HEATED Debate! 3 Girls KICKED OFF (Hat Trick) | Dating Talk #77

Date: 2023-05-24

Duration: 5h 33m

Guests

Brian Atlas

VVictoria (DT77)>

JJessica (DT77)>

SShania (DT77)>

MMadison (DT77)>

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_01Jake/Shania (mixed)(guest)

SPEAKER_02Jessica(guest)

SPEAKER_03Madison(host)

SPEAKER_04Liv Margray(guest)

SPEAKER_06Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_08Jamie(guest)

SPEAKER_10Victoria (Vicky)(guest)

SPEAKER_11Jules(guest)

SPEAKER_12Shania(guest)

Key Moments

OtherShania reveals her father is Robin Crosby, guitarist of Ratt (80s hair metal band). Brian shows photos on screen.

“Robin Crosby okay you can just Google it okay all right”

QuoteLiv Margray admits to cheating on her first boyfriend (5-year relationship) when her boyfriend discovered texts on her iPad.

“he hacked my iPad and literally like broke my iPad”

ControversyVicky refuses to accept Brian's redirect away from transgender debate, insisting on continuing the discussion. Brian tells her to leave.

“you can either accept that or you can leave your choice”

OtherTriple kickoff (hat trick): Vicky asked to leave after refusing to drop transgender topic; Jules exits in solidarity; Madison briefly exits. Brian calls it a hat trick.

“okay this whole Squad leaving or what we got a whole Squad trick then I'm sorry”

OtherJules leaves show in solidarity with Vicky after Vicky is asked to leave.

“see ya I'm gonna get up too but thank you for having me”

QuoteBrian discloses 12 guests flaked on show day and vents about ongoing podcast stress, death threats, and hit pieces.

“we had 12 flakes today that's a [__] record”

ControversyBrian disavows statement made by male guest on previous show (Destiny stream) about enduring abusive relationships; clarifies his silence was not a cosign.

“let me emphatically say now that I disavowed the stance that was taken”

Topics Discussed

Guest introductions & announcements

Guests introduce themselves: name, age, occupation. Show announcements and tech check.

Relationship statuses & dating history

Guests share current relationship status and longest relationships. Liv discusses 5-year relationship that ended after cheating.

Red/green flags by job and degree

Discussion of red and green flag jobs/degrees for dating. Brian lists flight attendants, HR, nurses, OnlyFans as red flags. STEM as green flag.

Who should pay on the first date

Debate over whether men, women, or whoever asks should pay on first dates.

Body positivity and gendered insults

Discussion of 'small dick energy' phrase, body positivity double standards.

Situationships and modern dating apps

Dating apps, disposability culture, situationships, and fear of commitment.

Feminism: definitions and perspectives

Debate on feminism's meaning across the panel. Jamie vs Jules vs Vicky. Feminism's impact on family structure and women's roles.

Stay-at-home mothers and career women

Discussion of women in the workforce vs. stay-at-home roles. Jamie argues feminism pressures women into unfulfilling careers.

Transgender debate and triple kickoff

Heated debate on transgender ideology. Jamie (anti) vs Vicky (pro). Vicky refuses to accept Brian's redirect; kicked off. Jules leaves in solidarity. Third guest also exits. Brian calls it a 'hat trick'.

After-show: post-kickoff debrief

After-show with Madison and Shania. Recap of kicked-off guests. Brian discusses 12 flakes, ongoing podcast drama, stress. Discussion of show logistics and future guests.

Transcript

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Brian Atlastalking about why the double standard is Justified so in a society where hookup culture is the norm where people have are sleeping with multiple people where people are just hooking up

Brian Atlasand if we're going to have a conversation of well it's unfair for men to be uh praised for sleeping with a lot of women whereas women are shamed for

Brian Atlassleeping with a lot of men well first off the world is unfair Society is unfair there's plenty of double standards that benefit women that don't benefit men so this is one of the very

Brian Atlasfew double standards that benefits men when it comes to uh intersexual intersexual Dynamics um so yeah but I don't think that also like men who are kind of that like oh I'm

Jamiesleeping around then they can't expect the woman that they marry and I think a lot of men want to want a woman that hasn't been sleeping around and I think that's like a common thing that men want but then men shouldn't be partaking in

Brian Atlasthat culture yeah as well exactly so you're are you talking about a guy who has for example a high body count yeah he he should not desire in a partner a

Jamiewoman with a low body count because it would be hypocritical so to speak yeah and I I mean there are situations where that probably folds out but I think in general women are The Gatekeepers of sex so the reason why men are allowed to get

Jamiethese high body counts for the most part is because women are giving into that culture so as women we can pull back and be like no we're not going to have this sleep around feminism culture that's so destructive to us and is like honestly

Jamiedisrespectful to us and is like not empowering to us and said we should be empowered and and come back and you know fight for a better culture with men yeah just cheapens us quite honestly it's sad yeah well I mean also when it comes to

Brian Atlasthe double standard two very few men a small percentage of men can have high body counts whereas almost any single

Brian Atlaswoman could be promiscuous very few men can be truly promiscuous so I mean there's another double standard there women women have the

Brian Atlascapability of being more women have the option of being promiscuous than do men you look at an average guy he can't be promiscuous can't pull every night any girl can be promiscuous I mean with

Liv Margraydating apps nowadays there's somebody out there that's gonna no but not with what he just said if the women are only swiping on 10 of the dating pool then I think it's gonna be pretty hard you might I think there's always somebody or

Liv Margraya woman that may say yes to them or they could even pay for it or like you know what I mean but yeah and they're gonna try to get it most most average men they're not going on

Jamiedates like they're not easily able to secure dates they're not easily able to secure easy but they still can like I don't think they're like not at all a lot of guys a lot of women that want to be in

Julesrelationships and maybe they don't have the confidence or they're maybe going for women that are not in their league and also I think the this idea of like how like shaming women like well the

Julesworld is unfair so we should just accept like some men are going to be shame for things and women are going to be shamed for things I think we should also ask like where has shaming women for sex for example got in us because it's existed for a long time and it's also

Julescontributed to getting us to where we are and it's contributed to this you know like you said how this new Alpha Male culture is this Rebellion against feminism well what is feminism the Rebellion against and why is there that

Jamieanger and why was there that desire you know and I think it's important to ask that question too well I feel like there was real civil rights measures that needed to be achieved in the early 1900s but I think it's been pushed too far and

JamieI think it was a movement that spiraled and picked up very bad values along the way that they've peddled to women as I've explained earlier in the podcast that have been very detrimental

Jamieto women and you know I also wanted to go off of like if you're a guy and you or a girl and you like having sex there's something to be said about getting in a relationship where you're committed to each other and you love each other you'll have way more sex than sleeping around

Victoria (Vicky)and better yeah obviously yeah I don't know I don't know why people don't know that I think just pain you know like the sexual Revolution promotes like promiscuity

Victoria (Vicky)promiscuity promotes heartbreak because people get sensitive when you share your body with someone and then you know it just becomes a habit and it's all over a TV it's all over Mark media it's like oh how many [ __ ] did you get with bro

Jamielike I think feminism has contributed to have toxic and horrible Our dating culture is and it's a real problem yes absolutely you think hold on just a

TTS/Miscsecond Mike Davis donated two hundred dollars thank you man happiness says the little life selling her soul for a fever would rather be stuck in a septic tank

TTS/Miscthan on a date with blondie plus mute Jewels her voice is more annoying than a mosquito buzzing in a winner trying to sleep ouch Mike

Victoria (Vicky)that one that one's Gonna Leave a bruise yes I really appreciate um please please um please keep um saying whatever you want just send them away

Liv Margraythank you Mike Davis appreciate it spread love man thank you Mike Davis we love you brother Mike we love you Mike remember only hurt people hurt people so oh you're clearly hurt you know if you

Brian Atlasneed some advice or anything you can always DM me and like I got your back okay Mike Davis our DMS are open by the way he owns like 400 Burger King restaurants on the East Coast like if he flew you out would you be down for a

Jessicadate a Burger King date a Burger King date he'll get you whatever you want I'll just fly out my great-grandparents used to do that they used to roller skate down to the local Burger King and get a Whopper

Brian Atlasup here all right we have feelings feeling dangerous thank you man my last chat for the tonight thank you Brian and the panel just want to say in regards to my chat I'm fine with many answers to how much I want to provide to the home

Brian Atlasanything from zero to 50 is acceptable but not over thank you man um what was your last chat uh it was uh

Brian Atlasuh I oh you're saying I pay for the first few days okay I see I see it oh okay I want to provide to the home anything from zero to 50s except for the first date you were saying anything from

Brian Atlas0 to 50 is acceptable but you would not go over fifty dollars for a first date got it thank you man appreciate it okay and then I think we're good on the soup chats over here um all right cool

Brian Atlasum I think we were talking a little bit about feminism so you guys right um what if I told you that feminism is not actually about equality um agree disagree

Jessicait's about awareness awareness wait did Madison dip I would like I think she would take a bathroom maybe but I would like to hear what you think feminism is or what you're yeah because I I I took

Jessicamy definition straight from the dictionary at least from what I remember yeah it could have changed now they like to change definitions now yeah

Brian Atlasyeah I mean I think uh I mean the most charitable definition that I could give feminism is it's not again this is the most charitable definition I give it

Brian Atlasit's not an equality movement it's a woman's advocacy movement and there's nothing wrong with women's advocacy but to try to paint feminism as seeking true equality

Brian Atlassee feminists don't fight for equality if said equality does not come at the benefit of women if there is no benefit to be reaped by some by a form of equality feminists will not fight for it

Brian Atlastherefore it is not a true equality movement because if there's a form of equality that would in some conceivable way come to the detriment of women but equalize the genders for example

Brian Atlasmilitary conscription feminists will not fight for it even if you're granted equality for example with uh if you equalized military conscription to the point where both men and women

Brian Atlashad to register for the Selective Service had to excuse me if they both had to be conscripted in more time that would be equality but it's the case

Brian Atlasin today women were able to secure the vote without having the corresponding responsibility of being conscripted into war so and even to this day women are

Brian Atlasnot subject to military conscription in the U.S and the vast majority of Western countries where we have feminist movements and where we otherwise have equality between the sexes I mean

Jessicafrom like my definition of feminism like I said like equal the belief that men and women are equal and I kind of take like your version of it I mean you I know you're not a feminist but like we

Jessicaare equal in value we are not equal in like we're just not equal like you can we can't it's comparing apples to oranges it's two completely different

Jessicathings so that's kind of where I see it and I and I I don't know it's taken since I've kind of Switched political leanings I it's taken me a while to kind

Jessicaof like reclaim the term feminist because like I do just believe in that like we are equal in value and I think that's like important and you I mean it goes into a whole bunch of other different

Jamiedefinitions I guess everybody interprets it differently but like that's my belief of like what true feminism is I think another aspect of feminism that really bothers me is this obsessive culture of

Jamiemaking women go into work and encouraging them to work which I'm a huge fan of like I I love a you know I think we're all Americans and we should pursue our dreams in our career but not at the expense of your family and so

Jamiethey're leading women into this corporate life that's so unfulfilling and it's just like honestly buying into this whole capitalist system where you're just sitting at your desk all day and you leave behind no Legacy and you have no family and there's no

Jamiefulfillment and as someone who works and also has a daughter I will tell you every day of the week every second of the day being a mom is way more fulfilling and important to me than whatever career is is happening and that

Jamiedoesn't say that you can't be passionate about your career but I think there is no focus on that with women instead it's going to the corporate machine work all day freeze your eggs will pay for your abortion and I think that's so toxic and detrimental to women I think that I

Julesagree with a lot of what you're saying but you also we also have to always acknowledge that that's a luxury that so many women don't have and so like in this time where a lot of women do need to work and they don't have the luxury

Julesof you know getting to spend that time like with their children in that way that feminism there's aspects of feminism that do benefit women just like there's aspects of feminism that might hurt women and hurt men the same way

Julesthere's aspects of masculinity in this modern movement that are positive but there's also aspects that hurt men and hurt women and I think it's on both sides it's not like who's to blame is feminism to blame is masculinity to

Jamieblame but I think there's issues on both sides yeah I can agree with that yeah I mean I think it's like a one-size-fits all oh my gosh feminism is the only thing that's ever gone wrong I think there

Jamieit's the breakdown of traditional gender roles in the family I think there's a reason why this existed throughout history and has been successful and I think there's this attitude with people nowadays where they think that everyone that came before us is stupid and we're

Jamiegonna create this whole new world and I think we can learn from people of the past and their successes and like what created happiness and what created fulfillment and like I said my whole thing is I think feminism is very

Jamiecounterproductive to women and like even going into a whole other aspect of this they rare like when I see actual civil rights deterioration for women which is what feminism should stand up for like the transgender movement that now is

Jamieallowing men to basically become woman just because they like stereotypically feminine of things putting on dresses and heels and now they're invading our sports teams our locker rooms like these are our civil rights that we've fought

Jamiefor and now are being eroded by men and then I see rarely see feminists standing up against that hmm and like men are taking our championships our titles they're competing in our Sports and like Title

Victoria (Vicky)IX we fought really hard at like feminist fought hard for that what what's up I agree well like to be real that's so like Jesus Christ I feel like that's how does that have anything to do

Victoria (Vicky)with feminism when we come to feminism it's just kind of about going to the places where like women are kind of considered not equal to men where women should be equal to men like I feel like

Victoria (Vicky)it was all about wages and then people drag it I mean it was about it was about wages and then it kind of dropped dragged into getting bigger about um what gender roles and like so but it was

Victoria (Vicky)of course in the name created to protect women but then are just choosing I mean like you don't understand like the chemical makeup of people and their hormones or their

Victoria (Vicky)hormone imbalances and like what happens in the body is so organic like you can't tell me there's enough science to prove that

Jamiechromosome is female and XY is male yeah but like who cares like everything they're coming in and taking away civil rights achievements that are coming into my prisons women in prison men aren't coming into

Jessicayes they are they are yeah look into Washington state prisons they're they're raping women I'm so sorry I keep saying the r words

Victoria (Vicky)I'll let you talk but I cannot condone rape life okay I'm just saying that men are coming into our Our Lives women when transgender women experience so much abuse all right we're not we're gonna as

Jamiewell as women um but basically what you're saying is that men like who are better women than women is what you're saying I'm kidding I'm kidding my my whole thing is that it feminism is not

Jamieprotecting women in this day and age and the actual erosion of our civil rights that I'm seeing unfolding through the transgender movement there's very few feminists yeah patriarchy wins again

Julesyeah exactly I just find the entire movement overall extremely counterproductive for women yeah and very toxic but do you think that that means that we just have to we can't we

Julesyou can't just like eliminate the idea that like there there is that movement going on for like people who are transgender to um you know do things like sports like we can't deny that that's happening so if it's I feel like it can't just be

Julesthat we either accept that or we don't but what about you know Finding solutions that everybody can agree with do you think that that's possible that's supportive of everybody that everyone would be comfortable with I have extreme

Jamiecompassion and empathy for people who struggle with gender dysphoria and that they they do not like the bodies that they're in okay stream empathy and compassion for that but that just

Jamiebecause someone feels that way does not mean it's true if an anorexic person is telling you that they hate their body they look in the mirror every day and they're like I'm fat I'm fat a doctor does not just prescribe them diet pills

Jamieit's the same way we should be teaching people that the body we're born in is the right body God does not make a mistake cakes you have a beautiful body and you should embrace that and you should love yourself for who you are and

Victoria (Vicky)regardless you can't you can't biologically and physically transition into a different gender and so like I said I have a few Jesus really cares about whether or not you're transitioning to Jesus is there one time in the bible where jesus many times he

Victoria (Vicky)made the man and woman where did Jesus say that Jesus came to forgive and spread love like for you for Society for our sins to live in his honor and Jesus died for our sins for so much there's nowhere else

JamieJesus remind us about being too religious so going through and saying men and women it's not religious like it's not like I can't believe you said that biological reality it's women are

Jamieborn with XX chromosomes okay we have children the bear pregnancy for the most part and men are born with uh X Y chromosomes and they have through they have completely different bone density

Jamiebody structure they have different sexual reporter productive Parts it's reality and so by Leading people down this false road that they can actually change their gender when it's not physically or biologically impossible I

Liv Margraythink is cruel and medical malpractice oh my God no I can say that um oh my God okay you know a man may be feeling feminine or feminine energy in them dressing up or whatever that's fine but I'll I could say I do agree with you on

Liv Margraythe part where the medical part because a man taking estrogen is like so just weakens their body and is really bad for them at the end of the day and I don't I personally I I don't know too much about it so I can't say but I would say

Liv Margraymedically is not really I'm fine with men liking traditionally feminism at the end of the day of most transgenders that transition fully like their bottom part

Jessicado commit suicide yeah no that's true you are statistically more likely after you transition that's why I think the gender roles are [ __ ] [ __ ] if anything it's about

Victoria (Vicky)gender roles like what what about okay so maybe I have a baby woman okay whatever everything else else about woman is a gender word and it's like if you're gonna sit here

Victoria (Vicky)and talk about people genuinely who genuinely struggle more than other people that is because that's how their emotions this is what you're trying to scream at you but it's just like it just feels

Victoria (Vicky)stupid to me we sit here and be like okay you're mutilating your body you can be a transgender woman and not touch your freaking joke I don't care like my pussy's a dick I can say whatever the [ __ ] I can believe and have whatever the [ __ ] I want it's their words that's

Jamiedelusion what's ironic what is about transgenderism I'm not like my [ __ ] is a dick but like my exact gender role and whatever gender that Associated so the whole thing is if a man likes

Jamiestereotypically then it becomes a woman that is cementing gender roles and saying like example when I was little I liked traditionally masculine things I like sports I didn't want to wear a skirt I wanted to wear shorts that didn't make me any less of a woman and

Jamieso that's what I find so regressive about transgenderism is that cementing archaic and stereotypical gender roles and telling people that they can be whoever they want to be but that doesn't make them less of a man or less of a woman but I think also if you're

Julesbringing you brought it matters because they're coming in like I said right they're dying yeah and there's very high suicide rates but also I think it's important to acknowledge that you

Julesbrought God into this conversation and I completely respect and I think a lot ever you know a lot of people respect your right to practice your religion to have your beliefs but then you also have

Jamieto respect someone but these aren't my religious I do have religious beliefs but it's a digestion of religious no it's not it's just it's a rejection of what I believe is biological reality

Julesthat's existed since the start of humankind but then why does it why if if we're not talking about like how it's coming into like our Sport and things like that I'm saying there's other alternatives for compromise that I

Julesbelieve are possible maybe we haven't found them yet but ways that we can all coexist peacefully agreed and so but to deny the experiences of people with gender dysphoria I don't think she's

Jessicadenying anybody's experience I think that she is just merely saying that this is a mental illness and to treat it as anything other than that is a disservice

Jessicato those people yes it's because you are telling them a delusion you're you're feeling into an illusion and and I know that there are some people who do

Jessicaexperience gender dysphoria after medical and um social transition but I think that for the majority of it if

Brian Atlaswe look at the statistics and the only long-term study done it has done can you pull up S funds really quick can you pull a bus fund it's one of the Instagram tabs okay guys would you date this man don't show the follower account

Brian AtlasI literally okay so this is s fan she's a he's a classic Chad World of Warcraft gamer um scroll keep scrolling down

Brian Atlasyeah he's a girlfriend no no I don't think so he's really uh he's a cool guy he's got look at this flow he's got really good flow and he's a paladin he plays a Rhett Paladin which you know

Brian Atlaslike not the best DPS but like he he runs his Guild so like he's gonna get Thunder Fury you know whatever but um right now he's playing hardcore um and he's a sweetheart he's like a

Brian Atlastotal sweetheart um so yeah you know it seems like a fun guy is he in the chat right now uh probably not um but yeah this is s found and he's

Brian Atlasjust like a [ __ ] Chad Rhett Paladin like a pump or Paladin he's still at the bottom like random women though like [ __ ] so so like um would you guys date him or what here let's hold on hold on

Juleslet's start with you go ahead I would have to meet him in person get to know who he is as a person I can't like look at a picture of someone and know a decision like that

Victoria (Vicky)um personally not really my type okay would you date him as long as he's not a prejudice sure well I'm so confused I like I can't take

Victoria (Vicky)the redirect from that conversation I just have to make a statement and say you guys aren't even entitled to that opinion yes wait yes yes

Victoria (Vicky)you guys are just like wow like It's just sad to me that there are people who can like think that way and like feel that way and I know that you

Victoria (Vicky)think that it's a mental disorder but people are like transgender 100 there's so much science on like just answer the question would you would you

Brian Atlasso do you would you date them

Victoria (Vicky)what's up I just think it's wrong like to segue I mean like I don't know him sure like I don't [ __ ] care at this point at the end of the day that conversation like everyone's gonna have their own opinions We're Not Gonna agree you know

Jessicawhat I mean like No One's Gonna ever I'm not gonna get anymore I want you to know that like I really don't think that they're like some disgusting like it's like wrong

Victoria (Vicky)I've redirected the conversation answer the question I just said I don't know him if he's sweet sure but like why can't I sit here and talk about that I mean because I've I've chosen to redirect the con the

Victoria (Vicky)conversation you can either accept that or you can leave your choice yeah for people out there who like are listening to this because yeah and you got to say get out to me but

Victoria (Vicky)like peace out peace out

Julessee ya I'm gonna get up too but thank you for having me okay it's nice meeting you no you can't sit here you got to get out

Victoria (Vicky)you gotta get out we drove together okay this whole Squad leaving or what we got a whole Squad trick then I'm sorry

Madisonokay can you just leave like okay together so I mean I guess I have to leave too sweet so yep nice meeting you nice meeting you

Madisonnice meeting you drive safe you say can you leave yeah you guys gotta go

Jessicaall right hat trick let's go three down wheelie is can we like no we'll we're just gonna okay okay all right was that was that an

Brian Atlasappropriate kick chat I don't know I mean you did say you were gonna redirect yeah I mean I wanted to move away from that

Brian Atlasconversation like if she wants to try to bully the conversation back there then POS yeah that's probably a little TOS

Jessicaum all right hat trick time um Okay so s fans S stand wait do you wait did I think that he was cute is that what

Jessicayou're asking me yeah I like what you did I wouldn't date him I'll be honest but I actually okay I can't say that I haven't met him in person I'm not I'm not gonna be that shallow just based on people I kind of think he's your type

JessicaShania no she was saying she was over here

Jessicaokay okay you should reach out no no no no no he looks nice like he looks like he's somebody that I would if I had met in person and they asked me out on a date and he is what I'm thinking he's

Jessicagonna be I like I would I would enjoy that date you know I don't know if I would go on a second but I would enjoy the first date and I would split it

Jamiesplit the Bell we're coming full circle what about you Jake would you go on a date with him I'm not gay

Madisonand I'm married not even just a tickle I'm married so that's the end Madison um if I didn't have a boyfriend still now sorry but you look fun I would

Brian Atlasdefinitely be open to being friends with you just not my type okay that's us fam for you okay um just a couple things here guys um I think we're going to wrap up the show

Brian Atlashere pretty soon we are going to do an after show Madison is going to host the after show and uh yeah so um what we're going to do now is hold on just a sec guys let me see if we have

Brian Atlasany we have Dre Moore here if you can just hide that for a sec Eric thank you uh draymore you women have lost your minds you need to focus on raising a family kids will make you happier than working and making money you could stay

Brian Atlasat home and do an online business focus on family and lock down the high value man trust me infinitely happier hey Dre Moore thank you man appreciate it all right we have uh who do we have here

Brian Atlasshe says very appropriate kick out if they can't respect the rules or podcasts they can go yeah I mean sorry I felt really bad I kept like engaging yeah I probably should have kicked you

Brian Atlastoo probably but um Rams Canadian thing for the 28. anyone oh wait oh sorry all right um uh okay then we have uh okay that's it

Brian Atlasfor the soup chats um I just want to say one thing so um I'm probably after the next two shows next week I'm gonna at least take one week off um it's been actually yeah let's probably

Brian Atlasjust keep it over here um been way too stressed out it's impacting the quality of the show um I want to apologize to Eric because I kind of snapped at him earlier when that window popped up

Brian Atlasum I've been like obscenely stressed out these past couple of weeks um there's a lot going on behind the scenes that uh you know you don't really see you know you see these four couple hour streams

Brian Atlasbut it's I work every single day I'm working 12 hours a day to make the show happen um we had 12 flakes today that's a [ __ ] record um I've already been stressed out enough as

Brian Atlasit is because I don't know if you guys know we had major technical issues last stream I was in here until 1am yesterday fixing the computer

Brian Atlasand that was a major headache we the the new computer I paid for we I got it working but I basically had to do factory reset basically had to get

Brian Atlaseverything set up again uh and then we just last minute had nearly the entire panel flake so I had to scramble um and it's like the last thing I want

Brian Atlasto do on the show day instead of focusing on doing preparation and scrambled to to get Replacements um so think thank you to those of you who I think

Brian Atlaswe had to well in any case um yeah it's just it was a lackluster panel um and uh yeah uh so uh yes sorry for for that and

Brian Atlasit's just been stressful like there's been a lot of bro we're we're under attack right now like um someone came on the podcast two shows ago with the destiny stream all right well basically there's just been a [ __ ] ton

Brian Atlasof drama behind the scenes um what's it called uh the podcast has been targeted we're [ __ ] getting like death threats and [ __ ] um my personal thing and during the

Brian Atlassegment in question uh I was silent during when the people were talking about that's that situation and I apparently people took that as a cosign because I was silent

Brian Atlasthat I agreed with the statements that were made but let me emphatically say now that I disavowed the stance that was taken um

Brian Atlasthat that's not my stance but people seem at least me personally the way I've always lived my life is I'm responsible for the words that come out of my mouth I'm not responsible for what other people say especially other guests on my

Brian Atlaspodcast I only know how to be responsible for me because I believe people have responsibility on an individual level however some people are saying well because you're on that side of the table then look in any case I've

Brian Atlasbeen super stressed out so sorry to Eric um and it's just you know how it is with flakes man like it just it's it's a nightmare so um

Brian Atlasuh yeah I think uh I don't know where I'm going with this oh yeah like there's been some [ __ ] going on like every single week for the past couple weeks we

Brian Atlashad the whole drama with with the chick who nip slip she's like threatening to [ __ ] sue us because we you know whatever um bro there's a lot of [ __ ] going on behind the scenes

Brian Atlasum and uh just been super stressed out so okay um and uh what else what else bro we got hit pieces from [ __ ] uh paint uh most

Brian Atlascritical Auburn preach all that [ __ ] uh a lot of [ __ ] going on behind the scenes so uh yeah um anyways that's that was rather long-winded but um

Brian Atlasyeah uh final thoughts from we are gonna do an after after hour show Madison's gonna host it um so if you want you can stick around after the end of the proper show um

Jessicaso any final thoughts anybody thank you for having us on yeah thank you for coming yeah thank you this was really fun a little heated at the end

Jessicait feels hot and loves her so I like how they close Shania Twain I hate it I love Shania Twain ah no

Shaniaum I mean I'm kind of the type of person that doesn't talk unless spoken to and there was very dominant speakers tonight so thank you for having me I love to watch

Brian Atlasit I love being in the mix okay guys

Brian Atlasum I think I hit yeah I hit on everything um okay so uh let's see what we're gonna do here uh okay guys so we are gonna do a uh

Brian Atlaspre-show or sorry an after hour show we're gonna dim the lights and uh yeah but uh last call guys hit the like button on your way out if you're not going to stick around for the uh after hour show thank you for tuning in

Brian Atlastonight you could have been anywhere in the world but you're here with me I appreciate that thank you to everyone who super chats and supports supports the show really means the world um thank you to the panel

Brian Atlasthat made it to the end um any women who want to be on the show DM out whatever we will be live again with our normal show Sunday at 7 p.m Pacific um

Brian Atlaswe will if those of you who are taking off we'll see you next time good night guys um and we're gonna lower the soup the TTS trigger for the after hour show and then we're gonna lower the uh read

Brian Atlastrigger to um let's lower to 50 maybe we'll lower it from there but for for uh read we're going to lower it to 50

Brian Atlasand then TTS I'll lower to uh or 49.99 on TTS I'll lower to uh 99.99 so uh yeah um

Brian Atlasword word word word Shania do you want to stick around for the after okay do you want to stick around for the after hours oh you have to leave you have to leave yeah yeah okay so at least

Brian Atlasit's good time yeah yeah okay cool um maybe all right see you guys Eric can you uh put the no no no don't stop Don't Stop Don't Stop um

Brian Atlasno don't don't stop anything um and uh could you uh what's it called could you put the lights on

Brian Atlasdim there we go welcome to the after hours

Jamiewhat's that oh thank you guys so much yeah thanks for coming thanks for coming appreciate it [Music]

Madisondo you want to come over here on this side I don't know what's happening the after hours show yeah just sit next to Madison hold on second ever really

Shaniayou can really start usually in that corner minimum donations to read you just get leg [ __ ] by that pool

Brian Atlasyeah uh okay I'm lowering the TTS to uh 99 I don't know we'll see I might lower it lower it more um hold on just a sec you look so

Madisongood yeah I need to stay after hours

Madisonokay some people just super chat some people um sometimes I read the comments and reply to them or whatever yeah so it's like alive yeah it's still alive this is exciting lower one back on the on the

Madisonvolume thing Weight Watchers my official role on the show is we have won this helmet and posting up

Madisonso now yours is three all right uh yes all right thanks everyone for staying for the after show I don't know how many of there are you on here but

Madisonit's good to see you how's everyone doing tonight hi

MadisonI'm just reading the comments do we have to sniff the seats no they always say them they or not sniffing the seats guys unless the normal Jets

Miscfireworks see ya wait Brian what normal chat are you talking about

Madisonyeah I am all right people are just what's your daily routine like what's your daily routine like

Shaniauh wow this is like this is insane yeah um daily routine it's very boring um I work in a hotel do you work every

Shaniaday I work every weekday oh um and I have to get up at 4 30 every morning every morning oh no I'm not a morning person I go to work and then um I work and then I go home and I go to

Shaniabed because what time are you going home I go home at three p.m yeah okay that's not that bad so not terrible yeah kind of far away from where I work where are you from I live

Shaniain Ventura and so it takes me about Malibu yeah it takes me about an hour to drive home so then I get home and then like I said I go to I go to bed because I have to get up at 4 30. she's a

Madisonhustler I heard someone ask what's our height you said you were six two I'm six foot two I'm five two she's old oh my gosh yeah she's a whole foot taller than

ShaniaI am I'm okay to be fair I am wearing heels though so this isn't my real height but oh my

Madisonoh my god do you want to put it I'll put it on the center this way okay here we go

MadisonI didn't even realize how the height difference earlier when we were standing next to each other are you in heels though I am all right I've said that yeah but still they're like yeah so like right winch heels yeah right now I'm 6'4

Madisonwow all right anyways

Madisonthey're like I I'm reading they're just she's an inch taller than me um she should have been a runway model that's what they were that's what we were saying earlier oh I would love she

Madisonshould model if anyone knows any modeling agencies hit her up please hit her up where did everyone go the show Brian I mean the show I just read a comment the

Madisonshow ended Howard Madison and Brian related I'm his younger sister I thought you guys were twins to be honest yeah a lot we get we get that a lot

Brian AtlasBrian do you join us do you join usually

Madisonyeah Okay Madison why did you quit modeling I never started but I I would love to you're actually the look that they're looking for right now too really yeah I'm short though I feel like that does

Madisonnot matter really it does not matter anymore maybe I'll I'm just trying to find time to get into it but do a girl I really want to especially because it's

Brian Atlassummer I don't have school so was I toxic this episode

Madisonyes straight up I was talking straight up not like that toxic just like a little here and there I was in the I've been I was in a bad mood it's reasonable why you were though

Brian Atlaslike I'll just say righteously so 12 people flaked like and then three people got kicked out so three people was the kick out Justified I mean people said it was

Shaniaappropriate okay I mean I do understand where she was coming from but also it's you have to know when to hold your ton so yeah I mean we tell them before the show like

Shaniaif I'm if I'm like Hey we're not going to talk about that let's redirect yeah I literally read it in the pre-show so it was like a host of a podcast that you are a guest on is saying hey shut up you should probably listen I feel like

Madisonthat's the big issue here people come on here and have the opportunity to be on this podcast and just yeah very entitled people

Brian Atlasuh Brian people are asking you to reveal the seven I'm doing great my dude if you need some muscle I got you sweet tooth 989 hey thank you appreciate it uh Tater Big W for Brian uh accountability and

Shaniaclearing the air thank you man Shania what is your type uh s-fond uh I uh I really like funny so um you mentioned when you were describing him

Shaniathat he you know was a sweetheart and that you could kind of tell that he had a great um attitude and personality in his pictures um because not all of them were super serious and all that so you have to be

Madisonfunny like if I'm gonna be with you you have yeah I'm sorry but if you're boring like what do we talk about well that's what my mom this one yeah

Shaniaum my mom gave me great advice when I started dating and she said um she basically said like you know looks go so far hold on I have a lot of legs

Shaniaoh I'm so sorry I'm like jamming her legs right now with my chair and I didn't even know um uh anyways her advice was um always be with someone that you would be okay

Shaniawith on a deserted island and it's just you and it's just yeah that's right and of course you know your looks are gonna fade on a deserted island and so if you guys are cool with each other that's it

Madisonso that's my tap if we can be on a deserted island together looks wise like what do you usually go for like brunettes blonde it really

Shaniaranges I mean um I've kind of said before I guess I'm kind of pansexual because I really don't

Shaniacare about how you look and yeah you know gender of course age you have to care yes to a certain amount you have to

Shaniaum but uh yeah so I mean in the past there's been Surfer Dudes there's been tatted dudes there's been blonde chicks

Madisonthere's been everyone so wow so anyone looking as long as interested and if you're funny can you read this one

MadisonMadison is dolly dolly Dolly it really hitting you hard because that's kind of wild I don't think you even said anything that crazy and I haven't heard about it he didn't say anything crazy she was just

Madisonbeing way too crazy and we wanted to direct the conversation multiple times and she kept going back to it so she she got herself like mad so that's why she had to leave honestly yeah hey thank you

Brian Atlasfor the uh Super Chat man appreciate it is that who Dolly I think he's might be talking about something else he might be talking about Destiny oh what happened can we are well basically

Brian Atlasum we had a male guest on the show and I was honestly kind of a lot of times I start getting checked out of the conversation because I'm like paying attention to the chat and I'm like dealing with technical issues especially

Brian Atlasif if there's like other dudes on the panel like Chase I kind of like lean back a bit and let let the other male guests speak especially when we had a such a stacked panel I'm like hey I'm

Brian Atlasjust going to play kind of moderator host I'm going to let other people speak um MLD said that and

Brian AtlasI feel like he he basically said that to endure in abusive relationships but I I want to be charitable and I feel like

Brian Atlasat least the kind of the frame of you I'm I'm viewing it as is that he may have very well meant that but it sounded like he the way he started what

Brian Atlashe was saying is like he was making again maybe he genuinely means that but the way I sort of interpreted it and if he does genuinely mean endure abusive

Brian Atlasrelationships disavow and that's not my position but I stayed I just was kind of I wasn't even saying anything during that entire segment um I think he was more so just generally

Brian Atlasspeaking hey people are so quick to end relationships people are so quick to the the first sign of look if it's physical abuse emotional abuse yeah you should probably get out but if there's like

Brian Atlaspeople have arguments and relationships people have disagreements sometimes there's lows sometimes there's highs in relationships I think he was trying to make a more General argument but like

Brian AtlasI think you I don't know look he said what he said disavow um but uh yeah so basically then it just went super crazy viral like got like 40 million views on Twitter a bunch of

Brian Atlasviews on Tick Tock a bunch of people reaction channels are like this podcast by the way he was a guest on the podcast he's not a host he's not part of the team he's a guest they're like this

Brian Atlaspodcast needs to be canceled this podcast is toxic and like I was getting DMS even though I S was silenced the entire time I've gotten hundreds of DMS from people

Brian Atlashate DMS saying we need to cancel your podcast blah blah all this stuff um so yeah it got and then Chase got some Flack too and

Brian Atlasthe the editing on well whatever I don't wanna I I don't want to go into it too much but we have sugar Brian uh I'm not gonna reveal what the seven is at the moment but uh

Brian Atlason the 77th episode will you this is the 77th oh we are here uh Mr Cappadocia what is the pre-show about what all goes on before the guests sit down that could potentially be interesting to stream

Madisonmaybe we could do it on Twitch rules uh radom guys I give you based off profile 6.9 brother [Music]

Madisonwhat the [ __ ] such like a happy like genuine person like I I would give you like a five okay so you know how everyone has like

Shaniatheir physical thing that they like the first mine is smile that's why I was like so happy that was a great smile that's a great profile you are very fine sir

Brian Atlasum we're good by the way for the for the soup chats let's do um just so we don't and let's do 10 and up guys we'll read super chats ten dollars and up and then don't just do it through Super Chat you

Brian Atlasdon't have to do it through stream Labs it's just easier for me to do it through soup chat um I mean if you want if you want to do it through stream Labs um the TTS triggers down is reduced um

Brian Atlasfirst girl that was kicked off was wig in the outside I think she was trying to get kicked she was hyper fixated on her looks and threw on the hat okay can you wear this do you want me to yeah

MadisonMadison great way to do this Yes W hat tricks she had like four warnings she was loud yelling into the mic the whole time couldn't handle the 50 millimeter Chad kick cannons from The Legend Brian

Brian Atlashimself and the two others were collateral damage yep awng thank you man appreciate it show was oh whoops that thank you k-pip

Madisonthe show was that what is that like maybe more feminine badge heavy again a petition to bring back Chaser yeah we're gonna have them back Chase is Gonna Come Back just don't I I it would have been good to

Brian Atlashave Chase tonight but uh yeah um yeah Chase will be back we'll have Lila back we're gonna have Lila to be Destiny I think um

Brian Atlasall right did I say 10 Enough by the way did I say 10 and up or 20 in The Hub 10 10 [Music]

Madison. thank you for the Australian appreciate it my order is either a passion fruit green tea with extra Boba or a milk tea with Boba extra

ShaniaI uh I don't drink caffeine so I don't know do they have none no yeah they have non-caffeine yeah anything non-caffeinated have you ever had Boba I have oh yeah I've only been caffeine free for a year yeah

Brian Atlasum Brian love the show would love to see Jordan Peterson Ben Shapiro or Brett Cooper on the show keep up the good work hey Sean thank you man appreciate it um yeah we're uh

Brian AtlasI've been talking to Brett Cooper's producers that may be in the works maybe it's falling through hard to it's hard to say but I I think I'm on good terms with the daily wire people so I'd love

Madisonto have Jordan Peterson on Ben Shapiro Matt Walsh Candace all those people brah someone trying to make name let me know I'm on disk not sure what that means thank you Brian do you go shooting

Madisonski or Target Shania Shania oh my God I'm so sorry Shania what would you do in in you free when you ain't in the hotel

Brian AtlasAJ SP thank you man um Sorry by the way just the it's hard for me to change the here actually if you it's harder for me to trigger the recent events so if you

Brian Atlasguys want you can do through stream Labs I just I can't I can't change the settings right now so oh [ __ ] um so if you guys just submit

Brian Atlasthem through YouTube if you can I guess um you TTS still triggers through uh what's it called um streamlabs but we'll just do oh I

Brian Atlasdidn't answer the question hey Victor uh no I don't really I don't go shooting I've I've BB guns but um yeah what do you do in your free time um lately I've just

ShaniaI've just sounds weird but like I'll just go to a town maybe three hours away and just go to like people watch and then head home at the end of the peaceful like yeah that's why I'm like I

Brian Atlasjust and I yeah I think she mentioned me in an Instagram story let's see she's gonna be like oh my God wait Jules oh Jules just a girl oh yeah she's just posted a story

Madisonhere I'm gonna get up but do you want to uh how big of an age Gap do you feel is too big for example I'm 33 and a girl I'm sort of seeing is 22 but I feel like a creep sometimes when I'm with her just

Madisonbecause of the social stigmas surrounding it honestly age does not matter you love who you love I'm not that I don't really care

Shaniaabout like age to be honest uh I usually prefer my partners to be older so um I mean if it's making you uncomfortable obviously stop doing it

Madisonbut if you're okay with it and she's okay with it then who the [ __ ] cares whatever just learn to be okay with it and honestly 11 years is not that big of an age Gap not at all there's crazier

Madisongoing on yeah you go for it you do that you do that with consent first thank you so much Brian you're awesome the show's awesome and it's really helpful to clear out lots of

Madisonissues say hi to the girls I'm here if you need any I.T help I can automate stuff

Brian AtlasI think I got it figured out but uh I'll be sure to be in touch if any incidences come up

MadisonI can feel your stress B The Snuggle is re oh this is a spoonie pillow you guys never sent me my pillow by the way you dm'd me and I gave you my

Madisoninformation and you never sent me a pillow right can you see that you need a good cuddle sesh from your cuddle buddy what is spoonie pillow is it like a like

Madisonit looks like literally the um like a picture like it's like it's like a cylinder kind of that you can like put your arm under if you want to like spoon with someone I guess oh so

Madisonyour arm doesn't go dead yeah yeah oh oh that's actually really smart I like one too please thank you yeah send her one send me one too yeah send her hers first when I Google

Shaniahe said he has no kids this is interesting so when you Google my father it says that he is married he's only been married once unfortunately not to my mother

Shaniaum but uh when he was married it says that they don't have kids oh so that makes sense I am exceptionally

Madisonprivate so clarification yes that's honestly kind of nice yes if if it was not like that you'd be like blowing up oh yeah

Shaniawould you like to read this one oh oh okay Miss twaim let's date by the way sorry for the 12 flakes you deserve better Brian you do Brian um I Okay

ShaniaI uh um I don't know I'm kind of not actively looking to date right now I am I said it last time I was on the show

Shaniabut I have not had the best luck with dating with dating and so I've deleted all my dating apps and you said you're 25. I'm 25 almost 26. I'm getting up

Shaniathere um so yeah so I'm kind of taking a break right now but you know gotta do what you gotta do

Madisonmaybe in like the future yeah t Giggles Jiu Jitsu yeah Mr smile man all right I think the Segway was needed and they

Madisonneed to respect the hosts not gonna lie I was about to check out due to her being loud and not moving on you were 100 Justified great work here [Music]

Brian Atlasyeah Brian's behind the screen but he can still hear you

Brian Atlasum if you guys can hear me back here

Brian Atlasone in the chat can you guys hear me hello oh I see a one yeah they can hear you yeah guys I'm gonna go I need

Brian Atlasthat for a little bit I'm gonna lay down for a little like about 15 minutes so take it away right girls party

Shaniaoh we read that all right do you want to read this one um I've only been watching the show for around a week I really enjoyed

Shaniawait about around a week I really enjoyed I like the fact that you have both sides of the table and I completely understand why you ended the transgender conversation

Madisonthank you for being respectful yeah all right when is bangs coming back Chase is the goat who's Banks I never met Baines okay

Madisonbangs is definitely not coming back Chase is the greatest of all time he will be back just don't know when yeah Chase did you meet Chase I did oh yeah he's super nice he's very kind

Madisonall right it's amazing to me that this Aaron trick from the destiny app is still running her mouth LMAO how is someone so bad faith and wrong yet snarky and arrogant there's terrible people in the world

Madisonoh it's in the mail yay okay I'll DM you later after the show but thank you glad you didn't forget about me that's

Madisonexciting send her one too please DM her for me myself and I wait so you have a boyfriend you said right yes I do have you guys have been dating for 10 months we've been dating for almost 10 months

Madisonyeah we actually met like right when I moved down here for school like did you guys meet at school no um we met on the beach actually romantic [Laughter] yeah but um

MadisonI actually I don't know if I should like just tell my story but I had a boyfriend at the time okay that I met my new boyfriend so let's see

Madisonwhere's the button uh Brian said her mom but um yeah I just ended up being like really good friends with like my new my current boyfriend and things weren't working out

Madisonwith my other one I wanted to break up with him for like months but it's kind of hard to when you're in like a toxic relationship it's

Madisonhard to get out of it yeah so yeah I did it and then me and my boyfriend are now Jay very committed or we're gonna get married and then when you first met your

Madisoncurrent boyfriend was there any inkling in your head being like Oh like how you doing I don't want to sound like a bad person but like yeah I thought he was cute like

Madisonhe had a great personality like he he's the same person to this day like he hasn't changed a bit so I think that says a lot because I feel like in

Madisonrelationships like you'll get a guy or a guy will want to get like try to get you and then you'll like get with him and like do give your all to him and then he'll be like okay I have her so I don't have to try anymore

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