HEATED DEBATE Liberals vs. Conservatives vs. SHAMAN?! | Dating Talk #89
Date: 2023-08-02
Duration: 5h 30m
Guests
Brian AtlasIdentified Speakers
SPEAKER_01Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_02Morgan(guest)
SPEAKER_04Lauren Roses(guest)
SPEAKER_07Carly(guest)
SPEAKER_08Emily(guest)
SPEAKER_09Ariel(guest)
SPEAKER_10Unknown (23)(guest)
SPEAKER_11Carly (nursing)(guest)
SPEAKER_12Isabella(guest)
Key Moments
00:03:41
QuoteLauren Roses introduces herself as working at a brothel, age 30
“hi my name is Lauren roses and I work at a brothel and I'm also a musician age uh 30”
00:11:00
QuoteLauren coins 'bordello' as YouTube-safe term for brothel after Brian prompts her
“it's um what is a bord th that's a wi legal red light oh bordell bord that works okay I'm going to say bordell I like that sounds”
00:14:01
QuoteLauren explains spiritual/healing dimension of her sex work at the bordello
“sexual Shamanism they teach Tantra they teach all that and I believe that when I really connect with people emotionally”
00:27:12
QuoteLauren reveals her body count is 500+ (triple digits to over 1000) as a professional
“it's like triple digits or less than that trip like more than 100 yeah I mean I would I would think so after all those years”
00:53:01
QuoteBrian confirms second Carly's nickname 'cat' while addressing her pre-show messages
“okay so cat you in your pre-show messages to us you had indicated sorry I'm getting this pulled up that you're not”
01:40:01
QuoteMorgan discloses body count of 14
“yeah so 14 I I counted for this show I never really thought to even count or anything actually”
01:40:37
QuoteSPEAKER_10 discloses body count of 8, expresses regret
“it's it's eight but I feel like I was at like a time in my life where I felt like I had to do it”
03:29:29
QuoteBrian confirms Morgan's name on stream after viewer donation
“donated 69 Morgan how do you say anything name Morgan it's just Morgan okay uh you are making a lot of great points”
04:23:51
QuoteCarly (19) estimates ~95% of female fitness influencers do OnlyFans
“I would say around 95% it's not even um in our industry it's of um sex because let's be honest everybody who's a fitness influencer”
05:24:04
QuoteEmily delivers closing anti-feminist statement
“feminism has absolutely plagued America scientific that us women make connections with men and Body Count does matter”
Topics Discussed
00:00:00
Guest introductions and relationship statuses
Brian introduces show, guests introduce themselves with age/occupation. Go around table on relationship status. Notable: Lauren Roses explains she works at a legal Nevada bordello (calls it 'bordello' to avoid YouTube demonetization).
00:14:00
Lauren Roses: sex work background and spiritual healing
Extended discussion of Lauren's career path: Baptist upbringing, dancing at Vegas clubs (Spearmint Rhino, Cheetah), escort work from age 21, current work at bordello. Studies sexual shamanism/tantra at ISTA. Views sex work as 'spiritual healing.' Had brief pimp; regrets it. Mother worked in missing persons.
00:33:40
Dating famous people / celebrity DMs
Panel goes around table on dating or receiving DMs from celebrities. Highlights: Carly (19) dates Chris Tren (fitness YouTuber); Carly (26) dated a billionaire heir who owned a basketball team; Lauren had NDAs with comedian, NFL players, Saudi prince; Morgan's fiance is an actor in Amazon Prime WWII film; SPEAKER_10 got DMs from City Morgan (rapper).
01:00:00
Religion, spirituality, and values
Who on panel is religious. SPEAKER_10 and Isabella identify as Christians. Morgan raised Baptist, now spiritual. Lauren raised Baptist, now into shamanism/tantra. Discussion on how their backgrounds shaped views.
01:00:00
Sex work, sugar daddies, and OnlyFans
Multi-topic discussion: stripping vs OnlyFans (Carly 26 preferred in-person work over OF), sugar daddy experiences (Carly 26 had several, no sex), Emily stepped away from OF, Lauren on the spectrum of sex work. Open relationships, pimp dynamics.
01:48:20
Body count debate
Extended panel debate on whether body count matters in relationships. Various viewpoints: Isabella/Emily (body count matters, correlates with pair bonding issues), Carly 26 (nuanced, about self-control), Morgan (her body count is 14, happy in relationship). Video clip reactions (SPEAKER_05 clips). Statistical claims about oxytocin/dopamine differences between sexes.
02:25:00
Age gaps in dating
Discussion of age gap relationships. Brian argues evolutionary basis for men preferring younger women (fertility window). Lauren dated 45yo at 21. Morgan dated 34yo at 22. Panel debate on maturity vs. experience in age-gap relationships.
04:25:00
Fitness industry and OnlyFans normalization
Carly (19) discusses that ~95% of women fitness influencers do OnlyFans. Frustration at assumption that fitness influencers do OF. Economics: men make more in fitness industry; women supplement with OF.
04:51:40
Virgins and sexual experience debate
SPEAKER_05 video clip reaction (man arguing love > sex experience). Panel discussion on whether virginity/low body count predicts sexual satisfaction. Brian argues for both positions.
05:20:00
Final wrap-up: hookup culture and feminism
Emily delivers anti-feminist closing statement. Morgan defends body count/hookup culture as personal choice. Carly (26) acknowledges she's against hookup culture even if she doesn't judge individuals. Show wraps at ~5:30hrs.
Transcript
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00:55:19
Arielwell yeah blue check marks but there's not anyone that I would specifically think about and be like oh yeah yeah they're like a celebrity or anything like that what about yeah there was one
00:55:31
Arielrapper that I would get comments about being like Oh so and so follows you and Drake No no no I mean I'll name drop it was zillakami but he never dm'd me and
00:55:42
Brian Atlasum who the f is that guy yeah right City morg you never heard of city morg yeah I told car about '90s Grunge music so it's Grunge music but it's oh really yeah
00:55:53
Arielit's grung R oh yeah anyways I know who he was and I told Carly and she was like what why didn't you fall him back that's pretty much it that's it come on come on I feel like you think I'm hiding
00:56:05
Morgansomething every time I answer come on what about you um I mean yeah whenever I would get blue check or when I do um it's usually just like basketball players football players
00:56:17
Morganthings like that like musicians um personalities it's things like that and it's always like in my uh whatever it is where like you don't follow them and but there's just so many messages in there
00:56:28
Morganand I honestly just don't like care that much so I never really pay attention but yeah there's definitely been quite a few because I have like relative like 100
00:56:38
Emilyplusk followers so that I think that just happens with that yeah okay I don't really have any I mean there's occasional people sliding in the DMS but I feel like every girl deals with that and I just ignore most of them like
00:56:50
Isabelladon't initiate conversation because it's like just no point mhm yeah I mean I feel like I do get like a lot but I also really don't entertain a lot of them and I'm going to be completely honest I'm not going to
00:57:01
Isabellaname drop but I would say maybe about 80% of the DMS that I received that are from Blue check marks are from men with families and are like full-blown marriages
00:57:11
Brian Atlaswhat so that's mostly that's mostly why I don't entertain it good times yeah good good wife's name in the bio but maybe but like you're a political commentator so is it like when
00:57:24
Isabellayou say they're dming you are they just like saying oh I like your content or is it clear that they're like oh you're hot like romantically interested type [ __ ] no there are times where like I'm I'm able to like decipher kind of when it comes through and a lot of them are
00:57:37
Isabellamessage requests when they come through like able to see like what they're saying and so a lot of times like I'm able to like decipher like okay this is clearly like work related and you're clearly 47 years old with the fob and
00:57:50
Brian Atlasfamily and you're messaging me for one reason and one reason only so okay got it damn that's just oh uh Nar n okay yeah it's it's pretty
00:58:02
Brian Atlasinteresting we've defin we've had a lot of girls on the panel say oh yeah and I think some of you are like maybe a little more out there in the sense that you guys are content creators and you're making content so some of you have pretty decent followings but we've we've
00:58:15
Brian Atlashad some girls on the show who are college students thousand Instagram followers and they're like yep NFL player dming me NBA player dming me and it's just interesting cuz I was like I
00:58:26
Brian Atlaswas thinking about the reverse and like there's not like famous female athletes F like Taylor Swift isn't dming some like 19 year old College dude the same way Drake is like you know probably
00:58:38
Brian Atlas[ __ ] sliding into some like 19-year-old baddi's [ __ ] DM so it's pretty interesting like the uh the difference there um which I think like dating culture has been completely distorted by social media cuz if you
00:58:50
Emilylook at it women we are constantly getting messages men aren't usually getting those messages and just see how detrimental I mean social media is not only psychologically just in general but how it's impacted dating culture
00:59:03
Emilyspecifically that's honestly why I stepped away from it it was just when you stop like sex work or like from social media um from social media
00:59:13
Carly (nursing)specifically I mean sex work I quit I quit Dancing because of Co and um you because I kind of had to but yeah the social media thing I just I just realized how toxic it was and I mean I
00:59:26
Carly (nursing)don't I don't like to feel like I'm constantly being watched and like feel like the obligation to keep posting and posting and posting so it's just not the thing for me I do have a question so you said that social media was like
00:59:38
Isabelladetrimental to you do you feel that like any of like the dancing or like the sex work you did was also detrimental to you in the same way no honestly um I'm like
00:59:47
Carly (nursing)super pro in-person sex work I'm really and not like anti but like for me personally just like only fans was like the most toxic kind of sex work I ever
00:59:58
Emilydid interesting did you ever feel how do sorry go ahead go ahead no I was gonna say did you ever feel fulfilled doing that type of work 110% I think it depends for everyone
01:00:11
Isabellalike where your fulfillment comes from you know if I find fulfillment in things of this world I think I'm going to be constantly let down and disappointed as opposed to like finding my fulfillment
01:00:20
Brian Atlasfrom like my religion and God and the Bible right speaking of which who here is religious maybe let's just do show of hands do you consider yourself religious
01:00:30
Brian Atlasshow of hands um if spiritual consider Rel Define religious let's say Okay are is anyone here uh either Christian Muslim or Jewish oh Jewish
01:00:43
Brian Atlasyeah wait okay I mean I was raised I was raised Jewish but okay so um wait so okay you said I
01:00:55
Unknown (23)don't know where I yeah I think it's just me and Isabella Christians yeah well I like I go to Christian church now but I was raised as like I was raised in Mormon church yeah
01:01:05
MorganI'm a man of God I was raised Baptist but now you're spiritual yes what made you like when did that kind of transition happen um well I was kind of honestly back and forth like in my I
01:01:17
Morganmean I'm 26 but like my younger 20s I was kind of like okay I would consider myself Christian and then I would feel way more connected to like the universe and spirituality and like that kind of
01:01:27
Morganthing so I think it just kind of happened over time where I just kind of wasn't feeling connected at all to like the Bible or like the church or like
01:01:38
Morganeven really like the idea of Jesus I it just wasn't feeling like connected your fiance religious at all he's he's sort of spiritual as well yeah yeah wait just okay so to bring it back to you you said
01:01:50
Brian Atlaswhen you were doing uh the work in person you found that to be more rewarding than doing off so like releasing content online when you say doing work in person
01:02:01
Carly (nursing)what do you mean were you you're you were a dancer correct correct were you also engaging in the same type of work that she was doing um I mean I was just
01:02:11
Carly (nursing)stripping I had like sugar daddies but like not but I never like slept with any of them I had like guys what yeah I never slept with any of them I never had sex with them I never had sexual acts
01:02:23
Brian Atlaswith them I mean you're not I mean I I know that's a thing I know that's a thing but it's like where's the sugar you know like you're not I mean can I explain sure they're like pay pigs kind
01:02:35
Carly (nursing)of not really so I mean I would hang out with them in person so as a stripper in Las Vegas like it's pretty common to have a guy to come ask you like oh I do want to hang out whatever and I always
01:02:45
Carly (nursing)make it like pretty clear like I'm not willing to you know do extra stuff but they would rather like pay you than pay the club so I mean I had this one guy
01:02:56
Carly (nursing)like and he he took me shopping and we had a great time and he was just like super thrilled because he just liked that um I was like showing him around Vegas like you know and this didn't
01:03:09
Carly (nursing)happen like all the time like this is like very like few men I'm not saying this is like a super common occurrence this like I danced for seven years it's probably happened like three to four
01:03:20
Carly (nursing)times in that whole time so I'm not trying to like like Advocate or like promote any of that like yeah in what ways you mean escorting no um just like
01:03:31
Carly (nursing)because I know that a lot of like sex workers will kind of I think lie and be like oh like I don't have to do anything like guys just pay me to hang out like
01:03:41
Unknown (23)yes that does happen but it's very rare okay I was going to ask in what ways did you think you're like in person and like physical work was better than
01:03:53
Carly (nursing)your online work well what I really like to about the in-person work is that I would go to work I would you know pay my house fee work and then come home and it
01:04:03
Carly (nursing)was over with only fans it's like constant like it is it's your whole life and I'm the kind of person where I just like to clock in and clock out and
01:04:13
Brian Atlasthat's how like stripping was for me so okay well you mentioned sugar daddies um I'll go around the table really quick on this anyone else here had the sugar daddy have you ever had a sugar sug
01:04:25
Brian AtlasDaddy no have you had the offer for sugar daddy like a guy who's in your DMs he's like I'll pay you $1,000 a week if you talk to me type [ __ ] offers yes I've
01:04:34
Brian Atlasnever ever taken one sure you've had quite a few correct well I mean not like a lot but yeah a couple here and there okay
01:04:45
Carly (nursing)um and typically these are wealthy men correct not always actually I have this guy now and I have I quit sex work like what three years ago and he still just
01:04:56
Brian Atlaspays me he's a pay Pig and he just he doesn't make a lot of money but he just sends me money every here and there and and it's nice when you say okay so he's a pay Pig he sends you money here and there you guys don't hook up do anything
01:05:09
Carly (nursing)I've never met him in person you've never met okay yeah um how much does he send you I mean it really depends on the
01:05:19
Carly (nursing)month um right now he's he got let off from his job so it's been zero for like three or four months now but when he was paying you how much was he sending you
01:05:29
Carly (nursing)um I want to say the like like this past year probably like 4 to 800 a month four to 8 800 a month yeah do you think he's watching the show right now I did send
01:05:42
Brian Atlashim the link yo buddy redirect your finances here I'll help you out um okay so um are
01:05:52
Carly (nursing)do you currently have any other uh sugar daddies or guys like this actually it's really interesting so um you know how that whole like Adam 22 thing happened so I commented on a Tik Tok video mind
01:06:05
Carly (nursing)you I have I only have like 500 followers on Tik Tok I commented damn I want a man like Adam 22 and this guy hit me up on my Instagram like he went
01:06:16
Carly (nursing)through the process of trying to find me and he was like I want to pay you and he did Super yes recently was it it was
01:06:27
Brian Atlasjust like a onetime payment yeah did did you send him anything in return like photos we facetimed one FaceTime how much did he pay you for the singular
01:06:38
Brian AtlasFaceTime 100 bucks okay that's yeah how long was the FaceTime like 30 minutes or like a few minutes yeah like less than 10 what's the I I don't with the so you
01:06:49
Brian Atlassaid you want a guy like Adam 22 so you want a guy who's okay with his partner [ __ ] another dude no um I just like how Adam 22 was like very comfortable
01:07:01
Carly (nursing)with like first of all like you know Lena or Lena yeah I think Lena Lena um being like a sex worker and then he you know was supporting her career um I
01:07:12
Isabellapersonally like I'm I prefer monogamy in my relationships but I just liked that he was supporting her career and like allowed her to do that scene I feel like that doesn't really make him like supportive I kind of feel like it makes
01:07:25
Isabellahim a pimp like he let his wife go get like afed by another man like honestly like that's so humiliating for him I think it's such an embarrassment to marriage and like the like what a husband should be like I don't think
01:07:37
Carly (nursing)like anyone should strive for that in a partner at all if anything it benefited him um like he got money not really I mean I mean do you think that their finances are together or do you think
01:07:48
Carly (nursing)they have their own separate finances married I mean they're married people who are married don't necessarily have joint accounts all the time I mean like sure he's benefiting from her work and
01:07:59
Emilyher Fame directly links to him and so I mean which makes him a pimp which he's pimping out his wife essentially allowing him to do these things and the other thing is they have young children
01:08:10
Carly (nursing)like that are going to grow up and like see this and I mean I've you know I've been a sex well not anymore but I was a sex a sex worker for a long time and all I'm going to say I don't know their
01:08:22
Carly (nursing)situation so I can't comment on that I can't like I I feel like you're kind of um assuming things that you don't really know about necessar it's pretty fair to say he's a
01:08:32
Isabellapimp for letting his wife get effed you know for money because he's getting paid even if their finances are separate don't tell me he had no benefits to this
01:08:41
Carly (nursing)at all I mean as a as a sex worker I had a boyfriend while I was doing sex work and he allowed me to do it and I was
01:08:51
Unknown (23)just stripping I wasn't having sex for money but I mean our money was 100% he allow you to do it or did he put like did he ADV advocate for you doing it he
01:09:01
Isabellaadvocated for it okay he was like super allowing yeah allowing advocating were you buying him any gifts or giving him anything or paying for anything in the no we were actually very much in the
01:09:12
Emilymiddle like I I made it clear like this is what I pay for this what this is what you pay for do you think a woman should be allowed by her husband to engage in sex work while married like do you think
01:09:23
Isabellathat would ever be appropriate yes I I think if it's between the couple doesn't that defeat the point of being married though like if a marriage is a union between a man and a woman and they're
01:09:34
Carly (nursing)committed to each other then what's the point of like going outside of that I think everybody's relationship is different and I can't sit here and judge or make any like standards for somebody else's relationship I mean I guess I understand
01:09:47
Carly (nursing)that but I guess I'm more so saying that like marriage is like a union like a legal you're religious right so so you see marriage as something different some people don't feel it like that and and I
01:09:58
Isabellarespect where you're coming from 110% um but I the way I feel is just I can't comment on somebody else's relationship well legally and religiously marriage is I feel it's a pretty Universal Universal marriage even
01:10:10
Emilyif it's not if they're non-religious for example but they're married by the state a man and a woman together I mean if a woman is still engaging in sex work I mean every day that's basically cheating on her husband M on the other side What
01:10:21
Carly (nursing)is marriage then yeah what what would that but okay so I I'll do the red pill blue pill thing I mean some red pillers will say that it's okay for men to cheat
01:10:33
Carly (nursing)and women to not and I also think that cheating to me is lying if you're open with your partner about what you're doing people have open marriages so if you're open with your partner about what
01:10:43
Carly (nursing)you're doing then I don't consider it cheating like cheating equals lying to me I mean obviously you guys have different values than me so and I respect
01:10:53
Morganthat I'll just say um my one of my good friends started dating a corn star about 2 years ago and they're like one of the
01:11:04
Morganhappiest couples that I've like ever met in my entire life so I just think like things in relationships is completely up to like those two people does she do it
01:11:13
Morganas well he doesn't do it she's an active oh okay she's active yeah she's active wait just and so your friend is the male
01:11:22
Morgancorrect yeah mhm and she does BG boy girl content and girl girl yeah she does both yeah and they're still together mhm they're like so happy she was already
01:11:32
Morganone when they like got together and started dating and why does she have the desire to continue being in the corn industry if she's well I actually think she's trying to like really grow in it because she's making like Bank actually
01:11:45
Morganyeah yeah I'm pretty sure that that's the thing yeah yeah I mean don't get me wrong I mean I'm totally like a monogamous type of person too but I just think that if people feel good and can
01:11:57
Morganbe happy like doing that kind of thing I don't see anything wrong with it if I but I do get the religious side too because I was for a very long time and like at that point in my life I probably would also have been like oh my God why
01:12:08
Brian Atlaswould someone do that as a guy as a guy I I mean look I know people have different viewpoints on a wide variety of different topics but the idea of my
01:12:19
Emilygirl [ __ ] another guy like my girlfriend is [ __ ] disgusting MH I think it's gross and you're valid to feel that way yeah it's just I don't know how anybody could think that that's
01:12:31
Emilynot gross but if you're engaging in sex with somebody else other than your partner that you're committed to it outside of just like cheating on the other person it's dirty and I mean even psychologically and statistically the
01:12:44
Isabellamore people that you're sleeping with it's also harming your relationships I just yeah I just don't see I guess how people can see themselves being married long term like that because for for me I feel like you're trying again it goes back to the Fulfillment thing you're
01:12:56
Isabellatrying to find fulfillment in these things that are not going to make you happy and it keeps escalating you said your friend right she does like boy girl girl content I don't believe that she started off doing that I feel like she
01:13:07
TTS Donationspromethus $100 thank you promethus hey Brian are you aware of lizard body shaming my apology for the interruption of the conversation being presented # flannel Bros for Life yeah thank you
01:13:19
EmilyPrometheus appreciate it flannel Bros for life um aware of the lizo body shaming you hear this is there lizo body shamed her backup dancers and also
01:13:30
Brian Atlasforced them to eat bananas off of I think sex let's keep it tame here um yeah I heard I heard the story but is it
01:13:40
Emilyshe Bonnie shamed yeah she said that they were like too overweight her backup dancers which is is so funny irony of that um I think I saw something about
01:13:51
Carly (nursing)that I'm not sure how it's not particularly related to uh dating though I have a question what's up with uh like lizo I feel like cuz I've watched his podcast a few times like why does lizo
01:14:03
Carly (nursing)like why is she like the the one like overweight woman that gets brought up like what about it Dell or like the rest I mean we don't really bring up lizo I don't know I she get brought up a
01:14:15
Isabellalot no I think we've maybe brought her up like three or four podcast um just all the ones I watched she's also the one that I feel like that's like very
01:14:25
Isabellalike puts herself out there sorry puts herself out there a lot so I feel like that's probably why a I think she glorifies her obesity yeah I think that's where it becomes a problem for
01:14:35
Brian Atlaspeople yeah I think the context where we have brought lizo up is is lizo a 10 yeah so like when we do like what do you rate yourself on a scale of one to 10
01:14:47
Carlypeople are like oh everyone's a 10 I'm like is lizo a 10 I think we should get the bodybuilding girls to win win on this one what do you guys think I was thinking you were going to do that um we
01:14:57
Carlyhave a pretty similar take is it okay if I yeah go ahead all right go ahead um I mean obviously you're going to look how you look and it's different for
01:15:07
Carlyeverybody how they got there but we the body positivity movement is definitely iffy in our eyes we're obviously um
01:15:18
Arielnot not incredibly supportive of it I think we both think that health is really important and if you are actively trying to make a change if you're say at
01:15:30
Arielan unhealthy weight that's amazing you know kudos to you but I think that the way you take care of yourself in terms of that and other
01:15:41
Arielstuff reflects the way you feel about yourself so if I see you and you look unhealthy and you are not doing anything about it simply because
01:15:51
Carlyyou're lazy and you want to bring up body positivity as an excuse I'm not going to have respect for you I think that I agree yeah I think that the body
01:16:01
Carlypositivity movement like she said is an excuse to not work hard M which obviously I want to acknowledge that we came from a easier starting place than someone who's like morbidly obese so I
01:16:14
Isabellahave empathy for a different situation but in any case I think that the body positivity movement has been like hijacked by a bunch of like inclusive social justice Warriors and I think that
01:16:25
Isabellalike you can't tell me someone who's morbidly obese is happy with themselves no and I've seen it all over social media like oh I'm so happy I'm doing this they're going to be dead by the time they're like 35 if they keep like eating themselves away um and I think
01:16:38
Isabellathat it also sends a really bad message to like younger people who are scrolling on social media and being like this is okay I can do this and it's really not at all and it's it's really disgusting to be honest it's definitely a coping
01:16:49
Brian Atlasmechanism for sure the lightest terms yeah yeah and I mean the body POS positivity move movement originally started with things that were out of your control like if
01:17:00
Brian Atlasyou had like if you were an ampute or you had like a scar or you know some genetic thing and I I already got it I
01:17:08
Brian Atlasalready got it um so uh but it's transformed into let's just it's totally healthy at any
01:17:18
Emilysize you're healthy at 400 lb that's uh well distorted what the of healthy even is and then created this entire movement of young girls that are like well I can
01:17:29
Emilyeat whatever I want and do whatever I want with zero consequences and then you have people that are overweight you know dealing with heart problems I mean heart problems are very rapidly growing in the
01:17:41
CarlyUnited States and I mean we have an entire generation of kids that are becoming obese with zero consequences to be fair there are also skinny people who and we haven't been into nutrition for
01:17:52
Carlythat long so obviously at one point this was me but there's skinny people who are eating whatever they want and even though they might look healthy you're not so not only is it physical
01:18:03
Carly (nursing)appearance but even if you look good you should be focusing on your nutrition true that I totally agree yeah no I used to weit and you don't believe in cuz you guys don't know me but like 3 years ago
01:18:14
Carly (nursing)I weighed under 100 lb it was really hard for me to put on weight and then all of a sudden I just gained a bunch of weight probably because I'm I was like stripping so I was very active and then
01:18:24
Carly (nursing)once that stopped um so I definitely see like the difference of being like a very skinny person to now where I'm like pushing
01:18:31
Carly (nursing)overweight um and it's weird for me because it's our society like likes the over like overweight stuff like I get
01:18:43
Carly (nursing)way more attention for men now that I'm a little bit bigger than I did when I was skinny but I I like how I was when I was skinny before and I felt a lot better and my just my body felt better
01:18:55
Carlyso I mean once this you know disability thing is over then I'm definitely going to try to lose weight do you think that um I don't know how to put it men liking bigger girls is a niche fetish or do you
01:19:08
Carly (nursing)think it's widespread um in my experience it seems kind of widespread I mean I remember when I was super skinny I mean I was insecure about being skinny and I like
01:19:19
Carly (nursing)wanted to gain weight so when I started to gain weight I was like happy about it and then now I mean it's so weird I talk about this all the time with like my friends and family I'm like I feel like
01:19:32
Carly (nursing)I'm going to be very Frank right now I feel like the least attractive I ever have in my life but I feel I get like the most attention I ever have in my life I ever had my life and it's
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Unknown (23)days home for 14 any takers no solid man solid man I mean isn't a little over average or that that
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Brian Atlaswas a first off thank first off well thank you for your uh patronage uh that is not how you say that in French Como
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Brian Atlasokay anyways um so just to recap here he is 65 210 lb he makes 80k a year he says
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Morganhe works on the water he's 28 days home for 14 is he like myep does that yeah they're usually like away for like a month and then back for a month that
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Brian Atlaskind of thing yeah okay uh any girls who who are single at the table any takers at the what's the French name for it wait what what's the French name for the
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Brian Atlasbordell I'm not sure at the at the bordell she'll take you at the bordell all right there you go that's what South louisianian 65
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Morgan210 any T Isabella what's up no no no no I'm good he's in Louisiana no thank you sounds too humid I was born there 65 you
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Brian Atlaslike tall guys or um yeah kind okay all right we we'll ask everyone's type later um thank you you don't have a type yeah I don't have a
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Isabellatype have a type no no no I really don't I'm all over the place I'm definitely just attracted to like people's like it sounds so it sounds so ridiculous but really like
01:21:34
Unknown (23)their personality that's cap it's not I feel like it's a little bit cap because the initial like reaction when you're meeting someone you always look for like attractiv and then you find personality
01:21:46
Isabellayes but no like cuz there have been guys that I thought were so ugly and then after just like spending time with them I was like attracted to them actually that's like an actual every boyfriend wants like she used to think I was ugly
01:21:58
Lauren Rosesbut after getting to know me I'm still ugly but she likes my tell them that you're an alternative guy it's like but yeah I I guess but I mean don't you need the physical attraction I mean he
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Isabelladoesn't thing like after spending time with somebody you like get attracted to them it's like an actual phenomenon he doesn't look a thing like Jesus but he talks like a gentleman and that's that
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Brian Atlaswait what about like Charlie Kirk would you go for Charlie Kirk Charli's married baby okay I'm Sorry Charlie I didn't mean to throw you under the bus um we love Erica We Love by I do date
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Carly (nursing)short guys everyone's saying date a short guy I do date short guys what's the shortest guy you've dated 5'2 I told you well okay um I was 53 at the time
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Carly (nursing)but I'm 55 now how does that happen I was in eighth grade oh okay okay but everyone made fun of him for him being shorter than me and I loved him for like
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Unknown (23)three years if he's watching this hi did the height like go up over those three years oh to this day wow I don't think you can consider an eighth grade
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Carly (nursing)relationship like that doesn't count I don't know he was 5'2 well how tall were you wait I was 5 so then he was like 13 14 14 yeah that like so like oh so he
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Carly (nursing)probably Gro okay no cuz we actually talked since from like 14 to like 16 and yeah yeah throughout your relationship did he
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Brian Atlasstay 52 and you grew yes bro it's an it's a grade relationship like who cares all right was 57 like I'm like I'm okay with short guys yo testing tolerance thank
01:23:40
Brian Atlasyou man never ever ever spend money on women online including drop a like if you do we will find you okay right appreciate it there um guys get your
01:23:51
Brian Atlassuper chats in if you'd like we have I think we did we did that one we have puffy Vegas okay he's doing a rating um actually [ __ ] hold on no we'll do that one later I guess uh Mr cadosia ladies
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Brian Atlashave any of you had work done boob job lip filler if so what also Isabella are you cold or are they pierced okay um well to answer your question I've never
01:24:13
Brian Atlashad any work done I think do you want to answer his other question too uh I'm cold is it chil and hair no it's War you should get your thyroid
01:24:26
Brian Atlaschecks maybe okay um so we'll go around the table uh has anybody had any work done so lip filler lipo BBL I have a little bit of lip filler that's it mhm okay my
01:24:39
Lauren Rosesboobs are done okay I used to have a lot of work done and you know what recently I'm I'm just kind of giving it up for now I I it
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Lauren Rosesbecomes a addiction kind of at least for me it did and I just remember people were starting to call me out on it like just people at the dance club and people are like oh did you get your cheeks filled like a guy would say that to me I
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Lauren Roseswas was dancing with them I'm like you know what and I was broke like I would spend all my money on this this outer body and and I didn't have any money but I was like oh I look good but I didn't feel good so did you feel like it was
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Lauren Roseslike a little degrading in a way when a guy would ask you that I did I felt embarrassed because I felt embarrassed because I was like I really overdid this I was like I don't need to you know now I'm all all natural yeah wait so you
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Lauren Rosesused to have a lot what what did you have I had uh Temple fers done I had my lips done when I was in Playboy I just really went Hog Wild I just was like I
01:25:37
Lauren Roseswant to look the big the best and I I felt like this Spirit of like I got to do and look and Achieve not a BBL but um
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Lauren RosesI um no no no boobs but um I did the a lot of face work and I did get my teeth done I just was I'm happy about that um I'm happy about that but I did have a
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Lauren Roseston of face work done I would I definitely would say it was it was it was a lot and it was more than I had but I was like you know what I'm I'm going organic right now that's good yeah well
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Brian Atlasyou look beautiful thank you you too okay uh I have not had any work done nothing nothing zilch zilch zero zero nothing why why are you always
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Morganquestioning me do you have something to ask somebody you say nothing nothing okay all right I have never had anything done and I hope to
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Emilykeep it that way no work done but everyone always thinks I have lip fillers that's the number one like people tweet are like do you have lip fillers no fillers that natur see your side profile yeah those
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Isabellathose look normal they look normal I overline no fillers okay is no work done zip zip no work done okay why do I look like I've had done Bri no I'm not saying
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IsabellaI just got a question I do get the lip filler one a lot too um I feel like that's a common one or Botox or something like that okay no really no okay well no I can I can see that they're real but I was wondering if
01:27:11
Carlyanyone's ever asked you cuz they're really nice they're really nice thank you okay I'm just normal compliment I promise do you go both ways
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Brian Atlasor yeah but that's not what it was I thought I promise that's not what it was Isabella do you have you ever dated the woman no I would not okay okay I would not all right I'll take my compliment
01:27:33
Brian Atlasthough you have it we have Conan here question for Brian in the panel does this is a little to what's uh does jab status affect your interest in a
01:27:44
Brian Atlaspotential partner um honestly no let's let's not talk about the actual thing but you can say uh yes yes or no on that I guess
01:27:56
Emilywhat is that I I don't think jab the most recent jab the jab the job you need to like girl
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Brian AtlasOho oh okay okay okay oh does it there was recently a global something and people as a measure
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Isabellato be able to work I I feel like no I feel like simply because no because I mean I guess it depends I do feel like a lot of people were really put in bad positions honestly and I feel like I'm
01:28:29
Isabellanot going to hold that against a future partner who checks off all the boxes because he was put in a position where you know he potentially was going to lose his job or his ability to support I know my own College dropped me from all
01:28:41
Isabellaeight of my classes I had um religious exemptions medical exemptions and they were not letting me attend back and I basically had a year and a half hold off with my University and so like I know how I felt and that was just like simply
01:28:54
EmilyCollege I can't imagine somebody in a higher position I don't really know what that means I would refuse I will not date somebody or marry someone who's got it because of future fertility questions I
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Unknown (23)have okay um I don't think for me it matters too much true me too mean doesn't matter yeah I don't care I don't know what that means I'm still lost okay all right yeah we can just
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Brian Atlasokay all right we have puffy Vegas here can I come on your you show on you show uh you you'll have to uh work on the grammar a little bit before you come on
01:29:47
Brian Atlasbut um can I come on usual uh puffy we are very very selective with uh some of the guests we invite on but
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Brian Atlasuh you can you can send us an Instagram message and we can potentially consider it uh thank you man uh we're we're going to go right actually I'll wait for this
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Brian Atlasone hold on one sec we have uh let me see what I had here one sec guys um I had
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Unknown (23)wait type we can go around the table on this uh while we wait for her to come back what's your type Madison will go around this way um I'm not going to say
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Unknown (23)I don't have a type because I feel like I definitely do with the men that I been with throughout my life typically white men height preference
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Unknown (23)probably tall but obviously not really like I my last boyfriend was 5 six but yeah dark features I like dark I
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Isabellaguess in terms of like looks probably not but more so like values and like someone who's like super masculine okay so values I assume like has has to be Christian Christian
01:31:03
Emilyconservative values yeah okay practicing Christian conservative same answer to the last question uh physical looks I feel like
01:31:12
Emilyvary but 100% like they have to be a strong masculine man who wants to lead the household I want to be a wife and I
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Brian Atlasmean very traditional Traditional Values wait just a question for you two um you both are Christian correct yes um are you guys when it comes to you know
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Emilygetting married are you guys waiting until marriage yeah to have sex mhm yes I will say I've done it in the past but currently waiting for marriage and it's
01:31:44
Isabellabeen about two years same with you same okay so in the past I was previously engaged so yeah I feel like the effort
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Brian Atlasmoney on a bordell I'd rather spend that on race car parts and the gym thanks but no thanks okay there you have it uh this
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Brian Atlasis smoking pancakes I think he's the one who is 65 210 lbs makes uh 80k something a year and his home 28 is what kind of cars you like I like Mustangs oh okay
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Carlyhave books yeah yeah I read Harry Potter I read The Hunger Games I read Divergent um I have like book related tattoos I don't know why I can't think of anything
01:33:25
Brian Atlasyou have book related should we do a tattoo check on I have pants on it okay well like what's visible what's visible my arms are visible your arms are invisible my arms are
01:33:38
Carlyvisible should I don't know they're pretty like another double buy or I mean like they're pretty visible I I can do a little tattoo tour if you if you'd like I mean these are the only ones that are
01:33:48
Brian Atlasvisible but I have a ton on my back and my legs too okay yeah what precipitated getting the all the tattoos just you like the art or I've when I was like eight years old I would take the ink
01:34:00
Carlymagazines out of my mailbox at home and I would like hang like I thought the girls were so pretty like I just I love the look to be honest I've always known I was going to be fully covered at some point fully cover much to my parents
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Carlydismay but much to your parents dismay are you uh are there any areas of your body you won't tattoo like your neck or face I will not touch my face um I originally said I wouldn't touch my
01:34:22
Carlyfingers or hands but now that I'm um hopefully longterm in a job that doesn't require me to be super super professional I do have a little teeny
01:34:31
Carlytiny finger tattoo um I won't touch any you know private areas I trying to make it as I understand that in everybody's eyes it's going to be a
01:34:43
Carlylittle bit skanky but I'm trying to be as uh clean as possible I guess with yeah like um in the classiest way possible almost I even though my tattoo I promise most of them me something even though they aren't like artistic sure
01:34:56
Brian Atlaswell it's good I mean it's good that you know you don't want to anywhere private I I actually I encountered a woman once who had a YOLO tattoo above her
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Unknown (23)hooa and that made me take pause was it a girl you were getting down with is that what you saw it you we
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Isabelladidn't we like we didn't go all the way but I did see it shot and I was like hold up it's an interesting was YOLO
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Lauren Rosesyeah it was kind of a turn off not going to lie was okay what what does that mean um okay uh you got some tattoos you got I do sorry I have um a Hawaiian
01:35:39
Lauren Rosesflowers cuz I went to Hawaii and it was one of the best vacations of my life and it was beautiful so I got Hawaiian flowers I got lucky because I had the medical concern happen last year and I'm
01:35:51
Lauren Rosesjust I'm lucky for that getting out of it and then um oh okay I got this roses tattoo This Is My Family's last name but I wasn't planning on I didn't even have the money to do it it was just the
01:36:04
Lauren Rosestattoo artist like I went in for a sketch just to see what it would look like and he walks up to me and he said hey I'm going to be doing your tattoo and he was a big guy and he had tons of tattoos all over his face and I was like
01:36:16
Lauren Rosesoh I just wanted and he said I just got out of prison 3 days ago you're my first person I've ever tattooed and I'm like I was moving money in different accounts I'm like okay I can't piss this guy off
01:36:26
Ariellike I have to get it so I got it yeah okay let's do it really quick on the I don't know why I decid to do this okay go um I have like around almost 10
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Arielthey're pretty minimalistic like line line work but I mean is that there's the dice are you a risk taker well a lot of them are philosophy related so this is like a
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ArielPlaydoh refer reference what is it it's we must accept what has happened as we would the fall of dice mhm okay I like that I like what about is that Uranus it's Saturn oh Saturn okay I don't really like this one just because it
01:37:03
Arielblew up and it looks a little corny because it's literally just Saturn and it's something you would see like when you're 12 years old but it's also a philosophy reference it's Aristotle when
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Morganhe said the cosmos are more Divine than humans so okay very cool um my first tattoo was on my hip a hemsa and it means um compassion for all living
01:37:23
Morganthings in Hindu and then I have Return To Love here and then I have like a goddess embracing herself here and then this one meant selflove and yeah I mean I have like multiple I have like 15 or
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Emilysomething so no tattoos tatos tattoos it's not really biblical to get tattoo the only tattoo I would get would be in Jerusalem and it would be a cross at the oldest tattoo shop in the world called ruk oo it's the only place I get there
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Emilytoo what would you get I would get a cross I would get one of the original crosses probably on my WR area I was there last year when I got baptized in the Jordan River and I got like a necklace and I have my ring that I
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Emilyalways wear I don't take my ring off so this is like my commitment to God but the only tattoo I would ever get would be that that's cool that's cool Madison you got a couple right um yeah I have
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Unknown (23)two butterflies on my wrist cuz my family believes in like reincarnation so it's like in representation of my mom and my younger brother I have uh my mom's birth flower down my back her
01:38:21
Unknown (23)birth year angel wings and then I have my dad's birth year right here and then my mom's birthday on my rib okay got it we have a message here
01:38:31
Isabellafrom real cam higgy will you marry me Isabella hi Cam you can or can't can't well I said hi cam um oh high cam okay we'll talk about it later all right wait
01:38:43
Brian Atlasyou were married before no I was engaged oh okay yeah I was engaged all right marriage proposal wait here I will propose to you on behalf of cam Higg no
01:38:55
Brian Atlashe actually sent me this ring so no I'm not it's not me proposing but um hold on oh my gosh it's so pretty he sent me this he literally sent me this to do this in this exact moment
01:39:07
Isabellareally you here just at least try it on all right if it fits then it's meant to be if it doesn't then I got you Cam what's up do it's a little bit big it's a little big we'll readjust it we'll you
01:39:20
Brian Atlasget resize okay you got I mean you did put it on so technically you accepted it you're now engaged okay cool all right I got you cam um and then we have puffy
01:39:32
Brian AtlasVegas here what do I have to do to get on the show we tried calling you last time yeah dude we call I don't know if you checked your Instagram uh last show I called you like 10 times in a row on
01:39:42
Brian AtlasInstagram so um we have a question here from Stiffler ask everyone to WR their looks on a scale of 1 to 10 we will
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Carlystart with you and then we'll go around the table go ahead um I'd like to say uh seven iffy seven
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Lauren Rosesokay um I guess like a six or seven I say a 10 cuz my body's done a good job this year 10 it's done a good job this year and taking care of me well
01:40:15
Brian Atlaslike uh yeah it's not a rating on how well your your body has taken care of you it's more so like your physical physical attractiveness uh you know I I guess if I could work out maybe like at a and I could maybe just like work out a
01:40:28
Lauren Roseslittle more that would be nice I I want to get back in the gym and I want arms like that pretty I like that I like your guys's you personal train do you do any personal training no I don't well kind
01:40:39
Brian Atlasof do you person I just started training like my boss can we get the most muscular yeah can we get wait get the what that most muscular oh that's a it's
01:40:49
CarlyFR quad double huh like think about when they say like that you've watched like a bodybuilding show of so I'm not in the mic kind of when they turn to the front you show like everything from the front
01:41:02
Ariellike a front double bu it's like you're like this and yeah yeah do your trap pose BR your sleeves up your trap pose roll my well you can't see my it's more your shoulders and stuff wait where did
01:41:13
Arielthis even come from why am I constantly flexing can't my but you can't even see them can't really see okay well well just cuz she's looking to work out so oh oh I'm going
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Arielhit you up do it okay uh I didn't go oh I refuse to rate myself why because I feel like I don't
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Arielhave I don't really know how to perceive myself to be honest but I'll just say I like to carry confidence but I also
01:41:45
Arieluh criticize myself a lot not in like an unhealthy way but I think everyone understands what I mean mhm
01:41:53
Morganwhat about you um so I've watched a few of your like shows here at least 10 and I realized that whenever someone says 10 they get roasted but then I told Matt
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Morganthat I was not going to say 10 and he said what so I'm just saying 10 so yeah wow that was a lot of
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Emilybackstory um I was say solid seven solid seven I would say solid seven eight okay
01:42:24
Brian Atlasall right uh well he says ask everyone um I give myself six um why just a six no I say a six you know no all right
01:42:35
Brian Atlaswell thank you it means it means the world uh coming from you um but uh yeah so you know that's you know okay I think for like at least to
01:42:46
Morganseven or eight what me you don't got to gas me up it's okay all right someone was lowballing you the last episode oh the the yeah I like wow what I she was
01:42:58
Brian Atlaslike I'm a six but I think I'm a little cuter than you yeah uh yeah actually it's unfortunate I didn't I was going to properly rebuke
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Brian Atlasher but yeah I some TTS some super chats came in and I it slipped my mind but um no just yeah I know I was also like
01:43:19
Brian Atlaswhat did you go did you go yeah I said eight oh okay all right we have Tommy B hey thank you man appreciate the Super Chat appreciate your patronage Brian appreciate all the work you're doing here and bringing awareness to Modern
01:43:31
Isabelladating issues keep up the great work we need to it's been a little tame tonight we need to get into it guys we need to get into it okay I feel like the add-on 22 thing was kind of getting into it a
01:43:40
Brian Atlasbit was it spicy a little bit spicy between us a little bit spicy there we'll uh you know what I think I might have something here that might get us uh going a little bit but we had puffy
01:43:52
Brian AtlasVegas he wanted it he wanted to give his rating so he says the girls are 767 7.5 77 7.5 7.5 MH uh I'm not sure which direction
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Brian Atlasbut um probably the yeah I've dated five separate women who are married to famous men they were excuse me they were all
01:44:11
Brian Atlasdivorced at the time I met them okay thank you puffy Vegas appreciate it um and guys if you want get your uh chats
01:44:20
Brian Atlasin okay so cat you in your pre-show messages to us you had indicated sorry I'm getting this pulled up that you're not in favor of hookup culture is that
01:44:31
Brian Atlascorrect correct hookup culture sucks is what you said I did say that yeah okay um you also said though that you think
01:44:41
Brian Atlasbody count is irrelevant correct correct okay um and in addition to that you also said men are weird for wanting young virgins correct are men weird for for
01:44:53
Carly (nursing)wanting virgins no I think specifically like young virgins I think when it comes to body count it's like if you you know you have like certain values sorry just
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01:45:27
Brian AtlasSummer I'm really really what is Hard Summer is that like it's a music festival most mostly EDM in Downtown LA
01:45:37
Brian AtlasI don't re I don't do you like rock at all don't worry it's some drunk college kids um I do like rock I don't really I don't like
01:45:49
Brian Atlasto honestly I'm pretty introverted so I don't like okay makes sense makes sense large Gatherings of people I I don't really like uh like partying either I don't go to bars or clubs or any of that
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Brian Atlas[ __ ] so yeah same just just festivals usually I think a music festival is a little different but it's still kind of just within the realm of I don't know it's just not I get that yeah way too over stimulating for me I just yeah
01:46:12
Isabellathat's how most of my girlfriends feel so I can me and Matt just going wait I have a question so if you think it's I I do think body count is important I think it's I do think and statistically it's important because the more bodies that a
01:46:23
Isabellaperson has both male and female the higher the divorce rate is and the more unhappy that you're going to be but so you said it was weird for like men to want like young virgins I really don't think that there are like old virgins
01:46:36
Isabellaaround but also then is it weird that like a 50-year-old wanted something with you that was like intimate oh with me as a 26-year-old yeah um yeah that would be
01:46:46
Carly (nursing)weird but you said you did I did yeah and that was weird okay yeah that was weird weird weird for you or for him um weird on his part I mean you know well
01:46:57
Carly (nursing)where's the accountability I mean you're you were 26 right I was 21 at the time okay adult I was adult no I mean no I'm no I'm not saying that oh my God I was groomed or something but like I mean I
01:47:10
Carly (nursing)was just trying to have a good time I was like oh my god he has a lot of money but like I feel like the the weird part stands on him I mean I was I was just there do you think you were re sorry no no no you're fine go ahead do you think
01:47:22
Carlythink that that's reinforcing his behavior though in what sense uh I just feel like even if you think it's wrong and you still participate in it that's kind of
01:47:33
Carly (nursing)justifying it mhm well yeah but I mean I'm not saying that he okay it's kind of ening I'm not saying that he's wrong it's just weird there's a difference between like something being like
01:47:45
Carly (nursing)inherently wrong and it's something that is a little weird like he never and honestly we like dated but it wasn't like super serious like we're not going to get we're never gonna get married or
01:47:54
Carly (nursing)anything it was very much casual um but I think it's weird for and also I wasn't a 21-year-old who was like a virgin or
01:48:02
Carly (nursing)or anything I think it's weird for men who are you know older who want to marry and kind of in my opinion groom young
01:48:14
Carly (nursing)women especially if they're 18 19 who like haven't had sex yet or honestly even any woman who has who hasn't had sex yet if you're an experienc against man I think that's very that I agree
01:48:25
Isabellawith cuz I feel like it's but you said like it's weird for men to want like young virgins I feel like there's a big difference between like a 50-year-old man wanting like an 18-year-old virgin and like a you know a 30-year-old or 27-year-old wanting like a virgin I
01:48:37
Isabellaagree or a good girl I don't think there's anything wrong with that I I completely agree with you I also can I just say yeah yeah go ahead go ahead I also think that like from my conversations that I've had I always find that it is girls typically with
01:48:50
Carly (nursing)very high body counts that tend to believe that body counts do not matter and that's my opinion yeah no definitely I mean I also feel like women who with low body counts kind of want like a
01:49:02
Carly (nursing)little like reward for like not doing that which is great like I mean good for you um but yeah it's that's I could say the same thing well I feel like that
01:49:13
Isabellalike that like women with low body counts um feel like they're better than women than the I don't think it's a better thing I think it's just like a thing like I think it should be ackn knowledge that in like a world where it's like everyone's hooking up with
01:49:25
Isabellaeach other and that's the easiest thing to do and to not be promiscuous I do think that in it of itself is something that's like recognizable I think it's unfair to a lot of women I mean I'm
01:49:35
Carly (nursing)person I'm going to keep myself out of this because um I personally feel that it's unfair and I think somebody was on here I watched um an episode a couple
01:49:45
Carly (nursing)days ago it was somebody's husband Billy Billy Billy something's husband he mentioned how it's kind of un fair to blame women these days for having a higher body count because we were kind
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Carly (nursing)of told that oh it's great it's okay and then all of a sudden like I want to say like I never heard about body count at all you know after high school you know I'm 26 now and then now that I'm 26 uh
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Carly (nursing)like last year I started hearing about it again and like it's kind of weird cuz I feel like it didn't matter and also I also I find it to be kind of juvenile I mean if a guy asked me my body count I would be like how old are you like it should not matter it's not if he wanted
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Emilya serious relationship with you and wanted a marriage with you I mean it's statistically the marriage success rate goes down the toilet and women are 80% 80% of marriage sorry 50% of marriages in the United States ended divorce and
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Emily80% of those are initiated by women which is directly correlated to if you have slept with more people and you have more bodies on your record you're more likely to get a divorce so I don't think it's unfair for a man to ask hey how
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Isabellamany men have you been with in the past because that's going to impact him and his future too and I also think that there's a difference between like some random person asking your a body count and someone who genuinely wants to have a relationship with you and be intimate