relationships oh he's 10 years older than you even though you're an adult and you can join the military and go get [ __ ] blasted whatever it
03:50:36Brian Atlasis you can sign legally binding contracts you can get six figures of college debt but if you're in a consensual loving relationship with someone who 10 years older than you then
03:50:46Carly (nursing)it's a is I think 10 years is fine I was more concerned I I I said 50 and 18 that's why I was like well that's a little weird but like 10 years is fine like I have no issue with 10 years I mean you're kind of walking back what
03:50:58Brian Atlasyou said but I'm pretty sure ear no I didn't I said about earlier in the conversation I'm sure if you you would have had an issue between 18 and 28 no I specifically said 18 and 35 how about
03:51:09Brian Atlasthat no really no I never said that I I mean run the footage but you said okay well there was a virgin component too you were like oh yeah well that's completely different so I feel like
03:51:21Carly (nursing)we're we're talking about so many different things at once I'm talking about like my work as a like dominatrix whatever you want to call it versus like people dating and the two are just
03:51:32Carly (nursing)simply not comparable maybe you think they are but I mean someone who's experienced and both of these things are not comparable one's personal one one's work I mean it's just shocking to me
03:51:44Brian Atlasthough how many people are ready to defend like a woman at 18 starting and only fans but like if she's I don't defend that I never did well okay maybe not you but like it's fine if a woman at 18 starts an only fans but if she wants
03:51:56Carly (nursing)to date a guy who's 30 oh my God no I I I don't I mean as long as the age of consent is there I just think it's when a 50-year-old wants to [ __ ] a 18-year-old virgin sorry for the f
03:52:11Carly (nursing)word okay I mean yeah I don't know that's like it or just like want to be with a 18 20-year-old that that's like a huge difference hot take I I mean hot
03:52:20Brian Atlastake here um while I mean I don't to me it makes sense like a 50-year-old dating a
03:52:32Brian Atlas20-year-old okay I mean why cuz that 50y old men if he can get like here's the thing very few 50-year-old men as we just I mean we went around the table on this like most
03:52:43Brian Atlas50-year-old men are not going to be attractive to a woman who's 20 or 21 I mean if you're but if he can if he's still in good shape whatever he's wealthy and he can secure a relationship
03:52:55Morganwith someone younger go for it I yeah for me it's not really like attraction I feel like older guys like 50 sometimes are actually really attractive to me I think it's more just like when I'm 50
03:53:07Brian Atlasthey're like about to die possibly well yeah obviously like yeah but yeah sure no I get what you're saying like let's say long-term relationship like I it actually is a
03:53:17Brian Atlasfairly good argument like for a woman who's like wants a serious long-term relationship wants marriage like if you're 21 and you're thinking about dating a
03:53:28Brian Atlas50-year-old by the and if you want to have kids like he could be like obviously I I I think it's totally legit if you want to date someone around your
03:53:38Brian Atlasage range yeah so that you guys can grow together and you know like that that's actually probably a very strong argument to be made but like yeah if that's what
03:53:50Carly (nursing)both the people want age that always creeped me out when I would especially when I was a stripper and whatnot like when I would you know have sugar daddies
03:54:00Carly (nursing)who had daughters my age I was like yeah I think that's very fetishy and weird disgusting yeah um I mean obviously I got the money and it was fine like at the end of the day but like I would never dated them or taking them
03:54:12Arielseriously like it's gross yeah but you're still condoning their behavior you know by entertaining them would you not say so I mean sure but like if it's not me it would be somebody else and I I'm trying to get paid so
03:54:24Carly (nursing)you're just going to deny accountability and be like if it wasn't deny accountability I just said that I think it's gross and I still got paid it's gross but fine because you got
03:54:35Arielpaid 100% yeah 100% how is that fine because I so you you are experiencing something that you feel is gross but it's okay because you got money from it
03:54:44Arielwhat kind of uh fulfillment does that bring you my bank account like what do you mean what kind of I think money is way more fulfilling
03:54:55Arielwhen it's hard earned let's just say that oh oh so you feel like sex work isn't a hardworking industry I'm not saying it's a not a hardworking industry I just think it's a sad industry I'm not
03:55:08Carly (nursing)going to lie and that's fine I mean you could feel that way but you just said right now all like you feel like money is better like what you feel better when you earn it and you like work hard for it I mean I worked very hard for my for
03:55:18Arielmy money when I was dancing so maybe okay maybe hard earn was a was
03:55:25Carly (nursing)the wrong term but maybe get that money maybe getting that money no you can feel disgusted by it and that's fine but I
03:55:35Carly (nursing)didn't do it for you I did it for me you you said that I feel like no I'm saying that like the guys who were into like yeah they're gross but I'm I'm not
03:55:46ArielI'm fine with what I did you're just going to take advantage of them exactly like what the [ __ ] so but you're condoning their terrible Behavior so then they go and continue to do it and you are denying accountability by saying
03:55:58Arielthat they're going to go do it anyway so you're just going to make the problem basically advocating for the I am yeah and I think that if you're like it's so weird you're advocating for something that you think is gross 100%
03:56:10Carlyis that what you're saying yeah basically yeah I me because it gives you money it's gross for them it's not gross for me yes it is but it is still for you it's gross for them it's still benting off of this sets back everybody not just you you are affecting everybody even
03:56:24Carlypeople who aren't participating in the same culture it it sets back every woman around you whether you think it does or not I mean Cry me a [ __ ] River I don't care that's your response so you
03:56:35Carly (nursing)yeah yeah I mean honestly I mean I don't know I mean I I don't know like what you like like you mean to feel bad that these guys but it sounds like you have a low moral standing and to be completely
03:56:48Morganhonest with you this isn't a very intelligent take from you yeah yeah okay feel that way then and you're entitled to your opinion and so are you
03:56:58Morganmhm um I'll just say about a year into moving to Los Angeles I was at a Super Bowl party and a guy like definitely
03:57:08Morganabove 50 maybe 55 or so just sat next to me and just started counting hundreds and he was like so what's it going to be weekly um so yeah they do make it really easy but yeah then I didn't I just said I just walked away actually I didn't say
03:57:21Lauren Rosesanything cuz I was like I was like 19 I think and I just walked away but um yeah I mean I don't know I think that whatever it definitely goes both ways whatever intention that you put out there it will come back like in a sense where if you're like hey this person's
03:57:33Lauren Roseshurting they went through a divorce I'm going to be there for them I'm going to see them but I'm going to genuinely see them like I want to be right there but then if if there is that like iniquity I
03:57:43Lauren Rosesguess it it really like like I want to get over on on them what could happen is that could happen come around in your life somewhere and you'll be like how did that happen I you know and I think
03:57:54Carly (nursing)just intention I think if you put but if they come to me how is that inequitable I you're allowing to happen you guys we're talking about the but I was I was young I was
03:58:07Emilyin you allowed the sex work industry to prey into you as a young girl to then continue down the path which enabled you to later in your life become a stripper instead ofer in my life become a
03:58:18Carly (nursing)stripper I I was a stripper when I was 18 to 20 years which is sad which is s that's what I'm getting at is like you were years old well that's that's why I hope that the sex work industry becomes
03:58:30Lauren Rosesmore holistic over time I hope in the next 10 to 15 years it really takes a a change and and and starts things start happening where people are like oh yeah holistic sex spiritual sexuality I don't
03:58:42Emilyagree with that at all because how are you going to take an industry of men paying women to sleep with them and make it this healing experience when in reality I think our society more than anything lacks God obviously that's in
03:58:54Emilymy personal opinion being a Christian I mean there's so many people that are just so morally lost where you said you started stripping when you were 18 years old I don't think any woman should ever look to that and be like this is super
03:59:05Emilyglorifying in society and this is the right thing for me to do and it makes me sad that women in our society are lied to so much that they turn to only fans they turn to selling their bodies on the internet for the male gays profiting off
03:59:18Emilyof that and continuing not only it lowers their self-esteem it's women mentally are becoming unhealth unhealthier and higher body counts and then less desirable as life goes on to where you're essentially women are
03:59:31Carly (nursing)ruining their lives I've never had an issue getting a boyfriend so I don't know what you mean by less desirable I've had this is my first year being single I've been having had a boyfriend the entire time so I don't know what you're talking about what's the quality
03:59:42Carly (nursing)of the men you're doing say what what is the high value are you seeking after what's your um definition of of see see I don't prescribed to that high value thing I mean I just like someone that I
03:59:55Emilyget along with but don't you think like back to to the dating scale that there is something as a high value women that there are women that are more valuable in the dating sphere so then there's
04:00:04Carly (nursing)also men that are more valuable I mean I I guess but not not person to person I mean in general people tend to date Brandon Ms donated
04:00:15TTS Donations$100 the only time I would ever pay for someone like you is donating a grand for Brian to kick you off the show for this sad mindset you're promoting a disgusting lifestyle oh wow they're
04:00:27Carly (nursing)going in I never promoted it I'm literally just talking about my experience I never said that this was the right choice I said that I'm okay with it that I'm not ashamed of what I've done and that's pretty much like
04:00:39Carly (nursing)where I left it well you were promoting older men fetish fetishes how fetishizing women who are the age of their children because I took the money
04:00:50Carly (nursing)no I situation I literally said that I thought it was gross but I took the money like what like what does that have
04:00:58Arielto you are allowing the behavior it's like a bouncer at the bar being like Oh I'm not supposed to let you in but you're going to pay me but I'm going to
04:01:08Ariellet you in but it's not right but that's what I was there for cuz you're conding for prizing younger women that are the age of their children acknowledging it was
04:01:20Carlyliterally my job like you didn't have to be there if you didn't want have that you didn't have to be a stripper and on top of that you didn't have to start an
04:01:31Emilyoutside of work relationship with this man where it was a monetary gain for you it just if you had an 18-year-old girl sitting in front of you and asking hey I want to get into the stripping
04:01:43Carly (nursing)industry because I really am trying to chase that bag would you encourage her to do that honestly at this point no only because ever since Co happened happened the industry has totally
04:01:55Carly (nursing)changed and in what way in a good way or a bad way in a bad way um the money is not like how it used to be um a lot of girls are so if the money was how it used to
04:02:07Arielbe okay can I share my experience of my first time at a SHP Club please as a what strip club strip club let as a as a patron right you came as a patron yeah yeah okay so you were a stripper no I
04:02:19Brian Atlaswas not ster one I was Wonder we went for her birthday after wait before before you go into that really quick um valde you were gone when he um when he said this he wants you to do a Captain Morgan pose oh yeah and then tell us
04:02:33Carlyabout the strip club situation what is it Captain Morgan pose no stand put your foot up on the chair on the chair like you're conquering America right now put your foot on the chair yeah there we go perfect yeah all right there you go thank you
04:02:46Arielthank you um your strip club experience okay first off I will say it was a lot of fun I'm not going to see her be like oh my God I'm sitting there oh I'm so sorry first of all I would like to point out that I
04:02:59Arielwas not sitting there being like Oh my God this is terrible well I was a little bit but I mean I did have a good time I did have fun but what I observed is
04:03:10Arielthat we came and we sat down and there were girls in the booth or section or whatever they're really nice and stuff and we're having conversations and then as soon as the money comes out they're just
04:03:21Ariellike in your face like you know how a strip club is and then after the money is all on the floor they just immediately go and pick up the money and
04:03:29Arielit's just it's almost like a robotic response and it's really sad to see that behavior for that money and then you after you do that you literally go on
04:03:41Arielthe floor and you pick up the money and I cannot see how that can be empowering fulfilling make you feel good about yourself because you are selling your body and that cannot feel good I can
04:03:53Carly (nursing)never I can never imagine myself doing that and feeling okay with myself well girl that's fine you don't have to do that like I'm not telling you that you should do that that you like that's fine
04:04:05Arielbut you I respect that no I I respect how you feel 100% that's okay but you were saying that if a young a young girl came up to you and ask do you think this is worth the money you said if the money
04:04:17Carly (nursing)was like how it was before Co you would say yes yeah if she if that's what she wanted to do yes I don't think that anyone anybody should do anything that they feel uncomfortable with like the
04:04:30Carly (nursing)way that you described it I would never want you to do that like that would be horrible but also the industry completely lies it's sometimes some girls are cut out for it some aren't and that's fine cut out psychologically
04:04:42Carlypsychologically if you look at it from a purely scientific perspective a woman who sorry a woman
04:04:51Carlywho is um willing to or has convinced themselves that those things are fulfilling there is something fundamentally incorrect there is I I don't know a better word to use other
04:05:03Carlythan damage or trauma or something that induces that in them and I if you disagree with me it's like it's I'm just telling you it's purely scientific that you can look at any study that just
04:05:14Emilylet's say promiscuity is a general term it it signifies being a stripper isn't being promiscuous no 18-year-old wakes up one day and says I'm going to take off my clothes and be a stripper for
04:05:25Emilymoney like that's just not reality and and it is a psychological fact that there is damage there and Trauma that these women who are doing this it feels like a last resort option for a lot of women because they have nothing else
04:05:38Emilythat they feel like that they can fall back on and then even tying this to trafficking even like there's so the it is a gateway going what you said I didn't I'm sorry I'm just saying how is
04:05:50Carly (nursing)I I really feel you guys and I see and I I hear you like you you're coming from a certain point of view but like it's it's really ignorant like you guys really don't know anything about women who do sex work well maybe you you do Ariel you
04:06:03Unknown (23)just were called ignorant would you like to respond to that I feel oh yeah we're not being ignorant we're just considering your opinions cuz you keep saying oh I was disgusted but those were the best days of my life I'm so glad I
04:06:14Arielgot over it but I like like you're just like kind of reiterating your arguments so we're justy pretty much every woman that I've met in that does sex work either they acknowledge that it's wrong
04:06:28Lauren Rosesand they want to stop or they are they have a lot of trauma they have a lot of trauma that they need to address I think that going back to what you said when you said oh if an 18-year-old said hey I'm going to
04:06:41Lauren Rosesget this bag if like that was like I can't have kids but if I did and that was my 18-year-old and I said I would say get the bag like so are you only doing it for the money do you care about
04:06:53Lauren Rosesthese men in their emotional state when you're with them like do you care like genuinely about them do you care about these relationships that you build because the relationships that you have you're going to learn how to discard people and when you learn how to discard people you're not going to have good
04:07:04Lauren Rosesrelationships in your life so if you are going to be a dancer do you genuinely care about people and want to maybe make connections and like have a good like that it's of relationship or are you just trying to learn how to discard and
04:07:16Carly (nursing)end people that's good respon because you're actually considering her value and not just say it's all for the money I was a stripper and I like to pole dance I like putting on a performance I mean it was a huge part of my life I
04:07:28Carly (nursing)mean like I I love the glamour I loved like all like all aspects of it yeah every once in a while I get a gross 50-year-old guy that I had to [ __ ] give a lap dance to but it wasn't that
04:07:40Carlybig of a [ __ ] deal because it was worth it at the end of the day you can enjoy pole dancing without stripping we we know people who I enjoyed both like what do you mean we we know people who do po dancing as a as a
04:07:52Carly (nursing)dance form like an art like you practice in a studio not money I learned in the strip club and I like the money aspect like what do you mean I I literally used to get high off of performing on stage
04:08:02Carly (nursing)because getting the money con and the performance aspect like what do you mean like what I there would be like I worked in some of the biggest clubs in the country there's a lot of a lot of other
04:08:13Carly (nursing)ways to perform everything you're saying is getting more and more concerning what psychologically wait yall just like hella judgmental and whatever that's
04:08:23Brian Atlasfine that is fine fine I'm okay with it it's fine it's fine it's fine fine f totally fine I'll say y are like you're way younger than me like you
04:08:35Arieldon't even know what you're talking about half the time I'll okay so now because we are younger than you we don't know what we're talking about my little brother's age that wait okay I I hold on let me come in
04:08:45Brian Atlashere really quick uh you had mentioned at one point because I think it came into I forgot precisely what the wording was but you said that you don't have any
04:08:56Brian Atlastrouble finding boyfriends now perhaps that's congratulations good for you um you don't think there like it does limit your dating pool though that you're
04:09:07Carly (nursing)involved in sex work do you not agree I'm not even involved anymore but yes I mean even that you were involved and you know what I'm sure it does but in a way it kind of it it um filters out like the
04:09:18Carly (nursing)[ __ ] I would never want to be with a guy that cares about that or cares about body count like and I've never had a guy really care that much about any of it see don't you think those guys maybe care more about that like they care
04:09:31Emilyabout it because they know how much it matters no I'm saying that they don't care like I've never had a guy care about that do you want kids um not sure do you want to get married do you want
04:09:42Brian Atlasto have a life partner um yeah I don't know maybe I yeah I don't know yet cuz I mean I I can speak a bit from the guys perspective like there are definitely guys out there that
04:09:54Brian Atlaswhen it comes to casual sex or friends with benefits maybe even a relationship maybe they might entertain a girl with you know past like that but I think when it comes to marriage and
04:10:06Carly (nursing)kids a lot of men are going to take pause with someone who's been involved with that sort of thing I've ended both of my relationships it was me that that ended it like I've never like had an issue like I could have honestly like I
04:10:18Carly (nursing)could have been married with kids right now but I chose not to can I ask why you ended them um honestly that's I I have certain people watching this I don't really want
04:10:30Brian Atlasto go into that well let's uh really quick just I'm going to try to move things here along a little bit just to finally last thing on the whole uh one sec one sec guys
04:10:41Brian Atlasum on the whole virgin age Gap thing I just last thing it for men it comes down to hardwired attraction traits it's rooted in biology and evolution it
04:10:52Brian Atlasreally ultimately comes down to fertility there's a limited fertility window that women have so men are going to skew towards being attracted to more younger women younger women are more
04:11:04Brian Atlasfertile it's hardwired attraction triggers attraction traits in the same way that women are attracted to tall men that's a hardwired Evolution thing because men who are you're do you disagree about the tall
04:11:17Brian Atlasthing you're kind of shaking your head I don't know if you just moving but it look to burp oh okay never mind then well in the same way that women like tall men it's hardwired
04:11:27Brian Atlasattraction trigger because a a guy who's tall a guy who's physically large or muscular whatever it may be he's more capable of protecting you so that's one of the reasons why women are attracted
04:11:39Carly (nursing)to tall men tall large men evolutionary psychology thing that's I mean that's like no I mean that just well let's move on from that the wait what oh psychology is a theory so science is a The
04:11:51Carly (nursing)evolutionary psychology is yeah there's certain theories about how what he was talking about that that's a theory like it's not we are literally put on this Earth to do one thing and it is to make
04:12:01Morganmore of us that is our biology gains to get gains exactly go to the gym words I didn't say that wasn't a thing okay I'll say um I'm like basically only attracted
04:12:12Arielto men that are older than me so I think there is like something maybe biological there for sure I I mean I attracted to a big tall man because I feel like he can protect me it's that simple like
04:12:25Brian Atlasbiologically built in we were attracted to different people and that makes sense yeah boyfriend's older than me bigger than me etc etc yeah and okay so we won't linger too long on that but we
04:12:38Brian Atlasmight have we might have a video that's semi- related to it that can really hammer it home uh body count we were we've been talking about body count all night should body count matter you said
04:12:47Brian Atlasno yes yes absolutely um for a guy or or for woman or here here here's a better question do you object to men caring about women's body count no I I don't no
04:12:59MorganI don't object to that um I think it's 100% couple by couple like person by person person yeah it matters Point Blank period I don't object okay um just curious what's everyone's body count I
04:13:11Brian Atlasthink you said zero right if I recall I'm a virgin I don't know if you had to like like range
04:13:20Brian Atlas30 40 like 30 yeah 30 between 30 40 maybe maybe 50 no sometime maybe 60 if you're count the maybe like 4,000 how
04:13:31Brian Atlasabout that 4,000 does that make you happy hold on it's over 9,000 exactly okay um body count I've been in the business a long time I what do you think what do you think
04:13:45CarlyI can only remember do the math the I know I don't I can only remember the eight that had a terrible would you say
04:13:54Lauren Rosesit's like triple digits or less than that trip like more than 100 yeah I mean I would I would think so after all those
04:14:03Lauren Rosesyou know years I think I think that know more than 100 yeah more than a thousand I don't I don't know about that I don't I don't think a I don't think that I when I was younger
04:14:15Lauren RosesI didn't see as many people because I think my mentality was more the survival but now that I have gotten into the spiritual sexuality over the past two
04:14:26Lauren Rosesyears I have seen more and I have seen more seeking that so seen more men yes it's it's about doubled since I started the spiritual sexuality before I think it was just I was just grabbing I I
04:14:38Lauren Rosesdidn't know I I don't know um I think that the but that's why I really like that because I'm going to continue going to these retre wait at what age did you
04:14:48Brian Atlasfirst turn a trick is that the terminology have a John I don't know what it's called my first uh experience
04:14:55Lauren Rosesgoing uh one of those relation
04:14:59Lauren Rosesrelationships yeah those those I um I was 21 21 and I remember I was a dancer
04:15:11Lauren Rosesand I remember it was very when a men called me pretty I I never got that younger and this was before I had plastic surgery so it was a very big thing for me and here I'm 21 I'm like
04:15:21Lauren RosesI'm pretty like you think I'm pretty like great and so I think that it took so little to get me out of the club until you know the time where there was something that happened and that's when
04:15:32Lauren RosesI was like like these guys can have certain intentions and you got to be in the right mental state and I'd been drinking I'd you know used substances
04:15:41Lauren Rosesand and then finally when I got into the work at the uh the uh brothel um that's when things started to kind of get
04:15:52Lauren Rosesbetter for me like I started to see things in a different way and not in survival it was like oh this is a vacation for them like this is a vac and husbands and Wives come to see me I see a lot of them and many are interested in
04:16:04Lauren Rosesthe sexual healing and for themselves and their marriages and that's why on September I have going to a weeklong retreat we can't have our phones I'm literally just going to be camping out in the middle of nowhere in San Diego
04:16:15Lauren Rosesand I don't know what we're going to learn there but cool yeah so I'm excited M um yeah so I'm
04:16:25Brian Atlasready wait so okay you said the first time you did pay to play 21 I was 21 uh what was the situation with the parents
04:16:34Lauren Roseslike did my father was in the military so he was gone most of the time were did your parents divorce or okay got and my mother was a single mother so she was
04:16:45Brian Atlasvery stressed financially so finances were difficult okay they're very glorified too I think in home that's a that's a big reason why a lot of people will get into doing that kind of work is fin you know find it's CU you can make
04:16:58Brian Atlasquick money you can and you can make good money yeah fast money comes with slow problems I and yeah I remember my mom when you know when we were growing
04:17:10Lauren Rosesup money was just like it was very glorified cuz we didn't have it wait Did your mom also do pay the play I don't no she didn't she worked at a company for like several years she worked at a company she was a police officer too she
04:17:23Lauren Rosesworked missing persons so that's why she had a big problem with me being a sex worker she had the rescue once no no she worked missing persons uh in in in she uh she seen what happened to those girls
04:17:35Lauren Rosesshe would be the one that called the parents if they found a body that was my mom yeah and so not to trauma dump and do all that but she was very scared for me when I got into that industry but when I did start working at the brothel
04:17:47Lauren Rosesshe kind of like eased up a little bit like okay this is a legal like I had to you have to pass like security you have to get a license um so it's you know it's pretty you know you do got to pay
04:17:59Brian Atlastaxes on it too it's they they tax that you but it's much better than what than what it was so just on the body count thing in the hundreds I would well you said it was over 100 you think it's what
04:18:12Lauren Roses500 plus I would say maybe yeah yeah I mean I guess 365 days in a year I wasn't doing somebody every day um I wasn't doing we usually do tours so it's like
04:18:24Brian Atlastwo weeks out of each year so I guess if you calculate let's yeah let's do the math um I guess so oh my God how many okay you said One A Day 36 65 days a
04:18:36Brian Atlasyear it it wasn't One A Day for 360 let's say 300 300 three I mean well no 300 in a year 300 days you were active uh would you say that's I would say less
04:18:49Brian Atlasthan that less cuz there's filtering days I call them filtering days filtering 200 would you say 200 in a year is within the realm of possibility it's within the realm of a possibility
04:18:59Brian Atlasyeah okay um but definitely not 365 that won't sure but and but you said you were active since you were 21 I was active since 21 yeah so Poss safe to say over a
04:19:10Lauren Rosesthousand I would say that it was harder for me to get people to want it was few and far between before I started doing the sexual healing that those it was few
04:19:22Lauren Rosesand far between it was very hard for me to get those ones I I got them sometimes but I don't I don't know there was something about that that made did you ever hustle I did and you know what I
04:19:32Lauren Roseshad to stop being I did and and I did I was I remember I was so sad because I didn't understand about the filtering and the emotions and how we take on
04:19:44Lauren Rosestheir emotions and we need those days to recuperate we need those days to we need to be going in with the right intentions in a sense and uh for me I
04:19:54Lauren Roseswasn't at first and and I remember stopping sex work for I think an entire year and I just danced purely because I didn't understand it but then I started
04:20:04Lauren Rosesagain but then finally back there I I got now I understand I understand now I was coming from a place of like you said despair like I was trying to grab and get something but now I'm coming from a
04:20:17Lauren Rosesplace of empowerment where I'm like you know what I want to do this I choose to do this and I want to learn more about it and that's why I'm quite fascinated with the cabala because they they talk
04:20:26Brian Atlasabout a lot of that um well I mean you strike me as someone like you're very articulate um I think like I
04:20:39Brian Atlasdon't know I don't I don't want to be preachy here m but I mean it occurs to me while talking to you you seem like an intelligent person you you're fairly articulate um like you're good-look
04:20:51Lauren Roseswoman um do you think you things could have gone a different path or I mean I you know I don't think so but but
04:21:02Lauren Roseswhat I do think is there is this desire in me to entertain families one day and I know that that sounds totally outlandish but hey Maya Angelo worked at AB brothel I believe she was a a brel
04:21:13Lauren RosesMadame and I you know I look at people like that and I say you know what she can do it maybe I on on a scale of 1 to 10 yes yes how crazy are you I'm pretty
04:21:24Lauren Rosescrazy are you I'm pretty crazy Brian yeah I'm pretty crazy but you know I think you mean by crazy I think like crazy in a sense where like I I think that that's kind of why like the Joker
04:21:36Lauren Rosestoo is like he's just so wild and he just have you ever slashed oh sorry sorry keep keep going no I hav done that I've gotten my tire slashed one time I woke up and my car was keed and my tire was slashed but I wasn't dating anyone I think it was like maybe another girl at
04:21:49Lauren Rosesthe club I don't know what I don't know what it was it was so weird I'm like I like slash doesn't it get pretty catty in strip clubs between some of the chicks it does and it's like you know they get mad if they go oh like you know my money I missed out and it's like no
04:22:02Lauren Rosesyou you didn't because his intention wasn't with you have you ever so have you ever slashed a guy's tires no not like that I there I think there's two types of crazy there's people that take it out on others and people that take it
04:22:12Lauren Rosesout out of themselves and I was more the ladder until I started really I was more the ladder where I would take everything out of myself I remember I'd mark my hand not like you know do any of that but I would I would tally mistakes that
04:22:25Lauren RosesI made in the day with like a pen like and I'd be like I made a mistake I I shouldn't have and I would think about conversations where I'm like I should have said this to them and I beat myself up about it but then I realized like I
04:22:36Arielgot to be kinder to myself for people to be kinder to me and and that's a lot of therapy so all right well we can keep going body body count yeah I have one
04:22:46Arielbody but it only happened that one time there's a one night stand no it wasn't a one night stand it was I mean I knew him somewhat well wait did you tell this story no I didn't tell the story one the
04:22:59Arielone guy this is no this is not the guy that I dated for 4 days wait so like you only hooked up one time well we what do you mean by hooking
04:23:10Brian Atlasup you mean well did you said like like you had sex only one time yes and you have one body yes what happen what what's the story
04:23:22Arielthere what's the story what's the story well I don't even really like no no no no no no no this was actually when I was 16 almost
04:23:35Ariel17 um I don't really remember my logic behind it but I think it was was almost something like
04:23:45Arieluh GH I hate to say but like everyone's doing it I think you have to talk about it if you don't want to it's not no I'm not I'm not uncomfortable talking about it I
04:23:56Arieljust genuinely I don't really remember cuz it was so long ago but basically it happened once and I guess we're were planning on
04:24:06Arielhanging out again but it just never happened so yeah that's really it like did he go you or did you lose interest or
04:24:18Arielum it was like I mean I would say almost like he ghosted me sure but we yeah we were planning on hang out
04:24:29Brian Atlasagain and then did he play you what do you mean did he like did he play you like he was he was uh sure yeah hey I
04:24:37Brian Atlasmean it happens um oh yeah but basically like he was kind of figing like he was interested but then like you guys finally hook up and then cuz a lot of guys will be like oh yeah like I want a
04:24:49Arielrelation whatever and maybe that wasn't Cas I mean he never said he wanted a relationship but okay so he didn't play you like that but yeah I'm not going to well I'm not going to sit in pain him as a villain but sure you could say that
04:25:00Brian Atlasokay um all right good times strange story bad times seem kind ofum of him though I don't think it's that strange I guess
04:25:11Arielyeah not good it's not I no I'm I'm perfectly fine well yeah I mean you guys only hung out that one time I guess well no we we had hung out I had known him
04:25:21Brian Atlasfor a like months yeah yeah we had hung out before yeah oh so you liked him no crushing oh no you were wait you slept with him but you didn't like you didn't like I don't like he was definitely very
04:25:33Brian AtlasI thought I found him very attractive very attractive okay but I didn't expect to date him after that was it like at a party or something or did it did it
04:25:42Arielhappen kind of like spontaneously type thing or yeah it was I mean I guess I guess it was spontaneous it was just like a I guess a whatever moment for me you guys were
04:25:55Arieljust chilling at the pad and then you're like he was just like well no we had went out to dinner before and stuff but in I think back then in my eyes it was like as long as it was a good experience
04:26:07Arielyou know we had a good night whatever um it wasn't a bad way to lose it were you kind of bummed that he didn't like you were like hey like I'm kind of bummed he didn't no I wasn't
04:26:18Arielbummed that he didn't like me but I did notice that after I did it I felt like I had to grow up you know cuz I was like I did this and I was like yeah do you do you regret
04:26:30Arielit I don't I wouldn't say I regret it because I don't think like I still have my dignity I still respect myself a lot sure and it's not like I went and slept around
04:26:40Arielafter I would say it's something that does not affect me at all to this day but I mean it's something that happened I don't really sit here and be like I regret it you know sure it happened it
04:26:52Morganis what it is makes sense what about you um well so I lost my V really young to a 17-year-old okay let's not talk about
04:27:01Morganthat okay okay okay um but yeah so 14 I I counted for this show I never really thought to even count or anything actually yeah but more on so I do think
04:27:14Emilybody count matters so I'm not going to share because I think it's something that should be intimate between you and your future partner sure but you said that it's you did it's at least one
04:27:24Emilycorrect yes I have engaged in HP culture college and have done it that's totally fun yes um m i just like answering this question
04:27:37Unknown (23)but everyone knows so I'm already going to say I'll I'll own up to it it's it's eight but I feel like I was at like a time in my life where I was very sucked into the like the male validation thing that like everyone was doing it so you
04:27:49Unknown (23)had to do it and I wanted to say like I'm not making excuses for myself obviously I'm going to own up to it you were brainwashed but I was brainwashed and I feel like as I've grown like I
04:27:59Unknown (23)I've developed more values and morals and everything like that and at the time I like again I'm not I don't want to make excuses for myself because I don't want to sound like stupid but like I
04:28:12Unknown (23)didn't have anyone to tell me like it was wrong like I didn't have a mother to tell me like oh like this is wrong blah blah like my father was a little bit absent like I had no one to really guide me in the right way to do that and if I
04:28:24Emilycould go back and redo it I would but it's eight8 and it's going to be eight for the rest of my life so you being 18 and saying that is just so wise cuz I think there's so many girls now who are
04:28:33Emily18 19 20 21 who are so sold that same lie of hookup culture male validation seeking that I know that's something that I struggled with for years when I was 18 of like going and doing hookups
04:28:45Unknown (23)because it's like oh guys are giving you attention it's normalized and you feel cool for some reason you feel cool you feel like a cool girl every like body that I have had I've genuinely
04:28:57Carly (nursing)liked the guide that I've done it I I didn't just like do random hookups you know like then what's wrong with it like I don't understand like what's wrong with it like I I like to have sex it you can like to have sex and not sleep with
04:29:09Carly (nursing)a lot of people I think it's a um fa selfcontrol issue almost yeah exactly yeah I think it's sad that you like some of you shame yourself I'm not shaming I
04:29:20Carly (nursing)don't think anyone's shaming themselves I just you know I acknowledge that like maybe it was wrong like no you're fine well I do acknowledge it was wrong I'm just saying maybe she felt like she was doing it out of fear and not out of her own like heart and that's not like shame
04:29:33Emilybut like oh my goodness like I was so young you liked every guy that you did it with so then just you're fine yeah but I got played by every guy that I did it with I mean I like guys that I've done things with but just because I like them doesn't mean that I should have
04:29:46Unknown (23)allowed myself to give my full self to that person oh well then that's yeah well I you gave your full self that's what I'm saying is and like I said like as I got older like I developed more values and I feel like I didn't value it
04:29:58Carlyas much as I do now do you think that you cuz we're around the same age the three of us do you think that you got more conservative as you got older like out High School I think I think all
04:30:09Carlythree of us did and I usually don't meet people like that but it's cool to see that y'all are so wise seriously I was where y'all were when I was 18 and I'm I turned 24 this month like it's it's
04:30:20Emilyinsane to see young people like you girls who you know have lower bodies and are actively talking about it because I feel like just because so many lies are sold to us that it is glorifying for us to be so sexually active hookup culture
04:30:33Emilyin college it's like almost if you're not engaging in that culture in college you're missing out when in reality if you're not engaging in that you're actually saving yourself for something so much better in the future yeah I think it should be talked about more for
04:30:45Carlysure especially in art industry oh my God I think I would say around 95% it's not even um in our industry it's not even like having a lot
04:30:56Carlyof um sex because let's be honest everybody who's a fitness influencer or most people are going to be attractive on the higher end because you know
04:31:04Carlythat's your job but in the women's side I want to say a good 95% of the girls in the the fitness industry do only fans
04:31:13Carlyyeah really um it's just so so normal want that the most I feel like they want the fitness the most almost like a it's a very malale
04:31:25Carlydominated industry and if you take purely Fitness the men make way more money than the girls so the girls make up for that by selling sex basically we're very lucky we're able to be
04:31:37Carlyfinancially independent just doing Fitness not doing anything sexual but a lot lot of girls can't find that um level of financial Independence in the industry because it is it is male and then they see everyone else doing their like and they almost assume that we do
04:31:50Carlyit too that's the biggest part that bothers me it affects us because we meet people there are people who have known us for months and then one day we randomly stumble upon the conversation and they're like oh you don't do only fans it's like I I don't I personally
04:32:03Carlydon't want to be seen as somebody who does sex with Su that it's like normalized for you guys annoying there was like some guy at the gym who thought I was like he's like I thought you were richer than that cuz we were talking about income and I was like like what do
04:32:16Carlyyou mean he goes well your only fans how much money does that bring in just like automatic ass something automatically think and it's like oh my God like there's guys who I've gone on like dates with and they go well my number one concern is that you do only fans I'm
04:32:27Carlylike where did you get that from like it's just an assumption now yeah and so it reflects poorly on the rest of us and it it's I don't know if upsetting is the
04:32:38Arielright term but it's frustrating it's frustrating honestly me personally I don't think it's frustrating because then it's just like they find out oh you don't do only fans it's like oh like
04:32:48Carlyit's almost like I think yeah I think if everybody knew like on widespread then like yeah but I I mean I guess my followers know that I yeah cuz it's like if they seek it out then they're like oh
04:32:59Carlythey'll figure it out yeah that's true yeah I I don't like say it yeah got SP out I don't I don't want to be like oh like moral High
04:33:11CarlyGround like I'm better than you but at the same time can I do take pride in making my money in a uh nonexploitive
04:33:22Carlyway I think that the way that I make my money isn't uh negative on my mental health like a lot of things a lot of things you know what I'm getting at are
04:33:33Carlyyou saying that sex work isn't real work no I think that it's still I I don't know I I don't think I'm educated enough on that topic to give you you define real work sorry I'm just [ __ ] how
04:33:44Brian Atlaswould you define real work I'm instigating I'm just instigating here okay um here let's do this we have uh puffy here Nick can you pull up Puffy's Instagram because we'll we'll do him a
04:33:55Brian Atlassolid uh all right I done 500 today can the girls rate me one of any of your panel have give about a three puffy bro I'm going to enroll you
04:34:06Brian Atlasin some English classes uh and most say I'm zero so I gave 500 tonight have the girls raap me puffy answer your DMs bro please your
04:34:16Brian AtlasDMs Rippy what the blonde Hulk meant to say is money means more when it is earned with dignity ha Get Wrecked blond um who's the blonde I think it's who
04:34:28Backgroundelse is the blonde Hulk I thought because they were calling me fat so I was like I thought it was me I think she they mean jacked they saying I have crying eyes do I have crying eyes is that I thought I thought they said the
04:34:41Backgroundgirl the red has crying eyes I'm like huh okay first of all it's fuchia not yeah all right we have Alex P here hey thank you man Kirby has already profited
04:34:52Brian Atlasfrom severely severely thank sorry to correct you no I scuffed that okay a moral actions so she will use any and all cognitive dissonance to avoid facing the
04:35:03Brian Atlasshame and guilt she deserves Brian make your pen out of a piece of the USS New Jersey and it uses your silly refills oh I need to get back to about the pens uh he's going to hook me up with a bunch of
04:35:14Brian Atlaspens I guess we need some in the studio so uh if you can uh bump the um what's it called our DMS on Instagram I'll I'll get back to you sorry I get like 100 DMS a week well more than 100 DMS a week so
04:35:27Brian Atlasit's hard to keep up with everybody but thank you man appreciate it um okay let's do let's do the videos and then let's WRA um oh Puffy yes let's do puffy really
04:35:39Brian Atlasquick all right this is uh Senor puffy Vegas holy [ __ ] which one's him the one
04:35:46Brian Atlasguy the only man oh my god wow uh click click that one oh yeah what uh okay that's your comment it doesn't look like
04:35:56Arielhe's sleeping with look asking them for pictures I commented on here this puffy the guy that sleeps with wait many many many women uh do the one to the left I
04:36:09Carly (nursing)think he just goes on the strip and takes 30 and probably pay them and that's why he has a 500 body count oh G I like you
04:36:20Brian Atlassupport him in all of his adventur nice comments it's a it's a uh Mutual he supports me I support him totally yo guys everybody in the chat right now I want you to go to his Instagram right
04:36:32Brian Atlasnow and I want you to spam comments on uh Exile this one I'll tell you the photo I want you the one to the right of it that we pulled up before okay I want to see 100 comments on this if you got
04:36:44Brian AtlasInstagram go go pull up his Instagram um come back to the chat after you're done I want you to comment uh fire emojis sleigh
04:36:54Brian AtlasQueen um what's this puffy Vegas Vegas puffy Vegas sigh Queen fire emojis um the the fingernail one where it's doing like the fingernail just everything um
04:37:05Brian Atlasso that's his IG ladies what do you give him out of 10 10 you can close ni yeah like a nice guy he looks nice but I'm concerned with going up to random women
04:37:15Brian Atlasand taking pictures followed him little yeah my God this is getting wait uh actually Nick leave a com let's write
04:37:27Brian Atlaslet's also leave a comment uh just write um no it's yeah right there just write um what should we what should we write on his Instagram right now hello um
04:37:38Arielsolid guy he looks like a nice guy he he based on just looks he looks like the type of people that I would want to shrink and
04:37:47Carlyput in my pocket yeah exactly just write um this is what Peak male performance male performance
04:37:58Unknown (23)masculinity whether you like it or not this is what Peak male performance looks like yeah you can put there you go I wonder how he is in person I really want
04:38:07Carly (nursing)to meet him yeah we too what you rate them would you rate them just uh I forget what I said I I don't know seven six whatever did you rate them I'm not going to rate anybody
04:38:20Morganbillion bucks no ratings for anyone tonight um I'm going to rate you a 10 because I
04:38:27Brian Atlasappreciate that you always come on here and do this yeah no rating five what wow wow
04:38:37Unknown (23)heartless did you see how cold look into this camera look how cold but he always talks about how he always meets women that cheat on their husbands and
04:38:47Lauren Roseseverything but you're allowing them to do that okay so yeah I didn't know who yeah who un homor Vegas we have a couple videos that we
04:38:58Brian Atlasgot to react to and then we're going to wrap okay so pull up the first Andrew tape video oh boy it's Rel what we were talking about go ahead you can
04:39:10Video Clip Audioplay uh video here no it's it's fine there you know what's so attractive about younger women because we a lot of these dudes talk about fertility and looks and stuff I don't actually think
04:39:19Arielit's that I wait can we turn the captions on Nick can we can we turn the captions on what
04:39:37Video Clip Audiohappen I got it know what's so attractive about younger women because we a
04:39:49Brian Atlaslot yeah but now you need that right click here you got X out of
04:39:59Carlythat I was cheing the tricep yeah I want to look it's the only good thing about my arm
04:40:11Video Clip Audiosorry guys it's okay you know what's so attractive about younger women because we a lot of these dudes talk about fertility and looks and stuff I don't actually think it's that I
04:40:23Video Clip Audiothink that in the modern world in the in the days of old right you'd meet a woman you get married you be together whatever whatever in the modern world if I meet a girl who's 33 and single I know the amount of dick that's been through her before me is just simply unattractive I
04:40:36Video Clip Audiodon't care how nice you are but you're 33 years old how many men have [ __ ] if I get a 19-year-old girl might be your second or third man right I'm going to be dude number [ __ ] 29 and all the trauma and heartbreak and [ __ ] they put you through you're going to try and
04:40:48Video Clip Audiobring to my door like well my last man cheat I'll don't give a [ __ ] like I don't care like why is that my problem so if you pick up older women you have to accept they've been on the carousel longer they've had more [ __ ] rides
04:41:00Video Clip Audiomore spins I don't want that [ __ ] when I see a beautiful young woman I know that she has a very low body count and that and and also no but no but the truth is is women's mentality is absolutely connected to sex if a woman sleeps with
04:41:12Video Clip Audioa bunch of men it's harder to penetrate her mind and make her fall loveattractive and it's unattractive but if she if she's had 30 dudes inside of her she is she really going to think you know what this guy's so so so special or she G to think you know what he talked to me rud I'll go get a new guy whereas if a woman's only been with a few guys