Obese Girl Would NOT Date Obese Man?! PLUS SIZE BBW PANEL! | Dating Talk #103
Date: 2023-09-25
Duration: 5h 25m
Brian AtlasIdentified Speakers
SPEAKER_01Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_02TTS Reader(audience)
SPEAKER_03Music/SFX(audience)
SPEAKER_04Madison(guest)
SPEAKER_06Jasmine(guest)
SPEAKER_07Misty(guest)
SPEAKER_08Marshall(audience)
SPEAKER_09Gabby(guest)
Key Moments
00:29:09
QuoteGabby declares 'I am the table' — refuses to explain what she brings to a relationship beyond her presence.
“I am the table. I show up. I be me. That's what I offer. I'm there.”
01:24:24
QuoteGabby says the only guys who ask 'what do you bring to the table' are broke men who can't afford her.
“The only guys who have ever asked me what I bring to the table are guys who cannot afford me.”
02:05:00
QuoteBrian addresses accusation that he charges $9,500 for male panel spots; explains sponsorship tiers are for brands not individuals.
“We haven't had any guy on the panel paid to be on the panel so far. Every guy that's been on the panel it's either just somebody I know.”
04:12:06
OtherGabby texts all 5 men on her roster asking to be exclusive during the live show.
“I texted four, I'm on the fifth one... I said: do you want to be exclusive with me, boyfriend and girlfriend.”
04:39:00
OtherBrian runs 'delusion calculator' on all guests; all results show <1% of men meet their combined criteria.
“Each of you are under one percent in terms of the men that you're looking for.”
04:39:39
QuoteMisty rates herself 10/10, loudly and confidently.
“I'm a 10. Say louder for the people. I'm a 10.”
04:40:26
QuoteJasmine rates herself 3/10 by European beauty standards — unusually low self-rating.
“If you're judging by beauty standards I am definitely a three.”
05:24:51
OtherBrian asks for body counts at the very end; Gabby says 'zero' then walks it back saying she's not going to say it.
“Body count zero zero... I mean I just mean that I'm not gonna say it.”
Topics Discussed
00:02:48
Guest introductions — plus-size panel
Gabby, Misty, Jasmine, and Madison introduce themselves. Relationship statuses, dating histories discussed.
00:20:00
Dating rosters and modern dating behavior
Gabby's 5-man roster. Frequency of dates per week (~5-10). Jasmine's philosophy on exclusive dating. Gabby texts all 5 roster men asking to be exclusive during the live show.
00:37:00
Obese women dating preferences — would plus-size women date plus-size men?
Discussion of whisper.com article: plus-size women who won't date plus-size men. Jasmine says she wants a fit partner she can admire. Gabby says she's attracted to what she likes. Discussion of feederism phenomenon.
01:24:00
Income and financial requirements in a partner
Brian runs 'delusion calculator' for all guests. Gabby: $300K preferred, $100K minimum. Misty: $200K+ in LA. Jasmine: ~$80K. Discussion of stay-at-home motherhood and financial dependency.
01:32:40
Patriarchy and gender equality debate
Women discuss patriarchy, wage gap, male leadership, power dynamics. Disagreements on whether patriarchy constitutes oppression. Intersectionality: race + gender + size discussed by Gabby and Misty.
02:05:50
Sponsorship allegation and podcast operations
Brian reads DMs from person who accused him of charging $9,500 for male panel spots. Brian explains format (primarily female guests), rejection process, and sponsorship tiers. Stresses importance of not insulting the host when requesting to appear.
02:08:00
Body positivity and fat acceptance movement
Reaction to viewer chat criticizing obesity. Debate on fat phobia vs. genuine health concerns. Jasmine discusses both obesity and anorexia health risks. Adele weight loss discussed. Fat liberation vs. body positivity distinction.
02:50:00
Gabby TikTok video reactions
Multiple Gabby TikTok videos reacted to: 'broke boy anthem' (I am the table), 'train the man from the beginning' (don't split bills), dating men in LA, dating app behaviors. Brian and guests debate each video's premises.
04:39:00
Attractiveness ratings and aging
All guests rate their own attractiveness (1-10 scale). Brian rates himself 6. Gabby: 10. Misty: 10. Jasmine: 3. Brian argues men find women more attractive at 21 vs 31. Discussion of Kristin Kreuk as Brian's celebrity 9/10.
05:18:00
Dating app profiles reviewed
Brian and Misty's Bumble profiles shown and reacted to on-stream. Misty's profile notes she has video of her body for transparency. Brian's profile shows age as 28 (set to match Misty's claimed age).
Transcript
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00:58:37
Jasmineyou're yes okay I don't think I can grab one like that but you never know I mean yeah do you think about a lot of more plus-sized women get more attention than
00:58:46
Jasmineplus size men yes I feel like BBWs or big beautiful woman I feel like some people sexualize them and here's another thing I don't
00:58:57
Jasminethink BBWs represent all big girls yeah because if like you have to be big in the right places to be considered beautiful to those type of people like you need to have big boobs big hips big
00:59:08
Jasminethighs but somehow have a tiny waist and a fat tummy that's what most people like think of when they think about BBWs
00:59:17
MistyBBW usually is like science like yeah 20 up and you're it doesn't it's not curvy so the way I mean I'm talking from plus size model standards but it's usually is curve and then plus size and then you'd
00:59:29
Brian Atlasbe BBW after that sure which is size 20 and up have you ever slid into any DMs I am no never slid okay okay because maybe that could be a metric like whose DMS
00:59:40
Marshallhave you said oh I love myself too when I go to a show you dare I love him
00:59:50
JasmineBrian can ask a question yeah would you ever date a plus-sized girl or have you when we're talking plus size what are we talking is there anything here any size one of us like some of these or one of
01:00:03
Jasmineus you don't have to say who or like our size
01:00:14
Brian Atlaslisten I'm not like a Greek god I I've been uh see when I'm stressed a lot some people turn to alcohol some people turn to smoke and I I stress eat so I kind of got a little dad bod right now it's not yeah I'm not like
01:00:27
Brian AtlasI got a little dad bought so I'm not like over here like oh I need a uh I'm not like a Greek god over here chiseled out of marble but uh I need to lose about 10 or 20 people what you are doesn't matter what
01:00:40
Brian Atlasyou're attracted to so you don't like you know like we're just asking what you would go he's attracted to like more petite woman I have a I have a wide range of first well okay men have very wide ranges I have a wide range and yeah
01:00:53
Brian AtlasI think that's the case actually men men have a pretty wide range when it comes to body types it is irritating but you know what's crazy though I think like because I think what it takes for a guy to be deemed physically attractive and we
01:01:06
Brian Atlascould certainly have conversation of well do men care more about looks than women but but I think like the the yeah what women find physically attractive
01:01:16
Brian Atlaspurely physically attractive I do think it's a bit narrower excuse me narrower than what men will find attractive because like men will find like a pretty like super thin girl attractive all the
01:01:28
Brian Atlasway to like you got thick and you got guys who like BBWs whereas there's definitely women who like plus-sized men but I think like if we're talking about what people will find attractive I think
01:01:39
Brian Atlasfor some I think most women wouldn't find like an untrained skinny guy attractive you know one of my thinner friends really like Dad bods like you're not even like as Dad as they can get
01:01:52
Mistylike I could get more dad bought yeah I'm like a little bit down and a lot of my friends working on it guys I'm working I love they love that yeah that's why I say it just really whatever you're into and that's like you got to go out there like confidence with it because you can pull I think part of the
01:02:06
Mistyreason why you may not be polling is because of the doubts you have in yourself because that's what my issue was or she's just super picky yeah she can get she can get what she wants you you can get what you want and you're not in California too that's true but
01:02:18
Jasmineshe's been single for 11 years but that's what I'm telling you I think it's yeah I blame the guys the guys are not making the moves the guys I don't know probably I can do
01:02:30
Mistysomething I don't know I honestly don't know I have to get over that hump yeah we can only do what we did yeah yeah we have to you have to get to a point where you believe that you deserve that when you just said he's cute but I don't think I could pull him you need to get
01:02:42
Jasmineat a point where he's cute and I could pull him well I feel like if I if I have that mindset and to Lulu I feel like I would have to be the one pursuing them and I don't really what about like a
01:02:54
Jasminestarter a starter conversation like hey shirt you're wearing where'd you get it yeah like I used to do that but I just always get they always just seem as a friend because I don't think a lot of them see me physically attractive I
01:03:07
Madisonthink what she was saying though like you have to put yourself in the right places to be approached by the men that you want to be approached by as well you know and you have to have that thought that I'm am what they want because the
01:03:18
Mistyminute you say I'm not what they want your your energy is that and of course not if you're like I am what they want literally delulu I am what they want all the men want to talk to me all the men and just like that energy alone will make men attracted to you because
01:03:32
Mistythey're seeing the confidence in you because at the end of the day just like he says there is a wide range there I can literally go back home to Seattle and I'm I'm I might be like whatever level I'm here I'm a Seattle 10 easy because even if a girl is looking really
01:03:44
Mistybeautiful with standard societal Beauty I've got more confidence in the way I dress in the carry myself already I'm pulling see it what's a Seattle 10. that's a good question is that like a Jeff Bezos it's like okay so I mean in
01:03:57
MistyL.A everyone's beautiful everyone's going there to work and so if you're really pretty you're going to be an actor or model where in other places you can be really pretty and just work for like Google um okay all right Seattle we just
01:04:08
Brian Atlasattract a lot of Attractive people okay I wonder what like a uh and like a uh Chattanooga 10 is where is that
01:04:17
GabbyTennessee Tennessee for sure I'm a 10 yeah as long as you're not posting photos on your dating profile with like a big fish
01:04:29
Gabbyyou don't like the fish photos because like when you're in places like Tennessee and you're swiping through a dating app it's like every guy has a big fish like I caught this big fish I'm a
01:04:41
Brian Atlasman what are you compensating you look stupid because every single guy I'm just like no no a lot of girls are not fan of the fish but doesn't that show that he's he's like in the zombie apocalypse right
01:04:53
Brian AtlasGabby Gabby Gabby listen listen wouldn't you want like it's plausible that within the next five years ten years there's like a zombie apocalypse when didn't you want your man to be able
01:05:04
Gabbyto fish I will seek out the fish men the fish man if you're by the zombie apocalypse but right now you want like a more urban guy who doesn't know how to fish you know what you make a lot of
01:05:18
Madisonsense there maybe I should use the fish I'm changing your mind on social media too A lot of the guys that post those fish pictures are guys who don't post much on Instagram at all
01:05:28
Brian Atlasokay aren't really they don't really get how that works okay that's fair you're right reconsider the fish I'm gonna reconsider reconsider reconsider the the guys with the fish photos I will swipe
01:05:40
Brian Atlasright on the next fish give them a picture I have a photo like that I I don't okay do you fish I want to learn but I'm slacking in that area of expertise
01:05:50
Brian Atlasto go back to what you were saying also Tuscaloosa 10 what am I yeah would I be attend in Tuscaloosa Alabama okay just one I've never been I don't know
01:06:03
Brian Atlasuh so you were asking me Brian would you date a uh and then you ask here's what's weird
01:06:13
Brian Atlasthis is gonna sound weird as uh say it like I would cut okay
01:06:24
Brian Atlasfor some bro okay I feel like don't get me wrong so generally I would say my type is probably more like on the petite side honestly I'm trying to get with a dwarf do any of you know a dwarf like a little bit I don't think you're supposed
01:06:36
Brian Atlasto say that well it's dwarfer little person is yeah okay yeah both of like a Ninja
01:06:48
Brian Atlasalthough she does have a point because well okay I think dwarf is cute but I don't know I'm not alone my understanding well dwarf used to be like the m word
01:07:00
Brian Atlasyou know I got a lot of dwarf followers so so they're okay with that if they're okay I'm understanding is dwarf is okay but now it's it's called the uh
01:07:10
Brian Atlaseuphemism treadmill so they'll what happens is there's a new word that gets introduced that's more PC but then like through usage over time it starts to
01:07:21
Brian Atlasactually become offensive so it's kind of like where uh I think there were it was for example with right oh was a new term used that was
01:07:32
Brian Atlasdeemed to be politically correct and appropriate books over time yeah over time it became derogatory so now we've come up with other words and then probably eventually those other
01:07:43
Madisonreplacement words will be deemed yeah I agree so it's like it's like using the word fat and then going like BBW you know because that could be offensive but
01:07:54
Mistyis it no no I love the word fat really words have as much meaning as you give them so if you're gonna sit there and say that you can say that about anything okay word fat it's offensive then I'm offended by it you could do the same thing with black you can do the same
01:08:06
Mistything with a woman you can do it with any word you want to so if you take away the negative connotation of the word it no longer has that connotation so fat fat is but if someone insulted you like they they called you you're
01:08:19
Mistyfine that's all you could think of to say about me is what you verbally what you see physically that's then haha you win like going about my day because I get paid but
01:08:32
Brian Atlaslet's say they weren't using it in an insulting way they were just trying to think like if they referred to you like in they weren't trying to offend
01:08:41
Brian Atlasyou they were just saying oh she's a way but they're she's like oh she's a fat girl is that offensive
01:08:52
Jasminebut I'm not I feel like fat has a definition and I'm very logical if I fit that definition then I'm fat okay so you got thick skin you got thick skin yeah I feel like that the term fat in the last
01:09:04
Gabbylike three years I feel like have has gone a little bit more like acceptable because when I was younger you call me fat I'm ready to fight you know like like now I don't feel like it's an offensive term anymore to me anyways I
01:09:17
Brian Atlaslove these in the groups that I'm in it's not really offensive I agree with you yeah I'm in the same with you so to answer your question finally uh generally speaking I would say yes I do
01:09:26
Brian Atlasprefer kind of petite women like 411 but again my range look when it comes to height though okay let's talk height really quick I'll date a girl who's 410
01:09:37
Brian AtlasI'll date a woman who's six taller than me six foot five so you're very flexible I'm pretty height wise very flexible um I'll date thin I'll date thick I don't know if thick women are
01:09:49
Brian Atlasattracted to me though because I feel like most women want to like they don't want to feel smaller than the guy and I could be wrong but I feel like most women like there's some women who are
01:10:00
Brian Atlasthick or just maybe more muscular and they got like big legs some women got bigger legs than me and they're like I don't think they want to with me because I got I got these chicken legs right now we're
01:10:12
Gabbysupposed to have bigger I know we're supposed to have bigger legs than everybody I've dated no one's beat me in the leg Department well okay you never know but okay to finally answer your question for some reason okay God okay I'm not
01:10:26
Mistygonna get I don't know if I'm gonna get canceled okay kind of chubby Asian women you know what I mean we win again chubby just saying yeah a lot of them are short so not a pendant
01:10:41
Brian Atlasno not even the preference it's not like I'm zeroing in on chubby Asian women but okay okay why not do you like a little you're open to it I don't mind a little Chub I don't mind the little Chub I would say little but honestly most my
01:10:54
Brian Atlasthe girls I've dated that have not been but like you know and I'm a little more flexible if she's got a large labia let me just say that okay all right moving on here yeah do you find there's consistency with
01:11:05
Brian Atlaswomen's body types and their labias I don't think it's tied to uh body time I don't think so either I'm just wondering if you found it if you felt that way just like for for yeah it's not but uh
01:11:24
Brian AtlasI took anatomy class I know what it looks like okay so uh we need to react to some videos here I'm
01:11:35
Brian Atlastrying to recall where we where we oh one last person Nick if you're able to Google um Chris Farley he was a hilarious comedian in the 90s I think he was on
01:11:46
GabbySNL he passed away in the is it the 90s early 2000s I loved him I would totally I had a crush on him when I was little I love that man I actually have a couple of soundboards he was
01:11:58
Brian Atlashilarious and Tommy Boy I was obsessed with Tommy Boy yeah love it would you go for Chris hardly
01:12:09
Jasminesee and obviously we're just it's just by appearance right because I don't even know him or he will die
01:12:19
Mistyno my answer is no you wouldn't no date Chris Farley no what are you uh without knowing anything about him if he just came up to me and
01:12:32
Gabbywas like yeah let's go on a date um probably not that's how I'm seeing it oh like if I don't know I really like his Vibe like his energy like look at like the brightness behind his eyes his big
01:12:43
Gabbybeautiful smile his chubby Rosy Cheeks like I love that so that's definitely a yes I love Santa fetish
01:12:52
Brian Atlasnot me hitting up the malls for Santa Claus this Christmas not the people online asking if they broke Santa okay all right there you have it let's
01:13:03
Brian Atlasuh let's do one of the videos we're gonna skip over one we're gonna watch uh the video from Gabby here and this is I think the one that went the most viral
01:13:14
GabbyI mean I had a few and there's a few there's definitely a few oh there's me why do they start you off like that I expect a man to pay for the date yes
01:13:26
Gabbythe whole entire date that includes my Uber to the date and my Uber back to my house if you are a man that I'm interested in I want to see that you can provide for me I want to see that you
01:13:38
Gabbycan afford an Uber ride I want to see that you can afford a nice dinner date like can you afford basic things because if you can't afford dinner and an Uber my Transportation you certainly can't
01:13:49
Gabbyafford kids you certainly can't afford a house you certainly can't afford my bills and I got bills to pay okay period period
01:14:00
GabbyI totally agree period I drive when you say that you have bills to pay what do you mean I pay my own rent I have a part I have two apartments on my own two apartments in
01:14:12
Gabbyone city or different no one in New York one in L.A okay um yeah like light bills and they're not even that like I need to get my nails done and get my hair done I need to get my feet done just maintenance bills any
01:14:24
Gabbyyeah like Brazilian waxes like I have things to pay for and like if I'm gonna be dating you like Fork it over like and and is that
01:14:34
Brian Atlassomething that you are more I mean it sounds like from the get-go first date right in he should be paying yes get you an Uber for the date um pay for the first date
01:14:46
Brian AtlasEtc um does he have to get an Uber can he pick you up he can pick me up but there a lot of them have said I'll just send you an Uber because they don't want to drive I don't know why and you're but so you're fine with either he sends you an Uber pays for it or picks you up yeah
01:14:58
Brian Atlasokay and then has to pay for the first date and then I assume like second date third date yeah continue paying um and so currently you said you got about five guys on your roster are they all when you're going on a date with them or when you did go on the first
01:15:10
Gabbydate they're paying getting you the Ubers at yeah well I mean last night I went on a third date with this guy and he always picks me up so um he picked me up last
01:15:22
Brian Atlasnight went to a movie you know got some popcorn slushies and then he dropped me back and that was your date okay paid for it everything the video that we just reacted to went super viral I know you
01:15:34
Brian Atlassaid there's a bunch of other ones that uh you've had a bunch that went viral and we we actually we got a few so we're gonna we're gonna we're gonna try to get through all of them oh not yet not yet not yet not yet not yet
01:15:46
Jasmineum so um can I comment on that video so your question I'll be right back okay your comment was basically saying that men should pay for the date yeah right
01:15:59
JasmineI think I've heard Brian said before that he disagrees with that I'm not sure probably could clear the air but I totally agree um because I mean I always see dating as
01:16:10
Jasminethe men needs to be doing an investment in his in his love life right if you're not willing to pay for the date and invest in your love life even if it falls through then you're not willing to invest in things that really matter in
01:16:22
Jasminethe long run so that's why I really believe that when I go on a date they need to be the ones paying because you're dating you know if I want if I want to pay then I'll just go with a friend like what's what's the difference right and I feel like a lot of women
01:16:35
Gabbythese days they're like oh let me be nice and let me try to pay for half and he'll respect me more sis he don't respect you more like you're just wasting your money and your time at this point it doesn't make you less and like
01:16:46
Gabbyour men are men ever shy in trying to push your boundaries and trying to get you to go further than you want to go when you're dating them no they're not shy about that because they know what they want they know what they're
01:16:56
Madisoninvesting in this four exactly like okay so if they're not shy about it I'm not going to be shy about it I feel like I feel like a little bit different of a perspective because I'm younger I don't expect a guy to have the
01:17:08
Madisonmoney to pay like being the age that I am like I don't expect them to have the money to pay for everything that I need like I absolutely think a man should pay on a date maybe I don't know I just think first date
01:17:21
Madisonit doesn't matter that much to me because I if I were the guy in that situation I wouldn't want to just blow money for it to fall through
01:17:29
MistyI think time is worth investing in but not money those same men though when you're on that date have no problem asking you to come over and asking you
01:17:39
Mistyto give up your business so I mean you go on this walk Park date and then they ask you to come over and now what they've gotten exactly what they've wanted of you and you've received what
01:17:49
Gabbynot anything except for a requests well I got I mean but isn't I mean my view of sex it's an equal value exchange it's not it's for men we receive such as for men especially when they when you just
01:18:02
Marshallsaid they don't want to go down you don't want to go down in a woman then what is she really getting like she's gonna come yeah are you sure
01:18:13
GabbyI was so upset he didn't even finish like I don't know I just feel like men benefit more from sex than women do yes women can enjoy sex for sure erroneous
01:18:26
Brian Atlaswomen can enjoy sex but the men are benefiting from sex for sure disagree disagree first okay we can talk about the orgasm Gap so it certainly is the case that okay well we can get into
01:18:38
Brian Atlasdetails but there is the argument that men are more likely to org out especially if it's like a casual encounter that men are more likely to climax under those
01:18:49
Brian Atlascircumstances than the woman is uh however I would say my counter to that would be women are multi-orgasmic so if
01:18:59
Brian Atlasa guy comes once some some women they be coming like three four five times so now they're that it's really interesting though I feel like men's
01:19:08
Brian Atlasclimax or orgasm responses very almost typical I mean there's some variance but it's pretty I mean whereas for women it's getting a girl to Climax from one woman
01:19:20
Brian Atlasto the next could be very different like some women can come like real like insane and they're multi-orgasmic they come in 10 seconds they can keep coming and then other women it can take a long
01:19:32
Brian Atlaswhile and then there's some women who despite best efforts even themselves there's some women that if they're masturbating or whatever they just have a really difficult time or they can't
01:19:42
Brian Atlaseven make themselves climax which is I think for men is pretty unheard of so but what's the majority what do you mean of women a woman what's what's more seen
01:19:53
Brian Atlasthe no I think I mean at least I'm from my experience it's certainly I would say I would say when I'm talking about like women who are super multi-orgasmic can come really
01:20:04
Brian Atlasquick that's pretty low percentage okay probably less than 10 but I mean like women that can come I'd say that's I mean 80 I want to say at least in my
01:20:17
Brian Atlasexperience like I'm I've got a pretty good track record of you have a lot of experience I'm not saying that but I'm
01:20:25
Brian Atlasa man of God but like this like my whole thing with sex even if it's I'm not really interested in casual sex like I don't like uh
01:20:36
Brian Atlasone-night stands like if I sleep with a girl I want there to be a continuity I want to continue seeing her because otherwise for me it's a wasted time what's the point
01:20:45
Brian Atlasum okay so my experience though is sorry I lost my train thought we were talking about so if you were very experienced we're talking about sex yeah
01:20:55
Brian AtlasI mean experienced oh no so what I was gonna say is like my whole thing is I want to make the girl come before me that's important for sure I like to make her come before me so whether that's my
01:21:06
Mistyhands toys whatever I feel like no one's really taking into account the reason why we have sex like this is why it's like such a point thing it's not just the pleasure right like yeah procreation that's the reason why sex happens right and so let's say we take the risk and we
01:21:19
Mistydo have sex the only person who has to deal with it once the comments like you can choose to be there and not be there you can choose to be part of you taking the day after or not if I decide to have the kid you can choose to be part of it and I no matter what once I let you
01:21:31
Mistyenter me I'm now obligated and I'm thinking about that from the very moment that I even agreed to be around you because it you know it can it can happen now that I'm around you and so I feel like that's what I feel like a lot of people are not taking into account you said they talk about sex who's it good
01:21:44
Brian Atlasfor who's it not for the end of the day the only person who has to worry about in the day is me the person with the uterus I I agree with you on the point of pregnancy obviously that's something exclusively exclusively that women would
01:21:56
Brian Atlascould potentially encounter from a sexual encounter but what if we're talking like let's assume the content text here is you know there's not a there's not obviously well every time there's a risk
01:22:07
Brian Atlasyes but let's say like the intention is not to get pregnant maybe the woman's on birth control that's the point if we're talking about we don't we don't not think about that but if we're talking about
01:22:20
Brian Atlasyou know because there's often this Trope of well only the only men are getting value from Sex in the form of pleasure but like what I was trying to what I was trying
01:22:31
Mistyto argue there is that well actually women also get the same I do I agree with that pleasure for sure but she was talking about the benefit yeah you know what I mean you guys can get that and be satisfied we don't get that and just be
01:22:44
Mistysatisfied we get that and want more I'm not satisfied with just that whether or not no yeah
01:22:55
Brian Atlascan you just repeat that
01:23:00
Jasmineyou want sex I want money I think there's a term for that hold on WOW wow is that Constitution no oh I'm not
01:23:12
Jasminehaving sex for money you know what I feel like one of the reasons why women some women want like you know money is because of that
01:23:22
Jasmineconsequence that women can yes endure yes there's a risk like she said yes you know we can have sex but I would be the one getting pregnant there's more consequence for a woman that is why for a woman we all get satisfied if you
01:23:35
Jasminebring money and for sure to support that yeah you know so it's not only in the bedroom it's what's done outside of the bedroom as well it's more actually I mean for a woman it is yeah like I can literally get horny if you have bought
01:23:46
Mistyme dinner for sure you want to make me come pay my rent pay my bills that nothing makes me more information then you're taking care of me treat me like a big ass baby and I will be so ready to like hug and kiss and be around
01:23:58
Mistyyou like I gave a guy you make the conversation for an hour the other day because they bought me like dinner and I was like I I think I might like him now think of how many women are struggling he's treating me right I think I might
01:24:09
Gabbylike him now if he's watching you know thank you think of how many met uh women are struggling in their relationship right now and they're so exhausted so tired so
01:24:21
Gabbyoverworked yeah and then like all you can hear the guy say is look she doesn't want to have sex anymore or she doesn't want to do this she doesn't want to do that like duh cause you're broke ass like why would she be talking why would she oh sorry that why would she be
01:24:34
Brian Atlasturned on at that point yeah like bring some flowers home it's real quick fix wait Nick let me control the uh Center Zoom okay you can you can go here but let me do the center Zoom um so okay hold on there's a lot there's a lot
01:24:46
Brian Atlasthere um so okay you're saying that women today they're they're overworked they're tired they're taking care of the house freaking exhausted they take care of everything they don't have time we used to live at home and then their parents
01:24:58
Brian Atlaswould find as someone there'd be a dowry okay and then we'd be sent off to live with him now should we go back to the to patriarchy I'm not saying we should go back to anything
01:25:12
Mistylet's not take it away from right now we're definitely still living in a patriarchy do we yeah we do I have that same conversation with someone it's ridiculous I don't think Dude any any public school in the country
01:25:24
Brian Atlaswe're definitely been a patriarch assistant go to social like a social that's where they taught us that we lived in a patriotic Society where's the where's the proof um the fact that men make more money than women in any job they think is the
01:25:36
Mistysame that's not false work in acting where the men make more money doing the same job that I do when they make it to a certain level absolutely well okay now we're getting into this different factors that's just a factor you can walk around around with
01:25:49
Brian Atlasyour shirt off I've got to wear a bra I know that is actually actually on on that thing I think well okay we're hitting on a lot of points here yeah the wage Gap the wage gap's been debunked when it comes to the shirt thing that is
01:26:00
Brian Atlasactually the only right that I can think of that we don't have over women we don't sexualize men the same way that men sexualize women you can organize we demonize male sexuality I mean you can say you
01:26:13
Mistyby a group of women and they're not going to be like hey baby oh look at you take your shirt off the chances of us I mean I'm sorry I'm sorry for Albuquerque 10 or where are you from
01:26:24
MistyAlabama 10. that's probably hard for you but generally men can walk by a group of women without those women cat calling them when that's not something that we necessarily have or feeling safe walking to our car I'm pretty sure you do where
01:26:35
MistyI have to wear I have to bring some sort of like spray something we have to protect ourselves we have to think about going to your house are we going to be okay like those are things that you don't have to think about which shows us
01:26:44
Brian Atlasbut the way the way you you feel just because you feel unsafe as a as a woman doesn't mean that you actually are unsafe the reality is if you look at crime statistics men are more likely to
01:26:55
Brian Atlasbe victims of violent crime but other men that oh that's my point that's victim blooming but that's not victim blaming it is because what is the gender of the perpetrator have to do with what you're still victimized regardless of
01:27:08
Mistythe the gender of the perpetrator I'll be right back okay she's gonna be right back um just go that way if you can so men are creating so at the end of the day the fact that we we can't like
01:27:19
Mistywe have less upper body strength and we've got there's we're made differently us being able to protect ourselves against those Predators is different than you being able to protect yourself again against your Predator so the fact of you being scared to walk to your car
01:27:32
Mistyin the middle of night is just going to be different because you know if someone comes up to you even if you might still be victimized by a man the fact of you getting hurt or being able to scare them off is a higher chance percentage than it is for me I'm not sure about that I
01:27:43
Mistymean like that's not about shorts not sure I'm not sure a man's gonna look at you and me I promise you he's going to choose me to try to overcome the new then well you I mean I'm
01:27:54
Mistynot trying to make a comparison here but like you might be more physically imposing than I am I promise you I can probably run faster than you but the end of the day he's going to I don't know about the Running part but I might
01:28:06
Mistyum but what I'm saying should we do a race after the show I mean I can do a nice job yeah um but what my point is is that there I mean you can you can argue the the opposite side what is it called Devil's Advocate but at the end of the day a
01:28:19
Mistyman's gonna come after her before he's gonna come after her and that's just that's just the rule they're going to come after you they're going to come after me before they come after you because you perform you provide a little bit of threat me I don't provide a lot of threat
01:28:32
Brian AtlasI actually disagree because there's there's actually a a thing where even among like okay take criminals for example the people that would victimize you don't get me wrong like when it comes to mugging like
01:28:44
Brian Atlasfor some people who would be inclined to mug somebody the gender of the person might not be a factor but there is certainly a thing when it comes to criminals for example like you look at
01:28:54
Brian Atlasprisons right look at jails who are the most reviled people in prisons and jails people who tend to Target uh people that
01:29:02
Brian Atlasare deemed as weaker let's say so men who abuse women and men who abuse child are going to be victims in a prison setting but a guy who beats on another man is not going to be uh there's not
01:29:15
Brian Atlasthere's not a stigma attached to a man who beats on another man but as a man if you beat on a woman then you're gonna get you're gonna get uh well also in a public setting let's say you and me are in like a bar type environment like a nightlife type
01:29:29
Brian Atlasenvironment where there's a lot of people around if a guy starts whooping on me nobody's going to intervene on my my behalf but most women if a guy starts whipping on a woman other totally random stranger men
01:29:40
Brian Atlaswill intervene on that woman's behalf and white knight basically and protect her free bodyguards so women have free bodyguards I mean you can say that but that's that's like a hearsay right because I've literally physically seen a
01:29:53
Mistyman beating on a woman and people started I was the only person to stand up and do something so I feel like the what ifs about a bar and this that sort of thing is a little bit difficult but the fact that you're saying that a man in jail will then be victimized in jail because he decided to pick on the weaker
01:30:05
Mistyrace you're already proving my point that was the weaker thing to go after which is why he's he's now victimized in jail because he decided to go after something that he knew could not stand up against him not you but me and that's the reason why he then in jail has
01:30:19
Mistylooked down on because it's like you should have gone against a man because that would have been fair and the fact that you win against something that's weaker means that you're a piece of right but there's this concept like that okay men are taught
01:30:30
Brian Atlasshould never hit a woman blah blah et cetera et cetera and that's going to provide you certain privileges like for example if I walk up to a guy and I just you know let's say it's a bar nightclub
01:30:42
Brian Atlastype environment and I call him a I might get slapped but like women you have a lot more leeway like you're going to have to antagonize a guy significantly for him to get violent with you I don't feel like that I mean I
01:30:55
Brian Atlasjust said I think it depends on who you're around and where well obviously depends on the God but yeah but I would say also look you mentioned this scenario where there was a woman who's getting beat on by a guy and there's a
01:31:07
Brian Atlasconcept of a bystander yeah certainly for both men and women when when you're witness to something there's a bystander effect bystander effect but I would say I've seen like a lot of situations where
01:31:17
Brian Atlasif a guy like were to put his hands on a girl and there's a crowd like there's people around there's a lot of guys that are going to intervene and they're gonna that guy up they're gonna
01:31:28
Mistycurb right but so that's why it's a patriotic Society they see already that they have the hierarchy and they trying to save something that's weaker I feel that's a benefit though you have free bodyguards you can say it's a benefit but it's due to the patriarchy well
01:31:42
Jasminethere is no patriarchy I reject this idea that there's a patriarchy I think I think there's two factors is the culture right like men are supposed to protect women and what men can fight within each
01:31:53
Jasmineother another thing too is also like biology like the physique of someone like we always have videos on because here's the thing when and I you know if a girl is scrapping with another girl whatever if a guy's fighting with
01:32:05
Jasmineanother guy whatever but if it's a man laying hands on a woman they're they're attacking the man right or if it's a woman slapping the man they're like okay good girl like he deserved it so I don't
01:32:16
Jasminethink anybody I feel like exactly so I feel like it's those two factors is usually women are more vulnerable and here's what I have to say like that's why us as women we need to have wisdom and be like what can I do and you kind
01:32:29
Jasmineof talked about it you have stuff right you have your tools you know some woman carry yeah which I think is great and some women get like self-defense classes martial arts like you need to equip yourself and stop like putting yourself
01:32:40
Brian Atlasand make yourself very vulnerable and and that's empowering so yeah well just this is we're kind of getting a little bit away from dating but just on the whole like violence thing Nick if you can pull up in the Dropbox podcast
01:32:52
Brian Atlasvideos folder there's two videos I want to react to very very quick if you can get those going for us um let me know when you're in the folder and I'll tell you which one it is there's two of them
01:33:03
Brian Atlasuh and this is really just to kind of articulate the point that again it's not always it's not a guarantee that if a man is beating on the women other men will intervene but it's like a very common phenomenon um you got do you have a nick
01:33:18
Brian Atlaswait what do you are you in the I just feel like that proves my point look it's Dropbox podcast videos the fact that
01:33:30
Brian Atlasthat's like so that proves my point Nick come on man can you do it okay minimize minimize obs
01:33:42
Brian Atlasclick the click the folder click sorry guys hold on okay go to okay so Dropbox podcast videos
01:34:00
Mistylet me know when you're there uh so we have white Knights one and white Knights too that's the that's the title what love that and I love seeing that when people actually do stand as a type of person I
01:34:12
Brian Atlasam try to stop violence well here's the thing in these scenarios actually the women are the instigators and even in those contents it can be I think even in those contexts if a man tries to defend himself that's why my recommendation for
01:34:23
Brian Atlasmen even if you're like you would have a claim of self-defense if a woman's beating on you you need to like you know you need to get out of that situation because if there's other people around
01:34:33
Brian Atlaseven if you're in a genuine legitimate valid self-defense situation if there's other men around and you they only see the component of you trying to defend yourself be careful you're gonna get
01:34:44
Brian Atlascurb stoned so yeah um okay and I want to see a fight so go ahead play it can you go up make it a little bigger no that's wait wait oh it
01:34:56
Brian Atlasis a girl okay play it just move the cursor please is there audio on this okay so the you got two girls kind of bullying is there audio on this yeah okay I could hear it
01:35:08
Brian AtlasI can hear it it's a little hard to hear I wonder what he said in class can you go all the way so she look he's backing up one more he he doesn't want any she's shoving him
01:35:21
Mistyhe's backing up you probably said some in class I mean hold on let's just watch let's just switch he's backing up not a threat he's backing up she's pursuing
01:35:35
Brian Atlasshe slaps him he's hits her self-defense there's two girls at 2V1 he's defending himself oh this is gross now watch
01:35:48
Marshalloh there's the football guys
01:35:53
Brian Atlasnow there's a teacher there but if that had continued he probably like those dudes came in the interview he said probably let's not go off of what we don't know I mean I
01:36:06
Gabbylooking at the situation I was in high school too that kid looked like he's used to being bullied and he just got frustrated and punched her because if the football guys were just right there just to come in in action about to beat him up they probably already didn't like
01:36:19
Gabbythat kid anyways because he looks kind of nerdy and they probably like wanted a reason to beat him up anyways and they're probably this is a valid reason to beat him up let's get him here's another one Nick can you play White Knights too I don't think it's okay for violence by the way well yeah I agree
01:36:30
Mistyyou shouldn't hit anybody so this girl grabs his backpack but what did she what did he say to her like girls don't just do for nothing
01:36:41
Brian Atlashe defended himself and now
01:36:47
Marshalland now I hate fights
01:36:52
Marshallthat's ghetto oh that's ghetto
01:37:01
Marshalldid he live this is a lot [Music] what do you mean you can't see what they're doing to him
01:37:10
Mistydude he's on the ground I don't see blood oh he's like all Delirious oh God
01:37:19
Music/SFX[Music]
01:37:24
Brian Atlashe looks looks a little wobbly on his legs um in any case look I I know that's a little different than normal conversation but like this idea that you know I mean I was trying to
01:37:35
Brian Atlasbasically articulate my point that just because you feel a certain way when it comes to safety I think men are old and it's backed up by the crime statistics like men are more likely to be victims but the fact the violent crime men save
01:37:47
Mistymen from them and Men save women from them it's not women who save them it still shows the power that you have wait what do you mean well you're saying that the men are the ones men are the ones that are doing the the
01:37:59
Mistyum like intervene oh and men are the one doing the crimes and you're saying men are the ones that intervene right and they're doing it to men and women you still got out of three of those it's still men men
01:38:10
Mistyokay so what I'm saying basically is if it the way the reason why I'm saying it's a patriarchal society is because if it was women who could intervened and saved the woman from being beat up by men or women that could intervene and
01:38:22
Mistysave the men for being bitted by their men then maybe we could say there's some sort of equality there but it's men who've got to step in both times to save that person so even though they're the ones causing the the the the Tiff they're also the ones that have to save
01:38:34
Mistyso that's still the way you've got the power that's the power is being able to determine who doesn't do who does not get beat up well I mean there's just a biological basis for that too man but that is the that's what Society we live in yeah but it's not I don't think it's inequality it's just happened it's just
01:38:47
Brian Atlasbiological you said it's not like I said it's a patriotical society which means you guys hold the Forefront in our society I'm sort of failing to see that but so
01:38:58
Brian Atlasokay you said what is the patriarchy let's go there what's the patriarchy what do you mean by that exactly well you use the term patriarchy what is that I said the Patriotic Society okay what is a patriarchal society when I think of
01:39:09
Mistythat I think of men holding um the hierarchy and for his jobs they get to make the decisions they get to um feel safe or be accepted in most places that they go
01:39:21
Mistyum disagree with with that but and being able to like make laws I mean we're slowly starting to integrate that but having just the say of like how our society goes well you know what's interesting kind of
01:39:33
Brian Atlastying this back into dating on one hand you have women who want men to lead you want men to pay for the first date you want men to be the providers in a relationship but then you also complain
01:39:45
Brian Atlasthat men alleged supposedly when it's been debunked to the wage Gap oh but it's so unfortunate that men earn more than than women and it's so unfortunate that men
01:39:56
Brian Atlashave these leadership positions even though these are characteristics and traits that women desire and demand that men have I don't mind it don't mind what I don't mind it but like I'm me saying
01:40:09
Mistythat men make more even if it's been debunked my experience that you know the places that I've been they have had the hierarchy and jobs and money and and things and I don't mind it because for
01:40:20
Brian Atlasme I I find a different place for me like I don't need to be the breadwinner of the family so I don't mind that well then but but you said how important it was that a guy have his money right you were kind of saying you know you're
01:40:33
Brian Atlasnot interested you don't like broke men for example so wouldn't this mating pressure that women create make it more likely for men to want to rise to the
01:40:44
Brian Atlashighest levels of industry and corporations and try to make the most money because there's this pressure on men that doesn't exist on women because most men most men they're not like looking at a woman and really thinking
01:40:56
Brian Atlaswhoa I really hope like she's a super successful like high earner that's not it's a plus I suppose but I don't think for most men your the money that you bring to a relationship is going to
01:41:08
Brian Atlasreally be a factor in how attractive he finds you sometimes it's a negative right like I've dated men where my money had made them feel some kind of way jealous and they would actually but how is it that we can complain well oh men
01:41:20
Brian Atlasmake more money than women which I'm to me isn't entirely clear uh men make more money than women men are in higher positions of government and in business
01:41:31
Brian Atlasthey you know they're more likely to be CEOs and be in boardrooms ETC but then also women say well when I have kids I want to step back and I want to be provided for and I want men to pay for
01:41:42
Brian Atlasfirst dates and I won't date a broke eye but you don't often hear men saying like having qualms with dating a broke woman so wouldn't it make sense and there's a lot I think there's a lot of other factors that I could articulate but if
01:41:53
Brian Atlasthere's a mating pressure that women impose on men to be financially successful wouldn't it make sense that men yeah would yeah has always always been there it's not like a time when it's not like we're in a place right now
01:42:06
Mistywhere we're trying to take that pressure off but we're still also pressured you guys have a pressure to to provide we have we have a pressure to be Alchemists um you know what I mean and then we're not even women if we don't have babies like you know what it's like and that's
01:42:19
Brian Atlasnot something I believe but that's sometimes how we're treated but I don't think the two things can co-exist you can't demand that men be the sole Breadwinners of families but also demand well we want equality in the workplace I
01:42:32
Mistynever I think that I hear what you're saying but if a woman is to do the same job as a man I think that she should be paid the same however they are though however if a man is doing construction work and you've got him next to a woman if you guys are both
01:42:45
Mistyhired construction to both do some shoveling you're going to be getting twice as much work done and this she is getting so per what you're doing what you're working you deserve to be paid oh that that's how I feel okay so I don't
01:42:58
Mistyfeel like you guys deserve the same same wage for doing different jobs even though you're in the same so the wage Gap is Justified I don't I'm not saying I didn't say it was a problem I wasn't complaining about it I was just stating a fact because I there's going to be a wage gap between me and my future
01:43:11
Mistyhusband you mean he's gonna make several several thousands more than me well are you do you are you a high earner I don't a high earner um not in California I'm grateful to like
01:43:23
Mistylive off of like my modeling acting alone on my own business and I'm able to self like take care of myself gotcha okay um well I agree with you usually the guys in
01:43:37
Jasmineleadership they're the ones that have families yeah yeah and they strive to be and they strive to be in leadership they want to be in leadership they want to get promotions because they want to be able to provide more for the yeah
01:43:47
Brian Atlaswhat you said is a great Point well I've seen these articles where where they're saying a lot of women are not finding economically attractive Partners yes but
01:43:58
Brian Atlasthen you'll also say well I want equality in the workplace and I feel like those two things are like if
01:44:08
Brian Atlasif we're gonna have equality in the workplace then you might struggle to find men who are on your level financially I feel like that's like a I mean not every woman's gonna agree with that stance because not every woman
01:44:21
Gabbywants to be married and have kids some want to be career women for the rest of their lives like so I feel like for them they yeah they want to get paid equal or more because they're they're relying on themselves they're not relying on a man for money but if you're a woman who
01:44:34
Gabbywants a family you want to be able to have the luxury of staying home with your babies versus having to go to work and leaving your kids with strangers and things like that so like I feel like there's different women for different
01:44:44
Brian Atlasthings and what they want sure yeah sure um so okay question for all of you what does a guy need to make bare minimum to get you me happy
01:44:59
Gabbybare minimum I would say a hundred thousand after taxes I prefer 200 000 and up um but I would say after taxes bring home like 100k so bare minimum 100 a
01:45:10
Brian Atlashundred thousand prep but more preferably 200 000 after taxes what about for you uh he's got to be able to afford a house and a family in the current city that he resides
01:45:22
Mistyare you in La I'm sorry do you live in LA I do live in L.A okay would you like to settle down in La you think I mean I'm going to go where the life takes me
01:45:33
Mistywhere the wind carriers um but um you know I'm living in La now so in LA to be able to have a house and a family I see yeah six figures 200 000
01:45:44
Mistybut I mean I do kind of like nerdy guys oh a little bit of autism is kind of hot it's okay all right awesome just a little bit Asperger's guys are open just a little sprinkle all right listen those
01:45:56
Brian Atlasare smart guys don't don't sleep on the uh you know I think I'm actually a little uh I might I think I might be a little autistic another another you're already spoken for there was a little person outside
01:46:08
Brian Atlasthey were asking about you so we have all right uh what about you bare minimum when it comes to income for your husband future husband I would say hopefully 80k and more okay
01:46:20
Brian Atlas80k plus yeah I care more about the lifestyle I don't want to have a mansion like I I this is how I see it like where do you live by the way I live in Arizona
01:46:29
JasmineArizona okay yeah like Phoenix yes Phoenix Arizona okay party yeah so sir continue I don't know like I I'm not about the Mansions I'm not about none of that I care about the lifestyle and I
01:46:42
Jasminealso want him to like listen a little bit to Dave Ramsey as well that'll be great okay actually um I care more about the prop like the net profit what we have I care more
01:46:52
Jasmineabout lowering expenses and being able to have some room to have a good life so right whether that's we can work with adk whatever it means like I don't want him to be super rich and I want him to be able to give me something that I can
01:47:05
Jasmineturn into treasure like if you can give me a trailer it might be trashy me as a wife I'm gonna come and oh yeah you're right um I'll fix that yeah yeah so I want someone who's able
01:47:17
Jasmineto provide give something and then entrust me to me I feel like my job as a wife is to make it even better yeah like if he gives me like a trailer it might not be the best I'm gonna turn it into treasure
01:47:29
Jasmineyeah I want to help Stewart what my man is doing so do I want him to make thousands and millions no that's not what life is about for me I mean that's why I said
01:47:42
Jasmine100K after taxes because I can work with that I can multiply that I mean I plan on being a multi-millionaire I need a base yeah and I'm also a minimalist like I live a small little room I don't own
01:47:53
Jasminethat much clothes like I want someone who isn't that materialist when you say lifestyle what do you mean like would that entail well I'd like to go on a couple vacations every year type of
01:48:04
Jasminething yes I like to invest money in experiences and memories versus purses jewelry all this stuff no yeah so if you if the man can give me
01:48:15
Brian Atlasthat I'll take it okay and question for all of you so once you get married and you start having kids because you guys currently work right you work now but do you will you
01:48:28
Brian Atlaswork up until the point when you start having kids is that kind of the goal or you want to continue working or as soon as you have kids you kind of want to take a step back and then let him be the sole Breadwinner when I get pregnant I
01:48:41
Mistywon't be able to work I'll have to take a sabbatical anyways because I'm a plus size model I'm a fit model so companies rely on my body shape to remain the same but what so if I get pregnant for let's say so I do try to do
01:48:54
Mistytowards shoes I do True Religion jeans if I'm gonna get pregnant then obviously I'm going to size out of the side of the jeans that I'm fitting so when you fit that means you make them right for your size so once I then give my body to you
01:49:07
Mistyfor our child I won't be able to physically work I could probably do some acting I might be able to do some attorney shoots but my main income my LLC will be I'll be giving it up basically for us to have a life got it okay and you're willing to do that for
01:49:20
Mistythe man that I love hell yeah I've taken care of absolutely I'm getting on that ship and remember I told you earlier if I get on the ship and it goes down together but I want to make sure the ship I get on is not like a row boat I want to make sure it's a freaking yacht or something you know like if we're
01:49:32
Mistygonna go down I want to make sure that I'm giving up what I have I want it's got to be better than what I got I want whatever my life is with this man to be better than what I have right it's not better than what's the point that's
01:49:44
Brian Atlasthis isn't the camera it still looks blue oh well I don't know maybe it'll fix itself later we'll we'll check in on a bit so uh okay wait I had something here related to this
01:49:56
Brian Atlaswe were talking about patriarchy I guess we can come back to patriarchy why uh okay so question question so do
01:50:06
Brian Atlaswe currently live yes in a patriarchy in my i m o yes okay all right
01:50:15
Mistyum so what does that mean though to be living in a patriarchy that means that I don't know that it has to mean something or not mean something it just always has been this way well you'll often hear use
01:50:27
Brian Atlasyou'll hear terms like oppression right so under patriarchy do you think that women are oppressed in certain yes yeah certain ways yes yeah yes it depends on the environment I feel
01:50:39
Brian Atlaslike anyone can be oppressed it just depends on other factors gender is one factor but there's other ones okay um and so you guys say yes are women oppressed yes yes under patriarchy are
01:50:51
Mistymen the oppressors if women are oppressed then are men the oppressors I wouldn't call all men oppressors I just feel like they benefit from a system okay yeah they benefit from A system that even if they're not just like when you talk about white and black or people racist
01:51:05
Mistyand all this sort of thing it's like you benefit from A system that has been built to make you okay I mean it's written in our in our in our amendments like all men are created equal it just starts from the beginning you can say oh but it really started out
01:51:20
Brian AtlasI mean when they say that for example when you say human but that's not what they meant when they said it and they know that but okay and when you go down the list of things for example when you say mankind that refers to both men and
01:51:32
Brian Atlaswomen it doesn't just mean men you say that but at the same time they didn't mean that when they wrote it they didn't consider black people I wasn't human even I wasn't talking to George Washington but we know this from history
01:51:44
Brian Atlaswell I don't when okay we're talking about the Constitution I'm that's not an area of that I'm I have an expert expertise in but my understanding is when it comes to language when it comes
01:51:55
Brian Atlasto etymology when people are using like men or mankind for example they are they are referring to people as a whole that's I mean that's what you're saying and that's what we have assumed now as
01:52:07
Mistybut when it was written how it was based our our Forefront our forefathers our country being built I mean it wasn't Thanksgiving dude like it started with a hierarchy and it was the white male and
01:52:18
Mistythey wrote themselves as the hierarchy well it doesn't say it doesn't say it doesn't say anything about white people even consider other people to be inclusive they had to decide a black people were one one-third of human
01:52:31
Mistyconsidered to be one-third of human after we were emancipated or what have you so it's like it's still written you can say it changed it's like religion right now we let certain people in religion and now you can't do this and you can do this and you can have many wives and you can't just like things
01:52:44
Brian Atlaschange sure it change but when you look at how and why it's because that's how it started okay but let's let's talk modern day right okay so because what the Constitution was
01:52:57
JasmineI don't think you can get into modern day without it recognizing 50 years ago or something I just want to say this I just feel like it is it's a battle between good and evil and it can be anyone a woman can be really evil a man
01:53:08
Jasminecan be really evil there's history you know of what uh and you know what gender might have more power this and that but I feel like now it's just it's really a battle between good and evil and it's
01:53:19
Jasmineyour choice what you want to be I know some women that are really really bad and guys are really really bad and the opposite and some people get caught more some people don't and also media and all this stuff so but okay so um
01:53:34
Mistyare you oppressed um I know there are people that try to oppress me but my mind frame is I can do whatever and I can do like I can do it all so I don't feel necessarily but I
01:53:47
Mistyknow especially growing up in in the background that I've had um I was very I'm very hyper aware to people when they try to press me now because I wasn't raised with it necessarily but mine comes more in the form of my skin color rather than in my
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Mistygender because if you're already gonna dislike me because my skin color then I'm also my gender and then I'm also fat yeah so it's like you found all the reasons to hate people so like interest you're talking intersectionality that's but that's my daily like I don't get to just be like oh you don't like me because I'm fat oh you don't like me
01:54:12
Brian Atlasbecause I'm a woman it's like you might not like me for any one of these reasons and you're still going to act that way to me no matter what okay well we're speaking just within the confines of of gender here but okay um
01:54:24
Brian Atlasso oppressed because of gender impressed um yes I feel like I've definitely missed out on things because of my gender
01:54:34
Brian Atlasokay or I've been treated away or fondled away or have even you know but also at the same time on the systemic level is that kind of what you're talking about like systemic oppression I
01:54:47
Mistymean because I hear that term a lot so what it's funny the way she got up [Music]
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Brian Atlasbecause I'm just trying to think okay when it comes strictly to gender right I'm just trying to think like what right or privilege as a man do I have that that you don't or that women don't the one thing you actually mentioned earlier
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Brian Atlasand I agree with you is the shirt off thing but that's really the and in some cities in some places it's legal other places it's not it's supposed to be legal but people don't do it but yes there are
01:55:25
Mistythere are definitely places where women can go shirtless in New York Oh I thought only on the beaches I don't know I thought I saw like an ad campaign where a lady was walking down the street
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Brian Atlaswith their free free the titties yeah yeah that's the only writer rights that I can think of though when it comes to like a system like laws where when it comes to rights that men have that women don't
01:55:50
Jasmineyou think women should be able to have you know their titties out I'm down I'm with the fruit for this because I feel like that's that's a rule for I feel I understand why that's a
01:56:02
Jasminething I lived in France for a while and they're not as simple yeah I understand why women are not allowed to show everything because obviously you know this can be very
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Jasminesexual but that's why it's because we sexualize everything yes especially in this country like Society is made up by the people right and it's it's true governed by the government though and and guys chess no one really gets turned on but you'll see men who were just
01:56:27
Gabbytalking about chubby men who've got bigger titties than I do you know Instagram like you know Flags you if you show like a titty even I know some plus-sized guys who have gotten banned from Instagram or gotten their
01:56:39
Gabbypictures taken off because of their top list and Instagram registers it as a woman's breast but it's a man so they're they're discriminating against fat man there's another way Instagram
01:56:49
Gabbydiscrimination there's another one wow there you have it folks what about women that um aren't allowed to breastfeed in public without being harassed by the public I think that's oppression like you a woman you can't help but to