Single Mom w/ Neck Tattoo Brings NOTHING To The Table?! | Dating Talk #90

Date: 2023-08-07

Duration: 3h 11m

Guests

Brian Atlas

JJenna Fox (DT90)>

CCamila (DT90)>

CCaitlyn (DT90)>

CCamila 2 (DT90)>

KKarissa (DT90)>

MMadison (DT94)>

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00TTS Reader(audience)

SPEAKER_01Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_02Kira(guest)

SPEAKER_03Camila(guest)

SPEAKER_04Caitlyn(guest)

SPEAKER_05Madison(guest)

SPEAKER_09Karissa(guest)

SPEAKER_10Linda(guest)

SPEAKER_12Keep (Kiki)(guest)

SPEAKER_13Jenna Fox(guest)

SPEAKER_14Camila (2)(guest)

Key Moments

QuoteKarissa announces she is a born-again virgin and has been celibate for ~4 years, waiting for marriage with no intention of backing down.

“I am currently single I have been single for 9 years... I am not sexually active and I do not intend to be and I'm ultimately going to be waiting for my husband”

QuoteKarissa reveals her celibacy was broken once in Australia under social pressure — a "very weak moment in my faith." One-night stand she partially consented to; she takes full responsibility.

“he kept asking... I said no that's for my husband... I had a weak moment my faith was not strong at that point in time”

QuoteJenna Fox reveals she has performed in a 15-man blowbang (her largest group scene) and a 156-girl all-female orgy (participated twice).

“I've blown 15 guys nice all right in one sitting... I've been on a 156 girl orgy before”

QuoteKarissa challenges Brian on body count hypocrisy: men in red pill space with 200+ body counts expecting virgin women is hypocritical. Brian clarifies the distinction between preference and behavioral expectation.

“any man that has like over 50 over 100 over 250... inside the red pill space for you to say that... I just I don't understand it why would you not have that same expectation of yourself”

ControversyViewer TTS calls out Linda as "the single woman who has a non-liveable income and a child" working as a life/dating coach. Linda declines to respond in detail; Brian confirms she has a son.

“the single woman who has a non livean and a child is a life/ dating coach do you have a response... I have a kid do you have a response to that”

QuoteCamila 2's ex "Cody" sends a $99 TTS claiming they broke up because she wanted to start OnlyFans. Camila corrects live on stream: they broke up in sophomore year of high school because Cody wanted to sleep with guys, and his sex tape leaked in high school.

“this question is for Camila this is your ex Cody it's embarrassing that we had to break up because you wanted to start an on live van... Cody we broke up my sophomore year of high school because you wanted to sleep with guys your sex tape actually got leaked in high school”

ControversyLinda makes extended argument that red pill community is hypocritical: shames women for choosing wrong men AND for having high standards simultaneously. Invokes Andrew Tate leaked messages. Brian pushes back and tries to land the plane; audience TTS sides with Brian. Linda warns of wounded masculine energy masking as integrity.

“there are a lot of men in these communities who shame and judge women for choosing the wrong men but then on the flip side they shame and judge women for having too high standards”

Topics Discussed

Introductions & Show Announcements

Brian opens from Santa Barbara, CA. Technical difficulties with stream lag early on. Guests introduce themselves: Keep/Kiki (23, model/OF/acting, Hawaii), Linda (36, mindset coach/MFT student, single mom), Jenna Fox (27, porn actress), Camila (21, OF, in relationship), Caitlyn (OF, talking stage), Karissa (21, nursing student, born-again virgin), Camila 2 (OF, single), Kira (28, accounting manager), Madison (18, SBCC student/bar host/Whatever Podcast).

Relationship Status & Dating History

Brian surveys current relationship status and dating history. Keep: single 3 years, 4yr and 3yr past relationships, paid ex's rent. Linda: single 3 years, coach, single mom. Jenna Fox: single since 2018. Camila: in 2-year relationship. Caitlyn: talking-stage (1 month, no sex yet). Karissa: 9 years single, born-again virgin. Madison: in 11-month relationship. Discussion of situationships, talking stages, and honesty in dating intentions.

OnlyFans & Adult Content Industry

Multiple guests do OnlyFans. Discussion of income levels (six figures mentioned, not all disclose). Content types: Keep does solo and one BG with ex; Caitlyn does solo; Camila 2 does solo, GG, and full BG; Jenna Fox is a professional porn actress (industry body count ~50). Whether exes minded the content. Plans to retire before marriage/kids. Running "is it pink" TikTok bit from Caitlyn's street interview content. Madison notes Wiki Feet entry. Jenna describes largest scenes: 15-man blowbang and 156-girl all-female orgy.

Sexual Timing & How Long to Wait

Panel discusses how long to wait before having sex. Keep: wants to start as friends, wait 1-2 months minimum. Linda: advises clients not to have sex too early; no blanket time frame; encourages at least 2-3 months to commitment. Jenna Fox: whenever the connection feels right. Karissa: until marriage (no oral/anal/penetration before wedding). Caitlyn: when tension is undeniable, ~1-2 months. Madison: no time frame, connection-based. Discussion of soaking (Mormon sex practice), one night stands, and whether waiting changes relationship outcomes.

Masculine/Feminine Energy & Relationship Dynamics

Linda presents framework of masculine/feminine energy polarity in relationships. Advocates for 60-70% feminine energy in herself seeking 60-70% masculine energy partner. Argues initiating contact as a woman tends to attract men in unbalanced feminine energy. Kira asks if shyness equals femininity. Brian questions whether this is practical. Panel discusses who should approach/initiate, with some women having approached men. Discussion of sugar mama dynamic from Keep's past.

What Do You Bring To The Table

Brian asks each guest what they bring to a relationship. Linda objects to the framing as inherently power-imbalanced. Extended debate on whether asking this question signals a power dynamic or is simply practical. Brian argues Linda's avoidance of the question implies she brings nothing. Linda distinguishes between values/emotional bring vs surface metrics. Keep: emotional support, financial independence. Others: loyalty, consistency, physical attributes. Brian notes the irony of women valuing men who "bring things to the table" while objecting to being asked.

Body Count & Sexual History

Round-table body count disclosure. Keep: ~5. Linda: declined. Jenna Fox: 2 personal, ~50 industry. Caitlyn: ~8. Karissa: 1 (technically). Camila 2: 9 men, 3 women. Kira: 0. Madison: 4. Brian: declines. Panel debates whether body count matters to men and women. Brian argues high body count is suboptimal for long-term partnership. Linda argues discernment and healing are more important than number. Karissa argues men should be held to same standard they demand of women.

Hookup Culture, Men vs Women, & Dating App Dynamics

Brian argues a larger proportion of women participate in hookup culture than men because women have easier access to casual sex. Cites dating app data (women matching with small percentage of men). Linda and others push back arguing access does not equal behavior. Discussion of 1% of highly attractive men sleeping with disproportionate number of women. Panel debates whether this constitutes a double standard. Brian distinguishes between preference and expectation regarding body count.

Final Discussion & Closing

Discussion of whether women support other women's toxic behavior. Karissa and Camila 1 advocate holding friends accountable. Madison agrees good friendship includes confrontation when wrong. Linda final thoughts: dating pools get smaller as discernment grows — see this as positive, not scarcity. Karissa final thoughts: men who submit to God become good leaders; waiting culture makes filtering easier. Brian's closing comment: men must carry conversations and relationships. Show wraps due to time.

Red Pill Community, Andrew Tate, & Hypocrisy Debate

Linda critiques red pill community for simultaneously judging women for choosing wrong men AND for having high standards. Notes contradiction between Andrew Tate's messaging and leaked behavior. Brian defends "red pill" as simply meaning accurate view of reality. Linda argues many red pill adherents use it to shame women rather than seek genuine healing. Brian: red pill = truth. Linda: red pill community is often wounded men feeding each other superficial validation. Brian asks Linda for 3 things red pill gets wrong; she cites Rolo Tomassi's social proof argument about men with many women being attractive (contradicted by evolutionary research).

Transcript

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Keep (Kiki)the Purity but they say all that too and that's acceptable and when they say all that they can say all that but then when it comes to it sometimes I've also had friends who were guys who were with a

Keep (Kiki)virgin and it's totally okay if anyone is like there's nothing wrong with it but then they ended up being kind of disappointed cuz they were like I couldn't actually have fun she didn't know what she was doing it felt more like a chore or something and that's not

Keep (Kiki)all the cases that's not every case but there's like the fantasy that we build up in our head and reality is so much different than anything we can imagine just like imagining a guy is going to like yeah do some big Grand romantic

Brian Atlasgesture or something ends up just being a flop or something sure well so there's two things there I mean the this girl in question I don't obviously we don't know the details but um temperamentally she could have just been

Brian Atlaseven though she had sex with this guy could have just been kind of not super into it but as far as her not knowing what to do I actually think that reflects more on the guy because if you

Keep (Kiki)know what you're doing as a guy you can take a girl and show her teach her very true very true so if you know what you're if you know what you're doing in the bedroom as a guy you like you can some don't though I

Camila (2)sure I completely agree with like men wanting Purity it makes sense like 100% makes sense I don't know why there there should be no debate for that I don't know it's so like bad to say you want a

Camila (2)virgin it's not that big of a deal but it's like is does it you you should maintain that Purity yourself then I feel like if you sit here and you're like I want a virgin and I want I want

Camila (2)somebody who's super pure 100% I agree with you go crazy but you also shouldn't have slept with 150 women just for you to teach me baby girl it takes maybe to sleep with two people for you to understand and two people consistently

Camila (2)to understand what you like and what they like so hypothetically if I was a virgin 100% I I mean I wouldn't be upset if my man had two partners because it's like you weren't you lived 20 something

Camila (2)years and you could have slept with 50 women but you chose two you chose two to learn and gather and whatever you need to do and you found me and that was that

Camila (2)that's totally fine but don't be out here [ __ ] 15 women and expect to get a pure woman yeah exactly you're not totally wrong the the one thing thing

Brian AtlasIID just point out though is I don't think it's wrong for a guy let's say if a guy has slept with a lot of women I don't think it's wrong for him to be attracted to a woman or want a woman

Brian Atlaswho's had a low body count or who was even a virgin likees right 100% I think I think if a guy slept with 50 girls and he meets a virgin it's like oh my like

Camila (2)now I want it because no one's had it yeah it's it's what men do men like the it's like something that's never been touched before like 100% you're going want to be that it's like a trophy like you want that and [ __ ] I'm not going to

Camila (2)sit here in line and say I wouldn't want a virgin you a a dude who's a virgin it's like a chase it is fun is it it feels easier it's like he's so strong in your values to be 26 and a virgin well

Brian Atlasokay there's different let's say there's different kind of there there's uh I mean there's there's guys who are like just whether it's their looks or their personality

Brian Atlaslike either might repel women so they invol arily haven't been able to or there are certainly men who are super attractive men but they're like waiting whether it's for religious reasons or

Brian Atlasthey're not particularly inclined to just have casual sex so um but I guess the you I don't think you're totally wrong I definitely think there is something to like men should lead sort

Brian Atlasof by example and not be [ __ ] man [ __ ] and then expect women to be there is a bit of difference though between men and women but I guess the one thing I would say is though is

Brian Atlasthat in order for you want in order for you to want to be with someone or want a certain quality in the partner do you need does do you need to possess that

Camila (2)same characteristics in order for you to want that characteristic in a partner no no so in that's no but I wasn't disagreeing with you I think that's 100% I think you you're right like it's not

Caitlynwrong for a man who slept with 30 women to want or 50 women 100 women to want someone that's pure I think it's totally normal no but you can't expect that it's because it's not about characteristic

Caitlynit's about it's about action like it's weird to say oh he can't want a woman that's a virgin because he's had this many bodies whatever slept with this

Caitlynmany girls but then it's not the same token with characteristics because in that sense I do want somebody that is different from me I want somebody that lacks the part that I that I have

Caitlynstrengthen and vice versa 100% I don't you don't want to be with somebody dep on action so it's like right I expect your actions to be the same as my actions not my

Brian Atlascharacteristics yeah and I think where I agree with you is I don't think men should be striving to just be absolute [ __ ] man [ __ ] just running through a bunch of chicks me personally I prefer you know longer term relationships if I

Brian Atlassleep with a girl I want there to be continuity I have no interest in sleeping with a girl once and then never never talking to her again um so I don't think like guys should really be trying to just like if you're only going to sleep with a girl once I

Brian Atlasme personally like look guys can move however they want one I don't think it's worth your time as a guy there's a whole bunch of reasons why I'm not going to get into it but in any case I think if you are going to sleep with a girl you should at least have an intention maybe

Brian Atlasyou only see each other for a month maybe you find out you don't like each other whatever but at least have some sort of emal contion of like wanting to be wanting there to be some continuity it's moving with intent I wouldn't

Brian Atlasobject to like a guy who's in the past he slept with 100 women I wouldn't sit there and I wouldn't be like hm he can't it's wrong for him to want to date a woman with a low body count I

Brian Atlaswouldn't object to that no it like I said it's a preference you can want what you want in the same way that a lot of times we desire traits in a partner that we don't possess ourselves like maybe you want someone who's wealthy but

Brian Atlasyou're not wealthy yourself you find the fact that they're wealthy attractive but you're broke you know or are funny but you're not particularly funny or whatever it may be so we all desire traits in partners that us ourselves

Camila (2)don't necessarily possessed right but at what point does it become delusional when you can't have that what do you mean like at what point like at what boundaries when it comes to body count or or like I mean sure like at what point does it become

Camila (2)delusional to think like because I've done this I can of course I can have that on the GU part like delusional both yeah on the you can speak from the GU part at what point for you for a guy if

Camila (2)you slept with 250 women for you to sit back when they be like yeah nope I'm over this I I really would like just a

Brian Atlaspure virgin I I really want that at what point does it become completely delusional I don't think it becomes delusional at any point whether you can but are you proving that for your

Brian Atlaslifestyle but okay if you're let's say you're upfront with a girl and cuz some women who are more Chast let's say who don't have high body count or who are virin they themselves might object to

Brian Atlaspartnering with someone as a partnering with a guy who's was a but then there's also Liars that's true that's true and there's also a subset of women who are not as preoccupied with body count as

Brian Atlasmen are like a lot of I think women care about it less there's certainly women that do care about it I can 100% women care about it a little less than that because it's almost expected of men to do what they do it's expected like I'm

Camila (2)not it would be a little bit delusional of me to think I'm going to marry a virgin or I'm Mary I'm going to be with a virgin it's men do what men do best and that's Chase and seek and get the pr wait so you'd be down for a virgin like

Camila (2)if I knew a virgin could I get you guys linked up or what probably not no oh okay so you're not down for the Virgin I mean I'd be down if there was like an emotional connection right fair enough does body count matter to you to me to

Brian Atlasto me no to him we should ask the table this um yeah body count matters okay yeah to me oh wait I should have asked the table well okay um yeah it matters okay so because it matters you won't

Brian Atlasanswer that question what do you mean will you answer what your body count is oh what my body count is well we got to go around the table really quick before I get to me but um so add something quick quick show of hands go ahead okay

Lindaso um I completely agree um sorry I just lost my train of I had it I lost it okay we'll come back to it okay okay so uh

Brian Atlasshow of hands who here thinks body count there's always two ways to look at got it cuz you could you could think of it as hold on you could think of it as okay body count

Camila (2)matters to the guy does it matter to the girl do you object to men caring about body count let's do that show of hands wait what do you object to men caring about body count about a woman's body

Brian Atlascount like I as a woman would I be mad if he asked me my body count sure is that the question or if he cared or if he cares about my body count yeah would do you do you get offended to that do you take issue with it do you take issue with it

Keep (Kiki)I don't take issue with it I just think if something you ask in high school or something like okay fair enough yeah no I don't take issue with it you don't take issue with it I don't care yeah not

Brian Atlasat all no okay um so we should go around the table what's everybody's body count I think

Keep (Kiki)probably five probably that okay yeah that might be a little bit higher really only St with the people I've been with in like a couple other situations

Lindaokay thought I would be with them I'm not going to share my body count plus or minus 10 I'm not going to

Jenna Foxshare my body count okay I have two industry-wise maybe 50 but personal life

Unknowntwo okay is it men and women let's do uh breakdown for both uh

Brian Atlasnine men and three women okay 11 men zero women wait have you you two have

Kirayou guys I wish I wish oh okay all right just on o I pay L IG bio uh i' pay for that um zero you should do it with me

Brian AtlasI'm so down four uh repeated I don't think four eight oh okay there you have it no

Brian Atlaswhat's yours and well I I don't reveal my body count so you made us answer you can did I did I I am a uh I'm a man of

Brian AtlasGod I do not reveal man of God Plus or 10 well whatever all the girls said plus orus 10 that's a real number I don't

Karissadisclose I know close okay I'll your Poker Face Brian I have a question for you what's up do you think that it is hypocritical of men who

Karissaexpect women to be virgins but there's is like over you know like 50 over 100 over 250 you think well yeah but I'd like to hear from Brian like what is what is your

Brian Atlasparticular position on it because you were kind of vague no I don't I don't excuse me I don't think it's hypocritical um but aren't they contributing to you

Karissaknow like you know so like a lot of these men they look at the hoes and you know like they'll say oh she's a hoe and things like that but isn't it like isn't it hypocritical

Karissabecause you're contributing to it you're actually making them into a hoe because you want a good time like I'm not saying you I just want to say

Karissathat not not you but just you knower call me a I don't called I don't want but I am saying like any man that has like over you know 50 over 100 over

Karissa250 like you know I mean especially inside I think especially inside the red pill space for you to say that and I've seen some men on here and I completely

Karissaagree with most of what they say but then when they say their body count I just I don't understand it why would you not have that same expectation of

Karissayourself if you're going to expect that of a woman and I'm not saying that you know like you should have you know like only 10 like I mean I think 10 is Right

KarissaWhere I would probably want it you know for like a man sure but at the same time if it is like over 10 or I I mean I'd prefer it to be lower but if it's over

Karissa10 o over 20 over 30 like you've had men on here that are upwards of like 200 and they're inside the red pill space and I just think it's very hypocritical I

Brian Atlasdon't okay yeah I see I see what you're saying so I don't think it's wrong or hypocritical for a man to want even if he has a high body count I

Brian Atlasdon't think it's hypoc IAL for him to want a partner with a low body count however I think it would be hypocritical if he said women should have low body

Brian Atlascounts but he sleeps with a lot of women and he's he's contributing to the high body count I think that would be hypocritical however um what is the

Karissanumber that you think is high for a woman no for a man for both for bodyc cap well per age for a man who wants a

Karissawoman that is pure because if you had 250 women and you want a virgin I understand bi logically why you would want that but what makes you think that

Brian Atlasshe'll want you I mean she waited for you so why why would y to compare sure I I don't if a woman wanted to disqualify

Brian Atlasa guy because of his past sexual experiences I'm totally okay with that I don't have a double standard where it's like women are not entitled to have a preference when it comes to if they don't want to date a guy who's a [ __ ]

Brian Atlaswho's a Manor who slept with a lot of chicks totally cool I both men and women are allowed to have their preferences standards and boundaries when it comes to that sort of thing um but again I

Camila (2)just to reiterate I do not object to a guy who has a high body count preferring a woman with a low body count or who's a virgin that's like saying like that's like if a girl says I want a

Camila (2)guy who's wealthy but the guy's like I don't want a girl who broke it's a pre it's just a preference like it is a preference it's simply a preference you can't it's well I understand the preference but it's more the expectation that I have a problem with cuz I think

Brian Atlasthe expectation there zero expectation there's no expectation it's you can want something and not expect it no but I I think I sort of get what you're meaning like guys who are like man these women out here and I try not

Brian Atlasto you I certainly think I don't use this sort of language like ah these women out here shouldn't be [ __ ] [ __ ] and [ __ ] like sleeping around with a bunch of dudes but then they go out and [ __ ] a bunch of chicks and have casual sex with them have one night

Brian Atlasstands that's where I think it gets hypocritical but I don't think it's necessarily hypocritical uh as a guy to prefer a woman with a low body count but you have

Karissaa high body I completely agree with that yeah like I think the preference is fine my my position is more I think that if that's an expectation that that man has

Karissaand he has upwards of a hundred you know I think then it becomes hypocritical I mean I think I think there's account I think there's accountability on both sides I think I think men

Brian Atlasshould you know it's a tough but I I think men ought to

Brian Atlasnot you ought to at least be open to a continuity I don't think like I don't think men should be having one night stands with women if a girl's in town for the [ __ ] week and

Brian Atlasyou meet her at a bar are like I my recommendation to men for a variety of reasons some of some of which I'm not going to get into is probably just don't sleep with her it's just not

Brian Atlasto me if given the option of and I've had this option before like if a girl is in town and she's going to be in town for a night and we can [ __ ] once to me

Brian Atlasit's not even worth my time like it's not worth it to [ __ ] a chick once like so I don't know if that adequately answers and also similarly I would say

Brian Atlaswomen if you're out you're traveling you're in [ __ ] Vienna for 3 days don't go [ __ ] an Austrian dude you know just saying I have a question that's kind of off topic is that okay yeah sure it's like kind of the same topic but a little

Keep (Kiki)bit off for it's good how do you guys feel about like everyone how do you guys feel about when women are virgins a lot of times they're seen as like you guys like the trophies or like people like

Keep (Kiki)crave them like use them as a fetish sometimes want to have that Purity but then a lot of times when a man is a virgin they'll get called out by their friends I'm be like dude you're Verge we

Keep (Kiki)got to get you laid or like it becomes like a joke and they make fun of them instead which I mean I don't see it that way but it's all over the Internet it's all over the Bros it's how they treat other guys when I don't know if they

Madisondeserve that but that's kind of like the standpoint it's like oh you haven't [ __ ] yet like I don't see it that way either like my very first boyfriend um he was a virgin and he made me wait till he was ready and I like fully respected

Keep (Kiki)that like it honestly said a lot more about him as women I think we respect it but I think as a lot of the guys will look at them and be like dud you're a Verge like come on let's get you w like I know someone that is easy or something

Caitlynlike you see that all the time in college and which is why a lot of guy a lot of guys aren't virgins these days because it's kind of yeah it's almost masculine to have a variety of women or

Caitlynto have been with a variety of women which is weird but that's society and it's feminine to not have Partners to not have had excess amount of Partners they use it as their roster too it's

Keep (Kiki)like I've been with this one this one this one it's a flex because it shows masculinity like I can get these girls if a girl is like well I've been with these people they'll look and be like it's like because men are because if you

Camila (2)go back like men are meant to chase the woman not vice versa so it's like when a guy has all these women he's just quote unquote conquered that many women so it's not that doesn't work the other

Brian Atlasway around I mean unless you want it to like okay go crazy I think another component of the double standard thing is it's way easier for women to get laid Sam donated

TTS Reader99 red dress promiscuity is a double standard that benefits men and not women Society treats men and women differently in this men are considered studs while

TTS Readerwomen are considered 34s women would rather pick men with experience in the bed what's a 304 what's that uh it's like an area

Brian Atlascode I'm pretty sure no it's it's a stupid kind of juvenile calculator thing where if you type in 30 to calculator it spells ho like Bo H

Brian Atlasho back to the playground back to the playground um so Alvin Sam thank you very much yeah there's definitely I mean double standards when it when it comes to that sort of stuff and uh and I think just

Brian Atlasbefore it came in I was mentioning com comparatively speaking it's more difficult for men to get laid than it is for women to get laid so there's there's

Caitlyna difference there more diff wait it's harder for men to get laid Yeah I'd say cuz women are so scared to increase their body count men they don't care that is there's also that but then

Camila (2)there's also like if women want to have sex they're going to have sex because yeah like if a girl if you go up to a guy and you're like I want to [ __ ] you you you can say that you can say if a guy comes up to you and says I want to

Camila (2)[ __ ] you whoo you're going to be like whoo the SE that doesn't work yeah yeah it has to be it has to come with a woman who wants to do that too feel like yeah that's what I'm saying like either you're the type of woman that's down for

Camila (2)that and that's cool like M of respect to you you do what you got to do but for the majority I feel like if a man went up to you and just came on you that strong it's not working go ahead um I just have a question for you I know like

Camilain the past you've mentioned that it's different if a man has a high body than it is for a woman and I was just asking do you still agree with that and if that's the case why do you think

Brian Atlasso so okay in the past I've said it's different well it is um for a couple reasons one as already previously stated

Brian Atlasit's more difficult for men to get laid than it is for women to get laid so there's a certain degree

Brian Atlasof props or respect that comes with like it's it's kind of impressive to some degree if a guy is like he has he

Brian Atlashas game and he can like he he's a ladies guy like he's got game he knows how to smooth talk whatever like that's a that's kind of reflective of either

Brian Atlashis status his physical attractiveness to a degree and uh his Charisma so there are some coinciding traits that would

Brian Atlasnecessitate him being able to sleep with a lot of women whereas like any woman if she was so inclined could like she need not be charismatic she need not be funny

Brian Atlasshe not need not be even particularly physically attractive and she could get in if she wanted to she okay here's the way I often like to put

Brian Atlasit an average woman has the equivalent sexual pull of basically like a top tier male athlete aless celebrity musician actor like if a woman was so inclined

Brian Atlasshe could sleep with five guys a day five new guys a day average woman if she wanted to yeah um whereas in order for a guy to be able to do that he has to be in like the top 1% of people and usually

Brian Atlasfor a guy to be able to do that he's going to have to have like some pretty insane status so either athlete musician actor do

Camilayou would you say that a woman that has a high body count is would you say that she is not a high value woman and if that's the case would you say the same

Brian Atlasthing for a man who has a high body count as in not a high value man well I don't like this term I in the same way I don't like the term high value woman high value man because it's kind of I

Brian Atlasdon't know it's it's kind of like the alpha beta I don't like that sort of terminology but do I think a woman who has slept with a lot of men who has a

Brian Atlashigh body count do I think she's a she would be a suboptimal partner yes am I less attracted to her because of that

Brian Atlasyes would you say the same thing for a man though would you think it's the way that a woman sees them no I don't think so because again this kind of goes back to like men and

Brian Atlaswomen valuing things differently like a guy who slept with a lot of women he's he's probably had to bring something to

Brian Atlasthe table either Charisma humor personality status or looks usually a package and so he's he's going to be attractive that

Brian Atlastype of guy is probably the type of guy that a lot of women are going to find attractive so it's not some women if if it's within your personal value system to not want to date a promiscuous man

Brian Atlasyou may not particularly want to partner with someone who has that sort of past but he's going to have the requisite attraction trigger to be deemed attractive by vast majority of men

Brian Atlaswhereas a woman with a high body count any any woman could go get a high body count and it's not going to it's never going to positively impact her

Camilaattractiveness to men in any capacity so you would agree that typically women I know you mentioned this before but I guess I just want to confirm that

Brian Atlaswomen are sort of the reason why hookup culture exists so I think obviously look both both

Brian Atlaspeople play some role to a degree however women gatekeep sex so you could argue that because women control access to sex because they

Brian Atlasgatekeep sex that they're ultimately the ones that control whether there's a hookup culture or not I would disagree I do agree that

Camilatypically you know it takes for consensual sex of course it takes a woman it takes a woman to to say yes in order for a man to say

Camilayes so like you said like it takes to to tango basically mhm I would say though though women permit sex I would argue ultimately at

Camilathe end of the day it is the men's fault that it even continues cuz it's a man responsibility to say no it's their decision they can say a woman said yes to me but now it's up to me to decide will I actually commit to this

Brian Atlaswell I mean there's a whole bunch of Dynamics at play here but since men are the pursuers there's there's a component there of as a woman if you're the one who's being pursued then you're kind of the one

Brian Atlaswho's gatekeeping the other thing I would say is that [ __ ] sorry I evade damn it I had something good but it [ __ ] slipped my mind could you repeat your last

Camilastatement one more time sorry I would agree that women allow that sex to take place but ultimately is the man that decides if he

Camilais going to continue with her agreement essentially and so I would argue that ultimately it is the man's fault because

Karissait is his job to say no even if she says yes I completely agree and so I I have this uh you know kind of metaphor so like if you take it back to the Bible and you think of Adam and Eve right so

Karissaultimately you know like the serpent came to Eve why because she's more emotional and she's um pretty much more easily manipulated but then at the AL so

TTS Readershe took the Apple hold on let me just cut let me cut you off really quick well the Stefan donated $100 I love how the single woman who has

Brian Atlasa non livean and a child is a life/ dating coach do you have a response to that only I don't she doesn't have an O but she does you have a kid correct yes

Brian AtlasI have a kid do you have a response to that um it would pretty much be my same response to her earlier beautiful okay didn't mean to cut you off however and I

Brian Atlaslisten I don't object to religious arguments however not every not everybody subscribes to your religion therefore it's not no but it's just a story right

Karissaso ultimately ultimately all right she gave the Apple to Adam and Adam could have said no so ultimately the fault is on Adam because why it is his role right if you just think about the story all

Karissaright so men are supposed to be leaders men are supposed to be you know in charge they're supposed to be the caretakers the providers and he's supposed to say no to her when she's out

Karissaof line so therefore if he says and he you know like if he permits it and she's being promiscuous and he's going to permit It ultimately he has a certain amount of accountability that if he is

Karissagoing to lead her he is leading her in the completely wrong way so ultimately yes inside of like the dating scene um

Karissahe's not responsible for every single woman but he is responsible for himself and how he carries himself and therefore I think that she has a point and I

Karissacompletely agree I think men have um women have a lot of responsibility they are indeed The Gatekeepers of sex but then it comes down to also ultimately

Brian Atlasthe man because she would have absolutely no power if men just said no okay but in order for you to be a leader you need to have people that are prepared to follow and the fact of the

Brian Atlasmatter is you can be a fantastic leader but because you have feminist propaganda it is impossible for men to lead women demanded equality you got it that is

Brian Atlasvery hard you can't lead someone who wants to [ __ ] Mutiny and who who is not prepared to follow here's the thing a lot of women want leadership and they're honestly biologically and

Brian Atlasevolutionary evolutionarily attracted to leadership traits in men decisive dominant masculine

Camila (2)leader however again you these same women do not want to follow so and I agree with you I think there's a lot of I feel like that's just

Brian Atlasbecome a common thing now that's just now trying to be this trend in my opinion look I think I think both men and women bear responsibility here I think both men and women have

TTS Readeraccountability but to say that that men Bear full responsibility there's a lot of women who don't want to follow it's only a small percentage of men who

TTS Readerparticipate in culture that's why so many women find themselves in situationships ladies stop gaining bodies and start gaining muscles thanks

Brian Atlasbriian for the new muscles mommy preference what yo vald uh thank you very much for your TTS man appreciate it who are you talking who's the muscle mommy at this table can we get can we

Brian Atlasget some bicep little double buys is this a muscle Mommy right here it might be it might be her okay there you have it she's got some guns too there you go um may be in the gy I was actually out there I actually had written down the percentage there because that was the

Brian Atlasthat was one of the points I was going to make is that um when it comes to well shouldn't you know your your point point

Brian Atlaswas it's men's fault kind of like when it comes to hookup culture like it's it's men to blame but if I told you if I were to tell you that more women engage

Camilain hookup culture than do men what would you say to that I would say that the women wouldn't be able to if the man didn't if if the man said no in the beginning she say Okay hold let

Brian Atlasme just clarify one thing let's say there's 1% of men who are like hyper attractive men who can have their pick of a bunch of women who are never going to commit to them that one so I mean

Brian Atlasyou're telling wait can you that last okay so well my position is is it's not like an equal distribution of people engaging in hookup culture there's a higher proportion of women who are engaging in hookup culture than there

Brian Atlasare men because women are more capable of engaging in hookup culture so what's happening is and this is backed up by what's going on on dating apps you have women who are swiping no on 90% of 90% of men they're matching with a very

Brian Atlassmall percentage of men on dating apps these same preferences can be W uh these same pref preferences can be observed generally speaking although most people are meeting online so dating apps social

TTS Readermedia Instagram but even before all of these women are trying to get the best that they can big teddy donated

TTS Reader$99 this question is for cam your ex Cody embarrassing you had to break up because you wanted to start an on Lans how do you even live with yourself

Brian Atlasbrother you should have waited till she came back from I I'll trigger it when she's back I'll trigger it when she's back is it is that actually G know Cody yes she did data Cody yeah awkward so when she gets back

Brian Atlasthat'll be a good well we'll pull it back up um so where she comes the data is out um you have a small subset of men You could argue that that small subset

Brian Atlasof men should you know not be doing that but but oh we got something for you some little we'll pull it up here in a sec I know

Brian Atlasuh but oh [ __ ] can you grab that man I got I got it wait um but if like a larger portion

Camilaof women are participating in in an activity then could you say there's a higher burden on

Camilawomen I think it's on them but like I've said yes women that's why you know it comes down to leadership and so

Camilaobviously you know like you said about Eve we do tend to fall more and this is why we need a leader I'm not saying this is I'm not this isn't to say that

Camilathere's a superior inferior sort of way to say it but this is why we need a man who does have self-control and I would argue that if you have self-control that makes you a great leader Alvin Sam

TTS Readerdonated $99 hookup culture is entirely on the woman women have a greater urgency than men to attain a relationship therefore she needs to make the right choice

Keep (Kiki)therefore it is entirely her fault it is not men's fault because men are judged whether he succeeds I think um sometimes it's hard to make the right choice though as a

Keep (Kiki)female like you said earlier how guys can lie just to get into your pants sure so you'll think you're making the right choice and they end up just doing it to get another body on their roster so that they're looked up to cuz they

Keep (Kiki)you know when in reality what you were hoping for was something different and I think that happens a lot of the time too and also

Brian Atlasoh Cole tell that Asian bee to take her hat off um okay thank you Cole no no no hold on oh actually I'm not

Keep (Kiki)gonna play that thank you Cole appreciate it um also I don't know if you meant it this way but when you said women Gat keep sex yeah cuz guys they want it and they girls can get it but they gatekeep it I don't know if you

Keep (Kiki)mean it this way but it almost sounds like because a woman doesn't want to have sex they're restricting sex but guys want it all the time and we'll just give it and want it all the time but since we don't want to give it we're

Keep (Kiki)gatekeeping it gatekeeping is kind of a term that is usually like not the best thing like oh you have this hair product that is going to make your hair amazing but you're gatekeeping it cuz you don't want anyone

Brian Atlaselse's hair to be amazing well I mean there there's C there's different definitions of being a what gatekeeping is

Brian Atlasbut perhaps that's just a semantic uh difference but basically gatekeeping is essentially you're the one who is

Brian Atlascontrolling who gets to go in who doesn't yeah you're at the gate you keep certain people out you allow access to certain people and I feel like that

Keep (Kiki)makes sense for if it's if it is just a bunch of hungry men that want to have a bunch of sex and add to their rosters if we have to be and choose the right person then we should be gatekeeping if

Lindathat is the case you know sure so this ties into what I forgot earlier is that I think a lot of the issue is that it's this Us Versus Them it reminds me of that Spider-Man emoji where they're all

Lindajust pointing at each other it's just this like divide and there's an argument for both sides because I think about the same like analogies um of

LindaEve being able to be more manipulated and man being the leader and all that but it really unless you just want to go on and on for entertainment purposes which is fine as far as education and healing and change and all of that we

Lindahave to like come together and less pointing the finger and that's just what I was thinking and also earlier you were saying um me uh you were saying that um

Lindaand I think it's just a matter of semantics honestly because of a lot of people like misre like masculine and feminine energies but a man like constantly just leaking his Sexual Energy and like chasing women and again

Lindano judgment blame or shame on either side shame and judgment and blame don't help again it just creates a bigger divide but that's not really integrated masculine energy that's just like

Lindawounded masculine energy and I think that when we go deeper into these layers I like the layers because we can actually just go beyond the surface and that's kind of what I wanted to add on

Brian Atlasfrom earlier word I'm G to re-trigger this and then I'll come back to the whole hookup thing B donated

TTS Reader$99 this question is for Camila this is your ex Cody it's embarrassing that we had to break up because you wanted to start an on live van how do you even live with

Camila (2)yourself um Cody we broke up my sophomore year of high school because you wanted to sleep with guys your sex tape actually got leaked in high school so I don't know what you're talking

Camila (2)about um second of all I live really well I love my nighttime routine on the occasional Wednesday Jack donated

TTS Reader$99 Kate is it pink I hope it's pink I wonder if it's pink can you tell me if it's pink I really want to know if it's pink is it pink BF I hope it's pink this has to be a joke no this can't be

Brian Atlassubscribe to our only fans you'll find out if it's pink facts I've seen it it's pretty pink oh and then we keep keep and uh your friend you guys have to take off that's so that's fine I want to say bye

Brian Atlascan I say bye that was a lot bye bye I love you bye it was so nice to you let's collab all right see you guys um we're gonna maybe move can you two move like

Brian Atlastake their seats yes so you can you sit there and then I'll have you sit where she was sitting yes do I move the money uh just leave the leave the mics leave the

Brian Atlasmics don't don't worry just move my booster seat oh yeah that's fine the girls had to leave so we're

Brian Atlasgoing to uh get them situated um wait so okay the first thing there was Big Daddy I guess your ex was in the chat okay

Brian AtlasCody to be exact and then Jack DH love you jack oh in that seat wait let me see can you be in that in that the cor

Unknownyeah we're going to just readjust this um is this the guy who you're dating H is this the guy who you're dating Jack

Camila (2)no Jack no there why is he asking if it's pink he I assume he's talking about the [ __ ] the [ __ ] okay w we do uh like we know him we do like we film videos

Caitlynwith him he does his own content too yeah I've heard his name are you guys are you guys dating him or what absolutely he a my favorite people on Earth but yeah

Brian Atlasgreat together have it okay um is this like an inside joke or something yeah no what what I guess here we have a we have something here from bordell girl hello again lovely chat question for the

Brian Atlaspanel in chat have you ever dated someone you're total opposite and if so what attracted you to them I need to get up really quick so if you guys want to go around the table on this one go go ahead you can go first um my total opposite

Camila (2)I don't think so I think that's probably the flaw that I have is I go for people that are just like me like just a lot of energy and I feel like I should stop doing that so definitely

Lindanot my mind just goes to like what in what sense opposite um like when I was younger in my early 20s I was dating people who are

Lindaprobably like energetically my opposite I was kind of of operating a bit more in my masculine energy and them and their feminine won't get too deep into that but

Lindaum physically I mean in what sense I guess so I'm not going to go on about that I'll pass it over

Caitlynum yes short answer I usually go for like I said earlier guys who have strengths in the in the areas that I lack and vice versa just because I feel

Caitlynlike it makes it run smoo and it's just by default um looks

Caitlynand occupation I guess and what they like to do no I'd say someone who's who shares common interest would definitely

Caitlynbe somebody that I'm interested in um wa is it did it ask have you ever dated one anyone who's like been the

Camilaopposite of you and what attract what did you find attractive um about that I wouldn't I would say no my first relationship I thought we were the same but it ended up that we were complete

Camilaopposites but I was not attracted to that at all so I wouldn't say that I have ever done that um so I I I always try to stick with people that have the

Karissasame values as me as much as possible yeah for myself um I would say opposite in some ways um maybe opposite in personality to a

Karissacertain extent but um that would really be all because I prioritize my values and my beliefs and that would be those would have to be the

Madisonsame I wouldn't say I've dated anyone that's the opposite of me but the opposite of like what I look for in a person and it didn't really go well so all right there you have it let me get some of these chats we have puffy Vegas

Brian Atlasstarting with the brown-haired girl ending in 778 6.5 776 77.5 that's obviously came through before the other girls left uh we

Brian Atlashave puffy I think I'm a 10 out of 10 girls rape me I have 57 million views on YouTube channel no filters I've interviewed over 1,000 women all

Brian Atlasbeautiful and I never use a filter once PS I'm a 40 I'm 48 with a dad bod girl in 20s date him I guess uh the girl with

Brian Atlasthe tattoos would never a Years be she's Beyond delusional to think that I'm high that I'm high value man like me would be with

Brian Atlasher okay puffy Vegas maybe we can arrange a date I guess um we have Blake Wilson I would say that what each person brings to the table is not surface level example support care encourage

Brian Atlasself-growth and this is our lives each party should display value in the others life equally PS Miss in the front right corner let's go out Ash gorgeous

Brian Atlasunfortunately she left um she had to leave but Blake thank you so much for your Super Chat much appreciated is there a bug in here there's a be uh and then we have J Stefan I will

Brian Atlasdonate my life savings for Caitlyn and Camila to show their toes on camera also Kaitlin please tell me if it's pink is this like what is what is this pink thing what the [ __ ] I don't know I think it's cuz we did a bit where it's like I

Caitlynhave a phone and I go up to random person and I'm like hey um don't talk to the mic and I'll let you see the rest of this picture and it's like a blurred picture of me like on my o or whatever what what's the picture and one time it

Caitlynjust depends whatever the editors want to put on there um and someone was like oh my gosh like as a joke was like oh my

Caitlyngosh it's pink as a joke and now it's just a running thing um yeah yeah here's another one Haram mhm hey guys let me see those

Brian Atlasokay um how I guess they're asking how much for a foot check link Inn IG bio yeah or just ven mom Link in my Instagram no they're asking how much

Brian Atlasthey have to pay me pay you to see my feet that's right this is the reverse the reverse why are they paying you to see my feet that doesn't make sense it makes a lot of sense to me can I have you uh tilt the microphone up towards

Brian Atlasyou so like straight straight up uh can you tilt the microphone a little bit so it's Brian's your pimp now yeah no that's right PP dirt my [ __ ] shoulder off okay we have Camila's is more pink

Brian Atlasthan Caitlyn's no way y are paying for this there's no way you guys probably had this set up so they would do this by the way guys we guys get your chats in now if you want to because we are uh I'm not

Brian Atlasgoing to talk about it but we have to wrap at 10: tonight so we got about 20 20ish minutes 25 minutes left uh so if you want get your chats in now because

Brian Atlasthis is going to be one of our shortest shows in a very very very long time so get them in guys um well I got a question since this is kind of relevant

Unknownlike in or AE huh huh what' you say innie or Audi huh h Huh oh were you asking me yeah well both of you cuz

Caitlyninnie what you going to ask for proof now Kaitlin also any if I'm I mean I'm 411 so I don't know if yall prefer that but unfortunately why is that a sad

Brian Atlasthing rip you know what Archie Bunker you know what will be interesting ask the panel to rate their intelligence from one to 10 here we go is that I don't feel like

TTS Readerhaving oh there it is mar donated biologically men want to spread seed first if you make it easy for any group or status of man then they have no

TTS Readerreason to deny biologically women seek protection social and Financial Security and family I agree both need more value and responsibility

Brian Atlasyes word thank you mayore appreciate it we have another one coming in um intelligence anybody who who hears a 10 an intelligence obviously the whole table

TTS Readerright okay sorry bro they don't Don $100 sorry for miscommunication I wanted to see the host's feet wouldn't be

Brian Atlasopposed to Caitlyn's too bro I'm I'm I'm pricey free I am expensive you want to see my Fe oh are you talking about m

Caitlynno Fe I'll split it with you please show your feet you'll split the money with me if I show my I'll give you I'll give

Caitlynyou 30% 30% crazy percentage please whip out one

Caitlyntoe it's got be Pinky the whole 30% no cuz watch St no not for 30 come on one toe come on you do it if there

Madisonwasn't a million people watching You' do it You' do it I don't think would do it I think you would do I I do have a Wiki feet but not [ __ ] bro some weirdos please describe a wik feet no just some

Brian Atlaslike weirdos can look uploaded my feet to Wiki feet it's so how did they get your feet I got like Instagram photos there's a picture of me surfing there's a picture of me surfing my feet are

Brian Atlasvisible do you get pic no why the how many guys do you know get Pedic a lot of people get pedicures oh my gosh you need to get a pedicure you'll never go back word then you could

Brian Atlasreally you want to scoot over maybe I don't know um hey gang was looking for a few feet and cooch picks myself a off for filming and editing service all right these guys are trolling oh my god

Brian Atlasthere you have it that is cool um okay so we had we had some videos to react to um [ __ ] there let me just double check everything here uh okay we're going to do that we we did all

Brian Atlasthat one sec guys I'm just get making sure we hit most of the points um okay yeah let's let's react to the video

Brian Atlasso you before you pull it up um Nick wait did we get through all the uh chats here yeah I think we did um you guys do Tik Tok [ __ ] Christ we

Brian Atlasactually I think that's how I found you I think I messaged you right and I I on my fre you page or whatever one of your Tik toks came up and it was uh it was interesting it was an interesting one so uh we're gonna we're going to react to your Tik Tok three of them we have three

Unknownof them they're all pretty much the same mine just yours why just mine I like to pick on people when just kidding um yeah she's she's uh in the clear really I'm in the clear nothing she's in the clear

Caitlynoh bet [ __ ] I didn't do a huge Deep dive but in any Cas you found that Instagram picture I don't know how which one the one on the cover I haven't seen that picture in like over a year that was impressive I think it's you don't

Brian Atlashave that many posts on your Instagram I was looking for better ones by the way oh thanks I appreciate that all right um Nick if you can pull up the first

Brian Atlasvideo okay go ahead and press play oh [ __ ] wait which one how tall are you pause it's too loud too loud too loud uh

Unknownlower it lower it lower it oh uh scroll it back start from the beginning Baby K Baby K okay go ahead how tall are you like uh 58 I hope on the edge of that

Unknownfor me please I'm doing this why not why you trying to put me on blast dude just super Qui I'm like 56 all right oh so now you're changing

Camila (2)it you got me let's see here um sir you're you're 55 okay okay we still love our short Kings next one control tab

Camila (2)over all right I play this one contradicting how tall are you 5'8 5'8 yeah are you sure yes I'm 5'8 okay Caitlyn hey W if you can just step on the um edge of that for me that'd be really really nice

Camila (2)you're um you're 5'6 my god oh for real yes oh I thought I was 5'8 you thought how' you think that I don't know somebody told me holy [ __ ] that might be too loud guys is it you're basically 6 foot though you round up okay thank you

Brian Atlasyeah you're welcome next next next lower the volume a little bit I think it's peeking well you can play it how tall

Camila (2)are you 5'8 5'8 okay are you sure about that yeah are you sure about that I'm positive okay can you confirm or deny no

Unknownsir I say I am sir you're 56 I'm not 56 you're 55 I'm not 55 she's probably 5'5

Unknownshe's actually 411 oh God so you're definitely 55 I guess I'm just curious uh

Caitlynum how much do you weigh 115 like 112 I think uh last time I checked like 97

Brian Atlaslike 109 120 102 I have a a scale here so what I think we're going to do we need a confirm if like wait so um I think where

Brian Atlasdo we set this up at I think we honestly uh where do we do it h oh get out of the frame yeah get out what are you doing cam okay holy [ __ ] Expo oh [ __ ] it got

Brian Atlasall scuffed with the exposure um we're all was it this one I feel like was I need to my camera setting [ __ ] up on this um okay I think we're going to do it hold on I'm going to get up I haven't weighed myself in a long time but I like

Madisonweighing myself I feel like it's like like I'm I feel like look fine so it's like okay I feel like I am like 125 so it kind ofs the I I don't really

CaitlynI'm actually curious myself so if we could all right so can you see we getting he's going to add like weight to it be like yep you're 250

Brian Atlaswhat did you say 115 checks out wow wao guys you think exactly she's 118 guys whoa whoa whoa okay what about let's

Madisonhave you do it you wait is that like a bad thing like are you saying whoo bad how tall are you he's he's he's going to say you're like lying about your weight or whatever gosh okay okay okay makes

Brian Atlassense makes sense 4 lbs off it's always up and down

Brian Atlasokay what what about you I think 9798 97 98 oh my hold on stay still stay

Caitlynstill3 no actually he caught my ass he's going to do a lap around the around the all right I'm not going have I'm not going to have everybody do it but uh man you guys are

Brian AtlasShameless I feel like it's really easy to tell when a man's Shameless 5 five you guys are lying about your weight darn what's up there sorry guys well it is a hard surface gentlemen it's a

Brian Atlas[ __ ] I don't know what it is all right there you have it um I just thought that was funny 18 in closed check out that's the equivalent guys that's the equivalent I

Brian Atlaswasn't offended by that oh okay cool that's fine I actually that was I'm what I guess what I am saying though is like a lot of women would be kind of salty God I'm not like a lot of women like I feel like if you did that on Tik Tok and

Madisonyou you asked a woman her weight and you were like oh well you're just yeah they freak out but if you ask canell why you get canceled why do know what I weigh

Brian Atlasright now just stay stay stay stay stay we're we're done with a bit um huh what happened here no like a uh you get canceled like Tik Tok is very

Brian Atlascam if have you ever come everyone's so sensitive now I'm 26 and own a construction business uh camil if you ever come to Pensacola hit me up I'm 26 own the constru boom Pensacola construction bus business so I'm good

Brian Atlaswith my hands there you have it and then I think we're caught up on chats there uh I we have to wrap in about 15 minutes uh final thoughts

Camila (2)anybody I do want to touch on go touch on um the I sent it in the one of the the second one I forgot what

Camila (2)it was the women supporting women's toxic Behavior sure I'm just kid curious toar everyone's standpoint like if I gave you a scenario for example your home girl comes to you her man cheated

Camilaon her she slashes tires what are you saying I would tell her boyfriend or her ex I mean I mean that isn't a behavior

Brian Atlasthat no one should condone even if H oh can I just I should have mentioned this before the show if you can just like lean back because you're

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