Single Mom w/ Neck Tattoo Brings NOTHING To The Table?! | Dating Talk #90

Date: 2023-08-07

Duration: 3h 11m

Guests

Brian Atlas

JJenna Fox (DT90)>

CCamila (DT90)>

CCaitlyn (DT90)>

CCamila 2 (DT90)>

KKarissa (DT90)>

MMadison (DT94)>

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00TTS Reader(audience)

SPEAKER_01Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_02Kira(guest)

SPEAKER_03Camila(guest)

SPEAKER_04Caitlyn(guest)

SPEAKER_05Madison(guest)

SPEAKER_09Karissa(guest)

SPEAKER_10Linda(guest)

SPEAKER_12Keep (Kiki)(guest)

SPEAKER_13Jenna Fox(guest)

SPEAKER_14Camila (2)(guest)

Key Moments

QuoteKarissa announces she is a born-again virgin and has been celibate for ~4 years, waiting for marriage with no intention of backing down.

“I am currently single I have been single for 9 years... I am not sexually active and I do not intend to be and I'm ultimately going to be waiting for my husband”

QuoteKarissa reveals her celibacy was broken once in Australia under social pressure — a "very weak moment in my faith." One-night stand she partially consented to; she takes full responsibility.

“he kept asking... I said no that's for my husband... I had a weak moment my faith was not strong at that point in time”

QuoteJenna Fox reveals she has performed in a 15-man blowbang (her largest group scene) and a 156-girl all-female orgy (participated twice).

“I've blown 15 guys nice all right in one sitting... I've been on a 156 girl orgy before”

QuoteKarissa challenges Brian on body count hypocrisy: men in red pill space with 200+ body counts expecting virgin women is hypocritical. Brian clarifies the distinction between preference and behavioral expectation.

“any man that has like over 50 over 100 over 250... inside the red pill space for you to say that... I just I don't understand it why would you not have that same expectation of yourself”

ControversyViewer TTS calls out Linda as "the single woman who has a non-liveable income and a child" working as a life/dating coach. Linda declines to respond in detail; Brian confirms she has a son.

“the single woman who has a non livean and a child is a life/ dating coach do you have a response... I have a kid do you have a response to that”

QuoteCamila 2's ex "Cody" sends a $99 TTS claiming they broke up because she wanted to start OnlyFans. Camila corrects live on stream: they broke up in sophomore year of high school because Cody wanted to sleep with guys, and his sex tape leaked in high school.

“this question is for Camila this is your ex Cody it's embarrassing that we had to break up because you wanted to start an on live van... Cody we broke up my sophomore year of high school because you wanted to sleep with guys your sex tape actually got leaked in high school”

ControversyLinda makes extended argument that red pill community is hypocritical: shames women for choosing wrong men AND for having high standards simultaneously. Invokes Andrew Tate leaked messages. Brian pushes back and tries to land the plane; audience TTS sides with Brian. Linda warns of wounded masculine energy masking as integrity.

“there are a lot of men in these communities who shame and judge women for choosing the wrong men but then on the flip side they shame and judge women for having too high standards”

Topics Discussed

Introductions & Show Announcements

Brian opens from Santa Barbara, CA. Technical difficulties with stream lag early on. Guests introduce themselves: Keep/Kiki (23, model/OF/acting, Hawaii), Linda (36, mindset coach/MFT student, single mom), Jenna Fox (27, porn actress), Camila (21, OF, in relationship), Caitlyn (OF, talking stage), Karissa (21, nursing student, born-again virgin), Camila 2 (OF, single), Kira (28, accounting manager), Madison (18, SBCC student/bar host/Whatever Podcast).

Relationship Status & Dating History

Brian surveys current relationship status and dating history. Keep: single 3 years, 4yr and 3yr past relationships, paid ex's rent. Linda: single 3 years, coach, single mom. Jenna Fox: single since 2018. Camila: in 2-year relationship. Caitlyn: talking-stage (1 month, no sex yet). Karissa: 9 years single, born-again virgin. Madison: in 11-month relationship. Discussion of situationships, talking stages, and honesty in dating intentions.

OnlyFans & Adult Content Industry

Multiple guests do OnlyFans. Discussion of income levels (six figures mentioned, not all disclose). Content types: Keep does solo and one BG with ex; Caitlyn does solo; Camila 2 does solo, GG, and full BG; Jenna Fox is a professional porn actress (industry body count ~50). Whether exes minded the content. Plans to retire before marriage/kids. Running "is it pink" TikTok bit from Caitlyn's street interview content. Madison notes Wiki Feet entry. Jenna describes largest scenes: 15-man blowbang and 156-girl all-female orgy.

Sexual Timing & How Long to Wait

Panel discusses how long to wait before having sex. Keep: wants to start as friends, wait 1-2 months minimum. Linda: advises clients not to have sex too early; no blanket time frame; encourages at least 2-3 months to commitment. Jenna Fox: whenever the connection feels right. Karissa: until marriage (no oral/anal/penetration before wedding). Caitlyn: when tension is undeniable, ~1-2 months. Madison: no time frame, connection-based. Discussion of soaking (Mormon sex practice), one night stands, and whether waiting changes relationship outcomes.

Masculine/Feminine Energy & Relationship Dynamics

Linda presents framework of masculine/feminine energy polarity in relationships. Advocates for 60-70% feminine energy in herself seeking 60-70% masculine energy partner. Argues initiating contact as a woman tends to attract men in unbalanced feminine energy. Kira asks if shyness equals femininity. Brian questions whether this is practical. Panel discusses who should approach/initiate, with some women having approached men. Discussion of sugar mama dynamic from Keep's past.

What Do You Bring To The Table

Brian asks each guest what they bring to a relationship. Linda objects to the framing as inherently power-imbalanced. Extended debate on whether asking this question signals a power dynamic or is simply practical. Brian argues Linda's avoidance of the question implies she brings nothing. Linda distinguishes between values/emotional bring vs surface metrics. Keep: emotional support, financial independence. Others: loyalty, consistency, physical attributes. Brian notes the irony of women valuing men who "bring things to the table" while objecting to being asked.

Body Count & Sexual History

Round-table body count disclosure. Keep: ~5. Linda: declined. Jenna Fox: 2 personal, ~50 industry. Caitlyn: ~8. Karissa: 1 (technically). Camila 2: 9 men, 3 women. Kira: 0. Madison: 4. Brian: declines. Panel debates whether body count matters to men and women. Brian argues high body count is suboptimal for long-term partnership. Linda argues discernment and healing are more important than number. Karissa argues men should be held to same standard they demand of women.

Hookup Culture, Men vs Women, & Dating App Dynamics

Brian argues a larger proportion of women participate in hookup culture than men because women have easier access to casual sex. Cites dating app data (women matching with small percentage of men). Linda and others push back arguing access does not equal behavior. Discussion of 1% of highly attractive men sleeping with disproportionate number of women. Panel debates whether this constitutes a double standard. Brian distinguishes between preference and expectation regarding body count.

Final Discussion & Closing

Discussion of whether women support other women's toxic behavior. Karissa and Camila 1 advocate holding friends accountable. Madison agrees good friendship includes confrontation when wrong. Linda final thoughts: dating pools get smaller as discernment grows — see this as positive, not scarcity. Karissa final thoughts: men who submit to God become good leaders; waiting culture makes filtering easier. Brian's closing comment: men must carry conversations and relationships. Show wraps due to time.

Red Pill Community, Andrew Tate, & Hypocrisy Debate

Linda critiques red pill community for simultaneously judging women for choosing wrong men AND for having high standards. Notes contradiction between Andrew Tate's messaging and leaked behavior. Brian defends "red pill" as simply meaning accurate view of reality. Linda argues many red pill adherents use it to shame women rather than seek genuine healing. Brian: red pill = truth. Linda: red pill community is often wounded men feeding each other superficial validation. Brian asks Linda for 3 things red pill gets wrong; she cites Rolo Tomassi's social proof argument about men with many women being attractive (contradicted by evolutionary research).

Transcript

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Lindaacting all right welcome my name is Linda I'm an intuitive mindset coach and I'm 36 um I'm also studying to be a marriage and family

Jenna Foxtherapist all right welcome hi my name is Jenna Fox I'm 26 years old and I'm a mattress actress

Jenna Foxare you actually 26 yes cuz you kind of I forget the years every no 26 27 um oh wait oh oh you're 27 27 I forgot okay

Camilathere we go what about you um my name is Camila I'm 21 and I do only fans all right welcome my name is Caitlyn I also do only fans and I'm

Karissaokay my name is Karissa I'm 21 and I'm a nursing student F my name is Kira I am

Madison28 and any oh I'm an accounting manager all right my name is Madison I'm 18 I'm a student studying econ and on

Brian Atlasguys lag we're getting some lag um it's pretty bad okay I'm going to fix that hold tight here just a sec guys

Brian Atlaswhen you say lag is it the FPS is it the frame rate hold on is it the FPS is it the frame

Madisonrate no sounds on guest one testing testing oh she wasn't close to the mic oh sorry I might have been nervous yeah no no no you're good I like

Brian Atlasnoticed I was going to tell you but you like ended already anxious uh barely any lag some buffering Jesus frame rate let's see Good Times W welcome to the

Brian Atlaswhatever podcast there there was always something uh I'm gonna I'm G to try to uh fix it really quick give me one second guys uh what we are going to do and Madison keep

Brian Atlasmaybe keep tabs on it um current relationship status single talking stage situationship actually [ __ ] let's wait until I get back Madison take it away

Madisonokay I didn't finish but I'm a student studying econ and accounting I do the whatever podcast and I'm a host at a

Keep (Kiki)bar um I guess if you didn't hear me I'm keep yeah weo because you weren't close enough to the mic so reintroduce yourself okay hi again I'm keep I'm 23

Keep (Kiki)and I model do only fans and some acting can you wait is it keep keep like the verb oh okay my mom was a hippie so oh

Madisonis that like your full name yeah keep Chambers oh that's cute thanks come on Madison what fix your fix your

Madisonstream should I just do the relationship thing have a conversation hello um hello okay what was your guys sorry there was

Madisonlike one OCC wait you said you stream what do you do on Twitch do you do on Twitch uh games like GTA Halo scary games and you do it with like other people mostly

Jenna Foxmyself but I had a friend coming on tonight when did you start like um doing that uh maybe middle of last year nice and you guys said you were filming

Camila (2)earlier what what did you what do you guys film we film like interviews like with public interviews we'll ask like questions that promote our only fans so

Madisonjust like basic public opinion too like what kind of questions you be

Camila (2)asking like who do you believe has a hard in society men or men or women uh the freakiest thing you've ever done are you sub to girls only fans if

Camila (2)who if yes who would you ever sub to my only fans things like that you guys do that together yeah there's like a group of girls we like separate platforms but

Jenna Foxwe go together team yeah do you fix it it's like I don't want to talk they

Brian Atlassaid all right I've got some real [ __ ] conversationalists here with me tonight okay um so current relationship status single talking stage

Brian Atlassituationship Friends with Benefits relationship married polycule sex cult uh how long have you been single if you're single and your longest

Keep (Kiki)relationship go ahead my longest relationship was 4 years and I've only had long-term relationships I haven't really had many situationships but I've tried and it's

Keep (Kiki)just a hard dating pool out there I live on Hawaii so like there's not many people you just see the same people every time you're on an app you see them in the store if you scrolled past them or whatever so yeah I've been trying but

Keep (Kiki)I'm moving so not trying too hard you're currently single correct yeah how long have you been single um for like 3 years since

Keep (Kiki)2020 3 years okay I'm going to Texas soon so I don't really want to start dating someone in Hawaii if I'm going to be moving aren't you moving to La no I'm moving to Texas oh you're moving to

Keep (Kiki)Texas okay when you do when you moving I'm aiming for fall but I want to experience all of Hawaii that I haven't experienced yet do all the hikes I haven't done do like ofv out there and

Brian Atlasstuff and show people great restaurants and beautiful views what's your longest relationship four years four years okay when did when did you guys break up well you said you were single for three years and your 20 so was this like a high

Lindaschool relationship partially started in high school and then went on so yeah okay what about you I am single um my longest relationship is was about 4 and

Lindaa half years um I've been single really I've been single for about 3 years I did have a really shortterm relationship a few months ago but all of

Lindamy relationships have been pretty long so it's hard to count that one um yeah all right what about you uh

Jenna Foxsingle Pringle longest relationship two two years and that was in

Jenna Fox20 18 how long have you been single since

Camila (2)2018 okay so I think four or five years I believe so yeah all right uh what about you single uh longest relationship

Camila (2)was 2 years and I've been single for like a year now so why did he dump you why did he dump me I think I ended up I ended it I ended

Caitlynthat oh you ended oh okay excuse me I did uh you ended it okay um what about currently single my longest relationship

Caitlynwas about almost 2 years and that was about a year ago almost a year ago so it's been about a year in February okay

Camilayeah um I am in a relationship and it is also my longest relationship of so far

Karissatwo years and going all right got it I am currently single um I have been single for 9 years and my longest

Madisonrelationship was 8 months longest relationship eight months Okay gandit Madison what about you I'm currently not single I am taken uh my

Brian Atlascurrent relationship is my longest relationship it's been 11 months all right got it okay so besides Madison and you over there uh everyone here is

Brian Atlassingle uh so what is that what is being single really mean though cuz I mean come on for some of you who are single there's a guy in the picture no right come

Caitlynon yeah you got a guy in the picture right now and what do you mean by in the picture what do you mean by in the picture yeah I mean yeah it's not a situationship because it's

Caitlynlike we're just like I think it's like pretty understood wait hold on just let her finish we're like just hanging out whatever but it's like I don't know

Caitlynyou're just hanging out yeah how long have you been just hanging out with said individual probably like month so like I don't know if I can take it seriously

Caitlynyet it's not been that long that's why it's like not even made it to the situationship it's not even the situation what is it that like it would you consider it talking stage or I

Camila (2)guess okay I don't like labels is he the only guy you're seeing yes what about you uh yeah no uh no no guys right now don't really feel like I just

TTS Readerdon't want to answer the pH oh Brandon thank you man Brandon mels donated $200 it's your boy champagne papy let's start the donos and get some W's in the

Brian Atlaschat for Brian also can I have a whatever t-shirt hey Brandon thank you man um by the way Brandon is in Santa Barbara so we're going to we were going

Brian Atlasto try to have him come by today but just uh didn't work out so Brandon will right I think he'll be here on the Tuesday show and yes when you come by the studio you can have uh a whatever

Camila (2)t-shirt so uh we'll see you on Tuesday man thank you Brandon for that uh TTS sorry uh go ahead um yeah no I just don't feel like entertaining anyone

Camila (2)right now I just feel like I'm pretty content content yeah there's nobody like no nothing not at all cuz you said that you've been single for like a year about

Camila (2)yeah I mean but has in that year mean you go out with people I mean you go on a date but doesn't mean you're going to do anything they just just kind of like a dinner okay you know just it's not that big of a deal it's just kind of like

Camila (2)yeah I want to socialize today you kind of can pick and choose that's okay all right so

Unknownnothing Z zero nope okay all right what about you no no men or women in my life no

Keep (Kiki)okay nobody I'm finally taking a step for myself cuz I feel like my whole life I've always been like a very relationship oriented person so I had

Keep (Kiki)the four-year relationship and then after a year went by I had another three-year relationship so I'm finally like okay let me settle down and just not try to find myself more so I'm taking myself on trips and going on a

Keep (Kiki)lot of girls trips out the country seeing more cultures and not focusing on guys right now focusing on my work okay um I what

Brian Atlaslag Nick can you pull up the uh regular chat what about you um you said you've been single for nine years can you tell us what what what's

Karissaup um ultimately I'm waiting um I've had two situationships

Karissayou could call them in between uh but as of the past four years um I am not sexually active and I do not intend to be and I'm ultimately going to be

Karissawaiting for my husband so 9 years seems like a long time but um I have an ultimate goal at the end of it so Nick can you get the popup chat yeah and

Madisonthose like two situationships that you had were um they just ended because it wasn't what you were looking for in a husband or was it more casual ultimately

Karissayeah um I'd say none of them were casual I'd say that with the two situationships that I had I

Karissadefinitely was in love with I either man um but ultimately it was not God's plan and uh the first one ended up getting

Karissasick and passed away uh the second one um he was insecure and uh I think we liked each other I loved him him I don't

Karissaknow if he loved me back but overall um it would have not worked out and uh um yeah so that was

Karissauh that's so you're a born again virgin yes correct I am I am a born again virgin but you said um and when did you make this decision

Karissato be a born again virgin um you could say officially four years ago um prior to one incident one

Karissanight um I was not not active like two or 3 years prior to the incident four years ago so it's been it's been a long

Brian Atlastime okay um so you were born again virgin like seven years ago pretty much okay not technically but pretty much

Brian Atlasyeah okay and so you want to wait until marriage yes I do okay and and I'm not backing down this time so you're not backing down no what do you mean you're

Karissanot backing down this time are you talking about the the situation four years ago just a really hot dude um so the one night that I messed up the seven

Karissayears and now it's technically four um that was a very weak moment in my faith and now my faith is much stronger and I

Karissaam ultimately waiting okay so there's a commitment behind it this time that's actually

Brian Atlasreal so but was so it was like a one night stand that one indiscretion yes okay so Cancun or what what was the

Brian Atlassituation it was in Australia okay the Australian gentlemen they're very strapping and charismatic okay so was it an Australian guy I will

Karissasay though I was pressured into it and I did not want to do it um but ultim Ely it was consent so I have full

Karissaresponsibility for that but um yeah I did not want to do it but ultimately it was my fault because I said yes in the

Brian Atlasend I don't know if that's a rabbit hole I really want to go down but you said okay so you you you consented you said yes yes I yes I have but could this be a

Brian Atlasretrospect retrospective thing like you in the moment you said yes but obviously you faltered when it came to your commitment to waiting to being a born

Brian Atlasagain virgin so I'm just trying to can you phrase that in a different way well what are you trying to get at you were pressur you said you were

Karissapressured but you said you also consented so I'm just yes he kept asking like I mean we were always we were obviously getting heated but at the same time um I said said no that's for my

Karissahusband we're not doing anything else um and I had a weak moment um my faith was not strong at that point in time and um and I said yes

Brian Atlasso there's not much more to it than that there it's just okay yeah got it um okay so couple you said

Brian Atlassingle no guy in the picture I'll take your words for it sort of kind of is um I'm trying to think where we

Brian Atlaswere you uh you're like a coach correct mhm okay and uh so you coach women um is that correct yes I coach mostly women I

Lindawould say about 80% of my clients are women 20% men okay um do you have kids by chance you have kids correct I do I have a son you have one son okay um oh yeah in your

Brian AtlasInstagram bios it says a woman putting other women on game what do you mean yeah so [Music]

Lindathere there are a lot of women who aren't aware of the Mind Games that

Lindaa lot of men play and this isn't Like a Man versus women and I'm like all anti-men or anything but because largely my clients come to

Lindame to be put on game um I just go down the rabbit hole of what red flags to avoid what green flags to

Lindalook out to look out for um that's a huge conversation um but essentially that's what I do I would say I

Lindado for my male clients I do somewhat the same um I can coach women really deeply because I am a woman and I do have that experience but I can't

Lindago full-blown with a guy at a certain point I can maybe get him 70% of the way um at a certain point I send him off to

Lindaa male coach who can actually has that lived experience to take him deeper um I specialized in relationship coaching um people who are healing from narcissistic

Lindaabuse uh healing trauma releasing um obsessive overthinking patterns essentially in short what I do is I help people release low vibrational life circumstances

Lindawhich is a huge range of things um to transform their life and sure to put them in a higher frequency so that they can essentially have stronger dis

Brian Atlasdiscernment to attract better whether it's purpose whether it's relationships whether it's so is it General life coaching or kind of more framed from

Lindalike dating related coaching it's everything um I do Rel relationships and regular life is

Lindaso synced um and everything affects everything else so um largely what I go really deeply with is people releasing low habits obsessive

Lindaoverthinking patterns um strengthening their confidence and really ultimately strengthening their discernment which naturally Segways into

Lindarelationships um so it's not just relationships but it's mind set which is okay we we'll come back to a couple of those things here so a few of you have uh so kindly provided me

Brian Atlassome pre-show uh information so I'm just going to ask a couple questions here

Brian Atlaskeep you say You Wish dating was more honest yeah yeah so what about dating or relationships or whatever do you find to

Keep (Kiki)be dishonest is it on the men part the women's part both what what's kind of your stance right there it might be on both I only know women's from my point of view and what friends tell me so I don't really know how honest they are

Keep (Kiki)but I know from my point of view I try to be very honest and I'll end up in not anymore cuz I'm trying to take a break from the apps and going out and meeting people but um when I was trying and

Keep (Kiki)seeking someone that I could be with I'd be on the apps or I'd be meeting people in person and they would act like oh you're the only person I'm talking to and I just want to be with you you and

Keep (Kiki)dropped all my all my hose I don't know if I can say I can say on here but they dropped all my hose for you and everything and then the next minute they wouldn't talk to me for a week and then I would be like okay I'm going to go on

Keep (Kiki)another date and then they'd see I was on a date and they'd get mad like well you ghosted me for a week I didn't think you were really into me and they're like no I am and then they would ghost again and then find out they were hooking up with like other people in the town and

Keep (Kiki)it's just too messy and would rather people just be honest if you just want to hook up with someone just say you want to hook up if you want more than that say you want more than that but was this in Hawaii yeahuh okay uh so

Brian Atlasprimarily dishonesty when it came to intentions yeah yeah in okay so these guys would say I'm only talking to you only got eyes for you but in reality they weren't yeah and then if it was

Keep (Kiki)like okay if you want to date other people I can too and then I would try and then they'd get really mad at me and like how could you how would you date someone else it's like you're dating three other people I just went on one

Brian Atlasdate and and you said that you'd prefer if people were more upfront with their so I think you said something along the lines of they if they just want to hook

Lindaup they should say that and if they want something serious they should say that yeah okay okay that would be ideal but that's not reality I know but it would be so easy if but don't most I feel like

Brian Atlasmost relationships start a bit more casual and then you continue seeing each other in a casual sort of way and then eventually you end up you figure out oh we both kind of like each other then you

Keep (Kiki)end up in a relationship I guess but all my relationships that started that way didn't really end well so for the next one I want to start as friends and then make them wait and wait and then see if they actually really want me and see if

Keep (Kiki)we really get along before I have casual relations with them wait so start as friends yeah yeah or even start with like a crush but I'm still not going to jump into any romantic feelings right

Brian Atlasaway I think people I think people naturally just like to play games with people minut and women that's true it's like a cat and mouse game okay so you when you say wait do you mean wait to

Madisonhave sex kiss have sex okay I could cuddle but cuddle but wait to do okay yeah um it could work it could work I also feel like it's just like harder to

Madisonjust be friends with people especially if you're finding them off of dating apps because the intention is not to just be friends you know oh I'm not just talking about dating app I'm talking about like meeting people in person friends of friends or I don't know I did

Keep (Kiki)fire dancing so I'd meet some fire dancers sometimes that never really liked him enough to even considered casual before dating or anything you know okay so I mean there's a couple things there

Brian Atlasso you said in your past relationships though that you didn't you typically wouldn't wait like you'd pretty early on um get intimate kiss have sex whatever it may be yeah maybe within like I still would make him wa wait like

Keep (Kiki)a week or so but I feel like that might not have been long enough I mean I did date them for a long time but the attachment I think happened a little bit too quickly than it should have and I ended up on your end or on the guy's end

Keep (Kiki)on both ends I think I ended up breaking up with the relationships I was in because I eventually was just over it and one relationship I was um being like

Keep (Kiki)the mother to someone basically like I paid for their paid for their um that sounds great rent all their food clothes but I not your mom like get your own job like so you were you were a sugar mama

Keep (Kiki)kind of I didn't want to and he would make jokes about it be at at dinner with friends you'd be like I love having a sugar mama when I'd have to pay for his meal cuz he was broke I was like that's not funny it's not a a joke I'm just helping you out but you do only fans

Brian Atlasthough right I do how much oh a couple of you do kind of do you guys o traditional content um you you can make some pretty good money doing that

Brian Atlasright and you how old how old was the guy that at the time when you were dating him he was the same age as me okay yeah how well were you out earning

Keep (Kiki)him well yeah well yeah but that's okay I mean I can out earn someone but I don't want to pay for your entire life you know like he had a job and then he quit his job to party and he would go

Keep (Kiki)out and drink with his friends while okay it was just kind of gross I didn't how long were you dating him for that one was 2 years I had the four year and then I had one year and then two years

Keep (Kiki)so how long were you paying the rent and everything for we moved in he moved into my place cuz he got kicked out cuz he was living at a frat house and they threw a party and they got in trouble and I was like fine you can come live

Keep (Kiki)with me so I let him live with me for free when I was in this one condo which was 5,000 a month for a one bedroom one bath cuz Hawaii is ridiculous and so I let him live there

Keep (Kiki)with me for free at first and then we went to go rent another place rented a house together and he said he was going to pay for some of the rent or at least like maybe cook some food or do

Brian Atlassomething and didn't do anything just played video games made a mess didn't it was sounds like a legend sounds like a [ __ ] Legend okay so um out of

Brian Atlascuriosity for those of you who do o uh how much do you guys make I think it varies let's say if you had that monthly average if you have to

Brian Atlasaverage it over a year per month or per year you make six figures a year yeah seven figures a year no not seven figures a year mid M mid six I don't

Brian Atlasknow if I should say it's fine IRS isn't watching or anything well they know how much I make yeah they know you pay your taxes um what's the most you made in one month

Brian Atlassix figures uh have you had the six figure month no but close close Okay up to it all right uh what about you how much you making on o I'm not going to discuss top zero

Brian Atlas001 whatever the [ __ ] it is um what about you yeah I'm not not disclosing that I'm legally not allowed to disclose that you're legally not allowed I'm

Brian Atlaslegally bound so I give you permission to well okay um that's fine but in any case uh I mean it sounds like you're

Keep (Kiki)probably out out earning this guy yeah it's okay I mean I don't mind doing that in

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Brian Atlasgoing to drop a Bitcoin next thank you man appreciate it um damn that's thank you so much Brandon for your patronage that does trigger the champagne so we'll do the champagne um here if you can

Brian Atlasbring it over to me here um very nice does thatan we can drink some what's that does that mean we can drink some champagne yes oh did you un you

Brian Atlasunscrewed it you got to pop it I took to okay I'm trying to remember how nervous can I do it I I know how to do take an eye out I [ __ ] watched a YouTube video on

Keep (Kiki)how to do it don't give me a black eye you like it

Brian Atlasjust wrecks the screen scary dude what are you doing Nick move what the [ __ ] are you [ __ ] why would you stand directly in the line Jesus Christ my life okay you

Brian Atlashave to know how it feels once I guess uh Brandon mels thank you for the uh champagne bottle pop here um I don't know we'll we'll let the the people

Brian Atlasserve as they'd like if you guys want any oh [ __ ] I poured it pretty shittily sh sh sh [ __ ] I'm gonna take that word all right poor if you're above the age of 21 feel free to uh no I think

Brian AtlasI'm thank you Brandon appreciate it oh did I did I drop the r word okay [ __ ] Nick you were standing right there bro I was trying to open the

Karissashiters I watched a YouTube instructional on how to open it so I got to figured out okay so thanks question hold it the right way what's your question um so while you were dating this man did

Keep (Kiki)you find that it was hard for you to respect him at first I respected him but then it became like turned into resentment and more yeah I started to not respect him as much yeah and it felt

Keep (Kiki)like I was like a caregiver or a mother and I'm not old enough to be a caregiver or mother I should be doing that on my own taking care of myself before I'm taking care of someone else yet so at first it was like no I understand like he was still in college but then he

Keep (Kiki)dropped out of college he had a job but then he quit his job so at first I was like you're still trying so it's okay I'll help you out like help you meet ends and whatever you need but then it just became like he wasn't trying

Karissaanymore and was just backpacking off of whatever he could get from me and what I would provide so comfortable do you think that with you having you know kind of the upper hand on a lot of things

Karissathat it changed like maybe the attraction or like probably d DCS of your relationship yeah he got way clingier more dominant in it yeah he got

Keep (Kiki)way clingier than he was beforehand um cuz I think he saw me kind of drifting away and yeah not feeling fulfilled as much and so he got extra clingy and I was more distant and not really sure if

Keep (Kiki)I was feeling the same anymore so it just kind of like kept pushing and pushing away till it was like I no longer have love for you at least like I right you're not the same person that I

Brian Atlaswas dating you know so okay to go back you said that in your previous situations you didn't really wait maybe you'd wait like a week or something but now you you want to wait longer periods

Keep (Kiki)of time when you say like wait longer what do you mean like 3 months 6 months what do we start out as friends whatever um I mean if it starts off like with the attraction and the idea of I could date

Keep (Kiki)this person then I want to go on multiple dates maybe after a month or so month or two but that depends on how much time you spend together like if you're only hanging out like once a week then that time will be longer but if

Brian Atlaswe're hanging out like every single day it's going to feel like a lot longer you get to know someone way quicker if you're spending every moment with them okay what if I told you that

Brian Atlasguys would feel uh I don't know if disrespected is the right word but a lot of guys would take

Brian Atlasissue with like for example say two weeks ago you hooked up with a guy the first night you met him and then you meet the guy and you're like oh I want to have a relationship

Brian Atlaswith this guy and then you're like I'm going to make him wait three months but I a lot of guys are going to like see that if they know that you've had a different standard beforehand they're going to be like they're going to have

Keep (Kiki)an issue with it my standard was not that far off I think I mean also not just like sleep right away I also mean like I moved in with the people I was with like a month into dating two months into dating my new rule is like let me

Keep (Kiki)date you for like a year before we get a place together because sure it's just too much too soon I wouldn't just say just sleeping with someone also I wouldn't be in that situation because I do not have one night stands and haven't

Brian Atlashad one night stand since maybe high school so I don't think that situation would ever come up anyway but okay well let's go around the table on this um how long do you guys think you should wait

Keep (Kiki)before having sex with somebody new we'll just start with you if you want to reiterate um I'm down to wait like 3 weeks 3 four depending on how often

Lindawe're hanging out and how much I'm Into You okay I don't like a a blanket exact time frame or date I really think it's

Lindaabout feeling out the person but um I do not encourage any of my clients to have sex too early or if they're not ready or they're not feeling comfortable

Lindaum as far as like actually getting into a relationship um one thing I do know as far as like time frames that seem to work out uh pretty close in line across

Lindathe board is like if he's not committed into a relationship within like 2 3 months maximum he's just not going to there are always exceptions to the rule but never assume that you're one so as

Lindafar as like having sex I can't put a time frame on it it's really how often are you communicating with them is this man consistent is he

Lindaclearly initiating is he clearly pursuing um just properly vetting him um is the best advice that I could give it's really hard to just give a blanket

Lindastatement without knowing the person knowing how much they're talking and knowing what that woman specifically is really dealing with okay um kind of like

Jenna Foxshe said I don't put a time frame on it if I'm really into you and I want to have sex we're going to have sex basically and if you [ __ ] me and then leave and you weren't ready for a relationship that's fine too you weren't

Camila (2)ready for it so I'm not going to pressure you into anything yeah I kind of feel that I feel like it's just about the connection I don't think you necessarily have to put like a time stamp on it because even if it's like 3 months down the line you're not feeling it you're just not feeling

Caitlynit so it's just kind of whenever the sexual tension and things like that so sure that's what I was going to say was it depends on the tension I like to wait until the tension really really builds

Caitlynthat could be a month that can be two months that can be 3 months whenever that tension is is you can't ignore it then that's what do you guys mean by tension like wait till you can't wait anymore where

Keep (Kiki)you're like begging you're like oh my gosh it's been too long just kiss me take me right now like sometimes it's just like yeah like you get teased with cuddles and whatever and nice dates and flowers or whatever for so long till

Karissayou're like please so like Temptation type thing yeah basically sure I guess want say it like that so with the uh current guy that you're seeing now how

Brian Atlaslong did you wait with him we haven't had sex yet oh you guys haven't had sex it's been about a month yeah we're going on a month a month how how many times have you hung out though pretty often cuz it can vary like you know you could

Brian Atlasbe seeing someone for a month and hang out two times or you could be seeing someone for two weeks and hung out like three or four times a week you know yeah I'd say three four times a week three or four times a week mhm and has he just

Caitlynnot gone for it or you're kind of I kind of yeah I I make it kind of hard so it's like um it's if he really does Nick can you boost the audio a

Caitlynlittle bit um if he really does pursue that then then I'm like okay you know so he wants it but you said no like you guys are just waiting yeah you're waiting yeah I'm waiting well we're both

Keep (Kiki)waiting till like I know that he's sure and then I know that I'm sure as well that makes it sounds like he's respecting you too and like your decision which is really beautiful and not always that common you know some guys might be like I'm not going to get

Brian Atlasit then buy but if they can actually wait and respect like if you want to wait that's just kind of show character is that disrespectful for a guy to say well if you don't want to have sex with me then we're on a different timeline

Brian Atlasgoodbye if that's if that's not what they want because earlier well earlier you said well you wish that guys could be upfront about what they want isn't that a guy being upfront about what yeah yeah but if it's like come to a time and he's like okay it's been too long and

Caitlynshe said well I told you already I wanted to wait and if he's already had it then that's still him if he it and I've had don't be pushy tell me like I'm like I'm just a very touchy person I'm a

Caitlynsexually active person and I'm like okay well then you're just not a person for me if that makes sense okay mhm so is it you've been seeing him a

Brian Atlasmonth mhm almost a month okay uh what about you um till marriage you're waiting till marriage yeah are you uh have you had anything before or no okay so you're you and your

Karissaboyfriend you're waiting till marriage correct okay got it what about you um I'm waiting till marriage as well so I think that the best thing to do is to wait till marriage I think that when

Karissawhen you have it too soon you kind of risk the relationship I think there's you know like a certain certain amount of respect you know that comes with having to wait um I think that as a

Karissawoman one thing for me if if I can know that he he is willing to wait for me and not just wait for me but wait till our wedding night then I know that he is in

Karissafor the long haul and I know how how he feels about me um so I mean it's not even just you know like about my faith

Karissait's ultimately about if if I want to give this relationship the absolute best chance that I can then I think that we have to establish some kind of

Karissafoundation and I think that um ultimately I think that waiting to marriage is what people should do it's obviously not what I actually did um but

Camila (2)of course there's always you know there's always regrets and um so yeah I have a question that's my stance on it are do you expect the man

Camila (2)to be to have the same mentality like to wait for marriage as well yes I do okay and I will not pursue anyone who so will you pursue someone that has that has had

Camila (2)sex before yes okay so they don't have to be a virgin yeah M Okay no Okay yeah and how long are you waiting to like like if there was a time frame like

Karissayou're going to be engaged for a year you want to date for for three years like what does that look like I think that's a good question um to be honest I'm not entirely sure um It ultimately kind of just depends

Karissaon I think the person um I don't know if I have met him yet uh but when I meet him I know that I'll know because of how

Karissayou know how he respects me and how um how ultimately you know his faith comes first and if his faith comes first as well if he is

Karissaultimately submitted to God then I'm able to submit to him and we're able to wait for each other go ahead question oh go ahead so do you think if he wants to have sex with you it's kind of like disrespectful would you like would you

Karissatake that the wrong way no no I mean I would want himor you know I would want him to want to have sex with me but I would want him to wait I would want him to have the self you

Karissaknow control and you know the willpower to be able to hold off because I think there's a certain amount of respect there's a certain amount of you know like value in something that you have to

Karissawait for it you know it's like a pearl you know it takes it takes a long time for that Pearl you know to become something and it's inside of a clam and it's it's not until you open it sorry no

Camila (2)you're good so is it is it like a very Priceless thing is it penetration that you would consider sex or is oral sex still on the table I always wonder that

Camila (2)that's a very good question like like would you you know like go down on him before you married him or let him go down I've thought about you thought no no I have thought about that question in

Karissamy mind would or would I not allow that and at one point I might have and at this point I do not think I would I have

Jenna Foxa twofer did you in fact no I would not okay oh sorry did you come to this conclusion like did you find God after

Jenna Foxthe situation happened in with the Australian guy or did you already have this in like is it your religion or did you just find God and decide this is the path you want to go down very good

Karissaquestion um so I have always been a Christian um it's you know there's been certain points in my in my life where my

Karissafaith has very much slacked um and then there's been times when it's picked up but overall God has always been constant in my life and he is the number one thing

Karissathere's nothing else that I would ever do that I think like I at this point in my life I'm not going to choose just any

Karissaman I can't um because I know exactly what it is who I want um and whether or not I find him is not really up to me

Madisonit's ultimately up to to God and um can you repeat your question I just want to make sure I'm like targeting you can move on I an additional like question though like

Madisonabout like the like would you consider oral sex like also saving yourself from Marriage something but like you said you're saving yourself from Marriage too right like what would the definition of

Keep (Kiki)that be like just nothing sexual at all about soaking Mormons can do that right is that the thing I don't even know what that is it's a thing but like oh you used to be no but I just would do it for fun I'd

Keep (Kiki)have an ex and I'd be like can you just put it in we can fall asleep like that fun like it didn't always end up working but like maybe twice it was just

Keep (Kiki)what position peaceful cudd cudding no just like spoting cuddling now could we just fall asleep with it in you got to try it really it's like super intimate

Keep (Kiki)no it's start hard and then it slowly gets but imagine it just like falls out sorry it's really intimate and kind of cute but it honestly doesn't always last

Madisonlike that cute spooning with a dick in cute like okay good night but then it doesn't always end up as just soaking but feel like it's like Keo kind of like trying to is like putting it in and

Madisonletting it sit there while someone else is like shaking the bed to like do the ACT I feel like that's a little bit different it's different I don't know about that it's different and then we would just use soaking as a term for

Madisonwhen we wanted to do it be like should we soak or joking is [ __ ] though I think it's still having sex count it's still having sex count loopholes on loopholes it's

Brian Atlaskind of silly I don't know that it let them have it they need a win let them have that win definitely counts um did you had a question for M yeah well I already asked her I just wanted to know

Camilawhat it meant to how it feels um yeah it's just anything that that involves like lust and so I would I would include anything that's like sexually immoral and so that would

Brian Atlasinclude like oral sex anal sex like all of that oh God damn back door all right there you have it folks so just going back to the whole like how long should you wait thing um who here has had a one

Brian Atlasnight stand or excuse me let me let me clarify because one night stand means something kind of very specific have you ever slept with someone maybe the first time ever

Brian Atlasmeeting them show up hands bro you guys are full of [ __ ] come on I mean on set well yeah but I mean that like more like uh with a

Keep (Kiki)civilian let's say absolutely not first first time absolutely not I'm too scared of I get tested yeah too scared STDs or they could be a serial killer they could be I know as a woman it's kind of scary

Brian AtlasI don't want to take None Of You' been like at a party or a club and you met out my friends won't let me but no not I'm always with my girlfriends when they would stop the cap I'm calling cap on

Brian Atlasall of you but okay all right fair enough um the other thing keep that you had I wish I could just meet someone in the park or coffee shop like a fairy tale but I know real life isn't like

Keep (Kiki)that yeah don't we all just the idea of like sitting there like studying or like on a video or doing something on your phone drinking a coffee and someone

Keep (Kiki)comes by and just like starts up some banter like that's just like the classic movie Trope that of course like a hmark movie you know that is ideal but I know it's not real

Brian Atlasbut show of hands who here would prefer to meet someone organically like in person instead of like a dating app or social media Instagram you know the meet cute or whatever the [ __ ] it's called

Caitlynthey come to you up up to you at Trader Joe or you know at the park or the beach Trader Joe's I love Trader Joe's Trad is

Brian Atlasthat where you met your C Guy where did I no oh okay all right um well just a okay I'm going to come back to that really quick I do want to ask because I

Brian Atlasforgot to me ask this earlier those of you who do of you uu youu uh what kind what you don't have to be specific but

Keep (Kiki)do you do solo content GG BG so girl girl boy girl I do solo content and I've

Keep (Kiki)done a video with an ex before I just one okay and if I do ones with girls it's not like girl girl content it's more like jump around with their boobies

Brian Atlasor something like sure not like hardcore intense stuff right but you have done one or some BG content within next yeah

Camila (2)I've done a couple about um I'm full on full lot okay all right yeah SOLO girl girl I haven't done boy girl but girl

Brian Atlasgirl for sure um solo completely solo any BG no BG no okay coming back to you so you uh you were given quite a a head

Brian Atlasnod there uh so what are we talking about well I come from from the porn world so but I mean were you doing one-on-one scenes with men were you doing group like or typ stuff everybody

Jenna Foxwhat's what's the biggest group scene you've done I've blown 15 guys nice all right in one sitting it was really that's crazy is that is that what they

Brian Atlascall aake yes blowbang [ __ ] yeah okay all right so 15 is the most yes okay DP 15

Jenna Foxis the most guys but I've done 16 in an orgy as far as like men and women okay DP no oh okay it's only use one

Keep (Kiki)hole huh only use two holes actually mouth and puss good to know um I've been on a 156 girl orgy before I forgot I did all girls all girls a bunch of girls

Brian Atlasvery fun we've done it twice um the first time was only a few was 15 okay um and so just to bring it back to your thing you and maybe show of hens also from the girls you said that I wish I could just meet someone in the park or

Brian Atlascoffee shop like a fairy tale but I know real life isn't like that um show of hands who agrees with that I think most of you said wait what was the question would you prefer to meet someone

Brian Atlasorganically kind of more like meet cute meet in a park coffee shop whatever yeah okay okay well for you guys specifically

Jenna Foxdon't you think that the fairy tale thing would be for a guy to not meet a girl who's done work no this isn't like Cinderella or anything it's real life like at least if you're honest about it

Jenna Foxand they have a problem with it then that's fine too they have a problem with it but if they don't what kind of man do you think would want that I'm just curious

Jenna Foxum I haven't dated a man since freshman year in high school and countless of them in my DMs asking to take me out they know what I do but

Karissado you think that they would want to marry someone like that I want to marry anybody I don't want to marry anybody okay yeah I don't even want

Keep (Kiki)children if that was like the next part of that I've never met a single person who didn't didn't like who cared I guess I've never met a single man who's cared

Keep (Kiki)about it none of my exes cared the people that I've tried dating before or gone on dates before none of them cared they all supported it they had no issues with it whatsoever they said if it empowers you and if you're making money

Keep (Kiki)and you're supporting your family which I do with my money um I have very struggling parents so I support my parents with my money very upfront about can I ask you a question very upfront too has a guy ever lied to you to get

Brian Atlaslaid or do you think men have ever lied to you to get laid in what way cuz I don't let just anyone have I mean I'm a guy and I know men frequently will lie

Keep (Kiki)to get laid so um they'll they'll gas you up no babe it doesn't matter no I really strongly don't think so so I've honestly never had those questions

Keep (Kiki)either I've never questioned it yeah once because if I did and I could tell that they weren't being honest I feel like I have a pretty good radar and I just wouldn't let them I wouldn't sure

Brian Atlasokay before I continue on with that thread for a little bit um why can't you know you often I mean you said that you'd like to meet someone in a park or coffee shop what is

Keep (Kiki)stopping you from going up to a guy um um I'm shy I guess okay and I also I'm like I'm like submissive and shy so sure I would if I could and sometimes I'll

Keep (Kiki)like have a couple drinks or like I'll have a cocktail and I'll be like go up to someone say they're cute get their number talk on Instagram for a little bit and then I won't really follow through because I don't know things come up or whatever but I'm more shy that's

Keep (Kiki)the only reason so if I have someone that can come up and talk to me and start some banter and chat with me and I enjoy it and they get my number then and even better because then in the future

Brian Atlasif I'm too shy to make a move or whatever then they can take the reins I guess okay it's just me anybody else here would you maybe you want someone to

Brian Atlasapproach you in the Trader Joe's Park coffee shop would you go up have you gone up to a guy yes you're come on come on it's not that hard these days no it's

Caitlynreally not it's it's as simple as just it's simply just you're really attractive and that's it like it doesn't have to be like a lot of guys will specifically guys will come up and be like you're really attractive like can I

Caitlynget your number it doesn't have to be like that it has to be I have more respect for a guy if he's just like I just want to let you know you're really pretty I'm like okay thank you and they walk away that says so much more yeah

Brian Atlasthan a guy being like let me get your snap like that's so ugly cuz guys can be creep at least that's my name like come on if they talk wait hold on so you want to meet a guy in public organically but

Brian Atlasyou also want him to just compliment you and walk away and never talk to you again that leads to something oh I see what you're saying have you ever been in the major city you never see like yeah

Jenna Foxit happens and it also doesn't happen it could lead to like in LA and I approach a girl somewhere like I'm never seeing her again unless I get her contact info yeah I would say that's so disappointing

Keep (Kiki)when like a really attractive guy where you even know if they're cool or not comes over and they compliment you and then you don't hear from them and it's like wait didn't get your information I'll never see that person again it's kind of a bummer it feels good you're

Camila (2)like oh I just got to compliment but then you like look back and you're like what if they were really cool and we could have hit it off or that's true I mean there are also situations where like the only time I've really hit on a

Camila (2)guy is if like he's my waiter and I just leave my number or like it doesn't need to be super in your face like it can just be like hey like I thought you were really good-looking MH like here's my

Brian Atlasnumber text me sure yeah simple as that it doesn't need to be some women do it but it's pretty rare like coup women are more confident

Lindanow that I've definitely done it a couple times okay so I don't do it and I I don't advise that people do it if they if you're looking for so it can go deep

Lindafor me personally and a lot of the women that I coach like we all have masculine and feminine energy within us um but me personally like I'm more of a core feminine energy especially in

Lindarelationship so essentially masculine energy is more of the initiator and at most I would like look in a guy's Direction and

Lindasmile um and if he doesn't initiate and come Converse then that's okay then it's nothing's going to come of it but I personally don't initiate it's not that