ØnlyFans "Virgin" vs. Rollo Tomassi, Justin Waller, Mike Sartain | Dating Talk #72

Date: 2023-05-08

Duration: 4h 56m

Guests

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00Mixed panel(audience)

SPEAKER_01TTS/Donations(audience)

SPEAKER_02Rosie/Ali(guest)

SPEAKER_03Female guest (situationship)(guest)

SPEAKER_04Nev(guest)

SPEAKER_05Farha/Nikki/Kylie(guest)

SPEAKER_06Crew(audience)

SPEAKER_07Patrice O'Neal (clip)(audience)

SPEAKER_08Michael Sartain(guest)

SPEAKER_09Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_10Unidentified(audience)

SPEAKER_11Rollo Tomassi(guest)

SPEAKER_12Justin Waller(guest)

SPEAKER_13Kiki(host)

SPEAKER_14Aspen(guest)

Key Moments

00:05:36

IntroFarha introduces herself as a 24yo TikToker and OnlyFans creator; immediately followed by Nikki (18, warehouse).

00:07:48

IntroMichael Sartain enters as mystery guest, joking "I'm Mia Khalifa what's up" before revealing himself; age 45.

00:08:18

IntroJustin Waller introduces himself: construction, real estate, age 37. Keeps relationship status a "mystery."

00:08:27

IntroRollo Tomassi introduces himself: author of the Rational Male series, just turned 55, married 27 years (closed on both ends).

00:21:00

QuoteBrian announces show has reached 10,000+ concurrent viewers, a record for the Whatever podcast.

00:47:32

QuoteFarha reveals she is a virgin despite doing OnlyFans. Justin Waller responds with disbelief; Rollo connects it to hypergamy.

00:48:32

ControversyMichael Sartain asks Farha what kind of OnlyFans she does and presses on whether she has ever gotten close to sex; extended discussion of her virginity and pickiness.

00:59:36

ControversyRollo Tomassi and Farha debate hypergamy definition at length. Rollo argues it is biological/evolutionary; Farha argues the definition is being used inconsistently.

01:16:47

QuoteBrian asks girls to self-rate looks 1-10. Rosie says 5, Ali 7, Aspen 7, Kylie 7. Show is at record 10,000+ viewers during this segment.

02:18:12

QuoteMichael Sartain advises all single guests to volunteer at SPCA and soup kitchens as a strategy to meet empathetic, non-narcissistic partners.

03:38:20

QuoteBrian plays Patrice O'Neal "vagina train accident" clip. Avery/Kiki is first to respond: "blow jobs."

04:23:35

QuoteBrian attempts to set up Farha with Destiny (political streamer) who was in the live chat; Farha says they already live in the same city and she'd be open to a date arranged by Brian.

04:33:28

QuoteJustin Waller describes his War Room involvement: co-created with Andrew Tate, also involves Lou Barnett and "satorial shooter."

Topics Discussed

00:00:00

Introductions and show announcements

Brian Atlas introduces guests and co-host Kiki. Sponsor spot for MCFC 2 MMA event. Guests introduce name, age, occupation, and relationship status. Mystery male guest (Michael Sartain) revealed. Male guests: Justin Waller, Rollo Tomassi.

00:11:00

Aspen: six years single, dating standards, religion

Aspen discusses being single for six years with only one near-relationship. She is a conservative Christian ER nurse. Panel discusses her standards (must love The Office, go to church). Debate on whether she is too picky or intimidating.

00:46:40

OnlyFans virgin reveal: Farha

Farha reveals she does OnlyFans but is a virgin. Panel probes consistency of this position. Farha explains she debates men in her DMs and her content is non-pornographic. Justin Waller and Michael Sartain question whether she is actually a virgin. Rollo Tomassi connects this to hypergamy.

01:00:00

Hypergamy debate: Rollo Tomassi vs Farha

Extended debate on the definition and origins of hypergamy. Farha argues hypergamy is cultural or definitionally contested; Rollo argues it is biological and universal across 37 cultures. Michael Sartain cites evolutionary psychology studies on attraction and facial symmetry. Debate on whether selectiveness equals low body count.

01:30:00

Self-ratings round and objectivity of beauty

Brian asks panel to self-rate looks 1-10. Girls give: Rosie 5, Ali 7, Nev 6, Aspen 7, Kylie 7. Farha deflects. SPEAKER_00 guests give mixed answers. Debate erupts on whether beauty ratings are objective or subjective. Michael Sartain argues beauty is largely objective (symmetry, signs of youth). Show peaks at 10,000+ concurrent viewers.

01:48:20

Body count, double standards, and OnlyFans economics

Discussion of acceptable body count numbers. Farha debates whether body count = selectiveness. Justin Waller states he will not date a woman with 80+ bodies. Rollo explains evolutionary basis for asymmetric standards. Farha argues she does not conflate selectiveness with body count numbers.

02:20:00

Role models, broken homes, sex and relationships advice

Panel discusses role models. Rosie shares 7-month situationship backstory. Kiki reads superchat questions. Michael Sartain advises volunteering at SPCA/soup kitchens to meet empathetic partners. Discussion on whether men's actions matter more than words. Rollo: women talk, men do.

02:50:00

Dating while in the military, masculinity, and modern men

Discussion of dating military men (small percentage of Americans serve). Justin Waller and Rollo Tomassi debate the crisis in modern masculinity. Rollo argues traditional marriage is currently untenable for men due to imbalanced risk. Debate on polygamy/sharing high-value men. Justin Waller explains War Room involvement with Andrew Tate.

03:30:00

Patrice O'Neal clip and panel reactions

Brian plays Patrice O'Neal "train accident" clip asking what women would do to keep a man if they lost their vagina. Panel reacts. Avery says "blow jobs"; Aspen declines to answer fully. Discussion of what women uniquely bring to relationships beyond sex.

03:53:20

Destiny (streamer) discussion and payo Twitch raider

Brian investigates Destiny (political streamer) who sent superchat. Panel rates Destiny. Farha defends her polyamorous arrangement with Destiny. Justin Waller and Rollo Tomassi debate open relationships. Brian tries to set up Farha with Destiny. World of Warcraft streamer payo shown on screen; girls rate him.

04:20:00

Andrew Tate's War Room and closing remarks

Brian asks Justin Waller about War Room involvement. Justin describes it as co-created with Tate along with Lou Barnett and others. Closing shoutouts. Brian promotes Justin's YouTube channel and War Room.

Transcript

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00:59:34

Michael Sartainmuscle and 50 uh more lower body muscle and we when you look at all these things these are genetic there's these things are not a function of culture so that's a mistake to think that hypergamy is something that's created because men are

00:59:47

Farha/Nikki/Kyliecreated some sort of patriarchy that created a hypergamous situation that is not the case well I think we were just using conflicting definitions of of hypergamy I was referring to socioeconomic background in your discussion that's easy to do in your

00:59:59

Michael Sartaindiscussion with him but in my discussion because my my podcast on evolutionary psychology there is no evidence whatsoever that the concept of hypergamy comes from culture just like my heterosexuality not come from culture and what people are attracted to does

01:00:11

Michael Sartainnot come from culture we've proven unequivocally unassailably it is genetic now there's variations within a culture what some people find attractive as others but in all 37 cultures they found facial uh symmetrical faces and signs of

01:00:24

Michael SartainYouth to be attracted by an average on General men who are taller not necessarily six feet tall some places don't use the imperial system but uh not always but generally men who are taller than women and in all of these different

01:00:35

Michael Sartaincases the men who are more competent and allegory or an analogy for competency in 2023 is money whereas there was no money during the plasticine Epic competency is now referred to as money their uh the

01:00:47

Michael Sartainability to Garner resources that's what's most important but there's no your point to your point before let me just stop right there there's no science behind the idea that it's cultural it's there is none whatsoever because there

01:00:59

Farha/Nikki/Kyliewould be some culture where it wasn't the case and no such culture has ever existed or currently exists right and you're using a very multi-dimensional application of hypergamy of course people are attracted to competence I was

01:01:10

Farha/Nikki/Kyliereferring again to socioeconomic background competence can map onto a lot of different facets it can mean earning more it could mean competence in helping you as a woman take care of you but that doesn't translate like I kind of want you to give a more clear definition of

01:01:23

Rosie/Aliwhat you mean by hypergamy in the multi-dimensional sense can I combat good because so you're saying that you think that socioeconomic is cultural like that standard for us not just looks

01:01:35

Rosie/Alinot taller anything like that repeat the question okay so say you're a woman who makes a lot of money you would date a man who makes less than you

01:01:46

Rosie/Alibecause we're we bled that out of our culture right women have the access to higher education things like that and we can make more money correct yeah we're seeing like a reversal of hypergamy at least in this socioeconomic sense yeah

01:01:57

Rosie/Aliso and that's your standard for yourself like you think like you would not date a man who makes more than you whatever oh it's not that I wouldn't I'm saying that's not like the Cardinal reason I'm attracted to someone is not based on

01:02:08

Farha/Nikki/Kyliewealth so you don't think it should be I don't know about should be I don't know about adding morality to it I think you should do whatever your you know what I mean what is the Cardinal reason for you to be

01:02:20

Farha/Nikki/Kyliethat volatile sense of chemistry and that's what does that mean usually it's based on a shared sense of intelligence or humor and if I find that in any person for me to meet someone so the guy could be 400 pounds and you would still find him

01:02:33

Rollo Tomassisexually attractive because he's as funny as Danny DeVito or Jim Carrey well funny and smart isn't that what you're saying yeah for me it's about wits and humor I see so all the fat guys in the audience right now are like man I just

01:02:45

Farha/Nikki/Kyliegotta brush up on my stand-up routine I have found overweight men who I'm very attracted to because I find them funny and some people might say that they develop that humor to kind of make up for their looks you realize that looking at your Instagram right now

01:02:58

Nevwhat you realize that Chad's probably digging up your Instagram right now good for them but yeah okay that was a bunch of word solid can we talk about something else you gotta get close to the microphone that was a

01:03:10

Nevbunch of words solid I think you're really intelligent by the way but can we talk about something else bro we've been on this for like 20 minutes straight I I think we heard every third word you said can we talk about something else because

01:03:21

Brian Atlaswe've been on this for 20 minutes straight did you hear that one Michael okay here we're gonna do uh we're gonna shout out everyone on Twitch Eric could you pull up the twitch

01:03:32

Brian AtlasJeremy we'll get to that in a sec thank you man appreciate it all right guys go to twitch.tv slash whatever drop us a prime sub in the follow if you have it if you have Amazon Prime you go to uh Amazon Prime you link it to your Twitch quick free easy way to

01:03:45

Brian Atlassupport the show every single month uh I'm gonna shout everybody out here can I thank you for the prime sailor Noob thanks for the uh gifted sub game depth think of the Prime uh nerc 20 thing for the tier one hey look think of the Prime

01:03:57

Brian AtlasJohn you think for the prime desert think of the primes X lith I think for the prime Canon lover thank you for the five gifted subs thank you man really appreciate it Gallard asking you the prime lady Noni thing for the prime times that thing for the Paulo snake

01:04:10

Brian Atlasthing for the follow uh closed shopping for the follow flying kiwi thank you for the prime battery thing for the prime appreciate it guys twitch.tv whatever if you want to follow and drop us a promise I appreciate it

01:04:22

Brian Atlasguys and then let's get a couple soup chats in while we have it so we have uh Karma here I'm gonna re-tigure this uh Karma I told you to leave the business

01:04:31

Brian Atlascard in your pocket and have God damn it what huh oh [ __ ] sorry am I bad bro word okay um and then that's going to take a little second here to uh pass through I

01:04:42

Brian Atlasgotta wait for it here we have uh John Galt with the hundred and one dollar thank you John Galt um I'm gonna have you read this one okay

01:04:53

Kikigo ahead all right so Rolo tomasi tells me

01:05:02

Kikias dysfunctional as the blue-haired feminists who hate men and childless cat ladies look to Matt Walsh or Ben Shapiro for better advice your response yeah well uh first off that tweet was uh

01:05:13

Rollo Tomassilet's just say tongue-in-cheek first of all and then second of all if I told you to go jump off a cliff are you going to go do that if I told you that the fastest way to make a million dollars was to steal it

01:05:24

Rollo Tomassiwould you disagree with that if I told you uh let's see the thing is a problem that I have with with Twitter and a lot of the Social Media stuff that's going on right now is you can't open your

01:05:34

Rollo Tomassimouth on social media without it being advice you can't go on a show you can't go on Instagram you can't go on Twitter without people saying you're giving advice you're trying to influence me to do something rather than actually having

01:05:47

Rollo Tomassisome sort of thought experiment now when I was talking about that when I brought that up I was bringing up the uh the idea of what makes a high value guy and what is the quickest way or the quickest

01:05:57

Rollo Tomassipath from point A to point B so would that not be these days simply don't have don't get married do not be concerned with family creation focus on your focus on your you know your mission

01:06:10

Rollo Tomassiwhatever that happens to be and yes I said get a vasectomy and I'll tell you what's funny is when people come at me and they say oh Rola thinks that we should all go and and sterilize ourselves role and I'm I'm not telling

01:06:20

Rollo Tomassiyou to do that okay I'm not saying go get a [ __ ] vasectomy okay if that's what you want to do fine go ahead and do that but it's not an imp I'm not influencing I'm just saying look this is the fastest way for you to protect

01:06:32

Rollo Tomassiyourself from having children if that's the way you want it if that's where you want to be so guys who don't have those accountabilities they don't have those liabilities those are the guys who are going to outperform the guys who are

01:06:44

Rollo Tomassialready tied down by those things whether or not that's a moral issue or an ethical issue that you can go take that up with Matt Walsh and Ben Shapiro all day long if you want we got one here

01:06:54

Brian Atlasfrom zentians think for the hunter men to the ugly 304 uh not sure who this is directed towards at no point in your rambling incoherent response were you ever even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought

01:07:05

Brian Atlaseveryone is dumber for having listened to it I award you no points and may God have mercy on your soul no idea well well quoted well quoted from the movie

01:07:16

Brian Atlaswell done well done with Billy Madison is that yeah is that it and then we have good we have let's see here um we have Wiley 5-0 thing for the 100 Avery go for it

01:07:34

Brian Atlasyou're 100 stay faithful Shalom wait but you didn't wait yeah you didn't say you're waiting until marriage now I'm like trying to chill out but I definitely haven't done that

01:07:44

Kikiyou said you were dating for marriage dating for marriage I have had sex yeah you're not cheated on Brian no yeah

01:07:53

KikiI you've cheated no no that not since I've seen you oh I've been a good girl

01:08:01

Kikiokay all right we have Roman here CHF thank you for the 100 man really appreciate the support uh go for it Avery some of the people at this table are barely able to form a proper sentence looks do matter but so does

01:08:12

Brian Atlaslanguage among other things greetings from Switzerland uh thank you Roman uh for the uh donation from Switzerland I don't know if you're in the French speaking part of the Swiss German speaking part but much appreciated man

01:08:23

Brian Atlasthank you merci beaucoup if you're I don't know if that's the same in Swiss German but okay Jeremy think for the big 200 Super Chat man thank you uh do you want to read this one you assume

01:08:36

Farha/Nikki/Kyliethat's about me I'm the Mia Khalifa from wish in your eyes yeah yeah not my words Jeremy well considering you're uh related to uh Destiny why don't you have a take a shot at that one the Mia Khalifa from wish came here with an agenda she's Destiny's little lap dog Destiny went on a world

01:08:49

Farha/Nikki/Kylietour calling them trafficker shout out Justin wallowing waller for helping men level up real G do you have a response to Jeremy that I'm here is Destiny's a lap dog no I actually told him he's not allowed to

01:09:01

Farha/Nikki/Kyliewatch this on stream right now I don't know if that's who he is but you told him he's not allowed yeah what's going on there oh I just said because he probably would

01:09:13

Brian Atlashave watched it because you don't want him to watch it huh why would you not want him to watch it yeah I don't know we're friends I was like I want to see how I do first what I don't really feel it's not that deep I was more interested in your response to the uh wish Mia

01:09:26

Brian AtlasKhalifa thing if you have thought like a rebuttal maybe more like a Walmart version I've I've heard every dude shots you want to say something back to Jeremy flattered

01:09:39

Farha/Nikki/Kyliethat he paid 200 when he only needed to pay 100 to get your attention right

01:09:54

Brian Atlasother people there's a lot of people who look like that um and then uh he also said something to Justin here shout out Justin waller for helping men level up real G do you want to say anything to Jeremy Justin yeah man I appreciate it thank you very much

01:10:07

Brian Atlasthank you Jeremy I appreciate it and then we have Davon Jackson here thank you for the 100 man good to see you back uh Michael me personally I wouldn't take that level of disrespect oh well oh well did I miss something was someone

01:10:18

Farha/Nikki/Kyliedisrespecting Captain okay happy we're good Michael said it a lot so I'm making sure he heard him it was a joke like don't it's not it's not that serious you can pull that it's probably not that soon go ahead Eric you can pull it up uh

01:10:31

KikiAvery if you want to read this one go for it translation she's got a business model of catering to fat unhygienic unhygienic midgets who all think they have a chance to crack the code Tate 101

01:10:42

Kikishe ain't slick it's all part of her tactics Waller take over the mic like the alpha you are you're the reason I'm watching now

01:10:53

Mixed panelno pressure huh so you believe that males are alphas

01:11:06

Mixed panelno what not really do you think there's such thing as an alpha female hey out of curious I feel like there should be somebody who should pull the weight and somebody who should be okay

01:11:17

Mixed panelso you're a regulator obviously a relationship is a scale so you know if you feel like you're investing too much and that person is obviously pulling away so what is there any reason for you

01:11:28

TTS/Donationshold on guys donated 200 thank you man Brian first off great panel at least on the male side very based question for the girls on the panel who are your role models in

01:11:40

TTS/Donationslife second question how many of them came from a broken home P.S Brian you thought the 200 price tag bad zxc thank you man really appreciate the uh 200 by the way guys just a

01:11:54

Brian Atlasreminder um if you want to direct your uh donations to stream Labs just so we don't you know YouTube doesn't take their 30 woke cut um here let me just pull that one one up

01:12:05

Brian Atlasone I guess I'll read it wait it was uh question for the girls on the panel who are your role models in life besides Mia Khalifa um

01:12:15

Brian Atlassecond question how many of them came from a broken home okay that's um Avery confirm or deny broken home I did not come from a broken home we'll go

01:12:27

Brian Atlasaround really quickly my parents are not together is that broken broken home no broken home no my parents have an arranged marriage broken home yeah yeah broken home oh

01:12:38

Nevbroken home divorced but still all in my life Patrick Bateman broken homes well if I know bro well you're too far from them okay hello fine if I came from a broken home or not are your parents still together oh yeah they're still together

01:12:50

Nevthey've been together for like what about you huh I'm just like how do you not know what never mind no no I'm like I'm like hell if I would know like I mean my parents are still together whether or not they like each other I don't [ __ ] know

01:13:03

Female guest (situationship)it's not about your parents so it's about you oh me were you loved as a child I guess so okay uh my parents are married and they're in love

01:13:15

Brian Atlasnot a broken family no I did not come from a broken home okay and then the other thing was just uh Your Role Models

01:13:25

Kikiin life Avery Harley Quinn yeah Harley Quinn's one of them also Steve Carell that's it and Harley Quinn that's okay that's a

01:13:37

Brian Atlasgood combo that is a pair I don't have any no Role Models no destiny no I think I can do better yeah uh Andrew what about Andrew Tate yeah that's that's the one he's the one yeah

01:13:48

Nevum okay my mom my grandpa uh [ __ ] Patrick Bateman Ryan Gosling oh this chick's a troll okay no

01:14:00

NevI'm not I swear I swear I swear I swear I like his business ethic I like his work ethic okay I really like it um I guess my uncle too I don't know

01:14:16

Nevokay my uncle is not in prison that was like a joke that was a joke uncle's not in person all right the FBI is knocking in his door right now go ahead Aspen um I'm role models

01:14:27

AspenJC all right I got hope for you come on Michael Scott no I'm just kidding um my role models are the people that pointed me towards truth and love and that were our personally in my life

01:14:39

Aspenthey're um some of my high school mentors and teachers no it's like youth group okay um just when I like went through my hard time in

01:14:49

Aspenlife they just were there for me and they are happily married they're people that do amazing things with their lives those are my

01:14:58

Brian Atlasum but no one person in particular um no one no Jason Michael Scott JC

01:15:07

Farha/Nikki/KylieJC oh Jesus I love Jesus okay cool uh role model I would say besides Michael sorting besides Michael certain I would say just the women um like in my

01:15:21

Farha/Nikki/Kyliefamily like my mom my grandparents and my aunts and then also just like um I grew up doing pageants and cheering like I've done that my like whole life just women that were older than me that did that too there was a lot of women that I

01:15:33

Brian Atlascould look up to that were involved in that as well all right very cool we have a chat here from wiley50 I think for the 100. uh correction on my last Super Chat it was meant for Aspen Avery this one is for

01:15:44

Brian Atlasyou in regards to giving up of the FAA is hiring air traffic controllers early six figs one of the most respected jobs I'm not just saying this so I don't have to work overtime I swear I mean my understanding of the FAA the air traffic

01:15:56

Brian AtlasATC um it's a super stressful job and they like for the first like what 10 years you're in like some dog [ __ ] Regional Airport for like that's really hard yeah and it's stressful

01:16:08

Brian Atlasyou want me to do that yeah oh oh I don't handle stress very well I don't really rip in the chat I wonder if there's like any like one who has only fans who's also in air traffic control and they like do it at

01:16:21

Brian Atlasthe same time and [ __ ] you know like how nurses will like go into the janitor closet and like get fired from their Hospital job like there's an ATC controller who's just like there's only fans like your only source of income is do you have another job besides is a

01:16:34

Brian Atlasside hustle or is it something that you do like just to the exception of everything else it's my main source of income uh only fans on tandem with like Tick Tock and sponsorships and stuff okay so influence and only things yeah we got the question here from Stiffler

01:16:47

Brian Atlasask the ladies to rate their looks on a scale of one to ten so go ahead Avery 6.5 one but come on one I mean isn't this a

01:16:59

Brian Atlashumbleness test like you say something over six and they humble you anyway yeah but is that too low five what what I mean now it just seems like you're wanting to give me the answer that you think we want to hear but what do you

01:17:12

Brian Atlasgenuinely what's your own self-assessment of your physical appearance I don't know if I self-assess in that quantitative of a way do you yeah I do you look at us all and you already have a number in your head well I want to

01:17:24

Brian Atlasgive you guys more of a look over but I couldn't say questions I suppose I could assign like a number yes one to ten I don't I don't intend to do it unless you guys ask me to but I feel like just rate yourself like what today we'll go around

01:17:36

Female guest (situationship)the table right now five okay sure what about you seven I I I'm not humbling myself but you know not everybody's perfect like okay no matter what they say [ __ ] it just depends on the day but today it's like a six

01:17:48

Aspenlike a six it's on a sliding scale per day five I feel like it depends on the time of

01:17:57

Aspenday and uh what day but today this day May 7th I probably a seven what about like around Twilight is it okay I mean like I mean like when I'm just waking up in the morning because we

01:18:10

Rollo Tomassican go from two to seven no like the evening Twilight uh in Twilight like the Twilight time seven it's a better lighting that works for you better life yeah okay what about you yeah I kind of

01:18:22

Brian Atlaslike the skill thing too but I guess I'll say like a seven all right okay thank you Stiffler for that

01:18:35

Justin Walleryou guys are starting a movement did that dude say it was a 10 on your show the other day a dude a dude which dude oh oh wait uh no he's talking about Gary the numbers that big Gremlin looking thing that was

01:18:47

Michael Sartainon your show yeah the numbers guys ugh she he made a thing it was on what was it on like a video so uh um so Ali did uh choose on no jumper they

01:19:00

Michael Sartainshowed her tick tock on no jumper and she said these dudes don't understand that I'm a 10 so I'm at Wendy's right now eating my feelings good times good so did you object do you object to the rating scale

01:19:12

Farha/Nikki/Kylienot objective someone sees themselves in a way where they can quantify it go for it sure because sometimes we get pushback from on this question of like oh it's kind of

01:19:22

Brian Atlasweird rude to dehuman try to dehumanizing to try to view someone you know to rank someone by their or rate someone qualitatively it's not even the rudeness I question the objectivity

01:19:33

Farha/Nikki/Kylieof it because I've noticed when fresh and fit does this and you do this the intention is kind of to rate the woman's delusion or humbleness which kind of proves that the rating system is subjective because the argument is it is it's objective but if the girl says 10

01:19:45

Farha/Nikki/Kyliethen the guys will call her too if the girl says too they say funny how the girl this is too is the hottest girl so they base it off personality proving that you know what I mean you factor in personality what is personality because if you're over here and you're like oh yeah I'm hot [ __ ] this and this and that

01:19:58

Female guest (situationship)they're going to be like whoa she's over here thinking she's all that so let's ride and humble her really quick but if you're like if you're kind of nice about it and you're kind of like oh yeah I feel like maybe I'm an a I'm a nine today like you know I'm feeling okay they're gonna be like okay that's cool sure which proves that looks aren't

01:20:11

Mixed panelobjective then if we talk about that then I changed my answer I'm a 10. everyone no we're talking about that I'm changing my answer though because if I don't care what anybody says like

01:20:23

Mixed paneleverybody can say any hurtful thing I play COD like yeah I've heard so much Call of Duty Call of Duty Modern Warfare the first those are some hardcore lobbies for sure yeah

01:20:33

Rollo TomassiI promise you okay you're correct it is subjective and that's why we asked you you're you're the subject in this time you're rating yourself

01:20:44

Rollo Tomassievery time we do access Vegas we have we have some in my opinion some very stunningly gorgeous girls on there every guy in the in the chat says oh I can't why don't you get some normal girls on there why don't you get like that's the

01:20:56

Rollo Tomassinumber one thing we had to deal with from day one was people saying that that the girls on our show were fake they had big lips they had big tits they had there was you know they were get some real girls on there kind of thing and so it was the subjective like opinion of

01:21:08

Rollo Tomassithese guys that these aren't like a quote-unquote normal girls so all you really have to do is go walk through any major airport today and you can go find normal people are they going to be the people that you want to have on your your podcast are they going to be people you're going to pull for like these kind

01:21:21

Brian Atlasof questions I don't think so big announcement guys we currently have 10 000 plus viewers that is a record you'll get more that is a record for whatever

01:21:30

Brian Atlasthe chat is on fire holy [ __ ] thank you guys I think our previous highest was like 8 000 yeah go ahead okay I think everyone's like over complicating things

01:21:42

Nevlike it's just they just asked you like whether or not you think you're a 10 like in my opinion if a fat [ __ ] is fat you call her fat you know or if someone's ugly you call them butt ugly you know but like if we just over

01:21:53

Female guest (situationship)complicated things like oh oh my worth is like okay this this entire video you have been talking about personality how it doesn't have to do yeah yeah I've been talking about no no no because

01:22:06

Nevnow you're talking down about somebody how they're okay well if the fat [ __ ] is shot you call her fat like personally you have an ugly personality do you have an ugly personality well yeah that's your opinion but like personally so at the end of the day it's still inconvenience

01:22:22

Mixed panelshe's talking about two different things

01:22:28

Mixed panelyou just keep going you just keep going

01:22:37

TTS/Donationshold on thank you man here here is a way to gauge this question when you rate yourself what subconscious image

01:22:48

TTS/Donationsyour Instagram photos or you just getting out of the shower and looking at yourself we're stealing that question yes thank you bats exe thank you really

01:23:00

TTS/Donationsappreciate the support speaking of the rating thing and oh my God 300

01:23:16

TTS/Donationsdollars Farah zero dollars Nikki zero dollars Rosie zero dollars alley three hundred dollars Nev 500 Aspen three

01:23:26

TTS/Donationshundred dollars Kylie zero dollars Sartain if he returns my watch wallet [Laughter]

01:23:36

Michael SartainI gave him his watch back there he's got it right here I'm sorry Mike Davis I don't know what I did to Mike Davis but yeah man Mike Davis what once uh thank you guys for all this if he's using

01:23:48

Rollo Tomassiwords like outcall he's from Nevada [Laughter]

01:23:58

Mixed panelnot I just don't like being cut off because I literally just sat here two [ __ ] hours to listen you talk and I just can't talk you came here to talk to everybody I understand that but am I

01:24:08

Nevcutting you off you've been cutting people off this entire time whoo you and I just have you took up like 20 minutes vomiting [ __ ] out word salad

01:24:20

Mixed panel20 minutes straight why are you getting offended that I want to have the conversation with you I'm not offended yeah because you're just you're trying to call me I'm trying to literally finish my point I haven't even got to

01:24:31

Mixed panelthe period okay now is your time going that's literally a comma I'm so mad ladies ladies ladies you're both pretty it's okay that is about how would I [ __ ] stand for it what right you mentioned the

01:24:44

Brian Atlasperiod can we please not talk about menstruation but um I don't know you said something about periods I said can I bring some can I get nerdy with us again real quick so beauty is not

01:24:55

Michael Sartainactually not subjective uh there's tons of studies that show when you overlay there's a there's a famous one where you overlay the pictures of several thousand psychology students over each other you come up with an average and that average is more attractive than the other people

01:25:08

Michael Sartainit's rated as more attractive than the people in the classroom also there's studies that show that infants young children look at people who are more attractive for longer periods of time when I you know I've posted over 45 different bikini competitions and

01:25:20

Michael Sartainexactly I've always had over 45 different bikini competitions and in doing so when when I asked the guys who's going to win it's almost always like the same three girls we all we generally agree there's no study that shows that beauty now to a certain

01:25:32

Michael Sartainextent obviously some people like bigger butts or bigger lips but the type the idea of facial Symmetry and signs of Youth clear skin things like that those things tend to be Universal so those things are not subjective they're

01:25:44

Michael Sartainactually objective and that's a really offensive thing to a lot of people uh when when you you know look at Victoria's Secret and they show other body types and I'm all for inclusivity but they're not going to change what I find attractive or what Justin finds attractive or what Rolo or any of the

01:25:57

Michael Sartainmen in the chat what they find attractive because they I because when you leave that door open the beauty is subjective it really for the most part isn't like you can tell when something is beautiful because of symmetry and other things and there's just tons of studies there's tons of evidence to show

01:26:11

Aspenthis beautiful Point um but I would like to talk to you again um what you said was that that there was a double standard in what

01:26:23

Aspenshe was saying and okay what you said was she calls it like she sees it and that's wrong because and then you you sorry was it you forward

01:26:34

Aspenyou talked you talked about how how we just got in that argument but she you're saying that she's calling it a double standard for caring about somebody's personality when she meets somebody and then calling them ugly or fat I just

01:26:47

Nevdon't want to [ __ ] a fat [ __ ] I I sorry I just don't want to [ __ ] a fat [ __ ] but okay yeah are you bi

01:27:00

TTS/Donationsthe Destroyer who comes on here every once in a while okay but that's not what we're saying I'm just trying to get a read yo I've been thinking for that man I appreciate it donated two hundred dollars

01:27:12

TTS/Donationsstop focusing on dollar if you've got you then great these girls have no sense of tradition false studies is what they preach and listen to other women on what

01:27:22

Brian Atlasa man is and wants set your value boundaries and get experience say man is a leader and the woman makes it worth it yo Ivan junior thank you for the 200 donation really appreciate all the support guys really appreciate all the support tonight

01:27:35

Nevum do you want to continue okay wanting to [ __ ] fat [ __ ] okay I just don't want to [ __ ] fat [ __ ] okay I just don't like you said you're wait what dude I just I know you're like if a fat [ __ ]

01:27:46

Mixed panelwent up to me and said hey sexy I'd be like hell no are you bi dude I don't [ __ ] know I don't know so you like what you like I like what I like but so if you so you like a person any person okay okay listen I just don't want to

01:27:59

Female guest (situationship)[ __ ] a fat [ __ ] you don't have to overcome okay I don't want to [ __ ] I actually wish she was asking me back to what she was asking me you were saying how I was basically saying that's contradicting right yeah earlier she was saying how how are you gonna date

01:28:13

Female guest (situationship)somebody how are you gonna marry somebody and then not not know if that they're good in bed right and she's over here saying well I know they're not good in bed because let me finish okay you want people to let me let you finish thank you

01:28:24

Female guest (situationship)my thing is you're over here saying that oh you're over here judging you're being biased this and this and that but yet you're over here saying I wouldn't [ __ ] somebody who's bigger than me so like that who's ugly this and this and that

01:28:35

Female guest (situationship)you have your own purse like perception as to who's ugly and who's Big right so it's like for you to be like straight up and say like Oh no you're ugly like you're fat but yeah you're over here

01:28:47

Nevsaying like oh no I'm not judging I'm not judging that you're oh you are being biased okay okay look I'm not an architect I don't want to [ __ ] a fat [ __ ] like can we just I don't want to [ __ ] a fat [ __ ]

01:29:00

Female guest (situationship)over complicate things I doubt anyone okay but just I'm just I'm okay she merely asked me a question which is why I was just trying to can I simplify

01:29:11

Rosie/Alia little bit good Jesus okay so I think the point is you shouldn't judge someone based off the act of sex right sex isn't the end-all be-all but biologically we picked the mate that is best for us

01:29:24

Rosie/Aliyou're not gonna want to mate with someone who says obese says short and you want your kids you want your Offspring to be stronger powerful tall in good shape right yes you will be the

01:29:37

Rosie/Aliway you are wording it is way better than what she has that's why I said I'm simplifying let her finish let her finish go ahead the whole objective like her whole objective is I'm going to have

01:29:48

Rosie/Alimy preferences but sex isn't what makes those preferences it's the preferences that lead to the sex right they lead to your picking a partner in general it's not just about sex so she's not being a hypocrite she's laying out her

01:30:00

Female guest (situationship)preferences that get you to the bed no but what I was saying was earlier she asked us something about it being about like how you feel towards a person and not about looks but now she's now she's talking about looks how you feel towards

01:30:11

Rosie/Alia fat person or a skinny person is definitely about looks but it is also how you you feel about those looks it doesn't change everything is we see something we all see the same thing but we all perceive it differently so it is how you feel about a thing

01:30:24

Rollo Tomassidoes that make sense that makes sense okay that makes no sense so really absolutely makes no sense no because I mean because we're human beings we're very good at pattern recognition when we see someone who is overweight when we see someone

01:30:36

Rollo Tomassiwho has like lost a limb when we see someone who is in some way deformed or disabled we look at them as as not necessarily a lesser human being because of their personal value but we do look

01:30:47

Rollo Tomassiat them that that person is uh is not going to be able to run away from a bear okay we look at that and we we have an instant instinctual understanding just

01:30:58

Rollo Tomassiby looking at that person whether or not they're going to be uh physically fit whether whether I want to have sex with that person whether I do not want to have sex with that person where that person is going to be somebody that I want in the trenches when I'm when I'm

01:31:09

Rollo Tomassifighting a war or when I I need somebody to balance my you know balance my accounts or something like that so there's absolutely a look that we see when we look at someone so when people say this [ __ ] about like oh you can't judge a book by its cover well the

01:31:22

Rollo Tomassireason for a book cover is to sort of let you know what's inside the book in the first place yeah no I agree agree with you completely I was just well and then the other part of that is is sex is the glue that keeps a relationship together so without that sex you got no

01:31:34

Nev[ __ ] relationship okay yeah well what I was gonna say I was saying that into the mic I don't want to judge anyone like based on their sexual performances and I wouldn't get

01:31:45

Nevto that point because I wouldn't go for a fat woman so I wouldn't know what her performance was like because I wouldn't bother with that

01:31:56

Mixed panelif that makes sense all right moving on uh so also okay one more question that question that guy said of tradition I come from a different background if

01:32:06

Mixed panelwe're talking about tradition I my parents were immigrants so I I'm not not immigrants but still um I come from a completely different background in my culture whoever is the

01:32:18

Mixed panelfastest person to pay you get to pay whoever you know we eat as a family we don't there's no such thing as a separate dish Everybody Eats off what everybody has exactly but in most

01:32:29

Mixed panelcultures and there's different ways and there's different thinking and there's different types everybody has an opinion everybody has a thing me personally the reason why I've been in a four-month relationship is because there's a

01:32:42

Mixed panelstandard there and there's a boundary that I put out and if you don't succumb to that you know boundary then sorry if you don't come to that you know boundary or meet it in any type of way then then

01:32:54

Mixed panelthere's no reason for me to move forward because I feel like a relationship is a partnership obviously because it I believe in 50 50 because of my cultural background and Intercultural background I'm Chinese I'm Chinese I'm sorry you

01:33:07

Mixed panelthink you think that the Chinese believe in 50 50. legalities my parents divorce and my dad left and so obviously there's split custody and there's child support and if you don't

01:33:20

Rollo Tomassipay for that child support do you think that I got that but do you think that the reason why your parents split up is because that egalitarian ideal didn't work out for the both of them of course and that's whatever it is is between

01:33:31

Mixed panelthem but as a kid you're causing a controller so is that cultural or is that just something between them but I also watched a cultural person come from a strict you know uh background my

01:33:42

Mixed panelgrandparents she she couldn't go outside she can she only had books everything like that working everything like nine to five everything and so my mom got sick of it and came here to America to live out the American dream and so

01:33:55

Mixed panelobviously from that point you had to start up from scratch and my mom scarred up from scratch by herself with nobody help with nobody's a helper until she met my dad she met my dad and my dad helped her and pushed her forward to a

01:34:06

Mixed panelcertain extent and so there agreement and disagreement and didn't fulfill each other they divorced what was the agreement their marriage you know when you when you say vows what would you say vows

01:34:18

Mixed panelokay what were the vowels I don't know I wasn't there so because I was too young but then there in their terms in their eyes they had agreed to a certain certain vow and a certain agreement and

01:34:29

Mixed panelif one of them just you know doesn't fulfill why would he says someone breached the contract yes so why would you stay in that relationship you have no reason to so you move on you progress

01:34:39

Mixed panelforward and as a man you know as a female and you constantly rely as a man and then the the father figure the male figure of the house will just disappears what do you have left in that household

01:34:50

Mixed panelin that Foundation what do you build off of a a male built Foundation nothing so you have to start out from scratch and you build that Foundation yourself okay and as if you just like stop karate

01:35:00

Mixed panelchopping I'm sorry sorry uh as a female you know from starting we know you're female that's been my mother starting from nothing to something she's from below minimum wage to above minimum wage

01:35:13

Mixed paneland by herself she did that all by herself so would she have been better off if she had a guy yes of course but you know in those time periods when she needed the guy the most she really so she needed a guy she needed a guy but

01:35:25

Mixed panelyou don't obviously my mom was So Into You know a relationship where it's you you put a certain agree and you put a certain degree and you make a house what are we talking what uh where was the scene like like you know like in a

01:35:38

Mixed panelmarriage you need two people are you still talking about 50 50. I want to bring Justice

01:35:48

Mixed panelyou don't you don't mind Brainerd you don't mind wash her you don't force it or agree anything she chooses to agree to go what is she into if you laid out now that five years a woman cannot look

01:36:00

Brian Atlasup to a man who is her equal but okay you said you're in favor of 50 50. Justin your thoughts on 50 50 Dynamic I don't believe in 50 50 Dynamic I believe a man should take care of a

01:36:12

Justin Wallerwoman in every way and I think that's what he gets to do and of course you will accept that because you'd be happy to be in this Frame because you look up to him you want to get behind him you want to be on that ride he's

01:36:23

Justin Wallergoing to take you on exactly yeah I also have a certain point yes but I'm gonna but I'll tell you a man's not a man is not going to sit there and listen to you tell you tell him your standards because

01:36:35

TTS/DonationsI'm gonna lay out a foundation of what I wanted guys hold on donated 200 Jerry will never really cares about this woe is me backstory you came from a broken

01:36:46

TTS/Donationshome and you dunked your dignity in the dumpster because you decided to not get professional help for your mental issues

01:36:54

Mixed panelyour responsible underscore exe mental issues are kind of shaky I have trust issues yes of course I do but then again

01:37:04

TTS/Donationsyou can't you can't reach hold on just a sec Davis donated 200 dollars I'm not gay but I go gay for [Laughter] Wars

01:37:19

TTS/Donationsever since I discovered Wallace I got off Viagra

01:37:28

Brian Atlasuh welcome to the whatever podcast I'm glad to be here thanks Mike I think uh that's crazy hey man we're gonna go to a Burger King afterwards Mike just for you

01:37:40

Brian Atlasbro can you tell me where the nearest Burger King is 24 hours he owns 300 of them no that was Mike Davis yeah I think that's Mike Davis wasn't it that was Mike Davis you're in Miami right yeah

01:37:51

Brian AtlasMike Davis do you own any Burger Kings in Miami what could he host you at the Burger King like sure bro I mean maybe after what he said maybe yeah it might be tough um

01:38:02

Brian Atlassorry we got two uh tts's that came through one right after the other you guys were kind of having an exchange Justin did you want to come back in or did you good no no problem at all I said what I had to say I I do believe that a man is

01:38:15

Justin Wallergoing to want to take charge and control the relationships and oftentimes I think that women particularly ones like you that are going to be a bit more headstrong they're going to want to hold on to their independence until they find a man that they find is worth Letting Go

01:38:27

Justin Wallerwhat's really hard for a woman nowadays is to find a man worth the [ __ ] enough for you to be able to let go and I think that'll be one of your biggest challenges moving forward particularly because how headstrong you are you know and and that's all I really have to say

01:38:38

Justin Wallerabout it if you find that right guy and he comes through just like you just everything that you think you want is is no offense not true when that man walks into your life and you're going to know you're going to be able to put a lot of walls down that you wouldn't previously

01:38:51

Justin Wallerbe able to put down because the man is worth you being able to do it and when you trust you can be inside his frame and you're safe inside of that you will let go no I absolutely agree so that's

01:39:02

Justin Wallerhave a hard time finding a guy because of how headstrong she is so she well she's critical of men too yeah in her particularly she's a little bit more voices something that gets in the way of me finding a guy because

01:39:16

AspenI'm sad because your head strong yeah because I'm well no no you're not you're a sweetheart you you're you're you and her are too different no I'm really headstrong I'm just kidding but I mean

01:39:26

AspenI'm I'm very independent I have goals for myself I I think that that comes off as intimidating to a lot of guys

01:39:36

Michael Sartainum why do you think that well that's my only assumption I might be wrong I think it's the pipeline more than anything can I give you guys all a piece of advice you write this down do

01:39:48

Michael Sartainwhatever with it you want um I would find a local chapter of the SPCA and start volunteering there I would find as many soup kitchens and food pantries as I could and start volunteering there I have found

01:40:00

Michael Sartainempathetic human beings are the ones that you probably want to be with people who show a level of kindness I throw charity events specifically for one of the reasons is you generally people who are narcissists and Psychopaths can't keep coming to Charities where they

01:40:12

Michael Sartaindon't get anything out of it Wounded Warriors anything for underprivileged children shout out to the Midnight Mission in Los Angeles shout out to operations blankets of love a domestic abuse charity anything like that the

01:40:23

Michael Sartainpeople that are associated with that I would not only would I try to find meet other people I want to group with but I would also invite a date on that for me who frequently it used to be my first date would be it would be somebody I was interested in we'd go volunteer at a

01:40:36

Michael Sartainsoup kitchen we go volunteer to food pantry because the reason why is like a lot of the times you guys are talking about like cruelty and a lack of empathy I I promise you that will work better than Tinder when it comes to personality if you guys started doing that but I

01:40:48

Michael Sartainhaven't heard any of you say that because your method by which you're meeting people tends to be solely online and I listen I know Rolo and I talk about this all the time Instagram is the number one dating app in the world and I agree that it's number one dating app in the world but it used to not be like

01:41:00

Michael Sartainthat I'm old and I remember when it wasn't like that before uh and so I would recommend you guys try some IRL stuff uh where you're actually volunteering and trying to serve other people and when you find somebody else in that method especially with your

01:41:13

Michael Sartainvalues as a Christian I think you're going to be shocked at how awesome it is and I don't mean just going to to church I mean finding someone else who's doing something for Wounded Warriors or for especially for animal rescue that is the the catch-all for everyone any everyone

01:41:26

Michael Sartainloves Animal Rescue uh so that's what I would recommend for all of you guys to if you're having trouble finding someone who's compassionate or finding someone who's trustworthy that's what I would do if I could just add to that Michael good chance you'll find a good guy at

01:41:39

Brian Atlasthose places you might also find someone who committed like a misdemeanor and they're doing community service hours just saying just just a caveat to Michael's thing and you might find a Sim too I

01:41:50

Justin Wallermean there's that risk right there's that too right yeah there's a bit of psychopathy that works for love there's such thing as dark love for sure all right we have a uh I do help people but

01:42:01

Mixed panelto a certain extent everybody deserves kindness to a certain extent there could you could be you could help all these people don't get me wrong and now our homeless shelter and some of

01:42:12

Mixed panelthem have some roughed up lives where they did where in the child you know uh they were a child and they messed up and now they can't progress as adult in life and that's why they're on the streets but then there's other people who have

01:42:24

Mixed panelcame from a great lifestyle great parents they just messed up with drugs and then with drugs they messed up and then now they're gonna watch that place and that's what I do I help them yeah I think I think I think we're confusing

01:42:36

Mixed panelhere for two different things I don't want you to date the people I'm just saying I do help them and I do help them to a certain extent I I do help the people who are drugged out you know they and that they do show that

01:42:48

Rollo Tomassiprogress that they want to change you know everyone needs a little bit of you know realization of their lifestyle what are you talking about he's not saying homeless guys he's saying like when you

01:43:01

Michael Sartaingo there there will be people there that you might want like my friend groups I specifically build my friend groups around charity I'm sorry were you saying are you somebody there

01:43:11

Brian Atlasto continue going on it's not that happy hour

01:43:25

Mixed panelthat people in this world deserve a certain amount of kindness to a certain extent when you see a homeless person out in the streets by the trailer by the freeways and everything asking for money what is your first thought what was it what do you what are you talking about

01:43:38

Brian Atlasthe empty platitudes here we're going to move on from that I don't know like where you're you're I'm saying like dude dating show dating show we can talk about the new one you're a great humanitarian I mean we can talk about

01:43:49

Nevthe nuances of humanitarian work but kind of unrelated you know okay we'll just add something honestly I love your advice but most people most people I know nowadays they don't want a good guy

01:44:01

Justin Wallerthey don't really want that they want to be I do I think I might be able to fix this with a sentence yeah throat and hold a base yeah that's who you're looking for okay so he's at Michael's event but

01:44:14

Nevhe could also be Michael and Michael's in the military I'm sorry was that sarcasm like were you actually no I mean for real like a lot of people partners that they shoes I don't know I'm talking about you you specifically uh that's what he was asking but what

01:44:26

Nevwhat was the question if you would be with somebody who would slit a throat and hold a baby you're [ __ ] right that's what you want as a woman that's what you want I want someone who isn't afraid of guns and [ __ ] like I want someone who can hold their own way that's the economy I don't want a

01:44:39

Justin Waller[ __ ] soy boy liberal cuck or whatever you want it you want a man you want a man that could yeah I want to move your kids and at the same time kill somebody they came in your house that's what you want yeah so no blue hair then hell no

01:44:50

Brian Atlaswhat the [ __ ] dude what are we talking about by the way I don't know but I'm just saying like all right let me get a couple of these super chats here uh let's see did we again

01:45:01

Kikiwait did we do this one no no we haven't done that yet wait did we do this wait yes super chats for you now uh landscaper 69 thing for the hundred Avery do you want to read this one to the panel what was it you dreamed of

01:45:13

Kikidoing with your life when you were little how close or far are you from that dream what changed your path just trying to understand this lost General let's keep the answer short on this one uh so what was it you dreamed of doing

01:45:24

Kikiwith your life when you were little let's just answer that one go ahead uh I wanted to be a singer I was doing that for a bit and then I lost my record deal and now I'm doing only fans so can you

01:45:35

Brian Atlassing pretty well do you have a talent let's hear it no no what's that song At Last by do you know that song all right

01:45:48

Brian Atlasum I want to work in media which I'm fulfilling you won the work in media yeah which you are fulfilling by doing what working in media are you talking about

01:45:59

Farha/Nikki/Kylieonly fans only fans is an aspect of media sure but I also have a tick tock I also write for websites and magazines okay but even if I was just doing only fans I would consider that fulfilling it sure but the question is what what was

01:46:11

Farha/Nikki/Kylieit you're you dreamed of doing with your life when you were little did I specifically dream of doing only fans when I was little no it didn't exist well it wasn't around yeah as opposed to sexually like I said I dreamed of doing media fair enough what about you

01:46:32

Female guest (situationship)um honestly when I was little I wanted to be a police officer I want to be a nurse um am I doing that right now no but I'm currently working so that I can get my car and continue going to school um

01:46:44

Rosie/Aliwhat change I have yeah I don't know go ahead always wanted to be in the medical field I'm almost in the medical field um nothing's strain me from that you're the ER nurse right a physical therapist

01:46:54

Rollo Tomassithat's what I'm looking at yeah um I just want to be happy and I want to make other people happy that was your childhood dream to be happy yeah that's awesome what else is there nothing's more specific than just be happy I don't know

01:47:07

NevI want to find what makes me happy I think it's my bigger thing I want to find what makes me happy and I want to make other people happy at the same time like I'm not sure what'll make me happy but I want to find it go ahead

01:47:20

Aspenyou will my dream as a child was to do something big with my life I think make a big difference and um later

01:47:30

Aspenon it was being a Trauma Nurse which I have found that and then I'm moving more towards humanitarians have you saved a life I saved many lives see there you go you've done something big

01:47:42

AspenER nursing or ER nurses I know it's sick in there you guys got this and nurses in general um but even the ER gets tiring you feel

01:47:54

Farha/Nikki/Kylielike you're not doing enough in there what about you I always wanted to be a model and actress but I kind of gave up on like acting stuff and now I just do modeling okay

01:48:06

Michael Sartainum I suppose this is asked to the rest of the panel so living the dream Michael uh it's funny man I I don't know I I can't even I always wanted to be a longhorn and I ended up doing that and then I it was never my dream to fly for

01:48:19

Michael Sartainthe Air Force but I ended up doing that I don't know man it's it's tough but I think maybe working in radio but I sort of ended up doing that with the podcast so something similar to that you're a pilot is that no no I was a civilian pilot I was a in the military I was a

01:48:30

Michael Sartainnavigator I was an instructor Navigator yeah in the in the military you were not a not a pilot no I was a Casey yeah navigator navigator okay it kind of worked in counterintelligence near the end of my career okay cool but then you said in your civilian life you're a

01:48:43

Justin Wallerpilot yeah I flew a uh assessment 172 in a piper Warrior awesome yeah super cool uh Justin yeah man when I was a kid I was gonna always said I was gonna be a businessman it was very vague I don't think I knew

01:48:53

Rollo Tomassiwhat I meant um but it couldn't have worked out better man Life's A Dream and uh when I was a kid let's see when I was 10 I wanted to be Ace Freely that's what I wanted to be I want to be in kiss

01:49:05

Rollo Tomassithat's what I wanted to be as simple as that no I mean I I always wanted to uh be a a touring musician which I got to do for quite some time when I was in the late 80s and early 90s and I still play

01:49:18

Rollo Tomassiin a band right now but uh it's so much more than that it's like I'm a creative individual I don't think a lot of people really get that from me because like when I'm when I'm doing what I do here right now they think I'm like super analytical but I actually am very much

01:49:30

Rollo Tomassiyou can tell from my thumbnails I'm very much an artist too so I've always been an artist and I do what I do exactly what I wanted to do very talented graphic designer and I

01:49:41

Brian Atlassuppose I'll answer the question uh at one point I wanted to be a magician and then that didn't work out and then I wanted to be a professional Surfer that also did not work out landscaper 69

01:49:52

Kikithing for the donation Avery go ahead Brian it depends on if you go terminal low Tower or enroute enroute radar and Rook it's paid way more but is significantly harder Aspen have you ever

01:50:05

Kikilistened to the Bible in a year podcast with father Mike if you haven't you should it's fantastic Aspen

01:50:16

Brian Atlasreally appreciate it man um is that a gecko face palming hello um is that like the Geico I don't know thank you man appreciate it American virus is freedom think for the 100 uh

01:50:28

KikiAvery go ahead as a traditional guy I look at women that sleep with with a lot of men as someone that is willing to have a kid with those men a man that is willing to sleep with a lot of women are willing to emotionally damage ladies they don't want to stay with neither is

01:50:40

Michael Sartainhealthy it's so true Justin thoughts on this Michael Rollo any thoughts I think you don't necessarily want to have kids with

01:50:52

Michael Sartaineveryone you have sex with so I don't know if that's something I do think it's leverage to judge people but I mean in some cases you do here's the thing subconsciously though you do and it's more so with women than men where women will like again the oxytocin release

01:51:05

Michael Sartainthat happens after a woman has sex with a man is more powerful in women than it has been so I could see that that argument subconsciously but I think cognitively I'm not sure if that's no it's just the argument for licking the ice cream that's all that's there there's the ice cream store and some

01:51:18

Rollo Tomassiguys get to go into the ice cream store earlier earlier or like at all go in there and then what they do is they go and lick every flavor of ice cream so when everybody else goes in there they realize that oh hey this ice cream's

01:51:29

Rollo Tomassibeen lit that's a metaphor I know it's dangerous to use these days but it's a metaphor for the fact that guys there's this belief that a certain percentage of guys are going and essentially sleeping

01:51:42

Rollo Tomassiwith all the women and then damaging those women and then those women when they find the real guy when they find when they finally get to be 28 29 30 years old and they're trying to do the

01:51:51

Rollo Tomassiright thing then they're damaged goods and all because some Sinister group of very elite men a small percentage of them have ruined those women because they had had sex with them or the

01:52:04

Rollo Tomassiproblem with your estimate there is you also have to remember that women choose to have sex with those guys in the first place so you got to look at from both sides I know you got something to say

01:52:15

Justin Wallerno I agree with you I don't think he's wrong I think that you know there's a certain level of man that can go through an awful Widow a bunch of women um I'm just saying I believe that and um life isn't fair man so you need to

01:52:28

Justin Wallercompete very very hard understand where you fall in the rank of things and put yourself in a position to be the highest level of man that she could be with because until you do that then there's not really a conversation I'll just keep rolling through them and all the other

01:52:40

Justin Wallerguys like me will so that's your problem to handle my friend that's why you should work so hard that's why everybody watching this [ __ ] should work so [ __ ] hard be the best man you can possibly be because if you love your wife even if it's your future wife you

01:52:53

Justin Wallerare going to be faced with the scenario and that's the only way that you're going to win my friend and so Justin just a question when you say faced with that scenario what do you mean so you every man is going to compete after he's

01:53:04

Justin Wallermarried regardless like hypergly is a real thing respectfully by the way um uh it is very very real and it is something that you're constantly going to be doing and your life is competing so performance you have a burden of

01:53:17

Justin Wallerperformance men do have a burden of performance and it's very important that you realize that and accept that ugly truth of the world you can get mad at women and blame it on women but the truth of the matter is unless you're doing the work to maximize every part of you in every way then you should look at

01:53:29

Justin Wallerno one but yourself so go find a mirror my friend instead of typing on this channel and talking [ __ ] about how women are hypergamous we already know that so all you can do is build yourself up to the man that she would never leave yeah his his argument that it's unhealthy for

01:53:42

Michael Sartainmen to run through a bunch of women is not going to stop men especially High status men from doing exactly that 100 he's just complaining yeah and the fact that you complain about it isn't going to change it either like again on one hand we have you know 17 18 years of

01:53:54

Michael SartainFacebook and on the other hand we have 300 000 years of homo sapien Evolution the the evolution means more and women will be hypergamous and men will compete with other men over women that is not something that happened because of the United States of America or because of

01:54:07

Michael Sartaintick tock that is something that has been the same since we were descended from Australopithecus that is always the way hominids have been all right we have Davon Jackson here with him for the 200 Super Chat yo pause

01:54:19

Brian Atlasplease I believe this is in response to Mike Davis's uh comments towards Justin uh uh that were perhaps romantic in nature

01:54:31

Michael Sartainum Mike Davis seems to take a liking to sometimes the men on the panel he said he he isn't gay but if he was gay that's what he said he did qualify that fair fair oh [ __ ] it's a really tricky

01:54:44

TTS/Donationsposition because he's being so nice to me thank you man on behalf of the military homies our military guys red flags in the dating scene why or why not yeah we

01:54:55

Kikican go around the table on this uh Avery is it a red flag why or why not I don't think so um I don't know I've actually never dated or matched with a guy in the

01:55:09

Michael Sartainmilitary but no no it wouldn't be I'm kind of confused why would it be like what's the presentation I suppose I mean PCS tdys like we're your cause to travel on like

01:55:20

Michael Sartaindeployments and stuff like but it's it's honestly the military men get taken advantage of more than than the red flags yeah it's quite the opposite like military men get cheetah there was a uh show called Army Wives I believe on CBS that just Illustrated this entire point

01:55:33

Michael Sartainit's women especially after World War II guys would be deployed for two years they'd come back and it was like a 75 divorce rate after that so it's it's quite the opposite it's it's men who get married and then deploy that whole

01:55:44

Brian Atlassituation tends to be a red flag what's it called to depends upon a mess is that have you heard that term Mike dependapotamus it depends upon himself well done is that yeah there's there's women who just who just scour around

01:55:57

Michael SartainFort Hood you know is looking for I got a follow-up question but they just got around 400 looking for any like second Lieutenant they can get their hands on or any you know it's just it's so I think it's quite the opposite as far as being a red flag most military guys I

01:56:09

Mixed panelknow don't have the ability to cheat we can do a 15 month deployment and I back you don't have the ability to cheat so yeah yeah is that a red flag to you it's because I just don't like that

01:56:21

Mixed panelfeeling of just waiting for somebody I'm waiting for you I I have loyalty I have trust I have this I have communication I have that as a person and I invest all

01:56:33

Mixed panelthis with a person that's completely far away and now this person has a lot of other things in his you know view at this point he's exposed to new things he has he doesn't have time for that person that's waiting at home so now she's

01:56:46

Female guest (situationship)stuck at at home waiting so no long distance relationships Scott uh do personal experience other people's point of views so you've dated a guy in the military I did a guy

01:56:58

Female guest (situationship)in a military that was my seven month situation situationship um but like for example you're not allowed to do this but I would also sleep in his in his barracks

01:57:10

Female guest (situationship)and I would hear a lot of the rumors that was happening for example um he has this friend who is has a fiance he has another friend that is married and they would have girls over at their rooms all the times they have

01:57:23

Female guest (situationship)these things called uh Barrack bunnies or something like that

01:57:30

Michael SartainI think the other thing we have to do we have to differentiate is I think you're talking about enlisted infantry and there's a big difference between that or just enlisted in general I'm talking about enlisted and I'm talking about other people with as well that were

01:57:41

Female guest (situationship)outside for example like I obviously I have girlfriends and then his his friends would be like hey like set me up with your girlfriends and I'd be like you guys already have somebody though then there I'd be like okay but they wouldn't have to know because I don't know those I don't know the girls

01:57:54

Rosie/Alipersonally so I'm trying to get on the down low exactly so I don't trust any of those guys so it's a trust thing it's a trust thing I don't think you can judge Everybody by the actions of a few but I'll speak up a

01:58:06

Rosie/Alilittle bit I don't think you can judge people by the actions of a few like that like it's not a trusting I think if a man is willing to put his life on the line to learn how to protect our country and to protect me I think that that's not a red flag

01:58:19

Nevum hey maybe I'm biased because um my uncle is a marine was a marine but I have nothing but respect once Marine always he's still he's still a marine he's still a marine

01:58:29

Nevbut respect for members of the military um honestly it wouldn't be a red flag at all because one that shows that the guy is very willing to die for his country which means that he

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