ØnlyFans "Virgin" vs. Rollo Tomassi, Justin Waller, Mike Sartain | Dating Talk #72
Date: 2023-05-08
Duration: 4h 56m
Guests
Brian AtlasIdentified Speakers
SPEAKER_00Mixed panel(audience)
SPEAKER_01TTS/Donations(audience)
SPEAKER_02Rosie/Ali(guest)
SPEAKER_03Female guest (situationship)(guest)
SPEAKER_04Nev(guest)
SPEAKER_05Farha/Nikki/Kylie(guest)
SPEAKER_06Crew(audience)
SPEAKER_07Patrice O'Neal (clip)(audience)
SPEAKER_08Michael Sartain(guest)
SPEAKER_09Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_10Unidentified(audience)
SPEAKER_11Rollo Tomassi(guest)
SPEAKER_12Justin Waller(guest)
SPEAKER_13Kiki(host)
SPEAKER_14Aspen(guest)
Key Moments
00:05:36
IntroFarha introduces herself as a 24yo TikToker and OnlyFans creator; immediately followed by Nikki (18, warehouse).
00:07:48
IntroMichael Sartain enters as mystery guest, joking "I'm Mia Khalifa what's up" before revealing himself; age 45.
00:08:18
IntroJustin Waller introduces himself: construction, real estate, age 37. Keeps relationship status a "mystery."
00:08:27
IntroRollo Tomassi introduces himself: author of the Rational Male series, just turned 55, married 27 years (closed on both ends).
00:21:00
QuoteBrian announces show has reached 10,000+ concurrent viewers, a record for the Whatever podcast.
00:47:32
QuoteFarha reveals she is a virgin despite doing OnlyFans. Justin Waller responds with disbelief; Rollo connects it to hypergamy.
00:48:32
ControversyMichael Sartain asks Farha what kind of OnlyFans she does and presses on whether she has ever gotten close to sex; extended discussion of her virginity and pickiness.
00:59:36
ControversyRollo Tomassi and Farha debate hypergamy definition at length. Rollo argues it is biological/evolutionary; Farha argues the definition is being used inconsistently.
01:16:47
QuoteBrian asks girls to self-rate looks 1-10. Rosie says 5, Ali 7, Aspen 7, Kylie 7. Show is at record 10,000+ viewers during this segment.
02:18:12
QuoteMichael Sartain advises all single guests to volunteer at SPCA and soup kitchens as a strategy to meet empathetic, non-narcissistic partners.
03:38:20
QuoteBrian plays Patrice O'Neal "vagina train accident" clip. Avery/Kiki is first to respond: "blow jobs."
04:23:35
QuoteBrian attempts to set up Farha with Destiny (political streamer) who was in the live chat; Farha says they already live in the same city and she'd be open to a date arranged by Brian.
04:33:28
QuoteJustin Waller describes his War Room involvement: co-created with Andrew Tate, also involves Lou Barnett and "satorial shooter."
Topics Discussed
00:00:00
Introductions and show announcements
Brian Atlas introduces guests and co-host Kiki. Sponsor spot for MCFC 2 MMA event. Guests introduce name, age, occupation, and relationship status. Mystery male guest (Michael Sartain) revealed. Male guests: Justin Waller, Rollo Tomassi.
00:11:00
Aspen: six years single, dating standards, religion
Aspen discusses being single for six years with only one near-relationship. She is a conservative Christian ER nurse. Panel discusses her standards (must love The Office, go to church). Debate on whether she is too picky or intimidating.
00:46:40
OnlyFans virgin reveal: Farha
Farha reveals she does OnlyFans but is a virgin. Panel probes consistency of this position. Farha explains she debates men in her DMs and her content is non-pornographic. Justin Waller and Michael Sartain question whether she is actually a virgin. Rollo Tomassi connects this to hypergamy.
01:00:00
Hypergamy debate: Rollo Tomassi vs Farha
Extended debate on the definition and origins of hypergamy. Farha argues hypergamy is cultural or definitionally contested; Rollo argues it is biological and universal across 37 cultures. Michael Sartain cites evolutionary psychology studies on attraction and facial symmetry. Debate on whether selectiveness equals low body count.
01:30:00
Self-ratings round and objectivity of beauty
Brian asks panel to self-rate looks 1-10. Girls give: Rosie 5, Ali 7, Nev 6, Aspen 7, Kylie 7. Farha deflects. SPEAKER_00 guests give mixed answers. Debate erupts on whether beauty ratings are objective or subjective. Michael Sartain argues beauty is largely objective (symmetry, signs of youth). Show peaks at 10,000+ concurrent viewers.
01:48:20
Body count, double standards, and OnlyFans economics
Discussion of acceptable body count numbers. Farha debates whether body count = selectiveness. Justin Waller states he will not date a woman with 80+ bodies. Rollo explains evolutionary basis for asymmetric standards. Farha argues she does not conflate selectiveness with body count numbers.
02:20:00
Role models, broken homes, sex and relationships advice
Panel discusses role models. Rosie shares 7-month situationship backstory. Kiki reads superchat questions. Michael Sartain advises volunteering at SPCA/soup kitchens to meet empathetic partners. Discussion on whether men's actions matter more than words. Rollo: women talk, men do.
02:50:00
Dating while in the military, masculinity, and modern men
Discussion of dating military men (small percentage of Americans serve). Justin Waller and Rollo Tomassi debate the crisis in modern masculinity. Rollo argues traditional marriage is currently untenable for men due to imbalanced risk. Debate on polygamy/sharing high-value men. Justin Waller explains War Room involvement with Andrew Tate.
03:30:00
Patrice O'Neal clip and panel reactions
Brian plays Patrice O'Neal "train accident" clip asking what women would do to keep a man if they lost their vagina. Panel reacts. Avery says "blow jobs"; Aspen declines to answer fully. Discussion of what women uniquely bring to relationships beyond sex.
03:53:20
Destiny (streamer) discussion and payo Twitch raider
Brian investigates Destiny (political streamer) who sent superchat. Panel rates Destiny. Farha defends her polyamorous arrangement with Destiny. Justin Waller and Rollo Tomassi debate open relationships. Brian tries to set up Farha with Destiny. World of Warcraft streamer payo shown on screen; girls rate him.
04:20:00
Andrew Tate's War Room and closing remarks
Brian asks Justin Waller about War Room involvement. Justin describes it as co-created with Tate along with Lou Barnett and others. Closing shoutouts. Brian promotes Justin's YouTube channel and War Room.
Transcript
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02:58:39
Farha/Nikki/KylieI always knew that I would want that one day right like I would want to have be married to the perfect man of like my dreams per se that I would want to be with that I would want to raise my kids with me so I would never have that
02:58:49
Farha/Nikki/Kyliebecause I know that a man that I dream to have would not want a woman that is doing that so like that's that's kind of a little take on that and there's nothing that's what you want to do that's fine but then
02:59:02
Farha/Nikki/Kyliewe can't have them both it's just one of those things you can't have it both ways like you pick and choose if you'd rather have only fans and make all this money on only fans which girls do there's girls that make so much money to do it so if you want to do that and have that you can have that yeah and do it but
02:59:15
Michael Sartainjust know you're it's going to be a lot harder and you probably aren't going to be able to have this as well so I had a question for you earlier and I totally forgot about it till right now you said you you mentioned it's the only fans no uh for you mentioned only fans as a
02:59:28
Michael Sartaincareer path you said career path and you talked about a man taking away your career path I'm asking if you had gotten on the cover of Vogue if you had gotten on the cover of FHM if you had gotten on something else that didn't where you could make a salary over 200 000 500 000
02:59:41
Michael Sartaina year and you didn't have to have only fans would you still do only fans yeah I mean I was already making a decent salary just off Tick Tock sponsorship so only fans is an insane amount of money so you would you would still do only that because of them what I'm saying is it like you got gazelle Munchen type money you'd still want to
02:59:55
Farha/Nikki/Kyliedo only fans not necessarily like I don't think I could be bought like for instance like if someone offered me like 100 Mil for my Virginia I wouldn't do it right right so money isn't the money isn't answered yeah I would I would probably do it for 100 I'm not gonna lie can I ask the guys a question like I
03:00:08
Michael Sartainmean I know you guys spend more money you got only fans I don't think that's what he was saying no no what I'm saying what I'm saying is that is that you called it a career path does that make sense like being in construction is a career path like breaks it's not a career of like content creation right
03:00:20
Michael Sartainwell the overall but but we're not we're not worried about the tick tock part right the guy you're gonna marry is not super worried about the tick tock part it's this one part that they're going to have a little bit more concern about do you understand how my only question is I don't consider I consider media maybe a
03:00:33
Michael Sartaincareer path but only fans is not necessarily a career path does that make sense that's what I was confused when you were saying before a man would want to take me away from my career path and I and I think you're calling it a career path because it happens to be very
03:00:45
Michael Sartainlucrative for you but I don't think it's a career path I think if and maybe I'm wrong but what I felt like is if you were more respected as a traditional moment so if you weren't if you were more respected as a traditional model you might not want to do only fans
03:00:57
Farha/Nikki/Kyliethat's the only thing I'm asking a lot more I was more so saying that because he was saying if he met a girl who's on only fans he'd want to transfer her into his mission his framework so I was asking is the transferring because it's specifically only fans are just
03:01:09
Michael Sartainbecause that's what she's so completely three of us are in some way or another performance coaches and it doesn't really look good for us to be dating girls who are doing things I could see if a girl had like old photos from that were bikini shots or whatever maybe but
03:01:22
Michael Sartainlike anything beyond that if we're we're doing stuff with dildos girl girl [ __ ] I think it's going to be a little bit harder for us to explain as male Improvement coaches why our girlfriends are doing that does that make sense that's the reason why so from a business
03:01:33
Brian Atlassampling the Optics yeah Justin I know you wanted to come in and then after Justin goes guys give me a little space to get through some of the soup chats here and I'll try to get everyone caught up go ahead Justin I I think you nailed it so I don't really have a whole lot
03:01:45
Justin Wallermore to say okay I wouldn't I wouldn't make it let it stop me but I would shut it down and yes I would want her to be inside my frame not because it was only fans because it's a Family Mission it's a legacy you add something quick go ahead something quick I just wanted to
03:01:58
Nevsay that I think that having and only fans is further perpetuating the Hedonism that's destroying the country I wouldn't want to be a part of that personally this is why I use the word philosophy do
03:02:09
Nevyou have a quick response to her she she said that only fans is though okay yeah basically yeah she's affirming my point I said it's perpetuating the Hedonism that's destroying the country
03:02:21
Michael Sartainand it's really really giving people [ __ ] up is Andrew Here Andrew just showed up he's the mystery guest it wasn't married it's really Rooney in the way that
03:02:32
Brian Atlaspeople perceive relationships and [ __ ] again this is why delinity between preference and philosophy because usually people who believe that also believe that framework one question you said and uh we're gonna get to the soup chat so just guys let me get through all
03:02:45
Nevthese uh you wouldn't sell your virginity for 100 million nope yes the [ __ ] you would bro I would do something you sell your pictures
03:02:56
Farha/Nikki/Kyliewithin my comfort zone you don't know the comments if I do different types of content I could like you could cure malaria in Africa for 100 million dollars a book by
03:03:08
Rosie/Aliits coverage sex that's how it is
03:03:17
Farha/Nikki/KylieI'm saying what I do within my only fans is within my comfort level I didn't know how much I was going to make on day one I had to take that risk I can make a dollar I can make a million dollars this month right so it's within my comfort zone so there's all I can make I could 10x my
03:03:29
Rollo Tomassiprofit I know why she wouldn't do that because the guy who would pay a hundred million dollars for a [ __ ] for your virginity is not the guy you want to be
03:03:38
Brian Atlas[ __ ] [ __ ] for sure hey okay hold on shout out to Riyadh okay all right two questions for you guys so both of you do only fans um just how much you guys make
03:03:49
Brian Atlason only fans per month six figures five figures can you say can you say what percentage that's that's the same thing yeah but no I mean
03:04:00
Michael SartainRange Five figures six figures 50 50 km I don't disclose but I do pay any dollars in the highest tax bracket of like what 36 you ever get there
03:04:10
Brian AtlasI pay a lot of taxes 100 Mil you realize like that is set up your grandchildren Grant like what I'm saying that is just you don't have to work another day in your [ __ ] life
03:04:22
Michael SartainI've never considered that wow I could retirement that's not what you consider consider the social changes you could make with 100 million dollars that's what I'm saying let's say he's a premature ejaculator too so yeah that's a utility
03:04:34
Justin Wallerargument but like he's a premature ejaculator does that change anything like so it's quick you know I don't know I I would argue with this not even maybe the question to ask question to ask is the amount of money that you two girls are making are only fans is it worth
03:04:46
Justin Wallergiving up a family in a in love because any man that is worth this [ __ ] salt that you would even be attracted to wouldn't put up with it I can tell you right now and you my dear are a depreciating asset so there every day
03:04:59
Justin Wallerthat goes by you're going to be less and less beautiful and at some point there's going to be a history of you doing that as beautiful as you are you're stunning you're pretty girl but no man that is going to be in your league is going to put up with it and so the question is if you were truly in love and you had true
03:05:11
Justin Wallerdesire for a man that would put his foot down with you and tell you how it was going to be would you or would you not give up your only fans no I wouldn't same way if I wanted to really expand my data I'm not genuinely desire that man you would not be in love with that man good job because if you
03:05:24
Farha/Nikki/Kyliewere in love with that man you would you would shut it down and that day will come for you it'd probably be well why don't I put on a hijab because then I can find a man who actually reciprocates because Muslim men lower them any man that asks you to do it you say no to you're going to look at as a [ __ ] you
03:05:37
Justin Wallerwill not respect him and you will not love him any man that you look up to and respect you would quit doing it for and that day might not be today but it will come good luck if he reciprocates if he quits occasioning the strip club if he quits
03:05:48
Farha/Nikki/Kyliewatching porn she also make takes out initiative and I meet the love of my life sure
03:06:05
Justin Wallerenough to let go and that's what I appreciate about what you said earlier the first time I agree with you is a little bit earlier when you were like yes if I knew that I could be inside that frame and that's what I was saying about women hold on until they know the safe I I can respect a woman that'll
03:06:18
Justin Wallerhold on to she knows I don't have a problem with the making money thing even the only fast thing doesn't really bother me that bad I get it it's easy money and it's really good money but if he comes along it'd be hard for me to believe that any woman at this table
03:06:30
Justin Wallerwould not let go of only fans because once he's there he does take a certain amount of process it takes that it takes that man of course and that's why I believe in building men you don't build strong men despite women you build
03:06:42
Michael Sartainwith strong men for women hey let me say something the two of you are going to meet men and initially you're going to be very happy but the problem is there's something there's a reason why they picked you and not someone else who isn't doing I hate to say this because
03:06:55
Michael SartainI'm very mean but you can ask yourself why did this guy pick me and not someone who isn't doing only fans there is going to be a voice in the back of your head this is like why did this person pick me and when they could have had something
03:07:06
Michael Sartainwith less drama and less exposure and that voice is going to be in your head and then you're going to see what that thing is that you're gonna see what that that that [ __ ] in the armor is meet maybe he's a simp or maybe he does not know how to define boundaries or maybe
03:07:19
Michael Sartainhe keeps getting out of relationships because he's outrageously insecure or whatever the problem is it's not that you won't find a man both of you will definitely find men it's just the problem is when you do you're not going to be wholeheartedly willing to change
03:07:32
Michael Sartainmy religion and crawl over broken glass like the way Rolo describes with his wife genuine desire genuine desire you aren't going to have that genuine desire and 78 of divorces in the United States
03:07:43
Brian Atlasare initiated by women I got to jump in just because we do have to get some chats here um okay so we have uh Derek Man X here oh I think this one already came in glasses stopped talking
03:07:56
Brian Atlaslike you know men real men don't care how you feel or how you think it's not real we want what we want boom okay Derek man next I think that's Travis thank you Travis uh we hold on I have to
03:08:06
Brian Atlaswait until that one disappears we have Spencer Park who donated a hundred dollars thank you so much man I'm gonna start preemptively reading this after that one comes through Mia uh Mia look
03:08:19
Brian Atlasalike should go to law school and would be a one percent lawyer but the world isn't logical men and women are held to different standards what makes a woman valuable is different from men I can see how men would be intimidated by the way
03:08:30
Brian Atlasyou talk they're saying I'm a very masculine woman
03:08:39
Farha/Nikki/Kyliedo you have a response to Spencer Park no I mean we've already we've been building off the premise that men and women are different I don't think we're arguing that they're the same I was saying where are those differences relevant in terms of Body
03:08:51
Michael SartainCount when again we've proven that double virginity bodes the best marriages that was my point that's such an outlier statistic though right yeah it is not our statistic because there's so few double virgin marriages and also
03:09:03
Michael Sartainthe double virgin marriages tend to be like Amish people it tends to be people in like extremely austere uh relationship does that make sense most men and women do not get together in the United States as virgins when it happens
03:09:14
Michael Sartainthere tends to be other cultural reasons so it's really hard to say is this a uh if this is an outlier not a trend it's not a trend what the trend which you can see is a trend is if you look over
03:09:24
Michael Sartainthousands of thousands of people is men tend to not be super affected by their body count as far as their ability to stay in a marriage and women tend to be more affected by it for men it tends to be their options like for instance if
03:09:37
Michael Sartainyou happen to live next door to the Playboy Mansion you're more likely to stray for women its previous body the previous partners that cause them to be more likely to cheat and that's what men are afraid of on top of the fact that they have this innate evolutionary necessity to be with a woman who has a
03:09:49
Michael Sartainlittle body count so there's a cognitive reason and then also a subconscious reason and both of them are backed by science that's the problem is it a double standard [ __ ] yes it's a double standard nobody's arguing that it isn't but your question though is it moral I mean that's not something I mean it's
03:10:02
Michael Sartainnot moral that I can imagine no it's not that's just it's just the way it is the other thing is and I'm not again it's gonna sound like I'm making an excuse the average man like I said before has 17 times as much testosterone going through than a woman does imagine
03:10:15
Michael Sartainthe horniest you've ever been in your entire life multiply that by 17 and that's Tuesday for us and that's the reason again it's not I'm not trying to make an excuse but now you say this irrational level of horniness and then
03:10:27
Michael Sartainyou realize that testosterone not only regulates your um your libido but your assertiveness your aggressiveness your necessity to solve problems you're also your necessity to save your fellow man
03:10:39
Michael Sartainright your Bravada split throats and then whole babies all those things come from the same the same hormone that causes us to be outrageously horny compared to women compared to women I
03:10:51
Brian Atlasjust got to keep going uh Eric T thing for the 100 with any of the girls data 54 year old who throws charity events join Moa [Laughter] show of hands who would date a 54 year
03:11:05
Michael Sartainold man yeah okay all right got one yes sweet all right personality you're turning 54 right
03:11:15
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03:11:26
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03:11:39
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03:12:03
Kikiand then we have some super chats here we got to get caught up on we got that one here uh Avery go for it women also need to understand that the sexual organ of a woman does change with use it
03:12:14
Kikidoesn't feel as good and you never know so I didn't mean to press that actually you never know whose child it is a man's unit doesn't change and unless a woman sleeps with multiple dudes men know it
03:12:25
Michael Sartainis our child uh American virus is freedom thing for the hunt 100 I don't know if that's true which what he means is not by the sexual organ getting bigger he means by sexual origin and
03:12:36
Michael Sartainliterally changes when a zygote is formed inside of a cervix inside of the uterus sorry that that's what he means by it changes just say roasties dude just say roast yeah this argument that women become looser when they have more
03:12:49
Michael Sartainsex there's actually not but he said it doesn't feel as good isn't that I thought he was referring to that than loose [ __ ] oh yeah I thought sexual oranges yeah maybe maybe that's that's also it's harder for a woman to have an orgasm if she's had multiple partners I've seen some studies on that I'm not
03:13:00
Brian Atlasexactly sure all right we have Bebe demon 69 thank you for the 100 man appreciate it what male trades based on Darwin's natural selection could be most desirable to women in choosing a mate is
03:13:11
Brian Atlasthis who's this for is this the panel what military is based on Darwin's natural stuff hype
03:13:20
Michael Sartainand things that show basically women during different periods of time would choose the man who looked like he was most likely most capable of committing massive amounts of violence on her behalf to protect her and her children when you look at it from that standpoint
03:13:33
Michael Sartainthen it makes sense why she [ __ ] Brock the bartender who's six foot three of the [ __ ] quarterback of the football team that's the reason why it's not like these things didn't just happen like I said before my my number one frustration is that we have these generic
03:13:45
Michael Sartainconversations when Dr David Buss has written five books on this stuff when gadsat has written books on this stuff when Stephen Stewart Williams Cindy meston lead to cosmetes by the way PhD at right here at UC Santa Barbara one of
03:13:58
Michael Sartainthe leading evolutionary psychologists on the planet and we still listen to [ __ ] Dr Phil and we read books like the five love languages and the secret the answers are there read the [ __ ] answers the reason the real reason why me and Rolo work together is because
03:14:11
Michael Sartainhe's the only man on the planet that I know who reads as much on evolutionary psychology as I do the answers are there they've been there since the 1970s for some reason we choose to not read them and we still believe things like beauty is subjective it is not subjective these
03:14:23
Kikithings have been answered they've been answered since 1975. Matthew self think for the hundred Avery go ahead woman in the glasses is a smart woman I appreciate her fighting back on topics I just feel like she's just
03:14:35
Kikiarguing to argue to prove her intelligence she doesn't even take it in the opposite side of the argument she just wants to argue to argue your quick response that's not true I'm I stand for
03:14:47
Farha/Nikki/Kylieeverything I argue maybe I'm not doing a good enough job explaining it are those prescription by the way right now are those prescription glasses or yeah these are prescription there's no lenses in them do you want to
03:14:59
Brian Atlaspop them off I mean you don't you don't need them right it's all right she could do it well at least she's giving me like the best air over that request okay Speedy the unsilence Avery go ahead as a high value man who is also tall with a
03:15:12
Brian Atlaslow body count I would only marry a woman with a low body count word thank you thank you thank you for your preference yes thanks for the YouTube channel man really appreciate it we have Ivan Jr thanks for the hundred
03:15:25
Brian Atlasman sorry Brian there's a question to the panel have women lost trust to depend on man to the point they saw themselves on social media most relationships both have to work there are men who can support a woman judging
03:15:36
Brian Atlasus and expectations are killing dating pool and marriage word thank you I haven't appreciate it um is there a question here I have women lost trust to depend on the man to the point they sell themselves on social media this rhetorical question hello
03:15:48
Rollo Tomassiit's not because of that it's just an opportunity it's just opportunism is what it is it's I every pretty much every girl that I I talk to on every panel but pretty much every girl uh I
03:15:59
Rollo Tomassihave encountered when they come when it comes to wanting to get with a guy they don't want to give up their only fans they don't want to they don't want to stop advertising and the reason they do is because they've been taught over the
03:16:10
Rollo Tomassicourse of two generations to not to be distrustful of men to say that they're never going to be able to be the ones who are going to be able to take care of me when he comes up here and he says I'm going to be the one who's going to take care of you I'm going to take you to the
03:16:22
Rollo Tomassirestaurant I'm going to pay forward I'm gonna I am going to basically take care of your long-term security to hear that is shocking today right because women have this preconception that men are are
03:16:34
Rollo Tomassieither uh they're borderline abusers or they are incompetent like buffoons like Homer Simpson or Dr Huxtable or whatever you know uh sitcom dad that we we want to throw out there or they're incompetent they don't know how to drive
03:16:47
Rollo Tomassia stick shift they don't know how to change a tire they don't know how to tie a tie and so if those are your three options and that's what you think of as a masculine uh model or an ideal or
03:17:00
Rollo Tomassithat's that's your archetype in your head of course you're going to want to go to college go get your career get your money on point become the man that you wanted to marry because you can't trust no man to do what he just said
03:17:12
Rollo Tomassiwhich is I'm going to take care of business for you and yes I would absolutely agree with that assessment because women are fearful that they'll never find a guy and when we talk about like submission or I I think it's the
03:17:23
Rollo Tomassiwrong world I think I think we need to talk about uh deference to men's Authority but I think that it's uh it's more about the fact that women need long-term security longer than they have
03:17:34
Rollo Tomassithe ability to consolidate on that so if you've got 18 to 28 years old where you're in your Peak sexual market value years that's 10 years in a lifespan that might be what 90 years old so and you're
03:17:47
Rollo Tomassigoing to need long-term security far longer in your life than you are going to need it and that's why we sell women on this be independent I'm a strong independent woman from what independent of men that's where that comes from from
03:17:59
Michael Sartain1970s feminism is where that's funny yeah if if your argument is that men have fallen short because men are not asking in a masculine chivalrous way we agree with you we do not disagree with
03:18:12
Michael Sartainthat at all men have certainly fallen short that's the reason why the three of us are coaches that's we agree with you completely uh and in that in that happening it's it's even worse in that
03:18:23
Michael SartainGeneral Society is telling them to clearly do the opposite of what Justin Waller is saying like literally not only are we not being coached to be masculine we're being coached to not be masculine
03:18:35
Michael Sartainand thirdly we're being taught that it's borderline illegal for us to act in a masculine way there is uh you know interchange said it the best there's no there's no there's just masculinity there's no such thing as toxic masculinity talks people are toxic toxic
03:18:47
Michael Sartainpeople can be feminine or masculine toxicity is toxic masculinity again when you want someone to save you from a burning building you want a [ __ ] ton of masculinity it's not toxic then so
03:18:59
Michael Sartainthat's the issue it's like if you think things are bad you're correct they are bad if you think men have fallen short correct they have fallen short if you think 99 of men are simps which is kind of the ones on only fans who are subscribed to you guys you're correct we
03:19:12
Michael Sartainagree with you on that men need to step up as well and that's created the society that's why these shows are becoming these panel shows like this are becoming so outrageously [ __ ] popular because we're all seeing this happen at the same time by the way I want to say one other thing I don't think the
03:19:24
Michael SartainHedonism is the decay of uh Western Society I think it's a denial of science I think that's actually the decay of Western Society sorry to go off on that uh topic all right one thing uh so you brought up
03:19:40
Brian Atlasuh so go around the table on this who here has at any point in time had a Hof is yeah I have
03:19:50
Brian Atlasthe oven are you I've had a hole presently in it I'm not presently in it I assume not given your assertion that
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Mixed panelto like lead me into something like that it wasn't because I chose it was because what do you mean you didn't choose I mean I did choose but it was also a factor in of what happened before it it
03:20:19
Mixed panelwas actually rage and anger and revenge that fueled me to push me to be this whole face because I felt like I was getting back at the guy at that time of during my first hoe phase wait so but
03:20:31
Mixed panelthen that's typically why a lot of they're 18. how many whole faces do you think you're gonna have Baker's doesn't but it just happens to a lot of people where they invest so much
03:20:43
Mixed panelinto a relationship that either the guy leaves or the girl leaves and then there the one side will just be left broken and obviously without the side that was broken is filled with rage to do better
03:20:53
Mixed paneland or there's also another security and scenario if it was a female you know there's only two sides that you could choose either sleep with this homie to get revenge or
03:21:04
Mixed panelyou can work on yourself sit down really think like is this is it really possible for me to just you know get back at him or just feel like I just don't that
03:21:14
Brian Atlassounds like the Joker story arc hold on I want everyone to have a chance to answer this question go ahead I've been like have you had the whole
03:21:24
TTS/Donationsface no faces No zero phases partial health is no no hold on so for 800
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TTS/Donations200 Rip's in the chat it is the new Jerry Springer love it also question for the guys would you sell your booty hole on camera to go like the destroyer of
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TTS/Donationsthe 100 million dollars also need lie detectors for all guests so many people full of [ __ ] also bro UCSB Alum let's go
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Brian Atlaslet's go SoCal Surfer 805 thank you for the big 200 soup uh donation no I appreciate it um 100 Mil 100 million I'm good bro
03:22:05
Brian Atlasthanks that's a tough one I have more respect for myself than that uh no STDs right is the scenario like you yeah I guess that we know STDs no STDs
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Michael Sartain100 Mil Brown have to work another day in my [ __ ] it's not that bro I'll be like like you could get legislation passed for 100 million like you would change the world so you'd be gay for pay as
03:22:30
Michael Sartainwell no Miss disgusting twenty dollars is twenty dollars that's gross I would never do that that's gross you could change the world though you could change the world though you could change the world you could change the world um
03:22:43
Rosie/Aliso okay NoHo phase what about you has there been the whole phase not really I guess a partial partial Health phase what's a partial hopefully I just consider that talking to like a bunch of guys when you say a bunch of guys how many are we talking
03:22:56
Rosie/Aliabout four four okay I don't know but like not like talking I don't know like like sex no no no no no no no no that's why it's like dating them yeah like going out and just I don't know it wasn't really a whole face I just got
03:23:07
Mixed panelout of breakup and I was just dating so let me let me clarify it so a whole phase is what are we sleeping with them I'll tell you a letter finish I'll I'll clarify go ahead enough I just want closer to Mike I
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Nevthink people should take more accountability but me personally I have not had a whole face unless you count Discord where I E dated two guys at once which is honestly a [ __ ] joke double
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Aspenshifting but Haram oh Aspen uh no I my lot long relationship that I was in
03:23:42
AspenI was committed to him and so I think that maybe if I wouldn't have had that my story would be a little bit different but no I have not
03:23:55
Rollo Tomassino I've never had a whole face you're not you're not in it right now kind of related to the whole face no let me I I let me just to clarify your question um I hate that we call it the
03:24:07
Rollo Tomassiwhole phase again it was my second book in the timeline I put in here called the party years is what I called it and it's it's not because every girl turns into a raging [ __ ] you know during those 18 to 28 years old but that is when you are at
03:24:19
Rollo Tomassithe peak of your sexual marketability so for you to consolidate on a guy who's going to be a good long-term Prospect for you usually that happens right around 22 23 24 years old when you're at
03:24:31
Rollo Tomassithe peak of your sexual market value and the peak Agency for women so that's why the Epiphany phase I Peg that right around 29 30 31 years old it's not that women are going out and having actually
03:24:42
Rollo Tomassibecoming actual hoes it's just that that is the Span in a woman's life when she has the most potential to find the guy so it might be one or two guys but you're doing more dating during that period of your life than you will be for
03:24:54
Rollo Tomassithe rest of your life because of the marketability on the sexual Market place and on personal worth but later on in life so you've got a span of 10 years where you're advertising yourself where you're where you're out there where you're going to the clubs you're having
03:25:07
Rollo Tomassia good time you're being just regular college girls right so whether or not you're raging [ __ ] or you're not is it kind of immaterial that's why I hate calling it the whole phase I'd rather call it the party years because that's when women are they're most active
03:25:19
Mixed panelthen let me clarify then no I did not go through a fit for that a whole phase I did go through a party phase because you're 18 you're just coming into of course then but I do have like a certain of where I like I what I want I already
03:25:31
Mixed panelhave an idea of what I want and if that person fits that idea of what I want then I can go forward and process that relationship that's why I say there's a process before you know marriage so you're in a better position at 18 to 28.
03:25:44
Mixed paneland that's why I do agree with you then everyone does go through a little party phase
03:25:51
Brian Atlasis there musical chairs over here oh okay cool cool cool um here Walsh does that we have a chat here we have stagner with the hundred thank you man really appreciate why when
03:26:02
Brian Atlasa woman doesn't have a man she often has to take on the masculine role but when a man doesn't have a woman he doesn't necessarily have to take on a feminine role does this prove that masculinity is more essential to survival than
03:26:14
Rosie/Alifemininity I don't know how to enter that one maybe I'm looking to roll them on this one oh you want you want to come in go ahead I was just going to say that that's exactly why the nuclear home the
03:26:26
Rosie/Aliimportance of gender roles is so important because women have to take on this masculine role because there needs to be masculine role and but they shouldn't they need to take on a feminine role because that's why most of the time like single mother homes don't
03:26:40
Rosie/Aliwork out you have sons that are criminals you have high divorce rates with women that tend to be more like the Breadwinners more headstrong so I think a lot of like that question specifically is stressing the importance that they
03:26:52
Michael Sartainare separate and that they're divided divided super like uh strictly I guess you could say Mike do you have a quick thing yeah so we'll talk about proximate and ultimate
03:27:03
Michael Sartaincause when you ever hear a woman say I Don't Need No Man yes me and Rolo and Justin need men too we need men to build roads we need men to you know put up electrical wires we need men to build an infrastructure we need men to run an
03:27:16
Michael Sartaineconomy so that we can buy and sell Goods we need all men for all kinds of these things approximate cause no you're a woman who makes 300 000 a year and you have a Mossberg by the door you don't necessarily quote unquote need them in
03:27:27
Michael Sartainultimately we all do because masculine traits aren't necessary for survival they literally are survival that's what masculine traits are they are there for the survival of the tribe feminine
03:27:37
Michael Sartaintraits are the survival of the child and when she has a child her she's the child is going to become is going to come before the husband uh the what's it called the unconditional love that women
03:27:50
Michael Sartainhave is reserved for a child and by the way thank you for that women should be like that it's a feature it's a feature not a bug and we as men those of us who understand this concept of evolutionary ecology we're grateful for the fact that
03:28:01
Michael Sartainour wife would throw us in front of the train in order to save the child that's the point that's how our genetics get passed on but survival in general when he the question was is masculinity more important for survival absolutely that
03:28:13
Michael Sartainis the definition that is where masculinity comes from those men who stormed Normandy uh back in World War II did so for the survival of their tribe putting their own Survival to the side for the love of their country and
03:28:25
Michael Sartainspecifically the love of their family that is what masculine survival that's what masculine traits are it is for the survival of the tribe whereas feminine traits they're also they also Aid in survival everything we do AIDS in survival but it's more the survival of
03:28:37
Brian AtlasThe Offspring specifically we have a donation request here from someone who wants the girls on the panel to rate him on a scale of one to ten
03:28:46
Brian AtlasEric I believe I pulled up a a guy's Instagram profile um not not Zacks it's just like yeah Josh Josh yeah all right so we're gonna review Josh's
03:28:59
Brian AtlasInstagram profile and you girls are gonna give him a little rating okay uh let's see scroll down
03:29:07
Brian Atlasuh okay so keep scrolling let's check out all his photos scroll down okay there's not there's a lot of not
03:29:18
Brian Atlasphotos of him um all right he's got a cat um oh there there that's him with the female friends maybe maybe um all right scroll down we'll scroll down even more let's see what else we
03:29:31
Michael Sartaindon't hate his composition but he's doing this wrong let's see auto composition is actually good his color correction yeah I mean yeah dude listen MOA mentoring.com bro like this all we do is fix Instagram that's him with a
03:29:43
Brian Atlasparrot or something or some sort of avian animal right there's a shot of him in the kayak there you go he's got a little chest tattoo uh okay scroll down a little more than
03:29:53
Brian Atlasmaybe that's him and his his mum uh okay that's him with uh I don't know who that is okay all right you get you get an idea ladies just your rating of him on the scale of one to ten
03:30:05
Farha/Nikki/Kylieuh scroll all the way back up to the top really quick please scroll down a little bit which is the pink tree right there the pink tree just read him just rate him like I don't I can't I didn't see
03:30:18
Farha/Nikki/Kyliehe was right okay guys Instagram because you're not you don't really like maybe his physical appearance his appearance his appearance yeah was he the cat or the tree maybe he was the Buffalo and
03:30:33
KikiI think he's cute honestly I would say 7.5 I don't even remember what he looks like can you pull it back up there you go which one is she is
03:30:44
Brian Atlasokay where is the LDS he's the guy with the blonde
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Mixed panelall right he's a drone Enthusiast if you had a sign that 10. 6.5 three okay a four
03:31:05
Rollo Tomassithe very fact that women can't even remember your face like that after that quick that's your answer is your answer right there that's right that's your rating forgettable go ahead damn
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Nevlook a bit of an MPC I got that kind of fluoride stare to him but I'd say before I'd stare I'm stealing that I see and fluoride in the same sentence bro bro they're black helicopters circling us right now are you kidding me I'm not a
03:31:29
Aspenglowy I promise um I would probably give him a seven seven really maybe six I'm going by looks right yeah
03:31:40
Farha/Nikki/Kyliea three he looks like really short and like he can probably barely pick up like a 20 pound dumbbell so all right now tell us now tell us he's the highest earning like uh banker and uh still
03:31:53
Brian Atlasdoesn't make him more attractive because isn't that isn't that like the shtick it's like here's the here's a punchline Rip's in the chat for her what's his name Joshua Joshua RP r.i.p's in the chapter Joshua I thought he was the Buffalo
03:32:05
Mixed paneldid you have something quick you're raising your hands is it related to this it was part of the sceneries and everything that he was like like all the places that he went to he probably has enough money to go to that it was invisible huh he's in business Joshua
03:32:18
Michael Sartainhit me up hit me up I'll send you to the free school server we'll fix your Instagram let's fix that Instagram literally hit me up on IG bro we'll fix your Instagram that's all we do I'll give you 30 examples of perfect instruments uh Instagram and see what
03:32:30
Brian Atlashappens yeah check out actually you know what let's let's look at Justin's what I think Instagram Instagram let's look at Chuck can we let's pull up justice Instagram you know like a little comparison Eric what's up what's your
03:32:42
Justin WallerInstagram Justin win Waller seven Justin windwaller seven also Jay Waller on YouTube do you have a twitch
03:32:55
Brian AtlasI don't know it's in the works it's coming um pull it up all right 209
03:33:05
Brian Atlas000 followers oh who's oh look at he's with Andrew Tate okay is that some KFC on the private jet yeah it is imagine that okay nice um
03:33:16
Rollo Tomassiall right oh my wow all right fit Great Britain on exotic locations
03:33:26
Nevthat's that's Robert Kiyosaki who's what okay I feel like if you went to Japan or any Asian country they'd be all over you like I think they're right try any country
03:33:40
Brian Atlasthere's a lot of guys on this show all right okay that's Justin Oh there's uh Tristan Tate and then there's uh the sartorial shooter Andrew Tris who's the one on the
03:33:52
Brian Atlasis that um Sterling that's kind of yeah okay he's kind of cut off in the uh preview or whatever is that Dubai yeah are you uh you're in Florida now but do
03:34:03
Justin Walleryou have any plans to move to Dubai or are you like you and Sterling or no no he lives in Spain so I bought it oh okay
03:34:15
Brian Atlasweren't you in Sterling like housemates at some point yeah not anymore though technically in Spain now oh isn't why did he move to Spain it's incredible I just love this incredible space I heard Spain like when it comes to laws and [ __ ] and feminism I
03:34:29
Michael Sartainheard Spain's like a big L I was just there for a week man Madrid go to Madrid I swear I had a beast is there yeah I just did have a beast yeah I just did how to beats but I am
03:34:41
Justin Wallerbuilding 11 000 square foot house in Dubai oh bad boy I'm excited take tricked me into doing it and so now we're neighbors it's a joke are you gonna revoke your American citizenship no man I'm very patriotic okay uh America's a [ __ ] goat anybody
03:34:53
Justin Wallerthat's got a problem with that can suck my dick um scoreboard you know anybody that doesn't like American look at the scoreboard do I like things that America does no do I feel like America's bully yes is it the best country to ever exist yes it is and
03:35:07
Justin Wallerit's up to Americans to come together and stop letting this country rock from it then anybody that doesn't want to be an American get the [ __ ] out amen all right uh Jesus Christ everybody's
03:35:19
Brian Atlasdropping their [ __ ] everybody just put that anywhere God damn okay uh Butterfingers over here okay so we have two girls on the panel who are virgins allegedly oh that's me yeah uh
03:35:31
Brian Atlasso I just want a point of clarification you're not you're not waiting for marriage is that correct I don't have an end date in mind it could be you said you just want to be in love if I recall like you want to meet a worthy guy but you don't need to be
03:35:43
Brian Atlasmarried is that correct um yeah it could possibly be married though you're on the fence about it it depends what the relationship would look like I guess yeah what do you mean well how
03:35:56
Farha/Nikki/Kyliewould it need to look like for you to not want to wait until marriage I guess we could still be in love but he could still be looking for something you know what I mean not till not super long term right so even if I'm in love
03:36:09
Farha/Nikki/Kyliewith them I would still need to be like a sustainable thing like you could be in love with someone without the stable relationship like if he has attachment issues or something so marriage kind of uh resolves those concerns so they've
03:36:21
Farha/Nikki/Kyliecommitted to you so you do want to get married before having sex um I'd like commitment and that could take the form of marriage or just me trusting them a lot are you religious at all or not no okay but you're worried
03:36:33
Brian Atlasabout getting into putting a hajib I was under the impression you were Muslim my parents are Muslim yeah okay and you're a virgin are you waiting until marriage is there a religious component to this
03:36:45
Nevor just components I grew up it's the mic please oh okay there's religious components I grew up in a very uptight Christian household and I I didn't really have a problem with it because you know my parents were setting foundations for me moral foundations for
03:36:58
Nevme to follow after um honestly if I'm being real maybe it's just the fact that I'm in California because most of the guys in California are just I don't know
03:37:09
Nevjust what just I don't want to say I don't want to I don't really like liberal men I just don't I just don't maybe that plays the fact into it but I I just want to do it with
03:37:20
Nevsomeone that I love you know someone that I could feel love for someone who loves me someone who I want to spend the rest of my life with maybe but I don't want to just throw away my virginity you know to some guy who doesn't give a [ __ ] about me
03:37:33
Nevbut so not waiting until marriage necessarily I wouldn't say that I'd say a part of me the part of me that grew up in a really really tightly Christian household wants to wait till marriage but I'm not sure if those are ideas that
03:37:44
Aspenare my own or that are just religious guilt I guess I think that you will drastically protect
03:37:55
Aspenyour future relationship if you wait for marriage
03:38:02
Rollo Tomassimember of House Ravenclaw is that okay I'm a Slytherin I'm sorry I crossed universities the daily wire will clip that out of this whole show right there
03:38:15
Nevyeah it's a Patrick Patrick Bateman cosplay I mean I brought the raincoat but I couldn't wear it yeah good times okay um so sort of waiting until marriage but not you know what I don't know I just
03:38:28
Nevwouldn't throw it away so easily you know I'd have to really really really know a guy before I ever considered letting him you know letting him what well I don't really want to say it
03:38:40
Nevcontrol [ __ ] like you were saying before okay I get kind of shy when it comes to this topic you know oh now you're shy
03:38:55
NevI I wouldn't [ __ ] a fat [ __ ] no what about when you say [ __ ] is that like a woman or like it could also be a fat dude like you know what I don't know I mean I've seen some cute guys could be [ __ ] but just fat [ __ ] are loud that's what I
03:39:08
Nevdon't like about them they're loud quiet fat [ __ ] if there's a quiet shy little fat [ __ ] you know okay yeah okay I don't really want to get into the schematics of bad [ __ ] okay have you
03:39:19
Brian Atlasever dated the guy have you I'm trying to no no I've only dated guys no no but I I'm just I forgot what you said back when I originally asked have you had a relationship yeah I've had really
03:39:30
Brian Atlaswhat was your longest relationship again two years two years okay and but I mean you said you're what 19. I'm 20. oh you're 20. okay was that like a high school relationship or something
03:39:42
Brian AtlasHigh School relationship okay yeah I mean that's kind of uh yeah I mean I've had relationships after that sure but I don't know okay all right um we're gonna get a couple soup chats here and then we let's
03:39:55
Brian Atlassee actually let me just do the super chats now um Eric can you uh where we were oh wait do we do
03:40:06
Brian Atlasit did we do this one yeah that was already done shout out did we do this once uh BB demon 69 thank you for the 100 Avery can you read this
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Kikishort supply I'd care for my family and opt for a non-only fan partner honor individual yo demon 69 thank you for the 100 Super Chat really appreciate it man all right we have uh
03:40:28
Brian Atlascare for an ought to pray not only transparent okay Venom RX think for the 100 Avery go for it actually no you should read this one there's two girls with glasses here it's true girl with glasses is trying too
03:40:41
Farha/Nikki/Kyliehard girls like that don't need egos raised in more power not that smart by the way I blame men following liking paying only fans of random women created this mess imagine if guys didn't do that the dating Market wouldn't be that [ __ ] up am I supposed to be triggered I don't
03:40:55
Michael Sartainknow if you are you just thinking about that you know the 400 000 she made this year and how triggered she is yeah she's trying her shows with all her money yeah what's that mean she's right though he
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Brian Atlasis right he's like wiping yeah yeah all right we have uh Apostle Victor with the 105 donation thank you man uh have my money you guilty pleasure of mine Brian
03:41:17
Brian AtlasI also have a Slytherin t-shirt right now on me so that's a nice coincidence much love hey Victor virginity lost let's do it thank you Victor appreciate it man really appreciate all the support tonight guys you guys are blowing me
03:41:29
Brian Atlasaway thank you guys so much um so okay uh really quick to show of hands should body count matter
03:41:44
Brian Atlasuh for women let's say for this should matter for women
03:41:54
Brian Atlasshould women care about a man's body count is that what you're asking a question no other way around or should a man care about a woman's body count well perhaps I could rephrase the question do
03:42:04
Brian Atlasyou do you object to men caring about women's body count wait sorry I say one more time do you object to men generally speak or do you object to men caring about women's body
03:42:16
Farha/Nikki/Kyliecount oh I feel like I've already pontificated about it pontificate more please again like I said if it makes sense if it's the zero to zero ratio for hair bonding oh so you do take an issue
03:42:27
Mixed panelwith a double standard are we gonna keep circling back what I think we should let other people okay go ahead yeah he should if he's gonna provide for me and if he's you know further down the
03:42:38
Mixed panelline he promises me a certain amount of stuff and this and that yes he should it should matter how much my body count is it should matter to him of course should I feel like I should
03:42:50
Brian Atlasso just to clarify the question is do you object to men caring about women's body count no I don't know nope I mean if a guy thinks a woman is a [ __ ] she's a [ __ ]
03:43:01
Michael Sartainthat's probably too far but yeah yeah you know what the three of us are going to stand up for women's rights here I think you're being a little bit too Draconian and misogynistic towards women and I'd really like you to stop using that
03:43:13
Michael Sartainlanguage naughty if a guy thinks a woman is a [ __ ] he thinks he's a [ __ ] and from that right that that's right that is whether or not she is and by the way this is I'm not agreeing with this but this is the argument I know a lot of big models who finally broke down and got it
03:43:27
Michael Sartainonly fans and the reason why they said they got it only fans is like they said they're gonna call me a [ __ ] anyway they already think I'm a [ __ ] they already think I sleep my way through whatever and so in part it's men's judgmental nature that causes women to behave like this I don't think it's an
03:43:40
Michael Sartainexcuse I think you could still not have I was wrong that's going to be the clip that yeah the red wire picks up that's that's right yeah but but just just so just so we're clear a lot of women will say that they'll be like well I'm going to be called this name anyway but the
03:43:52
Michael Sartaindifference is internally are you that way uh and and I think internally you know whether or not uh you guys said before you've had a hoe phase when you had your whole face did you feel good after it no okay so that's I guess maybe
03:44:04
Brian Atlasthat's what my point is uh internally you know what you did regardless of what other people think more uh really quick kind of related to this so most of you said actually body count
03:44:16
Brian Atlasdoes matter we often hear on the show that body count shouldn't matter uh what's your body count I'm going to be shamed for this
03:44:28
Kikium so I'm just going to pre-defend myself and say that I was this was when I was between the ages of 18 to 22. I don't do this anymore but I really
03:44:39
Kikithought that if I slept you were young and impressionable I thought that they would love me so it didn't work out that way anyways so it's 45.
03:44:53
AspenI lose now make the cake that you thought be that's what I have done but then I guess that's why I said like I I don't think
03:45:05
Kikibody count should matter because it sucks that I would be judged for that when I'm I am a very loyal person you know and I don't want to sleep around because it felt awful it doesn't make sense body count
03:45:18
Mixed panelsafety huh what's your Notch count what's your what's your body count huh oh that's fine because one of the things is that sure a number is based but if a
03:45:30
Mixed panelgirl is so easy to say her body count then it's either doubled or probably a little bit less but that's just me that's those red pill guys again just
03:45:40
Rosie/Alidoubling up everything right right I'd rather not answer all right my mom's watching but hi Mom it's not now below Five Below
03:45:51
AspenFive Below okay below five uh allegedly zero zero allegedly allegedly oh man um your mom is watching my mom my dad and
03:46:02
Aspenlike half my church is watching half the church yeah oh wow they forget they forgive you and also you know I've already shared a lot about my past and I agree with what that other girl said when she was on like out of respect for
03:46:14
Rollo Tomassimy future husband I feel like that's something that should be kept private fair enough okay do you think that girls with tattoos are more promiscuous than girls without tattoos
03:46:30
Rollo Tomassiyou have a tattoo I think so too well according to the red pill I'm a [ __ ] so yeah is that a fraternity tattoo family oh okay sorry I didn't get a good
03:46:42
Brian Atlaslook at it I don't know do I look like a guy to the rock star 20s you know um Justin Waller how Faith what boxer Notch count dude I truly don't
03:46:55
Brian Atlasknow he forgot he's a man of God he forgot um pray every night well that's actually a good question when it comes to tattoos you have a tattoo I don't have any
03:47:06
Brian Atlastattoos you're not a [ __ ] yeah fortunate you don't have any zero tattoos besides [ __ ] stamps tattoos on women are linked to views this is a red flag I disagree you just
03:47:19
Mixed panelyeah I call [ __ ] on that too like I don't super judge a girl with tattoos I think it depends on where they are and what's what I'm really curious on how you think of that before I answered um I love chicks with cats
03:47:29
AspenI don't really care that much I think that people uh have really bad tattoos and those ones don't get Bart Simpson on
03:47:39
Rollo Tomassithe side of your thigh that's that's good rules no but yeah I don't go to Walmart and look at girls who have like what like big fat girls with shorts on and they'll have like random tattoos all over the legs
03:47:52
Female guest (situationship)that yeah I saw this one with like a like a boat on her thigh and like you know how like they get older and it's saggy like a sinking boat agree that women can hit the wall
03:48:03
Mixed paneloh wow I mean everybody I think she read your book we need to stand up for women right now or whether you're a girl should we be the feminists
03:48:14
Brian Atlasno let's not repeal the 19th stop it stop it going too far uh okay we uh hold on we have one more thing here we have to we have two more things we have to react to We have to
03:48:28
Brian Atlasask the girls if they have any other questions for us because we only got to her oh yeah we yeah we didn't uh well so one of the I guess and I would like to try to wrap up here soon so one of the questions asked is if there's anything dating related you want to get
03:48:42
Brian Atlasoff your chest or if you have a final thought I'd like to open it up to anybody who wants to kind of get in here at the end opening it up to uh actually I do have a question for them
03:48:52
Kikiwhen do you think is the right time to have sex like how many dates in order for a man to still respect you um three answers okay three at least three
03:49:04
Rollo Tomassithree structure that's the three strike rule number or less put it this way within three dates you should know if that woman has genuine desire enough to want to have sex with you put it that way and it's it's uh it's not that
03:49:16
Rollo Tomassithat's like a deadline or a criteria I'm just saying that within uh actually I think I've got in my first book as a matter of fact the the it's basically the same three strike rule that everybody's been using for forever but it's meant to determine genuine desire
03:49:29
Rollo Tomassinot necessarily like I I would like to get with if there's like religious like convictions between the man and the woman and that's already pre-established it should still be within three dates to know that like you know what I would
03:49:42
Rollo Tomassiprobably want to have sex with you really really bad if it were not for our our convictions between the two of us I've actually people don't want to read that part of my you know that paragraph in my book but um because I think that when I talk about like
03:49:54
Rollo Tomassium what is it iron world tomasi number three which is uh you know any time a woman makes you wait for sex this sex is never worth the wait people think that that means I'm trying to encourage guys to go and have like you know wanton sex
03:50:05
Rollo Tomassiwith like loose women that's not what it is it's to determine genuine desire So within three dates you should be able to determine whether or not she's going to flake on you or she's really into you or she has some some other mitigation she's
03:50:17
Rollo Tomassigot another guy that she's hoping was going to pan out and she's putting you on ice because if it doesn't work out with him then you're gonna she'll go up with you right you're like this you're the this consolidation Pro consolation but I think she's asking about from her
03:50:30
Michael Sartainstandpoint how how many days should she you personally I would I would say the same thing three yeah uh yeah I mean the thing is just gonna be more like just to be more Discerning right it's like I I empathize with your
03:50:43
Michael Sartainsituation because I like I said I coach dudes and I see how [ __ ] up they are and I like this is what you guys got to choose from God damn that sucks man yeah I get that like trust me I do and then when I you know have these questions like you said before you know you're
03:50:56
Michael Sartainkind of talking your book about you know what your body count was uh and then so that's gonna be held against you and I feel bad for that too I totally understand I think in the end the the real answer is just to be Discerning you
03:51:07
Michael Sartainknow what I'm saying and and um and to still at the same time work on yourself and understand like the statistics are statistic I'm I'm usually the one arguing the opposite side of this point but just because there's one study that says that 17 of the time a
03:51:20
Michael Sartainwoman is going to stay happy in a relationship after she's had more than 20 sexual partners that's still 17 of women that still are happy after 20 sexual partners you know what I'm saying so uh yeah man it's it's rough uh but that's the that's the other thing is
03:51:32
Michael Sartainlike this is what this is what my best advice would be are you turned on either are you going to sleep with this guy because you need validation or because he's just lighting you up like a blow torch and he's love bombing you or whatever is
03:51:45
Michael Sartainthat why you're doing it or you're doing it because you legitimately can see you're just like or you're ignoring red flags or you're doing it because you can legitimately legitimately see a future with this dude if you can then you know three dates or however or how you know
03:51:58
Michael Sartainwhat I'm saying that's that that would be the thing now if you make this dude wait six months the the problem is this right if you make a guy wait like 10 dates or six months or whatever he has so few boundaries that eventually you're
03:52:10
Michael Sartainnot going to be attracted to him does that make sense because if then this same guy comes to me and Rollo and be like hey man I like this girl she's been with 45 dudes and she's making me wait 10 Dates we'd be like bro what the [ __ ] is wrong with you you see what I'm
03:52:22
Michael Sartainsaying do it too they'll stick around because you're their only option and they're like you know I know if I just but when you say the right thing or do the right thing I'm gonna get in there when you recognize you're his only option you're not going to be that attracted to him I'm sorry but it's just not the way supply and demand works
03:52:34
Michael Sartainright so I mean but let me tell you something ladies I do feel bro I see these do like I feel like it's it's been so when I got older when I turned at the age of 40 I remember having an easier time meeting women because my
03:52:45
Michael Sartaincompetition is Takashi 69 and [ __ ] Machine Gun Kelly like that's who I have to I have to compete with dude to wear pink dresses and like that's not really much competition I'm not trying to brag there's nothing special about me it's just man I just saw this lack of
03:52:57
Michael Sartainmasculinity just sucked out of this dating marketplace with men who had never bench pressed 200 pounds been a [ __ ] fight played football any of these like basic things that I went through the teasing and the razzing that
03:53:09
Michael Sartainhappened these dudes will report me on [ __ ] Instagram if I say bad words to them now like I cannot believe these men that I that you guys have to pick from and I feel bad dude I legitimately I do so don't think that I I don't empathize
03:53:21
Rollo Tomassiwith the situation women would rather share an alpha guy than to be saddled with the beta loose yeah I think Liberals are the problem bro
03:53:34
Rollo TomassiI just yeah I think you're out honestly honestly I don't think it's I don't think it's right or left or political or anything to do with that I just think it's that the way that we have sort of acculturated like multiple generations
03:53:46
Rollo Tomassiof guys since the sexual Revolution whether that's Republic you know what I can I can make the same arguments against uh conservatives as I can with with uh you know liberal leftists as
03:53:58
Rollo Tomassiwell it's just they what is it you know uh Trad cons are just progressives driving the speed limit they're just doing they're just doing what they think is right and the guys on the right are
03:54:09
Rollo Tomassijust as weak as the guys on the left right now so and that's the problem when when when Justin's here and we're talking about like how he's gonna have the pick of the litter and women are more than willing to share him or get
03:54:21
Rollo Tomassiinto a default situation where women would because they'll share that becomes polygamy this one guy gets gets many many women and it's not because he's trying a politically he's not the one
03:54:32
Rollo Tomassiinitiating this it's because he's the best option and women are more than whether they're consciously doing it or not he's the best option to to wait out I hope if I can get with him that if I do this then he'll want to stay with me
03:54:44
Rollo Tomassihe'll it'll be closed on both our ends we'll live happily ever after because he's just he's the Apex well what Mike is just saying right here is the competition is so low right now that yeah he's the default Choice the guy
03:54:55
Rollo Tomassiwho's the Apex Alpha becomes the default choice so you have the state of of a polygyny I guess where it's one man and many women but it's initiated by women because their only selection or the one that they want to get with they don't
03:55:08
Rollo Tomassineed a man for long-term security because they've already taken care of that so they don't need a man but they want a man what's the man that they want this guy they want Jason Momoa they want the guy who's going to be the good
03:55:19
Rollo Tomassisexual experience for them and then other guys who are the Lesser men they complain about him because he ruined my girlfriend he ruined the girl that uh that now I'm married to and my life is a living hell because she can't get over that guy
03:55:34
Brian Atlasword um how many things I have to I have to announce something really quick and I need to apologize to uh somebody here he rated us on Twitch he's uh he's a Chad
03:55:45
Brian Atlasgamer his name's payo Frederick in Canada um Eric I don't know if you're Eric I need you to pull it up um I don't know if you I think it was the last podcast we reacted to payo we reacted to that twitch clip of him with
03:55:58
Brian Atlasthe keyboard and then we reacted to his we pulled up his Instagram so if you go to instagram.com I just he rated us on Twitch and I missed it which is like
03:56:08
Brian Atlasreally bad form on Twitch I I apologize we our primary stream platform is YouTube so we missed it on Twitch so my bad Fred Eric
03:56:20
Brian Atlasuh so pull up his Instagram just so we can shout him out and then we're gonna have the girls react see if he would date him and then if you recall recall that twitch clip we reacted to
03:56:32
Brian Atlasum I'll know how you're gonna find it to be honest try to find it it's a payo pay-a-y-o-o wow yo Victor thank you man Victor
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TTS/Donationsdonated 210 forgot to read what's the trigger for TTS but now I don't really have a message just sorry to disappoint my
03:56:54
Brian Atlasco-house Slytherin College you I am wearing a Slytherin t-shirt as a father of two happily married yo Victor thank you for the uh big 210 donation there through streamlabs really appreciate it
03:57:05
Brian Atlasman thank you for the TTS uh yeah uh forgot to read what's the trigger for TTS uh I think maybe you sent one earlier at a lower threshold in any case thank you so much man really appreciate it Eric can you go ahead and pull up
03:57:18
Brian Atlaspayo payo if you're watching this I don't know if you still all right you rated us like two hours ago thanks for the raid man uh so girls would you date this man he is a Chad World of Warcraft gamer a
03:57:30
Brian Atlastwitch he put the old filter on yeah that's something you can do on Facebook um so like he's he's a gamer like top tier World of Warcraft gamer and his eyes closed more are they just stuck I think they're just stuck like that he's
03:57:42
Brian Atlashe had Thunder fury on like two of his level 60 Rogues in vanilla in like World of Warcraft classic so he's a he's like a Chad Eric uh zoom in on that one with thunder Fury with a sword so uh ladies
03:57:54
Nevyes or no would you date this guy Loki he's got the physio of a high elf from Skyrim like if you like thicken away but he looks funny as [ __ ] dude I would
03:58:06
Brian Atlasdefinitely date him like he looks silly okay Julius Lindsay he lives in Canada though like is that an issue like he's Canadian do you have a passport are you down to the passport if if he flew if he