HEATED DEBATE Liberals vs. Conservatives vs. SHAMAN?! | Dating Talk #89
Date: 2023-08-02
Duration: 5h 30m
Guests
Brian AtlasIdentified Speakers
SPEAKER_01Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_02Morgan(guest)
SPEAKER_04Lauren Roses(guest)
SPEAKER_07Carly(guest)
SPEAKER_08Emily(guest)
SPEAKER_09Ariel(guest)
SPEAKER_10Unknown (23)(guest)
SPEAKER_11Carly (nursing)(guest)
SPEAKER_12Isabella(guest)
Key Moments
00:03:41
QuoteLauren Roses introduces herself as working at a brothel, age 30
“hi my name is Lauren roses and I work at a brothel and I'm also a musician age uh 30”
00:11:00
QuoteLauren coins 'bordello' as YouTube-safe term for brothel after Brian prompts her
“it's um what is a bord th that's a wi legal red light oh bordell bord that works okay I'm going to say bordell I like that sounds”
00:14:01
QuoteLauren explains spiritual/healing dimension of her sex work at the bordello
“sexual Shamanism they teach Tantra they teach all that and I believe that when I really connect with people emotionally”
00:27:12
QuoteLauren reveals her body count is 500+ (triple digits to over 1000) as a professional
“it's like triple digits or less than that trip like more than 100 yeah I mean I would I would think so after all those years”
00:53:01
QuoteBrian confirms second Carly's nickname 'cat' while addressing her pre-show messages
“okay so cat you in your pre-show messages to us you had indicated sorry I'm getting this pulled up that you're not”
01:40:01
QuoteMorgan discloses body count of 14
“yeah so 14 I I counted for this show I never really thought to even count or anything actually”
01:40:37
QuoteSPEAKER_10 discloses body count of 8, expresses regret
“it's it's eight but I feel like I was at like a time in my life where I felt like I had to do it”
03:29:29
QuoteBrian confirms Morgan's name on stream after viewer donation
“donated 69 Morgan how do you say anything name Morgan it's just Morgan okay uh you are making a lot of great points”
04:23:51
QuoteCarly (19) estimates ~95% of female fitness influencers do OnlyFans
“I would say around 95% it's not even um in our industry it's of um sex because let's be honest everybody who's a fitness influencer”
05:24:04
QuoteEmily delivers closing anti-feminist statement
“feminism has absolutely plagued America scientific that us women make connections with men and Body Count does matter”
Topics Discussed
00:00:00
Guest introductions and relationship statuses
Brian introduces show, guests introduce themselves with age/occupation. Go around table on relationship status. Notable: Lauren Roses explains she works at a legal Nevada bordello (calls it 'bordello' to avoid YouTube demonetization).
00:14:00
Lauren Roses: sex work background and spiritual healing
Extended discussion of Lauren's career path: Baptist upbringing, dancing at Vegas clubs (Spearmint Rhino, Cheetah), escort work from age 21, current work at bordello. Studies sexual shamanism/tantra at ISTA. Views sex work as 'spiritual healing.' Had brief pimp; regrets it. Mother worked in missing persons.
00:33:40
Dating famous people / celebrity DMs
Panel goes around table on dating or receiving DMs from celebrities. Highlights: Carly (19) dates Chris Tren (fitness YouTuber); Carly (26) dated a billionaire heir who owned a basketball team; Lauren had NDAs with comedian, NFL players, Saudi prince; Morgan's fiance is an actor in Amazon Prime WWII film; SPEAKER_10 got DMs from City Morgan (rapper).
01:00:00
Religion, spirituality, and values
Who on panel is religious. SPEAKER_10 and Isabella identify as Christians. Morgan raised Baptist, now spiritual. Lauren raised Baptist, now into shamanism/tantra. Discussion on how their backgrounds shaped views.
01:00:00
Sex work, sugar daddies, and OnlyFans
Multi-topic discussion: stripping vs OnlyFans (Carly 26 preferred in-person work over OF), sugar daddy experiences (Carly 26 had several, no sex), Emily stepped away from OF, Lauren on the spectrum of sex work. Open relationships, pimp dynamics.
01:48:20
Body count debate
Extended panel debate on whether body count matters in relationships. Various viewpoints: Isabella/Emily (body count matters, correlates with pair bonding issues), Carly 26 (nuanced, about self-control), Morgan (her body count is 14, happy in relationship). Video clip reactions (SPEAKER_05 clips). Statistical claims about oxytocin/dopamine differences between sexes.
02:25:00
Age gaps in dating
Discussion of age gap relationships. Brian argues evolutionary basis for men preferring younger women (fertility window). Lauren dated 45yo at 21. Morgan dated 34yo at 22. Panel debate on maturity vs. experience in age-gap relationships.
04:25:00
Fitness industry and OnlyFans normalization
Carly (19) discusses that ~95% of women fitness influencers do OnlyFans. Frustration at assumption that fitness influencers do OF. Economics: men make more in fitness industry; women supplement with OF.
04:51:40
Virgins and sexual experience debate
SPEAKER_05 video clip reaction (man arguing love > sex experience). Panel discussion on whether virginity/low body count predicts sexual satisfaction. Brian argues for both positions.
05:20:00
Final wrap-up: hookup culture and feminism
Emily delivers anti-feminist closing statement. Morgan defends body count/hookup culture as personal choice. Carly (26) acknowledges she's against hookup culture even if she doesn't judge individuals. Show wraps at ~5:30hrs.
Transcript
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01:50:58
Isabellawith you I think I think that body count is important to the person that you're with MH and being intimate with I think that's fair I mean I like I said I have no issue with people like um having
01:51:10
Carly (nursing)issue with body count only if their body count is also like low like I just don't like how men will come on here or like any other podcast or just vocalize how they
01:51:21
Carly (nursing)are allowed to have sex with 300 400 women but then expect to be with a woman with one or two oh well
01:51:29
TTS Donationsno yeah hold on just donated $100 I sort of agree as I watched how the relationship between little Ed and Liz Wood's relationship is a mess but
01:51:40
TTS Donationsthat's exaggerated TV I've been with someone with a high body count and the one with a lower one the lower one showed sympathy unlike the other thank you Prometheus appreciate it
01:51:52
Carly (nursing)um he's been with someone with I and okay all right um continue with your point um I also wanted to add that um I feel like it's less about how many
01:52:03
Carly (nursing)people you with a thank you flam life for the uh 20 gifted memberships appreciate it you think it's less about um it's less about how many people youve slept with and
01:52:14
Carly (nursing)more about like your experience with relationships like I feel like one bad relationship will truly taint a man or woman for their future ones and I think
01:52:24
Carly (nursing)it's less about casual sex and um I mean I don't know I mean I've seen the studies and whatnot I think that's one study I don't know if there's been multiple um so I can't I don't have a
01:52:35
Emilylot to comment on the one St oh closer do you agree that psychologically though the more people that women sleep with it changes the chemicals like in
01:52:46
Carly (nursing)your brain to where you're enabled to have a longer term relationship with a man that's a that's no I mean i' I mean look I I've I don't have I personally don't have issues with
01:52:58
Carly (nursing)relationships at all or falling in love the one thing that did change me personally was like this one bad experience that I had with a man and that's what I what I feel like is more detrimental as opposed to like sleeping
01:53:11
Brian Atlaswith a bunch of people I don't think that it really matters that much well you you mentioned that well having a specifically one bad toxic relationship may have more of a negative impact than
01:53:22
Brian Atlashaving high body count but it can be both I mean certainly yes if you have a One Singular bad relationship that could potentially um have negative impact on your future relationships but certainly
01:53:33
Brian Atlasif you've had like a long string of transient sexual partners you know youve had 20 30 40 50 60 70 one night stands or shortterm
01:53:44
Carly (nursing)whatever that has a negative impact too I think it kind of depends on like especially when it comes to women um I what's so when I was in high school um a lot of like my friends like just would
01:53:56
Carly (nursing)have sex with guys because they didn't know how to say no and that I feel that can be traumatic and that can change you but I mean are we just like doubting like women's sexuality like some women
01:54:07
Isabellaare just [ __ ] I think there's a difference there's a difference though between doubting a woman's sexuality and then borderline being like it's okay to sleep with whoever you think you want to
01:54:18
Isabellaor who you're attracted to at the time and like Morgan said like statistically it's been proven that like women are getting divorces literally because of their body counts quite literally it I think it does make commitment harder and
01:54:30
IsabellaI don't believe women who have high body counts feel good about themselves I don't know how someone can feel like good about themselves having so many and I'm not attacking you personally I'm just saying like in general like I don't know how I could feel good about myself
01:54:42
Isabellahaving like so many bodies to the point where like I've lost track well before I have you respond you wanted to come in go ahead I was just going to say you can be horny and control your desires that's not really how come we don't expect that for men
01:54:54
Isabellathough I do I don't like when men have a high body count I think that there's a difference between men and women I do believe that sometimes men need to like get it out of their system but I'm not saying that men should be able to sleep with 50 plus women because they're men
01:55:06
Isabellaand I think that's where people like get confused too like even with conservatism like oh men need to get out of their systems they can like sleep with whoever no that's disgusting to me too why would I if my body count is so low or I've
01:55:18
Isabellalike worked hard to like preserve myself for my husband why would I want to marry someone who has 40 bodies 50 bodies 60 bodies but also I want to mention that that study that you're referencing it
01:55:28
Carly (nursing)ref it's it talks about people who have like there's a big difference in when it comes to divorce when it comes to people who have had more than one body count beyond that and it's it's the same for
01:55:39
Carly (nursing)men and women it's more pronounced than women also also yeah if if you have more experience like naturally like you're going to like not accept the least and yeah if you've only slept with one
01:55:51
Carly (nursing)person your entire life like you're not going to have the experience or the maybe even like the confidence to want to leave that person and I I think think experience I think divorce is fine by the way I know you think divorce is fine
01:56:02
Isabella100% you even if there's kids involved you think divorce is fine yes I'm a child of divorce and I'm glad my parents got divorce and you think that your life spent out the way that you wanted to because yes my parents fought all the time when
01:56:14
Carly (nursing)I was a kid and actually I think like their fighting almost was more detrimental than them getting divorced I mean I feel like in situations like that it's a little bit different right where there's like an abusive situation no it was not abusive like not physical
01:56:27
Isabellaemotionally abusive yelling right just a lot yeah so I would feel like I'd consider that like under the guise of like abuse but also too like the going like the marriage thing like a lot of people like we've in America we've had 53 years of no fault divorces people
01:56:40
Isabellahave been able to get divorces for whatever reason they feel like and I feel like that has like been against her demise where people like get marriages and like Adam 22 is the perfect example I think it's an absolute mockery of marriage and what it should be or like
01:56:52
Isabellaeven like you sitting here like single or whatever like not married like being okay with like divorce like I guess I just can't like wrap my mind around that I feel like that's detrimental to like
01:57:03
Lauren Rosesyou your husband your future kids I feel like it's very unfair to your future children especially if they are involved I think it depends on the on the scenario but but I don't what I don't if
01:57:16
Lauren Rosesit was like a divorce where there was just it it was detri meting the whole family and they and everybody went to counseling I do believe should at least go to some sort of counseling you got you got to try to make it work you can't
01:57:25
Lauren Rosesjust be like I'm splitting and and but I do feel serial rearers they need to fix themselves and and it's like if you see yourself getting divorced getting
01:57:36
TTS Donationsmarried get you start checking why you're either attracting these types of people or why M valev donated $100 blue tank fam how you going to show
01:57:47
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01:57:57
Brian Atlasman or combat effective man I wish I knew what he said um blue tank that's me we're going to need like a uh some sort
01:58:05
Carly (nursing)of Cipher something to decipher uh this this riddle commenting on your outfit I mean I I'm not I'm just trying to
01:58:15
TTS Donationsdecipher this for you oh we have another onecore inore Canada donated $99 body count is a dumb conversation because it's not Zero Sum if guys want
01:58:28
Brian Atlaswomen with lower body counts they should stop increasing them that's another thing I want to talk about yeah well I mean I mean on that topic though what I would say is there's a smaller
01:58:40
Isabellaproportion of men that are supposedly respons responsible for increasing women's body count but it's kind of like the only fans thing too like a lot of men will be like oh this is so so bad and it's so horrible but
01:58:53
Isabellawho's creating the supply I mean who's creating the demand and then who's meeting the supply like do I know women who do only fans and like making six figures do I necessarily blame them no
01:59:05
Emilyyou know but the same men that like yeah I mean I think that there is definitely I'm so with you men should not be spending money on only fans well because the men are instigating the women to continue doing it but then if the men is like well I don't want to marry someone
01:59:18
Unknown (23)who has a high body count but then they're all are also doing it as well doing o yeah for sure yeah there's nothing you do only
01:59:30
Brian Atlasactually only and a lot of Their audience are other men only fans yeah but it's like a meme I don't like I'm not posting like nudes and it's just like uh I guess now you don't have to
01:59:41
Morganthere's like two photos of Kiki on there yeah it's just for jokes um I will say my um fiance and I never talked about body count until we started watching whatever and then everyone was
01:59:51
TTS Donationstalking about it oh hold on Cur $99 body count is in every episode I don't seem to care when you really think
02:00:01
TTS Donationsabout it you can just lie a chick could have been bred by 50 bucks I wouldn't be able to judge them I could just tell chicks I'm a virgin till they meet my
02:00:12
Isabellakid when someone has a high body count I feel like you can always tell there's always something that somebody has a high body count both in men and women yeah out of curiosity I want to know you
02:00:25
Carlysorry I want to know what your everybody's stances on um hypothetically if a woman were to have a high body count or be promiscuous and then for lack of better Words Be remorseful about
02:00:37
TTS Donationsit I think that there's a lot of I'm just curious I think that there's ifon $100 stop blaming men for grown independent women's decisions having a
02:00:49
TTS Donationshigh body count comes with a set of habits the average man would prefer his wife not exemplify mhm facts true that's just fact that's facts it's facts facts it's
02:01:00
Isabellafacts big fact thank you Devon um to answer your question I feel like there's a lot of women who were lied to and like I have friends who are older who have said like you even said like body count really wasn't even talked about and I
02:01:12
Isabellathink that there's a lot of women specifically in feminism who relied to say that this was empowering and that they would have time later on in their lives for like a family and that there was no need to do that in their 20s um and now that they most of them and people even I know find themselves like
02:01:25
Isabellaremorseful for their Lifestyles unmarried no children and I think that they're I think that if they're remorseful for the lifestyle I think that's okay as opposed to like being
02:01:34
Carlylike proud of their lifestyle and like standing by it do you think that um sex positivity is kind of like a ruse that's in the interest of men I think that it
02:01:47
Isabelladefinitely benefits men and that's why like I don't understand why so much women harp on it because it's literally like you're being used and it's out your demise like it only benefits one person and it's not you if sex work was truly
02:01:59
Emilyempowering for women men would not support it exact for being honest 100% I also think the modern feminist movement has completely lied to women to be impowered to enable them to go into sex
02:02:10
Emilywork which is just a lie I mean men are the ones that are again supplying that to I mean only fans really is the biggest PM of it all taking 20% of every single woman's money that they're making on this account by posting nude images
02:02:23
Emilyof themselves and under the guise of being empowering and so it's just another lie that I mean the feminist movement has continued to sell to women on top of like even the birth control movement when birth control came out it
02:02:34
Emilywas being able to be sexual and sleep around with people with no consequences and that's when that started to come out in the early times that's why it was put on the market you know why aren't men having birth control I'm not on birth
02:02:46
Emilycontrol at all but I think there's multiple moments in history that women have just continuously been lie to and encourage to have a higher body count Matthew McCarthy donated $99 hey thank
02:02:58
TTS Donationsyou mat the only thing body count determines is how experienced your partner is in the bedroom I've hooked up with virgins and they were all z z z z z z z bu Balor is hands down the best
02:03:10
TTS Donationssexual partner I've ever had that continues to surprise me and blow my mind haa he's very open but no yeah I mean
02:03:20
Brian Atlasyeah um thank you so this is your boyfriend who has just sent a TTS to a live fiance to live stream advertising your sexual abilities I
02:03:31
Brian Atlasdon't hey Different Strokes for different folks um but okay like okay I mean I'm the only guy here but I mean we've asked guys this question before and this is often a common attempt at a
02:03:43
Brian Atlasrebuttal to the whole body count thing well oh well as a guy like don't you want a girl who's sexually experienced isn't the sex going to be better perhaps
02:03:54
Brian Atlasbut like there's other factors when it comes to attractiveness like and also like as a guy typically if if you know how to lead in the bedroom you can take a girl who's never had sex and had great
02:04:06
TTS Donationssex with her I'll finish after this thank you prome people with high body counts are desensitized to understand relationships and if they can honor it or respect it word thank you Prometheus yeah this
02:04:19
Brian Atlasidea like also like a woman who's been in one long-term relationship you could argue that she's maybe had sex more often with that what the
02:04:30
Brian Atlas[ __ ] uh with that one person um versus a girl like let's say A girl has had sex with one guy a thousand times versus a girl who's had sex with a hundred guys
02:04:40
Brian Atlasone time each I mean I'mma probably think like the girl who was in the relationship could like probably is going to be better in any case uh as a guy if you know how the in the bedroom
02:04:52
Carly (nursing)like you can take a girl who's never had sex before and have great sex with her well I think that's something that's specially go ahead um I kind of wanted Oh Oh I thought you were addressing what I was saying oh I I actually yeah so um
02:05:03
Carly (nursing)I I have two thoughts at once um so yeah but you're kind of you're talking about it from the guy's perspective like yeah maybe you can enjoy it but like is she going to enjoy it and like is she going
02:05:14
Carly (nursing)to be comfortable cuz I mean I don't when I was having sorry no no no no no what I mean I mean when I was first having sex like I know that it wasn't as comfortable for me and I feel like both
02:05:25
TTS DonationsPartners sated $1100 Brian here is $100 to refund the virtual signaling simp who tried to blame men for a woman's promise cuity uh
02:05:36
Brian Atlasthank you Al Sam good to see you in the chat man um look I I think uh yeah who was it who uh did that anyways oh sh oh let me actually really quick let me get this we had verbose here verbose donated
02:05:49
Brian Atlas55 thank you man hey Brian would you ever have J on the show love the Pod man keep it up it's about to trigger um yes I would have Jensen on the show I think I don't know if he's I used to do film some videos with this uh kid named
02:06:02
Brian AtlasJensen we like did this was back in the prank video days uh so yeah I'd be done to have him on um thank you aan Sam was it another TTS
02:06:12
Brian Atlasthat came through that was trying to minimize oh wow okay plan life hey thank you for the gift the 50 gied memberships really appreciate it um that means we got to do fit check but we'll wait until
02:06:25
Brian Atlaswhat's her name is back and we'll do a little fit check um and I guess we'll do another like some some this is like the bodybuilding part of the show so you guys we we'll get the tri we'll see the tri we'll do some flexing um dude fan
02:06:38
Brian Atlaslife thank you so much good to see you in the chat man uh I I think I emailed you back earlier today appreciate it uh thank you Alvin Sam too uh really quick why don't you pull up the twitch we will come back to our conversation thread really quick yo guys go to twitch.tv/
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Brian Atlasrehab thank you for the five Community Subs appreciate it narus game thank you thank you man appreciate it go guys go to uh whatever fanp pod oh [ __ ] okay thank you for the follow guys twitch.tv
02:07:13
Carly (nursing)whatever this is our twitch drop us a follow drop us a prime sub um okay go ahead I kind of lost I'm so sorry that was a lot for me I kind of lost where I was at so we we were talking about body
02:07:25
Brian Atlascount and I was talking about like how a woman if a man can lead then no you were talking about like well is it well you're viewing it from the man's perspective but like as a girl when I was a virgin something it wasn't sexual
02:07:38
Brian Atlasexperience sexual experience right um I mean I feel like I totally lost my point that was well you're saying well is it going to be good for her for girl yeah basically
02:07:50
Brian Atlasbut doesn't a you have to start somewhere yeah I guess like everyone has to have their first time if are you talking if there's like pain but Al no not even just pain but I feel like when actually you know what I'm not going to
02:08:01
Carly (nursing)speak on anyone's like um preferences but I feel like men are you can you can well I I don't want to assume but
02:08:10
Carly (nursing)actually I actually think that some men you can assume okay some men actually do like when women are like are almost like not
02:08:22
Carly (nursing)like not like into it or like they only care about how they feel and I feel like it almost kind of like like cuz if they like I don't know how to explain okay
02:08:31
Carly (nursing)and not I'm losing my P wait I to much like a a receiving mode maybe you you think men are into it when women what like almost like don't know what's going
02:08:44
Carly (nursing)on sometimes wait straight into pleas don't know what's going on yeah I feel like sometimes men are like into like just like oh like I guess this is what we're going to do like you know they they want just like a girl who's going
02:08:56
Carly (nursing)to like go with whatever or so I guess yeah I agree with you that if a man can lead it might be good for him but sometimes like it could be good a dominant dominant man dominant submissive woman okay yeah I think
02:09:08
Carlythat's kind of what I'm getting at well I got kind of sidetracked I'm like like word vomiting a little bit I I think originally you were saying that you were more concerned that if a woman was just starting out having sex that it wouldn't
02:09:19
Carlybe as enjoyable for her but I think the scenario we're describing hopefully cuz we were talking about virginity right hopefully it's with somebody she loves and has been with which I think would
02:09:30
Carlyinherently make it a good experience even if it's not the greatest sex in a random situation where uh let's say you're a virgin and you're losing it to a complete total stranger like a random
02:09:41
Carly (nursing)hookup like that's more concerning I can see why that would not be good horrible yeah that sounds terrible what would be horrible um like losing your virginity to someone that is like a random hookup don't you think that it's kind of it's
02:09:53
Emilykind of been normalized now though that for people to lose it young just like get it over with get it out of your system women sleep around like get that sexual experience which now men when dating I don't think men ever desire a
02:10:06
Emilywoman who's sexually experiened cuz like Brian said like you can learn that in marriage that's not true you're so wrong on
02:10:17
Carly (nursing)that Nick something hold on Nick does Nick agree y but also it depends on the man I'm sorry like like some men want an experience some men want experience like you can't say that that's cap
02:10:32
Arielthat's I think most men seek exper sexually experienced women for hookups and they seek non sexually experienced women for relationships erroneous
02:10:44
Arielerroneous see I don't think they care for hookups for hookups they'll hook up with anybody whether you're experienc or not marriage they at once and then they're not talking to her again they might as well have an experienced woman
02:10:55
Brian Atlaswell no maybe in your world I think you're you're sort of onto something I I would say that when it for one night stands a guy is hold that thought actually oh I'll
02:11:08
Brian Atlashave to trigger I'll have to trigger it again okay okay so um a man is for for a one night stand or a casual hookup he's
02:11:17
Brian Atlasmore willing to be with a woman who is say more sexually experienced but I think even in for at least for me I think a lot of other guys here even for
02:11:29
Brian Atlasa one night stand if given the option A guy would much prefer going with a girl who's had like slept with one other guy versus a girl who slept with 50 absolutely even
02:11:40
Unknown (23)for a one night stand give me a virgin [ __ ] it why not that's like a lot of lot I feel like age matters in this point a lot of older more mature men don't want like um women with a high body count but
02:11:51
Brian Atlassay younger men like they don't really care yeah I well if a guy but okay I think the the they can't I think for longterm relationship excuse me for long-term relationships they do care but
02:12:04
Emilylike if they're just trying to have a hookup it's Le it's not so much part of the calculus but at a younger age now like hookups lead to long-term relationships you know what is that such a backwards dating system like why are
02:12:16
Arielwe allowing hookups to be the basis of the beginning of a relationship go ahead technically in the brain there's three like brain systems involved with a
02:12:27
Arielrelationship and it's connection it's desire and it's romantic love and it can come in any order and you can still be in love and have a successful
02:12:38
Brian Atlasrelationship but I do understand what you're saying yeah well I I think that uh like most I would say a lot of
02:12:47
Brian Atlasrelationships it's not like let's date for 3 months not hook up get and then have sex I think I would say most relationships starts whether you think
02:12:58
Brian Atlasit's right or wrong uh I would say most relationships start people will hook up relatively soon continue hooking up and then they'll find themselves oh we like each other okay we're in a relationship
02:13:09
Brian Atlasnow does that is that necess you know could that be excuse me I'm getting Tongue Tied here does that inevitably lead to a lot of people casually hooking up and then not going anywhere and then
02:13:20
Brian Atlasthey're ramping up their body account yes um is it ideal probably probably not but is that kind of the meta I would say yeah that's how most relationships I think most relationships start it's
02:13:31
Brian Atlaspeople just they'll hook up continue hooking up oh we like each other boyfriend girlfriend blah blah or it's just Perpetual but then how many people are you going to hook up with until you find the one that you're going to date CU then you're just continuing to feed
02:13:43
Emilyinto hookup culture and you're continuing to make your body count higher and then continuing to play into men's desires I totally agree with you I
02:13:50
Arieljust am saying that it is possible for a couple that has had sexual um experiences with each other to fall in love later that is a possibility and actually I would say mo most of my
02:14:03
Brian Atlaslong-term relationships like I've had a 5-year relationship two-year relationship onee relationships I'm like you know 9 months 6 months whatever um all of my long-term relationships that
02:14:13
Brian Atlaswere otherwise good relationships uh we hooked up the F first second or third date like pretty quickly so do you think the I think what's more concerning and I
02:14:25
Carlydon't know if this is what you meant is the circumstance in which you met I feel like if you first of all are the type of person to go on many casual hookups with
02:14:37
Carlyanother person who's the type of person who go on many casual hookups um it's possible obviously but I don't know how successful that oh yeah she's a flight
02:14:47
Lauren RosesRight Flight yeah kind of snuck out of here didn't she oh yeah number Madison you you can actually scoot over a little bit if you'd like um
02:14:59
Carlywe're just going to get readjusted here who was sorry I for didn't mean to interrupt you there you're fine don't worry um I was just saying that I think what's more concerning is um the circumstance in which they met not necessarily that it was first to hook up
02:15:12
Emilydoes that make sense so like if they were to meet on like Instagram or meeting at a bar meeting in class like the circumstance how they met to that I think that like let's say two people
02:15:23
Carlymeet because they it's a one night stand M um I think what's less promising about the relationship is that it's two people who are likely to have a one night stand
02:15:34
Carlyyeah I agree I think if it's like a very rare occasion neither of you do that often it just so happens then it's a pretty high chance of that being successful CU like she said it's out of
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02:16:05
Brian Atlasbudget gone now big S was so true what me too I have no idea what he was saying s oh okay um sorry
02:16:16
Brian AtlasBrian I am a budget Con well hey valiv thank you uh for uh the TTS man appreciate it unfortunately yeah she uh dipped out I didn't even know uh I thought she was just going to the
02:16:26
Arielbathroom but uh okay so um you I think you were about to say something like well you you just have an example of oh a successful relationship
02:16:38
Carlyrelationship that came out of a one night stand but obviously you don't have to share if you don't want well is it really a one night stand oh oh oh oh yeah sorry um I I thought you were talking about me and I was really
02:16:49
Carlyconfused anyway but um allegedly allegedly i' I've never I just so it doesn't sound like I was about to say something else I'm a virgin and I'm waiting oh really
02:17:01
Carlyokay but it's not because I'm not waiting till marriage or anything crazy like that it's just I prefer to be like in love first sure but anyway so my parents um met in a one night stand and they've been together for 37 years now
02:17:13
Carlymy mom moved in two weeks after so oh and to be fair it was actually I don't know if it was a rare occasion for them I don't want to but I think my dad may be watching this actually I'm sorry yo
02:17:24
Carlywhat's up Dad how you doing it was Wednesday March 31st it was Wednesday March 31st oh you know the story too oh yeah he sat my friends down at 3 in the morning and told everybody the story
02:17:37
Carlyyeah it was very interesting what was the context of him telling the story to your friends um if you're watching this I love you Dad but he does tend to um show off a little bit in front of like I
02:17:48
Carlyhave I have um we had gone back to my hometown for my birthday and I brought my entire friend group and it is a lot of guys in my friend group and I I think
02:17:57
Carlyhe wanted to brag a little bit and yeah he started the conversation with um it was Wednesday March
02:18:06
Carly31 that's been stuck in our brains ever since okay yeah so your dad met your mom mhm one how how old were they by the way uh they both have had they had had a
02:18:19
Carlyprevious marriage so I believe they were okay early 30s uh they were both divorced at the time and yeah they met at a bar in New York he went home with her they hooked up and she moved in two
02:18:30
Brian Atlasweeks later and it's been 37 years now I believe oh wow yeah okay congrats there you go there you have it even a one night stand can lead to a long
02:18:41
Emilylasting that is definitely um the exception not the rule so no 100% people can meet and fall in love based off of one night stand but I don't think that that should be the 21st century absolutely not I agree definitely an
02:18:54
Brian Atlasexception we're agreeing could we also say like most even long-term relationships don't go the distance either so can we also say well it's also even in loving long-term relationships
02:19:06
Brian Atlasit's the exception not the rule that it ends up becoming a marriage that has lasted 30 like I mean you know we can kind of say the same about relationships too but out of
02:19:19
Carlycuriosity I feel like you would know the statistic when did marriages it's a 50% divorce rate I believe right at the moment 50% 523 okay it it depends on
02:19:30
Carlycertain demographics but yeah let's like it's I think 50% of marriages end say America right sure so do you know when that statistic started increasing in
02:19:42
Brian Atlasdivorces probably around I want to say 60s or 70s right I believe I don't know exactly when I want to say probably the around the time of the sexual Revolution with the introduction of birth control
02:19:55
Emilywhich was in the 60s that's what I figured which was also the first rise of like modern feminism so ever since 50s 60s to now divorce rates have increased sexual in uh sexual
02:20:06
Brian Atlaspromiscuity has increased hookup culture has increased obviously social media plays a role into that do you actually want to take her seat come to think of it just watch out for that mic there just so we get you into the frame better
02:20:18
Lauren Rosesmy question was is it true that I I haven't looked at the statistics but I promise that wasn't is the major cause of divorce still money is that is that the major is the major cause of divorce these days still money like finances is
02:20:30
Brian Atlasthat the major cause my understanding is when it comes to divorce the one of the primary contributing factors is uh financial difficulties is is a pretty big factor I messaged Brian about like
02:20:42
Lauren Rosesso there's apparently amongst Millennials um especially women um it men too but mostly Millennial women there's a lot of financial trauma I don't know what happened I don't know if it was 2008 I don't know if it was
02:20:54
Lauren Rosessomething that happened where their parents struggled and now women are like I got to earn I got to earn and and it it kind of puts the shell around them to they're not in a receiving mode and I
02:21:05
EmilyI'm so curious if that's one of the causes the major ones is money um because yes yes it is but a lot of it is Financial Security like with your partner and being able to provide for your family when you're talking about
02:21:17
Emilylike you know women needing to work I think honestly a lot of thought is more feminism with like you know being a corporate woman like I can do it on my own the boss bab energy waiting to have kids waiting to get married to where now
02:21:29
Emilyeven the marriage rate and our birth rate in America has decreased because women feel like that they need to provide have that simulation do you really feel like it's all women's fault like the second women were able to to provide for them for themselves they
02:21:41
Emilychose not to be with men what does that tell you about men I think hurt people hurt people I don't think it's women's faults at all but I do think that ever
02:21:51
Emilysince the 60s you know since modern feminism the more that women have put out in society I'm talking like corporate world if you look at the corporate Society for example yeah women
02:22:03
Emilynow are being told to stay and work longer because the corporations are benefiting off of women working yes at them so I mean it's not women's fault I'm not blaming women but I do think
02:22:15
Arielthat women have been bought into this lie that they've been sold do you think they're being submissive to their employment rather than to their man absolutely yeah fasc so what how do you how would you suggest that we could possibly fix this then uh therapy for
02:22:29
Arielfinancial trauma no but I think she's so are you like would you suggest
02:22:36
Arielthat women work less and seek out a like a husband to provide I'm just trying I me I'm working right like I
02:22:47
Emilymean I work right now I'm 23 I'm working you know to be financially independent myself 100% every woman you know is trying to be financially independent but I also think at the end of the day like when you're in a relationship what is
02:22:59
Carlythe point of being in a relationship work like balance sorry I don't want to interrupt anybody no you're good okay um I'm just a little confused on your take here do you think it's negative for women to be career-driven in a
02:23:12
Emilyrelationship it depends on the relationship 100% because I do think that there can be a relationship where relationships where the woman is the breadwinner and the man is stay-at home debt totally fine and that works for a
02:23:22
Emilylot of women but I also think that in society women are being told to work more in the corporate world which is being more detrimental to even their mental health I mean we've never seen this many women on anti-depressants
02:23:35
Emilywe've never seen this many women on anxiety medications birth control has effects on that and I think it's more of women aren't focused have skewed priorities they don't know I mean with the mental health thing I mean we
02:23:47
Carly (nursing)haven't seen this many people in general men or women on anpress and that's like I think that's like a big Fara thing I mean we're being sold this you know crap right so don't you think we should
02:23:57
Brian Atlasreject it I think 100% yeah I'm not for the the medicating yourself I think H life birth control anpress who's on birth control I used to be he's on birth control anybody currently on birth
02:24:08
Carly (nursing)control anybody okay just you all right okay one I mean it got rid of my acne like they help has helped me a lot actually it it can have some positive uh things but uh big boobs I do think I
02:24:21
Carlydidn't have them now sorry I'm trying really hard not to interrupt anyone go ahead go ahe I do think that mental illness in a lot of cases obviously not all is now more prevalent not only
02:24:32
Carlybecause of science but because it's kind of like a copout to be honest with you I agree I think a lot of people almost have a desire to be diagnosed with
02:24:42
Carlysomething maybe if it's not as an excuse as a form of uniqueness or oh defin true people want to be victims people definitely I completely agree with this this is a big thing in our industry is
02:24:55
Carlytalking about U the average person has such a victim mentality myself included before I got into what I'm doing for sure you used to like what how so um you you never want to be at fault for
02:25:07
Carlyanything um like like taking accountability yeah like and this is just a small example because it's like what I do for a living but like before I started lifting I thought like do you
02:25:17
Carlyguys know what Khloe Tang is yes workouts are so um just background information scientifically does not work at all it's the easy route that most women take especially in quarantine and
02:25:30
Carlysome of it is lack of knowledge but I feel like you kind of blame like oh well I just can't gain weight or I can't lose weight and that's only the case a very small percentage of the time that you
02:25:41
Carlygenuinely cannot and I said that my entire life cuz I was 85 lbs and then I researched weightlifting and nutrition and guess what 35 lbs first year when
02:25:51
Brian Atlasyou just start actually actively working mhm that's awesome and just likeing yourself on the right ways to do it's just like hey Round of Applause okay but
02:26:02
Carlygood for you good for you that's based um oh did you have more or I mean I I'm I'm losing my train I think that sorry go ahead I I think that back to the
02:26:12
Brian Atlasmental illness route people want to make excuses for themselves not to work wait Cojack in the chat says Spaghetti arms I lift I think he's calling you out I am still very skinny I'm let's see the
02:26:24
Carlytries come on come on she only a year and a half yeah I've also only been Lifting for a little you look and I gained 35 lbs in the one year that's a lot of progress if you ask me I
02:26:37
Arielwas really teeny tiny before it was bad but yeah couldn't be me word I don't know where we were going we were talking about the victim mentality there's definitely a lot of
02:26:49
Brian Atlaspoints I do want Circle back on because we were talking about body count we like we didn't really totally wrap up on that we also got a fit check here from Mr flan life so let's all do fit check we'll do a little stand up you know show us the fit what you just stand no
02:27:01
Brian Atlasspinning you can spin if you want we can I don't want I cuz the boot yeah that's fine tell us the brands of your boot though she unfortunately she has a you know you you hurt yourself correct or
02:27:11
Brian Atlasokay I guess you could oh damn nice that's a solid boot you got going on um does anybody have like a uh one of those
02:27:20
Arielankle monitors you want I think you do you have one an ankle an ankle why you asking me specifically I don't know I look like I would have an ankle monitor
02:27:30
Brian AtlasI don't know maybe um coming for you no no no no um so okay this is the fit are we can we get the most musular or do we I don't need I still don't understand double buy how about double buy she
02:27:42
Brian Atlasgoing spell another double buy another double bu where's the camera another double butt let's oh there's the ABS FL my oh what ziz let's see these can we
02:27:52
Brian Atlasget the ziz oh wait hold on play Legend by boom done what about you ziz loes oh I think they want to spin if you guys want
02:28:02
Brian Atlasto there's nothing I'm not spinning I'm just look at all right there you go flan life appreciate it thank you for that um okay let me get a couple chats then we'll come back to our conversation we
02:28:13
Brian Atlashave Tommy oh wait did I I think I read this one uh you did yeah I did Ladies by consensus says who at the table do you think would make the best wife for Brian and one okay um Brian do you agree I
02:28:24
Arielvote Carly she has a boyfriend uh the one with glasses um I think he's just saying that because you both look a little nerdy who wad thing it's not a bad thing it's not
02:28:37
Brian Atlasa bad thing I am a little I am a little n checks out checks out but uh um consens consensus at the table out of
02:28:46
Carlycuriosity how old are you 34 yeah no I think I don't think 19 and 34 is a Brian dates 18 and up who what the [ __ ] Brian said he dates 18 and up really well she's got a boyfriend okay
02:29:00
Brian Atlasso let's not you guys have cute chemistry a while have a strictly bus strictly business we work together she has a
02:29:13
Brian Atlasboyfriend I don't step on toe like Strictly Business platonic relation me and Frankie are home I have guy friends too I'm just saying but uh well I mean like in in ter I mean that's a whole
02:29:25
Brian Atlasanother conversation like age Gap dating but uh I mean actually most of the women I date are actually around my age recently I've been like some of the more recent women in say the past two or three years I've dated have actually
02:29:36
Brian Atlasbeen older than me um so but generally speaking I date women around my age but like I'll date anywhere from 18 to 45
02:29:44
Carlywhy not that's my my negotiating r find that um like just out of curiosity do you not find that not even just a maturity gap
02:29:55
Brian Atlasbetween you and 18-year-old but a relatability gap well and to be clear like of most of the women I've recently dated they're like late 20s early 30s
02:30:08
Brian Atlasbut like I'm not sit like if some [ __ ] babe who's 21 I'm not going to like be like ha no I'm not going to be like Hon you're
02:30:18
Carlytoo no sorry I think that 21 and 18 is also very different sure because 18 is like fresh out of high school like kid true so different and then 18 you're you
02:30:29
Unknown (23)are an adult but it's not like it's not like I'm trolling at college parties trying to find I'm not I'm there's also like 18y olds that are like way more mature than you think they would be
02:30:40
Brian Atlasbecause that actually I'm 18 or I'm 18 my boyfriend's 22 Yeah but that's fair I think that's but yeah that's more more acceptable me me personally though I don't have issues with age gaps if both
02:30:53
Brian Atlaspeople are adults I don't have an issue with it when it comes to the maturity thing though and Maddie raised actually a really good point uh as someone who's dated or like who's gone on dates or's
02:31:04
Brian Atlashad relation relationships with women my age older than me around my age there are some very very immature women who are 35 there are some women who are very
02:31:16
Brian Atlastoxic who are 35 there are some women who are 21 that are very pleasant and actually quite mature and the other thing when it comes to dating young actually we should react to a tap video because he's going to be able to
02:31:28
Brian Atlasarticulate this much better than me but someone who's younger has less relationship baggage it's more likely to have less relationship baggage lower body count and also like when it comes to physical
02:31:41
Brian Atlasattractiveness what men and women find physically attractive is fairly different so and they've done studies on this like it's not just like a Fringe group of men that find like 21-year-old
02:31:52
Brian Atlaswomen really attractive it's like across the board if you just if you ask most men and if they're going to be honest with you I mean if there's something to be said about certain people prefer
02:32:03
Brian Atlashearing uh comforting Lies Over uncomfortable truths the fact of the matter is like if you ask most men they would say when it comes to purely physical attractiveness not talking
02:32:13
Brian Atlasabout relatability or uh things in common women between the age of like I think 21 to 2 is when most men will agree that's like the peak of the the
02:32:24
Brian Atlaspeak age group of women that they find the most physically attractive strictly on that metric um and look as we age you know we maybe gain a bit of weight some
02:32:34
Brian Atlaspeople can get physically fitter but you know you're you're you start going under you know wrink wrinkly skin you become less physically attractive as you get
02:32:44
Brian Atlasolder um so and they they have done studies on this though women typically like as women age they tend to find men like one or two years older than them
02:32:55
Brian Atlaslike the most attractive MH and then but for men it's like pretty much stagnant like yeah 20 21 21 like even into men PE men being 40 like that's the most
02:33:07
Lauren Rosesphysically attractive age I was 21 and I dated a 45y old andol but but what I found was like you said it I think that I was
02:33:19
Lauren Rosesthinking oh my gosh relationship marriage I was thinking that at 21 I I was thinking that but I was a vacation for him apparently and it wasn't like a a sex work thing it was I didn't realize that he had gotten out of a big
02:33:31
Morganrelationship he I didn't know about it I was a his vacation so I'm like that could be something and I'm like okay I get it now um when Matt and I started
02:33:41
Brian Atlasdating I was 22 and he was 34 and I was actually coming onto him really strong you were oh you were okay you were 22 he was 34h yeah I nothing wrong with that
02:33:54
Morganbut you were the one really pursuing him yeah I was like really into it and at first he was like oh is she a little too young but then yeah he got to know me and realized oh for 22 she's actually mature and yeah and it seemed kind of
02:34:06
Morganlike it was sort of a similar thing because he had just been seeing someone who was about his age and she was like as as far as he said she was like kind of a downer and things like that I
02:34:19
Carly (nursing)was like refreshing that's the same thing so I think like age gaps yeah totally it could be hit or miss yeah but statistically people marry in date within 3 years of their age I mean
02:34:30
Carly (nursing)that's yeah interesting but also I mean I also I read this one this it kind of grossed me out this one study that they like they connected so they showed pictures of women of different ages to different men and they connected their
02:34:41
Brian Atlasbrains to it and their brains reacted most to women who were like 16 I haven't heard of that study I don't know about I couldn't quote it and I
02:34:54
Carly (nursing)mean maybe I'll look it up I think honestly when I when I was like 16 I think my dad told me about it so was like deep in my brain I just thought I've never heard of that and I've been
02:35:05
Brian Atlasbut um I don't know like I'm trying to think where where I was going with this um yeah well I mean just a point of clarification like as I mentioned like
02:35:15
Brian Atlaswould I date someone who's 19 20 21 I would but I'm not like hanging out at [ __ ] college parties trying to meet like I don't go to bars I don't go to clubs like I'm not real but
02:35:26
Brian Atlasif some [ __ ] baddy 21-year-old DMS me I'm not going to say I'm not going to be like sorry no like I'm yeah it's so uh not
02:35:38
Carlyinterest this is a this is a purely personal standpoint but um I feel that if um a man who I think my cut off is
02:35:49
Carlyprobably like 25 26 which is still pretty it's a pretty large age gap for 19 but if a man who's 25 or 26 years old knowing my age reaches out to me that
02:36:01
Carlyraises some concern for me and I would like to consider myself mature for my age I don't want to blatantly say that cuz I don't know but even even with the oh like well she the same maturity level
02:36:13
Lauren RosesI would still view it as kind of concerning just life experience wise almost like they ad in just that it's kind of like in those adult videos they go 19yearold 18 just just turned 18 barely barely 18 I I don't know I I know
02:36:27
Carlywhat you mean I don't think they're going out of their way they shouldn't be advertising that solely yeah I I don't think they're going out of their way for that one sole reason but sometimes it can imply and obviously this has to do
02:36:39
Carlywith their personal history that um they as an older man can't like maybe girls their age know better almost does that make sense funky no not really not really I think it's uh I think it's
02:36:51
Brian Atlaspretty simple like younger women are better looking lower body count less baggage and this this is a biological component to it they're better bet for fertility so like for example I mean
02:37:02
Brian Atlasobviously we're using like biology you know women women who are 25 are still you know even into their late 20s are still very fertile however like say
02:37:12
Brian Atlasyou're a guy who's in his late 30s and you want to have kids once you hit 35 as a woman you can still have kids but
02:37:21
Brian Atlasyou're starting to get into uh high-risk pregnancy territory so as a guy um Nick hello um as a guy let's say you want to have kids you want to have a
02:37:33
Brian Atlasfamily and you want maybe you want to have a lot of kids a woman say you're 39 dating a woman your age is not the best bet when it comes to fertility if you're 39 and you're going to date a 38y old
02:37:47
Brian Atlasokay by the time you guys get married maybe you're both 40 then she's 40 maybe you can you're lucky to have one kid like a guy who's in his late 30s is probably going to want to try to date
02:37:58
Lauren Roseslike a woman who's 29 28 how do guys feel about sexual surrogacy sexual surrogacy yeah like if the woman can't then then are they like
02:38:08
Lauren Rosesyou know what like I want a family with you but let's find a woman that like how how do they feel about well I think it's very simple if he wants to have kids then they just then it's probably just
02:38:18
TTS Donationsit's probably best for you too to not get involved with him because he the prospects of long-term relationshipone want kids 99 yeah ran my boet is being
02:38:29
TTS Donationsquiet and modest about her Fitness she's an ASM certified trainer completed an 8-day fast no food with me that reset her hormones and prepped for BB
02:38:40
Morgancompetition check the whatever EG I sent transform nice can I ask what division I didn't end up competing cuz I I'm not going to trauma dump Brian don't worry
02:38:52
Morganbut um I just had a lot of family things go on and I like stopped my prep like right when I was about to but I was going to do NPC how did you f so I actually want to start it again I actually lost a lot of weight I gained
02:39:03
Morganlike a lot of weight during Co was it bini yeah uh it was bikini yeah that I was prepping for yeah that's awesome yeah yeah I'm curious about the 8 day fast that reset your hormones did it do
02:39:14
Morganthat um I mean basically just whenever you fast it I mean your body is like completely resetting itself what do you eat so yeah no you don't water water mineral water right mineral water yeah
02:39:26
Morganexactly so you don't like deplete your nutrients but yeah wow yeah but it's it's great for you it has a lot of Health yeah no calories at all nothing yeah just just like salt and magnesium
02:39:38
Arielwater my my dad did a f a fast for 21 days with just water wow cool did he I think he his main concern was that he had an UL in a
02:39:49
Brian Atlasstomach and I think it fixed it I Let's uh let's just bring it back to the conversation we were having so I mean you were you were mentioning something about you know what what does someone who's younger say someone who's 21 have
02:40:02
Brian Atlasin common with someone who's for example 31 yeah but I mean I would argue that the that having things in common with someone is very low on the totem pole of
02:40:14
Brian Atlaswhat makes you attracted to somebody it's a POS like if oh we like the same music but like how that's not going to be the primary attraction trigger for anybody because I'm sure for every
02:40:26
Brian Atlassingle girl here you've you've known a guy who you have tons of [ __ ] in common with but you would never date him so this idea that commonality or having
02:40:35
Brian Atlasthings in common is really important like I don't care if my girlfriend if she likes the same music as me cool I guess but it's very very low priority on
02:40:47
Brian Atlasthe totem pole to the point of being kind of so negligent it's so negligent negligent NE negligible I think okay I sorry I think that I worded it wrong I
02:40:59
Carlyfor lack of better words I I don't think that having things in common in general is important but obviously age gaps is a super nuanced topic like there's a lot
02:41:09
Carlyof opinions on it but um for lack of better words relatability I feel like would apply to like a general census like me personally I would like this is
02:41:20
Carlya random General example I would like to date somebody who has a similar job to me that's a different area of life but I feel like there's just some things that are kind of non-negotiable like you'd want to date someone with the same
02:41:33
Carlymorals you know stuff like that I feel like it's more on that tier list and obviously it depends for every person but well yeah I mean but I I could point
02:41:44
Brian Atlasout for example like there are women who are 21 for example that don't go to bars don't don't go go to clubs they're not really drinking They Don't Really party I don't drink I don't go to bars I don't go to clubs I don't do drugs not interested in any of that [ __ ] there's
02:41:57
Brian Atlasplenty of women who are 30 that still go to [ __ ] Raves and they're still out they're [ __ ] alcoholics and they're drinking every single weekend and they're clubbing and partying and hooking up that's not the type of girl I
02:42:07
Brian Atlaswant so I mean you can find people across various age groups that align with you in terms of whether it's
02:42:17
Brian Atlasinterest whether it's relability um I would relate much more to a girl who's say 21 who doesn't go to bars doesn't go to clubs doesn't drink
02:42:27
Brian Atlasdoesn't party doesn't do drugs then a girl who's 31 who's closer to my age who still [ __ ] goes to Raves and parties and drinks and does drugs like so M I
02:42:40
Carlyactually think you swayed my opinion on this oh agree with you more but I would just like I think that sorry no and it's fine to think how like yeah know I I just think um I would definitely still
02:42:51
Carlylike if I see with no context around it a 34y old man and a 19-year-old girl I'm going to be concerned right off the bat until you get more cont the frame of
02:43:01
Carly (nursing)reference too I mean like how is a 34 year-old man in a 19 year-old girl going to have like the same like you know like they're not even going to be into the same things I mean I I understand how
02:43:14
Lauren Rosesthey can get along or whatever maybe like you're saying but oh I'll put her on to some Game of Thrones I think that's kind of like hot when an older guy like shows I cute but I mean
02:43:24
Carly (nursing)like what if I got the shows I know the good shows well also you're um you know I mean I'm assuming like you know like you you you you have money and what not so maybe you can take care and whatever
02:43:35
Carly (nursing)but but do you feel like maybe like what if she's in a different stage of life than you like you have an established career right and she is you know just her she's in her sophomore year of college like you don't feel like that
02:43:48
Brian Atlasdifferent stage of life kind of makes a a difference for you I suppose it depends like obviously I know a lot of girls who are in college like especially
02:43:56
Brian Atlasuh I know if you guys are s sorry about motorcycle passing by super loud uh a lot of girls who are in college not all of them but like a fair amount of them especially here this is UCSB is pretty
02:44:09
Brian Atlasclose to us UC Santa Barbara it's a major party school so a lot of girls for example who are in college they they like to go out on the weekends party go clubbing that type of girl probably ain't it for me like I'm not really interested in that that kind of girl but
02:44:21
Brian Atlasthere's plenty of girls who are in college who are probably a little more studious they aren't really into partying not really into that whole thing that's kind of like not not what I was getting at I I was yeah different
02:44:32
Brian Atlasstage of life like she's just getting established like yeah and maybe you're more ready cuz you're 34 right well let me just reiterate again I'm not at college parties trolling like trying to pick up chicks but like again like if it happened to be like you know if I have
02:44:46
Brian Atlasand I haven't been on dating apps in over a year but if I was on a dat dating app and like she her her age setting like we matched on a dating app cool if
02:44:55
Brian Atlaswe she dm'd me cool if through some way we met organically cool but it's not like I'm I'm like really targeting
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Brian Atlasspecific group demics I again like let me reiterate like most the vast majority of the women I've dated in the past say re in most of them
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Unknown (23)I'd say are around my age and actually quite a few of them have been older than me you could also be at different stages of life but like have commonality and like where like what you want in someone like think about the 19-year-olds that
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Unknown (23)are with 50-year-old sugar daddies like she they want the money um the older men want the younger woman like Leonardo Dicaprio and like his 20 years old they're not going to end up together and marry each other and have babies
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Carly (nursing)together but like how many how many I mean yeah yeah there are those exceptions I agree how many 19-year-old girls though would like like be 100
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Brian Atlas[ __ ] per down to get with like a male celebrity who's in his 30s like wasn't it Leonardo capr
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Carly (nursing)would a lot I me I'm saying Leonardo Deca cleaning up yeah he's Gotan celebrities are like a different topic I mean I I feel like we're talking I mean like I would hope that this podcast is
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Carly (nursing)about like you know like cuz people who watch us they're all celebrities it's about modern dating right we're not talking about people with clouds but I also think there's plenty but that is modern day I was going to say I think there's plenty of women there's plenty
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Emilyof women who are mature enough out of young age who are ready to get married who are ready to have kids who don't have a high body count I mean you can be 19 20 21 I know plenty of people even in college that got engaged to people that were maybe older and graduated 28 29 but
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Brian Atlasjust because they're younger doesn't mean they're not mentally or physically ready for any of those life experiences I completely agree I was let me just add one point to what she said I would actually argue like men have a little
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Brian Atlaslonger period of time to get their life figured out uh because of like child birth that sort of stuff uh so I actually think the perfect time for a girl to like try to lock in a long-term
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Brian Atlaspartner is actually when you're young it's not when you're in your 30s like you have your your you are at your strongest let's say negotiating position when between the ages of like let's say
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Brian Atlas18 to 25 you can lock down like pretty much the best partner then so a lot and what happens is a lot of women Focus career and hey I'm I think career is
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Emilyfine I think F negotiating like that's when you're at your like you're at your Prime when you're between the ages of 19 to 25 as a woman you can find your most optimal partner at that point because
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Emilylike Brian said if you're chasing your career and you're 26 27 28 then a man as you're getting older is not going to want to marry you as much the older that you get it's crazy how you guys like are
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Carly (nursing)like anti sex or an anti- prostitution or whatever but yet this is giving the same kind of energy what do you mean I mean she has a certain value at this age