02:49:54Bangs (Anai)lgbtq the community and that obviously like went really wrong with me um overall I didn't have a good experience with in the church I
02:50:06Bangs (Anai)love like the aspect of like going to mass and like preaching and like having like some type of Faith but personally I just was never really connected with it and then everything that they would like preach to us especially very very young
02:50:18Bangs (Anai)when we were still in high school and like figuring things out um was very off-putting to me especially like not really like knowing myself too well I guess and then they're just like spewing
02:50:30Andrew Wilsonkind of like a lot of like hate did you would you say um would you say the the things that you would perceive as being hateful the things which they kind of preach as being restraints or human restraints do you think that it was the
02:50:42Bangs (Anai)restraint aspect of it that you just liked the most not the restraint honestly today Pope Francis actually um what he do he condemned um the lgbtq
02:50:54Bangs (Anai)marriage for church and the Catholic Church which I think is a great thing um I love that I love that for the Catholic church but
02:51:03Bangs (Anai)um cond means the opposite that means that he's not for condone cond I'm so sorry I'm so sorry I'm so sorry he condoned yeah but that's the
02:51:15Bangs (Anai)opposite of restraint that's the whole point I know I'm saying I'm saying that back then my church would definitely preach like a lot of like I wouldn't say restrain I that's not restraining
02:51:26Kikotowards me but I I'd say that was pretty hateful back then but they they societal restraints that's the point that you're just you have no idea what was said to her though in the Sunday schools that's why I'm asking I know that's why I think
02:51:39Kikothe disconnect is like yeah you're talking about restraints but it could be also that she just had a very negative priest or the one the way that they were going about it wasn't could tell me yeah and I was I
02:51:49Bangs (Anai)was very um disobedient at the time I guess I would like skip Sunday school I'd like leave with my friends so that wasn't a great thing I also wasn't like taking it too seriously because of these
02:52:02Bangs (Anai)reasons because I was like I want to rebel against whatever they are telling me and I would get in trouble the father would tell my mom and he would call my mom and he'd tell him I wasn't there and that I left
02:52:15Bangs (Anai)um so that wasn't fun it sounds like you were rebelling against restraint yes I I was I was at that time but at like the thing is I was almost like very forced
02:52:24Andrew Wilsoninto the religion cuz I ra I was I grew up Catholic um but I I have the thing I've noticed um just to kind of like this this exchange back and forth that most of the time when people say that
02:52:38Andrew Wilsonthe church or a church is doing something which is hateful they're usually pointing out a restraint on behavior that they don't like like it's not that they're hateful towards anybody or they're doing anything which is
02:52:48Andrew Wilsonhateful but rather they're issuing a set of restraints that and people don't want to adhere to what those restraints are so they tend to term it as being hateful Behavior but it it is hateful because it's your what restraints are you
02:53:01Bangs (Anai)referring to I was raised Catholic and because they told they would tell us at church like if you if a man sleeps with a man like you're going to hell like that was so that would be that would be restraint Behavior saying don't do this
02:53:14Andrew Wilsonthat's hateful because they'd say gay people no they'd say gay people were bad they'd say gay people if you thought somebody if you honestly thought this if you honestly thought somebody would go to hell for doing that act wouldn't the least hateful thing in the world be to
02:53:26Andrew Wilsonstop them from doing the ACT bro I don't think it's a responsibility people listen listen closely to the question I am listening if you thought you honestly thought a
02:53:38Andrew Wilsonperson would go to hell for eternity fire and brimstone For Eternity for doing an act then wouldn't the least hateful thing be to tell them not to do the act or to try to restrain them from
02:53:50Bangs (Anai)doing I'm sorry but looking from a different perspective who could the answer to that be no because I knew from a young age I
02:53:59Bangs (Anai)knew from a young age I knew from a young age that that wasn't okay for the church to say you're going to hell and
02:54:09Bangs (Anai)you're going to burn forever because you like a man think it's okay no I'm not asking whether you believe it or not I'm asking if a person did believe it if
02:54:21Andrew Wilsonthey honestly felt in their core being that hell was real and there and that people were going to go to that place this horrible horrific place for eternity if they didn't act then
02:54:31Andrew Wilsonwouldn't the least hateful thing for that person uh to do be to try to stop people from engaging in that act I'm sorry I've already answered your question no I can answer it you
02:54:42Kikoliterally didn't answer the question you I can answer it then Sophie will answer it if you have proof of that and you want to affect people's lives based off of that proof then sure but there isn't any so you can't dictate other people's
02:54:54Andrew Wilsonlives based what are you talking no listen listen to the question how would you okay here let me ask a different question it's not how would you feel if you didn't eat breakfast this morning I usually don't eat breakfast this morning
02:55:05Andrew WilsonI don't care okay and that's why we can't do the hypothetical okay I can do hypothetical with you if I honestly thought I literally just asked you one it's very basic question about breakfast and you couldn't engage in the
02:55:16Andrew Wilsonhypothetical okay if you don't want my answer that's fine I don't well mean well are you actually going to answer the question so here's the actual question let me give it to you again the person believes it they actually believe it whether you believe it or not it's
02:55:30Andrew Wilsontotally irrelevant that person believes it if that person believes it and that person wouldn't the least hateful thing for them to do would be to stop you from doing the activity they thought would
02:55:41Bangs (Anai)lead to that heinous thing no because then you're controlling yeah you're controlling Free Will why would you somebody ever do that if you stopped a murderer you controlling free will it's not respons different with
02:55:53Andrew Wilsonsleeping with somebody else that's so different no it's the same thing you're you're literally trying to stop a behavior that you think is damaging to a person wouldn't the least hateful thing be if you honestly believe that that was
02:56:04Kikotrue that a person would go to hell for all of existence would you try your hardest to stop them from doing that behavior I did believe that I yes and I see what the faith they're coming from is from a good standpoint as they're trying to help them because they think
02:56:18Kikothat yes if they do this action that they're going to spend the eternity in Hell whatever so I do see how Christians are trying to help that action and trying to help these people but I think my issue more stands from CU I I coming back into my faith I was raised Catholic
02:56:31KikoI'm branching back into Christianity to see exactly where I fall in I think the bigger issue is the hypocrisy so it's like if you're going to focus on the lgbtq community for doing those actions just also make sure you focus on everything else in the Bible that the
02:56:44KikoBible condemns make sure that you're also focusing on all of those people too and not just the LGBT community because that's not the only thing that the Bible says for us not to do right so like just make sure you give the same energy to everybody yeah okay but but to engage
02:56:57Andrew Wilsonwith this maybe you can help me out here Kiko the other the person if the person believes they this is what they believe and they're trying to stop or restrain a behavior because they think it'll lead
02:57:08Andrew Wilsonto this horrific outcome and they actually care about you don't you think that that person least hateful thing that they could do would be to try to stop that behavior all right this is your final final thing on this and I'm
02:57:20Brian Atlasgoing to move on I said yes just keep the same energy keep the same energy is all I'm saying is with everything that's what I all right let me read I'm going to read get caught up on a couple chats here guys um we have Alvin
02:57:33Brian AtlasSam ladies let's spice it up do you prefer a oh my god do you prefer a bushy peen trimmed bald what are your thoughts about each I mean I would not no let's let's
02:57:45Brian Atlasstart with I'm just trying to get the other side going first cuz I feel like we okay here we can start with Pria we can start with priia and go well she's coming that girl's coming back let's start with you okay um I I don't care maybe trimmed I guess trimmed not bald
02:57:58Kikobut trimmed whatever my man's doing whatever he has going on whatever he decides I don't trust a man who goes full
02:58:05Lydiabald why like a razor um I don't have an answer to that question trimmed trimmed trimmed
02:58:14Brian Atlasyeah hygienic just clean trimmed up prya uh I'm not going to answer that question yeah that's a weird question do you have a preference s uh down there do you pref
02:58:27of graywhen it comes to the grooming for a guy do you prefer it's uh bald bushy trimmed um I think people should do what they're what do you prefer what do you prefer that they do what they're
02:58:39Brian Atlascomfortable oh my God that's fine that's fine all right we have uh then that's the answer I don't yeah Jay ekin hey Brian hope you get got your package wishing you all a very Merry Christmas and Happy New Year love you all hey Jay thank you very much man appreciate it
02:58:51Brian AtlasAlvin thank you very much for your chat beforee appreciate it and then we have Jordan Royale it's coming up here in just a sec move on and allow Kitty we it's is it gonna come hello there we go
02:59:04Brian Atlasmove on and allow Kitty weap to tell her story before I donate a thousand and force you to continue bleeding open a champagne bottle Brian it's it's it's good now but um did you want to continue
02:59:14Kittywith your story um it was about how his car got repoed correct yes taken back yes um so pretty much I was supposed to go on a date with
02:59:25Kittythis dude and he showed up to my apartment and he came inside for a little bit because we arranged a date this is when I was younger we arranged a date for us to just chill and play like
02:59:34KittyN64 video games and he came inside for a little bit and I want to say about 20 minutes later we went back out and his
02:59:42Kittycar was gone and he was flipping out and everything okay yeah all right I don't remember if in the thing that I filled
02:59:51Brian Atlasout though did I say something about Chipotle maybe maybe um go ahead and just tell the story let me see if you uh
03:00:01Aurorasorry hold on um where speaking of which I love the steak Bowl so good wait what oh from Chipotle
03:00:12KittyI can't eat Chipotle oh it makes me so sick uh yeah you said he took me he took you to Chipotle but he made you pay yeah yeah he originally arranged a second
03:00:23Kittydate and was like oh I'm going to take you to some expensive taco place yeah and you said you said ritzy taco place and we show up to
03:00:32KittyChipotle and I had to pay for myself what a b and then I like went off I was like I'm never going to chill with you again no matter you're like hot as tatted whatever and then he
03:00:44Kittyrearranged it and we did go on a third date which he did pay and we went to like a bougie taco place but don't promise me no bougie did you continue dating him after the third dat or no no yeah you said you said that you noticed
03:00:56Brian Atlashe had severe Ang anger issues which was a red flag he started yelling at you on the first date when the car was repossessed yep did you hook up with him
03:01:06Brian AtlasI was younger yes so to be clear to be clear but I cut it off quick so he had severe anger issues first date he started yelling at you did you hook
03:01:19Kittyup with him after he yelled at you or was this before um I think this was the oh you hooked up with him on the second date not the first date I think it was it was the first date maybe it
03:01:29Brian Atlaswas we just made out that was it oh so I wouldn't count did you have no we didn't have sex okay but you so after he got
03:01:38Brian Atlasdone yelling at you and you noticed his severe anger issues um you were like oh this is a good guy to make out no it was awkward because he had to call his
03:01:48Kittyfriend to like lend him money to take him to go get his car out M so it was kind of awkward and then after going with him to get his car out of the in pound um he was like so do you still
03:02:01Kittywant to hang out and it was kind of like a situation where I kind of like felt bad and like I really didn't want to but I kind of was like I'm here already so
03:02:12Andrew Wilsondid the actual hookup happened on date number two when he didn't pay no no no I was just I was getting to know him
03:02:23Brian AtlasI didn't sleep with him oh wait so how how old were you when you dated him well it was just like dates I didn't date him he no but how
03:02:32Kittyhow old were you I was 25 25 yeah was and I just moved to Austin and the most weirdest part about all this was when I first came to Cali when I was
03:02:44Kitty21 um I used to hang out with these two twin brothers um which I was friends with ironically I asked this kid now when I was living in Texas for a year what made
03:02:54Kittyyou move out here he was like oh I had these two twin brothers the twin brothers that he knew I chilled with them when I was 21 out here and when I
03:03:05Kittywas in that crib that day they actually kicked that guy out from living at his place yet now fast forward to Texas I run into this dude it was like a weird situation well it's interesting so okay
03:03:17Brian Atlaslike you you made out with him after he yelled at you and then you hung out with him the second time no so I didn't make out with him after he yelled at me we had to go he had to get a ride well you you made out with him later on that
03:03:30Kittynight yeah so it wasn't like he yelled at you then you made out with him but no he was yelling at me in my apartment complex yeah like anyone would because his car got taken away but it's not my problem you didn't read the signs okay
03:03:41Kittybut then and but then on the toad but then on the second date you hooked up with him I made out with him again on the second date I'm going just I think I think I bitched and then he said he was going to make it up to me and all this
03:03:53Brian Atlasstuff on the third date okay did you end up hooking up with him at any point no I didn't oh okay no well it's just interesting because it's like women often complain about toxic men yet despite him displaying very
03:04:06Brian Atlasconcerning behaviors perhaps even abusive Behavior you made out with him you went on subsequent dates with him you rewarded essentially and reinforced his behavior same time I was younger then and on the third day I knew I wasn't
03:04:20Kittygoing to see him anymore and the red flag was when you paid for this expensive taco meal and I like got a whole bunch of drinks to third date to make up for what happened the second one um I was like oh yeah I might be moving and he's like oh you're moving then why
03:04:33Kittyam I paying for your date then I told you I want a girlfriend and I was like oh I think like in the future like to get out of it and then after that I was like I'm not seeing this kid again you also said that you had a strictly
03:04:45Brian Atlasplatonic relationship this is a different guy where you had a guy who was your slave he likeed to be kicked in the groin he was the dog and I would walk him on a leash he had a dog caller that stated property of kitty I wish I
03:04:58Brian Atlasbrought it with me if lost return oh you still have it yeah he gave it he gave it back to me when I moved out here he was my slave okay um was was this also like a fom thing were you foming him it wasn't like he'd pay you money and
03:05:11Kittyor um he would buy me things and stuff like that so slaves like do stuff that you want them to do so it's like hey I need my apartment clean come clean my apartment hey I need my car wash go
03:05:21Kittydrive and like wash my car but his whole fetish was uh slave and then CBT okay do you know what CBT is um i' I feel like I've heard this before CB I don't what
03:05:32Kittyis it and ball torture yikes I'll never that's a yikes I'm not I don't know about that one um M and another thing that is as much as like
03:05:43Kittypeople are like oh BDSM work is weird and all this stuff to me this is just my personal opinion I could never sell myself sexually that's just me I I'm
03:05:55KittyI've went through too many traumatic things where I wouldn't be able to do that cuz I don't think I'd ever be able to date anyone to be honest but when it comes to BDSM work one you're pretty
03:06:06Kittymuch finding out what they're into really finding out what they want um but a lot of people that practice BD M um usually are a lot more stable mentally
03:06:16Kittybelieve it or not there's been studies on it wait what look at up my phone died but people that cuz I know a lot of people are like oh that's sick that's weird you look you they understand their
03:06:29Aurorawants and needs I've been asked to be aded by so many guys people who practice you think a well adjusted man wants his balls and torture no no no some people not everyone not everyone not everyone but there is a good amount
03:06:41Kikothere is a good amount as long as you healthy healthfully doing your kinks there's nothing really wrong with that I've done videos yeah but that's that's my question though is like what's what's the threshold breaker it
03:06:52Andrew Wilsonseems it's super weird to me to think that both sides if you if you're a woman and somebody asks you to do this to them on purpose you don't you don't think that that's like a sign that maybe they're a sicko or they're not there's
03:07:04Kittybeen there's been studies on it that people that practice BDM are usually in better health because you have to think about it a lot of people that hate those
03:07:14Kittythings usually are the ones that end up going like psycho or crazy or they're into it but they're like in the closet about it you you look I don't even
03:07:24Kikoreally understand this so you're saying they're they're better mentally adjusted because they engage in those activities yes yes then the ones who have the ones who have those urges and don't engage in
03:07:37Kikothem is what she's saying she's not saying that these men are better than men who have no Kinks at all and don't do anything at all what she's saying she's saying that men who have these Kinks and at least act in them in healthy ways are better off than the men
03:07:48Kittywho have these Kinks and just so as we yeah okay I got it so and I will I will make one other
03:07:56KittySt I will make one other thing over here as far as BDSM goes it is strictly work related as far as my relationships they're not and honestly I don't think I
03:08:08Kittycould date someone that would want like I don't want to Dom a man to be honest I yeah but you would agree with me that most men don't want that kind of treatment right you would agree that
03:08:20Kittythese are these are out wires right I did meet this one guy out here that you would think doesn't have that fetish that looks completely normal he wanted me to spit in his mouth slap him in the
03:08:30Kittyface and he gets on to that and he's fine as hell but I just my friende that're they're not the norm was wait say that again one of my ex you would
03:08:41Kittyagree they're not the norm right I don't know like that's not that's not a normal thing that men would want normal definitely not it really depends because no one's normal in the world we live in right now yeah no there's still
03:08:54Andrew Wilsonso I feel like that's kind of a Dodge I'm just saying do you think generally speaking do you think generally speaking that men likely don't want to have women like dominate beat them up and like
03:09:07Bangs (Anai)they probably don't want that wait let me add something that's like a genre of men there's multiple genres of men you know you can
03:09:17Andrew Wilsonthere's Spectrum askers versus the just your question most men are into this or most men aren't into this I would need to see
03:09:27Kikoa study online to see numbers to be honest I know the mental part like that I know into this really dud you'd be surprised I don't think I don't think most men are into it but I think more
03:09:39Kittymen are into it than you are aware of there's guys like this BDSM that look completely normal and you wouldn't think they're into that just like there's hiic
03:09:50KittyJews that are even into that and you wouldn't expect that well I mean I don't know if that would surprise me or not but asking this specifically let's
03:09:59Andrew Wilsonassume that you have like the 100% of the population the whole cake if you had to give a percentage of how many men you thought were into this what percentage would you give it just as kind of a
03:10:12Lydiaguess maybe 45% I would say 20 you'd be surprised to be honest maybe it's cuz we're from New
03:10:23KittyYork went to LA and that percentage is bigger like in New York it's bigger There's an actual legitimate dungeon that you could work at that anyone can go it's way different than La New York
03:10:34Bangs (Anai)it's very open about it mhm I don't deny that there's like you know like a good number of men out there that like it but when say would be that high like to be
03:10:45Andrew Wilsonhonest I think there's yeah no I I mean I deny it I don't think that it it could be anywhere even close to for I doubt it would be even 3% yeah I don't hit the double digit and BDSM work isn't only
03:10:57Kittyjust beating up men there's more than that there's way more fetishes there's a lot more true that there's dudes that are into odk which is over the knee and dudes want to be spanked in the butt and
03:11:08Kittytold they being punished then there's also dudes that are into um what's the name of it sounding oh sounding is like
03:11:18Kittya book that you open up with different size like Chopsticks yeah and you stick it in the guys bre oh my God wait do
03:11:27Andrew Wilsonthat again do that again she's like he's like ear muffs but I mean you must you must agree that the majority men don't want anything to do with like that
03:11:39Kittydifference you make a lot of guys now today like choking women in bed they might not want to be dominated but they might want to d a girl I want I want to I want to go
03:11:50Andrew Wilsonaround be the opposite if D's like be the opposite right hold on I want to go in so you mentioned choking I'm curious here cuz I feel like
03:12:01Brian Atlaschoking has entered like vanilla territory from people I I agree with that I agree like all of a sudden I don't know what happened in like 2013 every chick to start want to get choked I don't know what happened it was
03:12:14Brian Atlaslike something in the water something I don't know every girl's like H choke me I'm like uh not trying to catch a kid so going around the table if you got are
03:12:24Bangs (Anai)you into that starting with Kiko what that's fine no comment I I'm open about my weird actually choking about your communal well what the yeah we've
03:12:37Bangs (Anai)talked about that we've talked about your communal sex toys hold on who I'm sorry what what come on okay oh I know what you're no no no you're not talking about no I'm not talking about that I'm not talking about that oh you're talking
03:12:49Bangs (Anai)like I'm talking about how you reuse vibrators sex toys he does and he just washes them with soap yes you can reuse sex toys can't are you telling these
03:13:02Nick (producer)girls donated $200 Brian is the Korean girl from the bow video she definitely looks like she gives great bow be a great time for the
03:13:12Brian Atlaspanel to comment on submitting in a relationship um wait quick and then we'll go back to my question so are you guys would you guys be down are you
03:13:23Brian Atlassubmissive to your boyfriend if you have one you're starting with Kiko going around the table am I submissive to my boyfriend are you submissive to your boyfriend submissive like if he's like I need to
03:13:35Brian Atlassee you bow would you you love the bow should we do the do we want do the bow video should we pull up the bow video we give me a heads up well let's just see the bow I just want to see the B really quick we'll see
03:13:47Brian Atlasthe pull the B I would love to comment on that okay all right like uh for example do you follow his
03:13:56Brian Atlaslead yes I do follow my boyfriend's lead okay all right the bow yes we're going to do the B we're just going to watch the first the first part of it so guys
03:14:07Brian Atlashere's the bow check out the bow this is this is Boom beautiful wait one more play it again rewind rewind Play it Again Play it again boom One More
03:14:18HaleyTime Boom oh my God H cultural I I'm that's that's what I wanted to bring ctsy I will dip but that that strategic like one that's a cultural thing and I just feel like it's
03:14:31Haleykind of like that specific are you saying that would be cultural appropriation is that no I'm just saying like I'm so I would be so down to like bow to my man but in the specific in that specific way I feel like you got to
03:14:43Brian Atlasspeak into the microphone please um would you bow Kiko no no no so that is so Random why would I bow what if he's like it's my thing I say
03:14:55Lydiano okay all right I'll take my dude's boots off every time he comes home that's that's the my would you
03:15:02of grayno no no no no wait what yes uh I think um eastern and western culture is different like if my
03:15:13of grayboyfriend wanted me to that's fine but it's not we live in a western country so it would be culturally weird but if we were living in Korea then it actually would be like culturally appropriate
03:15:25of grayabout to people that are either older than you or maybe higher in ranks in their work or education sure um if we lived in Korea maybe but we live in America and the culture here is not
03:15:38of graybowing to each other we usually shake hands here mhm so maybe I will greet him him with the shaking hand even kiss with I will happily submit to my
03:15:49Brian Atlaspartner in every appropriate way but I will not be bowing no bow no bow I don't know it's crazy to me because like you
03:15:56Brian Atlasgot like a girl will let a guy on a first date like you'll a dude on the first date you might even I'm going
03:16:06Brian Atlasto be a little vulgar here you might let him I want what's the most ejacul a a delightful way to you might let a
03:16:16Brian Atlasdude blast on your face but you won't bow for him okay well I never said that that would be happening either I'm not saying it's you
03:16:26Haleybut like a girl would sooner let a man you know on the face than then do a little bow I you know what I mean I
03:16:36Haleyobject to any women doing that in the first place the bow or the well some women are into it one time I had a girl ask me to do it I was like I'd rather
03:16:47Kikonot huh on her face yeah she wanted it oh wow that's especially in the that's a porn star no she she wanted it I was
03:16:56Brian Atlaslike she watches too much porn maybe one day but I was like H not tonight so wait going around the are you guys are you guys into
03:17:08Bangs (Anai)anyone any of you into being choked yeah here who just yes okay she like she's proud of it she's who who said they were proud of it
03:17:19Brian Atlasoh I'm not proud right here look she's what here going starting with Kiko are you I got comment I don't know I don't know how it's okay I don't want to answer it I'll
03:17:30Brian Atlasanswer it I'm not into getting choked please don't choke me okay watch out that was easy right but maybe it's the case um no I don't want to like pass out yeah but there's different levels of
03:17:41Kikochoking you're being like not like I can't breathe like no get the off of me I think that's very dangerous it is it is some people do it wrong and then
03:17:51Nick (producer)it collapses certain areas yeah you're not supposed to push the try oh gotler donated $200 bangs you can't bow you risk one of your herpes SS popping open and
03:18:02Nick (producer)splatting all over the floor voice is a common side effect of the Great Plague you should seek a specialist # heres
03:18:13Bangs (Anai)who is he hash well there's more yeah we're not going to we're not going to no um than or um he's just looking for a
03:18:25Andrew Wilsonreaction from you I feel like we didn't really get into what submission means though like to actually know what that means what does submit yeah yeah can we going
03:18:36Lydiaaround the table like uh you like to be oh yeah yeah I don't know why but the idea of oh God I'm not gonna go oh you like me it's like if I was gonna like die in that moment I'm G like die
03:18:48Lydiagetting like down by the best dick ever it's just like I I don't know and then what I mean there's one time oh can I can I be like descriptive but not too descriptive I don't want to I'm not
03:19:01Lydiagoing to share that no just slightly share it okay okay um well one uh of the times where me and my guy were doing it uh he just he grabb like we were like he's behind
03:19:14Lydiame and he grabs me by the throat he's like sometimes I want to kill you and it was so hot I loved it I loved it I'm not going to lie I love that too I am not going to lie I would be running
03:19:25Brian Atlasno no no cuz I just no I Know Myself she's here really quick I'll just address the the freaking the we're not going to pull it up but um first off
03:19:37Brian AtlasI've never even I don't think I've ever even talked about being stoic or holding frame on this chel you got me confused with somebody else those are not that I
03:19:46Brian Atlasthink have ever left my mouth but I mean I do think being stoic is good but like put anybody else in that position they're going to be like super flustered
03:19:56Brian Atlasand be like the is this is some weird psycho so um how how do you deal with a raccoon fake whatever that was so
03:20:07Brian Atlasokay um let me pull this one up we have uh show time Sim you can't blame me her it's not her fault she was a 25-year-old child I'm assuming this is the no he's
03:20:18Brian Atlastalking about Kitty M Kitty story oh I see okay okay got it hey thank you man appreciate it and then let me just see if we have here hold on one sec guys um I'm G to pull up Nickelodeon Brian don't
03:20:31Brian Atlasapologize for others misdeeds you're great sorry I'm a little behind am I on enhancements too though I turn off lord of the ring and watch your stream but I still see goblins JK buy some pizza for the girls yeah actually maybe we'll do
03:20:43Brian Atlasuh we'll get some pizza delivery after the show for for everybody yeah we we'll do we'll get some food for everybody after the show can somebody never been fed by this show ever yeah shortly before the end
03:20:54Brian Atlascan you guys just remind me we'll we'll get some some food going I okay cool load all right um let's see here I think we're caught up on the chats so Grid's chat was uh for the panel comment on
03:21:08Andrew Wilsonsubmitting in a relationship um and Andrew you want them to Define yeah well there's been um a trend that I've noticed uh every time I've been on whatever that the women say
03:21:21Andrew Wilsonthat they are willing to be in a submissive relationship but then when we figure out what that means it doesn't actually mean submission at all so now maybe I'm wrong right maybe the the trend will be bucked here but I'm just
03:21:33Kikowondering if we were to go around and ask what submission means I'd kind of like to know what that means to you um to me submission means going to
03:21:45Kikomy husband or what the title is would be my boyfriend right now first for decisions going to him for um guidance and what it comes down to I still like us having a conversation about things
03:21:57Kikobut he makes the ultimate decisions and what if what if he doesn't want to have a conversation though um it depends I think it depends on what it's about um so if it say it's something Financial that I've never touched or
03:22:10Kikodealt with before then yeah might not need to know about it but if it's a significant decision about our children per se and if I'm a stay-at-home mom I would like to have a decision what my children are doing cuz I'm around them more than he is so I feel like I should
03:22:22Andrew Wilsonhave a say before a decision is ultimately be made would he have ultimate Authority though on what decision is made even if you disagree when it comes to the children honestly probably because I usually don't care that much when it comes to about
03:22:34Kikoanything but and what about finances yeah I unless he's showing an issue of being not able to handle his own finances which means I probably wouldn't be with a man like that to begin with I I hope to be with somebody where I don't
03:22:46Andrew Wilsonreally have to worry about that stuff well let's assume for a second that you're with a man who shows that he's very responsible with finances but then he starts making expenditures on things that you don't like and that you don't
03:22:57Andrew Wilsonthink are very pertinent to the household uh for whatever reason maybe it's a new video game console or something something that you think is ridiculous but he likes for whatever reason and you don't like how he's
03:23:08Andrew Wilsonspending the money uh what would you do then would you still allow him to lead even if he's spending money on things which you consider to be frivolous that's a great question I
03:23:19Kikothink that moment probably my first reaction to be like how the example you gave say if he went and bought an expensive gaming device that I didn't think was necessary I would ask him to spend the same amount on something that I wanted may maybe a purse or something
03:23:31Andrew Wilsonand if he said no what if he didn't have it he he didn't have what the money to be spending the money yeah he had the money to spend on the gaming device but he didn't have any money to buy you anything he just he took the money which was saved and he bought the gaming device why does it
03:23:45Kikohave to be tit for T then then we would definitely be having a uh I would not be okay with that that point I don't want to ever say like oh divorce but I would definitely be like we need to have conversations about this because you're going to run our family into bankruptcy and that's it's not even about me at
03:23:58Kikothat point it's about my family you're not going to ruin my child's Futures because you want to be selfish on a gaming device that means we need to take a step back and re focus our lives and see what's really important cuz you're getting too materialistic at that point
03:24:10Andrew Wilsona well what if what if in this particular case he buys the gaming device because that's the money that you guys had saved for whatever frivolous spending but there was none left over for you he just spent it on himself and
03:24:23of grayhe you didn't feel like that was fair because you do more work than he does um then it's my turn next time yeah and I think like if you're submitting to someone to be the leader of the
03:24:33of grayhousehold then that means that you can evaluate their intelligence and their ability to apply that intelligence to specific ific situations and whatever problems may fall in the family you're
03:24:45of graychoosing to submit to that person whether it's a men or a woman whoever in the relationship because you know that they are capable of solving problems and not just solving problems but also
03:24:57Andrew Wilsonprioritizing the family unit before themsel and their like selfish design well that sounds nice but there's a problem with that too which is that
03:25:08Andrew Wilsonenter in marriages have rough patches which can last they can last not months or weeks but years rough patches so they could start with all of those qualities but then
03:25:19Andrew Wilsontherapy suddenly they have kind of abrupt shifts and they stop doing those things that made you submit to them initially because you chose to because you thought they were doing something for you so you're submitting because you
03:25:30Andrew Wilsonthink it's beneficial to you to submit that's why you're doing it but when it stops becoming beneficial to submit is that when the threshold breaker is and you say hey look I'm not I'm not going to submit to you anymore well I mean
03:25:43Kikoyeah if being a completely submissive means it's going to drive my family to bankruptcy obviously no I'm not going to just watch that happen I want to give them the chance to take on that responsibility own it and I'm not saying just one hiccup it's all over but like
03:25:55Kikoit could be the same thing as if my man's a sole income and he gets injured or can't get work or can't go on disability I might have to step up and go to work and do those things while he can recover it's not going to it doesn't change our whole dynamic it's just we are a unit together and sometimes we
03:26:09of graymight have to step up and help each other cuz we can't our own duties at that time not bet you're not a unit together you're submissive and he's the head right well you can submit and still have a sense of
03:26:20of graylogic you can still submit and be like oh okay this man is spending all of our money on video games I don't think that's logical you can still submit and have the logical reasoning of a person
03:26:32Bangs (Anai)that's responsible for other people's lives such as children yeah how was that submission Andrew so are you saying then stepping up to the household when it is needed is
03:26:43Andrew Wilsonnot submissive I mean no I didn't say anything I'm asking a series of questions try to figure out which your guys's kind of standard for what submission is and who is the head of the
03:26:53Andrew Wilsonhousehold and who is not based not on whether or not you are make them the head of the household when it's convenient for you to do so versus when it's convenient for you not to do so
03:27:03Andrew Wilsonthat's what the the questions are designed to figure out so so conveniency that is your main question convenience well well I think that when you reduce
03:27:14Andrew Wilsonit you find out that yes it's more about what is good for you versus so you're only submitting because you think it's good for you you're not submitting for uh some other reason than
03:27:25Andrew Wilsonbecause good for you what is the other reason to you if I don't mind asking well submission generally would have a religious connotation around it you would believe that your husband is the
03:27:36Andrew Wilsonhead of the family and that you're part of the body so how it would work inside the church they would say that the representation of the leadership of the church is Jesus Christ and you as the head of the family represent the Christ
03:27:48Andrew Wilsonhead and the woman represents the body of the church so in this case uh the head of the uh household just like the head of the church is Jesus Christ so
03:27:58Andrew Wilsonthe man is the head of the household so the submission there would come from a leaning in faith in God that you chose correctly even if you have rough patches you still stay submitted in this
03:28:10Bangs (Anai)particular case it always seems to me like it's just convenience based would you say that the man would I mean the woman would have to like I'm just going to say this and you can correct me if
03:28:21Bangs (Anai)I'm wrong but like worship the man almost would you say that like are you saying that no no okay then never mind what would you do if you're if you're a man if your man decided to like start
03:28:33Haleyblowing all his money in your marriage how would you go about that uh I I mean especially if we have kids involved um that's going to be the number one
03:28:42Haleypriority I would like to say that I do believe that like who I'm choosing to marry also I I do align with the Christianity so I I do see that and um
03:28:54Haleybut yeah if it's going to literally take away from my children but like I would hope that I would never choose somebody that that like cuz I'm I when I go into that relationship I'm going to be um
03:29:05Haleyalready trying to pick somebody who I want you know on my team but as my Captain you know what I mean I'm going to move the conversation on just a
03:29:14Brian Atlaslittle bit here I just cuz I got to uh redirect a little bit but um I want to bring it to Lala over here um you said that you consider yourself
03:29:27Brian Atlasmore conservative uh yes but you I for which one of you said you're a professional attention that's I'm a contradiction so you're you consider
03:29:38Lydiayourself more conservative but you do camming I assume that's nude correct mm primarily not I'm I'm wearing clothing full I don't get naked in public chat
03:29:49Lydiaand I usually repeat that I don't get naked in my live stream you I thought you said you're public yeah there's public chat there's also private chats but I don't do a lot of those I don't do them hard but you do do private they'll
03:30:01Brian Atlaspay so the the the the viewers they can pay to bring it private very few and far between I really have to make you you do get nude yes okay yes well you you said
03:30:11Brian Atlasyou consider yourself more of a conservative you aren't conserving I me your titties that's for sure the titties are not conserved if the titties are out they're not
03:30:23Andrew Wilsonconserved no no I'm just saying well what is what is conservatism mean to you I was going to ask it was more of like a political thing oh okay yeah I suppose they just like vote Republican means conservative to you no I've just being
03:30:35Brian Atlascalled that by so many people when they're like well you voted for Trump oh yeah okay so I guess her politics are conservative perhaps your your social
03:30:44Brian Atlasleanings are more is good you literally I know I know you do sex work I know that she can do it not think it's a good thing I don't think it's good for women I don't think it's good for I suppose that's fair yeah
03:30:57Andrew Wilsondo I don't think I'm going to have kids so I don't have to embarrass them yeah but but do you think that it's common for people to practice and engage in things which they think are bad if that other options are available to them I mean I don't have that many options
03:31:10Lydiaavailable to me with my situation but I'm not going to like use that as an excuse it's just I what what hang on how could that possibly be true that no other option is available I have no
03:31:21Lydiavehicle I live 50 mil away from like the nearest city like there's no jobs where I live I used to have one seem like easy conditions to remedy um it's not that
03:31:33Andrew Wilsonsimple it sounds simple it sounds like you would move to where the work is and you would uh move away from the conditions that you're in I'm guessing that if if you're stripping or taking your clothes off for money that you make enough money where you can probably move
03:31:46Lydiatowards a place where you no longer have to do that I spend the majority of my time in my public stream just talking to people talking to guys and uh just hanging out with them wearing clothing sometimes I'm painting while I'm doing
03:31:57Lydiathat I don't I could except when you're not right well no it's it's really P like for the last year and a half it's just been like non nude stuff if I wanted not not a single piece of nudity
03:32:09Lydiano I've never said that no I have stuff that's been in the past and I kind of wanted to retain my self-respect I guess within my own my minimum level of self-respect I guess so can I ask you a
03:32:20Lydiaquestion absolutely so you identify yourself as conservative politically what what is being conservative mean to you like how do you define that I think the American family is dying I I really
03:32:31Lydiathink that we need both parents and a household I do split with this one closer oh I think we need both parents in a household men are becoming weaker and women are
03:32:42LydiaI don't like feminism I I think it's absolutely destroying everything I think it's like a slippy slope to Communism and Outlaw sex work yeah I was
03:32:53Lydiagoing to say well I I I mean honestly I don't necessarily think my choices in life have been great but I've kind of accepted the consequences that come with that like I might not I'm probably not going to get married I'm
03:33:06Lydiaprobably not going to have kids but that's what I was dealt in life by myself I did those choices because like my dad's a cop okay so I had to Rebel super hard as a kid because I felt like I needed to since I was trying to test
03:33:18Andrew Wilsonthem so because he was a cop yeah absolutely um yeah but but would you support outlawing sex work no no why not well okay this is a joke Frank zapper
03:33:30Lydiasaid it uh sex work should be made legal and keep it near the politicians because uh they need it most I guess but no one needs sex that's a joke Frank zap is a
03:33:40Andrew Wilsonnever mind mind yeah I know who Frank zap is but but that aside um the the question remains if you have even conservative politics why wouldn't you want to Outlaw sex work is it just
03:33:51Andrew Wilsonsimply because you of course make gains in your life by doing sex work I wait say that again is the reason you don't want it outlawed is because you do it I
03:34:00Lydiadon't want it to be like like open I honestly uh don't think sex works that great I think it I don't I said I'm contradictory about it I don't think
03:34:11Lydiait's why not stop because money and I'm not doing like the things that I do lately are just what I've said I paint I I'm wearing clothing I'm just hanging out
03:34:23LydiaI've been told that I should stream on YouTube but I would get banned for what I'm talking about a lot of the time yeah okay uh well let me let me move it on a little bit oh I got one more thing to say actually okay I honestly have a problem with all these girls who have
03:34:36Lydiagone on platforms like twitch and they're doing this adjacent yeah yeah and so I you know it's like take it the hard way go go on a camsite if you're going to try to do stuff like that
03:34:47Lydiabecause it's not okay to have stuff where like kids can see it what are you talking about this no she has a good point she's she has a great point no she doesn't have a good point it's a
03:34:57Andrew Wilsonterrible Point saying she does how dare how dare they go on to Twitch TV and not do the full monty they not what she's saying what saying she's saying that she's she's saying that she at least
03:35:09Kikoshe's going on those sites that are advertising as that whereas we have women who go on Twitch and other streaming platforms that our kids are on and we'll do like half ass sex work type streams to try to get away with it
03:35:21Andrew Wilsonthat's what she's saying is that's wrong that's what that's what her point is yeah so go so go full sex worker no not what anyone's saying they don't have actually her exact words were you should
03:35:32Andrew Wilsongo the hard way and get a campsite instead of doing that those were exact words she's saying keep it away from the kids she's saying that we should be keep models on sites there's a category for that but they're not nude why would you be against her saying that these people
03:35:46Andrew Wilsonshouldn't be doing this around kids I don't understand you're not even listening to what I'm saying I'm saying that what she said her exact words were if you're going to go on Twitch and wear skimpy outfits you should just go the
03:35:58Bangs (Anai)whole nine yards and just no one said she did that we're telling you one it's my point it's my point hold on we're telling you one thing if they want to do that at all
03:36:10Brian Atlasthey don't have to take off more clothes just go onto a platform that's designed to not to be for adults only I don't think it's okay to have anything okay Point made um so you but one followup
03:36:23Brian Atlasquestion on this then I know you have a story to tell you said that you Tau uh I mean you talked quite a bit in your pre-show notes about you're conservative I do you consider yourself traditional no I can't okay you're not traditional
03:36:33Brian Atlasbut you're okay I see I see the distinction um you say sex work is bad I mean it's like but so sex work is bad maybe you've already you've already kind of gone over this but how do you reconcile that stance with the work you
03:36:46Brian Atlasdo because I mean I looked at your Twitter it's kind of degenerate there's a photo of you with a penis bong in your mouth yeah on your Twitter my eyes are permanently scarred just kidding I'm
03:36:57Lydiajust kidding um like how how do you uh it's kind of funny to me cuz the bong thing like there's girls on those sites that like will suck fake dicks and I think it's gross and stupid I just
03:37:09Brian Atlasit's a bong it's a bong for okay F whatever yeah I made it are show of hands who here does o you do I don't well uh who here does
03:37:19Brian Atlasdoes any sort of content online direct toward that that's like you're engaged in sex work online tech yeah technically
03:37:29Brian Atlastechnically technically so you four I'm just curious um are you guys are you guys religious at all like Christian or up really Catholic but are are you still
03:37:39Lydiaor um I struggle a little bit with faith so are you still religious I don't know it's hard answer what about you are you religious I used to be atheist and then my grandparents died both of them in
03:37:50Lydia2017 and I believe in God I believe in God are you Christian are you I'm not going to identify myself as anything CU I don't follow their their values the
03:37:59Kittysame I was baptized Catholic but then I went to Hilson and then turned Christian oh shoot um I was baptized Catholic and and then years later I
03:38:11Kittystarted going to church and I took my hand up for being Christian but I kind of slowly felt I don't just are you currently no do you cons okay I'm Pagan
03:38:21AuroraI grew up Christian and then my dad raised me pan Pagan what do you uh what do you mean by Pagan like uh I guess you could just say spiritual I don't know if I want to get into that whole
03:38:33Brian Atlasconversation what's the half horse half man what is that aenta centa do you believe in centaurs and I don't know if that's p that's not really paganism okay like uh like witchcraft
03:38:44Auroramodern witchcraft you say that but it's you cast spells and curses no are you Shaman do you do like any Shaman I've done Shaman work you're a shaman I have but I wouldn't call play World of Warcraft or like did you play
03:38:56Brian Atlashorde or Alliance I actually have played World of Warcraft I love that kind of stuff so like but are we talking burning Crusade cuz if this if this is like classic World of Warcraft then like you can only play shaman on horde so I'm just
03:39:08Auroralike Legend wait was it horde were you playing horde Shaman or Aon Shaman neither don't let get into but like no the thing is like when it comes to this don't know I want to get into this right
03:39:19Brian Atlasnow this is going to be a really longate but so like you can play Toren if if you're like classic cord it's Toren orc and troll Shaman but then like
03:39:30Brian Atlasonce umy the burning right once the burning Crusade comes out then like Alliance gets Shaman and then you can be a d draai Shaman so I don't know like losing brain on someone on a DTS so this
03:39:42Brian Atlasdo you play D and D for the you ever play League of Legends no I don't I didn't play league I just played some World of Warcraft stuff some Wow's way better than leue Brian plays a lot
03:39:53Brian Atlasmore than some well I haven't played in in a while it's been a minute um we could bring it back out okay so you're not do you still consider yourself Christian at all or I don't know not really I don't know all right uh I want
03:40:05Brian Atlasto go on we have a message here from Stiffler ask everyone to rate their looks on a scale of one to 10 um so starting with Kiko uh
03:40:17Kiko7.5 okay 10 10 like a five on a good day seven I'd say eight I'm going to say like a five and a
03:40:30of grayhalf on a good day I've gained a little weight little double chin oh yeah I think I used to be more fit like
03:40:37Brian Atlascardiovascularly so um probably like seven eight on a good day 6.5 or seven I give myself a uh I used to give
03:40:50Brian Atlasmyself a six but I give myself a five because I've have a dad bod now and it's I need I need to lose some weight because I've been stress eating because
03:40:56Brian Atlasof situations like that but um yeah dude uh five cuz Dad BD RP's in the chat for Bri about you Andrew what about yeah yeah Andrew what about you or okay all
03:41:09Brian Atlasright all right why why you laughing bangs why you laughing that was very humble I don't know so wait 10 10 you're the we got the two 10 here at the table the we got the two uh is there nothing to
03:41:21Bangs (Anai)improve like there's no room for improvement there's a lot to improve I think nine should be the highest someone gives himself I would I just don't want to come up on the internet and be like oh like give myself
03:41:33Bangs (Anai)less than anything than a 10 cuz that's like silly to me I understand yeah I I don't want to like come over here and like have this be broadcasted and be like I'm a I'm an eight no I'm a 10
03:41:45Bangs (Anai)always we're all tens you guys are all beautiful am I a 10 I like that mindset yeah Brian you should feel like a 10 no
03:41:54Bangs (Anai)no you said you said that we're all tens am am I should only feel like am I a 10 um let me reward that we should all
03:42:05Bangs (Anai)feel like tens okay uh who is not I don't know what that I'm a I'm not saying I'm a 10 I'm saying I feel like a 10 okay well and the objective reality of what you actually are what are you
03:42:17Bangs (Anai)there's no object reality of raing yourself that's silly that's very silly dude chill I I'll just wait what do you mean chill
03:42:27Andrew WilsonI'm just saying you got your panties and a twist for everything that anyone says you're saying that everything externally well I'm sorry you say stupid but you say everything that a person say
03:42:38Andrew Wilsonexternal problem 10 I am a 10 I'm asking if you take the feeling away for how you wish you felt or whatever what do you
03:42:48Bangs (Anai)objectively think that you are I don't know so if a group of a hundred men from all around the world were lined up what do you think like I don't care what those group of men say question I don't
03:43:00Bangs (Anai)care what those men say I don't care why would I why would I want to think oh my goodness like put my value on to men men aren't The Gatekeepers of beauty Brian
03:43:10Brian Atlasis keeper well actually wait wait just just hold Ona wait just to address that
03:43:20Brian Atlasso actually if we're talking on The Dating Marketplace we kind of are because we determine your value in the dating Marketplace you don't determine it because it comes down to of all the
03:43:32Bangs (Anai)men in the dating Marketplace who's going to date you sexy fine men like the other way around too I've gotten with so many sexyy men I've been with on dates with so many sexyy men have I been in a
03:43:44Bangs (Anai)relationship with them I've only been in a relationship with one man I've not really been there with I haven't dated them I know are you down to are you down to reveal the stuff or no no no no okay
03:43:55Brian Atlasno I'm not going to do it I was just I was just curious okay um she she's going to reveal it me and me and bangs are going to do a uh I I've been teasing this for months now right it's just me and bangs are going to do actually in
03:44:07Brian AtlasKiko you got to do one with Chase um a date oh actually I don't want to reveal it I don't want to reveal it I'm not going to spoil it but um big things coming 2024 big things coming 202k 10K and I'll do
03:44:19Bangs (Anai)it um but and I'm upping the Tay Tay boxing match I love you on iie did I say it right I love you on I you're not a 10 yeah you're not a 10
03:44:30Brian Atlashow how well did that go for you on TiK ToK by the way oh I got dragged I got dragged I got draged draged that's all I'm going to say I'm all going to say make some more Tik Tok
03:44:40Bangs (Anai)fine make more Tik Tok Tik Tok the the original account that posted it like my my reaction went more viral then they're on and I didn't do anything I didn't do
03:44:51Bangs (Anai)anything in that Tik Tok video I just reacted to
03:44:58Brian Atlasit m okay um my shoulder hurts and didn't what's her name uh Drew off wallow didn't she I think she reacted to it oh I don't know she did I would love
03:45:11Brian Atlasshe she came to your defense I would love to see that up no she just made a bunch of made I haven't seen it where did she react to that she wanted
03:45:20Kikoto get rid of white men with podcasts apparently um yeah get rid of that's what she said she was like kill them off but like just stop giving every white man you know what she probably would if
03:45:32Brian Atlasshe she J doesn't care about y'all that much no she's super pressed she's super pressed she does seem super pressed wait do you know where where she reacted to that clip on on her Tik Tok I have not seen that oh my God I
03:45:48Bangs (Anai)follow who was that a snort oh gosh um oh wrong one MD got drag too and can I tell you a little quick
03:45:59Bangs (Anai)story I I saw that Britney girl drag oh no can I tell you like something real quick and I don't want you to get scared okay uh I had okay so I I felt
03:46:11Bangs (Anai)before that clip like went viral or like no actually you know I don't want to talk about it tell me after the show tell me after the show it's so pointless did you dream about me what the no just be honest no you're going to get mad at me if I say it on here you're
03:46:24Brian Atlasgoing to be like you wasted my time okay just tell I don't want to talk about it you had a sex dream about me what the an yo what chill out bro what the