02:48:20Brian AtlasI don't want to be in a situation where for example and this happens to a lot of dudes you go on a date with a girl spend $50 $100 maybe you get a nice dinner whatever and then date goes well she
02:48:33Brian Atlasgives you a hug at the end of the date date ends at 900 p.m. she then goes over oh bear in mind there's some leftover food so she got a doggy bag she took that doggy bag over to the guy's house
02:48:45Brian Atlaswho she's [ __ ] who by the way never paid for a first date never took her out he's just some hot dude who's always 11 p.m. on a Friday what you doing come over never had to do any of that
02:48:56Brian Atlastraditional courtship but he's really attractive he's a he's carismatic or whatever whatever is the traction trigger for her she just goes over to his house immediately after the date gives him the doggy the doggy bag of the
02:49:08Mukifood that your date just paid for you give him the food I know but why is this scenario always that the girl is like a hoe like there's guys that are hoes too but you're portraying this whole like oh the [ __ ] got a whole roster I mean it
02:49:21Chasegoes It goes the same way if you're if you're with a guy who's like a player girl invest into their date too like hold on hold on hold on if if you're with a guy who's a player and he's like sleeping around with a bunch of women but you're a woman who wants to be with
02:49:34Mukihim like you shouldn't offer him your exclusivity and your devotion and like like you said like he just said about how the guy doesn't know what the girl has going on the girls sometimes don't know what the guy has
02:49:46Mukiso ands put in a lot of work for their dates they get their hair done they get their makeup done they get their nails done well let me okay let me adjust so sorry I didn't mean to interrupt do you want to finish your point and I I'll
02:49:57Mukirespond I'm just like feeling a lot of like like why does the [ __ ] deserve like a date for me to I okay like why does the girl why does the woman deserve
02:50:09Mukito get paid for when like I don't really know what she has got going on like you time like will tell everything so the girls taking that chance too figuring out who the guy is right but there's the
02:50:20Brian Atlasdifference is is that on a date as a guy going in the the most that I can expect is to split the bill there's no there very few guys can go into a date with
02:50:31Brian Atlasthe expectation that she's going to pay for everything so it's specifically Rel it's it's not an equal dynamic in that sense in that men are either going to be paying for the entire meal or splitting
02:50:43Chasethe bill if you're traditional man you're the provider right and you're saying but you don't want to lay out that red carpet for the girl that's not what I'm saying if I if I take a girl that I really like out on a date I'm going to pay for the date but if I find out I mean if I I I wouldn't date a girl
02:50:56Chasethat was doing this anyways cuz I can just like but like if if I if if I took out a girl who was like talking to other guys and stuff and I could detect that there's 0% chance I would roll out the red carpet for her okay so but like if
02:51:10ChaseI'm getting to know a girl I'm still going to pay for the first date sometimes though there's been girls there's been girls that I've detected like a possible princess complex with and I've taken them to like very inexpensive places and then not paid for
02:51:22Chasetheir meal just to see how they would react that's a fun little test that you can do as a guy too but uh yeah it's like what Brian is saying look he has a different style like if he doesn't want to pay 50 bucks for a first date you
02:51:33Kaye Killianknow that's like his his preference if I really like a girl I'm going to do it much has that happened to you before where like the girl was like sleeping with is that why you think that
02:51:44Chaseor you just nous I mean thing is it's the modern it's the modern dating Marketplace like you take a girl out here in I Vista for examp cuz I would never do that it's it's like this there's a lot a lot of women who move
02:51:56Chaselike this you take you take a girl out here in Santa Barbara for example there's a pretty high chance that she's like talking to other guys yeah talking to multiple guys at the same time and the guys aren't or like it's not about whether or not the guys are the point is if you like a girl and you want to take
02:52:10Chaseher out around here there's a high chance that she's talking to other guys and if you know that she is it's like why would I roll out the red carpet for you if you're talking to these other guys completely F maybe she could be the one though yeah maybe so like just
02:52:23Genie Exomdepends on whether not your dice like depends on whether or not the guy wants to take that gamble you yeah exactly it's just like a chance situation wait why do you do the princess treatment thing why do I do the princess treatment
02:52:35Chasething you want them to like not be princessy so you like test them yeah I've for example there there was a girl that was a model that I took out like 8 years ago or something like that and she was like super sought after in the
02:52:47Chaseindustry and like fashion models often have like a lot of guys throwing themselves at them with a lot of money and I was like yo let's go to Chipotle I'm not going to pay for your meal let's just see how you respond and she was
02:52:59Chasetotally cool with it and she was super humble and down found out she's a good person yeah and I was like that and like I when I found that out I was like I would be down to really invest money in future dates you know cuz I was like I
02:53:10Kaye Killianreally like your character but if on the spot if she had been like are you kidding me I would have been like I feel like in this situation that we're coming up with though you would probably know that about a person if they're like
02:53:22Kaye Killiantalking to other people or like have that kind of attitude well if you're asking them on the first date you probably met them at some point people meet on dating apps that's true that's
02:53:32Brian Atlastrue I wouldn't you there's a lot of unassuming women who you might not think that they're seeing multiple people but they are and look guys move
02:53:45Chasein Shady can move in Shady ways too yeah it goes both ways like if you're a chick feel out the guy like don't yourself to a guy if he's not like going to commit but then that goes back to why you
02:53:55Brian Atlasshould just probably split it sure the check sure you can well you you were saying something about how women do a lot more to get ready for the
02:54:05Mukidate do did you want to elaborate invest I don't know I don't know if anybody can like no yeah I agree I see what you're saying guys they get a cut they take a shower no I would say I have a question
02:54:18Chasethough I've got got a lot to say about that go go on I've got a lot you guys do I would like to know what men prepare themselves for year see if a guy is
02:54:29Chaseasking listen listen if if a guy is asking a girl out on a date and she's she finds him attractive she finds him valuable He's Got Confidence he's got game all that kind of stuff and she says
02:54:40Chaseyes to going on the date with him he prepared himself to become become that kind of man for years in advance all you have to do as a woman is just show up to the put put on your makeup and just show up to the date the guy has to work on
02:54:53Chasehis career to be able to take you out to a nice dinner if you're into fit guys he's got to spend years in the gym working on his physique he's got to make something of himself so that he's successful and has confidence there's years of work that go into it beforehand
02:55:06Chaseit's not like the GU regular guys that just take like there's guys that don't have a crazy career there's guys that don't have a crazy body that ask girls dates so yeah for sure but if you want if if you're a guy who wants like a
02:55:18Chasereally high value very attractive woman like it's it's a different story you know and a woman like that is going to want to doll herself up and want the guy to pay for the date but there's work that goes into that I I have a question
02:55:29Mukithough kind of related to this so do women wear makeup for men no we do it for ourselves make but when it comes to
02:55:38Brian Atlasfeel pry so hold on so women don't wear makeup for men but men need to pay for First Dates because you wear makeup I didn't say but you don't do it for the
02:55:50Mukiman but he has to pay for it even though you don't do it for him we're not do I mean can anybody like do you wear makeup for men I would say yeah I wear Not Just
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02:56:23Kaye Killiancomment very good input bro go ahead I think I would be lying if I said I didn't wear makeup for men I would say I wear makeup to look pretty for other people so I mean yeah wearing makeup for
02:56:35Genie Exommen yeah I wear makeup for the men on mic please I wee makeup for all of you men is that a sarcastic comment dead
02:56:44Kaye Killianserious I got to cover up these under bags no but like generally speaking though when you wear makeup when you feel pretty you have a better day or like you know what I'm saying yeah I see
02:56:56Kaye Killianwhat you're saying also I do wear it for myself cuz I feel pretty but to say I don't wear it for other people to think I'm pretty I feel like that's yeah why I think both but what he was saying was
02:57:06Chasefor the date you well if I understood you guys correctly you're like yeah the guy should pay for the first date I'm putting on makeup and getting ready for I didn't say makeup I just said like
02:57:16Mukigirls also invest in themselves to you know look good for that date I'm not saying it's is it a different investment than then than they would make on a
02:57:27Mukidaily basis though do you do anything extra when you go on a date or like I would some girls buy outfits some girls like want to fix their I bought a new outfit I do not no that's on you I would
02:57:40Brian Atlassay I have how much how much does like a fraction of the do you like get ready for a date just like what I would do if I was going to meet like you're way too far from the mic has that been the case
02:57:50Priyathe entire show no it's okay go ahead U no just anything that I would do if I were meeting some friends for dinner or something of that sort if I was going to a business meeting I do the
02:58:03Priyaexact same thing so yeah I I do put effort I do put effort into my appearance I'm not denying that but I don't do anything different on like I don't buy things specifically for
02:58:13Priyathe the date I already have the things that I use the material items that I would use for that date I already have them I don't buy them specifically most women do buy stuff though I think you do
02:58:25Brian Atlasmore to yourself than you would sitting at home alone yeah yeah yeah and like going out to the grocery store or something but I mean if you were going to work or going to class or meeting up with your girlfriends or something would
02:58:37Brian Atlasyou I think it would still be more for most women I do more for a date than friends or work or whatever what if I told you as a guy me personally I detest makeup maybe a little bit of eyeliner is
02:58:48Brian Atlasfine I don't like women who wear makeup if I said you know what you can have a pass you don't have to wear make and I've actually done this I've said you know what don't wear you don't need to wear makeup with me I don't give a [ __ ]
02:58:59Genie Exomum I wouldn't wear makeup yeah I my wear makeup don't bother wearing makeup I don't don't wear perfum I don't like perfume either I would perfume I would
02:59:08Brian Atlasdo it wait I have a question for you though uh if let's say conceivably the guy spent more money on his appearance in some way than the woman should should the woman now pay for the first date
02:59:22Brian Atlaslike let's say I you know I did something special crazy like a talk or should should the woman now pay for the date if I spent more money I mean if getting ready what if it's like think
02:59:33Brian Atlasokay here's the scenario metrosexual dude who's like gets his [ __ ] eyebrows down and [ __ ] gets a brand new fresh [ __ ] haircut um exfoliates I
02:59:43Brian Atlasdon't know what the [ __ ] these guys are doing versus like a spiritual chick who's kind of like spiritual and doesn't wear makeup doesn't shave her armpits she doesn't put a lot of she no
02:59:56Mukideodorant they're two different people I don't know say they like each other who should pay I mean isn't the guy always
03:00:04Chaseum sorry isn't the guy usually usually what um like pursuing I mean this guy's metosexual and she's crunchy she's pursuing him she crun oh my gosh then if
03:00:16Mukishe asked him on the date then yeah she should pay I feel like again you can kind of read The Vibes before this even happens do you think women wear makeup for men I think women wear makeup to fit
03:00:26Juliein with other women but you some women were make up to look good for men it's like a you know like a bird with colorful feathers it's kind of like to attract a me it's just I think what do
03:00:40Brian Atlasyou guys think about this what if we just totally got rid of makeup so that you you wouldn't have to compete with other women so it would just lower because I feel like it's a game of almost one-upsmanship it's a competition
03:00:51Brian Atlaslike oh other women are wearing it so now I need to like out of necessity I must also be on this in the trend in the same way with uh sports right you have these athletes who will start doing
03:01:03Brian Atlassteroids now all the other athletes feel like in order to compete I too must now do steroids so when you think about that [ __ ] I would be down for the no makeup like honestly get rid of [ __ ] makeup
03:01:16Kaye Killianif you would have texted us and been like I don't want makeup on the podcast I honestly would have been fine with it okay I never make for this show Maddie donated
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03:01:36TTS Readercomplete submission before marriage is it even right God talks about submission in the context of a marriage no panels thoughts uh I'll take this first no it's
03:01:48Chasenot right for a boyfriend to expect complete submission for a from a woman uh complete submission is something biblically speaking that is exclusively reserved for marriage if you have a boyfriend who's expecting complete
03:02:01TTS Readersubmission from he's referencing the Bible That's not the $99 women wearing makeup is equivalent to a man renting a Lamborghini both are temporary give a false sent of
03:02:13Brian Atlasconfidence and are used to attract the opposite gender okay I like that that's a that's a pretty decent one I think when it comes to the whole makeup thing I think you kind of have to pick a lane though so women constantly say that they
03:02:25Brian Atlasdon't wear makeup for men they don't do the various things that they do to to improve their physical appearance they don't do it for men but frequently use these things that they do to improve their appearance or when it comes to
03:02:37Brian Atlaswearing makeup as pretext as she just did for justifying why men should pay for First Dates so I feel like you got to pick a lan either women don't wear makeup for men or they
03:02:51Priyado Fair good talk okay um I think whether they're conscious of it or not they do yeah there's no question there there's there's a comparison that women put on each other and you might
03:03:02Priyabe you doing your makeup to look like a certain person that you aspire to to be or embody mhm like a lot of people choose celebrities that they may
03:03:13Priyasomewhat resemble and they they try and emulate that type of uh that type of look that they might have but ultimately is it is to one up other women so that you get attention from men yeah yeah I I
03:03:26Chasethis is like honestly a silly conversation to me I've noticed when when women hang out in groups alone not around other guys hairs up sweatpants on no makeup nothing like that they got in public makeup if there were no dudes
03:03:39Chasewhere they were going out in public they might wear a little bit but when there's dudes you know they they do all the work like it's it's just it's not a question I feel like you even said it at the end of your whole Spiel I was kind of I was like laughing to myself a little bit CU
03:03:51Chaseyou were like yeah you know like even if I'm hanging out with my girlfriends like you like we'll put on a little bit of makeup whatever and then at the end of it you I can't remember how you put it you were like you're like it's like a mating strategy you know like a like a peacock with its feathers you know it's
03:04:04Priyalike that's it is a mating strategy for the opposite sex or people aren't like conscious of it they do it subconsciously no but just because it's not it's not a conscious ction doesn't mean it's any less true yeah yeah a
03:04:16Brian Atlasman's face is his autobiography and a woman's face is her work of fiction that is a brutal quote okay that's
03:04:28ChaseC who is that from what that's a brutal what do you mean it's true Brut true what does your autobiography say about you Brian yeah you what do you mean my autobiograph you said a man's face is
03:04:40Brian Atlashis autobiography what does your autobiography say about you I broke my nose in J in in the [ __ ] junior varsity wrestling in high school is that a true
03:04:54Brian Atlasstory yeah I I don't know um you don't you don't know whether a part of your biography is a true story no that's a true story oh that is you weren so sure
03:05:05Brian Atlassecond AG I was I was in on the JV wrestling Squad [ __ ] high school what what an ACH and I broke my nose um good talk uh nice what really I I want to move on from the
03:05:15Brian Atlasmakeup thing but one last thing related to this do you guys would you guys object actually wait hold on before I ask this question going around the table um how tall are you and then do you have related to what you said do you have a
03:05:28Kaye Killianheight preference when it comes to men like maybe what's your height and then bare Min bare minimum go ahead um I'm
03:05:35Genie Exom5'7 and just taller than me I prefer so 5'8 it's cool okay um I'm 5'6 and I think like 5'8 taller than me sure I'm
03:05:47Julielike almost 5'7 and I think just as long as they're like as tall as me it's fine how tall is your question hold on how tall is your current boyfriend um I think he's six foot six
03:05:59Chasefeet okay what about you she doesn't have a boyfriend 5 S I think oh okay what about you I'm 5'4 yeah and you said
03:06:08Chaseshe said she likes dudes 511 over have to be circumcised 51 or taller no older than 28 or 29 depending on personality right sure what about you um I'm 5'7 I
03:06:21Karina Hammondused to always want way taller but my boyfriend now is 58 and I don't mind it okay so you have that six foot
03:06:29Mukienergy taller than that energy okay 5'7 just taller than me how tall is your
03:06:38Jessica Kirbyboyfriend probably like 5 11 six okay um I'm like 55 and just taller than me is fine all right there's a lot of cap stop the cap there's a lot of cap prio what
03:06:49Priyaabout you um I'm five8 I prefer men to be taller than me but I have dated the majority of men that I've dated have actually been the same height as me okay all right well how tall did you
03:07:00Brian Atlassay you were 58 now I have a question here though related to the height thing so and and related to the makeup thing
03:07:08Brian Atlaswould you feel cheated if you went out on a date on it bio he said he was 6 feet only for you to find out that when he was on a date with you he was
03:07:20Kaye Killianactually wearing shoe inserts to make him 3 to four inches taller do you feel that that would be that's uh you know you be upset I wouldn't be upset I would be a little confused I feel like shoe
03:07:33Kaye Killianinserts you wouldn't you wouldn't get the I huh you wouldn't get the I but why would you be and why would I maybe get the I CU I would just be like confused about the situation but I wouldn't feel like cheated and are mad you'd be
03:07:45Kaye Killianconfused though why would you be confused or how um I just feel like I don't know I just I've never came across that so it just be different I guess but
03:07:55Brian Atlasyou do you do acknowledge that women care about men's height yes I do okay um so why would you be confused about a guy wanting to I would understand why's
03:08:07Juliedoing it but I would just be confused about the whole situation sure okay what about you I would not like it if he okay I'd like him to be like truthful
03:08:18Julieand i' maybe feel like kind of bad for him cuz that he feels that he has to do that to get a date you know okay I'll I'll go around the table go ahead is it
03:08:30Brian Atlasfor vanity or for a medical reason there's no [ __ ] there's no medical reason to wear shoe inserts I'm not talking about like Dr scholes Comfort like I'm talking shoe inserts to make
03:08:41Brian Atlashim three to four inches taller were you were listening right yeah okay so it's not for medical reasons no would you care no you
03:08:51Brian Atlaswouldn't care no you just said okay he's 5' 7 okay which is shorter than your preference of 511 he's wearing 4in shoe
03:09:01Brian Atlasinserts to make him 5'11 but he's actually 5'7 don't care I'd be like what's up with that but you I wouldn't hold it against him but he's no longer 5'11 he's 5'7 yeah he takes off his
03:09:13Chaseshoes and all of a sudden he's short yeah I'd be like what's up dude so you wouldn't care I'd ask why okay but would you care like he's like oh I wanted to appear taller would you care if he said I just wanted to appear
03:09:25Brian Atlastaller then I'd be like okay can you put your shoes back on he's not actually 5'11 though but okay what about you I'd rather him be honest but if he wants to be taller then
03:09:37Brian Atlasgo for it I'd probably call him out and then you'd call him out yeah yeah I just be like why how would you call him out here's okay you're on the date with a dude he's right he's sitting right here
03:09:49Brian Atlasand you're on the date he says he's six feet uhoh well I know you said height-wise is not a big thing for you in any case he's wearing four 4 in i' be
03:10:00Mukilike was that a typo like what's what's wrong with that bio or whatever I don't know I'd just be like what like why sure okay what about you I think I would just laugh but I'm sorry if you're insecure
03:10:13Brian Atlasabout your height insecure I see okay PRI what about you I mean I wouldn't appreciate the deception but I don't imagine myself being that so I see wouldn't appreciate the deception and just remind me what you said something interesting what what was your thing
03:10:26Julieagain I said that I'd feel like maybe pity for him that he feels like he even has to why does he have to do that because he thinks that that's what girls want I mean that is what girls want but okay so so he has to like change himself
03:10:39Brian AtlasI'm just curious why of all your answers that you provided that feeling that it made you feel to know that this guy misrepresented his height by wearing
03:10:49Brian Atlasthese shoe inserts why do you have to do that why do y'all do the [ __ ] you do when it comes to your appearance and I think it I don't know if it was you who
03:10:58Juliesaid insecure I are women insecure by wearing makeup a lot of the times yes yeah it's more of like an enhancer I'd say like to enhance your natural beauty so you're not secure with your normal
03:11:12Brian AtlasBeauty I didn't say I wasn't okay of course there's degrees to it yeah a lot of the times I well sure I don't think it necessarily indicates insecurity because a woman might recognize for some
03:11:24Brian Atlasutilitarian purpose for example especially if you're in the entertainment business that looking more physically attractive has some sort of benefit so I it doesn't necessarily indicate insecurity it could be used for
03:11:36Brian Atlasutilitarian purpose but you could still argue that you're despite that you're insecure but um let's a very specific situation but it is a very specific situation and I'd say most women who
03:11:46Brian Atlaswear makeup are not involved in the entertainment industry um so I just called y'all insecure for wearing makeup hello do you guys want to [ __ ] attack me hello you can't like
03:11:58Brian Atlasgeneralized though it's not that we're insecure it's just I think it's different for every type of girl us feel better about ourselves you feel lesser than right you said it makes you feel better about
03:12:12Brian Atlasyourself no that's the words that came out of your mouth why don't you just feel good about yourself without the need to paint your face I don't know people people treat you nicer if you're prettier and it's
03:12:25Priyajust it's like a strategy I do not think that is the case a lot well yes pretty priv is but like if you're talking just kindness no if you're talking about getting like getting stuff getting
03:12:37Kaye Killianthings yes your personality makes you prettier I would say it depends on the day also like there's days where I have no makeup on and I feel prettier than when I have makeup on so again that just goes back to like day byday bases like
03:12:50Kaye Killiansome days you're feeling really good some days you're not feeling as good and maybe to feel a little better that day cuz something else was bothering you you put on some makeup yeah yeah I just think this men never asked for any of
03:13:02Brian Atlasthe weird [ __ ] that we that y all do long nails long nails long eyelashes makeup some do though some pay for you to get that stuff done yeah that is pretty pretty rare though me and all my
03:13:14Brian Atlasfriends like I don't know about here but in Canada do you uh Chase do you prefer like a more what what like natural appearance without I prefer I prefer a naturally
03:13:26Chasebeautiful woman I do not like a lot of makeup on a woman if it's to the point where I can like it's obvious to me I'm like that's that's actually unattractive to me but I will say there are guys who do like that like there's definitely
03:13:38Kaye Killiangirls on only fans who have like that category where guys like that look like like the you know huge fake tits and like big lips it is
03:13:49Kaye Killiantrue there are guys a lot of makeup long nails I feel like that's like a sex k thing though it could be but some end up with that woman and they like that girl
03:14:00Kaye Killianthat they can buy the nice bags for the expensive shoes like they like a done up woman yeah all I know is if I go on a date with a girl and she looks like a drag queen on a date I'm like not down
03:14:11Candy Laneit's also taught to us from a very early age like you look at any magazine any any beauty magazine you look at Barbie you look at Bratz you look at any of the the toys they all got painted on makeup
03:14:23Candy Laneon them and it teaches us from a very young age that you have to look like that to be pretty down with Cosmo and then you know you guys will say oh well I like a natural woman when well why are
03:14:34Brian Atlasthey teaching us from a young age then that that's because it's a billion dollar profit the the Cosmetic industry is a billion ion dollar industry so we're all suckers and you want to punish
03:14:46Chaseus for it no we're not no we're we're literally sitting here telling you don't wear so much makeup like don't spend your money on this stuff don't that like that's not what we want most guys I've talked to like we want natural beauty I
03:14:58Chasetell this whole industry this industry that you're describing the whole thing is geared around making women feel insecure and like they're not good enough so they have to buy makeup so they have to buy implants you know get
03:15:09Chaseplastic surgery do all these things like I as a man sitting here telling you that's toxic like don't engage with that yeah a lot of men like real natural
03:15:19Chasebeauty hold on one second that I'm sorry but that natural beauty can be external but it can also be internal women can cultivate natural internal beauty and that is extremely attractive to a man
03:15:32Kaye Killianwell I think that also goes to the confidence thing how we said earlier like we like men with confidence like typically if you see a woman and she went to the club or a bar and she has no make makeup on and is just wearing jeans
03:15:43Kaye Killianyou're like holy [ __ ] that woman's like really confident in herself so I think like you're saying like it makes the woman more what did you have I do agree
03:15:52Mukibut um I feel like a lot of guys might think like oh this girl is natural and like they'll have botox or they'll have a little bit of lip filler and they won't even know or like guys on
03:16:05MukiInstagram will look at girls and they'll be like oh she's like not wearing any makeup little do they know like they're doing like a natural beat or something guys are a little bit clueless so then it's like well I'll tell you this if if
03:16:16Chasea woman gets like a little bit of that stuff done well it can be difficult to tell I mean it's still like I don't know it you can do it natur doesn't like sit right with me to know it but like a woman can get a little bit done and it's
03:16:28Chasedifficult for a guy to tell but when chicks get a lot of it done it's real easy to tell and it creates like it's like weird to look at of course yeah no people start looking weird I agree but
03:16:39Mukiit's like okay what if you have like okay I'm trying to think of a scenario what
03:16:46Mukiif you oh is this boring no no go ahead I'm trying to think like do more okay what
03:16:56Mukiif you got with a girl and you're like oh my God she's like all natural like um like I love her like she doesn't wear makeup and then like you find out later she's like oh yeah like I got my tits done like 5 years ago like they just
03:17:10Brian Atlaslike felt natural or something she's like oh yeah I've gotten Botox like I've gotten lip filler I've gotten like there's no such thing as natural feeling fake tits I've got a [ __ ] laser
03:17:20Brian Atlasvision for fake titties I know I know I just look boom [ __ ] brain does the calculations I mean you haven't seen every girl with the boot it's like boom [ __ ] boom like just like Gohan right there but what if you never know titties
03:17:33Mukifake titties huh I bet I could show you someone on Instagram like I don't I wouldn't want to cuz I don't wouldn't want to like put them on here but I don't think you would know doubt is removed once I feel the titties I can
03:17:45Mukitell I can watch a woman move and immediately be able to tell whether or not they're real okay F [ __ ] the tits [ __ ] the tits what if you're dating a girl I'm not big on titty [ __ ] saying and she not my favorite and she has had
03:17:58Mukiwork done and you just didn't know and you think that she's beautiful like she has a great smile great teeth like clear skin she's natural and then she's like oh I'm going for like my filler appointment and then you're like ew ew
03:18:10Mukiwhat the [ __ ] you're getting your like lips done she's like yeah I've gotten it done like twice before then you're like months honestly you're going to like her less you would not sit well with
03:18:20Chaseme so bad about it like if the girl like because I feel like I've explained this on previous podcasts I feel like I'm getting catfished as to who you actually are and on like a deep biological level
03:18:32Chaseit's like I want to know okay if I'm if I'm marrying a woman and we're going to create kids I want to know what are the materials I'm actually working with here and if I find out told you up front then and you still loved her as a person and
03:18:44Chaseyou still found her naturally beautiful even though it wasn't natural but it looked naturally beautiful that's that's a different that's a different story that's a different story but like to her question if like hiding it in a way yeah
03:18:56Chaselike if if if she like hit it hiding it like she said that she was going to her filler appointment you just never knew like well I'm I'm just telling you the Instinct I would have upon finding it out like something would like not sit right with her cuz it would just to be
03:19:08Chaseabout way she looked you're thinking about when I have kids with her when I do this it's not even like a conscious thought it's it's like a biological instinctual thing it's like oh what I see is not
03:19:20Chasewhat I'm so I can't meet with someone that has like plastic surgery like you guys look down on girls that have I'm not saying I look down on girls who surgery but it's it's I do a little bit it's not my prefence CH is a nicer guy
03:19:31Chasethan I am it's not my preference about like dentist work like how you guys what they called the veneers I mean I saw I saw a video on Tik Tok like a year ago
03:19:41TTS Readerof some ch chick who like had teeth and was like Raven DT Don is personally I am looking for a life partner I would not want a woman with fake breasts because
03:19:53TTS Readerthey increase her risk of breast cancer and they have to be redone every few years y risking your health to make yourself look like a Barbie doll is a well well put Raven That's a fantastic
03:20:04Chasepoint we talked about this on a previous podcast so health is your concern well no that's one concern there's a lot there's a lot of concerns and we're just talking personal preferences here as well okay yeah uh yeah women can get
03:20:16Chasebreast implants and they can cause like severe autoimmune reactions over time I got read all the stuff yeah okay yeah so you you've got that aspect of things but yeah for for me it's just like it's a personal preference not to have those
03:20:29Chasethings and like I said there's just like a biological instinctual thing that happens for me when okay but what about the te thing I'm just so curious there was this chick on Tik Tok who uh looked pretty rough before putting makeup on I
03:20:41Chaseknow what you're talking about looked pretty rough before putting makeup on had no teeth looked like a recovering math adct can you find the video Nick the the prompt you should type is
03:20:53Brian Atlashold on on she didn't just get you'll see the the prompt you should search for Nick is it's so gnarly like Tik Tok woman with no teeth makeup transformation it's so
03:21:05Chasegnarly I mean even even veneers like I I wouldn't be a fan of veneers like I'm I'm it's just it's like biological like my my DNA is like a freaking heat seeking missile for good genetics so I'm
03:21:17Kaye Killianjust like trying to figure out where is the line of like bettering yourself and then like bettering yourself too much getting
03:21:27Chasesurger this okay if a woman takes good care of herself she eats properly fit not just hygiene like exercises but also
03:21:37Chaseeats the proper foods to support a woman's nutritional needs a lot of women for example they like they way over stress their bodies jack up their cortisol it can make them gain weight
03:21:48Chaseputs the fat in the wrong place on the body that kind of gut health but also like women should like if a woman can eat in a certain pattern according to her ovulation cycle like a woman has
03:22:01Chasewomen have specific nutritional woman who knows her body who knows her body knows how to take care of it because women take care when when women take care of their bodies properly you can look so good it makes a woman look way healthier and more attractive taking
03:22:14Chasecare of yourself like that and exercising that goes way farther than a lot of this other stuff that's what I've always said not necessarily if you if you just buy the proper foods and eat them at the proper time exercise what
03:22:25Candy Laneyou say because they've basically ruined our food supply here in the United States you have to buy all organic yes I have I know what it takes it can be
03:22:37Brian Atlasextremely expensive meal honestly isn't that expensive part of the deal though in addition to what Chase has said about you know the potential impact on health
03:22:46Brian AtlasI think it's also can be an indicator of her values her personality um typically hyperfocus on one's own appearance to the point that you're going to spend
03:22:58Brian Atlasthousands of dollars and undergo not medically indicated dangerous and unnecessary cosmetic surgery can be proxy for one body dysmorphia that's
03:23:10Brian Atlasthen proxy for mental illness um I think most people don't want to date someone who is mentally ill so hyperfocus on one's own appearance
03:23:19Brian Atlasthat's excessive that's excessive vanity and just on its own excessive vanity is unattractive um now if it gets into the mental illness territory that's a whole
03:23:31Brian Atlasanother thing and yes I do think that women who spend thousands of dollars to mutilate their bodies and insert toxic materials into them for again not
03:23:41Chasemedically indicated purely cosmetic reasons are mentally ill it sounds crazy yeah um so I airgo I think it's a product of the illness of the modern world to be honest yes I don't put the
03:23:54TTS Readerentire blame on women because there's a lot of there's a lot of PR there's a lot of messaging there's a lot of messaging James donated $99 fixing teeth is completely different
03:24:06TTS Readerthan getting plastic surgery fixing your teeth a direct benefit to your health any type of invasive surgery that is not a direct benefit to you health is not only unattractive but should be illegal
03:24:19Brian Atlassure James I don't know what the percentage of people who get veneers if they're doing it for purely cosmetic reasons or if they have it's what it's cosme mostly cosmetic don't they have to grind down that's all they like
03:24:31TTS Readergrinded donated 99 wannabe it's obvious when you can't move you forehead and lips you've have 10 shots in your face or the chick next to to you has 10 lb of foundation
03:24:43Brian Atlassmeared on women tell each other men can't tell to make themselves feel better they're wrong based facts Nickelodean moisturizer so just my last
03:24:55Brian Atlasthing on this I do think yeah I think choosing to date someone who has plastic surgery is a suboptimal dating Choice go ahead yeah and so like for men well I
03:25:06TTS Readersuppose for women too but yeah cosmetic procedures my God $100 ladies what are your thoughts about
03:25:17TTS Readera man who would willingly have his leg bones broken and refused in order to lengthen his legs so he can be taller $80,000 for leg Ling surgery how would you feel about a man who would do that
03:25:29Chaseto himself it's a good question I'll get to what I was going to say after I think you guys should weigh in on that let's say a guy are you guys familiar with those surgeries yes okay let's say a guy
03:25:40Chasedoes that and he he's 6 feet tall but prior to that he was 5'10 yeah and you find out you date him for 6 months or something like that and then you find out that he got that surgery and you had a preference for tall guys but you find out he actually wasn't that tall would
03:25:54Kaye Killianthat change the way that you guys look at him me personally no okay I it honestly I wouldn't bat an eye at it it wouldn't bother me you're talking about the foot guy would that took off his
03:26:03Chaseshoes no this is like my you talking about the surgery one I mean I kind of want you to be taller so you you would you be less attracted if you found out that he got that surgery
03:26:16Julieor would you just I wouldn't be less attracted no okay what about you I think like back to the leg the shoe lift thing it's kind of like you know sad okay but
03:26:27Juliewould you be less attracted to him I think so because you know my kids wouldn't be tall or the height that he is okay exactly that's my point then we'll get them I'm going I'm going to
03:26:40Chasewe're going to move on from that I want to make the point that I wanted to make a few minutes ago cosmetic surgeries oftentimes overcompensation with makeup all of these different
03:26:50Chasethings it's an effort to enhance beauty or simulate beauty or put Beauty where it might not have otherwise been in your eyes the thing about women like met a lot of different women in my life met
03:27:03Chasesuper healthy women met very unhealthy women the healthiest women that I've met who took good care of themselves understood like they lived Healthy Lifestyles they had they cultivated a really strong and healthy sense of
03:27:14Chasefeminine energy within them those women glow and like they can wear no makeup and look like the most beautiful woman in the world and I think cosmetic surgeries and all these things are an
03:27:25Chaseeffort to simulate that without actually having that true inner beauty like I was talking about before within them you know and I I think I think they're all like Band-Aids for actually becoming a
03:27:37Kaye Killianhealthy and whole woman does that make sense I mean yeah I think when I was my disagree cuzz like I honestly feel really good about myself from getting my
03:27:47Kaye Killiansurgeries and you know I I feel like like okay so my what I was going to say about the whole like when you want to get married and you're having babies and like it like makes you get like the ick
03:27:59Kaye Killianor something CU you're like my children wouldn't be that way um to a point like you've already invested so much in this person and I would say you love this person MH like you would do anything for
03:28:08Kaye Killianthem like they're your person M so like for me it's like I don't care what this person has done to their body because I'm making a baby with my person yeah so
03:28:20Kaye Killianlike it honestly wouldn't affect me at all so like I just like I'm like do you feel the same way like if you got so invested with that person like I think it depends on what what the thing was if it was the one you know yeah I mean like
03:28:32Chaseif I was if I was like with a girl and I really loved her but then I found out that like she had veneers or something like that like I can't deny some a part of me would be like wo like something deeply biological would be like wo
03:28:44Chasewhat's you know what's going on here but you know for most cosmetic surgeries like you know girls come through this show and they've had a lot of work done and it's just immediately apparent and I'm like okay just I don't
03:28:55ChaseI don't like that yeah you know what I mean um but yeah I mean if you're really in love with a person like that that if you're really in love with someone that feeling of wanting to create children with them is going to come from that
03:29:08Kaye Killianlove that you have with them it's going to over plastic surgery like it's going to come like yeah like that would be so little at that point I feel like yeah I just I'm I'm the type of guy like plastic surgery for me like I can just I
03:29:19TTS Readerspot it and I'm like yeah you know but is that oh sh CM donated $99.99 yeah thank youan God gave them hair and they D God gave them nails and
03:29:32TTS Readerthey paint them God gave them faces and they use makeup God gave them a chest and they get surgery if God can't keep a woman happy then we cannot either you
03:29:42Chaseguys you want to know something really it from a from a a Christian perspective there's a book it's not in the Bible but it's referenced by authors throughout the Bible it's called The Book of Enoch
03:29:54Chaseand we're about to get esoteric for a moment in the Bible in Genesis 6 it says that these Fallen Angels came down and they visited humanity and in The Book of Enoch it talks about how these these Fallen Angels they were angels that rebelled against God and they gave
03:30:07ChaseHumanity all sorts of technologies that Humanity used to accelerate its own destruction one of the things that these like demonic forces gave mankind was makeup and knowledge of how women can
03:30:19Chaseuse makeup that was like a demonic thing that was introduced to humanity from a Christian perspective which is pretty fascinating what do you think what do you guys think about that the demons do not makeup is demonic what do think
03:30:30Brian Atlasabout word what do not add or take away from this word solid reference okay solid reference respect all right yeah I mean and with last thing on the plastic
03:30:41Brian Atlassurgery thing um because I think some women might say well would you rather have a girl like who's totally flat or a
03:30:51Brian Atlasgirl who has some fake titties and she's got perfect boobs now that she has fake titties uh me personally take any girl I don't care if she was totally flat or
03:31:02Brian Atlasmaybe one was bigger than the other whatever I'd prefer her however she was before getting the fake titties yeah then same thing with the the fake lips if she's got a small upper lip I'd
03:31:14Brian Atlasprefer her with the small upper lip as compared to a lip fillers BBL if she's got a petite bum flat bum whatever prefer that than a big giant [ __ ] BBL same with lipo she
03:31:27Brian Atlasgot a little belly fat that's prefer preferable to having the I've seen girl the Lipo belly it just doesn't look right like it's uncanny valley it just doesn't look right that's fact and then
03:31:38Brian Atlasthe last one labia plasty wait what's that sorry Chase it's when the some women who have
03:31:46Brian AtlasAudi labia they have large labia they will cut they will cut theia they'll cut the labia and that is deeply hurtful to
03:31:57Brian Atlasme I find that offensive Brian Brian likes the roast beef Brian Bri he likes the beef I like to refer butterfly wings butterfly do you think we'll ever make it through a show without you mentioning
03:32:07Chasethis Brian probably not it's his thing wow I'll pay for a first date I will pay for a first date what you guys need to know about Brian he likes 4 foot1 women with beef curtains that are
03:32:19Brian Atlasbuilt like fridges that's W well what happened to the where's the fridge thing I'm just thr I'm throwing that in there 411 large laia I don't like the meat
03:32:27Brian Atlasreferences I do prefer I but if she's got you like natural so it's just like whatever she's got you like what no he
03:32:38Brian Atlashas we all have our preferences will pay for the first date if she has do you need to show proof yeah do they need to show proof first pro what do you expect them to do I think women need to get
03:32:49Brian Atlasrevenge on men for all the dick piics that have been sent throughout the eons women women must start sending [ __ ] pics how people just stop sending
03:32:59Brian Atlaspictures what's your number that be I'll send one right now I'll go to the bathroom all
03:33:08Brian Atlasright up up it's okay ran I why do you like it like is it like do we have to talk about what is it
03:33:19Brian Atlaswhat do we spend five minutes talking about how much he loves it do we have to talk about what's the question what's the question is it more enticing does it like um kind of like grab around your
03:33:29Brian Atlasyou know lips that grip yeah lips that grip I think because what is it like tighter can we not do this to her shut
03:33:38Brian Atlasup look that grip those don't grip why is it disgusting pretty gross she she over here has a circumcision preference I have okay so if you have you feel about that wait that's a totally
03:33:51Brian Atlasdifferent I'm just wondering cuz you're like all about the natural so like would you allow to answer to your answer your nonse question I am against circumcision I'm against circumcision um it's
03:34:03Chasebiblical naale genital mutilation what does that mean um we need to end male genital mutilation like they advocating end female genital
03:34:13Brian Atlasmutilation in Africa 10,000 laia plasties a month or excuse me a year a year in the United States I wish I could reach out to those 10,000 women that are
03:34:24Brian Atlasstruggling I want to help you DMS are open uh you know do you know what I mean do you know what I mean like I it's so sad though that women feel compelled not with all this other plastic surgery [ __ ] but to mutilate
03:34:36Priyatheir own genitalia cuz they got a little extra skin down there do you want to know what would be a quick solve for the large majority of that no no adult content huh what that wouldn't if adult
03:34:48Brian Atlascontent didn't exist women probably wouldn't try to I mean there still be wom who that I don't know if that's it might help but I think I think eliminating
03:34:59Priyaadult content would fix a lot probably help but it was woman who like want that look women wouldn't have women sorry oh the video uh oh the video with the m let me do a couple chats because we're
03:35:13Brian Atlasthey're about to fall off and then we'll do the video yo F oh why is it not triggering hold on uh oops one sec guys oh [ __ ] that's going to trigger a couple times sorry about the typo earlier I rate myself a 34 on a good day my
03:35:26Brian Atlasfriends have told me in the past few weeks that I look better than that I struggle to look at myself in the mirror so I can agree hope everyone's having a good night hey F thank you very much man
03:35:36Brian Atlasappreciate it really nice all right we have seberg here oh [ __ ] hold on let me skip that it's probably going to trigger a couple times hold up oh no okay
03:35:48Brian Atlasseberg it's it's now scuffed hold on [ __ ] do you have the video we'll do the video while I fix this that's her she's done like a million of these so there's one in particular that's really oh here come
03:36:01Brian Atlasback come back come back back wait wearing makeup is kind of a way of lying to improve your place in the sexual Marketplace similar to a man taking out a bunch of debt to make himself look better than he is to improve his place
03:36:12Brian Atlasin the sexual Marketplace I don't think either will help create longlasting relationships that's facts very good point seberg very astute observation
03:36:22Brian Atlasgood sir okay we have last one here before we do the video monkey Brown I stopped dating long ago and this show proves my reason why now I have here
03:36:34Brian Atlaswait now I have here I'm a I'm a reed flag he's a reed flag he read okay red red flag to women I'm 45 single no kids and never married so am I red flag to
03:36:44Chasewomen to to woman and why uh what do you guys think if a dude's 45 and he has no kids and he's never been married is that a red flag is that a red flag go the table here just starting here around
03:36:55Kaye Killianyeah I would say so why no why I would I would it would be alert I mean I would definitely be like put back and get need to get to know him
03:37:07Julieokay no okay no he probably just never found like the right girl okay maybe maybe I used to think yes but now
03:37:18Mukiprobably not possibly why um I don't know kind of would would she said is like everyone has their own time that they're going to find their
03:37:29Mukiperson maybe they just never did and then maybe they just [ __ ] up too many times and they yeah I don't know no I would say that it's a yellow flag if I
03:37:40Priyawere in if I were dating that age range if I were presented with on paper somebody that was that had the exact same criteria but had been married before I would probably be more inclined to go out with somebody that had
03:37:52Priyapreviously been married because my first instinct as a woman is okay well you're 45 and never been married have you ever shown any sort of sign to committing to a woman a woman I I immediately think you probably haven't really grown up
03:38:05Chaseyeah to add on to that too uh just explaining female psychology for whoever it was that asked that question I think the reason why that would be a red flag to a woman beyond what she just said is
03:38:15Chaseit's going to subconsciously beg the questions why have you never had a relationship that's worked out for you before up until this point in your life like what what was wrong with you this is how I'm not saying that this there's something wrong with you but they're
03:38:27Chasegoing to think to themselves what was wrong with you to the point where nothing worked out like what [ __ ] do you have going on or did you have going on in your life to where things never worked out now that doesn't mean that you're like a bad person or you do have things wrong with with you like somebody
03:38:41Priyasaid maybe you've just never found True Love yeah it's just like that's that's like what's going to go off in their mind yeah absolutely that's why I yeah I would completely agree that's why I kind of call it a yellow flag and not a red flag but yeah like I said if I were
03:38:53Priyapresented with somebody on paper that had the exact same qualities but had been married and divorced before I'd probably go I'd probably go on a date sooner with the person with the divorce a I agree do you see that viral video
03:39:05Chasethat guy who's in his 30s who's a virgin and the guy asked him why are you still a virgin no I didn't see that one yeah it was pretty good there's a guy he uh he looked like fit dressed nicely one of those Street interviewers who asked
03:39:17Chasepeople questions and he this guy's like he asked him his body counts or like how many women he'd been with and he was like oh I'm a virgin and the guy was like okay why are you still a virgin at 30 years old and the guy was like look ever since I was a boy I've dreamed of
03:39:29Chasefinding a girl who had never been with any guys and I've wanted to save myself for my wife and I want to find a woman who saved herself for me and I've never found that woman yet so you know yeah but he was like he was a solid dude like
03:39:42Chasehe was a valuable guy otherwise it was a good video got it um oh the yeah we'll do it this is so wild
03:39:52Brian Atlasyeah go ahead this is so crazy oh mute the audio mute the
03:40:01Brian Atlasaudio okay just imagine there's some [ __ ] trap [ __ ] [ __ ] music oh wow that's scary
03:40:11Brian Atlaswait what you can keep do it one more time just yeah I got see that one more time czy I've seen the I mean she does a bunch of Tik toks but she'll do like putting on the makeup
03:40:24Chaseshe'll do the whole process this elicits like the most Primal feeling of disgust and like uncanny value in me but yeah that's a massive that was a good video that you found so did she she give veneers or
03:40:35Brian Atlasdoes she put teeth in well she she puts like this Dentures them in yeah she has she lost her teeth um that's a huge that's a huge difference um I got another
03:40:48Brian Atlasquestion of the girls here do you when it comes to the physicality of a guy do you prefer men who are muscular maybe not like super roided up bodybuilder but you prefer men who are
03:41:00Kaye Killianlike strong and muscular means you're healthy um around the table I I'm honestly a huge personality person my boyfriend before was super scrawny
03:41:10Kaye Killianskinny dude and my boyfriend now is fit and strong so I go either way sure I think I like a lot cuz that means you work out you take care of yourself I
03:41:22Candy Laneactually like lanky dudes I I could see that okay I actually love lanky dudes but I'm not opposed to a guy that's built just
03:41:32Candy Lanenot like bodybuilder built that's kind of an addiction I think what about you more on like the thinner I don't know my type's all over the place personality
03:41:45Brian Atlaswhat like as long as you're not like like 600 pounds or something that like but you don't find you don't find a guy with like who's got a strong athletic
03:41:55Brian Atlasphysique he doesn't have to be like some super like jacked dude but you don't find that like attractive yes I'm not
03:42:04Karina Hammondlike oh my God AB so hot like really no if anything do not have cuz then you're comfier to cuddle with if you don't I think girls say no I'm like ABS wow no I
03:42:18Chasefeel like I feel like girls never own up to this cuz they don't want to appear like shallow or like just driven by mean I'm totally shallow I'm like almost all women when they see like a built dude like on the beach they're like oh who's
03:42:32Genie Exomthat 100% I you have to be pretty it's a good point it's a good point question for you guys what's more important pretty face but like an like a fat body
03:42:43Julieor like on the girl yeah or like an you know a butterf face but like a hot body you know a hard body I wouldn't date either what's the L like what do you look at first at the beach what do I
03:42:56Chaselook at first at the beach if you're going to the beach for a girl are you looking at face or body well I mean like naturally my my eyes are just going to see her body first and like the shape of her body and stuff but I mean both are
03:43:08Chasegood but I but was if if I'm like I I go running on the beach here in Santa Barbara and like if I'm running down the beach and I see an attractive woman like the first thing I'm going to notice is her body cuz I can't see for me I look at the face first yeah well I mean it's even if a
03:43:21Brian Atlaswoman has like a really nice body if she doesn't have a nice face I'm just not I think for a Thousand-Year Dynasty face matters more than her body yeah you can change the body you can't change ugly that's true that's true I've seen I've seen some amazing unless you're rich
03:43:34Brian AtlasI've seen some amazing transformations of like super fat chicks women like amazing bodies ever seen a woman so [ __ ] beautiful that you're like if I
03:43:43Brian Atlaswere to have kids with her like that's a Thousand-Year Dynasty oh yeah yes when my me and my like I have sec if I were
03:43:52Julieto breed with her I have secured my [ __ ] like Generations worth I would hate if my K ugly how do you know that those traits won't be bred out though that is okay I'm not a geneticist so I
03:44:05Chasecould you have you have to raise raise your kids well to pick right right but sometimes them eat organic you have to you have to have to raise a eugenic family I pray they don't get my autism
03:44:16Julieyeah and that not autism in the 21st century autism is pretty uh pretty beneficial yeah I got a twinge of autism I got to admit oh yeah I can no but like I love it I have a lot
03:44:28Brian Atlasof people with like I'm not like formally diagnosed but it's kind of little brother I think he has I like autistic women sort
03:44:38Brian Atlasof autistic BF autistic GF why not there you go um so I think all the girls here come on you like like it's almost wait what about what
03:44:50Priyaabout you two preferences like I like at the muscular ones they're nice to look at okay I physical fitness is incredibly important to me I'm I'm physically fit I'm in the gym five days six days a week so that's important to me in my
03:45:03Brian Atlaslifestyle and I want someone to ulate that period based Right facts my my follow-up question to that is I feel like most of them were like ah give me a lanky guy but whatever my followup question is and this is the last thing
03:45:14Brian Atlason the makeup thing how would you feel if you saw this guy who like looked built you know but he was wearing you know like a long sleeve shirt or
03:45:22Brian Atlassomething you find out that this dude's been walking around in a muscle suit no taking photos in it and [ __ ] he takes it off at night oh my God you you wake up
03:45:35Genie Exomto his natural self well he's got to be a little bit skinny and to fit you know we can work with that well you see guess we be like give him a gym