Andrew Wilson HEATED Debate! She Has 2 Vs? TRAD OF GIRL? VlRGlN Tatted Club Girl? | Dating Talk #137

Date: 2024-02-21

Duration: 6h 50m

Guests

Brian Atlas

MMiss Exquisite >

MMadison (DT137)>

AAnnie Charlotte >

MMalik (DT137)>

AAlexis Wilkins >

AAndrew Wilson >

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00TTS/Donations(audience)

SPEAKER_02Andrew Wilson(guest)

SPEAKER_05The Gobler(guest)

SPEAKER_06Miss Exquisite(guest)

SPEAKER_08Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_09Alexis Wilkins(guest)

SPEAKER_10Malik(guest)

SPEAKER_11Madison(guest)

SPEAKER_12Annie Charlotte(guest)

SPEAKER_14Crow(guest)

Key Moments

IntroThe Gobler introduces herself as an adult film star who is also a licensed practical nurse, keeping her real name private to protect her nursing career.

“I'm from upstate New York um and I'm 30 years old and that's about it oh oh I'm a adult film star sorry”

IntroAnnie Charlotte reveals she has uterus didelphys: two vaginas, two cervixes, two uteruses. Currently has two boyfriends, one for each side.

“I'm Annie Charlotte I'm from London um and I'm an only fans model with two vaginas”

ControversyAnnie Charlotte debates Brian on STD testing practices in UK OnlyFans industry vs US mainstream porn, challenging his characterization of the risks.

“we have to get tested every 14 days”

ControversyAndrew Wilson challenges Annie Charlotte: she cannot articulate a philosophical reason why men and women ought to be equal, despite writing a dissertation on Aristotle and feminism.

“I don't sorry I don't know I wish I knew why we weren't equal”

OtherCrow recounts being escorted into a locked basement by her boyfriend's family (cult-like) on their fourth date and coerced into having sex while the entire family watched. She complied out of fear for her safety.

“I saw the mom lock and chain the door I'm like oh boy”

ControversyBrian and Andrew debate abortion with Annie Charlotte. Annie argues life begins at brain function. Andrew shows she cannot consistently apply this principle (SA victim at 6 weeks).

“you just advocated it's okay to murder a kid”

ControversyMiss Exquisite challenges Brian's dating standards as unreasonable, saying you cannot expect someone you just met to immediately cut off everyone else.

“it doesn't make sense for you to assume that somebody's going to do that”

QuoteBrian makes extended World of Warcraft analogy about dating standards, comparing an ideal low-body-count woman to 'best in slot' loot.

“if I'm if I'm on my rogue right like I definitely want preditions blade from rag”

QuoteMalik tweets read on air: 'a lot of people fail to recognize the fact that if men today were stronger smarter and more dominant any woman would be submissive'.

“if men today were stronger smarter and more dominant any woman would be submissive”

OtherMiss Exquisite discloses estimated body count of ~250 (stopped counting after losing track; guesses 150-300).

“maybe between like 150 200 maybe 250 maybe 300 maybe”

Topics Discussed

Introductions and relationship statuses

Guests introduce name, age, location, occupation. Brian asks relationship status. Annie Charlotte reveals uterus didelphys condition and two boyfriends.

Reaction video: tatted virgin club girls

Panel reacts to man-on-street video of two Miami women who claim to be virgins. Debate on whether they are lying, body language analysis, whether tattoos/clubbing lifestyle implies sexual activity.

Shawn Evans and dating porn stars

Discussion of athlete Shawn Evans who reportedly broke up with porn star girlfriend. Brian argues men should not date women in sex work for practical, reputational, and STD reasons. Women in adult industry defend their practices and STD testing regimens.

Body count and female value

Extended discussion of whether body count affects partner value. Andrew argues it lowers female value more than male. Brian advocates men avoid even casual sex with women who have high body counts or are seeing other men. Gobler discusses cuck/stag psychology.

OnlyFans relationships and cheating

Debate on whether sex work constitutes cheating if partner is aware. Brian reads Miss Exquisite's explicit promotional tweets. Andrew poses hypothetical about calling partner before each sex act on set.

Annie Charlotte's philosophy dissertation and feminism debate

Annie Charlotte discusses her BA dissertation arguing Aristotle was a feminist. Andrew challenges her on why men and women ought to be equal. Extended debate on definition and justification of feminism, WNBA pay, wage gap.

Crow's cult family story

Crow recounts story of being coerced into having sex in front of boyfriend's entire family (parents, grandparents) in a locked basement on fourth date. Described as cult-like initiation ritual.

Abortion and legal paternal surrender

Brian and Annie Charlotte debate abortion rights. Brian proposes legal paternal surrender as reciprocal right for men. Annie agrees men should have option to relinquish parental rights if they do not want the child.

Self-ratings round (1-10)

Guests rate their own looks 1-10. Miss Exquisite: 9. Annie: 10. Gobler: 10. Malik: 7. Crow: abstains. Alexis: 5. Brian: 5. Andrew: 4.

Dating standards and exclusivity

Brian advocates for men refusing to date or sleep with women seeing other men. Debate on whether it is unreasonable to expect exclusivity before commitment. Malik and Crow support monogamous dating; Miss Exquisite argues multiple dating is normal.

Exit strategies for sex workers

Andrew asks panelists about exit strategy from sex work. Miss Exquisite has started a business. Gobler plans stock market investing and can return to nursing. Andrew notes most high-risk plans fail.

Traditional women and lowering standards

Alexis discusses how her traditional girlfriends accept less from men. Panel debates whether women have standards too high or too low. Andrew and Malik discuss submission and female hypergamy charts.

Malik's tweets and male leadership / female submission

Brian reads Malik's tweets about men needing to be better leaders for women to submit. Andrew and Malik debate Orthodox Christian concept of wifely submission. Malik's tweet reviewed that police are corrupt.

Body count round

Brian asks everyone their body count. Madison: 8. Miss Exquisite: ~250. Gobler: 50-100. Annie: ~250 (counting both canals). Crow: 10. Malik: 1. Alexis: declines.

Transcript

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Brian Atlasliterally they're not going to know me I work what if it's like your number one fan it's your number your elderly my number one fan and what he's going he's going to look at you be like the

TTS/Donations[Music] go be honest what are your thoughts on middle seats basement story your face expression when you asked if she got into witchcraft after the incident made

Andrew Wilsonme curious about your brain it's surprising to me that somebody who happens to be a witch also

Andrew Wilsonhappened to run into a cult that happened to have group sex in the basement right I'm just saying these are lot of happenstances of coincidences

Crowthat's all well the that happened before for me becoming a witch but to be honest after that incident I really wasn't the

Crowsame anymore I mean it scared me it was demonic it was it scared satanic and I honestly I haven't been the same since it would I feel like it

Malikwould lead someone to light magic I also don't really like your approach on almost implying almost implying that it was like a punishment for her practicing witchcraft yeah you get there are

Andrew Wilsonpunishments for practicing witchcraft you agree right but just because something terrible happens to someone it doesn't mean I didn't say it did but you agree with me that there are punishments for people practicing witchcraft right and and there absolutely is I'm not going you agree right yes I agree well

Malikthen I don't know what you're complaining about okay I I just I don't know I don't think he's justifying no I didn't say he did it just I'm not even saying that one to one he the guy asked me what was going on in my mind I think it was a little messed

Andrew Wilsonup so he asked me what's going on in my mind so I verbalized what's going on in my mind it's very odd that all this cult activity is all going on around a single person just seems like maybe there's

Brian Atlasinter connections that's all I'm saying there very well could have been yeah so Tracy see Reas in the chat yes I would say I good to see you in the chat Tracy that just rubbed me the wrong way a little bit thank you Tracy that was very

Brian Atlasnice but I understand Tracy you didn't you didn't send a DM though Tracy you said you wanted to come on the show we're last on Sunday where you guys shoot us a DM and we'll get you on the show Tracy thank you appreciate it thank you so much for your patronage and

Brian Atlassupport the gobler your nurse one of your you know it's possible one of your patience elderly elderly

Brian Atlaspatience [ __ ] that was on your Twitter like and she saw he saw the some gobling okay then what what's the question do you so do you have any concerns you know because I feel like

Brian AtlasI'm an independent contractor so but but but like I feel like when it comes to nurses doctors lawyers politicians even that's maybe the politicians might be questionable you

Brian Atlaswant a certain level of decorum from your healthc care practitioners M but that's why I told you in the beginning why I do well right now Trac ontil

TTS/Donationsdonated $100 if something like this happened then wouldn't you find God instead of going into witchcraft find the light instead of going into darkness can't go

Crowon fiance didn't give his permission sorry well Tracy that I mean that's that's like what's in my head right well no and they're AB the Tracy on T Tracy

Crowthey're absolutely right but for my from my point of view like I said it was scariest thing I ever encountered in my

Crowlife yeah not not right doen do I think that I can go back to reading the Bible and not doing witchcraft anymore absolutely have I thought about that in the past

Annie Charlotteabsolutely it's just so how do I convince you huh so how do I convince you to do that keep talking to you man but isn't it like one of those issues where couldn't it also just completely have pushed her away from God completely

Annie Charlottebecause being put in that situation I get God tests people but that's a test and a half isn't it really well but she believes in Free Will if if we're going to if we're going to go on that kind of

Crowtalk real quick I mean God was merciless see that's oh okay well here let's let's continue on WE let's not linger too long on it so go ahead um about the nursing got to get back to

The Goblerthey got to get back to the goblin no no she's F she I was kidding no but you were asking about the the elderly how would I feel you want to know like cuz if he see me and he say hey I seen your

The Goblerwork I would be like okay thanks but I will keep it you know I can't I'm not going to go into detail while I'm at work of course what I'm saying like I'm just going to say oh thank you but then I probably would never go back to that

The Goblerfacility because now somebody in that facility knows who I am and they can you know yes so I would just go to a different one that's what an independent contractor does they go to different

Brian Atlasfacilities and they're not underneath nobody but yourself is there anything like CU I know in certain fields of work like if you're in education especially education with children or like even

Brian Atlaspolice officers if uh I've heard stories of when you know the because the image of the department or they'll get fired is there something like that like is

The Goblerthat that's why I said in policy if I was to go to a facility their policy is um if you are part of their establishment um you can't do online like certain stuff you can't even say

The Gobleronline you can't even take a picture in the facility and post it online type stuff so you know it's like okay if I was to be found out I just go somewhere

Brian Atlaselse because now I'm found out here you know you said also shifting gears ABS uh one time you got kidnapped by a jeweler that was high on Coke yeah he made this

The Goblerfor me right here oh my de gobler necklace but yeah um stands for the gobler I thought it was like don't Che so um yeah at first cuz we've uh

The Goblerseen I swear got to be satire I mean so uh basically what happened was we've been we've seen each other a few times before uh and it was never

The Goblerlike that I could have I should have been able to see the signs that he was like he he uses those kind of hard drugs but it was very clear was there speed talking going on yeah it was speed talking little B erectile dysfunction

The Goblerstuff like that P the size of the Death Star yeah so stuff like that so then this time he comes and pick me up from work and he first he calls me he like hey um I got some money for you come see me on your lunch break but I know like

The Goblerwhen I go drive with him he always drives for a long time but I told him I'm like we just have to stop right here you know stay right here no he still pulled pulls out starts driving around I'm like you really have to get me back cuz I have to finish my Med pass I can't

The Goblerbe in a car with you blah blah blah at this time there's no Coke present or anything like that it's just you know he's acting a little bit sporadic he gave me half the money at that time and he was like I'm going to wait out here

The Goblerand then when you come out of work cuz it was 5:00 and I got off at 7:30 he was like I'm going to come out you come out and come with me so I went back in mind you I had my Bluetooth and he could hear my whole conversation he could hear me

The Goblerpassing he heard me doing my um you know the turnover my nursing turnover he hurt everything so he knew that I actually was at a nursing job working when I get back out inside the car his pants is

The Goblerlike halfway down by his knees or whatever um he has Coke sprinkled down his chest in his hairs Coke in his little hairs there it's like Coke in the

The Goblerum the you know where you open the door at is a bag of coke like this big guys Oh I thought somebody was talking it's like a bag of coke and then he had a gun

The Goblerin the Middle holer Run [ __ ] run literally so now oh I forgot to tell y'all I had my car when when I got off I had my car and I parked it in a um Hotel

The Goblerparking lot and then got in his car with him so I didn't see this stuff before and my car is at a hotel parking lot so now the whole time we're driving in an area that's heavily where police at he's doing sporadic u-turns in the middle of

The Goblerthe street he's telling me like oh you trying to set me up like he's to the point where he think that guys are following us he picked me up from guys

The Goblerhouse he's in um I guess a Coke induced rage yes yes and he's like I heard it you were on the phone I heard you sucking dick in the background I mean sorry my God I heard you doing stuff in

The GoblerI heard you doing stuff in the background and uh I said what are you talking about you heard everything there's no way there's no way that that's what you heard so then he was like well just show me your video so now after that part left he remember y'all

The Goblerhe has the gun and he's trying to get me to to do that kind of stuff with him his p is down he's driving around and stuff and he's trying to get me to do this stuff so this whole time I have my phone on my GPS to where my car is we're only

The Gobler7 minutes away from my car the whole time he keeps just going around and around and stuff like this and I'm like you know what I keep telling him cuz we've been in the car for about 2 hours at this time I said I just want to get out the car just let me out you know

The Goblerplease it's been enough you know blah blah blah finally I seen the police we're like we getting close I seen the police I told him he was about to turn again I said if you do not turn I'm about to jump out in the middle of the street you're going to have more

The Goblerproblems you don't have no pants on you have a gun you have coat you're going to get in trouble so if you do not let me out you're about to get in trouble I'm about to jump out and instead of him turning he went back over and went to my car and then like one soon as we started

The Goblerhe started slowing down I opened up the car and like jumped out while the car was still going he didn't even stop he kept going so I had to kind of like jump out of a moving car or whatever but hey happy but that's part of yeah but it's

Brian Atlasjust crazy to me because I've seen him him so many times before so that was not expected at that time sure you know okay more notes here I'm going to try to get through I'm going to get through everybody's so you also and I think we actually already talked about this a

Brian Atlaslittle bit you said you'd like to speak on the expectations of dating while doing porn although I think we maybe already had a back and forth on that unless there was anything extra that you wanted to my only thing is they um most

The Goblerpeople expect that they think that we're out here looking for that kind of stuff you know we already relationships and stuff like they we already know how people think of us we get told of about this every single day we get told you

The Goblerknow we not this we're worthless we're this blah blah we get all this kind of stuff every single day so it's not the fact that we're out here looking you don't have to keep bashing it in our heads like don't date a porn don't that don't do that because y'all do it all

The Goblerday long you know what I'm saying like it's the truth though we hear it all day so it's like we us we're not looking for that we chilling maybe she is but you know nine times out of 10 if you're actually performing and you're doing

The Goblerthis it's we're not really running to try to look for relationships it's more so people coming to us begging us to be in relationships with them you know and it's the trth that I don't doubt that there's a lot of guys that uh perhaps

Brian Atlasthe guys who follow you on on only fans or just you know whatever social media single social media yeah they probably begging would be happy to date you and be in relationships with you I mean that's just the point you know

The Goblereverybody's not the same some people might find interest in one thing and you of course find it disgusting they don't though you

Brian Atlasknow that yeah sure yeah um I just think you know for for a guy who's maybe young getting into the dating game or a guy

Brian Atlaswho doesn't realize he can have standards or uh somebody it hasn't occurred to him that he can CU a lot of guys uh you know I think a lot of guys actually struggle when it comes to

Brian Atlasdating and they're so desperate to get into a relationship that they will accept suboptimal uh arrangements and Jackson donated

TTS/Donations$100 you don't want a husband but you want to smoke the meat of crackheads for money make it make sense please never said I didn't I never knew he was a

The Goblercrackhead until until I stopped talking to him so obviously I don't want to suck crackheads because I stopped talking to him when I had to jump out the car so that's the sense it makes is there a different like does crackhead penis

The Goblercrack crackheads and cokeheads is different two different things like let's be serious crackheads are in the hood literally on the corner of the street you know you like crackheads coke

The Goblerheads cuz let's be serious it's a lot of people in the industry who do Coke so it's a lot of people who you know you might laugh and stuff but a lot of people who are at the Grammys do Coke a lot of people who was at you know um the

The Goblerawards they all do Coke it's a it's a it's a drug for people who are rich it's AAL might be it's a you know what I'm saying so I don't do it no that's not my my cup of tea but Coke and crack like

The GoblerWhitney said yeah it's it's two different things which ones did she do she did both she did both she did she was cracker well I don't know she I know she said crack is whack

Brian Atlasthat's you also said my general thoughts is everyone makes dating so complex you should just go for who wh for whomever into the same thing you're into rather it be traditional or modern me myself I

Brian Atlasprefer the lifestyle the lifestyle or a stag yeah you want the guy to be a stag yeah he could be a stag or cuck I mean most of y'all call it a cuck so I'll just say cuck cuz wait Stag and cuck are interchangeable or I thought they're

The Goblerdifferent they kind of are I mean some guys like with being a c getting degraded Stags don't like being degraded

The Goblerthey more so feel like a power type of dynamic from it so a stag more so don't it's not like but they both enjoy

Brian Atlaswatching their partner okay all right other people and uh moving on over to miss exquisite

Brian Atlasexquisite uh you stated in your messages to us that you considered yourself moderate and traditional correct yes and so you what no no no not moderate and are you

Brian Atlassure you got that right yeah you said moderate and traditional and I'm focusing in here on the traditional so you said you're traditional no I don't think I you said it you said I'm pretty sure

Brian AtlasI said I was moderate on all on all St because let me pull Miss Exquisite let me just pull it up pull it up I'm pull it so okay so in the in our casting

Brian Atlasquestionnaire we ask do you consider yourself uh feminist and you state or no this was for number five we asked your political leanings you said you were

Miss Exquisitemoderate and traditional no you're from Virginia you said you said you were you said you were traditional maybe I did but I definitely didn't mean to put

Brian Atlastraditional I definitely mean to put mod totally derails I'm sorry I'm sorry so you're not traditional okay all there goes hours of

Miss ExquisiteReason sorry I'm sorry I definitely write okay you did write it because it's fine it's fine I don't know if you meant it but now you know where

Miss ExquisiteI'm going with this so you're walking back your no I really didn't mean just put moderate because I do have you know times where I feel like I can be

Miss Exquisitetraditional but at the same time I'm open to new ideas and new ways of going about things so that's why I said I'm moderate so in some ways you're traditional yeah in some ways I'm traditional in some ways I'm you know

Miss Exquisitewhat ways are the traditional ways it it depends on what we're talking about what talking about dating cuz I I was talking about dating yeah cuz I I thought that's how the questionnaire was kind of lined

Miss Exquisiteup so I thought we were talking about dating oh so you're tra dating you're traditional no dating dating I'm moderate like I have I can go traditional ways about dating but in other other ways I so generally you're

Miss Exquisitemoderate but there are some things that you are traditional about when it comes to dating right so what are those so like you know courting I feel like men should Court women like especially if you know you approach the woman you're

Miss Exquisitepursuing her I feel like men should Court their women take them on dates open the door for them and you know do things likey shivy

Miss Exquisiteum what I don't think as far as traditional is the whole like um like people date to immediately married I don't feel like that should be the thing

Miss ExquisiteI feel like you should take your time when it comes to dating especially because you know you can know somebody for 5 years 10 years 15 years you still don't know them you know what I'm saying so I feel like a lot of people you think

Miss Exquisiteyou should sleep with someone before you marry them yeah I do because who wants to marry marry somebody you don't know if the sex is going to be good well I mean that's something which can become

Miss Exquisitegood it could but I feel like if you realize the the the flaws of where it already is messed up you could kind of determine or you know whether or not you want to continue to deal with that

Miss Exquisiteperson sexually I don't know it's different for everybody but me personally if I feel like you can't give oral good now I don't think I'm going to

Andrew Wilsonbe able to teach you cuz it's just something the experience of the person who's marrying the other person they would be equally yolked in that experience no not really it depends well I mean if they're

Andrew Wilsonboth virgins they're equally y Well yeah if they're both virgins you didn't say that yeah but it's implied because if you're saying should people get sex have sex before they get married there's an implication there that they're not

Miss Exquisitehaving sex right so then the question the question is I mean it's kind of important though right it is important but I do feel like you should have sex before you just

Miss Exquisitedecide to marry someone that's just my personal opinion um cuz what if the chemistry isn't there either like you say you can teach chemistry must be there if you're getting married sexual chemistry and like

Andrew Wilsonemotional chemistry can be a bit different yeah but you can wait a second this so weird because you told me what if you meet a chick and Dream Weaver

Andrew Wilsonplaying in the background and you know she's the one just by looking at her now how would we ever know unless the guy came into both your vaginas right like how the [ __ ] would you know you can just have a cute little me

Annie Charlottecute moment it's like let me have my moment I'm just saying it's always Shing your feminist around here no it's that's not it's just like there's a difference between like the chemistry you get when

Annie Charlotteyou look somebody in the eyes and you're like oh yeah I want to well is it Weaver and they're the one or do they got to or they got to have sex first and then there's like the butterfly moments but then they have to collide at some point

Andrew Wilsonyou but then sometimes you can't actually Mar don't you feel like the person who you're having the butterfly moments with who your way into the sex is going to be good no that's how you feel but it's not always like that

Annie Charlottethat's the thing and the person that you have this great like sexual chemistry with might not be somebody you can actually date like they're yeah so they're like interchangeable so now feelings don't

Andrew Wilsonmatter right now there's an objective standard must be met before we get to anything else I mean that's just my opinion I can't speak for anyone else

Brian Atlashere okay well okay so you said that you are traditional in some ways when it comes to dating for example you want shivy from a guy right which is rather

Miss Exquisitetraditional you said you wanted say it again you wanted what like doors open paying for first AIDS mhm in your own words though yeah I said open

Miss Exquisiteindoors uh uh planning first dates or treating treating people out to First Dates um you know getting to know that person on a more intimate level okay so

Brian Atlascouple follow-ups here so actually really quick just around the table to get everyone involved in this um who should pay for the first date a man a man

Crowwhoever whoever got the money whoever got the money yeah CU sometimes I I would don't mind P sure that's fine I think you ever insinuated the date whoever start the date okay um I think

Malikthe guy should first and then on a second date the girl should okay um I think either 5050 or whoever insinuated it um whenever I go with guys I always offer to pay um but if they are adamant

Brian Atlasabout no I'm man I have to pay I'm not going to argue the guy okay and ju just going back to I think it was you and you who said well whoever asked should pay um do

Brian Atlasyou ask have you ever asked a guy out yeah yeah on the date have you ever asked a guy out and You' You' paid okay not just for your half but you paid for the whole thing I took a guy to the

Brian Atlasspere the other day Okay was it fine it was so good so going around the table again though if the guy didn't pay for the first date say like perhaps going in

Brian Atlasyou didn't know and he proposed to split the bill uh would there be a second date um no yes yes

Alexis Wilkinsyes yes yes no because and I feel because everyone said yes so quickly right because I was going to explain but it's okay so well tell my my no is because that's a

Alexis Wilkinssymptom of so many other things like I I'm I'm all for being people being Partners I think people are Partners in different ways and um in my opinion especially if we're talking about first date you know and it's like oh we have

Alexis Wilkinsto go 50/50 that's it's a symptom of other things it's not it it shouldn't be about the money it's not about the money it's it's a symptom of of of a lot of

Brian Atlascouple couple more follow-ups for everybody here um for those of you who said yes the guy should pay uh in marriage do you take your husband's last

Brian Atlasname yes absolutely I don't know if you I forgot who said say wasn't

Miss Exquisiteme I just don't want to be married so I don't question I quite like my surname um wait did you say yes mentioned no you said you said whoever insinuates not you well I mean some of you said

Brian Atlaswell yes I do ask but the whole like well whoever ask should pay is kind of arbitrary because men are overwhelmingly initiating first dat so it's kind of like men should pay I think if they got nice surname yeah maybe I'll double

Brian Atlasbarrel it otherwise okay so who else said yeah yes the guy should pay did you for the first date yeah for the first date uh in marriage will you take your husband's last name yeah I okay I don't

TTS/Donationsknow you don't know fact no I'd have to have that conversation why I'm so glad I'm not dating donated

TTS/Donations$100 Blacklist traditional if my memory is right in your lead role as the protagonist in The Hit movie staring Jason sta the mag I don't remember you

Brian Atlaswearing anything when you escaped the trench okay thank you I'm so glad I'm not dating thank you for your patronage man that guy has the best name Ever by

Brian Atlasthe way great name super solid uh wait so you're you said though you would split right yes so I also am against legal marriage legal marriage yes I don't

Malikbelieve that the government should have anything to do with a marriage I I believe that's between two people and God sure so a covenant marriage yeah theore so then you would take your husband's last name I'm not sure on that

Malikyet well I don't understand sorry you guys no you guys speak into my okay so you're Catholic no okay what's your omation I was raised Orthodox but I was say I'm non- denominational now yeah so then you're

Andrew Wilsontaking your husband's name right like I said that's a conversation that I would have to have with him I don't know at this time well if you're going to go to the Orthodox church for a covenant marriage with your crowns what's your

Malikspiritual father going to say as far as the taking the last name though I don't think to me personally I don't think it's that important but if it means a lot to him maybe I would take his name well he's the he's the head

Andrew Wilsonright that is true and if he says you're taking the name you're taking the name right I might I'm I'm not opposed you mean might I'm not opposed to it I don't get it I don't get the might here I just

Andrew Wilsonhe's the head yeah yes Orthodox marriage covenant marriage right so you get the marriage get your crowns get all that everything is great your husband says you're taking the name you just would okay then I would I like I said I'm not

Brian Atlasopposed to it it's just what what about you the question was would you take your husband's last name yeah okay all right um so okay going back to your traditional um you want you know

Brian Atlaschivalry you want for first a I regret stand I want to hear what you got to say okay so uh did a little uh we do research on everybody you do I mean you

Brian Atlaswere pretty clear that you have an only fans in your only fans we can't pull it up but it states where's my [ __ ] reading glasses for the [ __ ] hold

Brian Atlason you're a bisexual content creator you have uh 40 2 triple D titties 53in ass fat pretty [ __ ] and a wet mouth you do

Brian Atlasfulllength xxx videos explicit and nude all the time boy girl solo anal girl [ __ ] play BJ toys King fetish

Brian Atlasfriendly um on your Twitter there's videos of you nude and sing the D my dear you are not

Miss Exquisitetraditional oh I didn't say I currently was I said I said certain things about the dating

Brian AtlasWorld you'll be traditional the year 3000 the year 3000 you'll be traditional that's what goes on now you like traditional treatment from men but you're not a traditional woman no I'm

Brian Atlasnot a traditional woman but so I mean this is a problem that I see in the dating Marketplace if you're not a traditional woman I don't think you're deserving of traditional treatment but

Miss Exquisiteit's free [ __ ] right listen which you think I'm deserving of has nothing to do with what I do get see that's that's a good point that is actually no but that's that's a

Brian Atlasvery good point you make because I agree with you on your point despite you not being a traditional woman MH men are still yes going to give a non-traditional woman traditional

Brian Atlastreatment which I actually I object to but I knowled 100% that even the most modern non-traditional women

Brian Atlasstill somehow it's not no it's not even somehow it's evident that they still get traditional treatment from men because that is

Brian Atlaswhat I don't know some men are just men but my view they just treat people nicely now it's one but it is different though it's one thing for well you may

Brian Atlasstill get it but in the you know if if we're talking about well dating is not fair life's not fair it occurs to me that why are men still holding to their

Brian Atlasyou know why are men dolling out traditional treatment to non-traditional women that's my issue with it and and if it was your expectation and it's you

Brian Atlassaid there wouldn't be a second date if there wouldn't be a second date if the guy didn't pay for the for first date after he initiated so that's an expectation on your behalf that you have an expectation that men give you

Brian Atlastraditional treatment despite the fact that you yourself by your own admission are a modern non-traditional woman yes and I stand firmly on so how do you reconcile yourself not being a

Brian Atlastraditional woman but expecting and demanding traditional treatment from men because it's free [ __ ] right I mean yes in a in a in a sense it is free [ __ ]

Miss Exquisitenumber one but number two it's not that I demand it it's just what I what I want you know you know what I'm saying it's not a need it's a want that's what I want it's like everyone wants to be

Miss Exquisitetreated like a princess no matter what they do for a job I it doesn't matter if the job Mak you kind of answered your own question though too you said why do men do traditional things for

Brian Atlasnon-traditional women what do you think that they want well I think the there's a couple components here obviously there's some uh some societal and

Brian Atlascultural what's the right term for it uh leftovers there's still like a sort of

Brian Atlasscarcity it's not that but like if um if it's sort of like a competition pressure so if other men are going to give non-traditional women traditional

Brian Atlastreatment those women still have some reason to still expect it even though they're not deserving of it if men are still willing to give it despite

Brian Atlasthe absolute degradation of traditional Behavior on the on the woman's part well there's a dating pressure and a market pressure for the behavior on men's part to continue

Brian Atlasso like even if you are totally non-traditional as a woman but like you still like oh if he doesn't pay for me and like I'm not going to continue dating him and if like women there's

Brian Atlasenough women who have that who hold the line on even though I'm not traditional you still have to be a traditional and if a big enough cohort of non-traditional women hold that that

Brian Atlasline there's going to be a mating pressure on them to still continue to be traditional to give traditional treatment okay so no I I see where you're coming from yeah but I just feel

Miss Exquisitelike I don't know like like you said you don't feel like non-traditional women are deserving of it you know what I'm saying you're not deserving of it you hey good for you you still get it it's not that's what you

Miss Exquisitethink well I think I'm righteous on this position why well it just seems because I do torn I'm not deserving of traditional treatment well if I'm here's

Brian Atlasmy approach to it traditional women M ought to get traditional treatment traditional men ought to get traditional treatment it's just like equality is not

Brian Atlasreally a buffet like you get to pick and choose the the equality that benefits you the modernity that benefits you but oh let me hold on to these like I still want a guy to be chalous where when

Brian Atlasthere was a more traditional social order those things benefited benefited women mhm but now that we're not in a traditional social order we're in a modern social order uh but why does a

Brian Atlasjob makes somebody untraditional cuz like I'm not I'm not my job and I don't know why people doing forign is like H

Brian Atlashaving photos of yourself nude and like doing adult content with other men out there in public is like the one of the least traditional things

Alexis Wilkinsthat you could do no it's not porn's been around for as long as there's been new magaz oldest most like traditional you didn't say old historical like it's not an historical account of how old it is

TTS/Donationshe's Mike Davis donated $100 what's up big girl forget them Mike Davis will show you a life you didn't

TTS/Donationsknow existed I just got to F450 truck that accommodate your figure brand new heavy duty tires to how I slide in N MDM [Music]

Miss Exquisite[Applause] [Music] love M would you date a guy who owned 150 plus Burger Kings I mean yeah got M what you

Brian Atlasme come on Mike he owning them franchises I like that yeah he can I'm just gonna like wingman for Mike Davis here Mike Davis me and him go way back he actually saved me once from a bear oh

Brian Atlasmy gosh yeah it was crazy are you serious me and him were camping right like you guys think like you know I got black friends right um me and him were camping

Brian Atlasright and uh you know like [ __ ] you know the bear came we left some food out accidentally we left some

Brian AtlasCheetos and and uh uh what's having Cheetos camping Cheetos what type of camping do you do I you're having

Brian Atlasthere're pork rinds and Cheetos and it was a great great just me and him totally heterosexual platonic fun okay and bro you know listen we're Wilderness men

Brian Atlaswe're Wilderness men and and a [ __ ] I was pass the [ __ ] out right cuz those pork rinds really [ __ ] me up holy [ __ ] that [ __ ] computer came out of nowhere so he sa bro the bear he [ __ ]

Brian Atlasbusted out some bear spray sprayed that [ __ ] I call Cap no this happened this totally happened oh he bar it yeah so if like one of the big things women

Brian Atlaslook for in a man is the ability to protect protectors he will if you're ever [ __ ] camping with this guy he's the [ __ ] guy you want to be camping with he'll [ __ ] up a bear W Wing okay all right all Mike thank you Mike Davis

Brian Atlasappreciate it what were you talking about traditional being tradition traditional you're saying why does your job look it's not

Madisontraditional to is what do you mean you're not your job though you said that like the same way that the person I am at

Annie Charlottehome like when I'm not the twoo [ __ ] princess when I'm chilling and relaxing and having a nice time and not having to think about like

Annie Charlottehow I look on camera what people are going to think of me what I have to say they're not the same person she's actually kind of nice sometimes and like do you know like that's the person

Annie CharlotteI want to be loved and I want someone to love I don't give a toss what people think about the two [ __ ] princess yeah hate me love me I've got cool party trick I have two vaginas

Annie Charlottebut like the real person that what was like the person that I am outside of it because it's not all real that's the person that wants to be treated like a lady that wants a door held open for sorry that wants a door held open for

Annie Charlotteher that wants to be loved and wants a man to embrace her and make her feel special and do you think that you you had something go ahead I just I I I

Alexis Wilkinsguess I'm trying to reconcile how you commodify something and sell it and then it's something that does directly infringe into your personal life because I would say your body is your personal

Alexis Wilkinslife I mean it's like acting but but it's not like acting I mean it's act act I feel like acting is very different than what we're talking

Miss Exquisiteabout can I Chim in um I understand completely what she's saying and I just feel like society makes it hard for

Miss Exquisitepeople to differentiate between a person and their career or their job you know what I'm saying I get it but if you don't want to date someone who you know is a any other profession they had you

Annie Charlotteknow it's kind of like that's the hazard pay as someone might not you know it's I didn't say that I didn't say like I understand at the end of the day my job if they've got a problem with it they've got a problem with it and they don't

Annie Charlottehave to date me what I'm saying is that the two like like any Charlotte my life that I live that's not the girl I want people to love the girl I want people to

Annie Charlottetreat me right and make me feel special is the girl that isn't on camera but I these are not disconnected things what's Difficult about it in because they're two completely

Madisondifferent like it's like two completely different personalities but I mean like the qualities you have do play into the type of job that you get so it's like I

Andrew Wilsonmean I can't why I could have gone into something else I just wanted to go into this I could like I could have done a different job um I just find it

TTS/Donationshypocritical to want to have all the benefits of a traditional man will not I'm so glad him not dating donated $100 I am not my job Derek shoban should

Andrew Wilsonhave used the argument in court with your logic wow well I mean he's making a good point he's making a good point like you can't just disassociate yourself the person from the job the person is in the

Miss Exquisitejob they're still the person I don't think he made a good point at all because he was on duty when he did what he did yeah but he's still the person but are you not on on duty when you're

Malikmaking off content but that's not what she said though she said when she's not on camera when she's not doing content when she's not making I think everyone regardless of what you do for work it deserves love and deserves a loving

Malikpartner but I think it's unrealistic to expect to be treated in a traditional way while not caring yourself in a traditional way I just find that very hypocrit I I I don't dis like I disagree

Miss Exquisitewith your opinion because like we just talked about there are women who are untraditional and they still get traditional treatment so it's not unrealistic it's just rare but you even

Miss Exquisitestated you don't want long-term right I don't but doesn't mean that's not going to change right just because I don't want a long-term relationship doesn't mean I don't want a man to treat me with traditional treatment that doesn't mean I don't want a man to but there is

Alexis Wilkinssomething that gu that that that men if you're looking for a guy to treat you traditionally there is something that they're investing in they're investing in a relationship you know it is an investment hold on let me finish it's

TTS/Donationsreciprocal Mike Davis donated $100 Brian not gone lie we run that back I'm letting you get mold and I'm pulling out the popcorn too I like big girl BC

Miss Exquisitewe know she's a platinum Burger King C up she put spread in my pocket. gratitude sorry mik I hate to Brak it to you but I do not eat Burger King that is

Brian Atlasnot where I go Chick-fil-A and Wendy's get all my money baby what if it's oh that was such a banger comment though disgusting Burger King is disgusting

Miss Exquisiteokay please don't insult Mike Davis's I'm not insulting him I'm insing didn't he just buy you a truck he didn't buy it he didn't buy it oh okay if he

Brian Atlaslook uh in support but look I mean look doing like having nude photographs of yourself out there sleeping with other men for

Brian Atlaswork porn it's not traditional right we're not I'm not disag she's saying that there's well I'm I'm not saying that That's the basis of the conversation I really wanted her to finish her point though cuz she was

Alexis Wilkinsthere more oh you're right you're right go ahead continue continue yeah it it I was just saying that it building up to the point of there's something reciprocal in relationships and if you're looking for a traditional guy I promise you that

Alexis Wilkinsthat reciprocity and what they're investing into in time and money in paying for a date in you know it's it's it's all reciprocal and it's different if you're a non-traditional guy versus a

TTS/Donationstraditional guy what you think you're investing in versus TR donated $100 which girl I don't mean to be rude with my questions I am merely curious

TTS/Donationswith the choices you made and why I pray you find God in the meantime Don't Put a Spell on me please stay of you I I I just do light magic sweetheart I don't I

Alexis Wilkinsdon't do black magic all right thank you uh thank you Tracy uh go ahead with your point and and so P like where was I the reciprocity is kind of what I was getting to but really it's like every

Alexis Wilkinsyou know if if lovees what you want then loves go for it I guess the point here is it it it Chang ches what guys are willing to put into a relationship for people who are living traditionally and

Alexis Wilkinsnot going down nontraditional pass and that's not even a judgment on either one it just what it does is it creates an environment where all guys you know all guys are bad guys they don't want to put the effort in they don't want to pay for

TTS/Donationsthe first date you know I think that the nice guy Trope is is is is sad because I think that guys have a biological tendency trapped in the fets donated

TTS/Donations$16.69 cents what Alexis looks like a high school dropout fatherless alcoholic lowbudget stripper but I would still smash for show and hit from the back even toe the back shot when pry smell

Annie Charlottelike Sea World [ __ ] I don't think I understood

Brian Atlasthat I appreciate the Silence from everyone the Meg lives on they really like to interrupt you with the TS is did you have uh more you

Alexis Wilkinsdo well I feel like I need to wrap it up now cuz they're they're coming in yeah no it's really just that I I think stuff that I think of is how it actually affects like a traditional path and I feel as though guys you know even if

Alexis Wilkinsthey are looking for a traditional woman they look less they they I I feel as though they're less apt to put it you know put that value and put the time in if they think that it's just going to be turned into some short-term thing and

Annie Charlotteit's not going to be a long-term thing okay well so can I I I want to dive in on this real quick on the you hate

Andrew Wilsonme yes I I do but anyway so the I get it all the time all right so the how how does a guy disassociate like okay he wakes up in the morning and he pours his coffee and he's like I'm going to go to

Andrew Wilsonwork honey and you're like yeah I'm going to go [ __ ] dudes like how would he disassociate you the girl with the Dream Weaver you know in the background from

Andrew Wilsonthe you who goes and gets like you know double vagina hump during the day like how do you how do you get away from this I don't know haven't met

Annie Charlotteyet um and I hope I do like but the thing is not yet cuz I'm so not ready to settle down I'm like I'm in my like

Andrew Wilsontechnically Prime of my R I'm going to be can somebody just read it says I'm not my job I've heard so many 304s go on

Andrew Wilsonabout how they love being violated thrown around and used and as Rags don't fool yourself redhead okay thank you

Annie Charlottedon't fool yourself redhead I do like that yes um you who doesn't am I supposed to am I supposed to not want that I I personally don't like being violated but that's

Annie Charlottejust me oh not actually like sorry I don't mean like I want to be violated I mean in the sense in the bedroom you want me to read it Brian uh this is a no okay um I um yeah

Annie CharlotteI like to be throwing around in the bedroom but I also like to be why can't why can't things be separate like why can't I want a nice guy to like the

Annie Charlotteother me and do my job and then also have nice intimacy that sometimes can be rough and sometimes can be nice like you can like both I don't really

Andrew Wilsonunderstand why because I said because I do my job I I didn't really understand that comment what were they trying to say to me they're still they're still diving in on the disassociation so they're just saying how do I how does

Andrew Wilsonhow does anybody disassociate you from the from the fact that you say well this is just a job it's like okay I get it that you think of it as just a job but how do I

Andrew Wilsondisassociate you the person from what it is you do like the build he's Bob the Builder you're like girl the only fan you know but you get to know the actual

Annie Charlotteme because obviously the online personality that I have isn't the real me like the the homie that like goes on

Annie Charlottedog walks every day and loves my mom unconditionally and cries all the time sometimes but those are all aspects of you yeah that I don't show online yeah but those other things are also aspects of

Annie Charlotteyou yes but they're two different separate like the one is they're not separate they're both you well they they are though because when you get into this kind of industry

Annie Charlotteit's it's not like you put your full self out there there is a second there is a second you have to you have to have a second skin being online is so hard you have to take all the like mean

Annie Charlottecomments all the everything nobody else is having sex but you right it's you you're have two so technically one can do that the other one doesn't have

Miss Exquisiteto then maybe yeah I'm just saying it's you and then it's also you it's still you yeah I can I I see what I I see where you're going with it and I

Miss Exquisiteunderstand but I think what she's trying to say is that when we log on or when we make our videos and things like that it's a fantasy that we're selling so in our mind because this is a job this is

Miss Exquisitesomething that we're doing to get paid that's not all that we are you know what I'm saying to people out here that's what we are to them but you know when we have conversations like this we say yeah

Andrew Wilsonwe're not just that we're not just our job that's the point understand what you're saying there too you're saying look um there's other aspects of me besides just this type of sex work that I do right I get it but you also have to

Annie Charlotteown the fact that it's also you doing the sex work no yes age you I'm not I'm not disagreeing that I'm not disagreeing that I'm trying to ask a man to completely dissociate them but I am asking for like he's got to accept my

Annie Charlottejob at the end of the day it's not going to work out but I am asking for him not every time he look like I'm asking for the expect you get doing your job as you just said no one's going to love us no

Annie Charlotteone's going to respect us but I'm just saying the at home me that sits down and sits to a movie with my partner that she wants some respect she wants some love and that was all I was saying can I

The Goblerinterject but I mean it's the truth though a lot of these guys they don't um care what a [ __ ] has to say you know it's the truth like they don't care so even if you spill your

The Goblerguts when when they watch this they're going to be looking like shut your so it's like at the end of the I mean it's the truth though they don't care because we are the tainted meat and they

The Goblersee us as lower than you know I see people comments I read through a lot of stuff and they don't care that you want to be loved when you go home you know what I'm saying so at the end of the day you already have to come to that

Andrew Wilsonrealization and say I don't give a [ __ ] I feel like that's definitely true but isn't there motivation actually for reformation so say like the motivation of Shame is usually for reformation so

Andrew Wilsonthe motiv now there's just some people are just [ __ ] mean I agree right there's just some mean people out there absolutely but I think for the most part shame has a place in society is trying to reform people out of behavior that

Andrew Wilsonyou would prefer to not see right and so if the social shame always the stigma is towards the sex work isn't that a form of social Reformation see though what about the people who do want to see it I

The Goblermean y'all speaking on it everybody dislike it but there's not going to be yeah but they're trying to shame those people too they well but that stuff's been like since like to get on to the point of it's been since the of time moving on all

Brian Atlasright here well I do need to finish my thread on tradition but let me get some chats and Nickelodeon to the witch I've played D and D2 to the goblin no one would pay 40 let alone decent money to Contra contract STDs from that to

Brian AtlasBrian's lap dog I hope you know how to defend against magic who's the lap dog that's what you want to believe okay oh okay got it he speaks I thought I thought you only spoke Spanish dude what the

Brian Atlas[ __ ] he's by the way guys if you're curious this is a Chilean military un CH donated $100 thank youed I have to say it you

TTS/Donationssaid you can fake it for your job so keep in mind anything you say now knowing you can do that means you might always be full of [ __ ] am I

Annie Charlottewrong you said you could fake it oh yeah oh you want resp I I can did I I don't think I said I can fake it I didn't I

Annie Charlotteyou just said like you you act I act yes cuz obviously I can't lie the pizza man coming to my door doesn't always

Brian Atlashappen like it is acting everything is acting it's beautiful beautiful all right let me I'm okay we have GG here hey thank you man just to clarify I'm

Brian Atlasnot the one sleeping around during the separation he is won't that change the way he sees me should I trust his intentions looking for advice from someone other than my mom and we do have

Brian Atlasa TTS that is coming in here in just a sec uh won't that change the way he sees me I'm not I honestly feel like wait I'm

TTS/Donationsso glad not dating donated $100 redhe head I wish your father would have grabbed you when you were younger held you into his chest sternly

Annie Charlottewhispered in your ear you're going to be amazing when you grow up I love you how do you know her dad do that oh he didn't he just shoved tobacco in my mouth and made me chew it oh yeah he

Annie Charlottetold me I had to know what it tastes like so I could roll my man the perfect cigarette cuz apparently that's what traditional men used women used to do for their men according to my father do you know how to do that I do actually know how to roll a

Brian Atlascigarette okay uh so going back to the GG said it's like the one useful thing I'm not the one sleeping around during the separation he is won't that change wait so that's the one he's going to

Crowchange the way he sees you because he's sleeping around I um she see I'm assuming it's a girl um she seems like she has a ton of

Crowanxiety on how she's going to see him once the separation ends in my opinion if she's listening don't go back I think they were quoting what she said trying to

Brian Atlasmake sense of it oh I don't know if I interpreted that wrong well yeah she's oh no I was thinking sleeping around and she's he's wa who initiated the break

Brian Atlaswho initiated the break I think this is going back to the break question that he's the one that initiated the break and sleeping sleeping with with other people during a break separation with long-term knowing you'll be back

Brian Atlastogether okay well I want to know who initiated the break that would be helpful information but I mean if it's your husband doing it that comes down to you if you're on this break and you are

Brian Atlasokay with him doing that while you're on the break I mean he I think I think a man look uh well it's not really you guys are on a break according to you guys so I don't know it's not cheating I

Annie Charlotteguess but I think he can still love you even if he were to have slept with another woman so but you're defo right if he insinuated the break then that's messed

The Goblerup he's going to be I feel oh no I feel like he would you know might treat you different because what if he's more happier with that person and he starts to get a stronger connection or he

The Goblerenjoys this person a little bit more it might do come down to him treating you different and if you see that don't go back y'all on a break but if you go back and then you see the person is treating you differently from the beginning and it's below your standards then leave

Brian Atlasthat person alone don't be with somebody who makes you unhappy we have Aaron Chambers shout out from Tuscaloosa Alabama two questions big fan Andrew are you Christian because the alternative is disaster in modern society and ladies

Brian Atlaswho raid themselves 910 we do need help on defensive line I give you a 10 out of 10 for that job # Roll Tide okay yeah so so funny to answer that question no I'm

Andrew Wilsonnot a Christian because of that however there is a pragmatic side effect which happens because of that which is also nice but no that's not my uh my motivation behind it at all we have S

Brian AtlasMill here good episode Brian and no temptation to check out these girls only fans ww is that double it's win-win win-win okay yo SML thank you man

Brian Atlasappreciate your uh patronage thank you guys okay bringing it back here we have some tweets from Miss

TTS/DonationsExquisite stochastic Decay donated $100 hey brain sorry I'm late busy day I had some Chili's baby back RPS I read

TTS/Donationsabout how philosopher Pluto was a feminist had sex in front of my grandparents anyway Soldier blink if you need help oh

Brian Atlashe just walked off but he chuckled as he he chuckled as he walked he was blinking he was he was BL he doing good hey stochastic Decay thank you so much

Brian Atlasman good to see you in the chat thank you uh Nick can you make the tweets a little bigger um so mi Miss Exquisite we're going to have you read the tweets

Miss Exquisiteout in your voice okaye go ahead Nick can we please talk about how majority of you men don't know how to

Brian Atlaseat cats because I'm genuinely tired of the cap now the context for pulling up your tweets is because you said you like you're you're

Brian Atlastraditional you're traditional in dating so I want the viewers to like view listen to the Tweets in like and also have in the back of your head that she called herself traditional so you have

Brian Atlasthese say I was traditional I said I like Trad that's fair that's that's fair that's fair I you you like traditional dating so the these are the counter sort

Miss Exquisiteof like a dichotomy here let's he got you I did not expect this okay so again viewers in the back of your head she

Brian Atlaslikes traditional dating let's pull up her tweets

Miss Exquisitewhatever you got to read it I want you to read it I want to rise somebody's son's face and swallow his hole I hate it

Miss Exquisitehear it's very traditional I mean it it it can be traditional with the one that you really like

Andrew Wilson[Music] you I had a cou name the name is freak nasty yes

Miss Exquisitethat's my alter ego freak nasty pull it back up let's try to let's try to blast through these if we

Miss Exquisitecan good morning to all the men who stays hard after they nuts I hope you have an amazing day so traditional I'm just I'm just grateful

Miss Exquisitefor what people have I'm going be honest if I didn't have weed I would lose my entire [ __ ] [ __ ] out here man that's

Miss Exquisitea fact I can't lie that's one of my uh therapies okay hey is that a bad therapy where are the big dick men who

Miss Exquisitehave their passports and our travel ready and and that be your first date where they pay for that I mean yeah it's a good question it's a good question you going to take

Miss Exquisiteme out the country why not why would you not pay for that exatic the only thing I hate about this trip is that I didn't bring in e with me

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